[05:38] <macvr> does anyone know how to *remove* a project from a bug? since there are so many papercuts being reported and reassigned , its almost creating spam
[07:55] <hyperair> macvr: you can only mark a project as invalid.
[07:55] <hyperair> no way to remove it
[08:31] <macvr> hyperair: another easy way i find is re-assign it  , but sometimes I'm too lazy to identify the project ;p
[08:31] <hyperair> macvr: you can only reassign a source packge in a distro, but not an actual project =\
[08:32] <macvr> yup
[08:34] <macvr> hyperair: well the prob is there are so many *1 line feature requests* , after a time its like why bother when the OP doesnt even take the time to complete his own requests!
[08:34] <hyperair> heheh leave it to the bug triagers to feel the pain of stupid bug reportrs =p
[08:34] <hyperair> reporters*
[08:34] <hyperair> i just request for information and mark every damn thing as incomplete
[08:35] <SiDi> macvr: you sleep from times to times ?
[08:35] <macvr> SiDi: nope ;p
[08:35] <hyperair> it's 1pm over there anyways. not bedtime is it?
[08:36] <SiDi> its 9 AM here. But the fact is that macvr is on when i go bed and on when i wake up, and i dont sleep much, hyperair 
[08:36] <hyperair> SiDi: i'm sure he sleeps when you're not looking ;)
[08:36] <macvr> SiDi: well , i just leave my laptop running
[08:37] <hyperair> SiDi: i think many people think the same about me.
[08:38] <macvr> SiDi: its been on since the last 3 yrs ;p , rarely switch it off , if it had a mouth it would beg for mercy
[08:38] <hyperair> D=
[08:39] <hyperair> why do you even use a laptop instead of a desktop then?
[08:40] <macvr> hyperair: i find it easy , rather than a desktop , can lie down ;p  too lazy to sit
[08:43] <hyperair> macvr: one of my exclassmates had a cpu and monitor next to his bed, with the keyboard and mouse on the bed. =p
[08:44] <hyperair> granted, his case was because he really didn't have anywhere else to put it but hey it meant he could lie down and use it. =p
[08:44] <macvr> but he cant carry it around , can he ;p
[08:45] <hyperair> hmm good point =p
[08:48] <hyperair> my notebook's kinda grounded as well due to the attached monitor =p
[08:50] <macvr> i make sure not to get used to dual monitors... 
[08:50] <hyperair> i only use this set up when i'm home
[08:50] <hyperair> ~3 months or so then i'm off again
[08:50] <macvr> it just becomes weird if its not attached !
[08:50] <hyperair> hehehe
[08:50] <hyperair> well it takes some getting used to but it's fine =\
[08:51] <hyperair> on the other hand, when i'm using a dual monitor setup, i have to make sure not to trigger the compiz ezoom plugin when the cursor is near place where the two monitors join
[08:52] <hyperair> the cursor starts to jump between the two monitors
[08:52] <hyperair> very irritating
[08:52] <hyperair> i contacted the ezoom plugin author about it.. last year i think. no news =\
[08:52] <hyperair> i mean he did say he would work on it, but i haven't heard from him since
[08:55] <macvr> ah ... almost forgot about all the compiz probs!
[11:54]  * MacSlow -> lunch
[15:28] <SiDi> tedg: ping ?
[15:28] <tedg> SiDi: Hey, I'm on a call right now... I can answer in a few minutes.
[15:28] <SiDi> okey
[15:38] <tedg> SiDi: Sorry about that, what's up?
[15:39] <SiDi> tedg: hello. i wanted to ask you if it was possible to split libindicate and indicator-applet in LP so that libindicate can be built without indicator-applet's specific dependencies
[15:39] <tedg> SiDi: Uhm, in theory.  But, I'm not sure why that'd make a difference.  It seems like that only effects Soyuz, right?
[15:40] <SiDi> tedg: its actually because someone (Mark__T) wrote an indicator-applet-xfce
[15:40] <SiDi> and it depends on libindicate 2
[15:41] <SiDi> (and my karmic vm doesnt have enough room anymore to install all indicator-applet's dependencies :$ - but anyway it'd be cool for the xfce people to can easily test the xfce applet if you could split the lib and the gnome applet)
[15:42] <tedg> SiDi: Okay.  I can look at doing that, they kinda grew organically to be in the same repo.  There's no technical reason to have them together.
[15:42] <SiDi> tedg: great :)
[15:42] <tedg> I'll make kenvandine go through the NEW process of having different source packages ;)
[15:42] <SiDi> kenvandine: sorry :P
[15:42]  * tedg owes kenvandine lots of beer next week :)
[15:42] <kenvandine> :)
[15:43] <kenvandine> new source package... that is a ton of work :/
[15:44] <kenvandine> SiDi, i don't see why that matters?
[15:44] <kenvandine> you don't have to install indicator-applet... just libindicate
[15:45] <kenvandine> actually i guess it shouldn't be that much work...  since it was already in main... just being split
[15:45] <kenvandine> can someone file a bug about that and assign it to me?
[15:46] <SiDi> kenvandine: i cant build it :/
[15:46] <SiDi> i need to download all of indicator-applet's deps for building libindicate
[15:47] <kenvandine> in theory you shouldn't need to build it :)
[15:47] <SiDi> i need the trunk one for the xfce applet :)
[15:47] <kenvandine> we just need to get it in main
[15:47] <SiDi> is there a deb for libindicate 0.2 yet ?
[15:50] <tedg> SiDi: I don't think I've put one out there.  But the packaging branch is up-to-date and should build.
[15:51] <tedg> kenvandine: I think it's something we should do anyway as when GNOME 3 comes around the applet part will have to die anyway.
[15:51] <tedg> I'd imagine all the bonobo deps will fall out of main rather quickly.  Or perhaps I'm just being hopeful :)
[15:51] <kenvandine> tedg, yeah... i guess the first step is to split it into a separate branch right?
[15:52] <kenvandine> the sources is what matters for SiDi
[15:52] <tedg> kenvandine: Hmm, yeah.  Do you think they should be separate LP projects?
[15:52] <tedg> It seems like a 1:1 of source packages to LP projects makes things easier.
[15:53] <tedg> But, I don't work on the distro anymore ;)
[15:54] <kenvandine> tedg, nah... i am happy having them in one project
[15:54] <kenvandine> just split it in bzr
[15:54] <kenvandine> and we can create releases for each independantly
[15:55] <tedg> Okay.  I'm not going to do that today.  But it'll be a good activity when I can't sleep on the plane.
[15:55] <tedg> It doesn't take a lot of thought, but takes time :)
[15:55] <kenvandine> :)
[15:55] <kenvandine> cool
[15:55] <kenvandine> tedg, how is the empathy stuff coming?
[15:55] <kenvandine> i plan on doing my part of it on the plane :)
[15:55] <kenvandine> unless i find time before then
[15:56] <tedg> kenvandine: Apparently there is going to be an Empathy/Telepathy hackfest session at Desktop Summit.
[15:56] <kenvandine> yup
[15:56] <tedg> kenvandine: I was thinking about doing it then.
[15:56] <kenvandine> ok
[15:56] <tedg> kenvandine: Then I have a basis for asking questions :)
[15:56] <kenvandine> i was thinking it would be nice to have it before then :)
[15:57] <tedg> kenvandine: I can try, but I need to get some applet stuff done and slides for my talk Monday.  Plus, I'm single-parenting it this week.  I'm not optimistic that I'll get much time on it.
[15:57] <kenvandine> sure
[15:57] <kenvandine> understand
[15:57] <kenvandine> i am still needing to prepare for my talk on tuesday :)
[15:58] <tedg> I don't even have a clear vision for my slide template yet... usually I have that by now. :)
[15:58] <tedg> The new background art wasn't as inspiring as previous ones :(
[16:00] <kenvandine> tedg, background art... did i miss something?
[16:01] <tedg> kenvandine: http://gould.cx/ted/presentations/scale7x/
[16:01] <kenvandine> oh... background art you created :)
[16:02] <tedg> kenvandine: Well, that was basically the Hardy background remixed.
[16:02] <tedg> It was all kwwii's doing.
[16:02] <kenvandine> :)
[16:03] <artir> get the jaunty background and do the same :)
[16:03]  * kenvandine is using gnome love artwork :)
[16:03] <kenvandine> feels weird that my talk will demo something not based on ubuntu... and.. it feels weird that that feels weird :)
[16:03] <tedg> artir: Yeah, the Jaunty background is boring.
[16:04] <tedg> kenvandine: Heh.
[16:04] <artir> who did it?
[16:04] <tedg> artir: I believe that mt did.
[16:04] <tedg> Though I'm not sure.
[16:04] <kenvandine> i like it... it is good for a wallpaper
[16:05] <artir> and for cd covers too
[16:05] <kenvandine> yup
[16:05]  * tedg thinks you guys are bland ;)
[16:06] <kenvandine> :)
[16:07] <artir> i haven't changed the wallpaper since i installed jaunty, it's simplicity it's appealing
[16:07] <artir> plus i don't usually see my desktop clean :P
[17:54] <macvr> djsiegel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/393158
[17:55] <macvr> djsiegel: ^something that can be fixed this cycle :)
[17:58] <djsiegel> macvr: awesome, but I gtg now
[17:58] <macvr> later...
[17:58] <lamalex> go to his new job as Apple CEO he means
[17:59] <macvr> CEO , haha!
[17:59] <macvr> somebody will probably have to forcibly throw out Jobs 
[19:18] <SiDi> MacSlow: do you use the gconf font size / dpi for notify-osd in trunk ?
[19:19] <MacSlow> yes
[19:23] <SiDi> MacSlow: wont work with xfce ^.^
[19:23] <SiDi> i was wondering why the font was _so_ little with trunk... my gnome font used to be more little than the xfce one
[19:23] <MacSlow> *shrugg*
[19:24] <SiDi> MacSlow: i'm gonna report this cause we're likely to use notify-osd in xubuntu now (i think its already the case in karmic)
[19:24] <SiDi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/notify-osd/+bug/339026 actually its already here
[19:24] <MacSlow> correct
[19:25] <MacSlow> actually I don't have time to look at bugs atm
[19:25] <SiDi> no problem