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ubottuIn #ubuntu, Mike_lifeguard said: !no, ff35 is Firefox 3.5 Final is currently being built and tested for Jaunty. If you *need* to install it, the *beta* package 'firefox-3.5' from the repositories will be updates when testing is complete. See also http://is.gd/1jkNY00:28
* elky peers to see if mneptok is still around01:24
mneptokyesssssss?01:25
elkymneptok, is pseudoephedrine in canada as easy to aquire as it is in the US?01:26
elkyit's stupidly regulated here and we can only buy tiny doses mixed with something else01:26
elkyand my boss is in canada at the moment01:26
mneptokelky: yeah, it's not regulated terribly01:30
elkywoot. i shall remind my boss to aquire some before he returns.01:31
elkyand now i shall run off to buy foods because my fridge is empty01:31
naliothelky: if it's 'stupidly regulated', is he gonna be able to bring it in?01:48
* Mez yawns02:29
LimCorehello02:40
LimCoreI joined #ubuntu but I can't send to channel02:40
FlannelHi MontelEdwards, how can we help you today?04:38
MontelEdwardshmmm04:39
MontelEdwardsFlannel: Ya, i tried to join a channel and was forwarded here04:40
Flannel"a channel"?04:40
MontelEdwardsyeaup04:40
MontelEdwardsIt is weird04:41
MontelEdwardsFlannel: you know anything about it?04:42
FlannelMontelEdwards: Which channel?04:42
MontelEdwards##beginners-dev04:43
FlannelMontelEdwards: Yes, I can verify that you're banned from there.04:43
FlannelMontelEdwards: And I can also verify that you're aware of those bans.04:44
MontelEdwardsYeah04:44
MontelEdwardsFlannel: But why am i being forwared here?04:45
FlannelMontelEdwards: Because you can set up forwards as well, and apparently thats the current situation.04:45
MontelEdwardsFlannel: so now what?04:48
FlannelMontelEdwards: You part this channel, as you don't have any current business here, as far as I can tell, and go on your merry way.04:49
MontelEdwardsFlannel: I have to leave?04:50
FlannelMontelEdwards: Unless you have current business in this channel, yeah.04:51
ubottuScunizi called the ops in #ubuntu (killerng)04:52
FlannelWe keep this channel spectator free, so we can keep track of who needs to be helped, etc.04:52
Flannelelky: Your cinnamon roll is showing04:52
elkydamn you, now i want a cinnamon roll :(04:54
Flannelelky: They're tasty and easy to make!04:54
elkyFlannel, i look forward to the one you're going to make me then :P04:54
FlannelMontelEdwards: rejoining that channel doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  You're still banned.04:54
MontelEdwardsFlannel: Sorry, i missed what you said, i meant to look at it and i pressed the refresh button on my browser04:54
FlannelMontelEdwards: Ah04:54
FlannelMontelEdwards: Unless you have current business in this channel, yeah.04:55
FlannelWe keep this channel spectator free, so we can keep track of who needs to be helped, etc.04:55
Flannelelky: Come to where I live and I'll have a whole batch waiting for you.04:55
elkythose would be expensive cinnamon rolls :(04:55
MontelEdwardsFlannel: oh, okay then. Later04:55
FlannelBye MontelEdwards04:55
MontelEdwardsbye04:55
Flannelelky: They would be.  Although Quantas is a lovely airlines.04:56
elkyFlannel, why is something outside our namespace forwarding to here?04:56
Flannelelky: beginners-dev is actually #ubuntu-beginners or whatever04:56
Flannelas to *why* that is, I'm not sure04:56
Flanneler, ubuntuforums-beginners, I think?04:56
elkythat group is full of oddness :-/04:56
FlannelIt should really be #ubuntu-beginners... but, yeah.04:57
FlannelI don't presume to know why, I just work here.04:57
pleia2they were told a few differeing things when getting set up initially, it's been confusing for them04:57
pleia2they're moving everything into the ubuntu namespace now (had a meeting about it tonight)04:58
FlannelGood, good.04:58
FlannelThat'll be less confusing for everyone involved04:58
* pleia2 nods04:58
elkypleia2, i'd chance they asked people who had no clue, and/or this was when the forums was not associated officially04:59
pleia2elky: yeah, something like that05:00
FlannelFormer I imagine, since it was #ubuntuforums-beginners until recently when they became... whatever the official name for it is now.05:00
Flannelbut, doesn't really matter why.  It's fixed now, cue the sunshine and bunny rabbits.05:01
ubottucellofellow called the ops in #ubuntu (joejc)06:29
ubottusebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (programble)06:37
dragon_howdy folks06:50
dragon_!wifi06:51
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:51
dragon_the factoid is kind of banal. has this one always been that way?06:51
dragon_Newbies seem to be ignoring it and continuing asking for help. I'm trying to come up with a better one. Meanwhile, any comments?06:52
Flanneldragon_: What about it don't you like?  Or think could be improved?06:53
jussi01dragon_: feel free to suggest a new one :)06:53
dragon_Flannel: amount of info is not enough i believe, as compared to the other factoids06:54
Flanneldragon_: It links to a really thorough wiki page though.  I don't think a factoid has to be long just for its own sake.  But if you can find a way to improve it, by all means, we welcome improvements.06:55
Flannelhmmm, ufw wiki page needs a rename06:56
dragon_Flannel: I agree; working on it.06:57
dragon_this one will catch more attention:07:09
dragon_!wiki is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:09
ubottuIn #ubuntu-ops, dragon_ said: !wiki is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:09
dragon_So ubottu IS dumb enough to repeat it.07:10
jussi01!wiki07:10
ubottuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.07:10
jussi01??07:10
dragon_ouch, i meant wifi07:10
dragon_!wifi07:11
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:11
jussi01!wiki is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:15
ubottuBut wiki already means something else!07:15
jussi01!no, wiki is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:15
dragon_noo07:15
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0107:15
dragon_jussi01: that was supposed to be wifi, not wiki..07:16
jussi01oh crud07:16
jussi01!no, wiki is <reply>http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.07:16
ubottuI'll remember that jussi0107:16
jussi01!no, wifi is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:16
jussi01prod prod07:17
Flannel!wifi07:17
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:17
Flannelit took07:17
FlannelShe just got tired of confirming07:17
jussi01poor girl07:17
jussi01dragon_: have you got anything else you need from us?07:18
dragon_jussi01: that was it. thanks.07:19
ubottudragon_ called the ops in #ubuntu (Helloworld)09:27
elkyi think we know this fool09:30
elkya ban evader, yummy09:34
Myrttiwho, pt1989?09:35
elkyno, helloworld09:37
Myrttianyone in -irc?10:12
Tm_TI could be10:12
ubottusnuxoll called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (Herra_X)10:14
Tm_TMyrtti: ^10:14
Myrttioh jesus10:15
Myrttielky: we banned him from -fi yesterday and -fi-offtopic just few minutes ago10:16
Tm_Twho's he?10:16
Myrttihe's on mobile gprs connection, so he'll probably just redial and get  a new ip10:16
elkyclassless troll10:16
Tm_Tah, this one10:16
ubottuIn #ubuntu, indus said: ubottu: !goodwork is welldone11:31
* Myrtti eyes hobitti at -ot11:58
MyrttiWHUT...13:42
Myrtti!automatix13:42
ubottuAutomatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksForMe »13:42
Myrttioh13:43
Myrttimisread13:43
Myrtti"Automatix is no longer supported"13:43
Tm_Tubot3: sync!15:28
ubot3Factoid sync! not found15:28
Myrttinalioth: pretty plz15:28
* Pici palms15:57
naliothMyrtti: pretty plz what?16:12
naliothubot3: sync16:12
ubot3Factoid sync not found16:12
naliothubot3: kdebase16:12
ubot3kdebase: base applications from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 (intrepid), package size 67 kB, installed size 180 kB16:12
naliothwhat am i supposed to be doing?16:12
Tm_Tnalioth: it's not in sync16:12
Myrttiubot3: !ff3516:12
ubot3Firefox 3.5 Final is currently being built and tested for Jaunty. If you *need* to install it, the firefox-3.5 *beta* package from the repositories will be updated when testing is complete. See also http://is.gd/1jkNY16:13
Myrttiwow16:13
Picilooks good to me16:13
Myrtti18:13] < Myrtti> ubot3: !ff3516:13
Myrtti[18:13] < ubot3> Factoid ff35 not found16:13
Tm_Tnalioth: it shouldn't point to intrepid by default (:16:13
Myrtti(that too16:13
Myrtti)16:13
naliothah16:17
naliothMyrtti: all updated and still no 'sync' factoid17:11
* nalioth doesn't know what else to do17:11
nalioth<sigh> obviously i don't.17:12
Tm_Tnalioth: no, no sync factoid, it was just sync request17:12
naliothmmkay17:13
Picinalioth: its a bot command, not a factoid.17:13
Picii.e: @sync, or whatever that bot's trigger is.17:13
naliotha simple "nalioth, can you bring your bot into the present day?" would suffice17:15
naliothgrumble grumble *supybot* grumble17:34
naliothno wonder they don't work well any more - somebody took away their !botsnack17:41
* Pici glares17:41
majnoonmay i be unbanned fromthe offtopic chan please ?17:43
Picimajnoon: Do you recall why you were banned?18:00
majnoonbasically a BIG bad joke ,and a few little ones 18:01
majnooni can message the bad joke to you :)18:02
PiciYou can say it in the channel18:02
majnoonok here goes :)18:03
majnoonif you stick a duck up a cow's ass is it "quack da moo" or "moo the quack" ??18:03
Picimajnoon: And you felt the need to repeat that about 5 times throughout the course of a day or two without saying anything else?18:04
majnooni WAS in the wrongg and agree with punishment ,elky said for 1 day ,USUALLY i'm quiet in there 18:05
Picimajnoon: It looks like the only times you say things in the channel is when they are compeletely random.  Additionally, you have been removed from the channel a few times in the past for similar issues.18:10
majnoonthis the first time i remember18:11
Picimajnoon: I don't see an prior bans, but I see at least two other kicks from the channel.18:14
majnoonok just saying no remember, not that it no happen 18:15
mneptok"Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." -Eric Hoffer 19:43
mneptokconsider this.19:43
ikoniaMacuyiko: you did that same joke the other day19:44
ikoniaoops19:44
ikoniamajnoon: you did that same joke the other day19:44
Piciikonia:  I asked him to repeat it here.19:44
ikoniaahh19:44
ikoniamy apologies19:44
Picithat said, I'm very busy at work and havent had the time (or patience) to review his bans.19:44
Picis/bans/ban/19:45
ikoniaPici: I'm free I'll sort it out if you're busy19:45
ikoniamajnoon: can you give me two minutes please19:46
Piciikonia: Sure. It was elky's ban originally, so I'd err on the side of caution if you have to.19:46
PiciAlthough we both discussed the ban as it happened.19:46
ikoniaahhh19:47
ikoniawell majnoon I can you you've been removed from the channel multiple times for your jokes as Pici has said (just read up) and as Pici said elky actually banned you so due to your history I'd rather not remove the ban without speaking to elky first, apologies for miss-leading you on that19:49
ikoniamajnoon: I suggest you come back later when elky may be free19:59
ikoniamajnoon: it would help your request if showed you where able to follow requests/direction20:32
ikonia!idle  |majnoon20:32
ubottumajnoon: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.20:32
Picifyi, I had to defuse miik in #ubuntu-mozillateam a little bit ago, so if he gets uppity in #u+1 or #u, hes already been warned.21:01
ikoniata21:40
ikoniacan someone check the ban on limcore 21:42
ikoniahe's back in #ubuntu and I can see an active ban in #ubuntu but can't see how he's actually dodging it21:43
FlannelHe joins as unidentified, so his cloak isn't active21:44
ikoniagot it21:44
FlannelOnce he identifies, he can't speak in the channel21:44
ikoniajust saw it in the log21:44
stewikonia: i do recognize him as someone that had been potentially trouble in the past, I did notice that after granting the cloak he joined here:21:46
stew21:40 -!- LimCore [n=rafal@unaffiliated/limcore] has joined #ubuntu-ops21:46
stew21:40 < LimCore> I joined #ubuntu but I can't send to channel21:46
ikoniayeah I didn't see him in the log 21:46
stewbut parted without getting a response21:46
stewwhat channel is he causing a problem in21:46
ikoniahe ban dodged in #ubuntu21:46
ikoniahe knew he was banned so joined using J_f_kenedy then changed nick once he was in 21:47
ikonia20:46 -!- j_f_kennedy is now known as LimCore21:47
ikoniahe knows what he's doing 21:47
ikoniahe's a persistant pain in the ubuntu name space21:47
stew16:47 -!- 290 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@unaffiliated/limcore [by douglas.freenode.net, 13447294 secs ago]21:48
stewodd, the ban is on his cloak21:48
ikoniahe joined without cloak/nick21:48
ikoniathen changed in the channel21:48
ikoniahe's just bottled it and logged off after I kicked him21:48
ikoniaunless you shoved him off21:48
stewi didn't21:48
stewok, i'm going to make a note of this, and try to talk to him when I see him next21:49
ikoniawas also in as gzojw talking dodging the ban21:49
stewok21:49
stewdo me a favor and let me know if you see him so I can speak with him21:49
ikoniano problem21:49
ikoniaplease be aware of his history in #ubuntu channels though 21:49
steware you aware of bans in other channels I should make sure he knows about21:49
ikoniahe's banned in quite a few I don't know them all of the top of my head, he was at one point a network wide issue, I think christel has had deealings21:50
stewi'm not aware of his history in #ubuntu channels, give me a summary21:50
ikonialong term troll/issue banned multiple times - 21:50
ikoniarude/offensive21:50
stewi was quite aware of him as raf256 when operating in #debain21:50
ikoniawent away for a while21:50
stewhe was a huge pain, but not rally rude or offensive21:51
stewok21:51
ikonia16:50 < gzojw> what is the uname -a for ubuntu 9.04 ?21:51
ikonianow he's playing dumb21:51
mneptokstew: STFU, you Nazi.21:51
ikoniatrying to troll other users21:51
* mneptok whistles innocently21:51
ikoniahe was very rude and offensive in #ubuntu21:51
ikonia16:56  * gzojw rates ubuntu 9.04 as Full of Fail21:51
ikoniaagain same old troll21:51
ikoniaubuntu is rubbish etc21:51
mneptok"try OpenBSD. then ask Theo why he's so security-conscious. we'll see you here back in #ubuntu ~5 minutes afterwards."21:52
ubottuIn ubottu, xnox said: !Linus Torvalds is amazing Finish hacker who created Linux kernel (heart of Ubuntu). Hi now lives in USA and still is maintainer of kernel development. He often writes tongue-in-cheek emails, which are often quoted. For more info see !kernel. He also created git, see !git.21:56
xnoxHello! I've just made a suggestion for ubottu =)21:57
ikoniaxnox: hi21:57
xnoxSlightly different version is bug #39447121:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 394471 in ubuntu-bots "Linus Torvalds" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39447121:57
xnoxikonia: hello21:58
mneptokxnox: it's "Finnish" :P21:59
ikoniahow is that a bug? 21:59
xnoxmneptok: me not english native speak. Or in other words I'm a crap speller =)21:59
xnoxikonia: IMHO an important factoroid is not in the database22:00
ikoniano22:00
ikoniathat is a pointless "bug"22:00
ikoniasomeone will have to deal with that bug 22:00
ikoniaand it is a waste of time and resources for someone to triage/deal with it22:00
xnoxsorry I didn't know the correct way to make a suggestion for a new factoroid22:01
xnoxshall I close the bug as invalid?22:01
ikoniaplease22:01
mneptokxnox: then ask before you start spamming the official bugtracker, please22:01
xnoxI'm sorry. I did find the right channel in the end. Ubuntu IRC channels are run so smoothly that I never needed to contact you guys =)22:03
ikoniano problem22:03
ikoniathank you for removing the bug22:03
Myrttiand with that he'll live happily ever after23:35
Seeker`hi23:36

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