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| seele | can anyone get flash to work in arora? | 02:24 |
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| JontheEchidna | works fine here | 02:30 |
| ScottK | Right, but you're sick and went to the dentist today. You aren't a credible witness. | 02:30 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 02:30 |
| seele | how did you install it? i used the deb packaged and restarted arora and it still isnt working | 02:30 |
| JontheEchidna | I installed flashplugin-installer a while back | 02:33 |
| seele | hum.. that is already installed | 02:34 |
| seele | grr | 02:34 |
| seele | i'm not giving it a passing grade if i can't get hulu to work! | 02:34 |
| * seele stomps her foot | 02:34 | |
| JontheEchidna | come to think of it, hulu didn't work the last time I tried it | 02:35 |
| JontheEchidna | youtube works, though | 02:37 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, hulu no workey | 02:37 |
| seele | yeah, screw that. F | 02:40 |
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| Quintasan | hi \o | 07:57 |
| hunger | Very quiet today... Is everybody traveling to akademy? | 11:00 |
| freinhard | nope, some don't ;) | 11:16 |
| Tm_T | wish I were | 11:18 |
| pkt | It seems the reverse dependencies of kdebase-runtime 4.2.95 are in karmic while kdebase-runtime itself isn't | 11:36 |
| seaLne | should any updates yesterday in kde settings disable keyboard layouts? today i had to re enable them | 11:46 |
| neversfelde | same here | 11:52 |
| seaLne | and i want my sound back, makes video editing hard *sulk* ;) | 12:05 |
| refic | :) | 12:06 |
| pkt | what happened to your sound? pulse audio? | 12:06 |
| hunger | seaLne: I think there were some xorg/hal updates that broke keyboard layouts in X yesterday. | 12:08 |
| seaLne | pkt: hmm actually it looks like sound is working again \o/ alsa just seemed to be crashing which was weird kmix would die if you did anything and alsamixer wouldn't work either | 12:12 |
| pkt | seaLine: that is good news, since my sound is still not working | 12:16 |
| pkt | but I don't care enough to look, there are bigger problems for now :) | 12:16 |
| pkt | btw, I think the reason behind the current kde fiasco is the buggy kdepimlibs5 package | 12:18 |
| pkt | in kdelibs5.install it should have been libgpgme*.so.2.2.1 not 2.2.0 | 12:18 |
| pkt | I mean kdepimlibs5.install of course | 12:23 |
| Trouble | KDE 4.3 RC1 has been officially relleased on kde.org! \o/ | 12:25 |
| Ke | yays | 12:25 |
| pkt | there is a circular dependency that troubles me | 14:10 |
| pkt | kdebase-runtime -> kdebase-workspace -> libknotificationitem1 -> kdebase-runtime | 14:11 |
| pkt | this is also for build dependencies (!) | 14:11 |
| pkt | I can't understand how kdebase-runtime can be built with such a dependency | 14:12 |
| pkt | is it really needed? | 14:12 |
| * ScottK thought we fixed that. | 14:13 | |
| pkt | ScottK: thanks, I 'll try an apt-get update | 14:15 |
| ScottK | pkt: I mean a while ago. We may have inadvertently dropped the fix. | 14:16 |
| pkt | ScottK: yeah, it is not working right now | 14:17 |
| pkt | what was the fix btw? | 14:17 |
| lex79 | pkt: a line in debian/rules | 14:21 |
| ScottK | Something like dpkg-shlibs -x whateverbinarynamefromkdebase-runtime in libknotificationitem1 debian/rules | 14:21 |
| ScottK | lex79: Can you check that? | 14:22 |
| lex79 | ScottK: in kdelibs-experimental ? | 14:22 |
| ScottK | lex79: Yes. | 14:22 |
| lex79 | ok | 14:22 |
| pkt | cool, that would be nice | 14:24 |
| pkt | I will try it here too | 14:24 |
| divan | hi all - quick question(if anyone knows) - when will kde 4.3 rc1 be hitting any kubuntu repo now that its out? | 14:24 |
| pkt | soon probably | 14:24 |
| ScottK | divan: It's mostly, if not all, in Karmic now. | 14:24 |
| pkt | isn't 4.3rc1 the 4.2.95? | 14:24 |
| lex79 | yes it is | 14:25 |
| pkt | then indeed it is almost there but the kubuntu-desktop metapackage is uninstallable right now | 14:25 |
| ScottK | Except pimlibs totall ftbfs. | 14:25 |
| divan | ScottK: Thanks - jaunty? switching to Karmic might be a bit too buggy for me just yet :) | 14:25 |
| pkt | yeah | 14:25 |
| ScottK | Dunno, but I know the PPA for backports is being worked. | 14:25 |
| pkt | I posted the fix in this channel :) | 14:25 |
| pkt | just up libgpgme++ from 2.2.0 -> 2.2.1 everywhere (kdepimlibs5.install) and it works | 14:26 |
| pkt | now if that bug with kdebase-runtime/kdelibs is fixed too, the whole should work (hopefully) :) | 14:27 |
| ScottK | pkt: Thanks. I'm looking at pimlibs now. | 14:28 |
| micmord | Hi kubuntu folks, does anyone knows if someone is working on porting "kiosktool" on KDE4? I am lock to kde3 on kubuntu 8.04.2 :-( | 14:28 |
| ScottK | micmord: There has been some discussion about it, but I don't know how much progress. | 14:28 |
| ScottK | micmord: #kde-devel is probably a better place to ask. | 14:28 |
| micmord | ScottK: thanks | 14:28 |
| * ScottK is fixing pimlibs.... | 14:29 | |
| freinhard | ScottK: in case you have a look at kdepim, would be nice to know why ktimetracker_plugin.dekstop get's lost. | 14:29 |
| ScottK | freinhard: It'll be long enough before I get to it that I'll probably forget. You might ping whoever did the current upload. | 14:29 |
| ScottK | Bonus points for Riddell on pimlibs for uploading it to the archive with ~ppa1 still on it. | 14:30 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: that's there so we can see if you catch it | 14:31 |
| pkt | hmm, kdelibs-experimental's debian/rules is one line only :/ | 14:34 |
| pkt | it probably needs an override or such | 14:34 |
| lex79 | pkt: i'm working on it | 14:39 |
| * ScottK is on the phone. | 14:41 | |
| pkt | lex79: thanks, tell me if you could use any help/testing/etc :) | 14:44 |
| lex79 | :) | 14:44 |
| lex79 | ok, testbuild done, fixed | 14:49 |
| lex79 | ScottK: fixed in bzr | 14:49 |
| pkt | lex79: great, thanks :) | 14:50 |
| lex79 | yep | 14:50 |
| ScottK | Off the phone. Test building the old pimlibs first to make sure I can replicate the failure, then I'll try pkt's fix. Working on lex79's circular build-dep fix in the mean time .... | 15:10 |
| lex79 | and fixing launchpad bug 394168 :) | 15:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 394168 in kdeartwork "error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdewallpapers_4%3a4.2.95-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394168 | 15:11 |
| ScottK | pkt: The magical cdbs incantation (thanks to lex79) is DEB_DH_SHLIBDEPS_ARGS_ALL := -- -xkdebase-runtime | 15:11 |
| ScottK | lex79: Later. I'll work my way up the stack. | 15:12 |
| lex79 | Yes ok | 15:12 |
| lex79 | ScottK: | 15:13 |
| lex79 | [01:35:23] <Riddell> kdepimlibs fixed | 15:13 |
| lex79 | [01:35:29] <Riddell> took an svn snapshot | 15:13 |
| lex79 | [01:35:33] <Riddell> seems to have fixed kdepim too | 15:13 |
| ScottK | lex79: It's FTBFS in the archive currently. | 15:13 |
| lex79 | very good | 15:14 |
| lex79 | ironic :) | 15:15 |
| pkt | SkottK: thanks for the info | 15:15 |
| pkt | I 'm a real newbie in cdbs :) | 15:16 |
| lex79 | me too lol | 15:16 |
| ScottK | pkt: Assuming your recommended fix for pimlibs works, I'll credit you in debian/changelog. How do you want to be listed? Pantelis Koukousoulas? | 15:17 |
| pkt | yeah, I don't mind | 15:18 |
| pkt | it is my real name | 15:18 |
| ScottK | I can also steal all the credit if you don't want to be listed? | 15:20 |
| Tm_T | "pick me pick me!" | 15:20 |
| pkt | hehe | 15:21 |
| * Tm_T shames him/her/itself | 15:21 | |
| Drknezz | Hi guys! | 15:21 |
| Drknezz | I want to ask something, why did you leave adept? packagekit is so bad, it barely displays GUI apps, and not all of 'em :( | 15:21 |
| pkt | probably because packagekit is cross-distro | 15:21 |
| Drknezz | but packagekit is evil | 15:22 |
| Drknezz | it is very limited | 15:22 |
| pkt | whatever gui features are missing can probably be added | 15:22 |
| Tm_T | Drknezz: can you provide precise data how it is limited? | 15:22 |
| ScottK | Drknezz: Adept was basically dead upstream. | 15:22 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: It is limited. | 15:22 |
| Drknezz | although kpackagekit has good looks, when you search for devel packages, none show up | 15:22 |
| Drknezz | whille in synaptic, packages are there | 15:23 |
| Tm_T | ScottK: yes, but saying "it's limited" itself tells nothing to me | 15:23 |
| ScottK | Drknezz: Essentially we don't develop a KDE package management front end. We went with the one we thought had the best change of being developed/maintained by someone else as we don't have the people to do it. | 15:23 |
| Drknezz | Tm_T: it is very "newbie-oriented", and when you search for devel packages which you dont know their names.... :/ | 15:23 |
| Drknezz | ScottK: hmmm... reasonable enough | 15:24 |
| Tm_T | interesting | 15:24 |
| pkt | I always just use the command-line | 15:24 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: My two favorites is it doesn't handle config file differences and doesn't verify packages are signed (Adept 3 didn't do this one either, but Adept 2 did) | 15:24 |
| Drknezz | ScottK: but i have a question, if Adet was cool, easy to use, and powerful in kde 3, why it became so crippled on Kde4? | 15:25 |
| Tm_T | Drknezz: KDE4 != KDE3 | 15:25 |
| ScottK | Drknezz: Because it had to be essentially rewritten to port it to KDE4 and the port was never finished. | 15:25 |
| Drknezz | pkt: try using apt-cache for all your package searching ;) | 15:25 |
| Drknezz | Tm_T: ¬¬ | 15:25 |
| pkt | that is what I do :) | 15:25 |
| Tm_T | Drknezz: there's wajig (:) | 15:25 |
| freinhard | adept took hours to load and searching was a pain on slow hardware. i like packagekit+index | 15:25 |
| pkt | I also use the web of course ;) | 15:26 |
| Drknezz | ScottK: The mantainer said he left the project because you just suddenly moved on to packagekit | 15:26 |
| Tm_T | Drknezz: says where? | 15:26 |
| ScottK | Drknezz: That's true. That's why I said barely maintained, not unmaintained. | 15:26 |
| ScottK | Tm_T: It's accurate. | 15:26 |
| Drknezz | freinhard: try searching for kernel packages with kpackagekit ;) | 15:26 |
| Drknezz | ScottK: oh well :/ | 15:26 |
| Drknezz | ScottK: I'll have to use Synaptic's lame grey-brown appearance when ran as root | 15:27 |
| ScottK | Drknezz: Adept was being done by one person who wasn't very motivated about it (this isn't a criticism, just the situation). | 15:27 |
| Drknezz | ScottK, i understand | 15:27 |
| ScottK | Drknezz: The command line tools really are better IMO. | 15:27 |
| ScottK | So you don't "have" to use synaptic | 15:28 |
| Drknezz | ScottK: i know, i love apt-get | 15:28 |
| pkt | e.g., 'apt-cache rdepends' | 15:28 |
| Drknezz | ScottK: but, when you're about to search for devel packages for a compilation :S | 15:28 |
| pkt | you just call the command you want | 15:29 |
| freinhard | Drknezz: that's why real kubuntu-hack0rz that need -dev packages or special kernel stuff use aptitude. | 15:29 |
| Drknezz | pkt: What if the app is not in repos? XD | 15:29 |
| pkt | and let command-not-found deal with the problem for you | 15:29 |
| Tm_T | freinhard: does not | 15:29 |
| Drknezz | freinhard: aptitude is kinda reundant for me, i prefer it only for installing meta-packages | 15:29 |
| pkt | Drknezz: if it is not in the repos then the gui tools can't help you either | 15:29 |
| Drknezz | pkt: command-not-foun phails sometimes | 15:30 |
| pkt | the gui tools fail more often :) | 15:30 |
| Drknezz | pkt: i mean, if the package isnt in repos, but it's deps are | 15:30 |
| freinhard | why are xsd files associated with konqueror? that's quite useless. | 15:30 |
| Drknezz | pkt: I <3 command line xD | 15:30 |
| * Drknezz is compiling the 2.6.30 kernel :p | 15:31 | |
| pkt | apt-get build-dep linux-image | 15:31 |
| Drknezz | pkt: i never use linux-image from repos | 15:31 |
| Drknezz | kernel.org FTW | 15:32 |
| pkt | you didn't get it | 15:32 |
| pkt | you just get the build-deps | 15:32 |
| Drknezz | deps | 15:32 |
| Drknezz | lol | 15:32 |
| Drknezz | idk, i just dont like using build-dep for some reason | 15:32 |
| Drknezz | build-dep is eeevil | 15:32 |
| pkt | no idea what you are talking about | 15:33 |
| ScottK | kdelibs-experimental uploaded. Thank you lex79 and pkt for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 15:33 |
| pkt | heh, nice :) | 15:33 |
| pkt | it built here fine too | 15:33 |
| Drknezz | I may revive my PPA :p | 15:33 |
| pkt | the ppas are the best feature of ubuntu/launchpad for me | 15:34 |
| Drknezz | :D | 15:34 |
| Drknezz | hmmm.... Ubuntu on the clouds | 15:34 |
| Drknezz | Kinda hard of thinking a computer on the net si processing your top-secret OO.org document, leaving your processor stupidly idle | 15:35 |
| pkt | well, if one is using a web service for top-secret stuff then it isn't the processor that is stupid :p | 15:36 |
| Drknezz | lol | 15:37 |
| Drknezz | Right | 15:37 |
| pkt | on the other hand running an experiment in 5 EC2 machines that cost you 2 euros in total | 15:37 |
| Drknezz | Anyways, why would someone ever want to make another pc process YOUR stuff? | 15:37 |
| pkt | while at the same time preventing your small laptop from frying | 15:37 |
| Drknezz | Appart from science | 15:37 |
| pkt | for public stuff in general, why not? | 15:38 |
| Drknezz | I mean, what's the real-world application of that? | 15:38 |
| pkt | cheaper cpu power, bigger bandwidth, persistence ... | 15:38 |
| pkt | sometimes it is a win, sometimes it isn't | 15:39 |
| Drknezz | "Hey guys, im using ubuntu in the cloud now, have to wait for the download to complete, so we can get out...." ¬¬ | 15:39 |
| Drknezz | Pretty lame if ur not on fast connection | 15:39 |
| Drknezz | As much as it can be useful, it can be pretty useless to the common ppl | 15:39 |
| Drknezz | Bye bye guys | 15:41 |
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| micmord | ScottK: kiosktool seems still alive https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-kiosk | 15:52 |
| micmord | sorry, correct url http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/sysadmin/kiosktool/ | 15:53 |
| ScottK | OK. Good to know. | 15:53 |
| nixternal | GOOD MORNING KUBUNINJAS! | 15:53 |
| micmord | really the ml contain a lot of spam | 15:53 |
| ScottK | pkt: I'm test building your pimlibs fix now. It turns out it was the way you suggested before and got (presumabley accidentally) reverted in the last upload. | 15:55 |
| jjesse | morning nixternal | 15:56 |
| jjesse | nixternal: you havea a job yet? | 15:56 |
| nixternal | no | 15:56 |
| jjesse | bummer on that | 15:56 |
| nixternal | I am cycling every day...I have applied to a few bike shops as well as Trek, Bontrager, SRAM, and others...thinking about getting into the cycling industry a little | 15:56 |
| nixternal | well, I have 27 days to decide if I am going to rejoin the military | 15:57 |
| nixternal | if I don't have a job by then, I just might be off, back in the Navy again | 15:57 |
| nixternal | cuz on the 29th, I turn 35 which means no more joining/rejoining the military | 15:57 |
| jjesse | what would you do in the navy this time? | 15:57 |
| seele | nixternal: how long do you sign up for? 6 years? | 15:57 |
| nixternal | same thing | 15:58 |
| nixternal | seele: probably 10 years | 15:58 |
| * jjesse doesn't remember last time | 15:58 | |
| ScottK | nixternal: National guard will take you up to 44. | 15:58 |
| jjesse | wow 10 years is a long time | 15:58 |
| nixternal | Gunner's Mate/Combat Engineer/Blow stuff up | 15:58 |
| jjesse | ooo cool | 15:58 |
| nixternal | ScottK: forget the National Guard, GO NAVY! | 15:58 |
| ScottK | Just saying. | 15:58 |
| seele | you know what they say about those navy guys.. | 15:58 |
| seele | ScottK: you were in the navy right? | 15:58 |
| nixternal | I am senior enlisted so ship duty is calling me :) | 15:58 |
| * seele 's brother is in Norfolk right now | 15:59 | |
| ScottK | seele: Yes. | 15:59 |
| nixternal | imagine all of the liberty I get now pulling into a port :) | 15:59 |
| nixternal | seele: that's probably where I would get stationed if I went through with this | 15:59 |
| nixternal | so, if you want to hire me, you have 27 days, otherwise I might be gone :) | 15:59 |
| seele | lol | 15:59 |
| * ScottK looks for kwwii to make countdown artwork. | 16:00 | |
| nixternal | blasting the Village People the entire ride to Norfolk! | 16:00 |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 16:00 |
| ScottK | ;-) | 16:00 |
| nixternal | that was good | 16:00 |
| * ScottK does $WORK while pimlibs builds .... | 16:08 | |
| pkt | kdepimlibs, kdelibs-experimental and kdebase-workspace built fine here | 16:10 |
| pkt | now building kdebase-runtime | 16:11 |
| nixternal | MC meetings will drain your life blood | 16:22 |
| * ScottK didn't need to join to guess that one. | 16:24 | |
| ScottK | pimlibs fix uploaded. Thanks again pkt. | 16:29 |
| maco | seele, should kmail say "canceled" instead of "aborted"? | 16:30 |
| maco | when you hit the "-" button on an imap sync | 16:30 |
| seele | maco: Canceled. The tooltip even says "Cancel this operation" | 16:31 |
| maco | really? | 16:32 |
| * maco tries it | 16:32 | |
| seele | unless it is inconsistent and it actually says aborted somewhere | 16:32 |
| maco | hey it does | 16:32 |
| seele | hehe | 16:32 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I need more space in ppa staging | 16:32 |
| maco | seele, should i just do it in kde's svn and send it upstream? | 16:33 |
| ScottK | lex79: Is there stuff in the the PPA that's already in Ubuntu and can be deleted? | 16:33 |
| maco | oy, im forgetting how to use svn | 16:33 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I'm uploading to stage the backport. so I think no | 16:33 |
| ScottK | Oh. | 16:34 |
| lex79 | before uploading to ppa backport I should uploading to staging for test install | 16:34 |
| lex79 | and if testbuild fine I can copy the packages to ppa backport | 16:35 |
| pkt | kdebase-runtime had some problems with a shutdown dialog svgz | 16:36 |
| seele | maco: i think that is probably best.. but if they dont like the changes let me know so i can talk to them | 16:37 |
| maco | seele, when "abort" is used in an error message to say that its the program giving up, not the user canceling the action, should that also be changed to "cancel"? | 16:41 |
| seele | maco: no, leave those for now because they might depend on semantics more | 16:42 |
| seele | i can see developers having a strong argument against a technical description compared to an interactive UI element | 16:42 |
| neversfelde | lex79: no bindings? :( | 16:42 |
| ScottK | It looks like a lot of stuff was blocked on kdepimlibs, so we should make progress soon. | 16:42 |
| lex79 | nope | 16:42 |
| maco | seele, alrighty | 16:43 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: python kde4 was empty | 16:43 |
| neversfelde | empty? | 16:43 |
| lex79 | yeah, binary package was empty :) | 16:44 |
| pkt | ouch | 16:44 |
| lex79 | in jaunty, not in karmic :) | 16:44 |
| pkt | oh | 16:44 |
| lex79 | same issue last time with 4.2.90, but doesn't matter now ;) | 16:45 |
| pkt | python bindings seem the most mature this time | 16:45 |
| pkt | although the ruby ones seem nice, too | 16:45 |
| ScottK | In karmic bindings is waiting on pimlibs. If there are bindings changes needed in karmic, please let me know soon. | 16:45 |
| pkt | kdebase-runtime built fine ? | 16:45 |
| lex79 | ScottK: what shoul I do with ppa ? :( | 16:45 |
| ScottK | lex79: No idea. I've never had to ask for more space. I think ask in #launchpad. | 16:46 |
| lex79 | ok | 16:46 |
| ScottK | pkt: Didn't look at runtime yet. | 16:46 |
| pkt | lex79: yes, the typical way is via a question | 16:46 |
| pkt | here is mine: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/72243 | 16:47 |
| ScottK | No one uploaded kdegraphics. | 16:48 |
| pkt | ScottK: kdebase-runtime didn't want to build here, just fyi | 16:48 |
| ScottK | Oh dear. | 16:49 |
| lex79 | kdegraphics is in ppa | 16:49 |
| ScottK | lex79: I'm pulling your packaging from bzr. I assume that's correct? | 16:59 |
| lex79 | uhmm..I don't remember, can you see in ppa k-n ? | 16:59 |
| lex79 | before to see bzr | 16:59 |
| ScottK | I've already got it test building. Would you please check. | 17:00 |
| ScottK | I can, but it's not convenient and I'm really supposed to be doing $WORK right now. | 17:00 |
| Daskreech | RC is on it's way to karmic? | 17:02 |
| pkt | yeah, it is | 17:03 |
| pkt | it is almost there actually | 17:03 |
| lex79 | ScottK: I'm checking, just a moment | 17:04 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 17:04 |
| neversfelde | staging ppa is full? | 17:07 |
| lex79 | ScottK: go | 17:09 |
| lex79 | ppa k-n == bzr | 17:09 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: yes , I requested more space -> 5GB | 17:09 |
| lex79 | :) | 17:10 |
| neversfelde | ok, I'll upload kdetoys to ninja then | 17:10 |
| pkt | launchpad probably needs a "transitions" feature like debian has | 17:16 |
| pkt | kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: x11-xserver-utils but it is not going to be installed | 17:21 |
| pkt | it seems x11-server-utils is not even in the archive | 17:22 |
| pkt | akonadi-server, x11-utils and kdepim-runtime are also uninstallable atm | 17:22 |
| pkt | x11-utils depends on libxxf8xdga1 | 17:23 |
| pkt | which isn't in the archive | 17:23 |
| pkt | shouldn't this dependency be just dropped? nobody uses DGA anymore | 17:23 |
| pkt | oops that was incorrect. x11-utils works now | 17:29 |
| pkt | what is kdepim-runtime? | 17:36 |
| Sime | lex79: what is the same issue with the bindings? | 17:41 |
| pkt | in the jaunty backport the python kde4 bindings binary package turned out empty :) | 17:45 |
| ScottK | Sime: I think it's just packaging issues. | 17:45 |
| Sime | ScottK: ok, thanks. | 17:45 |
| pkt | but in karmic it worked, so | 17:45 |
| ScottK | lex79: kdegraphics uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 17:46 |
| pkt | ScottK: have you seen the problem with kdepim-runtime? | 17:46 |
| pkt | plasma-widgets-workspace depends on kdepim-runtime | 17:47 |
| pkt | but such a package doesn't seem to exist | 17:47 |
| ScottK | I didn't look at it yet. | 17:48 |
| ScottK | I think it's new for 4.3 | 17:48 |
| pkt | yeah, I saw something about putting what akonadi needs there or something | 17:48 |
| pkt | but I don't know anything more :( | 17:49 |
| ScottK | It's in the New queue. | 17:58 |
| lex79 | kdeartwork fixed | 18:01 |
| neversfelde | gnarf, I have to leave again, dunno when I am back. So if kdeutils and kdetoys is a show stopper someone else have to do the jaunty packages. sorry | 18:03 |
| lex79 | neversfelde: ok | 18:04 |
| * ScottK throws up his hands. | 18:11 | |
| ScottK | No COPYING file in kdepim-runtime | 18:11 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^ | 18:11 |
| lex79 | fantastic | 18:11 |
| lex79 | ScottK: copyng file for akonadi? | 18:14 |
| ScottK | The kdepim-runtime package | 18:14 |
| lex79 | akonadi-kde now is in kdepim-runtime | 18:15 |
| lex79 | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi/ | 18:15 |
| pkt | yeah the same as akonadi should apply | 18:15 |
| lex79 | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi/COPYING?revision=989088&view=markup | 18:15 |
| ScottK | It's not in the tarball | 18:16 |
| ScottK | Looks like it was added after. | 18:17 |
| lex79 | I know but I think you can repackage the tarball | 18:17 |
| lex79 | no? | 18:17 |
| ScottK | I can. | 18:18 |
| ScottK | It wasn't how I planned on spending my afternoon. | 18:18 |
| pkt | it would take a whole afternoon? | 18:19 |
| lex79 | ahah :) I guess | 18:19 |
| ScottK | No. | 18:19 |
| ScottK | I'm already way over my Kubuntu time budget for today. | 18:19 |
| pkt | can I help? | 18:20 |
| ScottK | lex79: Can you put a package together? | 18:20 |
| lex79 | I should repackage the tarball ? | 18:21 |
| ScottK | lex79: Yes. | 18:21 |
| lex79 | ok, I will upload to ppa k-n | 18:21 |
| pkt | the k-n ppa is the "kubuntu-ninjas" private inaccessible thing? | 18:22 |
| lex79 | this evening, in my utc I mean :) | 18:22 |
| lex79 | pkt: yep | 18:22 |
| ScottK | lex79: No need to do it in the private repo anymore. | 18:22 |
| pkt | oh, I see | 18:22 |
| ScottK | Do it somewhere public so I can grab it more easily. | 18:22 |
| lex79 | uhm..ok in my ppa so | 18:23 |
| ScottK | pkt: We get tarballs from upstream pre-release to work on packaging on the condition we don't make them public until release day. | 18:23 |
| ScottK | Not that you can tell from today's mess. | 18:23 |
| pkt | hehe, it is not that bad :) | 18:23 |
| pkt | wait to see fedora | 18:23 |
| pkt | recompiling glibc just to get rpm to work | 18:24 |
| ScottK | lex79: dgetlp http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28565081/kdepim-runtime_4.2.95-0ubuntu1.dsc to get the existing package. | 18:24 |
| lex79 | ScottK: ok thanks, I poke you when is done | 18:24 |
| pkt | yey! with kdepim-runtime kubuntu-desktop finally becomes installable | 18:53 |
| refic | \o/ | 18:53 |
| Daskreech | So update? | 18:56 |
| pkt | not yet | 18:57 |
| pkt | I just managed to build what's needed locally here | 18:58 |
| pkt | you still have to wait for proper packages to be uploaded, compiled etc | 18:58 |
| pkt | at least there doesn't seem to be any more ftbs-type bugs :) | 18:58 |
| ScottK | kdegames not even uploaded .... | 18:59 |
| ScottK | Unless it's in New | 18:59 |
| * ScottK looks | 18:59 | |
| ScottK | Nope | 19:00 |
| pkt | well, at least nothing depends on kdegames | 19:01 |
| ScottK | Yeah, the node packages (the ones that other ones depend on) are all building now. | 19:01 |
| pkt | these are the ones I care about mostly :) | 19:01 |
| ScottK | pim won't be installable until we get -runtime licensing sorted out. | 19:02 |
| ScottK | lex79: I'm pushing kdegames into the archive now (it's a big tarball, so it will take a while). | 19:09 |
| * ScottK loves fat pipes. 52MB uploaded already. | 19:11 | |
| jjesse | anyone having crazy problems w/ plasma crashing on kde 4.2.90? | 19:51 |
| maco | jjesse, how long has 4.2.90 been karmic's version? | 19:52 |
| maco | if its been there a few weeks, then yeah, ive had it crash a few times | 19:53 |
| jjesse | maco: i'm running jaunty | 19:53 |
| maco | oh | 19:53 |
| jjesse | it seems to crash a lot | 19:53 |
| jjesse | my display will get fuzzy and then crash | 19:53 |
| divan | jjesse: I noticed plasma crashes consistently where a new network interface is brought up or lost. | 19:53 |
| jjesse | divan: agreed on that | 19:53 |
| maco | i dont have that problem | 19:53 |
| divan | perhaps its a known bug | 19:54 |
| maco | maybe nm is sending different errors and its having trouble interpretting them? | 19:54 |
| divan | will see if jaunty 4.2.95 fixes it - which is nowhere to be found (for the impatient) | 19:54 |
| jjesse | i reported a bug last night on bugs.kde.org where browsing smb shares was causing crashes and it was moved as a duplicate | 19:54 |
| jjesse | 4.2.95 is the one that was just announced as being available? release candidate or something like that? | 19:54 |
| divan | yip kde 4.3.0 rc 1 (as oppose to beta2) so that should hopefully address quite a few bugs. Its apparently available for karmic but not anywhere for jaunty yet | 19:56 |
| ScottK | lex79: I see kdepim 4.2.95a in KN ppa and an svn snapshot in bzr. Which is it (neither have been uploaded)? | 19:58 |
| ScottK | jjesse: RC packages are in progress. | 19:59 |
| DreadKnight | RC1 being packaged or what? | 20:01 |
| divan | as per [20:59] <ScottK> jjesse: RC packages are in progress. | 20:01 |
| DreadKnight | awesome | 20:01 |
| DreadKnight | thanks | 20:01 |
| DreadKnight | :) | 20:01 |
| divan | :) | 20:01 |
| jjesse | ScottK: thanks for the update, wasn't trying to be pushy, just have a plamsa crash problem :( | 20:05 |
| ScottK | We're mostly waiting on buildd's now. | 20:06 |
| * ScottK predicts sometime tomorrow before all the bits get done since I'm the onlyl core-dev around it seems. | 20:12 | |
| divan | ScottK: sorry - thanks for the work :) | 20:18 |
| ScottK | lex79: I went with 95a on pim | 20:23 |
| ScottK | So far I think it's all uploaded. Just need the fixed pim-runtime tarball. | 20:25 |
| Sime | this is for kubuntu-ppa backports? | 20:30 |
| * mgraesslin hopes he will be able to update before travelling to Gran Canaria :-) | 20:43 | |
| lex79 | ScottK: I'm here now | 20:44 |
| lex79 | so, is it all right? | 20:44 |
| * Sime and mgraesslin hope that we will be able to update before travelling to Gran Canaria :-] | 20:51 | |
| mgraesslin | or we have to ignore all those warnings on stagign website and install those packages :-P | 20:52 |
| lex79 | RC will be soon in backport ppa | 20:53 |
| mgraesslin | \o/ | 20:58 |
| lex79 | when will be ready ;) | 20:59 |
| mgraesslin | sure | 21:00 |
| mgraesslin | better a little bit later than broken packages | 21:00 |
| lex79 | mgraesslin: yes | 21:01 |
| Riddell | hola | 21:08 |
| Riddell | how's RC 1? | 21:08 |
| lex79 | Riddell: I need more space in staging !!! | 21:16 |
| Riddell | lex79: fooey. you need to ask a question on answer.launchpad.net/soyuz or something | 21:17 |
| maco | hiya Riddell | 21:17 |
| lex79 | Riddell: it is done...but launchpad guys are slow. I'm the fastest here :D | 21:18 |
| Riddell | lex79: link? | 21:19 |
| lex79 | Riddell: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/75823 | 21:20 |
| lex79 | I go to dinner now :P | 21:23 |
| Riddell | lex79: granted! | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | hi | 22:28 |
| Monika|K | hi | 22:31 |
| refic | hi | 22:33 |
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| lex79 | Riddell: thanks | 23:15 |
| Riddell | gran...canaria....internet...like...treaclre | 23:16 |
| lex79 | :) | 23:16 |
| lex79 | Riddell: http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdepim/akonadi/ | 23:28 |
| lex79 | COPYING and COPYING.LIB are copying files for kdepim-runtime? | 23:28 |
| ScottK-palm | Would someone please look at kdebase-runtime FTBFS on i386n | 23:29 |
| ScottK-palm | lex79: yes | 23:29 |
| lex79 | ok | 23:29 |
| Riddell | I put COPYING in SVN | 23:30 |
| Riddell | so don't worry about it | 23:30 |
| ScottK-palm | Someone accepted the source, so we are on our way. | 23:31 |
| Riddell | kdebase-runtime/4:4.2.95-0ubuntu2 is compiled on i386 | 23:32 |
| ScottK-palm | OK. I guess I was looking at the wrong one. | 23:33 |
| lex79 | kdeplasma-addons is ftbs in all arch | 23:33 |
| ScottK-palm | Launchpad on my phone is even more painful than normal. | 23:34 |
| ScottK-palm | lex79 it needs almost everything else built first. | 23:34 |
| lex79 | true, I see now the buildlog | 23:35 |
| ScottK-palm | Look at the dependency chart on the wiki. | 23:35 |
| lex79 | yeah | 23:36 |
| * ScottK-palm goes back to driving. | 23:37 | |
| lex79 | lol | 23:37 |
| Riddell | kdeadmin kdeedu kdeutils kdetoys waiting on kdebase-runtime | 23:37 |
| lex79 | ok | 23:37 |
| Riddell | (on karmic) | 23:38 |
| Riddell | kdepim waiting on kdepim-runtime to get published | 23:38 |
| Riddell | otherwise I think karmic is good | 23:38 |
| Riddell | how's jaunty? | 23:39 |
| lex79 | I almost finished | 23:39 |
| lex79 | Tomorrow afternoon I can copy to backports, before I want do a testbuild | 23:41 |
| lex79 | erm testinstall | 23:42 |
| lex79 | :) | 23:42 |
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