| knome | and as i said, once you mount something with sshfs, the mount appears as a normal local folder | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | so you don't need any additional software | 00:00 |
| jules_ | Hi | 00:01 |
| knome | !hi | jules_ | 00:01 |
| ubottu | jules_: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! | 00:01 |
| jules_ | i'm having troubles with ALSA drivers | 00:01 |
| jules_ | thanks! | 00:01 |
| jules_ | well | 00:02 |
| jules_ | i have a crystal cx4235-qx3 audio card | 00:02 |
| jules_ | and i can't get it to work | 00:02 |
| knome | which xubuntu? | 00:02 |
| jules_ | i've been looking over the internet but haven't found how to do it | 00:02 |
| jules_ | xubuntu 9.04 | 00:02 |
| jules_ | downloaded it a few hours ago | 00:03 |
| knome | jules_, okay. it uses pulseaudio as the default. | 00:03 |
| jules_ | i downloaded and installed the updates it asked for | 00:03 |
| jules_ | i guess that's not the right one for xubuntu, right? | 00:03 |
| knome | it just doesn't work for some | 00:04 |
| jules_ | i'm pretty new with this and i have no idea where to start | 00:04 |
| knome | try removing pulseaudio | 00:04 |
| jules_ | from synaptic? | 00:04 |
| knome | yep | 00:04 |
| jules_ | it seems that nothing called pulseaudio is installed here or at least synaptic doesn't recognize it | 00:05 |
| jules_ | (i didn't uninstalled it, though) | 00:05 |
| jules_ | ... are you there? | 00:07 |
| knome | yep, sorry | 00:08 |
| jules_ | no prob | 00:08 |
| knome | hmm, right... | 00:09 |
| jules_ | it seems that pulseaudio is not installed | 00:09 |
| jules_ | not under that name, at least | 00:09 |
| knome | okay | 00:09 |
| knome | so what's the problem? you hear nothing or you get an error? | 00:09 |
| jules_ | i hear nothing and the icon in the tray bar (upper-right corner) is greyed out | 00:10 |
| jules_ | and if i ask it to do anything it says.. | 00:10 |
| jules_ | let me see... | 00:10 |
| jules_ | GStreamer was unable to detect any sound devices. Some sound system specific GStreamer packages may be missing. It may also be a permissions problem. | 00:10 |
| knome | right.. | 00:10 |
| knome | if you right click it and select properties, what do you get? | 00:11 |
| knome | you should be able to select a sound card there | 00:11 |
| jules_ | that's the way i got that :D | 00:11 |
| knome | ah, okay | 00:11 |
| knome | so what does 'lspci | grep audio' give from terminal? | 00:12 |
| jules_ | the sound card i an ISA card | 00:12 |
| knome | aha... | 00:12 |
| jules_ | let me see... | 00:12 |
| knome | has it worked before? | 00:12 |
| jules_ | it says nothing | 00:12 |
| jules_ | nor does nothing | 00:13 |
| knome | it shouldn't say anything as you have an isa controller | 00:13 |
| knome | ;) | 00:13 |
| jules_ | nope, it didn't work before | 00:13 |
| knome | okay | 00:13 |
| jules_ | great :) | 00:13 |
| knome | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSetupSoundCards | 00:13 |
| knome | this page might help you | 00:13 |
| jules_ | ok | 00:14 |
| jules_ | i'll give it a try | 00:14 |
| jules_ | if i can't solve this i'll be back | 00:14 |
| jules_ | oh! | 00:14 |
| jules_ | wait | 00:14 |
| knome | yep? | 00:14 |
| jules_ | i've seen in a forum someone with the same problem | 00:14 |
| knome | was there a solution? | 00:14 |
| jules_ | theoricly yes | 00:15 |
| jules_ | but it didn't work for me | 00:15 |
| jules_ | i couldn't run alsamixer | 00:15 |
| knome | which error did you get? | 00:15 |
| slimjimflim | hi, anybody know how to make a i386 deb into amd64? | 00:15 |
| knome | jules_, suppose it's this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156334 | 00:16 |
| knome | slimjimflim, you can't. | 00:16 |
| slimjimflim | what about the source? | 00:16 |
| jules_ | no, it wasn't... | 00:16 |
| jules_ | well | 00:16 |
| jules_ | i'll read that one | 00:16 |
| slimjimflim | do i need to rewrite the code? | 00:16 |
| jules_ | and the other one you gave me | 00:17 |
| jules_ | if it doesn't work, i'll be back | 00:17 |
| jules_ | thanks! | 00:17 |
| knome | slimjimflim, no, if it's written correctly. usually it is. | 00:17 |
| knome | jules_, np. | 00:17 |
| knome | slimjimflim, building from source builds to your architecture. | 00:17 |
| slimjimflim | ook | 00:17 |
| knome | slimjimflim, sometimes it's not possible, but that's rare | 00:17 |
| slimjimflim | ty | 00:17 |
| knome | np | 00:18 |
| jules_ | mmm | 00:21 |
| jules_ | i had no luck | 00:21 |
| knome | okay | 00:21 |
| knome | did you try loading modules as suggested in the HowToSetup... pgae? | 00:21 |
| jules_ | apparently i have to use the snd_cs4236 driver | 00:21 |
| knome | *page | 00:21 |
| knome | jules_, it's ok, as long as it works | 00:22 |
| jules_ | yes, i tried he modeprobe thing | 00:22 |
| jules_ | with the driver i told you | 00:22 |
| knome | ok | 00:22 |
| jules_ | but it said nothing | 00:22 |
| jules_ | and then i couldn't use alsamixer | 00:22 |
| knome | jules_, what was the error? | 00:22 |
| jules_ | i installed "alsamixergui" (guess is the same than alsamixer?) | 00:23 |
| jules_ | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory | 00:23 |
| knome | uh... i suppose that's gui for the alsamixer | 00:23 |
| jules_ | what's gui? | 00:23 |
| knome | graphical user interface | 00:23 |
| jules_ | i couldn't find the not-gui alsamixer in synaptic | 00:24 |
| jules_ | ohhhh | 00:24 |
| jules_ | now i understand | 00:24 |
| aacosta_ | yeah i tried vsftpd again i must have something incoerectly on my .conf file | 00:24 |
| jules_ | i have the graphic interface but not the mixer itself | 00:24 |
| knome | alsa-utils | 00:24 |
| knome | jules_, ^ | 00:24 |
| jules_ | it's installed | 00:25 |
| jules_ | may be i should restart the pc? | 00:25 |
| knome | you could try that, but the module won't be loaded if you haven't followed the guide to the end | 00:26 |
| knome | i don't think that's a problem at this stage, though :) | 00:26 |
| jules_ | i did it | 00:26 |
| jules_ | i added the line in the module file | 00:27 |
| jules_ | and then restarted | 00:27 |
| jules_ | an hour ago... | 00:27 |
| knome | oh, right :D | 00:27 |
| jules_ | but i didn't restarted when i installed alsa-utils | 00:27 |
| jules_ | well | 00:28 |
| knome | jules_, that's not a problem. | 00:28 |
| jules_ | i'll try restarting | 00:28 |
| knome | try running alsaconf after that | 00:28 |
| jules_ | ok | 00:28 |
| jules_ | i'll be back | 00:28 |
| jules_ | no, it isn't working | 00:35 |
| jules_ | and know i have no graphic interface in the desktop... | 00:35 |
| jules_ | no toolbars at all | 00:35 |
| jules_ | like when you close explorer.exe in windows | 00:35 |
| jules_ | but i still have icons | 00:36 |
| jules_ | alsaconf doesn't work either (it tells me "bash: alsaconf: command not found | 00:37 |
| jules_ | ") | 00:37 |
| jules_ | knome? | 00:37 |
| knome | jules_, okay... | 00:38 |
| jules_ | how do i reactivate the explorer.exe-like thing? | 00:39 |
| knome | oh, the panels? | 00:39 |
| jules_ | yeahp | 00:39 |
| knome | alt+f2 > xfce4-panel | 00:39 |
| jules_ | oh, yeah | 00:40 |
| jules_ | thanks :) | 00:40 |
| jules_ | well | 00:41 |
| jules_ | it's the same | 00:41 |
| jules_ | no audio | 00:41 |
| knome | yeah | 00:41 |
| knome | i'm browsing through the forums | 00:41 |
| knome | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90869 | 00:42 |
| jules_ | i think that i have not installed the ALSA apps correctly | 00:42 |
| knome | that's an old thread but there might be something useful if you're willing to read | 00:44 |
| knome | jules_, there's another: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=337276 | 00:45 |
| jules_ | ok, i'll give it a try | 00:45 |
| jules_ | thanks! | 00:46 |
| knome | np | 00:46 |
| MTec007 | when will firefox be upgraded to 3.5? | 00:49 |
| MTec007 | i just tried to install firefox-3.5 but it wasnt the public release | 00:49 |
| knome | karmic at least, if not earlier. you might ask that from #ubuntu-devel or sth. | 00:49 |
| SiDi | MTec007: wait a little, it'll be here in 2 days max | 00:49 |
| slimjimflim | is there a way to just run x86 binaries on amd64? | 00:49 |
| MTec007 | 2 days? | 00:50 |
| MTec007 | why? | 00:50 |
| SiDi | MTec007: packaging time ? Q.Q | 00:50 |
| knome | slimjimflim, on a 32-bit subsystem, yes. | 00:50 |
| MTec007 | it should not take that long | 00:50 |
| SiDi | MTec007: if you really can't wait, use the mozilla team's PPA on launchpad.net, i've got the 3.6 at the moment | 00:50 |
| slimjimflim | any other suggestions for 64bit? | 00:50 |
| knome | slimjimflim, but i would recommend building the package | 00:50 |
| slimjimflim | i'm having a lot of trouble building | 00:50 |
| knome | MTec007, people are volunteers... | 00:50 |
| slimjimflim | missing dependencies etc. | 00:50 |
| SiDi | MTec007: it takes that long to make sure it works out of the box on enough architectures before you let millions of people use it | 00:51 |
| slimjimflim | buggy config file | 00:51 |
| knome | slimjimflim, you need to install the -dev libs | 00:51 |
| SiDi | slimjimflim: what package is it ? will help much... | 00:51 |
| slimjimflim | can you be more specific? | 00:51 |
| MTec007 | it should work, i tested the 3.5RC's | 00:51 |
| slimjimflim | hold on | 00:51 |
| MTec007 | :( | 00:51 |
| knome | slimjimflim, if the dependency is libfoobar, you need to install libfoobar-dev in order to fill the dependency | 00:51 |
| slimjimflim | jpilot-picsnvideos_0.2-1_i386.deb | 00:52 |
| SiDi | MTec007: feel free to raise your concern to the Quality Assurance team people, but they might kick your ass ;) Usually things like that are NEVER inserted between two releases, so that's already a big thing they allow firefox 3.5 to land | 00:52 |
| slimjimflim | http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=227672 | 00:52 |
| slimjimflim | the dependency in question is gdbm-dev | 00:53 |
| MTec007 | so your saying that they shouldnt upgrade it untill the next major version of xubuntu? | 00:53 |
| slimjimflim | which doesn't come up w/ apt-cache search | 00:53 |
| slimjimflim | i did install libgdbm-dev though | 00:53 |
| slimjimflim | but no dice | 00:53 |
| SiDi | MTec007: its how things work in Ubuntu. | 00:53 |
| SiDi | !sru | 00:53 |
| ubottu | Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 00:53 |
| knome | !info libgdbm-dev | 00:53 |
| ubottu | libgdbm-dev (source: gdbm): GNU dbm database routines (development files). In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.3-4 (jaunty), package size 48 kB, installed size 172 kB | 00:53 |
| knome | slimjimflim, do you also have libgdbm3 installed? | 00:54 |
| MTec007 | geeze. i guess ill have to download it and change my launchers | 00:54 |
| * slimjimflim checks | 00:54 | |
| slimjimflim | knome: yea | 00:55 |
| SiDi | MTec007: is it SO hard to wait 1 or 2 days ? If so, as i already told you, you can use the Mozilla team's PPA which has daily builds : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 00:56 |
| slimjimflim | here's the source i'm using: | 00:56 |
| slimjimflim | http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=227672&filename=jpilot-picsnvideos_0.2-1.tar.gz&a=32101995 | 00:56 |
| slimjimflim | jpilot-picsnvideos_0.2-1.tar.gz | 00:56 |
| knome | slimjimflim, what's the error? | 00:57 |
| slimjimflim | configure: error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub | 00:57 |
| slimjimflim | the file isn't in the dir | 00:57 |
| MTec007 | k | 01:01 |
| slimjimflim | knome, i might be losing packets, did you just say something? | 01:02 |
| slimjimflim | idk if you can see this, but i'm reconnecting | 01:03 |
| knome | wait | 01:04 |
| slimjimflim | ok | 01:04 |
| knome | slimjimflim, copy config.sub and config.guess from /usr/share/misc/ to the build dir | 01:04 |
| knome | you can at least skip that error | 01:04 |
| slimjimflim | cool, i think it worked | 01:06 |
| slimjimflim | nope | 01:07 |
| knome | so what's the error now? ;> | 01:07 |
| slimjimflim | hold on | 01:07 |
| slimjimflim | no errors, but the plugin doesn't show up in jpilot | 01:09 |
| knome | did you "make" and "sudo make install" ? | 01:09 |
| slimjimflim | ya | 01:09 |
| knome | soundw weird. | 01:09 |
| knome | *sounds | 01:09 |
| knome | did you restart jpilot? | 01:09 |
| slimjimflim | ya | 01:10 |
| knome | hmm. | 01:11 |
| slimjimflim | lemme run jpilot from cli | 01:11 |
| knome | oaky | 01:11 |
| knome | *okay | 01:11 |
| slimjimflim | brb, i'm connected via phone, have to disconnect to sync | 01:12 |
| knome | np | 01:12 |
| slimjimflim | what a disaster, now it won't even sync | 01:21 |
| slimjimflim | bleh, i'm gonna make dinner, i'm famished | 01:22 |
| knome | ::) | 01:23 |
| jadez03 | Anyone around? | 02:16 |
| Raggs | hi jadez03 | 02:18 |
| jadez03 | Hey there | 02:20 |
| jadez03 | know anything about the audio in xubuntu? | 02:20 |
| jadez03 | more specifically the audio panel applet and the media buttons on a laptop (like adjust volume) | 02:20 |
| jadez03 | just switched to xubuntu from gnomebuntu and now they don't work, and also to adjust the volume you have to launch the mixer, which takes about 5 seconds, and is annoying if you adjust volume frequently | 02:21 |
| Raggs | jadez03, unfortunately I am not on my laptop atm | 02:23 |
| Raggs | in the middle of downloading xubuntu as well | 02:24 |
| jadez03 | lol | 02:30 |
| jadez03 | thanks anyways | 02:30 |
| === [o_O] is now known as danopia | ||
| cody | is there anyone here? | 03:21 |
| cody | damn | 03:22 |
| forces | :O | 03:22 |
| cody | I installed xbuntu on my laptop | 03:22 |
| cody | now my ouse wont work | 03:22 |
| cody | *mouse | 03:22 |
| cody | no mouse will work | 03:22 |
| forces | usb? | 03:23 |
| cody | nope | 03:23 |
| forces | ps2? | 03:23 |
| cody | I think so | 03:23 |
| cody | the green cable? | 03:23 |
| forces | =.= | 03:24 |
| cody | its round | 03:24 |
| cody | sorry im noobish | 03:24 |
| forces | your keyboard is ps2 too? | 03:24 |
| forces | ps2 have 8 pins | 03:24 |
| forces | in a circle | 03:24 |
| cody | yes | 03:24 |
| cody | well its a laptop the keyboard is built in | 03:25 |
| jadez03 | <forces> ps2? | 03:28 |
| jadez03 | <cody> I think so | 03:28 |
| jadez03 | <cody> the green cable? | 03:28 |
| jadez03 | <forces> =.= | 03:28 |
| jadez03 | LOL | 03:28 |
| forces | xD | 03:28 |
| forces | does your keyboard work in another O.S.? | 03:29 |
| cody | my keyboard works in this one | 03:29 |
| cody | its the mouse | 03:30 |
| forces | :O | 03:30 |
| forces | the trackpad? | 03:30 |
| cody | no that didnt even work when I had windows | 03:31 |
| cody | its a ps2 mouse | 03:31 |
| forces | so the problem is not the software | 03:32 |
| forces | could be a hardware problem | 03:32 |
| cody | the mouse I had before worked | 03:33 |
| cody | that one died | 03:33 |
| cody | and ive tried 3-4 mice | 03:34 |
| forces | maybe the port is bad | 03:35 |
| forces | try with a usb mouse | 03:35 |
| cody | I have | 03:36 |
| cody | I think im just going to go with XP again | 03:39 |
| forces | ok good luck with virus and cracks | 03:42 |
| seevee | What would the command look like for copying files from local to ssh server? | 03:42 |
| jadez03 | man, cody has BAD mouse luck apparently | 03:46 |
| forces | yes | 03:47 |
| forces | but he choose windows than a new mouse | 03:47 |
| jadez03 | funny, under *buntu i have much better (and faster to boot) mouse support than under vista or xp | 03:49 |
| jadez03 | anyone familiar with python? | 04:12 |
| jadez03 | man its easy to get ignored here from people being away, but in #ubuntu you just get lost in a sea of questions | 04:25 |
| yesitisjustme | when trying to install googleearth it freezes and turns black anyone know what could be the problem? | 04:58 |
| tmurase | what is music player of choice for xfce? | 06:22 |
| R1cochet | i used to use audacious but prefer exaile myself | 07:10 |
| R1cochet | though i havent tried many of the others | 07:10 |
| mikubuntu | hey guys, this is prolly a stupid question, so feel free to give a stupid answer ... haha ... can i download an .rpm file of kompozer? | 10:00 |
| mikubuntu | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170132&package_id=194013&release_id=682029 doesn't seem to have a deb version listed | 10:01 |
| knome | mikubuntu, you can use rpm, but you have to convert it to deb if you want to install it | 10:02 |
| knome | !info alien | 10:02 |
| ubottu | alien (source: alien): convert and install rpm and other packages. In component main, is optional. Version 8.73 (jaunty), package size 104 kB, installed size 276 kB | 10:02 |
| SiDi | knome: mikubuntu: i seriously dont recommand using alien | 10:03 |
| mikubuntu | oh, my. ok, so i get 'alien' from synaptic? | 10:03 |
| SiDi | its said to produce bad debs | 10:03 |
| knome | SiDi, the question was "can i" :P | 10:03 |
| knome | you always can try | 10:03 |
| mikubuntu | sidi, oops | 10:03 |
| knome | the other option is building from source, which is a bit more complex operation | 10:03 |
| mikubuntu | out of my league, you might have guessed | 10:03 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: you should download the source and compile it :) | 10:04 |
| mikubuntu | what about running windows version in wine? | 10:04 |
| knome | building from source is not the first thing i suggest to anyone | 10:04 |
| SiDi | native version is better usually :p | 10:04 |
| SiDi | its not _that_ hard | 10:04 |
| mikubuntu | i don't even know what COMPILING means! | 10:04 |
| SiDi | you just pick it, extract it, open the INSTALL file and follow the instructions | 10:04 |
| SiDi | it means turning the source code into the executable file that you'll use | 10:04 |
| knome | mikubuntu, don't worry, SiDi will walk you through compiling | 10:04 |
| SiDi | a deb package contains this executable file | 10:05 |
| mikubuntu | hahaha, knome is volunteering sidi | 10:05 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: :D | 10:05 |
| knome | well he's the one suggesting it and not even try alien first | 10:05 |
| mikubuntu | alien sounds like it would be a good thing, if it were a good thing | 10:06 |
| SiDi | dont do stuff with aliens, knome :p | 10:06 |
| knome | trying doesn't cost anything | 10:06 |
| mikubuntu | but if its not a good thing ... | 10:06 |
| knome | even if it produced bad deb, it just doesn't work and you can forget it and start building | 10:06 |
| SiDi | knome: it can cost a bad deb package that puts files in wrong locations and that you then have to remove ^.^ | 10:06 |
| SiDi | or bad dependency tracking | 10:06 |
| knome | SiDi, they still won't break your system | 10:07 |
| SiDi | ah, who knows :P | 10:07 |
| mikubuntu | nothing can break linux | 10:07 |
| knome | SiDi, wel... you can always fix it | 10:07 |
| SiDi | hah, many things can, mikubuntu :) | 10:07 |
| knome | like i've done | 10:07 |
| mikubuntu | haha, ya, i know | 10:07 |
| mikubuntu | i once thought i'd try kde, and i din't like it, so i went to synaptic and uninstalled every program that started with a k. that broke linux. | 10:08 |
| knome | SiDi, i've not done a fresh install since 6.10 and i've had the dependencies broken for *many* times | 10:08 |
| knome | SiDi, and i've even used betas ;) | 10:08 |
| knome | mikubuntu, lol, that was a bit harsh ;) | 10:09 |
| mikubuntu | ok, sidi, so are you really going to teach me to compile? | 10:09 |
| brainthunk | hi which one is faster xubuntu or kubuntu? | 10:09 |
| knome | brainthunk, xubuntu. | 10:09 |
| mikubuntu | xubuntu | 10:09 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: actually, just extract that thing, and execute bin/kompoze | 10:09 |
| mikubuntu | fluxbuntu | 10:09 |
| SiDi | its already compiled for you :p | 10:09 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: fluxbuntu comes with a WM, not with a DE </troll> | 10:10 |
| SiDi | knome: do you know what kompozer is ? A damn WYSIWYG html editor | 10:10 |
| mikubuntu | i don't understand. | 10:10 |
| knome | SiDi, nope. | 10:10 |
| knome | mikubuntu, it seems that the package is compiled, even if you download the "source" | 10:10 |
| mikubuntu | sidi, which file? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170132&package_id=194013&release_id=682029 | 10:11 |
| knome | mikubuntu, so you only have to run it, you don't have to compile/build it to use it | 10:11 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: the one for your architecture \o/ | 10:11 |
| SiDi | knome: i'm helping someone to install a WYSIWYG editor :| | 10:11 |
| knome | SiDi, gedit is a good (x)html editor... | 10:11 |
| SiDi | knome: indeed. | 10:11 |
| SiDi | knome: my preference goes to npp (windows FOSS app) though | 10:11 |
| mikubuntu | sidi, usually the apps i get are for i386 | 10:12 |
| SiDi | kompozer-0.8a4-gcc4.2-i686.tar.gz should be the one if you have a 32bit architecture | 10:12 |
| mikubuntu | but the only one like that is rpm | 10:12 |
| SiDi | take the i686 | 10:12 |
| knome | SiDi, *windows*? | 10:13 |
| SiDi | knome: yeh... | 10:13 |
| knome | dang. | 10:13 |
| knome | ;) | 10:13 |
| SiDi | they didnt have linux at work \o/ | 10:13 |
| knome | install one then | 10:13 |
| knome | never been a problem | 10:13 |
| SiDi | was either windows or macos... seeing macos's usability definition, the choice has been fast | 10:13 |
| SiDi | my boss would have made an infarctus | 10:14 |
| mikubuntu | ok, its downloading will take a few mins on this slow connection | 10:14 |
| SiDi | i already made them switch from IE to firefox and it took me 3 months knome | 10:14 |
| knome | i've broken several workplace it norms ;) | 10:14 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: why why WHY do you want a WYSIWYG editor ? :( | 10:14 |
| mikubuntu | it's downloading with archive manager | 10:14 |
| mikubuntu | cause i'm not a coder | 10:15 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: still | 10:16 |
| SiDi | html is easy to learn | 10:16 |
| mikubuntu | grabbed a free template to make my friends website www.kikesplace.net a little more attractive | 10:16 |
| SiDi | WYSIWYG editors make you write really really bad things | 10:16 |
| mikubuntu | like what? this is going to be a one page site with nothing fancy | 10:16 |
| mikubuntu | just address, pix, phone numbers, and email | 10:17 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: like <style> inside html, tables everywhere | 10:17 |
| mikubuntu | i know, but im NOt a coder ... | 10:17 |
| SiDi | its not hard to learn at all mikubuntu | 10:17 |
| SiDi | just learn the very basics and you'll be done in an afternoon | 10:17 |
| SiDi | i can even help you if you want | 10:18 |
| mikubuntu | <BS>, er, i mean <BR> hahaha | 10:18 |
| SiDi | <BR> is so bad... | 10:18 |
| SiDi | its <br />, and there is almost no valide reason to use a <br /> :P | 10:18 |
| mikubuntu | ok, archive manager just poppd up, what do i do? | 10:18 |
| SiDi | you extract the bin folder to wherever you want | 10:18 |
| SiDi | the executable file is inside it | 10:18 |
| mikubuntu | so i clickd on the /kompozer-0.8a4/ file and theres a bunch of subfiles, one is kompozer-bin | 10:20 |
| mikubuntu | how/where do i extract it? | 10:21 |
| mikubuntu | is that the right one? | 10:21 |
| mikubuntu | kompozer-bin? | 10:21 |
| mikubuntu | i don't know where or how to extract it | 10:23 |
| mikubuntu | sidi, hhheeeeelllllpppp | 10:24 |
| SiDi | extract everything somewhere | 10:24 |
| SiDi | in a folder which name you like | 10:24 |
| SiDi | and then, double click the file named "kompozer" | 10:24 |
| mikubuntu | i don't know where? where is the logical place and name? | 10:24 |
| mikubuntu | everything, or just the kompozer-bin file? | 10:25 |
| SiDi | you put everything in the archive, wherever you want | 10:26 |
| SiDi | /home/yourname/myfolderwhereiwannaputkompozer/ extract here ! | 10:26 |
| mikubuntu | but i mean isn't there a logical place for it? i mean i wouldn't put it on the desktop, or in documents, or pictures ... or videos, i don't KNOW wehre i should put it | 10:29 |
| mikubuntu | can you tell me where to put it :0 | 10:29 |
| mikubuntu | hahaha | 10:29 |
| mikubuntu | really , i don't know wehre | 10:30 |
| mikubuntu | where | 10:30 |
| mikubuntu | i go have smoke ... | 10:33 |
| === Laibsch1 is now known as Laibsch | ||
| mikubuntu | sidi, i realized something when i was smoking. this is an alpha package, because the kompozer i got from synaptic keeps crashing, but the developer says on the webpage that the alpha is better on linux... so, should i be looking for the old kompozer and overwriting it? | 10:44 |
| mikubuntu | i found two files in /usr/bin , one is kompozer, and the other is kompozer-config ... should i extract to one of those? and leave the box checked that says overwrite existing files? | 10:50 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: im back | 10:53 |
| mikubuntu | k, i freaking out | 10:53 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: there is no logical place, no. Thats the principle of "portable" apps | 10:53 |
| mikubuntu | sidi, i realized something when i was smoking. this is an alpha package, because the kompozer i got from synaptic keeps crashing, but the developer says on the webpage that the alpha is better on linux... so, should i be looking for the old kompozer and overwriting it? | 10:53 |
| mikubuntu | i found two files in /usr/bin , one is kompozer, and the other is kompozer-config ... should i extract to one of those? and leave the box checked that says overwrite existing files? | 10:53 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: you're not going to overwrite anything | 10:53 |
| SiDi | yeh i read you already | 10:53 |
| mikubuntu | now the archive manager is frozen | 10:54 |
| SiDi | you're going to extract it in a place that is in your home. something like /home/yourname/.kompozer/ | 10:54 |
| SiDi | if you really dont wanna see it all the time | 10:54 |
| mikubuntu | well, i don't know what to do now, cause the window is frozen | 10:55 |
| SiDi | then you add a .desktop shortcut (get the /usr/share/applications/whatever.desktop, copy it to .local/share/applications/mykompozer.desktop and change the values inside so that you have a nice menu entry to your custom kompozer) | 10:55 |
| SiDi | hey, its an alpha | 10:55 |
| SiDi | and its a k app, too | 10:55 |
| mikubuntu | it wont' cancel | 10:55 |
| mikubuntu | wont close | 10:55 |
| SiDi | and its a WYSIWYG editor, anyway \o/ | 10:55 |
| knome | SiDi, "the archive manager" ? | 10:55 |
| SiDi | knome: oh | 10:55 |
| knome | start reading ;) | 10:56 |
| * SiDi should drink more coffee. | 10:56 | |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: kill the archive manager, and in firefox's downloaded files window, double click on kompozer it'll reopen the archive | 10:56 |
| mikubuntu | cant kill it, i tried xkill and it din't kill it | 10:59 |
| knome | sudo kill -s kill [pid] | 10:59 |
| mikubuntu | don't know that one, is it sudo kill -s kill [archive manager] ? | 11:00 |
| knome | no, pid is the process id | 11:00 |
| SiDi | pkill file-roller | 11:00 |
| SiDi | actually :p | 11:00 |
| knome | SiDi, :P | 11:01 |
| knome | SiDi, alternative ways | 11:01 |
| mikubuntu | ok, still don't understand | 11:01 |
| SiDi | there are weird things going on in mikubuntu 's computer | 11:01 |
| knome | heh | 11:01 |
| * mikubuntu wonders if its in the computer or in the brain | 11:02 | |
| knome | maybe both | 11:02 |
| mikubuntu | so what is the exact command? | 11:02 |
| knome | 'pkill file-roller' | 11:02 |
| mikubuntu | sudo? | 11:02 |
| knome | SiDi, ? :P | 11:03 |
| jadez03 | sudo get me a sandwhich | 11:03 |
| jadez03 | or gksudo get me a vodka martini | 11:03 |
| mikubuntu | ok, killed | 11:03 |
| SiDi | no sudo | 11:03 |
| knome | jadez03, your username doesn't appear in the sudoers file. this incident will be reported to the system administrator. | 11:03 |
| SiDi | jadez03: you're not a sudoer | 11:03 |
| knome | a related np: Embrace / I Want the World | 11:04 |
| jadez03 | damn you all | 11:04 |
| jadez03 | i just want to get drunk and eat = | 11:04 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: you're on a i386 pc, right ? | 11:04 |
| jadez03 | =\* lol | 11:04 |
| knome | jadez03, you need sudo rights to use the command 'damn' | 11:05 |
| * jadez03 explodes | 11:05 | |
| knome | *puff* | 11:05 |
| mikubuntu | sidi, got the file back up from the download window .... what nex? | 11:05 |
| SiDi | Usage : explode [options] intensity - missing parameter | 11:05 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: put it wherever you want :D it seriously doesnt matter, you'll probably have a deb sooner or later and install that deb | 11:06 |
| knome | mikubuntu, extract it to /home/yourusername/.kompoze | 11:06 |
| knome | !patience | SiDi | 11:07 |
| ubottu | SiDi: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait. | 11:07 |
| knome | ;> | 11:07 |
| jadez03 | ./explode -blood -gore 9001 | 11:07 |
| knome | jadez03, explode: unknown option -blood. use --help to see help. | 11:07 |
| SiDi | !i_already_told_him_to_put_it_there | knome | 11:07 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:07 |
| knome | SiDi, haha. pwned :) | 11:07 |
| jadez03 | :( | 11:08 |
| mikubuntu | knome, ok, so that file doesn't exist, i have to 'create folder'? | 11:08 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: yeh | 11:08 |
| knome | mikubuntu, yes, create the folder and then extract the package there. | 11:09 |
| mikubuntu | doesn't seem to have created a folder | 11:11 |
| knome | mikubuntu, folders or files beginning with . are "hidden" | 11:11 |
| knome | mikubuntu, they don't show up by default, so it's ok, you wouldn't see it | 11:11 |
| mikubuntu | i thought the . was a mistake | 11:11 |
| knome | mikubuntu, press ctrl+h to see the hidden files in a folder | 11:12 |
| mikubuntu | i hit create folder, then i put /kompozer | 11:12 |
| knome | do not add the / | 11:12 |
| mikubuntu | do you see why i am asking for exact instruction, i am not familiar with procedure | 11:12 |
| knome | just "kompozer" or as i suggested ".kompozer" | 11:12 |
| knome | that way you don't see the folder all the time | 11:13 |
| knome | (because you don't have to) :) | 11:13 |
| lean2501 | it looks like i dont have /var/log/everything.log... how can i have it? :) | 11:13 |
| knome | sorry, just ask for more specific instructions if you don't understand something | 11:13 |
| knome | lean2501, "everything.log" ? | 11:13 |
| lean2501 | yes | 11:13 |
| knome | what is that supposed to include? | 11:14 |
| lean2501 | i used arch linux before xubuntu, and it has that everything.log | 11:14 |
| lean2501 | every other logs | 11:14 |
| knome | ubuntu does not have everything.log | 11:14 |
| lean2501 | ah :( | 11:14 |
| lean2501 | so if i want to view things like a mounted usb or things like that, i need messages.log? | 11:14 |
| mikubuntu | ok, it seems to have made a file .kompozer | 11:15 |
| SiDi | lean2501: the person that asked for everything probably meant every file in /var/log ;) | 11:15 |
| mikubuntu | how do i know if it extracted there yet? | 11:15 |
| lean2501 | SiDi: mmm dont understand :P | 11:15 |
| lean2501 | well, i asked in #archlinux and it seems it's distro-specific log, not an standard log, so i'll use messages.log :) insted | 11:19 |
| mikubuntu | omg. it's running. thanks knome and sidi | 11:21 |
| knome | mikubuntu, no problem | 11:22 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: no problem :) | 11:22 |
| knome | lean2501, no problem. | 11:22 |
| mikubuntu | yes, problem... arrrrgggghhhh | 11:27 |
| mikubuntu | now i can't find the templates folder that was there before | 11:27 |
| SiDi | contact the kompozer devs for that :P We can't help you much | 11:28 |
| Laibsch | I have /tmp mounted as tmpfs on my long-running LAN server. df says that 115MB are taken, while find, du, baobab and just about every other tool can only find 14MB of that http://paste.debian.net/40730/ Where are the remaining 100MB? I need to make a bit of room. | 11:29 |
| tavasti | Laibsch, some program creates file, opens it, and then removes it while open. That program can still use that file, and file disappears after program closes | 11:31 |
| mikubuntu | sidi, ok i found it, before i pulled up the hidden files it was up top, now down at the bottom, how do i hide the hidden files? | 11:31 |
| tavasti | and nobody else can see it | 11:31 |
| Laibsch | tavasti: not even root? | 11:31 |
| tavasti | cannot see it on filesystem | 11:31 |
| Laibsch | OK | 11:31 |
| Laibsch | How do I find out which program that might be? | 11:32 |
| tavasti | with 'fuser -mv /tmp' you may see processe which use /tmp | 11:32 |
| SiDi | mikubuntu: ctrl+h | 11:34 |
| Laibsch | What is gconfd-2? It looks like a candidate | 11:34 |
| knome | Laibsch, it's a gnome... configuration tool | 11:35 |
| knome | ...daemon | 11:35 |
| knome | ...two | 11:35 |
| knome | ;) | 11:35 |
| Laibsch | Can I restart it? | 11:35 |
| knome | suppose you can. | 11:35 |
| * Laibsch looks in /etc/init.d | 11:35 | |
| Laibsch | I stopped gdm | 11:36 |
| Laibsch | usage of /tmp has not budged | 11:36 |
| Laibsch | fuser gives me bash, mysql and this gconf thing | 11:37 |
| Laibsch | I restarted mysql, stopped gdm and am looking into bash right now | 11:37 |
| Laibsch | I brute-forced a solution now ;-) | 11:49 |
| Laibsch | Thanks, knome and tavasti | 11:49 |
| knome | Laibsch, no problem. | 11:50 |
| mib486 | im installing xubuntu, and at some point it says "Debootstrap Error" Release Codename impossible to establish | 12:06 |
| mib486 | what does that mean? | 12:06 |
| SiDi | mib486: please check that your CD is well burnt | 12:07 |
| SiDi | There is such an option at thebeginning of the LiveCD "Check disc integrity" | 12:07 |
| mib486 | but is the one ive already used | 12:07 |
| SiDi | hm | 12:07 |
| mib486 | and it worked on the other pc | 12:07 |
| mib486 | could it be it got damaged in 2 mins? | 12:07 |
| SiDi | I dont think so | 12:09 |
| SiDi | Google says either its badly burnt or the driver is having problems reading it | 12:09 |
| mib486 | i just checked it, it says its a valid cd rom | 12:22 |
| mozbuntu | can anyone \help with a new Xbuntu install ? | 12:35 |
| mozbuntu | am I in the right irc channel ? | 12:36 |
| ablomen | mozbuntu, yeah you are :) | 12:36 |
| ablomen | ask away | 12:36 |
| mozbuntu | thanks .. i perfromed an xbuntu install on an old machine that ran [windows ] . it seemdto go ok.. i restarted PC as per install recommendation and ...I got an arror | 12:38 |
| mozbuntu | "Io APIC resources couldnot be allocated " follwed by some more text | 12:38 |
| mozbuntu | *arror= error | 12:38 |
| mozbuntu | Io = IO | 12:39 |
| SiDi | When you booted on the liveCD, it was working ok ? | 12:39 |
| mozbuntu | the machine ran on windows ok , just slow | 12:39 |
| mozbuntu | 866mhz machine with 1.5 Gig memory ram | 12:39 |
| mozbuntu | pentium3 | 12:40 |
| SiDi | I suspect your computer doesnt support APIC | 12:40 |
| SiDi | ok, please boot on the LiveCD then | 12:40 |
| mozbuntu | ok..not sure what APIC is :-( | 12:40 |
| mozbuntu | ok i can boot from xubuntu 9.04? | 12:40 |
| mozbuntu | cd? | 12:40 |
| SiDi | Yes | 12:41 |
| mozbuntu | ok trying that now | 12:41 |
| SiDi | mozbuntu: we will modify the way your fresh Xubuntu install boots, to tell it to ignore APIC | 12:41 |
| SiDi | APIC is some processor stuff, but the Pentium 3 are likely too old to have it | 12:41 |
| SiDi | Tell me when it's booted | 12:42 |
| mozbuntu | booting now | 12:43 |
| mozbuntu | 1min | 12:43 |
| mozbuntu | ok i see the main menu and its booted .. i have the options F1,2,34 ... installXbuntu option etc | 12:44 |
| mozbuntu | check disk for errors .. | 12:44 |
| mozbuntu | test memory etc | 12:44 |
| SiDi | It's a LiveCD or Alternate CD ? | 12:45 |
| mozbuntu | Im not sure .. how can I tell | 12:45 |
| SiDi | (if you dont know then its a liveCD) | 12:45 |
| SiDi | The first option is "try Xubuntu" ? | 12:45 |
| mozbuntu | I used it to install into 2 other machines without hivkup | 12:45 |
| mozbuntu | hickup | 12:45 |
| mozbuntu | no ..there is no "try Xubuntu" | 12:46 |
| mozbuntu | the first option is " install Xubuntu" | 12:46 |
| SiDi | When you installed, it was a text-based install, or with pretty windows ? | 12:46 |
| mozbuntu | it was text based | 12:46 |
| SiDi | ok then it's the Alternate CD. | 12:46 |
| SiDi | Please press Ctrl + Alt + F1 on your keyboard | 12:46 |
| mozbuntu | I didnt realise there were two types | 12:46 |
| mozbuntu | 3 | 12:47 |
| mozbuntu | on the installation machine ? | 12:47 |
| SiDi | From the CD's menu | 12:47 |
| SiDi | This isthe shortcut to go to the console | 12:47 |
| mozbuntu | doesnt seem to do anything | 12:48 |
| mozbuntu | there are 6 x function options below | 12:48 |
| mozbuntu | F keys | 12:48 |
| SiDi | ok, F6 then | 12:49 |
| SiDi | tell me whats in the menu :) | 12:49 |
| mozbuntu | keymaps | 12:49 |
| mozbuntu | language | 12:50 |
| mozbuntu | there doesnt seem to be terminal mode | 12:50 |
| SiDi | ok | 12:50 |
| SiDi | Do you have "Rescue a broken system ?" | 12:51 |
| mozbuntu | i installed the xubuntu and it didnt seem to complain .. except i rebooted from harddiosk | 12:51 |
| mozbuntu | yes i do have rescue broken system optin | 12:51 |
| mozbuntu | select ? | 12:51 |
| mozbuntu | i started it and it seems to check components | 12:52 |
| SiDi | Yes please | 12:52 |
| mozbuntu | i see io apic error in that list | 12:53 |
| SiDi | Ah, interesting | 12:53 |
| mozbuntu | it doesnt seem to recognise the floopy either | 12:53 |
| mozbuntu | and then seem tos go into text installation mode again | 12:53 |
| mozbuntu | 3 | 12:53 |
| SiDi | Does it offer you any option to fix it ? I never used that thing | 12:53 |
| mozbuntu | yes im trying it now | 12:53 |
| mozbuntu | seeing what happens | 12:54 |
| mozbuntu | I thought Xubuntu was most suitable for older machines | 12:54 |
| mozbuntu | GVXc7-4X motherboard | 12:54 |
| mozbuntu | Ill be back .. i need to log off gfor a minute | 12:56 |
| mozbuntu1 | back | 12:58 |
| mozbuntu1 | any luck ? | 12:58 |
| mozbuntu1 | any ideas ? | 12:58 |
| SiDi | Doesnt the installer offer you an option to fix this ? | 12:59 |
| mozbuntu1 | well it now hasd me in a terminal type environment | 12:59 |
| mozbuntu1 | awaiting commands | 12:59 |
| mib486 | in order to disable the APIC u should in the very first install menu select "advanced options" if im not wrong with f6 and then disable the APIC | 13:00 |
| SiDi | What you need to do anyway is to add "noapic nolapic" in the defoptions and altoptions lines of your /boot/grub/menu.lst (and to the already present boot lines) but you need a damn console to acceed this file | 13:00 |
| SiDi | ok great | 13:00 |
| SiDi | sudo fdisk -l (its a L) please | 13:00 |
| SiDi | and tell me the number of the parittion where you installed xubuntu | 13:00 |
| mozbuntu1 | dev/sda/1 = | 13:03 |
| SiDi | okies | 13:03 |
| SiDi | then type this please : "sudo mkdir /media/xubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/xubuntu && cd /media/xubuntu/boot/grub" | 13:03 |
| mozbuntu1 | x | 13:04 |
| SiDi | and then sudo nano menu.lst :D | 13:04 |
| mozbuntu1 | "/dev/sda1 = linux | 13:04 |
| mozbuntu1 | sda2 = ext | 13:04 |
| mozbuntu1 | sda5 = swap | 13:04 |
| SiDi | type the command above | 13:05 |
| SiDi | and tell me if the last one works (the "cd" part) | 13:05 |
| mozbuntu1 | ok | 13:05 |
| mozbuntu1 | i assume space before and after && | 13:10 |
| mozbuntu1 | it looks like 3 commands correct ? | 13:11 |
| mozbuntu1 | is the && at the end or begining ? | 13:12 |
| mozbuntu1 | i am switching between two computers and one screen so thats a full command sequence | 13:12 |
| mozbuntu1 | can i type it in three sections | 13:12 |
| mozbuntu1 | sudo mkdir /media/xubuntu && | 13:13 |
| mozbuntu1 | sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/xubuntu && | 13:13 |
| mozbuntu1 | cd /media/xubuntu/boot/grub | 13:13 |
| mozbuntu1 | ? | 13:13 |
| SiDi | oh sorry | 13:16 |
| SiDi | you can | 13:16 |
| SiDi | type sudo mkdir /media/xubuntu | 13:17 |
| SiDi | then enter | 13:17 |
| mozbuntu1 | "unable to resolve host xubuntu" | 13:17 |
| SiDi | then the next one, enter | 13:17 |
| SiDi | which one does this ? | 13:17 |
| mozbuntu1 | "cannot creat directory /media/xubuntu : File exists " | 13:17 |
| mozbuntu1 | I typed the whol thing as per what u said | 13:18 |
| mozbuntu1 | above are the two replies | 13:18 |
| SiDi | ok | 13:18 |
| SiDi | type now : sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/xubuntu | 13:18 |
| mozbuntu1 | ok | 13:19 |
| mozbuntu1 | 3 | 13:19 |
| mozbuntu1 | says command not found | 13:22 |
| mozbuntu1 | "unable to resolve host xubuntu" | 13:23 |
| mozbuntu1 | correction | 13:23 |
| mozbuntu1 | unable to resolve host ubuntu | 13:23 |
| SiDi | it doesnt make sense | 13:25 |
| SiDi | can you do : cd /media | 13:25 |
| SiDi | and type "ls" | 13:25 |
| mozbuntu1 | can we do something more basic | 13:25 |
| mozbuntu1 | ok | 13:25 |
| mozbuntu1 | "not found " | 13:26 |
| mozbuntu1 | /bin/sh : cd/media : not found | 13:27 |
| mozbuntu1 | 3 | 13:27 |
| mozbuntu1 | its not seeingthe cd ? | 13:27 |
| mozbuntu1 | can we have a look at the drive sda1? | 13:28 |
| SiDi | ok | 13:28 |
| SiDi | thats annoying | 13:28 |
| SiDi | cd /media not cd/media | 13:29 |
| mozbuntu1 | it must have been ok because it installed the xubuntu os | 13:29 |
| mozbuntu1 | oh cd ^ /media | 13:29 |
| SiDi | the install is successful, it just cant boot because your processor doesnt like APIC | 13:30 |
| SiDi | thats funny because APIC comes from Intel, and your Pentium too... | 13:30 |
| SiDi | now that you're in /media, type "ls" please | 13:30 |
| mozbuntu1 | 3 | 13:30 |
| mozbuntu1 | "cdrom cdrom0 flopy flloppy0 xubuntu | 13:31 |
| mozbuntu1 | i perforemd a ls | 13:31 |
| mozbuntu1 | performed | 13:31 |
| SiDi | ok | 13:31 |
| mozbuntu1 | result above : cdrom cdrom0 flopy flloppy0 xubuntu | 13:31 |
| SiDi | cd xubuntu ;) | 13:31 |
| SiDi | now, tell me if "cd boot" works | 13:32 |
| SiDi | (cd is the command to _c_hange _d_irectory) | 13:32 |
| mozbuntu1 | no | 13:32 |
| SiDi | ok | 13:32 |
| SiDi | type "ls" please | 13:32 |
| SiDi | and tell me what you see | 13:32 |
| mozbuntu1 | "cant cd to boot" | 13:33 |
| mozbuntu1 | cd xubuntu works | 13:33 |
| mozbuntu1 | but cd boot ..says cant cd to boot | 13:33 |
| SiDi | I understood. | 13:34 |
| SiDi | type "ls" please | 13:34 |
| SiDi | Alright, nevermind the ls, type this _exactly_ : "cd / && sudo umount /media/xubuntu && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/xubuntu && cd /media/xubuntu && ls" | 13:36 |
| SiDi | and tell me if you see boot among the output of the last command | 13:36 |
| SiDi | if you see the word "boot" it means we're in the system partition, so you'll then do : "nano boot/grub/menu.lst" | 13:38 |
| SiDi | normally a text editor will pop-up, with a NON-empty file | 13:38 |
| SiDi | in this file, search for : # defoptions= .... and add "noapic nolapic" | 13:39 |
| SiDi | then search for : # altoptions=(recovery mode) single and add "noapic nolapic" to the end of this line too | 13:39 |
| SiDi | then, go to the bottom of the file, there are series of lines beginning respectively with "title", "root", "kernel", and "initrd" | 13:39 |
| SiDi | add "noapic nolapic" to all these lines beginning with "kernel" | 13:40 |
| SiDi | then Ctrl + O to save, Ctrl + X to quit | 13:40 |
| SiDi | then you can reboot the computer and remove the CD | 13:40 |
| SiDi | and your computer will work like a charm | 13:40 |
| mozbuntu1 | anyone can help me with a Xubuntu situation | 14:03 |
| mozbuntu1 | ? | 14:04 |
| knome | !ask | mozbuntu1 | 14:05 |
| ubottu | mozbuntu1: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 14:05 |
| mozbuntu1 | SiDi just helped me try and edit grub lst file to ignore APIC but on completing the pc says NTRloader missing ... hit cntrl alt del . What have I done ? | 14:07 |
| knome | that sounds like a windows issue. | 14:08 |
| mozbuntu1 | knome .. i perfromed an xbuntu install on an old machine that ran [windows ] . it seemdto go ok.. i restarted PC as per install recommendation and ...I got an arror | 14:09 |
| mozbuntu1 | (21:38:47) mozbuntu: "Io APIC resources couldnot be allocated " follwed by some more text | 14:09 |
| knome | mozbuntu1, i can read your conversation | 14:09 |
| knome | i somewhat know what you've been doing | 14:09 |
| knome | but the nt(r?)loader sounds like a windows issue. | 14:10 |
| mozbuntu1 | sidi : made me edit the menu.lst file and after that i had the reboot issue | 14:10 |
| mozbuntu1 | ok .. well xubuntu was loaded onto the machine and wiped all windows as far as i can tell .. | 14:10 |
| mozbuntu1 | maybe its trying to boot off the otrher hard drive as there are two | 14:10 |
| mozbuntu1 | mayber my boot order is wrong | 14:11 |
| mozbuntu1 | im testing that now | 14:12 |
| mozbuntu1 | ok so far so good | 14:13 |
| mozbuntu1 | it was booting off drive 1 not drive 2 | 14:13 |
| mozbuntu1 | waiting to see if i fixed the no APIC situation | 14:13 |
| mozbuntu1 | ccc | 14:14 |
| mozbuntu1 | knome it boots but has same io apic error can u help me find that menu.lst file again | 14:16 |
| mozbuntu1 | i have a prompt (initramfs) | 14:16 |
| mozbuntu1 | is this terminal mode ? | 14:16 |
| mozbuntu1 | cd root | 14:17 |
| knome | mozbuntu1, http://paste.ubuntu.com/207506/ | 14:17 |
| mozbuntu1 | thanks .. its says sudo not found | 14:19 |
| mozbuntu1 | when i try it | 14:19 |
| mozbuntu1 | the prompt is one i never have seen | 14:19 |
| mozbuntu1 | (initramfs) | 14:19 |
| mozbuntu1 | do i need to change user type ?? | 14:19 |
| mozbuntu1 | im not experienced enough to know | 14:20 |
| mozbuntu1 | from the xubuntu 9.04 cd can i goo into terminal mode ? | 14:20 |
| mozbuntu1 | its a non live cd | 14:21 |
| jpbaao_ | when trying to run LveCD, it hangs just after the splash screen. I installed using the alternate CD and it does the same. | 14:26 |
| jpbaao_ | Killing splash shows it hangs on init: ttyx main process terminated with status 225 | 14:28 |
| jpbaao_ | it also includes the line "unable to execute '/sbin/getty' for tty1 no such file found" | 14:32 |
| knome | mozbuntu1, ctrl+alt+f1 | 14:40 |
| === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi | ||
| === freego is now known as forces | ||
| michauk_ | hi there, for an asus eeePC 1000*, which xubuntu would you recommand? the official one? something customized for this notebook? thank you | 16:33 |
| michauk_ | I saw eeexubuntu, but it seems to be very old (end of 2007) | 16:33 |
| sowmithry | hi | 16:34 |
| sowmithry | hi | 16:37 |
| R1coch3t | hi hi | 16:38 |
| forces | michauk_, try the official | 16:41 |
| sowmithry | I am unable to set user specific envinorment variables | 16:45 |
| michauk_ | forces: ok, no need to optimize anything, due to the hardware specif. of this notebook? | 16:58 |
| forces | michauk_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC | 17:03 |
| forces | !eeepc | 17:03 |
| ubottu | Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC | 17:03 |
| forces | !eeepc | michauk_ | 17:03 |
| ubottu | michauk_: please see above | 17:03 |
| cemunal | hi | 17:06 |
| cemunal | can i install nvidia driver without jockey? | 17:07 |
| cemunal | i use hardy | 17:08 |
| forces | what is jockey? | 17:11 |
| michauk_ | thank you, i'll check this | 17:13 |
| michauk_ | bye | 17:13 |
| Shmeck | hi there | 18:17 |
| Shmeck | i'm having difficulty using python w/ xubuntu | 18:19 |
| Shmeck | I downloaded the PIL (Imaging Library) as an all platform version needed to be built | 18:19 |
| Shmeck | I am clueless at this point | 18:20 |
| Shmeck | I understood I don't have the python packages needed for building | 18:20 |
| SiDi | Shmeck: what do you wanna do exactly ? | 18:22 |
| SiDi | Shmeck: python-imaging is what you need and is in the repositories, i dont understand why you want to install another version | 18:23 |
| Shmeck | well, I'm used to PIL from windows | 18:23 |
| Shmeck | :) | 18:23 |
| SiDi | you're on linux ;) | 18:25 |
| SiDi | you dont download libs from everywhere, you use those that are available in the repositories | 18:26 |
| SiDi | avoids headaches | 18:26 |
| Shmeck | that fact is beginning to settle soen | 18:26 |
| Shmeck | that fact is beginning to settle down | 18:26 |
| Shmeck | anyway, it's a reminder that I have'nt yet built anything in linux | 18:27 |
| Shmeck | and I absolutly have no idea where to start, is the any piece of literature you could point me to? | 18:27 |
| SiDi | sure | 18:27 |
| SiDi | you could cross read this http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ | 18:28 |
| SiDi | i dont know how you were doing in windows | 18:28 |
| SiDi | basically for python apps its not difficult | 18:28 |
| SiDi | you add #!/usb/bin/python to the first line (it'll tell bash which interpreter should be called when you execute the file) | 18:29 |
| SiDi | and then you make sure its executable (chmod +x filename) | 18:29 |
| SiDi | you write your code | 18:29 |
| SiDi | and you execute it : ./appname | 18:29 |
| Shmeck | great | 18:31 |
| SiDi | http://paste.ubuntu.com/207640/ | 18:32 |
| SiDi | something like that :p | 18:32 |
| SiDi | if you need a lib, install it (python-imaging in your case), and then import imaging (i suppose its the name :p) | 18:32 |
| Shmeck | (it's Image BTW) | 18:34 |
| Shmeck | thanks :) | 18:34 |
| SiDi | you're welcome Shmeck | 18:44 |
| Shmeck | noob question, if using windows I'd write something like this "new_img.save("c:\\a.bmp") ", what is the equivalent in linux? | 18:50 |
| Shmeck | nothing seems to work | 18:50 |
| SiDi | trop new_img.save("/tmp/a.bmp") ? | 18:50 |
| Shmeck | /tmp//a.bmp was ok | 18:52 |
| Shmeck | sorry | 18:52 |
| Shmeck | "//tmp//a.tmp" | 18:52 |
| SiDi | s/trop/try | 18:53 |
| SiDi | i never manipulated files in python :| | 18:53 |
| Shmeck | but //home//username//desktop//a.bmp doesn't | 18:53 |
| Shmeck | oh, it's Desktop and not desktop | 18:55 |
| Shmeck | :P | 18:55 |
| SiDi | :) | 18:58 |
| SiDi | there should be better ways to manipulate files | 18:58 |
| SiDi | you should ask in python :P | 18:59 |
| SiDi | how to get the path of ~, and how to check if a folder exists | 18:59 |
| Shmeck | thanks SiDi :) | 19:01 |
| SiDi | in #python * | 19:05 |
| SiDi | really, i'm having typing trouble tonight | 19:05 |
| khems | Hi, I need help on canadian keyboard issue | 20:36 |
| khems | Anyone who can help me in resolving one of key issue in canadian keyboard | 20:37 |
| SiDi | khems: œ i suppose ? | 20:41 |
| khems | thanks Sidi | 20:42 |
| SiDi | if its that one, then i dont know. | 20:42 |
| SiDi | i suppose you were the one on the development ML | 20:42 |
| khems | oh yes | 20:42 |
| khems | I had sent mail yesterday | 20:43 |
| khems | did you get that mail | 20:43 |
| SiDi | did you contact the xkb devs ? | 20:43 |
| khems | I don't know how to contact them | 20:43 |
| khems | I am trying to find their channel | 20:43 |
| gaurdro | https://listserv.bat.ru:8100/Lists/?Language= | 20:50 |
| khems | thanks gaurd | 20:51 |
| Raggs_ | hi all, i am trying to create a launcher on the xfce panel, but i cant get it to work | 21:51 |
| Raggs_ | i have the command that works in a terminal though | 21:52 |
| R1coch3t | did u rt click on panel? | 21:53 |
| R1coch3t | and select add new item? | 21:53 |
| Raggs_ | yes, i have the new item there, with the right icon, but clicking on it i get the error "Failed to execute child process... (no such file or directory) | 21:54 |
| R1coch3t | rt click on the new launcher and hit properties | 21:55 |
| R1coch3t | u have to tell it what command to executre | 21:55 |
| Raggs_ | right, the command is the issue | 21:55 |
| R1coch3t | execute* | 21:55 |
| Raggs_ | I'm an idiot | 21:56 |
| Raggs_ | DOH! | 21:56 |
| R1coch3t | please elaborate | 21:56 |
| Raggs_ | there is a little box that lets you choose the executable, never noticed it | 21:57 |
| R1coch3t | so all is well now? | 21:58 |
| Raggs_ | yes it is, thanks | 21:58 |
| Raggs_ | a web browser called icecat | 21:58 |
| R1coch3t | ahh ok | 21:58 |
| R1coch3t | how is that? | 21:58 |
| Raggs_ | i like it, seems faster than firefox | 21:59 |
| Raggs_ | R1coch3t, do you know if xubuntu comes with sun java? | 22:00 |
| R1coch3t | no i dont think it does | 22:01 |
| R1coch3t | thats part of the xubuntu-restricted if i remember correctly | 22:01 |
| R1coch3t | xubuntu-restricted package | 22:01 |
| R1coch3t | * | 22:01 |
| R1coch3t | i know i have it tho | 22:01 |
| R1coch3t | well actually i have JDK java | 22:02 |
| Raggs_ | ok, i actually have to have the Sun version | 22:02 |
| R1coch3t | y? | 22:02 |
| Raggs_ | for school | 22:03 |
| R1coch3t | ahh gotcha | 22:03 |
| R1coch3t | well check in synaptic for it | 22:03 |
| R1coch3t | it might be there | 22:04 |
| Raggs_ | R1coch3t, how long have you been using buntu? | 22:05 |
| jadez03 | You're so beautiful, you could be a part time model | 22:06 |
| R1coch3t | almost a year i think, maybe just over a year | 22:06 |
| Raggs_ | ty jadez03 | 22:06 |
| jadez03 | When you're walking down the street, depending on the street, I bet you are definitely, in the top three | 22:06 |
| R1coch3t | and ive only had xubuntu installed | 22:07 |
| R1coch3t | tried ubuntu and kubuntu but didnt like them | 22:07 |
| Raggs_ | R1coch3t, i have been using buntu since the first CD, and also Debian | 22:07 |
| R1coch3t | ahh cool | 22:07 |
| jadez03 | I liked ubuntu but gnome is a memory hog | 22:07 |
| jadez03 | Recently switched to xfce, like it, but I think I'm gonna try LXDE soon | 22:08 |
| R1coch3t | cool | 22:08 |
| Raggs_ | jadez03, depends actually, in Debian gnome is pretty fast | 22:08 |
| R1coch3t | what about enlightenment? | 22:08 |
| Raggs_ | LXDE isnt bad | 22:08 |
| Raggs_ | i havent really used it | 22:08 |
| jadez03 | its faster than any windows install, but with certain apps (my 200gb music collection) gnome loved to hangup | 22:08 |
| R1coch3t | what ap? | 22:09 |
| jadez03 | any music player | 22:09 |
| jadez03 | amarok, audacious, gmusicplayer, etc | 22:09 |
| jadez03 | i tried a bunch | 22:09 |
| R1coch3t | bummer | 22:10 |
| R1coch3t | exaile? | 22:10 |
| jadez03 | no, but they work fine under XFCE ;) | 22:10 |
| R1coch3t | lol | 22:10 |
| R1coch3t | thats all that matters | 22:10 |
| Raggs_ | xfce is fine | 22:10 |
| Raggs_ | hi forces | 22:14 |
| forces | Raggs, o7 | 22:14 |
| Raggs_ | ? | 22:15 |
| S0210 | Hi! Whenever I open a youtube link in my Opera (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUgNZKSQcrk) I see only a big white square. What would be worth to check? | 22:16 |
| Raggs_ | S0210, is flash installed? | 22:16 |
| S0210 | Raggs_: yes | 22:17 |
| S0210 | I should also add that I see *mostly* big white square... | 22:18 |
| Raggs_ | hows it work in Firefox?> | 22:19 |
| S0210 | in Firefox it is OK but I have Flashblock by default | 22:20 |
| Raggs_ | i see, i havent a clue | 22:21 |
| S0210 | the same with me :-> | 22:21 |
| jadez03 | this is ground control to major tom | 22:50 |
| jadez03 | take your protein pills and put your helmet on | 22:50 |
| Raggs_ | jadez03, thats random | 22:56 |
| R1coch3t | is there no longer a switch user? | 23:23 |
| R1coch3t | nvm i got it | 23:30 |
| R1coch3t | just had to add the applet to panel | 23:30 |
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