[00:00] Get Hot New Stuff is finding it's way into more places [00:01] * PapaChub is one of those people that doesn't understand the point of Plasmoid/Widget/Gadget/Doodads [00:02] ok that is a lot of information jeje thanks can you tell me how can i install it? [00:03] hey [00:03] fabricio_: as I said look athttp://kubuntu.org when the RC is out they post there first [00:03] thanks you are right :D [00:04] PapaChub: shared code and small functionality you can easily swap out [00:04] do u guys know about any program for automatic hibernation? [00:04] smth like smart shutdown for win [00:05] nothin? [00:06] n8w: try lmsensors [00:08] instructor_, well it has got nothin to do with scheduled hibernation..that soft is more related to temp monitorin... [00:08] ah right. Wait. Scheduled hibernation? what do you mean? [00:09] instructor_, like i wanna go into hibernation at given time, or after some time...sry if i havent made myself clear enough before... [00:09] n8w: oh you need cron [00:09] !cron [00:09] cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto - There is also a decent Howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm [00:10] instructor_, ye thx,ive heard about that before...but im kinda scared of makin al those scripts needed for it:) [00:10] instructor_, well ill take a look at it...thx:) [00:11] !info tuxonice [00:11] Package tuxonice does not exist in jaunty [00:12] http://www.tuxonice.net/ [00:24] here i go again...:) [00:24] ive installed cron/crontab/gcrontab but i cant find it anywhere...therefore i cant run it..any suggestions? [00:26] Tried to install the ksplice .deb and it gives me "Uptrack terms of service could not be presented". Anything I can do to get this to install? [00:27] please somebody tell me how can i download and install kde 4.3 beta 2 or rc .. i had try but i can't find nothing [00:27] :-( [00:37] n8w: just do alt-f2 and type gcrontab [00:37] phh: hmm thats the problem:)) nothin shows up [00:37] n8w: what says dpkg -L gcrontab ? [00:38] phh: it says a lot:)) [00:38] nevermind, got it. had a previous version installed that could not auto-remove [00:38] dpkg -L gcrontab |grep /usr/bin [00:39] phh: what does it do? [00:39] n8w: it will say you what's the program name of it [00:40] /usr/bin [00:40] /usr/bin/gcrontab [00:40] hum [00:40] typing gcrontab in alt-F2 should do the trick ... [00:40] phh: OMG,it works now..man i swear, ive tried the same,but it didnt work [00:41] phh: thx,im sry,but rly tried that before n it didnt work [00:41] no problem [01:34] Can I do a virus scan from the live cd and how? [01:38] bravel: do you want to scan your ubuntu partition from a live-cd or do you want to do a scan with a ubuntu live-cd? [01:38] Hi I ned some help with getting Kate to work as root with ver 9.04 any helpues would be great please :) [01:38] linuxguy: why do you want to run kate as root? [01:39] linuxguy: from the commandline try "kdesudo kate" [01:39] kaddi, so i can edit mt xorg.conf file.......i only know hpw to do that with kate from other distros [01:40] linuxguy: kdesudo kate should do it :) [01:40] kaddi a fat32 partition before I I import those files to a windows box [01:42] thaanks i was speklling kdesudo wrong............sil [01:42] bravel: you could do an onlinescan, I think kaspersky and panda offer online scans which will work with firefox, so you could run them from your browser, if you're looking for a one time scan. otherwise if you only have a couple of files to check you could upload them to virustotal.com or similar where they will be checked by multiple online scanners. [01:43] ok thaanks I can do that and its ok, thanks, I am using a 1gb nvidia 9600 card and i was hoping to be able to add a 1290x1024 res to the xorg.conf file but its almost empty [01:44] bravel: if you want to install a antivirus: clamav seems to be in the ubuntu reps. (but this has no on access scanner) avira and avast are two companies that provide anti virus for free for linux as well, I could look for the links if you are interesed [01:44] linuxguy: wait around, maybe someone more familiar with this kind of problem will help you, I can't help you with this :/ [01:46] linuxguy, you may want to try here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [01:46] kaddi interesting, I'll try clam, I had tried to install avast free linux as I've used it on my windows installs and have tried clam loaded from a usb stick, but the version I have crashes wine when I tried that to launch it [01:47] kaddi, i thought you left :P [01:47] Is it possible to view *.chm files with firefox/ an ubuntu-browser? [01:47] bravel, bitdefender also makes a free linux version of a/v. [01:47] ign0ramus: yeah, I thought so too.. but I must have forgotten to turn the PC of :p [01:48] kaddi, :) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3235 [01:48] of course, there had to be add-on for it. :D there's an add-on for everything :D [01:48] kaddi, "there's an add-on for that!" :P [01:53] ha, I'm a genius, I can now view chm files. ;) [02:03] does anyone know when Firefox 3.5 will be in the repos? [02:08] in a couple of days? [02:10] there is already a firefox-3.5 package from rc2, maybe if you install it, automatic updates will take care of informing you when it arrives? [02:10] :D [02:10] kaddi, yeah, i tried it, but it's very buggy. I have 3.5 final on my Windows partition, and it is awesome [02:11] kaddi, i'm hoping the new javascript rendering will make java applets usable in kubuntu :P [02:12] ign0ramus: you are aware that java != javascript, right? === deniz is now known as Guest16813 [02:13] dwidmann, yes. firefox 3.5 uses the Tracemonkey javascript rendering engine [02:35] has anyone had success getting a blackberry bold tethered wiht kubuntu? [02:45] Hi, it's ther any news in Kde 4.3 RC 1? [02:53] asu === yml_ is now known as yml [02:56] Any idea how I can find out which version of Guidance Power Manager is installed, and what version is the most recent? [02:57] I'm having serious issues with Guidance, with it shutting down my computer on a full battery regardless of my activity. [02:57] corigo2: do you know the name of the package? [02:58] corigo2: try apt-cache policy guidance-power-manager in the command line it should tell you the installed version and the latest version in the reps [03:01] kaddi: thanks, now how do I tell which version is distributed with Jaunty? [03:02] the latest version disponible in the reps is listed as candidate, if they are identical, you are up to date. [03:02] You could then maybe check out backports or experimental repos to find newer version, but I doubt they will be more stable ;) [03:04] I'm trying to determine if I need to go back to 8.04 or forward to 9.04... At least 8.04 worked for sleep and did auto-shutoff my computer for no reason. I already know 9.04 won't sleep and wake up without crashing X [03:04] (did not auto shut off) [03:05] I see that in Jaunty Guidance is no longer used, but the replacement isn't mentioned [03:06] corigo2: I would think that this heavily depends on your hardware and the compatibilty to jaunty. I have not really used it, so I can't tell...On my pc it says version 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu2 0 [03:07] corigo2: that is quite possible I moved back to guidance, because I wanted to use it, lol [03:12] anyone know how to FTP from windows computer to my linux pc? [03:24] anyone know how to FTP from windows computer to my linux pc? [03:27] !ssh | Daemon_ [03:27] Daemon_: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for client usage. Putty is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) [03:29] hey ign0ramus :) [03:29] hey BluesKaj [03:30] slow in here and crappy tv tonite ...think I might turn in early [03:31] hi all [03:31] BluesKaj, i'm with ya. i always stay in on tuesdays, and i am tired :) [03:31] hi hubar [03:31] Question, is there quanta plus for kde 4? [03:32] hubar, from jaunty repos: "quanta: Candidate: 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1" [03:33] hubar, also, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/quanta [03:33] National holiday here tomorrow (Canada Day - like your 4th of July) ...so everything is closed , lucky i hit the beer store already :) [03:33] BluesKaj, happy canuck day! :P [03:33] hmm, so there is no kde 4 quanta? [03:33] thx :) [03:35] hubar, i would imagine this version is kde4, as depends: kdelibs4c2a [03:35] hubar, scuse my ign0rance, but what's quanta ? [03:35] a html editor. [03:36] oh ok [03:36] BluesKaj, i see what you did there :) [03:36] :) [03:37] I need help with the following -- wifi, bluetooth, font [03:37] hubar, is that something like php ? [03:37] Does anyone know how to set up wifi? [03:38] the KDE tools don't work [03:38] which kubuntu version thechris ? [03:38] current version released with 9.04 [03:38] 32b, x86 [03:38] !wicd [03:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd [03:39] !wifi | thechris [03:39] thechris: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [03:39] !info-wicd [03:39] !info wicd [03:39] wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.9-2 (jaunty), package size 247 kB, installed size 1860 kB [03:39] BluesKaj, :) [03:40] ign0ramus, i knew someone would get it right :) [03:40] BluesKaj, anything for a 2007+ install? [03:40] 2007+? [03:40] BluesKaj, if you can keep a secret, i usually keep a separate private chat with ubottu open and test my factoids before posting them ;) [03:41] ahh, very cool ...good idea , ign0ramus [03:41] "It is assumed throughout this wiki that you have Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) installed. " [03:41] the wiki also explains how to use apt-get to install the program that isn't working [03:42] thechris, maybe you need to enable some of your sources [03:42] thechris, ok, lets start from the beginning... what version of kubuntu, and what kind of wireless card? [03:42] !repositories [03:42] The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [03:43] BluesKaj, i'm not using apt. no network connection. [03:43] ign0ramus, this is x86 kubuntu, 9.04. [03:43] the card is detected, and is an rt2600pci IIRC [03:44] the network manager is able to see my AP, and allows me to click "connect" [03:44] but it doesn't attempt to connect, and times out a bit later [03:44] ign0ramus, I'm going to leave this in your capable hands ...sacktime ..nite folks [03:44] thechris, do you have the connection encrypted (password)? [03:44] BluesKaj, gnite BluesKaj! :) [03:45] ign0ramus, while I do, it doesn't even attempt to connect -- the activity light on the AP would normally turn on [03:45] ign0ramus, also, the PW is set to the correct type and the PW has been verified on the AP. [03:45] thechris, i would try it without a password, just to see if it will connect. Network Manager is nototriously fickle with WPA in particular [03:45] *notoriously [03:46] does kubuntu use wpa_supplicant? [03:47] thechris, don't know about NM, but i know wicd uses wpa_supplicant [03:47] i don't really care about NM, i just want wifi to work. [03:48] thechris, then i would try installing wicd [03:48] ign0ramus, failed, no route to host [03:48] thechris, do you have a flash drive? [03:49] thechris, wicd .deb file is here: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/w/wicd/wicd_1.5.9-2_all.deb [03:49] I'll try wpa_supplicant out first. That tends to work. This flasy "works out of the box" stuff never does. [03:49] well, 08.10 did [03:50] thechris, you can always manually edit /etc/network/interfaces [03:53] wtf is with the cruft in /etc/wpa_supplicant/ [03:54] thechris, don't know - never had to mess with it [03:56] really, i had hoped the new version of kubuntu would be better. [03:57] I expect things to not work, and require some configuration in gentoo... [03:58] thechris, kubuntu jaunty is a re-write of a lot of things... i'd say it's akin to a first-gen model of a car. [03:58] thechris, for example, i have intel graphics, and the performance is *terrible* without some manual configs and workarounds... many of these issues are promised to be fixed in Karmic [03:59] ign0ramus, i essentially use *buntu as an install around 1-2 times per year. in the beginning, it wouldn't even install. [04:00] my impression is that its quirky -- things don't fail, but they don't work either [04:00] thechris, what did you have to do to get it to install? [04:00] thechris, kubuntu jaunty is definitely 'quirky' [04:01] ign0ramus, that was a few years back that *buntu wouldn't even install [04:01] thechris, ah, i gotcha [04:01] I had tried ubuntu 8.10 and within a day had found something like 13 bugs. [04:02] some of which already had bug reports. [04:02] thechris, that's the nature of a linux distro [04:03] thechris, the difference is that in linux, you can report the bug to the person or team developing it, and it gets fixed [04:03] (usually) [04:03] ign0ramus, well, a lot of the bugs were just "something is odd, no error messages" === steven is now known as cryshalsing [04:04] thechris, there's almost always a way to backtrack a bug; just sometimes not user-friendly or even intuitive [04:06] well this is just a big failure "disconnect event removing keys" [04:10] I've actually been quite disappointed with linux as of late === steven is now known as Supreme_Overlord [04:10] mainly because of *buntu, gentoo, RH, Gnome, and KDE [04:10] maby a little xorg as well. [04:11] Oh, and OOo. [04:30] How can i change the image of an icon on my desktop? [04:49] anybody using ardour? [05:04] !myth [05:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about myth [05:08] !mythtv [05:08] mythtv is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV - For discussion and specific support, try #ubuntu-mythtv === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [06:02] holaa [06:02] Hi [06:02] hello? [06:03] alguien de mexico? [06:03] somebody from mexico? [06:06] hii [06:06] huu [06:16] Hello, I recently updated my kubuntu to kde 4.3 beta 2 from the jaunty backports ppa and right after restart, plasma has crashed. I see a black screen after login takin me nowhere. Here is the backtrace - http://paste.ubuntu.com/207318/ [06:28] did you do upgrade or dist-upgrade? [06:30] i had plasma crash on 4.3b2 upgrade a while back on "apt-get upgrade" [06:31] when I did "apt-get dist-upgrade" ... i got it to work [06:32] alakhia: I did just an upgrade [06:33] holaa [06:33] HI [06:37] hello === ephraim is now known as doom777 [06:38] did anyone ever have a problem with Amarok not playing streams? [06:38] rephrase question -- is anyone here? [06:39] doom777: no we arent here :P [06:39] maybe everyone was sleeping [06:39] doom777: I havent, but then again I havent tried recently... [06:39] i can get it playing regular music, but no streams whatsoever [06:40] sigh, linux is hard. [06:40] My first day. [06:40] everything is so different === raghu is now known as raghu_ [06:58] ok [08:07] how do I install nvidia-drivers on 9.04 [09:08] i did: "apt-get install nvidia-glx-180" and that worked [09:12] Is there a gui for ps2pdf? [09:17] hello [09:17] !list [09:17] This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [09:17] !bot [09:17] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [09:19] net ? [09:20] do you need bot chanel ? [09:20] hi [09:20] i'm not speak english [09:20] i'm italian === saz__ is now known as _saz_ [09:25] have anyone tested login in kdm with smartcard? [09:25] any manual? [09:27] aitor: actually, you mean an encryption smartcard? [09:28] yes [09:29] aitor: there are a few instructions available on the fsfe wiki IIRC [09:29] let me get that for you [09:29] Thanks a lot [09:30] I'd like to login in my kubuntu with university's smartcard and share this with all [09:31] aitor: this is the start page and there are links to various FAQs and HowTos: http://wiki.fsfe.org/Crypto_Card?action=show&redirect=Card [09:31] Thaks!! [09:31] you are welcome, aitor :) [09:36] aitor: this can be of help, too: http://www.opensc-project.org/opensc/ [09:37] great [09:44] <[ITA]mitticoooo> hi can someone link me a live CD version of Kubuntu? thx [09:45] http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu have a look here, links to all available versions are on it [09:46] <[ITA]mitticoooo> thx I already saw it, but i thought was installer version, not live cd :( [09:48] kubuntu is installed from a live-cd. :) You download the iso, start the live-cd. If you like what you see, there is an icon on the desktop of your live-cd environnement to install kubuntu to your pc [09:48] [ITA]mitticoooo: its the live cd, if you want alternate then check the box at the bottom of the download part. but the default is live cd === kaddi__ is now known as kaddi [09:49] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok perfect [09:50] <[ITA]mitticoooo> and will it recognize wifi notebook card? [09:50] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i suppose not :( [09:51] <[ITA]mitticoooo> and another question: what happens if i use the standad version link instead of the 64bit processor, and i have a 64bit processor? [09:52] <[ITA]mitticoooo> that is i don't know if the notebook is a 64bit or not [09:56] you should be fine with a 32bit version, even if your notebook has a 64bit processor. Kubuntu now recognizes a lot of wifi cards automatically, so maye you're lucky and everything will work fine :) [09:57] <[ITA]mitticoooo> perfect [09:57] <[ITA]mitticoooo> so even without installing kubuntu [09:57] <[ITA]mitticoooo> only with liveCD [09:57] yes [09:59] <[ITA]mitticoooo> perfect i will try, because my sister windows vista crasched and he wanted to surf in internet in the meanwhile [09:59] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i thought of this live cd possibility === eugen_ is now known as Guest28650 === drdanz is now known as danz === danz is now known as drdanz [10:51] <[ITA]mitticoooo> kaddi: I have launched the live CD kubuntu 9.04 but I am not able to connect to wifi [10:51] <[ITA]mitticoooo> I can't find the tray incon with wireless connection [10:52] <[ITA]mitticoooo> But i see from network settings, that wifi card is recognize because i can make a scan of wireless connection and select the mine [10:52] [ITA]mitticoooo: Maybe you need to start it separately. I don't know the live-cd that well... Go to start->programs->internet and start knetworkmanager then you should get a tray icon for internet connection [10:53] [ITA]mitticoooo: what happens when you select your wifi? [10:53] Is it encoded? If so what protocol? WEP? WPA? WPA2? [10:53] <[ITA]mitticoooo> nothing simply it store the information [10:53] <[ITA]mitticoooo> I try knetworkmanager [10:57] <[ITA]mitticoooo> kaddi: nothing related with knetwormanager :( [10:57] <[ITA]mitticoooo> other hints? [10:58] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes kaddi the wifi is encoded WPA [10:58] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but there is "automatically connect" after i scanned for wifi connection and put my wifi [10:59] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i figured pops out a window for inserting the password when I opened a browser, but not happens [11:00] [ITA]mitticoooo: can you try typing knetworkmanager into your account? (But I'm really not familiar with the live-cd and I'm not familiar with knetworkmanager either) [11:01] <[ITA]mitticoooo> what means "into your account"? I tryed searching manually going throw the internet application, or by inserting knetw.... in the search bar [11:01] [ITA]mitticoooo: sorry lapse of mind.. I meant "type into your terminal" [11:01] <[ITA]mitticoooo> but seems there is nothing related with wifi [11:02] <[ITA]mitticoooo> so i open a shell and type knetwormanager? [11:02] <[ITA]mitticoooo> sry I am not practical [11:03] yep try this [11:04] [ITA]mitticoooo: apparently knetworkmanager is no longer included in jaunty live-cd (sorry), it was replace by the networkmanager-plasma-applet. [11:05] maybe wicd? [11:05] it's a live-cd don't now if you can install things? (I'm really not familiar with live-cds) [11:06] [ITA]mitticoooo: do a right click on your desktop, select add widget and see if you find a networkt applet in the list. There should be. :) [11:06] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok i try [11:11] <[ITA]mitticoooo> kaddi: there is a network applet but doesn't play :( [11:13] [ITA]mitticoooo: I'm sorry I can't really help you then. As Bou suggested wicd is a networkmanager which works pretty well for most jaunty users. But it is not included on the live-cd, you would have to install and I don't if this is possible with a live-cd [11:13] maybe someone else will offer some advice when he reads your question [11:15] <[ITA]mitticoooo> ok thank very much I try typing question for who knows or have tryed live CD [11:16] <[ITA]mitticoooo> Who knows how to make play a wifi connection on kubuntu liveCD? I can't find "tray incon" but in network manegar I can sucessfully make a scan of wifi network and put the mine [11:16] hi guys, when should we expect firefox 3,5 be released in ubuntu repos? [11:21] Assurbanipal: I would expect in a couple of days [11:21] 'cause we can't wait!!! === xp is now known as rvt [11:42] <[ITA]mitticoooo> kaddi: solved! [11:42] ah great, how did you do it? :) [11:43] <[ITA]mitticoooo> I gave a wire to my sister for connection, but after some minutes she told me the tray icon for wifi network appeared near the clock [11:44] nice. :D [11:44] <[ITA]mitticoooo> i don't kno why it appeard by itself [11:45] <[ITA]mitticoooo> then was a joke to insert the password and connect [11:45] me neither, but I wouldn't ask to many questions as long as it works ;) [11:46] <[ITA]mitticoooo> yes but i was wondering if it will appear again at the next boot [11:52] only one way to find out: reboot. ;) === desudesudesu is now known as desu [12:03] can someone enlighten me? why when I go to tty 1 - 6 I keep seeing "cannot examine encrypted directory" after I log in? I dont remember ever trying to add encryption manually and I could almost swear when asked in the installer, I said no... whats happening? === desudesudesu is now known as desu [12:28] looks like a deserted place [12:28] :p [12:28] is there a way to download all the emails from a imap account in kmail under kubuntu 904, leaving a copy on the server? [12:29] ct529: not totally sure, but if you set it as "disconnected imap", wouldnt that do it? [12:30] Unksi: well, it is already set, I was wondering whether is possible from an existing account .... :) [12:30] no idea about that.. there might be an option somewhere in the settings though [12:59] imho, imap is designed to keep messages on the server anyway [12:59] in comparison to POP [13:00] ch90045: yes, it is just a one off .... === desudesudesu is now known as desu [13:01] ? === desu is now known as jburd5 [13:04] the talking calendar needs kttsd, but kttsds dbus files are only found in the kdelibs-dev package === jburd5 is now known as desu [13:05] should the dev package really be required, it does pull in all sorts of other -devs, even x11 devs? [13:06] well, it's really the kspeech dbus stuff [13:15] Peter__: please do not send unrequested PM [13:15] if you need help, ask in here [13:19] hi any one can help me [13:20] !ask | raviraj [13:20] raviraj: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [13:20] hi [13:22] i want 2 install virtual box [13:22] install virtualbox-ose from adept/kpackagekit [13:23] be sure to add yourself to vboxusers group [13:26] i tried 2 install but it was showing status "wrong architecture" [13:27] which version of kubuntu are you using? [13:27] 8.04 hardy [13:27] 64 bit [13:27] ok, so that should work then [13:28] you could try going to virtualbox.org and installing from there [13:30] How can i disable the feature where when I hover over a folder on my desktop it brins up a preview window with the folders contents in it? [13:31] actually i want 2 install watir but i have problem is that i have 64 bits os , and there is no version of jsssh for 64 bit [13:43] How can i disable the feature where when I hover over a folder on my desktop it brins up a preview window with the folders contents in it? === max__ is now known as fg57xfd [13:46] !kde [13:46] KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4 === fernando is now known as Guest54469 [13:48] hola [13:49] !es | jdrbca [13:49] jdrbca: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [13:51] fg57xfd: if it is the folderview widget, go to the settings and remove "show Previews" in the Display section [13:52] Hiyas [13:53] fg57xfd: but then it will show you the content of the folder/file [13:53] Mamarok: Ok, right clicked, and that is it. Do I have to restart for these setting to take effect? [13:54] fg57xfd: normally not, but I just tried and it doesn't work without apparently [13:55] Ok, going to try to restart now. [14:00] Mamarok: That wasn't it, I just restarted and It still does it. === awidegreen__ is now known as awidegreen [14:08] fg56xfd: well, no idea then, it's probably a bug with that widget you should report it to http://bugs.kde.org [14:12] Mamarok: Alright, thanks anyway! [14:16] grrr.. [14:16] hi [14:16] !grup [14:16] Sorry, I don't know anything about grup [14:16] !grub [14:16] GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [14:16] noaXess: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:17] sorry.. my connection was bad [14:17] my mistake [14:17] but can anybody help? [14:20] noaXess: with what? :) [14:21] ok.. :) one more time, i hace to hd's one on sata1 the other on sata2, every sunday i make a clone with dd... if i boot the system, it's starts sometimes fomr sata2, but should boot from sata1.. in bios the boot order is sata1, sata2.. grub shoes me the menu.lst entries fomr hd on sata1 but boots root from hd on sata2.. [14:22] how can i configur grub, so that it allways boot's from hd on sata1? [14:22] the brub kernel line is: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-kernel-version root=UUIS=id-of-hd [14:23] the uuid of both hd's are identicaly, caus i clone it every sunday [14:26] ct529: any idea, tip? [14:28] noaXess: well, change the way the lines are written in the menu.lst .... it should be possible to use the disk address instead of the id [14:28] grub will allways be loaded from the right hd, but then it's boots from the wrong, second hd.. [14:29] ct529: disk address? /dev/sda? [14:33] noaXess: there is a similar way to express it in grub .... I actually do not remember but it is in the grub documentation [14:33] groot? [14:33] noaXess: what? [14:34] ct529: in menu.lst there is a groot option? [14:34] a defaukt option [14:34] I do not know [14:36] grub2 almost broke my setup , it doesn't see X , so I had recert back to legacy-grub and the previous linux-kernel -image [14:36] revert [14:36] grub2 isn't ready for prime time in my experience [14:38] Most of linux probably falls in that category [14:39] don't even start on that track, kids [14:39] Just saying :) [14:40] Daskreech: yes, you are right .... not stable and supported like vista ..... [14:41] ct529: I never said anything else was ready for primetime either [14:41] !ot | all [14:41] all: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [14:41] (;) [14:41] most computer experiences are a mess. I like Linux cause you have places like this [14:42] Daskreech: please... [14:42] Support for nearly any problem you face is great [14:44] noaXess: did you find the solution? [14:49] Can someone tell me the features that KDE has for the blind? [14:49] I've noticed a lot of places have a Speak icon [14:49] mostly greyed out [14:50] Daskreech: text-to-speech is there, when you have kttsd and related stuff installed [14:50] !info kdeaccessibility [14:50] kdeaccessibility (source: kdeaccessibility): accessibility packages from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 3 kB, installed size 36 kB [14:52] ok great. It's intended to be used by those who are completely blind? [14:52] I can't test it now since the new kernel broke my sound [14:53] Daskreech: well, depends, one can make it to speak everything happening on irc, for example [14:53] Daskreech, my defintion of primetime in this case is that the bootloader boots successfully into the OS you choose in the grub menu :) [14:53] And actions like the menu popping up and browsing through the applications menu? [14:54] Daskreech: sure, all notifications can be done [14:54] BluesKaj: Ha ha ok it probably passes that test most of the time [14:55] Tm_T: Hmm Ok I'm doing some work for an Organization that teaches the deaf and they employ blind people on the staff. They are looking at Linux rollouts system wide so I'm trying to ascertain how well it would work in an environment with both the blind and deaf [14:56] Daskreech: I believe those can be achieved, but might need some insight on which tools work where === aleksio is now known as aleksio_ === aleksio_ is now known as aleksio [15:00] Hey, how can i share network between 2 kubuntu 8.10 pc's with just one cat cable? [15:01] Is there a subversion 1.6 backport available for hardy LTS? [15:01] TaMonKein: does that one cable include the connection to real world? [15:01] TaMonKein: Wireless? :) [15:01] Tm_T i have real internet connected to another port on the pc [15:01] BluesKaj: does it boot?? I have painted my kde 4.2 on the screen .... [15:01] !networking [15:01] Sorry, I don't know anything about networking [15:01] !network [15:01] Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [15:02] not that, bah [15:02] Ah, well.. Gotta go, have to make this work later. :) Thanks anyway- [15:02] !ics > TaMonKein [15:02] TaMonKein, please see my private message [15:02] TaMonKein: Wait you have two cables? [15:02] one connected currently and another one to connect the two? [15:05] TaMonKein: sorry, could you describe your setup? === matteo_ is now known as RedZone === RedZone is now known as matteo === viable-tadesse is now known as ethiotech [15:30] when will 4.3 beta one be available? [15:31] you mean RC1 ? [15:31] white_pelican: beta2 is already available, check the topic of this channel [15:31] RC1 is coming when ready and so forth (: [15:31] just said arriving, didn't indicate the time :) [15:32] Tm_T :) [15:32] RC1 was released today by KDE. Probably take at least a day or two for Kubuntu packages [15:32] best source to know when it's available and where it's available will be in kubuntu.org website [15:32] true [15:32] white_as allways :) [15:32] Dragnslcr: err, not true [15:32] Depends a lot on how busy the Kubuntu packagers are [15:33] Which part isn't true? [15:33] Dragnslcr: in best cases, when KDE releases it, Kubuntu can release it too at the same time, as packaging can begin before release [15:34] Yeah, that's possible, but I figured I'd pad the time a bit [15:34] heh, actually Kubuntu has history of releases done ~same time with KDE [15:34] but that's past [15:34] Heh, yeah [15:35] I don't want to get anyone's hopes up too high [15:35]