[00:00] <charlie-tca> r=read, w=write, x=executable
[00:00] <charlie-tca> the dash means the permission is denied
[00:00] <charlie-tca> yup
[00:01] <charlie-tca> mib486: lose you yet
[00:01] <charlie-tca> ?
[00:02] <Shmeck> I didn't get the /home part
[00:02] <Shmeck> who is denied? to what?
[00:02] <charlie-tca> change the permissions for /home only
[00:02] <charlie-tca> any - when reading permissions means that item is not set
[00:03] <charlie-tca> thus rwxr-xr-x means allow the user to read, write, execute
[00:03] <charlie-tca> allow the group to read and execute only, same for other
[00:03] <charlie-tca> group and other can not write to the directory
[00:04] <charlie-tca> specifying /home means you won't mod all the directories and files in this directory, but only /home
[00:05] <Shmeck> oh
[00:05] <Shmeck> lovely, and thanks for that complete walkthrough there :)
[00:05] <charlie-tca> no problem
[00:06] <charlie-tca> it just seems easy to me. but I do use command --help alot
[00:07] <Shmeck> i better get used to it ;)
[00:07] <charlie-tca> terminal is your friend
[00:08] <goldrake> and man is your teacher
[00:08] <charlie-tca> whether you use Ctrl+Alt+f2 or just use a terminal, command --help
[00:08] <charlie-tca> is that where man fits in!
[00:09] <charlie-tca> I just thought it was there to confuse me more than normal
[00:09] <Shmeck> I think I love this channel :D
[00:09] <charlie-tca> I guess we do have to remember 'man command' also helps sometimes
[00:11] <charlie-tca> mib486: any luck this time?
[00:11] <Shmeck> ok, alternate cd is downloaded, off to install
[00:11] <Shmeck> catch you guys later
[00:12] <mib486> sorry, im having some girls issues, brb
[00:20] <mib486> charlie-tca: alright im back
[00:20] <mib486> im sorry
[00:20] <mib486> where were we?
[00:21] <charlie-tca> okay
[00:21] <charlie-tca> we were gonna change the permissions for home itself
[00:21] <charlie-tca> so, cd /
[00:21] <charlie-tca> sudo chmod u+rwx /home
[00:22] <mib486> yes
[00:22] <charlie-tca> sudo chmod g+rx /home
[00:22] <charlie-tca> sudo chmod o+rx /home
[00:23] <mib486> u might want to know that "/" root is mounted on "/" and "/home" is on another partition
[00:23] <charlie-tca> sudo chmod g-w /home
[00:23] <charlie-tca> does not matter.
[00:23] <charlie-tca> sudo chmod o-w /home
[00:23] <mib486> done with the "others" as well
[00:23] <charlie-tca> restart again
[00:23] <charlie-tca> sudo shutdown -r now
[00:24] <mib486> done
[00:24] <charlie-tca> Can't think of anything else. I sure this one works
[00:24] <mib486> listen though, i had an idea
[00:24] <charlie-tca> go
[00:25] <mib486> my CMOS battery doesnt work and so at every boot i have to press f1 to go on
[00:25] <mib486> this was not a prob till i changed the date and time on xubuntu's date and time as root, before it had 1st january 2000
[00:25] <mib486> could this screw things up?
[00:26] <mib486> same error anyway...
[00:26] <charlie-tca> yes
[00:26] <mib486> oh IM SORRY
[00:26] <mib486> should have mentioned it before :D
[00:26] <mib486> didnt think it was important
[00:26] <mib486> SORRY
[00:27] <charlie-tca> I think it could be the date screwing things up
[00:27] <mib486> but now when i get to the log-in screen it has the old date
[00:27] <charlie-tca> I am trying to remember it the effect that had when I left the date wrong
[00:28] <charlie-tca> Linux should be picking the date up from bios. If you don't reset the date at boot time, it will be wrong.
[00:28] <charlie-tca> The files are dated wrong. That might be the issue here, but I don't know for sure.
[00:29] <mib486> but even when i wrote this before drwx------ 2 root root 16384 date and time lost+found it was saying january 2000
[00:29] <mib486> well, it all happens after i changed it so i guess thatz what it is
[00:29] <charlie-tca> The permissions were wrong, that is always a problem. directories should be rwxr-xr-x or you can't always execute the files in them
[00:30] <mib486> so according to what ur saying i only have to get into the bios and modify date and time up to today and thatz it?
[00:30] <charlie-tca> but I am out of ideas now. If now one else can do anything, it is time to reinstall, I am afraid.
[00:30] <charlie-tca> Try it
[00:30] <mib486> alright
[00:30] <mib486> no big deal
[00:30] <mib486> its a fresh install so no files are gonna get lost
[00:30] <charlie-tca> I gotta go now. good luck
[00:30] <mib486> thanks man
[00:31] <mib486> i appreciate it
[00:31] <mib486> bye
[04:08] <jbrew> I installed Ubuntu on the 2nd hd on my desktop.  It will not boot.  I get an "unable to execute '/sbin/getty' fot ttyx no such file or directory" message then the screen goes blank
[04:08] <jbrew> sorry xubuntu
[04:26] <jbrew> tty main processes all also terminated with status 225.  Any suggestions
[04:44] <jadez03> Hello, recent switch to xubuntu here. Loving xfce
[05:51] <cjones> where does synaptic install phpbb?
[05:54] <jadez03> ~/.phpbb i would guess
[05:55] <duckwars> hello channel
[05:55]  * jadez03 waves
[05:55] <duckwars> I'm ubernoob
[05:56] <duckwars> I am literally installing 9.04 on my dad's P2 right now
[05:56] <duckwars> and interested in turning it into a VNC server
[05:59] <jadez03> 9.04 is what i'm running
[05:59] <jadez03> loving it
[06:00] <jadez03> you can VNC it quite easily
[06:03] <cjones> can anybody go to www.katriders.com and tell me if they get a database error?
[06:03] <jadez03> vB loads fine for me
[06:05] <jadez03> althought you have some stuff off
[06:05] <jadez03> The requested URL /sendmessage.php was not found on this server.
[06:05] <cjones> that was wierd thanks
[06:06] <jadez03> Yep
[06:06] <jadez03> I amm incredibly bored
[06:09] <jadez03> Hmm. I am relatively new to xfce, anyone know where I can figure out the special laptop key configuration? (My media play / pause / next / volume keys on my laptop)
[06:12] <duckwars> sorry i was gone
[06:12] <duckwars> my real end goal is to make a server I can mount like a harddrive on my desktop in OS X
[06:13] <duckwars> and an apple "genius" said it needs to be a VNC server
[06:13] <duckwars> but I've run into geniuses that weren't so smart
[06:13] <duckwars> right now I have the drive behind an apple airport extreme which has a usb port which actually quite easily shares the drive
[06:15] <duckwars> okay... trying to install xubuntu and I got the error "segmentation fault"
[06:15] <duckwars> *Preparing restricted drivers...
[06:15] <duckwars> *Starting kernel event manager...
[06:15] <duckwars> *Loading hardware drivers...
[06:16] <duckwars> udevd-event[2408]: 'path_id /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3/mouse1 abnormal exit
[06:16] <duckwars> segmentation fault
[06:16] <duckwars> that's it exactly... any ideas?
[06:24] <travissein> my applications menu went missing from the xfce4-panel... how do I resolve this???
[06:56] <jadez03> travissein,
[06:56] <jadez03> right click on your panel
[06:56] <jadez03> select 'add to panel'
[06:56] <travissein> tried it
[06:56] <travissein> it's not there
[06:57] <travissein> XFCE Menu
[06:57] <travissein> it's really weird
[06:57] <jadez03> scroll all the way to the bottom and select XFC....what
[06:57] <jadez03> hmmm
[06:57] <travissein> i uninstalled Xubuntu-Desktop and XFCE4, now I can't reinstall it; keeps saying build error
[06:57] <travissein> So now I'm just using gnome :/
[06:57] <jadez03> are you building your own?
[06:58] <travissein> i'm just doing sudu apt-get xubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <jadez03> did you do a sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop to remove it?
[06:58] <travissein> The following packages have unmet dependencies: ... E: Broken packages"
[06:58] <travissein> yes
[06:58] <jadez03> aye
[06:58] <jadez03> that's why
[06:58] <jadez03> let me link you to something
[06:58] <jadez03> xubuntu-desktop is a dummy package
[06:58] <travissein> what does that mean?
[06:59] <jadez03> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[07:00] <jadez03> "If you decide you want to remove Xfce, it's not enough to go to Synaptic Package Manager and remove the xubuntu-desktop package, as that is just an empty package that points to all the software packages that make up a default Xubuntu installation. Removing the pointer package won't remove all the packages it points to. "
[07:01] <travissein> holy cow that's a big command
[07:01] <jadez03> yeah, it's pretty intense
[07:01] <travissein> thank you man :)
[07:01] <travissein> really appreciate it; let me see how this goes
[07:01] <jadez03> no problem, i just learned about this stuff
[07:01] <jadez03> i hope it works for you
[07:01] <travissein> gracias :P
[07:01] <jadez03> make sure and read the command before you execute
[07:02] <jadez03> i don't want to help you break your install :(
[07:02] <travissein> ill let you know how it works; just currently installing wah!cade :P
[07:02] <jadez03> :P
[07:02] <travissein> lol no worries if it does break
[07:02] <travissein> it's a fresh install
[07:03] <jadez03> good good
[07:03] <jadez03> notice at the end of the remove xubuntu command, there's the && denominator, and then install ubuntu-desktop
[07:04] <jadez03> will likely fix your applications issue, since you probably deleted the app and the applet :P
[07:09] <travissein> we'll see :P
[07:09] <travissein> it's chugging along now
[07:10] <travissein> had some dependencies that the command wanted to remove that werent installed
[07:10] <travissein> like xfce-lib-menu or something
[07:10] <travissein> which was probably my missing file
[07:30] <travissein> no good :( still no fcking menu lol
[07:30] <travissein> wait for it.... i think i see xfce menu now XD
[07:30] <travissein> YAY
[07:45] <duckwars> My Pentium II computer has been trying to install xubuntu 8 for like an hour
[08:02] <Guest16404> Anyone active for support with PS3?
[08:36] <nikolam> hi.
[08:36] <nikolam> I have a problem adding user to a system
[08:36] <nikolam> I am using 8.04LTS 64bit
[08:36] <nikolam> I just deleted user from Users and Groups and deleted its home dir
[08:36] <nikolam> deluser command is saying that user does not exist anymore.
[08:37] <nikolam> Yet, Users and groups applet refuses to make new user with the same user name as before, stating, user with that name already exist
[08:38] <nikolam> So I have 2 system tools saying opposite things (?) and I can Not add user now (!(
[08:43] <nikolam> Solved by removing user group that user belongs to, together with removing user.
[08:43] <nikolam> Answered by jpds on #ubuntu
[08:43] <nikolam> Alsop stated that that behaviour is somewhat changed in later versions
[08:50] <jadez03> yawn
[08:52] <nikolam> hi
[08:52] <jadez03> how goes it tonight
[09:23] <SiDi> nikolam: thanks for the info
[09:28]  * jadez03 is ready to reseat his CPU's heatsink....out of boredome
[09:29] <jadez03> -e...
[10:37] <nunu> hi, can anyone tell me why my resolution always resets itself to 1600x1200 after a reboot AND session save? where to I change those things in xubuntu? is there a GUI way? or do I need to change the xorg.conf?
[11:20] <joodoo> Howdy.  Can anyone point me to a tutorial or info on how to encrypt my home directory post install?
[11:23] <Drunkard> sure
[11:23] <Drunkard> http://pupeno.com/blog/encrypted-home-in-ubuntu2
[11:23] <Drunkard> read it
[11:23] <joodoo> Cheers!
[11:23] <Drunkard> but
[11:24] <Drunkard> i've have to reinstall your existing if u want to use encrypted partition
[11:24] <Drunkard> and ... just curious, for what ?
[11:28] <joodoo> Just data security for personal/financial info.
[11:49] <Drunkard> i've tested vostro 1500 ( dell ) with arch-linux, pc-bsd, xubunt and freebsd
[11:49] <Drunkard> unfortunatlly for me, xubuntu shows the maximum perfomance
[11:51] <Drunkard> with graff use of course
[11:52] <SiDi> why unfortunately ?
[11:53] <Drunkard> for many years i used only the bsd family
[11:53] <Drunkard> and now, i just .. lost in world of modern linux )
[11:53] <Drunkard> all so strange
[11:54] <TheSheep> performance isw overrated
[11:56] <Drunkard> sorry for my english, but what exactly meaning of word <overrated> you are using
[11:56] <Drunkard> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=overrated
[11:58] <Drunkard> from the other side, the time i spen to get full working bsd with grafic / office support / audio-video / flash / pdf / icq / etc .. - is about 2 days of unstopable bulding from ports
[11:58] <Drunkard> in xubuntu i did it for 30 minutes
[12:27] <Shmeck> afternoon guys
[12:28] <Shmeck> anyone here?
[12:34] <SiDi> No
[12:34] <SiDi> we're sleeping
[12:49] <lean2501> hi! how can i remove the boot loading xubuntu screen? i want only it to display the console output
[12:50] <SiDi> lean2501: remove usplash from your system
[12:50] <lean2501> ah thanks!
[12:59] <Drunkard> ' declare
[12:59] <Drunkard> Dim WshShell, objEnv, strComputerName, str2Search4, oShell
[12:59] <Drunkard> ' set
[12:59] <Drunkard> Set oShell = WScript.CreateObject("WSCript.shell")
[12:59] <Drunkard> Set WshShell = CreateObject("Wscript.Shell")
[12:59] <Drunkard> Set objEnv = WshShell.Environment("PROCESS")
[12:59] <Drunkard> strComputerName = objEnv("COMPUTERNAME")
[12:59] <Drunkard> str2Search4 = "srt"
[12:59] <Drunkard> ' program
[12:59] <Drunkard> If strComputerName <> "" Then
[12:59] <Drunkard>    If InStr(CStr(Trim(LCase(strComputerName))), str2Search4) = 0 Then
[12:59] <Drunkard>       'do something
[12:59] <Drunkard> 	oShell.run "notepad.exe"
[12:59] <Drunkard>    Else
[12:59] <Drunkard>       'do something different
[12:59] <Drunkard> 	oShell.run "cmd.exe"
[12:59] <Drunkard>    End If
[12:59] <Drunkard> End If
[12:59] <Drunkard> ' destroy
[12:59] <Drunkard> Set objEnv = Nothing
[12:59] <Drunkard> Set WshShell = Nothing
[12:59] <Drunkard> Set oShell = Nothing
[12:59] <Drunkard> f**me ... sry guys
[12:59] <Drunkard> wrong window
[13:01] <Slonkie> Lol
[13:01] <ablomen> how dare you, its windows code too! ;)
[13:01] <SiDi> what the hell is that language ?
[13:02] <Drunkard> it's VBscript
[13:02] <SiDi> i see..
[13:02] <SiDi> its dirty :D
[13:02] <Drunkard> )
[13:03] <Drunkard> dealing with problems of everest corp. edition
[13:04] <Drunkard> i've created logon script, but it also works when users are using remote desktops, so i need to check the computer name first
[13:08] <SiDi> That sounds so easy to break.
[13:10] <ablomen> SiDi, to be fair, thats just keeping true to the os's philosophy ;)
[13:11] <Drunkard> what do you mean SiDi ?
[13:12] <Drunkard> it's second plan, the first one is the oscinventory + glpi on bsd
[13:12] <Drunkard> much easier for me, but the policy of the company is to use windows
[13:12] <Drunkard> ;-(
[13:13] <Drunkard> as golden middle i think it will be everest dealing with mysql database on bsd
[13:19] <SiDi> Drunkard: if you need the computerName thingy to authenticate
[13:19] <SiDi> then you just need to know the one of the remote machine and change yours
[13:19] <SiDi> that sounds feasible
[13:20] <Drunkard> hmm .. nope, it's just logon script for statistics ( GP )
[13:46] <Shmeck> i'm trying to install my wireless USB adapter, but i'm clueless
[13:47] <Shmeck> it's a d-link dwl-g122
[13:48] <Shmeck> it appears on lsusb
[13:49] <Shmeck> oh, when installing xubuntu it failed to 'configure ... to work with DHCP'
[13:49] <Shmeck> how do i fix this?
[13:52] <SiDi> Shmeck: this card has worked out of the box since years ..
[13:52] <johnrdavisjr> What would be the best ubuntu spin to use for audio recording?
[13:53] <Shmeck> well, it doesn't probably because of the failed configuration stage when unstalling xubuntu
[13:53] <SiDi> Shmeck: the drivers are either in rt2400-source, rt2500-source  or rt2570-source packages
[13:54] <SiDi> johnrdavisjr: Ubuntu studio, or if you know which app you want and if it doesnt work with PulseAudio, Xubuntu
[13:54] <ablomen> johnrdavisjr, well ubuntu studio has tons of stuff installed by default, but you can also add those to [x|k|?]ubuntu offcourse
[13:54] <Shmeck> SiDi: and having xubuntu 9.04 means I should have them already?
[13:54] <ablomen> oh
[13:54] <SiDi> Shmeck: if you had your dongle plugged during the install i suppose it should be installed yes
[13:55] <Shmeck> oh, it wasn't
[13:55] <SiDi> Shmeck: otherwise the "new hardware" tray icon should be around (im not sure if it works for wifi dongles though)
[13:55] <SiDi> lsusb | grep g122 please Shmeck
[13:56] <Shmeck> it appears there
[13:56] <johnrdavisjr> SiDi & ablomen: I have tried the ubuntu, kubuntu, and ubuntustudio versions and have found that making it record skype conversations required
[13:56] <johnrdavisjr> does anyone have any idea how to record skype conversations?
[13:57] <SiDi> Shmeck: i need to know which revision it is, please show me the line about it
[13:57] <Shmeck> oh, sorry, be right back, (second computer)
[13:57] <SiDi> johnrdavisjr: ask skype to develop such a feature. Their app is proprietary, hard to do it on their sight
[13:58] <SiDi> johnrdavisjr: a workaround would be to record the sound of your whole system (or maybe pulseaudio has tools for recording an app's audio output)
[13:58] <SiDi> you should ask in #ubuntustudio or in #pulseaudio
[13:58] <johnrdavisjr> thanks SiDi
[13:58] <ablomen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119575 << first hit on google (http://www.google.com/search?q=record+skype+ubuntu)
[14:00] <Shmeck> SiDi: is RT73 the number you are looking for?
[14:00] <Shmeck> (btw it sais C1 on the stick itself)
[14:00] <johnrdavisjr> ablomen: I have attempted to do that; however it does not work with my setup
[14:01] <ablomen> ah ok
[14:01] <SiDi> Shmeck: okey i know which dongle it is
[14:01] <SiDi> Shmeck: the problem is knowing which of the three rt2x00 drivers is the best *.*
[14:01] <ablomen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToRecordSkypeCalls << there is also a ubuntu wiki page btw
[14:01] <SiDi> Shmeck: try to install rt2570-source
[14:02] <johnrdavisjr> ablomen: I have googled this till my fingers bleed and nothing works
[14:02] <Shmeck> how can i get a linux package in windows?
[14:03] <Shmeck> (linux pc is the offline one we are discussing)
[14:03] <ablomen> Shmeck, http://ns2.canonical.com/
[14:03] <ablomen> Shmeck, here you can search trough the official repositories and download the packages
[14:04] <Shmeck> great, thanks :)
[14:07] <Shmeck> umm.. which of the downloads is the right one?
[14:07] <Shmeck> .gz?
[14:07] <SiDi> .deb
[14:08] <Shmeck> oh, got it
[14:08] <SiDi> http://ns2.canonical.com/jaunty/all/rt2570-source/download
[14:09] <Shmeck> putting on disk-on-key, loading to linux pc, and..?
[14:11] <SiDi> and sudo dpkg -i packagename
[14:11] <SiDi> or double click on it, as you prefer :d
[14:13] <Shmeck> dependency is not satisfyable? :|
[14:15] <SiDi> download the missing packages then
[14:17] <Shmeck> dependency is not satisfiable: debhelper
[14:17] <Shmeck> does that mean i should get debhelper?
[14:18] <SiDi> You need rutilt and wireless-tools
[14:18] <SiDi> and debhelper
[14:18] <SiDi> rt2570-source needs them
[14:19] <SiDi> http://ns2.canonical.com/jaunty/wireless-tools
[14:19] <SiDi> http://ns2.canonical.com/jaunty/rutilt
[14:19] <SiDi> i'm checking the deps for debhelper
[14:21] <SiDi> http://ns2.canonical.com/jaunty/all/debhelper/download
[14:21] <Shmeck> yeah, this one asks for dpkg
[14:21] <SiDi> dpkg-dev ?
[14:22] <SiDi> you may need po-debconf too
[14:22] <Shmeck> it seems I may need a lot more =
[14:22] <Shmeck> =\
[14:23] <Shmeck> it would have been alot easier if I had internet connection :P
[14:23] <SiDi> Shmeck: indeed :p
[14:24] <Shmeck> dpkg_dev need patch
[14:25] <Shmeck> that is just sad
[14:30] <Shmeck> ok, patch and dpkg installed
[14:30] <Shmeck> now it asks for html2text
[14:31] <Shmeck> =\
[14:39] <Shmeck> god this thing is terrible
[14:39] <Shmeck> it needs gettext
[15:02] <Shmeck> awesome!!
[15:02] <Shmeck> got the wireless working
[15:02] <Shmeck> thank you sooo much SiDi
[15:03] <Shmeck> i installed this guy : http://ns2.canonical.com/jaunty/rutilt
[15:03] <SiDi> you're welcome :D
[15:03] <Shmeck> and now it works :)
[15:04] <SiDi> btw Shmeck
[15:04] <Shmeck> ooh, off to logon from the linux
[15:04] <SiDi> i'm now wondering... the packages are probably on the CD :|
[15:04] <Shmeck> yes?
[15:04] <SiDi> thats to be checked, but maybe we could have done it faster
[15:04] <Shmeck> it doesn't matter now that I can use apt-get install :)
[15:05] <Shmeck> be right back
[15:09] <shmeck_> :)
[15:10] <shmeck_> SiDi: now writing from xubuntu
[15:10] <SiDi> shmeck_: :)
[15:11] <Shmeck> ok, time to see what this machine can do
[15:13] <Shmeck> hehe, it's 5pm, I didn't eat anything today :|
[15:13] <Shmeck> but at least I got xubuntu to work with the wireless stick :D
[15:15] <SiDi> you should eat first
[15:15] <SiDi> we dont have any app that cooks instead of you
[15:15] <SiDi> (for the moment !)
[15:19] <Shmeck> that is left for linux over ARM
[15:19] <Shmeck> and linux over the stove
[15:19] <SiDi> cooking over ip !
[15:19] <SiDi> there is a protocol for controlling coffee pots over ip already
[15:20] <Shmeck> ooh, 117 updates available :P
[15:20] <Shmeck> I only have 2 gigs left on this pc :|
[15:22] <SiDi> size of the HDD ?
[15:28] <Shmeck> hehe 10 gigs
[15:28] <Shmeck> it's an ancient pc i brought back from the dead
[15:28] <Shmeck> at first it refused booting for an unknown reason, after many hours of looking for the problem i shifted the memory card slots, and it booted
[15:28] <Shmeck> OK, off to eat while open office downloads itself
[15:28] <Shmeck> ;)
[15:28] <Shmeck> btw, alt+f2 and "terminal" doesn't work for me :|
[15:29] <Shmeck> wait.. I don't know what I did, but now it runs fine =\
[16:07] <Shmeck> i'm back
[16:08] <cody-somerville> welcome back
[16:08] <Shmeck> thanksm good to be back
[16:08] <Shmeck> :P
[16:09] <Shmeck> internet is down again though=\
[16:09] <Shmeck> on the xubuntu
[16:09] <Shmeck> i think the usb stick is faulty..
[16:10] <Shmeck> it tends to disappear from the lsusb
[16:10] <Shmeck> a shame
[16:58] <SiDi> Shmeck: then yes likely
[16:58] <SiDi> Shmeck: abut your Alt+F2 question : the name of the term is xfce4-terminal
[16:58] <SiDi> i personally boud it to Alt+F3 :D
[18:41] <slow-motion> hi
[18:43] <Torgoton2> I just installed Xubuntu 8.10 on an old laptop and have no GUI. I'd appreciate some tips.
[18:45] <th0r> Torgoton2: you might check dmesg and messages for indications of what went wrong
[18:46] <Torgoton2> th0r: Thanks. The GUI seems to work, that is, I get a display, but it looks like about 120x80 pixels of the desktop blown up to 640x480, and no cursor displays. The Xorg log is big, too, and I'm not sure what to look for.
[18:47] <th0r> Torgoton2: you might try to force a reconfig of X with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh'
[18:48] <th0r> Torgoton2: beyond that, I am not real familiar with X
[19:16] <twig11> Anybody here who can give me some assistance installing Xubuntu 9.04 from the desktop cd on an older PC?
[19:16] <twig11> Anybody here at all?
[19:16] <knome> !ask | twig11
[19:18] <twig11> When I boot from the Desktop CD, I select English as the language, "Try Xubuntu without any change to your computer," and I get the splash screen for awhile. Then it switches to a command prompt. What can I do from there. I'm mostly a novice.
[19:19] <twig11> I'm at the command prompt now.
[19:20] <twig11> It isn't a name-brand box, but the processor says it's AuthenticAMD, about 1GHz, and it's got 512 Mb of RAM
[19:21] <knome> have you tried the safe graphics mode?
[19:22] <twig11> I didn't see that option on the menu when I booted up. Where do I select that?
[19:23] <twig11> knome: found it.
[19:23] <twig11> knome: booting...
[19:24] <twig11> knome: and I'm back at the command prompt. Any ideas?
[19:24] <knome> mhm.
[19:24] <knome> sounds weird
[19:24] <knome> what happens if you run 'startx' ?
[19:24] <twig11> how?
[19:26] <twig11> knome: what is startx?
[19:27] <knome> in the command prompt, just type it and press enter
[19:27] <knome> startx should start the x server (graphical environment)
[19:27] <Raggs_> hi knome
[19:28] <knome> hello Raggs_
[20:02] <Torgoton2> th0/part
[20:37] <wolfgang> what is the easiest ftp server to set up to work witha web server
[20:41] <jadez03> wolfang,
[20:41] <jadez03> the famous easy to use win32 graphical client FileZilla is available in synaptic
[20:45] <wolfgang> sweet
[20:45] <wolfgang> yeah thatsa what i thought iabout using
[20:45] <wolfgang> but i could try vsftpd and maybe use webmin
[20:45] <wolfgang> if i choose to use a gui
[20:45] <wolfgang> right?
[20:46] <wolfgang> for filezilla how do i set up the ftp server first?
[20:47] <wolfgang> yeah sorry
[20:48] <wolfgang> simple questions no one needs to answe them
[20:48] <wolfgang> i already answer them myself just have a bada habbit of thinking outload (err typing it out)
[20:49] <donnat> I'm getting uber slow OpenGL in games (less than 1 frame every 10 seconds). But SDL games, Compiz, and glxgears (750FPS) are fine. <http://pastebin.com/m3e0e8fc9>
[20:55] <uofm49426> hey i want some advice form someone that has a ati x1200 or legacy ati
[20:56] <uofm49426> would you trust the opensource driver upgrade to xubuntu 904 or stay with 8.10
[20:56] <wolfgang> where is my ftp home deirectory
[20:57] <wolfgang> nevermind found it
[20:57] <uofm49426> anyone have ati
[20:57] <uofm49426> video
[20:57] <wolfgang> but for example if i want to place files on my www folder how would i do that?
[20:57] <jadez03> haha, wolfgang, filezilla is self explanatory, if you want the GUI
[20:57] <jadez03> use quickconnect
[20:58] <jadez03> username: pass:
[20:58] <jadez03> then you'll likely (if your host has given you root) be in the root of your webserver
[20:58] <wolfgang> so i wouldnt have to change my ftp directory to be the same as www directory
[20:58] <jadez03> to make it accessible online you want to put your files in /public_html/
[20:58] <jadez03> oh
[20:58] <jadez03> no i don't think so
[20:59] <wolfgang> ok let install the filezilla client
[20:59] <jadez03> uofm49426,
[20:59] <jadez03> it depends on what you want to do
[21:00] <jadez03> i'm on the latest opensource driver on my ATI and everything runs beautifully, save openGL for games...thats maybe 10fps
[21:00] <jadez03> but flash, videos, all of that, is perfect
[21:01] <uofm49426> i have x1200 laptop video
[21:03] <uofm49426> runing 8.10 i dont like the fglrx because it so choppy with screensavers
[21:03] <uofm49426> and anything 3d\
[21:03] <uofm49426> i use the run file from ati
[21:04] <uofm49426> i guess i want it to run as well as it can
[21:04] <wolfgang> what port is ftp thru?
[21:06] <wolfgang> dang this is weird i though i disabled anonymous login
[21:06] <uofm49426> jadez what card you have
[21:07] <wolfgang> under the vsftpd.conf i cahnge anonymous_enabled=YES to NO and i can log in anonymously through filezilla
[21:07] <wolfgang> and i dont have access to www
[21:08] <wolfgang> only to ftp
[21:08] <wolfgang> theres a way to change what my home ftp directory is right
[21:21] <uofm49426> is the opensource in the repos
[21:21] <uofm49426> is the opensource ati driver in the repos
[21:25] <dans__> hi, i installed xubuntu on my laptop. now i'm trying to set up the internet connection using networkmanager. (wlan + pppoe)
[21:26] <dans__> connecting to the wlan seems to work (/var/log/daemon.log)
[21:27] <dans__> but i have no idea how to make it connect to the dsl-conection i configured
[21:28] <wolfgang> how do i configure vsftpd?
[21:29] <wolfgang> i already set anonmous enabled to no and it still allows anonymous login
[21:29] <wolfgang> also i need to change what the ftp home diretory points to
[21:29] <jadez03> im sorry wolfgang and uofm49426, i had to take the dog out
[21:30] <jadez03> are you the owner of your webserver?
[21:30] <jadez03> dans__, install WiCD over wlan
[21:30] <jadez03> sudo apt-get install wicd
[21:31] <zoredache> wolfgang: did you restart vsftpd after making that configuration change?
[21:31] <jadez03> it's a better connection manager, wired link detection, dhcp support, route table flushing
[21:31] <dans__> jadez03, does it do pppoe?
[21:31] <zoredache> wolfgang: you would probably gett  beter help on #ubuntu-server
[21:33] <jadez03> dans__, i didn't know, but a google search makes me think no, at least as of 1-12-09
[21:34] <jadez03> http://wicd.net/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=391
[21:34] <jadez03> try a google of "ubuntu ppoe"
[21:34] <jadez03> i'm sure you're not the only one trying to use pppoe
[21:34] <jadez03> pppoe*
[21:34] <dans__> yes, that's that i read, too... it's used to set up wlan. but wlan works
[21:35] <dans__> i've been searching since sunday... :)
[21:35] <jadez03> lol the post says wired and wireless ;)
[21:36] <dans__> and i know it must work somehow because i'm online using the same wlan+modem from this computer/ubuntu...
[21:36] <dans__> /var/log/daemon.log looks like networkmanager never even tries to do pppoe.
[21:37] <jadez03> damn he quit as i was typing something to help him =\
[21:38] <jadez03> dans__,
[21:38] <dans__> (ah, okay... /quit kills the server-connection... ;) )
[21:38] <jadez03> have you tried a 'sudo pppoeconf' command?
[21:39] <jadez03> lol i made that mistake last night after a few too many drinks :P
[21:39] <dans__> yes, tried that, it will kill networkmanager... so i have to setup the network manually...
[21:40] <jadez03> ugh
[21:41] <dans__> and after starting "pon dsl-provider" /var/log/messages says "timeout waiting for PADO packet" or something like that
[21:41] <dans__> is there a networkmanager irc-channel somewhere?
[21:41] <jadez03> sorry i'm not more help
[21:41] <jadez03> i'm not a guru, just like to try and help out
[21:41] <dans__> well thanks anyways
[21:42] <dans__> i'm still not sure if i need a guru or just a documentation...
[21:42] <jadez03> haha
[21:42] <jadez03> Hmm, I have a question of my own now
[21:43] <jadez03> The default mixer for xfce doesn't work with my laptop multimedia buttons now (did in gnome)
[21:43] <jadez03> and also doesn't have a drop down window to adjust volume, i have to open the mixer
[21:43] <jadez03> any way I could fix this?
[21:50] <wolfgang> dang filezilla is so slow on my system
[21:51] <jadez03> transfer speed or running speed
[21:51] <wolfgang> running speed of the program
[21:51] <wolfgang> i jsut had to restart it
[21:51] <wolfgang> it wrks fine now
[21:52] <wolfgang> well i havent tranfered the ifle yet
[21:52] <wolfgang> thats when it crashed
[21:52] <wolfgang> i get all failed tranfers
[21:52] <wolfgang> do i have to enable something on my vsftp.conf
[21:53] <wolfgang> permission denied
[21:54] <wolfgang> enabled writes?
[21:54] <wolfgang> or what
[21:57] <jadez03> not my area of expertise =
[21:57] <jadez03> =\*
[22:00] <n2diy> what is a good wysiwyg html editor?
[22:09] <aacosta_> join #ubuntu
[22:09] <aacosta_> whoop
[22:09] <aacosta_> s
[22:09] <aacosta_> y
[22:10] <rdehler> does anyone know how to hide a password from my active command in `w` ?
[22:10] <rdehler> i'm using rlwrap and putting the password on argv, and i don't want it broadcast in `w`, `who`, `ps`, etc
[22:12] <aacosta_> i cant upload or download
[22:12] <aacosta_> sing filezilla
[22:36] <MTec007> hey guys, i need a little bit of help with my wifi card. it was working under xfce but i am testing out lxde and it doesnt seem that my wifi card is working under it
[22:52] <jadez03> never heard of lxde till just now, sorry I can't help but thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'm a fiend for performance
[22:53] <jadez03> i would check out their irc channel for help, http://lxde.org/irc
[22:53] <MTec007> its dead in there
[22:53] <MTec007> lxde is very nice compared to xfce performance wise
[22:54] <MTec007> i just cant get wifi to work under lxde
[23:08] <khems> I need help for canadian multilingual keyboard
[23:09] <gaurdro> khems, what sorta help?
[23:09] <khems> I am trying to get character which comes by pressing alt+E
[23:10] <khems> and character on keyboard is looks like OE
[23:10] <khems> But I am unable to get this character
[23:12] <gaurdro> what is your keyboard layout?  menu->settings->keyboard->layouts
[23:12] <khems> ca
[23:13] <khems> canadian multilingual
[23:13] <khems> I am a developer and want to fix this issue by making changes in configuration setting
[23:13] <khems> or if required any code changes
[23:19] <jadez03> MTec007, you still around?
[23:19] <MTec007> yes
[23:19] <jadez03> what kind of wireless card do you have?
[23:20] <jadez03> im interested in switching to LXDE now
[23:20] <MTec007> its a dell 1350 pcmia
[23:20] <jadez03> hmm
[23:21] <MTec007> i now think that i have to install lxnm network manager, which when i try to install it, it wants to unintall network-manager package
[23:21] <MTec007> and i dont want that
[23:21] <MTec007> but my lan0 works. just not my wlan0
[23:22] <MTec007> i might just have to do it.
[23:22] <khems> gaurdro any thought?
[23:22] <aacosta_> im having some trouble with vsftpd
[23:22] <aacosta_> i cnt upload r download anything
[23:23] <aacosta_> i try to upload into my www folder and get failed traners
[23:23] <aacosta_> tanfers*
[23:23] <aacosta_> transfers
[23:23] <gaurdro> nothing yet,  I use us, and I'm trying to figure out where to disable the alt key shortcut for opening menus.
[23:23] <aacosta_> i already edited the vsftpd.conf to allow writes and local logins
[23:23] <aacosta_> anyother configuration im missing?
[23:24] <khems> sorry it is ctrl+e not alt
[23:24] <gaurdro> aha,  that should help
[23:25] <khems> my xmodmap shows as e E oe OE oe  OE
[23:29] <gaurdro> I don't know if this helps but I get the oe character from the 'e' key with ca multilingual 2nd-part.  but it won't show up with the first part or the normal multilingual
[23:30] <gaurdro> this might be an issue suited to the mailing list,  not many people actually check the channel.
[23:33] <khems> what is second part
[23:33] <khems> and first part
[23:33] <khems> how do I send mail to mailing list
[23:38] <khems> gaurdro?
[23:39] <gaurdro> so if you go to the layouts and press edit, goto canada and click the arrow there are several there.  I'll grab a link for the mailing list.
[23:40] <gaurdro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-users is the users page
[23:40] <gaurdro> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel is the developers list.
[23:42] <khems> anyone can send mail here
[23:43] <knome> khems, you'd better subscribe to the list so you will get the replies whatever happened.
[23:43] <knome> khems, please send support questions to xubuntu-users.
[23:43] <khems> ok
[23:43] <aacosta_> have some probles using vsftpd
[23:43] <khems> thanks knomw
[23:43] <knome> khems, np.
[23:45] <shmeck> I found out that many people experience weird problems using RutilT
[23:45] <aacosta_> i cant upload or  download
[23:45] <shmeck> appearantly with specific usb sticks
[23:46] <knome> aacosta_, i use sshfs for secure file transfers
[23:46] <knome> !sshfs
[23:46] <aacosta_> ok im going to get rid of csftp
[23:46] <aacosta_> vsftpd
[23:46] <aacosta_> how good is sshfs?
[23:47] <knome> you mount the host as a local folder and then move/copy files like it was a local folder. it is really good.
[23:47] <knome> i like it a lot.
[23:47] <knome> it's way more stable than any sftp system i've used
[23:47] <aacosta_> sweet
[23:47] <aacosta_> the main thing i need to do is upload files to my www folder
[23:47] <aacosta_> is that possible with shfs
[23:47] <aacosta_> sshfs
[23:48] <knome> sure. you can select the folder which you mount (on the remote system also)
[23:48] <knome> and you can connect with any user
[23:49] <aacosta_> ok are you gona be on here for a while? im gona try to set it up
[23:50] <knome> suppose i am :)
[23:52] <aacosta_> damn
[23:52] <aacosta_> i have to go i guess i cant set it up at the momment
[23:52] <aacosta_> grrrr
[23:53] <khems> gaurdro I think susbscription will take some time
[23:53] <khems> Anyone else who has done development for canadian keyboard layout
[23:54] <gaurdro> it shouldn't,  it should send you a confirmation email a few minutes after you fill out the form.
[23:54] <aacosta_> sudo adduser $USER fuse
[23:54] <aacosta_> how do i add myself
[23:54] <aacosta_> i said fuse already there or something
[23:54] <khems> I need help for oe character
[23:54] <khems> I have filled u form
[23:54] <khems> filled up
[23:55] <aacosta_> the gorup fuse already exist
[23:58] <knome> aacosta_, 'sudo adduser yourusername fuse' adds you to the fuse group.
[23:59] <aacosta_> damn
[23:59] <aacosta_> and can i use filezilla
[23:59] <aacosta_> to acces that ftp
[23:59] <aacosta_> or nah
[23:59] <knome> don't know filezilla, sorry
[23:59] <aacosta_> oh ok
[23:59] <aacosta_> sorry
[23:59] <knome> sshfs is not the easiest to set up but it's they way most efficient to use once it's set up