[00:15] * Riddell snnoz [00:15] * Riddell snoozes [00:32] Riddell: http://shtylman.com/stuff/kubuntu_installer/version2/ <-- implementation of mofux mockup ... which ones these or old do you like? [00:44] shtylman: How much vertical space are you taking up? For kubuntu-netbook we want to install in 576 pixels. [00:52] ScottK: that will be a reach... the center part is 800x600 [00:53] I can aim for 576 ... but that is cutting it very very close on some of the screens [01:16] shtylman: the header is taking up a lot of space, so you can probably save there [01:16] looks beautiful [01:16] text is cut off on the user screen "installatio" [02:01] ScottK: https://edge.launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+archive/staging [02:20] shtylman: Next cycle I'm going to want 480 for MID devices .... So 576 should be relatively quite easy. [02:39] anyone here have porb with kernel 2.6.31-1 ? [02:41] prob* [03:31] ScottK: ... is that really called for? I think at that point a different type of install sequence might be needed... just so you know the current one will NOT got to 480 ... at least not well [03:31] ScottK-desktop: ^ [03:31] shtylman: OK. Well something to be thinking about for karmic +1 then. [03:32] ScottK: will do [03:32] It'll be a distinct flavor if we do it, so DI can be different. [03:32] ubiquity too [03:36] lex79: Uploaded (pim-runtime). Thank you. [03:37] if you have time you can upload also qtcurve :) [03:37] but don't worry we can do later [03:37] Maybe. [03:37] It's getting late here. [03:38] yes [03:38] btw I finished the backport [03:39] tomorro [03:39] Great. [03:39] tomorrow I can copy to ppa backport [03:40] tomorrow or today :) I'm confusing, too many kubuntu time in this days :P [04:42] dude [04:42] s [04:42] ftbfs? [04:56] vorian: what package? [05:24] can anyone help with a sound problem? [09:14] Hi! [09:16] hi [09:19] Riddell: do you know where (i.e. which part of the code) I can start to fix this bug (see the last comment for a screen shot)? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=175020 [09:19] KDE bug 175020 in general "Better volume management in Dolphin" [Wishlist,New] [10:44] hrm, is there some sort of system to tell people what you like about kde? ie. something that is the opposite of a bug? [10:46] umm, no [10:49] perhaps there should be something on LP, like a kudos section [10:50] I think often we tell people to tell us what is wrong with it, and it gets to be a very negative world. perhaps people telling us the things that rock is also a metric to see how things are? [10:51] I think it's a good idea [10:52] it could be quite useful for many projects [10:54] * jussi01 wonders what others think... Riddell you around? [10:54] tsimpson: +1 sounds like a good idea [10:55] perhaps some place for downstream and upstream [10:55] as people saying thanks to Kubuntu probably want to thank KDE as well :-) [10:56] maybe a bug type system, whare you file against a package? in $package, this rocked [10:56] ? [10:58] strange that no one's really thought of that already [10:59] the German ubuntuusers Forum has a thread for people wanting to say "thanks" [11:00] mgraesslin: yeah, the ubuntu forums has a way to thank forumites who help also, but Im thinking more about features in programs, or the waythings are done in kde [11:01] I mean more in a project space, more "official" I guess [11:01] it can also tell devs on what users like, so improve other applications [11:01] exactly [11:06] my wireless is acting up since a recent kernel update [11:06] i think [11:49] lex79: kde-style-qtcurve uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. [11:59] jaunty users needed to test RC 1 https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging [11:59] Sime: ^^ fancy testing? [12:13] Riddell: It looks to me like when you added the COPYING files for kdepim-runtime you just did so in trunk and not also in the 4.3 branch. I think it's needed there too. [12:14] good point [12:16] Riddell: Also the debian-cd changes for kubuntu-netbook are uploaded so we are one RT ticket away from having images. [12:19] excellent [12:48] there's a couple of issues with the -dbg packages: [12:48] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4%3a4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/kde4/kcm_filetypes.so', which is also in package kdebase-dbg [12:49] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-dev_4%3a4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/plugins/designer/ksysguardlsofwidgets.so', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 [12:50] Riddell: ^ [12:50] tsimpson: should people use staging packages freely? [12:50] fooey [12:50] I asked him to test them [12:50] Tm_T: for testing the upgrade only [12:51] sure, so if people starts using them as "the release" I should make noise of it? [12:51] definitely [12:51] just trying to make sure there's no unnecessary breakage for users [12:51] this is just testing before we say they are ready [12:51] aye === gkiagia_ is now known as gkiagia [12:54] got it right there? [12:54] tsimpson: if you do dpkg --instlal --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-dev_4%3a4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4%3a4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2_i386.deb are there any more? [12:54] Riddell: no more errors so far [12:55] grrr... pioneers has stopped working... no more procrastination!!!!!!! [12:55] jussi01: noooooo [12:57] Tm_T: its a disaster!! [13:00] Riddell: a few more overwrite errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/208080/ [13:02] ok [13:04] bug 198650 [13:04] Launchpad bug 198650 in deskbar-applet "Deskbar Applet crashes when typing "gk" as a query and selecting Admin-Terminal to start... (dup-of: 154428)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198650 [13:04] Launchpad bug 154428 in deskbar-applet "deskbar-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in gnome_desktop_item_launch_on_screen_with_env()" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154428 [13:04] erm [13:04] no bugs.kde here i see [13:05] kde bug 198650 [13:05] KDE bug 198650 in general "Make Queue Track first item in right-click menu" [Normal,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198650 [13:05] oh nice :) thanks [13:05] Riddell: no other issues installing [13:05] wireless acting up for me [13:08] NCommander: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegames/4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1/+build/1102238/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.kdegames_4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz looks like a build failure with your name on it (KDE 4.3 RC1, so time to get fixing). [13:09] hello, just wish to say that the upgrade to KDE 4.3 RC1 (from testing repo) went well, did kill the X server, but after reboot everything looks good :) [13:14] great thanks gorgonizer [13:15] Riddell: is there a changelog from beta -> RC 1? [13:15] The X crash seemed to occur during the dist-upgrade part of the process (I ran it from the CLI), not sure if that helps.. [13:15] NCommander: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4.5.2-0ubuntu1/+build/1097116/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-armel.qt4-x11_4.5.2-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz too. I did retry it once already and it failed identically both times. [13:16] jussi01: probably. on kde.org [13:16] Riddell: super, thanks.. goes to looks [13:16] Riddell: also, did you see my suggestin earlier, and if so, have you an opinion? [13:17] Riddell: Don't know if you saw in #kubuntu. I upgraded two machines and on both X bombed out, but again after monitoring the update on a console and a reboot it looks fine [13:18] i had problems with the new kernel from yesterday which ment X wouldn't work i'm currently using the pervious kernel [13:18] i get blue screen with lines [13:21] this X killing is quite worrying [13:23] Riddell: from looking at my apt logs, the crash occurred whilst installing kdebase-workspace packages and kdm.. [13:24] I also have Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not responding to TERM signal in the log [13:24] I doubt we've changed anything in the postinst scripts there [13:26] I have nothing for workspace [13:26] But later on during the upgrade I do have: [13:26] Preparing to replace kdm 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2 (using .../kdm_4%3a4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1_amd64.deb) ... [13:26] Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not responding to TERM signal (pid 3582). [13:28] Trouble: no plasmoids on your workspace? [13:28] It seems I had a kernel update this morning, but hadn't rebooted [13:29] DreadKnight: No plasmoids, except Folder View [13:29] Trouble: the RC made some shitty new empty workspace... [13:29] and really confused me [13:30] workspaces vs virtual desktops are a bit annoying [13:30] one workspace for one desktop is a shitty option, too obscure somehow [13:31] i hate the workspace view atm; but i understand it's far from finished [13:31] wish it would had a damn black background or even white, that grid is annoying and fugly [13:33] i should make some mockup in near future [13:35] seems all my KDE settings were reset [13:36] grrr [13:36] Screen corruption and a hang [13:36] Reboot and I'm back [13:37] Back on kernel 2.6.28-11 now [13:37] 2.6.28-13-generic (64bit) here, no issues thus far.. [13:38] from what I can tell, all KDE settings and plasmoids remained from 4.3 Beta 2 after upgrade. [13:39] ryanakca_: Hi. Do you intend to package pem as in http://bugs.debian.org/500100 ? [13:39] not from 4.2.4 it seems [13:39] tsimpson: I updated from 4.3 beta 2 and I've got my settings [13:40] tsimpson: iirc I lost settings when I went from 4.2 to 4.3 Beta 1.. [13:40] ryanakca_: ECHAN => #d-d-fr [13:41] I didn't lose my settings from 4.2.4 to 4.3 beta 1 [13:41] I lost my theme, wallpaper and plasmoid settings at least [13:41] haven't checked all the rest [13:41] I've just turned my Desktop Effects back off [13:42] tsimpson: Ahh, I had the default theme, wallpaper and plasmoid settings ;-) [13:47] tsimpson: that's the plasmarc -> plasma-desktoprc issue [13:47] surprised upstream hasn't sorted that [13:48] the choice of default plasmoids is interesting, "Microblogging", "Folder View" and "openDesktop" [13:49] and openDesktop immediately opens a dialog asking for a username/password, with it not being obvious what it's about [13:49] There are some redrawing issues too. One of my Konsole windows doesn't have any decorations. Though they flash when I hover over them. Might be having stopped Desktop Effects within KDE and not logging out and in [13:51] other than that, everything seems to be ok [13:53] ooh, sub-menus under internet. that makes things less cluttered [13:57] Is it normal for the following in /var/log/dkpg.log [13:57] packages uploaded to fix overwrite issues [13:57] 2009-07-02 13:05:27 status half-installed kdm 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2 [13:57] 2009-07-02 13:05:28 status unpacked kdm 4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 [13:57] 2009-07-02 13:05:28 status unpacked kdm 4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 [13:57] 2009-07-02 13:05:52 configure kdm 4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 [13:57] 2009-07-02 13:05:52 status unpacked kdm 4:4.2.95-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1 [13:57] (last line repeated 14 times) [14:01] Trouble: yes [14:01] Thanks. I rarely look in dpkg :) [14:07] Riddell: could you please sponsor gtk2-engines-qtcurve from bzr? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/gtk2-engines-qtcurve/ubuntu [14:07] k [14:08] thx [14:10] uploaded [14:26] uh, did kde 4.3 get rid of the option to rebuild the imap index & cache for the entire account? ive got one account showing the folder list that belongs to a different account [14:28] JontheEchidna: ping [14:28] Quintasan: pong [14:29] JontheEchidna: the RC1 will be put in kubuntu-experimental as usual? [14:29] JontheEchidna: also about translation, do you know the deadline? [14:29] * JontheEchidna has been out of it with a nasty sinus infection for most of the packaging cycle [14:30] :< [14:30] * Quintasan pats JontheEchidna [14:30] will koffice-2.0.1 go to the official backports? [14:30] Quintasan: so to answer the question, I know they're staging the update in the kubuntu-ppa/staging repo, but beyond that I don't know that much [14:31] while it is in the backports ppa you cannot install it without using 4.3 beta, some users complained about it [14:31] Quintasan: final deadline for Ubuntu translations is the 15th [14:31] ...of October [14:32] oh [14:32] means I still have time :P [14:32] quite [14:32] I don't know if they've even opened translation for karmic yet [14:32] they are soon if they haven't done so already [14:32] JontheEchidna: they haven't been opened yet, but soon [14:33] neversfelde: I'd file a request, I see no reason it shouldn't [14:33] JontheEchidna: thank you [14:33] * Quintasan wonders when AcetoneISO upstream will respond [14:33] bbl, going to the neighbors to feed their pets [15:14] * Daskreech can't get the openDesktop plasmoid working [15:26] Are there packages for 4.3-rc1? [15:26] jaunty [15:26] sebas: in the staging repo atm [15:27] jussi01: those go into backports then? [15:27] sebas: yeah, after the testing is doen [15:27] k, what's the sources.list entry for the staging repo? === mgraesslin_ is now known as mgraesslin [15:28] sebas: look here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/staging [15:28] Cool, thanks :) [15:29] sebas: Remember they are for testing, and there have been a few installation problems reported. Remember to take the entry out of sources.list when you've finished [15:30] Trouble: sure, I can deal with that :) [15:30] THanks for the warning though [15:30] sebas: Watch out for X bombing in the middle of the installation ;-) [15:30] Trouble: sebas is a superstar :D [15:31] X bombing, that would be odd, but not quite unexpected :) [15:31] jussi01: hah! [15:31] :D [15:31] is there an estimation when we will have the packages in backports? [15:32] if not I'll try the staging repo as well :-D [15:32] mgraesslin: how long is a peice of string? === lool- is now known as lool [15:51] huh, libc gets upgraded [15:51] Updated my KDE RC1 with the latest builds and along comes KDM and X bombs again :D [15:52] I'll watch any further KDM updates [15:54] ScottK: I lied... the center piece is 750x550 so it meets your requirements :) [15:55] * shtylman_ always trembles in fear when libc get upgraded [15:56] * Quintasan trembles in fear at KDM updates [15:56] :P [15:56] indeed ... but I figure I can always just startx ... but if libc fails... well then... [16:04] so do I move rc 1 to backports or not..? [16:05] haloa :) [16:09] lex79: packages all work but KDM seems to get killed during upgrade [16:09] sami issue in karmic [16:10] now is fixed ? [16:10] *same [16:11] not fixed [16:11] don't know what's up with it [16:12] I remember there was also in beta2 [16:13] argh, I can't use kde 4 :/ [16:13] wonder if it's something in the merges [16:13] well it's only an RC, I'll copy it over and put a bit warning on the page [16:14] GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING NINJAS! [16:14] nixternal: \o [16:14] \o [16:14] * Quintasan wonders why KDE 4 is so slow for him [16:14] the archives are crawling this morning [16:14] shtylman_: Great. That should do nicely. [16:17] Just installed KDE 4.3 RC in Koala [16:17] Bad idea? [16:18] instructor: why would it be bad? [16:18] I've updated 2 machines a total of 3 times (including KDM) and X has bombed each time :) [16:18] instructor: How did it go? [16:19] killed X [16:19] kdm says restart is not a known option [16:19] kdm stop says / is busy [16:19] Riddell: It seems a pretty consisten pattern now. [16:20] startx seems to work well [16:20] does indeed [16:21] I did a sync, and then kdm stop; kdm start [16:21] Oh you had file system erors as well? [16:21] http://shtylman.com/stuff/kubuntu_installer/version3/ [16:21] I could just get bash to start first time the computer rebooted [16:21] I had it report some Ext issue.. [16:22] "couldn't read superblock [16:22] which was weird. [16:22] rgreening: We are very close to netbook images. Is the USB creator uploaded yet? [16:23] rgreening: same here and there was no existence of /dev/null [16:23] instructor: I'm looking at the init and it definitely has restart. [16:23] and bash couldn't find any start up files except /etc/bash_profile [16:23] ScottK: In my PPA. [16:23] rgreening: OK. How soon to have it in the archive? [16:24] ScottK: my /etc/init.d/kdm is a binary file [16:24] it matches though [16:25] as in grep finds a match for restart in it [16:26] instructor: line 132 is where it starts. [16:26] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/annotate/head:/debian/kdm.init [16:26] ScottK: It's a blob for me [16:26] Anyone had X get killed on Jaunty from the PPA? [16:26] kdm puked again [16:26] ewww [16:26] ScottK: evand is rewriting some backend bits to move to devicekit-disks (replacing HAL) [16:27] ScottK: so, it will take a bit longer for that to hit main. for now my PPA is only available [16:27] rgreening: Can we get something in the interim? [16:27] actually I can cat it. It's only 88 lines long ScottK [16:27] No wait it's 89 with some weird null symbol in line 89 [16:27] ScottK: not afaik. evand needs to concentrate on fixing the backend. it's critical [16:27] should I pastebin it? [16:28] rgreening: OK. [16:28] instructor: Is it different than the link I pointed you to. [16:28] ScottK: oh not sure hold on [16:28] let me wget it [16:30] ScottK: They have different md5sums [16:31] instructor: If you wget the web page that'll happen. [16:31] ScottK: one is 1268 lines long [16:31] ah of course :) [16:31] Pastebin what you have. [16:31] If you aren't sure [16:32] * Sime starts moving in the direction of GCDS. [16:33] ScottK: I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's differnt [16:33] OK. Pastebin please [16:35] http://pastebin.com/f703e6058<< KDM.init http://pastebin.com/f4c473a78 << /etc/init.d/kdm [16:35] ScottK: ^^^^ [16:37] instructor: What architecture are you running? [16:38] i386 [16:38] i686 as reported by uname [16:39] I dont know if there was a kernel being installed at the same time helped cause the errors [16:40] OK. [16:41] If I copy out the essence of the page to etc/init.d/kdm it should work? [16:43] It should. http://pastebin.com/f1bfad3bc is what is shipped in the .deb. [16:43] Riddell: It looks like his init is corrupted and is not what is shipped in our .deb. [16:44] instructor: Here's another idea .... [16:44] instructor: wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28627342/kdm_4.2.95-0ubuntu2_i386.deb and then sudo dpkg -i kdm_4.2.95-0ubuntu2_i386.deb [16:50] ScottK: Apparently kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins is missing [16:51] has anyone pointed out that kdewallpapers wants to overwrite a file that belongs to another package yet? [16:52] maco: I don't think so. [16:53] maco: which file? [16:53] /usr/share/wallpapers/Blue_Curl/contents/images/1280x800.jpg [16:53] it belongs to kdebase-workspace-wallpapers [16:54] maco: What was the error message (it will also tell what package it used to be in)? [16:54] did i just answer that? [16:54] i think our messages collided mid-umm.......mid-internet [16:55] or was that not the response you wanted? [16:55] No. [16:55] trying to overwrite `/usr/share/wallpapers/Blue_Curl/contents/images/1280x800.jpg', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-wallpapers [16:55] That's the one. [16:56] And which package was being installed at the time? [16:56] kdewallpapers 4:4.2.90-0ubuntu1 [16:56] OK. [16:59] is fixed in kdeartwork 0buntu2 [16:59] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork [17:00] maco: ^^ [17:01] is that in the archive yet? [17:01] yes [17:02] wow 121 updates in the last 14 hours [17:03] We've been busy [17:13] rgreening: How does your /etc/init.d/kdm look? [17:13] ScottK: checking [17:14] * Trouble` is about to upgrade his third 4.3 beta 2 machine [17:15] ScottK: looks normal to me. something in particular I need ot search for? [17:15] did you see instructor's pastebin? [17:15] It looks like his got corrupted somehow [17:16] my init http://paste.ubuntu.com/208248/ [17:17] ScottK: nope, my kdm same as stock. [17:18] Hmm. [17:18] he has diff issue... perhaps using Ext4 and had a sync issue... [17:18] Perhaps. [17:18] instructor: You definitely need to reinstall kdm. [17:18] is there any simple documentation to kde settings systems [17:19] ScottK: Can't relies on kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugins [17:19] ie. what happens when you save/read settings and how do you do it [17:19] anyone have issues with the new kernel at all? [17:19] Ubuntu is fine but my Kubuntu box will not boot [17:19] Which needs kdebase-workspace [17:20] instructor: reinstall kdm the way I said (with dpkg -i) and then do sudo apt-get -f install [17:20] nixternal, tunnel interfaces are broken [17:20] ScottK: did all t hat [17:20] won't install [17:20] Pastebin the error message [17:21] maco: is that causing usplash not to come up? [17:21] Actually pastebin everything you got told. [17:21] i wasnt watching when 2.6.31 booted [17:21] actually it is more than that, because it gets to the part where the screen gets smaller and then goes black [17:21] it is causing openvpn to be broken [17:21] thanks for the RC packages - great job :-D [17:21] well, i can't even boot with the new kernel [17:21] fun fun [17:22] * JontheEchidna wonders if anybody has packaged aurorae yet [17:23] JontheEchidna: nobody has told me to update the links on kde-look.org so I guess no [17:28] KDM bombed out again *sniff* [17:28] ScottK: http://pastebin.com/f1b632446 [17:29] instructor: That looks like it installed. === dpm is now known as dpm-afk [17:30] ScottK: ok apt-get -f install is handling the kdebase-workspace-bin error now [17:32] mgraesslin: could you please include COPYING in the tarball? [17:32] nixternal, it did kernel panic just after login for me on the first boot [17:32] JontheEchidna: what do you need in COPYING? [17:32] a copy of the GPL [17:32] complete license or just author information? [17:32] ok [17:33] /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 [17:33] I'll prepare a new package with commits from svn [17:33] cool, thanks [17:35] anyone else have problems starting up kopete? [17:37] ScottK: http://pastebin.com/f4570f8ab [17:38] * JontheEchidna testbuilds the package [17:38] ScottK: yes it installed [17:38] instructor: Using ext4? [17:39] ScottK: umm hold on I forget :-) [17:39] Nope [17:39] eek. updates have filled / [17:39] i just did an apt-get clean last night :( [17:40] instructor: OK. It looks like you've got some kind of corruption issue going on. I'd suggest hand downloading and installing the .deb for each package that has an error there. [17:40] maybe you have a lot of old kernels installed taking up disk space? [17:40] maco: ^ [17:40] oooo yeah... [17:40] that's what usually happens to me [17:41] though /var being 1gb on its own seems rather high too [17:41] instructor: I think libtidy-0.99-0 and libqjson0 [17:41] baobab says /boot is only 84mb [17:42] i do find it interesting that df -h says my / is 9.2gb, 8.8gb in use, 0.0 available [17:42] something about that math seems strange [17:44] JontheEchidna: new tarball is uploaded [17:45] mgraesslin: thanks [17:45] JontheEchidna, ooooh i see why i am lately able to fill a 10gb / ...back when 10gb was enough to hold everything, i didnt install tons of -dev and -dbg packages [17:45] /usr/lib/debug is 1.2gb on its own [17:46] * JontheEchidna bumped his up to 12 [17:49] X feels very very slow :( [17:54] who was saying plasma-desktop crashed a lot? i change my mind. i agree with them. [18:01] maco: I can't tell if it crashes. I know that X starts moving very slowly then I kernel panic [18:10] mgraesslin: looks like a 4 hour wait: https://edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/+archive/ppa [18:11] ooo new theme! [18:11] it has stripes... [18:14] sexy: http://imagebin.ca/view/hXA3W2nZ.html [18:14] ScottK: seems back on track now. I removed those two packages and dropped them from the cache and everything else installs fine without them [18:15] hmm, jpeg makes my fonts look horrible [18:16] JontheEchidna, your panel doesnt appear to have diagonal stripes of higher opacity like mine does [18:16] i like that kwin theme [18:17] kinda makes me wish my wm had borders [18:17] * JontheEchidna might have an old version of the panel theme hanging around [18:17] JontheEchidna: sad so I can [18:17] 't test today :-( [18:21] anybody wanna revu the package? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kwin-style-aurorae [18:22] * vorian has a free moment [18:22] thanks [18:23] oh, wow: kwin-style-aurorae_0.1.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz 1337 Bytes [18:23] the packaging is exactly 1337 bytes [18:23] it's a sign [18:23] WIN [18:27] now this is sick http://imagebin.ca/view/zdZVZE.html [18:27] JontheEchidna: good from me [18:28] now we must upload it and never update it so that it always stays 1337 bytes [18:28]