/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/30/#upstart.txt

iamthelostboyKeybuk: thanks for the help earlier.. the process the upstart job is running is just a standard application.. when the job is started by me logged in as root by emitting the same event which normally starts it, the job stays running with the process id,, if the job is started during normal system startup, the process stays running, though the job goes into the waiting state05:58
iamthelostboyi cant quite understand why there is a difference between me manually starting it and been automatically started during system startup05:58
Keybukachivetta: removing "respawn" from the job will prevent Upstart from respawning it09:32
Keybukbut that will mean it just fails once, obviously09:32
Keybukprobably better to find out why it fails with an I/O error09:32
Keybukcould be that you're starting it too early?09:33
Keybukiamthelostboy: not sure on that one without some debugging traces09:33
Keybukiamthelostboy: run "initctl log-priority debug" then capture the messages when you start by hand09:33
Keybukfor the boot case, add "--debug" to your kernel command line and watch the console messages09:33
* Keybuk came up with the release name for 0.6.0 at a very strange hour last night ;)10:18
johnflux_Hey everyone12:55
Keybukhey12:58
johnflux_Keybuk, is there a gui for starting/stopping services?13:02
johnflux_a KDE gui would be nice13:03
johnflux_Keybuk, I'm wondering how to do the integration of kde's System Activity (task manager)13:03
Keybukthere is no gui13:04
Keybukhowever the D-Bus interface should make writing one trivial13:04
KeybukI started documenting it here http://upstart.ubuntu.com/wiki/DBusInterface13:07
Keybukobviously this is largely incomplete so far, and doesn't include the new method we discussed13:08
johnflux_Keybuk, and presumably the d-bus interface isn't public just yet13:08
johnflux_Keybuk, thanks for documenting it13:08
Keybukhow do you mean by public?13:09
johnflux_Keybuk, sorry I mean that non-root users can't use the dbus interface yet13:12
johnflux_Keybuk, the second bug that I filed13:12
johnflux_Keybuk, "no well-known name is required."   what does this mean?13:14
johnflux_what's a well-known name?13:14
Keybukuse the dbus/Upstart.conf file from trunk13:20
Keybukhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~scott/upstart/trunk/revision/1126#dbus/Upstart.conf13:20
Keybukif you don't know what a "well known name" is, I suggest starting from a D-Bus tutorial13:21
Keybukit's a fairly fundamental concept13:21
johnflux_Keybuk, would you mind if I added a link from "well known name" to the appropriate dbus tutorial paragraph then?13:23
johnflux_I can't be the only one who vaguelly knows what dbus is, but don't know what "well known name" means13:23
Keybuksure13:27

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