[01:24]  * elky peers to see if mneptok is still around
[01:25] <mneptok> yesssssss?
[01:26] <elky> mneptok, is pseudoephedrine in canada as easy to aquire as it is in the US?
[01:26] <elky> it's stupidly regulated here and we can only buy tiny doses mixed with something else
[01:26] <elky> and my boss is in canada at the moment
[01:30] <mneptok> elky: yeah, it's not regulated terribly
[01:31] <elky> woot. i shall remind my boss to aquire some before he returns.
[01:31] <elky> and now i shall run off to buy foods because my fridge is empty
[01:48] <nalioth> elky: if it's 'stupidly regulated', is he gonna be able to bring it in?
[02:29]  * Mez yawns
[02:40] <LimCore> hello
[02:40] <LimCore> I joined #ubuntu but I can't send to channel
[04:38] <Flannel> Hi MontelEdwards, how can we help you today?
[04:39] <MontelEdwards> hmmm
[04:40] <MontelEdwards> Flannel: Ya, i tried to join a channel and was forwarded here
[04:40] <Flannel> "a channel"?
[04:40] <MontelEdwards> yeaup
[04:41] <MontelEdwards> It is weird
[04:42] <MontelEdwards> Flannel: you know anything about it?
[04:42] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: Which channel?
[04:43] <MontelEdwards> ##beginners-dev
[04:43] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: Yes, I can verify that you're banned from there.
[04:44] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: And I can also verify that you're aware of those bans.
[04:44] <MontelEdwards> Yeah
[04:45] <MontelEdwards> Flannel: But why am i being forwared here?
[04:45] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: Because you can set up forwards as well, and apparently thats the current situation.
[04:48] <MontelEdwards> Flannel: so now what?
[04:49] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: You part this channel, as you don't have any current business here, as far as I can tell, and go on your merry way.
[04:50] <MontelEdwards> Flannel: I have to leave?
[04:51] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: Unless you have current business in this channel, yeah.
[04:52] <Flannel> We keep this channel spectator free, so we can keep track of who needs to be helped, etc.
[04:52] <Flannel> elky: Your cinnamon roll is showing
[04:54] <elky> damn you, now i want a cinnamon roll :(
[04:54] <Flannel> elky: They're tasty and easy to make!
[04:54] <elky> Flannel, i look forward to the one you're going to make me then :P
[04:54] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: rejoining that channel doesn't make a whole lot of sense.  You're still banned.
[04:54] <MontelEdwards> Flannel: Sorry, i missed what you said, i meant to look at it and i pressed the refresh button on my browser
[04:54] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: Ah
[04:55] <Flannel> MontelEdwards: Unless you have current business in this channel, yeah.
[04:55] <Flannel> We keep this channel spectator free, so we can keep track of who needs to be helped, etc.
[04:55] <Flannel> elky: Come to where I live and I'll have a whole batch waiting for you.
[04:55] <elky> those would be expensive cinnamon rolls :(
[04:55] <MontelEdwards> Flannel: oh, okay then. Later
[04:55] <Flannel> Bye MontelEdwards
[04:55] <MontelEdwards> bye
[04:56] <Flannel> elky: They would be.  Although Quantas is a lovely airlines.
[04:56] <elky> Flannel, why is something outside our namespace forwarding to here?
[04:56] <Flannel> elky: beginners-dev is actually #ubuntu-beginners or whatever
[04:56] <Flannel> as to *why* that is, I'm not sure
[04:56] <Flannel> er, ubuntuforums-beginners, I think?
[04:56] <elky> that group is full of oddness :-/
[04:57] <Flannel> It should really be #ubuntu-beginners... but, yeah.
[04:57] <Flannel> I don't presume to know why, I just work here.
[04:57] <pleia2> they were told a few differeing things when getting set up initially, it's been confusing for them
[04:58] <pleia2> they're moving everything into the ubuntu namespace now (had a meeting about it tonight)
[04:58] <Flannel> Good, good.
[04:58] <Flannel> That'll be less confusing for everyone involved
[04:58]  * pleia2 nods
[04:59] <elky> pleia2, i'd chance they asked people who had no clue, and/or this was when the forums was not associated officially
[05:00] <pleia2> elky: yeah, something like that
[05:00] <Flannel> Former I imagine, since it was #ubuntuforums-beginners until recently when they became... whatever the official name for it is now.
[05:01] <Flannel> but, doesn't really matter why.  It's fixed now, cue the sunshine and bunny rabbits.
[06:50] <dragon_> howdy folks
[06:51] <dragon_> !wifi
[06:51] <dragon_> the factoid is kind of banal. has this one always been that way?
[06:52] <dragon_> Newbies seem to be ignoring it and continuing asking for help. I'm trying to come up with a better one. Meanwhile, any comments?
[06:53] <Flannel> dragon_: What about it don't you like?  Or think could be improved?
[06:53] <jussi01> dragon_: feel free to suggest a new one :)
[06:54] <dragon_> Flannel: amount of info is not enough i believe, as compared to the other factoids
[06:55] <Flannel> dragon_: It links to a really thorough wiki page though.  I don't think a factoid has to be long just for its own sake.  But if you can find a way to improve it, by all means, we welcome improvements.
[06:56] <Flannel> hmmm, ufw wiki page needs a rename
[06:57] <dragon_> Flannel: I agree; working on it.
[07:09] <dragon_> this one will catch more attention:
[07:09] <dragon_> !wiki is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:10] <dragon_> So ubottu IS dumb enough to repeat it.
[07:10] <jussi01> !wiki
[07:10] <jussi01> ??
[07:10] <dragon_> ouch, i meant wifi
[07:11] <dragon_> !wifi
[07:15] <jussi01> !wiki is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:15] <jussi01> !no, wiki is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:15] <dragon_> noo
[07:16] <dragon_> jussi01: that was supposed to be wifi, not wiki..
[07:16] <jussi01> oh crud
[07:16] <jussi01> !no, wiki is <reply>http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[07:16] <jussi01> !no, wifi is <reply> Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:17] <jussi01> prod prod
[07:17] <Flannel> !wifi
[07:17] <Flannel> it took
[07:17] <Flannel> She just got tired of confirming
[07:17] <jussi01> poor girl
[07:18] <jussi01> dragon_: have you got anything else you need from us?
[07:19] <dragon_> jussi01: that was it. thanks.
[09:30] <elky> i think we know this fool
[09:34] <elky> a ban evader, yummy
[09:35] <Myrtti> who, pt1989?
[09:37] <elky> no, helloworld
[10:12] <Myrtti> anyone in -irc?
[10:12] <Tm_T> I could be
[10:14] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ^
[10:15] <Myrtti> oh jesus
[10:16] <Myrtti> elky: we banned him from -fi yesterday and -fi-offtopic just few minutes ago
[10:16] <Tm_T> who's he?
[10:16] <Myrtti> he's on mobile gprs connection, so he'll probably just redial and get  a new ip
[10:16] <elky> classless troll
[10:16] <Tm_T> ah, this one
[11:58]  * Myrtti eyes hobitti at -ot
[13:42] <Myrtti> WHUT...
[13:42] <Myrtti> !automatix
[13:43] <Myrtti> oh
[13:43] <Myrtti> misread
[13:43] <Myrtti> "Automatix is no longer supported"
[15:28] <Tm_T> ubot3: sync!
[15:28] <ubot3> Factoid sync! not found
[15:28] <Myrtti> nalioth: pretty plz
[15:57]  * Pici palms
[16:12] <nalioth> Myrtti: pretty plz what?
[16:12] <nalioth> ubot3: sync
[16:12] <ubot3> Factoid sync not found
[16:12] <nalioth> ubot3: kdebase
[16:12] <ubot3> kdebase: base applications from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.1.4-0ubuntu1~intrepid2 (intrepid), package size 67 kB, installed size 180 kB
[16:12] <nalioth> what am i supposed to be doing?
[16:12] <Tm_T> nalioth: it's not in sync
[16:12] <Myrtti> ubot3: !ff35
[16:13] <ubot3> Firefox 3.5 Final is currently being built and tested for Jaunty. If you *need* to install it, the firefox-3.5 *beta* package from the repositories will be updated when testing is complete. See also http://is.gd/1jkNY
[16:13] <Myrtti> wow
[16:13] <Pici> looks good to me
[16:13] <Myrtti> 18:13] < Myrtti> ubot3: !ff35
[16:13] <Myrtti> [18:13] < ubot3> Factoid ff35 not found
[16:13] <Tm_T> nalioth: it shouldn't point to intrepid by default (:
[16:13] <Myrtti> (that too
[16:13] <Myrtti> )
[16:17] <nalioth> ah
[17:11] <nalioth> Myrtti: all updated and still no 'sync' factoid
[17:11]  * nalioth doesn't know what else to do
 obviously i don't.
[17:12] <Tm_T> nalioth: no, no sync factoid, it was just sync request
[17:13] <nalioth> mmkay
[17:13] <Pici> nalioth: its a bot command, not a factoid.
[17:13] <Pici> i.e: @sync, or whatever that bot's trigger is.
[17:15] <nalioth> a simple "nalioth, can you bring your bot into the present day?" would suffice
[17:34] <nalioth> grumble grumble *supybot* grumble
[17:41] <nalioth> no wonder they don't work well any more - somebody took away their !botsnack
[17:41]  * Pici glares
[17:43] <majnoon> may i be unbanned fromthe offtopic chan please ?
[18:00] <Pici> majnoon: Do you recall why you were banned?
[18:01] <majnoon> basically a BIG bad joke ,and a few little ones 
[18:02] <majnoon> i can message the bad joke to you :)
[18:02] <Pici> You can say it in the channel
[18:03] <majnoon> ok here goes :)
[18:03] <majnoon> if you stick a duck up a cow's ass is it "quack da moo" or "moo the quack" ??
[18:04] <Pici> majnoon: And you felt the need to repeat that about 5 times throughout the course of a day or two without saying anything else?
[18:05] <majnoon> i WAS in the wrongg and agree with punishment ,elky said for 1 day ,USUALLY i'm quiet in there 
[18:10] <Pici> majnoon: It looks like the only times you say things in the channel is when they are compeletely random.  Additionally, you have been removed from the channel a few times in the past for similar issues.
[18:11] <majnoon> this the first time i remember
[18:14] <Pici> majnoon: I don't see an prior bans, but I see at least two other kicks from the channel.
[18:15] <majnoon> ok just saying no remember, not that it no happen 
[19:43] <mneptok> "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." -Eric Hoffer 
[19:43] <mneptok> consider this.
[19:44] <ikonia> Macuyiko: you did that same joke the other day
[19:44] <ikonia> oops
[19:44] <ikonia> majnoon: you did that same joke the other day
[19:44] <Pici> ikonia:  I asked him to repeat it here.
[19:44] <ikonia> ahh
[19:44] <ikonia> my apologies
[19:44] <Pici> that said, I'm very busy at work and havent had the time (or patience) to review his bans.
[19:45] <Pici> s/bans/ban/
[19:45] <ikonia> Pici: I'm free I'll sort it out if you're busy
[19:46] <ikonia> majnoon: can you give me two minutes please
[19:46] <Pici> ikonia: Sure. It was elky's ban originally, so I'd err on the side of caution if you have to.
[19:46] <Pici> Although we both discussed the ban as it happened.
[19:47] <ikonia> ahhh
[19:49] <ikonia> well majnoon I can you you've been removed from the channel multiple times for your jokes as Pici has said (just read up) and as Pici said elky actually banned you so due to your history I'd rather not remove the ban without speaking to elky first, apologies for miss-leading you on that
[19:59] <ikonia> majnoon: I suggest you come back later when elky may be free
[20:32] <ikonia> majnoon: it would help your request if showed you where able to follow requests/direction
[20:32] <ikonia> !idle  |majnoon
[21:01] <Pici> fyi, I had to defuse miik in #ubuntu-mozillateam a little bit ago, so if he gets uppity in #u+1 or #u, hes already been warned.
[21:40] <ikonia> ta
[21:42] <ikonia> can someone check the ban on limcore 
[21:43] <ikonia> he's back in #ubuntu and I can see an active ban in #ubuntu but can't see how he's actually dodging it
[21:44] <Flannel> He joins as unidentified, so his cloak isn't active
[21:44] <ikonia> got it
[21:44] <Flannel> Once he identifies, he can't speak in the channel
[21:44] <ikonia> just saw it in the log
[21:46] <stew> ikonia: i do recognize him as someone that had been potentially trouble in the past, I did notice that after granting the cloak he joined here:
[21:46] <stew> 21:40 -!- LimCore [n=rafal@unaffiliated/limcore] has joined #ubuntu-ops
[21:46] <stew> 21:40 < LimCore> I joined #ubuntu but I can't send to channel
[21:46] <ikonia> yeah I didn't see him in the log 
[21:46] <stew> but parted without getting a response
[21:46] <stew> what channel is he causing a problem in
[21:46] <ikonia> he ban dodged in #ubuntu
[21:47] <ikonia> he knew he was banned so joined using J_f_kenedy then changed nick once he was in 
[21:47] <ikonia> 20:46 -!- j_f_kennedy is now known as LimCore
[21:47] <ikonia> he knows what he's doing 
[21:47] <ikonia> he's a persistant pain in the ubuntu name space
[21:48] <stew> 16:47 -!- 290 - #ubuntu: ban *!*@unaffiliated/limcore [by douglas.freenode.net, 13447294 secs ago]
[21:48] <stew> odd, the ban is on his cloak
[21:48] <ikonia> he joined without cloak/nick
[21:48] <ikonia> then changed in the channel
[21:48] <ikonia> he's just bottled it and logged off after I kicked him
[21:48] <ikonia> unless you shoved him off
[21:48] <stew> i didn't
[21:49] <stew> ok, i'm going to make a note of this, and try to talk to him when I see him next
[21:49] <ikonia> was also in as gzojw talking dodging the ban
[21:49] <stew> ok
[21:49] <stew> do me a favor and let me know if you see him so I can speak with him
[21:49] <ikonia> no problem
[21:49] <ikonia> please be aware of his history in #ubuntu channels though 
[21:49] <stew> are you aware of bans in other channels I should make sure he knows about
[21:50] <ikonia> he's banned in quite a few I don't know them all of the top of my head, he was at one point a network wide issue, I think christel has had deealings
[21:50] <stew> i'm not aware of his history in #ubuntu channels, give me a summary
[21:50] <ikonia> long term troll/issue banned multiple times - 
[21:50] <ikonia> rude/offensive
[21:50] <stew> i was quite aware of him as raf256 when operating in #debain
[21:50] <ikonia> went away for a while
[21:51] <stew> he was a huge pain, but not rally rude or offensive
[21:51] <stew> ok
[21:51] <ikonia> 16:50 < gzojw> what is the uname -a for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[21:51] <ikonia> now he's playing dumb
[21:51] <mneptok> stew: STFU, you Nazi.
[21:51] <ikonia> trying to troll other users
[21:51]  * mneptok whistles innocently
[21:51] <ikonia> he was very rude and offensive in #ubuntu
[21:51] <ikonia> 16:56  * gzojw rates ubuntu 9.04 as Full of Fail
[21:51] <ikonia> again same old troll
[21:51] <ikonia> ubuntu is rubbish etc
[21:52] <mneptok> "try OpenBSD. then ask Theo why he's so security-conscious. we'll see you here back in #ubuntu ~5 minutes afterwards."
[21:57] <xnox> Hello! I've just made a suggestion for ubottu =)
[21:57] <ikonia> xnox: hi
[21:57] <xnox> Slightly different version is bug #394471
[21:58] <xnox> ikonia: hello
[21:59] <mneptok> xnox: it's "Finnish" :P
[21:59] <ikonia> how is that a bug? 
[21:59] <xnox> mneptok: me not english native speak. Or in other words I'm a crap speller =)
[22:00] <xnox> ikonia: IMHO an important factoroid is not in the database
[22:00] <ikonia> no
[22:00] <ikonia> that is a pointless "bug"
[22:00] <ikonia> someone will have to deal with that bug 
[22:00] <ikonia> and it is a waste of time and resources for someone to triage/deal with it
[22:01] <xnox> sorry I didn't know the correct way to make a suggestion for a new factoroid
[22:01] <xnox> shall I close the bug as invalid?
[22:01] <ikonia> please
[22:01] <mneptok> xnox: then ask before you start spamming the official bugtracker, please
[22:03] <xnox> I'm sorry. I did find the right channel in the end. Ubuntu IRC channels are run so smoothly that I never needed to contact you guys =)
[22:03] <ikonia> no problem
[22:03] <ikonia> thank you for removing the bug
[23:35] <Myrtti> and with that he'll live happily ever after
[23:36] <Seeker`> hi