[01:56] <asac> fta: how can the version of a daily be 1.9.1.1~hg20090629r26036+nobinonly-0ubuntu2~umd1 ?
[01:57] <asac> e.g. ubuntu2 ?
[01:57] <asac> shouldnt that be ubuntu1~umd1 ?
[01:57] <asac> or was that a second upload because of a build failure?
[02:00] <fta> bug
[02:00] <asac> ok jaunty piece are in -security PPA fwiw. tomorrow things are probably built
[02:00] <fta> small bug in my bot
[02:01] <asac> cool
[02:01] <fta> harmless and difficult to catch, i'll try to fix that another time
[02:01] <asac> oh i386 build will start in 1h ;)
[02:02] <asac> amd64  in 5 hours
[02:02] <asac> yeah. corner casish
[02:03] <fta> cprov is following my branch
[02:03] <fta> he asked me to start coding in python instead of perl ;)
[02:03] <asac> lol
[02:06] <fta> i think i'll buy a HP Photosmart C6380, i'm sick of waiting
[02:07] <micahg> fta where are you located?
[02:07] <fta> micahg, paris. why?
[02:07] <micahg> oh
[02:07] <micahg> I have a couple of refurb Photosmart 6280s
[02:08] <asac> hmm /build/buildd/gtk-vnc-0.3.8/./plugin/npshell.c:84:19: error: npupp.h: No such file or directory
[02:08] <asac> was that removed from xul 1.9 to 1.9.1?
[02:09] <fta> firefox-3.5-3.5~rc2+build1+nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/embedding/browser/activex/src/pluginhostctrl/pluginsdk_include/npupp.h
[02:09] <fta> xulrunner-1.9.1-1.9.1~rc2+build1+nobinonly/build-tree/mozilla/embedding/browser/activex/src/pluginhostctrl/pluginsdk_include/npupp.h
[02:09] <fta> activex; lol
[02:10] <fta> micahg: running fine with ubuntu?
[02:10] <fta> micahg, i'm interested by the scanner part, i guess the printer is fine out of the box
[02:10] <micahg> haven't tried them
[02:10] <micahg> they're to sell
[02:10] <fta> oh
[02:11] <micahg> I use an epson cx5000
[02:11] <micahg> it's great with xsane
[02:12] <fta> well, i hope the hp is fine too
[02:12] <fta> asac, any success with my bot?
[02:18] <asac> mixed feeling on that one.
[02:18] <asac> i will check tomorrow where i stand
[02:18] <asac> ran into other NM troubles on trunk i had to fix first
[02:19] <fta> file bugs, or something ;)
[02:19] <fta> i guess i should package it
[02:21] <asac> sparc fails in nanojit http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28574493/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-sparc.xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[02:21] <fta> yep
[02:21] <asac> i remember that bug
[02:21] <asac> armin76 pointed me to it i think ... sync_instruction_memory
[02:22] <fta> same http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28566619/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-sparc.xulrunner-1.9.1_1.9.1%2Bnobinonly-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[02:22] <fta> i pointed it to armin76 ~ rc1
[02:22] <asac> ah ok
[02:22] <asac> do you have the bug  id?
[02:23] <asac> mozilla bug 486584
[03:13] <sattam> hi  , we have arabic issue in the Firfox 3.5 : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499538 , ubuntu going to patch it  ?
[03:19] <micahg> Can you please file a bug in Launchpad?
[03:19] <micahg> ubuntu-bug firefox-3.5
[03:19] <micahg> and note the mozilla bug #
[03:20] <sattam> micahg: sure ,
[03:20] <reed> Ubuntu is not going to pull in random patches like that
[03:20] <micahg> sattam: do you know if it's fixed in the release of FF.5
[03:20] <reed> Ubuntu will get the patch when Firefox gets it for 3.5.1
[03:21] <micahg> yes
[03:21] <micahg> reed: is it not worth it for him to file in LP?
[03:21] <reed> I don't see a point... there's already a reviewed patch, and it's already blocking 3.5.1
[03:21] <reed> filing it in LP won't change the fact that a fix won't be available until 3.5.1
[03:22] <micahg> true
[03:22] <micahg> but if someone else has the issue they'll see it
[03:22] <sattam> i  want you to apply these patch in the current release
[03:22] <micahg> sattam: as reed said, that won't happen until 3.5.1 is released
[03:22] <sattam> micahg: OK ,
[05:26] <bbigras> I just installed Firefox 3.5 from the fresh built of the Ubuntu Mozilla Security Team. Is it normal that the package depend on 3.0 and still call himself Shiretoko?
[05:28] <bbigras> fresh build*
[07:37] <micahg> pign asac, fta, re bug 383484
[07:47] <micahg> asac: fta: if the search plugins are the same for FF3.5 and FF3 I would suggest breaking them out into a separate package
[09:49] <asac_> hi
[09:49] <micahg> hi asac
[09:49] <micahg> did you see the msg I left you?
[09:49] <asac_> micahg: 08:47 < micahg> asac: fta: if the search plugins are the same for FF3.5 and FF3 I would suggest breaking them out into a separate package
[09:49] <asac_> that one?
[09:49] <micahg> yeah, and the others
[09:49] <micahg> it seems like the plugins are missing
[09:50] <micahg> bug 383484
[09:50] <asac_> hmm
[09:50] <micahg> at least in the versions that were in the repos before
[09:51] <asac_> ah yeah
[09:53] <asac> i will think about it
[09:54] <asac> using a separate package might work
[09:54] <asac> but not sure we want to introduce a separate source
[09:54] <asac> like "firefox-common" ;)
[09:55] <micahg> yeah, well, you can have the latest FF generate it
[09:55] <micahg> and have the older one get free updates :)
[09:56] <micahg> although, you'll run into a problem if there's a security flaw in teh common elements
[09:57] <micahg> than you have bump the later one for no reason
[09:59] <asac> i am not sure yet
[10:55] <fta> asac, http://identi.ca/notice/5926437
[10:56] <fta> asac, http://identi.ca/notice/5923924
[10:56] <BUGabundo> eheh
[10:56] <BUGabundo> fta: reporting here?
[10:57] <BUGabundo> fta: ppl shouldn't be using your PPA! I told then that!!
[10:59] <asac> dailies shouldnt get official branding anyway ;)
[11:00] <bbigras> the one from Ubuntu Mozilla Security Team is branded as Shiretoko too
[11:00] <BUGabundo> oh?
[11:03] <asac> bbigras: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-firefox-3.5
[11:04] <asac> Firefox - PPA - open up maxVersion in application.ini and package dependencies: DONE
[11:04] <asac> fta: so fennec 1.0 luckily seems to be  built against 1.9.1
[11:05] <asac> nice
[11:05] <asac> already thought we might need to remove it from archive completely
[11:05] <asac> well. at least the version you uploaded once
[11:06] <fta> the new one currently needs 1.9.2
[11:06] <fta> probably fixable
[11:07] <bbigras> asac: will the official branding be only for karmic? or if also for jaunty will it be on the security ppa or only when it get in universe?
[11:07] <asac> yeah. thats what i thought
[11:07] <fta> it has to do with l10n
[11:07] <asac> bbigras: first in karmic. we for released ubuntu versions we usually need to wait until we have done the trademark review
[11:08] <asac> fta: yeah now i remember. but if its because there are different strings now in trunk that fennec uses, its probably hard
[11:09] <bbigras> asac: ok thanks and good work
[11:23] <fta> always to "good work" for asac, and the bugs to me :P
[11:23] <fta> -to+the
[11:25] <asac> lol
[11:26] <asac> bbigras: thank fta who prepared the 3.5 update ;)
[11:26] <BUGabundo> ~:| /me is confused
[11:27] <bbigras> fta: thank you too :)
[11:28] <BUGabundo> fta: aahahahh love the dent!
[11:33] <asac> transition ppa is full :-P
[11:37] <asac> fta: is the b1 tarball for fennec broken?
[11:37] <asac> i see that its still open in changelog
[11:39] <asac> actually ... where is the orig?
[11:39] <asac> fta: oh
[11:39] <asac> tar: /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.1.1pre/sdk/build-system.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[11:39] <asac>  ls -l /usr/lib/xulrunner-devel-1.9.1/
[11:39] <asac> bin             idl/            include/        lib/            sdk/            xpcom-config.h
[11:40] <asac> hmm strange
[11:40] <asac> why my -dev still
[11:40] <asac> ii  xulrunner-1.9.1-dev                 1.9.1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1     XUL + XPCOM development files
[11:40] <asac> oh i forced it ;)
[11:40] <asac> hehe
[11:40] <asac> so unping
[11:56] <asac> fta: whats the best way to test if a file exists in make?
[11:57] <asac> ifneq (,$(wildcard ...))
[11:57] <asac> sounds complicated ;)
[12:01] <BUGabundo> asac: pitty will have to change *buntu-desktop seed too, right?
[12:09] <asac> yeah
[12:09] <asac> all CD rdepends needs to be ported for that
[12:11] <BUGabundo> don't you forget about that asac ehe
[12:23] <asac> fta: so now fennec builds here, and it works, except that the browser window itself is broken
[12:23] <asac> e.g. doesnt render at all
[12:39] <asac> fta: fennec get-orig-source got 1.0~b2+hg20090630r611 for me
[12:39] <asac> isnt that wrong?
[12:39] <asac> e.g. shouldnt that be b2~hg ?
[12:53] <ripps> asac: that depends, was the source from a commit after or before beta2 was released?
[12:53]  * BUGabundo $ mv /dev/arse /media/kitchen; do eat; done; mv /dev/arse /tmp/newjob;
[12:54] <asac> ripps: before ;)
[12:55] <asac> i am sure its a bug ;)
[12:56] <ripps> beta2 hasn't been released yet, than that a bug, but since reverting would require an epoch so that things would install correctly, might as well just leave it alone and wait until the official beta2 comes out
[12:57] <asac> ripps: we havent done any upload with b2
[12:57] <asac> not even b1
[12:58] <ripps> still, it's kind of a hassle to fix it, is it really essential to fix the version number?
[12:58] <asac> we need at least get a plan how to unbreak this situation
[12:58] <asac> yes
[12:58] <asac> well
[12:58] <asac> if they release b2 it should have higher version than a pre snapshot
[12:59] <ripps> you need to replace with a version value higher than b2, but still work when beta2 comes out.... all I know is that it would probobly require an epcoh
[12:59] <asac> for xulrunner and stuff we are kind of lucky because we get the +nobinonly for free
[12:59] <asac> ripps: no it doesnt
[12:59] <asac> fix it in mozclient for fennec
[12:59] <asac> and all is fine
[12:59] <asac> we havent uploaded anything with ~b2
[12:59] <asac> so its fixable
[13:00] <ripps> If nobodies installed it yet, than it should be pretty easy to fix
[13:00] <asac> its a bit of a pain for the existing dailies ... just want to know whats the plan to get out of this situation is ;)
[13:00] <asac> ripps: then fix it ;)
[13:01] <ripps> I don't use fennec, nor do I know anything of it's packaging... :\
[13:01] <asac> ripps: its probably a problem in mozclient
[13:01] <asac> in general
[13:01] <asac> so it affects all packages that use it to produce tarballs
[13:01] <asac> so if you say ./debian/rules get-orig-source in xulrunner-1.9 you probably get a wrong version
[13:02] <asac> anyway. lets wait if fta has any plan yet
[13:02] <asac> ;)
[13:02] <asac> doesnt matter anyway, because fennec seems to be not supporting 1.9.1
[13:58] <vadi2> Hi. I installed ff 3.5 final, and the fonts in it are broken again - unlike my gnome preferences, it's the default huge and fuzzy letters. How can this be fixed?
[13:59] <fta2> asac, i think i have uncommitted changes in my fennec branch
[13:59] <asac> fta2: now its gone ;)
[13:59] <asac> if that was something to keep give it to me i can commit it on top if you dont want to rebase ;)
[13:59] <fta2> asac, and the "+" was expected, upstream bumps the version at the last minute, unlike ff
[14:00] <asac> fta2: what do you mean by "last minute"?
[14:00] <asac> they are not yet at b2 ... but we have b2+hg
[14:00] <fta2> they are
[14:00] <asac> there is no tag
[14:01] <asac> as long as there is no tag we are probably at b2~hg
[14:01] <asac> and after b2 tag we are at b2+hg
[14:01] <fta2> Topic for #mobile is: Fennec Project || Fennec Beta 2 is out! http://blog.pavlov.net/2009/06/26/new-fennec-releases/
[14:01] <asac> err
[14:03] <fta2> http://hg.mozilla.org/mobile-browser/rev/87ef0915a1d6
[14:03] <fta2> hence the +
[14:04] <asac> ok ;)
[14:07] <fta2> mozilla 498098
[14:09] <asac_> bzr bd really breaks tarballs
[14:09] <asac_> what a mess
[14:16] <asac> so b2 is more broken than b1 ;)
[14:19] <asac_> ok dropping ball on fennec for now. seems we need some low-level gecko fixes in order to get it work with 1.9.1 branch - to be continued another day
[14:19] <asac_> its probably the canvas browser that is a bit busted from what i see
[14:21] <asac_> vadi2: so your complain is that ffox does not honour the gnome settings?
[14:22] <vadi2> asac_: yes, my font hinting preference
[14:22] <vadi2> lemme show you
[14:22] <asac_> can you confirm that its just the hinting?
[14:22] <asac_> e.g. it uses slight but you want full?
[14:22] <vadi2> no it is on full and I want slight
[14:23] <vadi2> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/17536/screenshot_100_052__7Ma2Jc.png
[14:23] <asac> vadi2: what do you get here: ls -l /etc/fonts/conf.d/*hint*
[14:23] <vadi2> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/126106/
[14:25] <asac> vadi2: try sudo rm /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-hinting-full.conf
[14:25] <asac> err
[14:25] <asac> vadi2: try sudo rm /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-hinting-slight.conf
[14:25] <asac> and
[14:25] <asac> sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/*hint*full.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/
[14:26] <vadi2> sorry, I just looked in gnome prefs
[14:26] <vadi2> ff is using the "slight" one
[14:26] <vadi2> and I'd like full :x
[14:26] <asac> hehe
[14:26] <asac> yeah
[14:27] <vadi2> will that do it still?
[14:27] <asac> so its bug 379761
[14:30] <vadi2> asac thanks, that worked
[14:30] <vadi2> was 3.5 supposed to replace 3.0? it still has the blue logo
[14:32] <asac> vadi2: no. we will replace it as soon as we have ported all rdepends that are on CD
[14:32] <asac> hopefully soonish ;)
[14:32] <vadi2> ok
[14:32] <vadi2> thanks for your help
[14:47] <asac_> damn i forgot to swithc maintainer back to me for icedove
[16:53] <synta10> hello everyone
[16:55] <synta10> anyone alive here?
[17:03] <muszek> hi... 3.5 died twice on me today.  I'm running the version from sucurity updates repo.  Is there anything I could do to help tracking a bug?  It didn't happen in 3.0.  The window just disappears.
[17:04] <muszek> last time it happen I was just pressing a regular link (plain html)
[17:04] <Mook_sb> I dunno anything at all here, but do you have stacks or other forms of error output?
[17:05] <muszek> Mook_sb: nope, but if I was given some directions, I can have something next time it happens.
[17:05]  * Mook_sb waits for somebody who actually uses ubuntu - sorry, I was just hanging out here because I'm interested :p
[17:06] <muszek> I am using Ubuntu :)
[17:10] <synta10> muszek: have you tried to start out w/ the fresh profile?
[17:12] <muszek> synta10: no, I haven't
[17:13] <muszek> synta10: I'll do that and will come back if it happens again
[17:14] <asac> synta10: ?
[17:14] <synta10> asac: what's up?
[17:14] <asac> you asked if anyone is alive ;)
[17:15] <asac> muszek: do you have extensions installed/enabled?
[17:15] <synta10> asac: okay, I admit I did; I've recommended muszek to start w/ new profile
[17:15] <muszek> asac: yes.  quite a few installed, some automatically disabled after I ran 3.5
[17:16] <asac> muszek: so did this go away with fresh profile?
[17:16] <synta10> you can also try to disable all the extensions to see if it still happens
[17:17] <muszek> enabled: Adblock Plus, DownThemAll, Firebug, Firecookie, Firefinder for Firebug, MeasureIt, PermaTabs Mod, Remember The Milk for Gmail, SenSEO, SEO For Firefox, Tree Style Tab, Web Developer
[17:17] <muszek> asac: I'll do that shortly and come back here if it crashes again
[17:18] <muszek> PermaTabs Mod is not enabled, my bad
[17:18] <asac> ok
[17:21] <fta2> asac, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790  :(
[17:23] <asac> whats the essence there? skype broken?
[17:24] <fta2> no, a tool to grab 32bit files
[17:25] <asac> why does that exist?
[17:25] <asac> because we dont ship enough stuff in ia32-libs?
[17:25] <fta2> because ia32-libs is obviously crap
[17:27] <asac> but can any out-of-distro tool be better?
[17:28] <asac> what does it do?
[17:28] <asac> install stuff in /usr/lib32 ?
[17:31] <fta2> maybe automatically create & maintain a custom deb, instead of putting files directly in the filesystem
[17:31] <fta2> files that cannot easily be removed
[17:32] <asac> yes
[17:32] <fta2> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=9643
[17:32] <asac> does it do that?
[17:32] <fta2> same here
[17:39] <synta10> are there any estimations when the Fx 3.5 final will be pushed to official Jaunty repos?
[17:46] <synta10> well, how it is about localization of Firefox in Mozilla Security repo?
[17:47] <synta10> anyone?
[17:47] <asac> synta10: we give it 2 days baking time in ppa
[17:47] <asac> so tomorrow night
[17:48] <synta10> asac: thanks; where it will be then? in jaunty-proposed?
[17:49] <asac> jaunty-security
[17:49] <asac> and -updates
[17:49] <asac> synta10: install it from ppa now
[17:49] <asac> the more testers there are the more confident i am about the quality and the sooner i feel brave enough to get it rolled ;)
[17:50] <synta10> asac: I am running it already, it's still Shiretoko and I am missing Czech locale; but overally it looks fine
[17:53] <asac> synta10: we wont get translations until we make it default
[17:53] <asac> unlikely that we get translations for jaunty
[17:54] <asac> i will think about it
[17:54] <asac> maybe we can do something somehow
[17:54] <synta10> well, maybe backporting the Karmic version?
[17:54] <asac> translations are done differently
[17:55] <asac> we ship them in the  big langpacks
[17:55] <synta10> ah, yes
[17:56] <synta10> I see that langpacks are in /usr/lib/firefox-addons/extensions
[17:59] <synta10> separately installed localization extension (xpi) works fine, but it's not quite user friendly solution
[18:01] <synta10> I guess there could be separate firefox-locale-* package in repos, like w/ thunderbird
[18:02] <asac> yes you can use upstream .xpis
[18:02] <asac> that should work
[18:02] <asac> dont konw a differnt solution right now
[18:03] <asac> maybe indeed a tweaked backport somehow at some point
[18:04] <synta10> I guess Fx 3.0 stays as default in Jaunty, doesn't it?
[18:04] <asac> yes
[18:09] <synta10> ok, and one more thing - will the final version in Ubuntu repos get the new icon or it will still use the Shiretoko's?
[18:25] <synta10> nevermind, thank you asac for your answers!
[20:31] <miik> dude put so firefox-3.5 come on update
[20:32] <miik> asac, hello you!!
[20:32] <miik> i know its you who is the boy who make firefox in ubuntu
[20:32] <miik> you are the boss guy
[20:32] <miik> look i have karmic, and you need to put so 3.5 come in update
[20:33] <miik> also i need songbird in repo
[20:33] <Pici> miik: I suppose I was wrong to assume that you would have something constructive to contribute here.
[20:33] <miik> yes
[20:33] <miik> nobody here talks with me, i get the pissed fucked off
[20:34] <Pici> miik: Please stop
[20:34] <miik> the boss dude needs put firefox 3.5 so it comes to my computer in update
[20:34] <miik> and i need songbird in repo, i waited 1 year
[20:35] <miik> no i waited more
[20:37] <miik> jcastro, you have best name jorge castro, its rox, its like fidel castro!! lol
[20:44] <Pici> miik: Firstly, this is a development channel, demanding things won't get them here any faster. Secondly, you're free to help test 3.5 in jaunty, karmic is not released and as such the release requirements are different.  Thirdly, there is a lot of discussion on songbird on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/94494 , it would be wise to read it to see what the blockers are.
[20:53] <NCommander> asac, bugger, you uploaded icedove when I had patches I still wanted to submit :-/
[20:54] <NCommander> asac, how's the future look for a -2 upload ;-)
[21:28] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[21:36] <BUGabundo> asac: have seeds been updated for FF3.5
[21:36] <BUGabundo> ?
[21:43] <ricklerre> hey, I'm sure lots of people have been in to ask this today, but what's the timetable for firefox 3.5 release to repositories?  is it hours, weeks, or with the next release?  thx
[21:45] <BUGabundo> eheh I just asked that
[21:45] <BUGabundo> LOL
[21:45] <BUGabundo> ricklerre: it *is* in the archive! just not the seed!
[21:45] <BUGabundo> ricklerre: $ sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[21:46] <ricklerre> BUGabundo: right, that's obviously the untested non canonical one, and it doesn't actually update does it?  it just installs a second?
[21:47] <BUGabundo> wth!?
[21:48] <BUGabundo> are you crazy dude?
[21:48] <ricklerre> yeah
[21:48] <BUGabundo> that's the real thing mantained by this hard working team
[21:48] <BUGabundo> how can you even think that?
[21:48] <BUGabundo> micahg: hey
[21:50] <ricklerre> I see
[21:51] <ricklerre> sorry to offend, I must have been mistaken
[21:52] <ricklerre> at what points are updates issued to the "firefox" package though(this is just out of curiosity)
[21:52] <BUGabundo> no offece
[21:52] <BUGabundo> hope I didn't offend you either eheh
[21:53] <BUGabundo> ricklerre: AFAIK its up to asac
[21:53] <fta> damn, people are cloning our builds: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.5
[21:54] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOLLOL
[21:55] <BUGabundo> The following unsupported and         untrusted PPAs also provide        'firefox-3.5':
[21:55] <BUGabundo> wtf
[21:55] <fta> and our official ppas are not even listed
[21:56] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOL
[21:56] <BUGabundo> ask LP admins to kick them
[21:56] <BUGabundo> ahaaha
[22:05] <fta> bug 280958
[22:13] <micahg> that's a cool new feature
[22:40] <asac> ricklerre: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/160-FAQ-Where-can-I-get-firefox-3.5-for-Ubuntu.html
[22:41] <asac> NCommander: huh?
[22:41] <asac> NCommander: you have icedove contributions ;)
[22:42] <asac> give them to me ;)
[22:42] <asac> NCommander: i couldnt wait longer with upload ... we already skipped .21 and i thought maybe they would start the MIA process on me ;)
[22:42] <NCommander> asac, I want to shove the ARM patches in there for it
[22:43] <NCommander> Once I fully test them (I've built it, got a debdiff, etc.)
[22:43] <asac> NCommander: oh right. i think i could cherry pick them
[22:43] <NCommander> asac, if you want, I was going to provide a branch then request permission to upload (I am in icedove uploaders ;-))
[22:43] <ricklerre> asac: thanks
[22:43] <asac> you wouldnt feel comfortable to just pull them in and see whats going on?
[22:43] <NCommander> asac, I like my sanity tests, but its your call
[22:44] <NCommander> asac, (although I think we still need an upload to karmic :-/)
[22:44] <asac> NCommander: its not yet uploaded, yeah
[22:45]  * NCommander is approaching his days end
[22:45] <asac> NCommander: ok please start with current .head branch ... then request merge of whatever you want to upload
[22:45] <asac> the -2 release is already opened
[22:45] <asac> so add your changes/cherry-picks there
[22:45] <NCommander> asac, sweet, now I just need to forward port ;-)
[22:47] <asac> i had problems with getting merge request mails in the past week or so
[22:47] <asac> so maybe ping me when you have the merge ready ;)
[22:48] <asac> argh. libgudev is still broken in karmic :/
[22:48] <asac> still == agian
[22:49]  * asac  checks if there are updates
[22:51] <asac> NCommander: seems we also have problems on mips ;)
[22:51] <asac> https://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=icedove
[22:51] <NCommander> asac, woo, thats the sound of testing breaking!
[22:52] <NCommander> That's nasty
[23:00] <BUGabundo> asac: been testing the new AUTO account from NM 3G
[23:00] <BUGabundo> it has a few minor bugs
[23:00] <BUGabundo> if you set it to autoconect it doesn't set DNS or something
[23:01] <BUGabundo> then the 1st manual, terminastes imediately, and a 2nd one works fine
[23:02] <BUGabundo> asac: plus I get disconected a lot! never happened before
[23:16] <asac> BUGabundo: what is "auto connect"?
[23:16] <asac> you mean the Auto GSM Connection created if you dont use wizard?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:17] <BUGabundo> its quite nice!
[23:17] <BUGabundo> now I don't need/have an account
[23:23] <BUGabundo> asac: is there any hidden trick to force 3G to stay *always* connected to 3G? 2G sucks!
[23:25] <asac> the auto GSM connection is known to have issues
[23:25] <asac> wizard is getting more mandatory in future
[23:26] <Nafallo> I thought wizards died with Merlin?
[23:29] <BUGabundo> Nafallo: LOLOL
[23:29] <BUGabundo> asac: mandatory? please explain
[23:30] <asac> no wizard will come back
[23:30] <asac> mightier than ever ;)
[23:31] <BUGabundo> so it will just be auto?
[23:31] <asac> it will try its best
[23:31] <asac> e.g. getting network id from your SIM
[23:31] <asac> scanning if you are roaming
[23:31] <asac> to suggest the right provider
[23:32]  * Nafallo thinks the wizard should have a picture of asac.
[23:32] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOL
[23:32] <BUGabundo> asac: so if it fails, the user fallsback to manual?
[23:35] <Nafallo> if that image fails, we fall back to an image of Merlin :-)
[23:38] <asac> BUGabundo: the user falls back to selecting amongs all providers
[23:38] <asac> and if his provider is not there he can enter his info manually
[23:39] <BUGabundo> ok