[00:03] <thumper> mxpxpod: part of what you are talking about are sub-trees in a bazaar branch
[00:03] <thumper> mxpxpod: there has been some work on this recently, but not yet production ready
[00:03] <mxpxpod> thumper: oh, really?
[00:03] <mxpxpod> thumper: gotcha
[00:04] <thumper> mxpxpod: as in you have a branch, and inside there you say src/foo is actually lp:foo
[00:04] <thumper> mxpxpod: so when someone gets your branch, it goes and gets the other branch too
[00:04] <thumper> hence, sub-trees
[00:04] <mxpxpod> thumper: yeah, something like that... sort of like svn:externals
[00:04] <thumper> right
[00:04] <thumper> see #bzr for status
[00:13] <wgrant> beuno: Are you aware that while project custom icons are fixed, project groups are still broken?
[00:14] <beuno> wgrant, I am not
[00:14] <beuno> file it and I'll fix it
[00:14] <beuno> assign directly to me  :)
[00:14] <beuno> thanks wgrant
[00:16] <wgrant> Why are the comment numbers, which are perhaps the least interesting information about the comment, in the prime position in the header?
[00:16] <wgrant> And why does that use a table?
[00:17] <beuno> wgrant, comment numbers are used so people can refer to them
[00:17] <beuno> no idea about the table
[00:17] <wgrant> beuno: They make it harder to quickly scan down the list of comments, looking for interesting ones by a certain person.
[00:17] <beuno> it seems to be using up too much space
[00:17] <wgrant> And I need to know them maybe a few times a month.
[00:17] <beuno> yeah, the activity loos broken
[00:18] <beuno> wgrant, file it as well, we need to have another iteration over this!  :)
[00:18] <wgrant> I think those changes also broke lots of other stuff.
[00:18] <wgrant> Because the padding changed.
[00:18] <beuno> it did
[00:18] <wgrant> And two other places use boardComment, although one only started doing so yesterday IIRC>
[00:18] <beuno> thumper's sad
[00:18] <beuno> yeap
[00:19] <beuno> anyway
[00:19] <beuno> I'm off to dinner
[00:19] <wgrant> Sure, thanks.
[00:19] <beuno> but we absolutely need to nail this
[00:19] <beuno> so thanks for bringing it up
[00:19] <beuno> (hadn't seen it live)
[00:19] <wgrant> Against where shall I file the padding bug? It affects soyuz/launchpad-code, but is probably a malone bug.
[00:19] <beuno> wgrant, malone is probably best
[00:19] <beuno> if in doubt
[00:19] <beuno> foundations!
[00:19] <wgrant> You mean launchpad?
[00:20] <wgrant> I'm not sure why foundations would want it. So malone it is.
[00:57] <jercos> Hi, I just recieved a bug on one of my projects that I can't quite describe as spam... but it basically went "Hi, I'm Alejandra and I need friends"
[00:58] <jercos> I didn't see any "delete bug" or "report creator" buttong :-\
[00:58] <jercos> -g
[01:00] <nhandler> jercos: You can't delete it, but you can mark it as 'Invalid' so that it does not show up in most listings
[01:01] <nhandler> jercos: If you post a link to the user's profile, the LP admins can decide how to handle it
[01:01] <jercos> So, add an Invalid tag?
[01:01] <nhandler> jercos: No, change the status
[01:03] <jercos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~aleja-1991-01
[01:04] <jercos> actual bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/artemis/+bug/394083
[01:32] <spiv> Huh, I just logged into to launchpad, but the pages afterwards are still asking me to log in/register.
[01:33] <spiv> Hmm, it worked the second time.
[01:35] <wgrant> spiv: edge redirect
[01:35] <wgrant> Bug #160191
[01:37] <wgrant> Why are there so few amd64 buildds?
[01:38] <wgrant> The queue is quickly getting longer.
[01:45] <spiv> wgrant: hmm, yes, I guess that's it, I initially loaded LP via a link in an email.
[06:25] <yoli> Enter text here...hola
[06:39] <andersk> Does anyone understand why this build failed? https://launchpad.net/~anders-kaseorg/+archive/openafs/+build/1102715
[06:40] <andersk> The upload log claims "Upload was rejected: debhelper_7.0.13ubuntu1~dapper1~andersk3_all.deb control file lists section as main/ but changes file has main/devel."
[06:40] <wgrant> andersk: The control file in your binary is broken.
[06:40]  * wgrant inspects the source and build log.
[09:02] <kblin> hi folks
[09:03] <kblin> I seem to remember some talk about open-sourcing launchpad "pretty soon now" some while ago.. did I miss the announcement or has this not happened yet
[09:03] <tsimpson> kblin: the link in the topic has the information
[09:04] <kblin> d'oh, missed that one
[09:04] <kblin> thanks
[09:06] <dholbach> hiya
[09:06] <popey> morning :)
[09:06] <dholbach> until https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+bug/393914 is fixed, could somebody please set ~locoteams to "restricted"?
[09:06] <dholbach> we get a people who want to (pointlessly) join the team :)
[09:07] <dholbach> popey said that LP oopses out, when he tries to set it manually
[09:07] <popey> i see lp has been updated
[09:08] <popey> will try again as i haven't done so in a week or so
[09:08] <popey> will wait till I am off 3g though first
[09:08] <popey> 30 mins
[09:09] <dholbach> popey: let me try and see if I can do it
[09:09] <dholbach> popey:  "6165 member(s)  have not set their location. Do it for them!"
[09:09] <dholbach> holy COW :)
[09:09] <dholbach> popey: ah no, can't change it, I'm not owner
[09:10] <dholbach> popey: I guess I don't need to be admin either
[09:15] <dstansby> Is anyone else having trouble using launchpad at the moment?
[09:18] <wgrant> dstansby: It's working OK for me.
[09:18] <dstansby> I'm using the beta version if that makes a difference
[09:18] <dstansby> It's just that I've been trying to subscribe someone else to a bug for about 10mins now and it's not working  :(
[09:20] <wgrant> dstansby: Ah, there are a few problems in the subscription area. Who are you trying to subscribe?
[09:20] <dstansby> wgrant: ubuntu-main-sponsors
[09:20] <dstansby> It seems to have worked now though
[09:20] <wgrant> And what happens when you try?
[09:22] <dstansby> It either didn't work at all, and came up with an error box that didn't provide any useful info and an OK button, or the team came up under subscribers, but was greyed out and wansn't subscribed
[09:28] <wgrant> dstansby: Hmm, you're right, edge is a bit broken.
[09:39] <popey> (Error ID: OOPS-1279EB60)
[09:50] <popey> dholbach: (Error ID: OOPS-1279EC65) when i tried to switch ~locoteams to restricted
[09:56] <dholbach> popey: let's wait for the fine masters of LP to fix it then :)
[10:08] <rmaj> hello, i get a timeout - (Error ID: OOPS-1279D2101)
[10:12] <rmaj> I guess my search was too wide
[10:13] <mdz> I'm getting quite a few "Please try again" pages
[10:14] <bigjools> elmo: ^
[10:14] <bigjools> mdz: is that on edge?
[10:14] <mdz> bigjools, yes
[10:14] <mdz> just got another
[10:15] <mdz> Please try again
[10:15] <mdz> Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[10:15] <mdz> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[10:15] <mdz> Thanks for your patience.
[10:15] <mdz> what does that page mean in terms of where the failure occurred?
[10:15] <wgrant> It generally means that an appserver has hung.
[10:16] <wgrant> Or, given the frequency of them that I've been seeing, several.
[10:17] <bigjools> rmaj: that looks like a spurious timeout, I can't see anything wrong other than a slow database response, is it still doing it?
[10:18] <bigjools> wgrant: that's my guess too
[10:20] <wgrant> bigjools: Any idea what's going on with empty PPA sections sometimes showing up?
[10:20] <bigjools> wgrant: no, I am going to debug it shortly
[10:20] <wgrant> I wonder if it's private archive subscriptions.
[10:21] <bigjools> I doubt it
[10:21] <wgrant> Since the sort of people that I'd expect to have them show the problem.
[10:48] <mdz> bigjools, yes, it's still doing it.  is anyone responding?
[11:03] <nailora> i am getting lots of "Please try again                    Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.         " recently
[11:03] <nailora> a known problem?
[11:17] <rmaj> bigjools: I get this all the time
[11:17] <bigjools> nailora: yes, known problem if you're using the edge servers
[11:18] <bigjools> rmaj: ok thanks
[11:18] <rmaj> well, like 2 out of 4 tries
[11:22] <dholbach> bigjools: I guess a "502 Bad Gateway" using edge for the LP API might have the same cause?
[11:22] <bigjools> dholbach: yes
[11:27] <dholbach> oh... the "don't redirect me to edge for 2 hours" button is gone
[11:28] <dholbach> does anybody have the link to that button? :)
[11:28] <wgrant> dholbach: https://launchpad.net/
[11:28] <dholbach> ah ok
[11:28] <wgrant> It doesn't show up on https://edge.launchpad.net/
[11:28] <dholbach> yeah, I just noticed :-)
[11:28] <dholbach> thanks
[11:28] <bigjools> heh, there's a bug to put that button on the edge front page too
[11:30] <wgrant> Bug #391208
[11:30] <dholbach> wgrant knows Launchpad bug numbers by heart
[11:30] <dholbach> that's amazing
[11:30] <bigjools> he's our groupie
[11:31] <dholbach> I mean it's easy... Launchpad doesn't have that many bugs
[11:31] <wgrant> dholbach: 'fraid I just have Evo's search feature.
[11:31] <dholbach> but pedro_ and seb128 are killer: they know all desktop bug numbers, no matter if it's ubuntu, debian or gnome upstream by heart
[11:31] <bigjools> dholbach: haha :)
[11:31] <dholbach> even the old ones that are already fixed
[11:32]  * dholbach hugs y'all
[11:41] <oSoMoN> hi all
[11:42] <mrevell> hi oSoMoN
[11:42] <wgrant> mrevell: Might it be advisable to recommend turning off the redirect in the topic?
[11:43] <mrevell> wgrant: Yeah, good idea
[11:46] <dholbach> disable the redirection? :)
[11:47] <wgrant> He got it right on identi.ca.
[11:51] <mrevell> doh
[12:06] <Ferzzz> Was there a problem with the API of launchpad this morning?
[12:07] <Ferzzz> We got plenty of 502 and 503 while trying to create bugs...
[12:08] <wgrant> Ferzzz: Yep. See the topic.
[12:09] <Ferzzz> Great. It's fixed now, but I justed wanted a confimation. Thanks a lot
[12:10] <Ferzzz> Cheers!
[12:15] <holzmodem> hi, need some help, how can i build a patched kernel inside a ppa, that does NOT over the original one? all my patched kernels override the original, so i cant fallback
[12:18] <tsimpson> holzmodem: you'll get better support on packaging in #ubuntu-motu
[12:18] <holzmodem> thanks
[13:20] <Hew> Hi. I need admin support for changing the bugtracker for the revelation project.
[13:42] <mrevell> Hew: Please file a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/answers and one of the admins will take care of it.
[13:42] <wgrant> mrevell: You mean https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad?
[13:42] <mrevell> Ach, yes
[13:43] <mrevell> Hew: As wgrant says, that's https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[14:19] <Laney> what's the rationale behind displaying PPA packages on source package pages?
[14:19] <Laney> especially in such a prominent position
[14:19] <noodles775> Hi Laney, it's still a work in progress...
[14:19] <noodles775> I'm actually working on a branch right now to make it much less prominent...
[14:19] <noodles775> (ie. it'll be a collapsed section that will only be expanded if you click)
[14:20] <Laney> fair enough. Have you had requests for this? I can't think of a use case
[14:20] <noodles775> Laney, yes, the discussion is on bug 280958
[14:21] <noodles775> And if you've got time for a bit of feedback, the last comment there has a 5second video showing the new less-prominent version...
[14:24] <Laney> noodles775: That's much better. I find myself agreeing with Scott's comments though, give how PPAs are used.
[14:25] <Laney> For example I sometimes upload random testing uploads that have a high chance of being broken and I'd hate to hear of someone stumbling across and using them...
[14:25] <noodles775> Laney: great. Thanks for the feedback.
[14:25] <noodles775> Yes, eventually they will be ordered by *rank*
[14:26] <noodles775> And that will definitely be an issue until we have ranks (hence trying to be clear about it in the text, that it's ordered by most recently uploaded)
[14:27] <noodles775> I'm finding that one of the hardest things with Launchpad UI is that there are two very distinct target user groups with very different expectations...
[14:27] <Laney> I can kind of only see the potential pain and not the benefits. People should only use PPAs if they know why they want to, which is why they're useful when promoted alongside blog posts and the like
[14:28] <Laney> as a developer I don't see why I want this
[14:28] <Laney> mpt argues for consistency across parts of launchpad, but it's often the case that bzr branches are used very differently from PPAs
[14:29] <mpt> Laney, I'm asking for consistency between the same type of item on *the same page* :-P
[14:30] <noodles775> Laney: I think that's the key thing though, it isn't developers who *would* want this...
[14:30] <Laney> OK consider the recent pidgin bug where Yahoo! was broken
[14:31] <Laney> it's reasonable to think that users would somehow find the Launchpad source package page for this when looking for a solution
[14:31] <noodles775> Yes, hence the bold "untrusted and unsupported"
[14:31] <Laney> now what if I upload a package which does rm -rf /....
[14:31] <Laney> I doubt that this will defer people
[14:31] <noodles775> Yep, that's a general problem with any .deb that gets installed on a users system right?
[14:31] <Laney> deter*
[14:31] <Laney> right, but we don't promote them
[14:32] <noodles775> We haven't, but people are doing it non-the-less...
[14:32] <Laney> there's a difference between the gun existing and us showing you where it is
[14:32] <noodles775> So if it's between installing a deb of the latest blah package or installing the beta-ppa....
[14:33] <Laney> anyway maybe PPA ranking does solve this, I don't know what it is
[14:33] <noodles775> Laney, yep, I agree, but is there an option to show people how to best use one (a gun is a bad example...)
[14:33] <noodles775> Yes, hopefully.
[14:34] <noodles775> Laney: btw, I've been thinking about the concept of 'trusted software archives' lately, if you're interested and have time:
[14:34] <noodles775> http://micknelson.wordpress.com/2009/06/02/trusted-software-archives/
[14:34] <noodles775> I'm relatively new to packaging etc., but am keen to learn and help find a good long-term solution to the problem.
[14:38] <Laney> I don't know, it's a very difficult problem. The way it works in Ubuntu is to prove yourself with several months of good work, after which your peers will have enough knowledge to be able to confidently advocate your trustworthiness. It's not obvious how to translate this to PPA archives...
[14:40] <noodles775> Yeah... I guess the idea that an actual PPA archive could contain signed certificates, so when you go to add a PPA, you'll know who has said that they trust that PPA (if anyone)
[14:40] <noodles775> s/that/is that
[14:40] <mpt> Ah, the expander is a nice way of making them less obtrusive
[14:41] <mpt> noodles775, have you sent it to PQM yet?
[14:41] <gaspa> Hi, changes file have not charset set in Content-Type header... were they utf-8 or what?
[14:41] <noodles775> mpt: no... I'm just sending it for review now...
[14:42] <mpt> ok, I'll be quiet then :-)
[14:42] <Laney> noodles775: what about team PPAs though?
[14:43] <noodles775> Laney: sorry, in what context? (the current feature, or the topic of trusted software archives)
[14:43] <Laney> trusted archives :)
[14:44] <Laney> I don't know how I could genuinely say that I trust a team PPA, because I have no idea who's going to come along in the future
[14:44] <noodles775> Laney: Ah I see... yes, so I guess you would only sign a certificate for teams that you had confidence in (perhaps backed by an organisation, or well established etc.)?
[14:45] <Laney> it's hard to do with a lot of foss projects
[14:45] <Laney> and trusting someone to develop good software isn't the same as trusting them to make decent Debian packages
[14:45] <Laney> I don't envy you trying to figure this out :)
[15:31] <geser> what can cause a "HTTP Error 412: Precondition Failed" when calling task.lp_save() after updating task.status and task.importance for a newly created bug?
[15:33] <salgado> geser, maybe the user doesn't have the rights to set the bug to that specific state
[15:36] <geser> hmm, that user was me (I was using requestsync) and I updated the status and importance through the web ui as the bug was already created
[15:47] <MrKanister> Hi, I got a question: Why is it that launchpad does convert "LP: #bug" into a link, but "lp: #bug" not
[15:47] <MrKanister> For example last version of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus and https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pybootchartgui
[15:49] <rockstar> MrKanister, you could probably file a bug about that.
[15:50] <MrKanister> rockstar: Thanks for your answer. Should it be filed against the launchpad projekt or something specific?
[15:51] <rockstar> MrKanister, file it against launchpad-foundations, please.
[15:52] <MrKanister> rockstar: Thank you. I will do that then.
[16:18] <oubiwann> um, guys? I'm having *serious* problems with launchpad....
[16:18] <oubiwann> I can't login
[16:19] <oubiwann> and when I do the password request, it says that my account details have not been found
[16:19] <oubiwann> I asked radix to check out my user page from the link in Launchpad
[16:20] <radix> https://launchpad.net/~oubiwann
[16:20] <oubiwann> and he says that he sees a note saying that this user does not use launchpad
[16:20] <radix> he definitely used to, especially given there's a user icon
[16:20] <radix> and he has tons of karma
[16:21] <oubiwann> don't take my karma, mr. luanchpad!
[16:21] <oubiwann> Ursinha: you around?
[16:21] <Ursinha> oubiwann, yes :)
[16:21] <Ursinha> let me read
[16:21] <oubiwann> Ursinha: thanks!
[16:22] <Ursinha> oh, this is odd
[16:23] <oubiwann> Ursinha: yeah! I feel like someone's robbed my house :-(
[16:23] <oubiwann> and my office!
[16:23] <Ursinha> :(
[16:24]  * oubiwann wonders if he can push branches to lp:~oubiwann...
[16:24] <Ursinha> oubiwann, can you try that, please?
[16:26] <oubiwann> Ursinha: fail
[16:26] <Ursinha> oubiwann, hm
[16:27] <oubiwann> bzr: ERROR: Server sent an unexpected error: ('error', "<Fault -1: 'OOPS-1279XMLP18'>")
[16:28] <evanrmurphy> danilos: Out of curiosity, how does message sharing handle Karma points?
[16:29] <danilos> evanrmurphy: they are not duplicated (i.e. even if a translation is shared, you get karma points only once)
[16:30] <evanrmurphy> danilos: Makes sense, thanks. :)
[16:31] <oubiwann> Ursinha: radix mentioned something about a session deletion that happened yesterday... could this be related?
[16:32] <Ursinha> oubiwann, I'm investigating right now
[16:33] <oubiwann> Ursinha: thanks!
[16:33] <evanrmurphy> danilos: I find the project really exciting. I know some of the Spanish translators put in a lot of hours reapproving translations each release cycle. This could save a ton of work!
[16:34] <danilos> evanrmurphy: yeah, it's going to be a big win for everyone involved; hopefully no reapproving will need to happen anymore
[16:34] <evanrmurphy> \o/
[16:38] <Kangarooo> ok hello I wanna kill some bugs.. im doing it with just launchapd thrue firefox. I saw in synaptic there is some ubuntu bug team package? is it with tools for bug team? if not then how can I halp with bug killing? im no linux programmer so how can I start? and I could start with managing and arranging them and testing if they are true or false.. so thouse who are realy bugs then programmers take on their hands
[16:38] <Kangarooo> I also would need this info so I could make local bug squad in native language..
[16:38] <Kangarooo> so is there some programm for bug tracking ? best way to help in launchpad to manage bugs? report/manage/search? tools? programms?
[16:39] <Ursinha> hi Kangarooo
[16:40] <Ursinha> Kangarooo, a good place to start is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[16:40] <Ursinha> Kangarooo, also, you can talk to bugs people at #ubuntu-bugs
[16:41] <Kangarooo> everybody sleeps there
[16:42] <Kangarooo> im using irc only when im at the momnet.. maybe im missing some irc use? why some are not at keyboard but still in irc?
[16:43] <Ursinha> Kangarooo, maybe they're busy or explicitly away
[16:43] <yofel> Kangarooo: it's common to be in a lot of channels at the same time here - so you can read what happend while you weren't reading in the channel
[16:43] <Ursinha> oubiwann, do you have another account or that one is the only one?
[16:44] <oubiwann> Ursinha: that's the only one
[16:44] <Kangarooo> yofel: yes and then when back at keyboard they see someone had problem.. no one answered and they quit irc and now not ever using ubuntu again :)
[16:44] <oubiwann> Ursinha: the only one I use, that is...
[16:45] <oubiwann> Ursinha: when I logged in today, it sent me to a different account (oubiwann-adytum) which I've never used and don't know how it got created
[16:45] <Kangarooo> going to launchpad and reporting question there for new users is too difficult and they don't think they need to register just for one problem..
[16:45] <Ursinha> oubiwann, hmmm let's check
[16:45] <jon2> my LP account seems to have been renamed w/o my knowledge... has anyone run into this before?
[16:45] <oubiwann> Ursinha: that accoount has none of my ssh keys and isn't associated with anything I've done with Canonical
[16:46] <oubiwann> jon2: yeah, there seem to be some problems today...
[16:46] <jon2> oh ok, at least I'm not the only one
[16:47] <jon2> although not having access to push to the mainline branch of my project is kind of inconvenient ;)
[16:47] <oubiwann> jon2: yeah, tell me about it!
[16:47] <Ursinha> hmm, that's becoming very weird
[16:47] <oubiwann> lp seems to have forgotten my account and the associated SSH keys
[16:48] <oubiwann> Ursinha: are any of the people who were involved with the session data deletion yesterday around?
[16:48] <Ursinha> oubiwann, yes, stub, we're trying to sort this out
[16:49] <oubiwann> awesome
[16:49] <jon2> Ursinha: if it helps... when I hit lp this morning, I wasn't logged in, which I thought was strange, so I re-logged in and noticed that it has me logged in under a different username.  the new username has my real name, but none of the keys, location, etc.
[16:49] <radix> !
[16:49] <Ursinha> jon2, I see
[16:49] <jon2> Ursinha: when I go to the profile page of my old username, it says that "Jon does not use Launchpad" although the creation date of that page says 2006-01-13
[16:49] <Ursinha> oubiwann, you're able to login to the changed one, just as jon2?
[16:49] <oubiwann> jon2: sounds like the same exact issue I'm having
[16:49] <jon2> the creation date of my new account's profile page is today's date
[16:50] <Ursinha> jon2, I see, as oubiwann's one
[16:50] <oubiwann> Ursinha: yes, that's what happened to me
[16:50] <jon2> the thing that made me notice the problem was that I was trying to push a branch and I got an error about a read-only transport
[16:51] <jon2> so then I got on LP to look, and I wasn't on the team that admins my project
[16:51] <jon2> so I thought my team membership had expired, but it hadn't...
[16:51] <jon2> that's when I noticed my username was different
[16:55] <Ursinha> jon2, that's really odd. I'm investigating right now, I'm sorry the inconvenience
[16:55] <SiDi> Hey people
[16:55] <SiDi> is there a way to push to LP behind a firewall ?
[16:55] <SiDi> only ports 80 and 443 are open here
[16:56] <jon2> Ursinha: no problem - thanks for looking at it
[17:36] <C10uD> hello, i'm having some issues with the launchpad buildd service
[17:37] <C10uD> link: https://launchpad.net/~c10ud/+archive/gst/+build/1103244
[17:37] <C10uD> but as you can see i have this: https://launchpad.net/%7Ec10ud/+archive/gst/+sourcepub/662981/+listing-archive-extra in my ppa
[17:38] <C10uD> the package builds correctly in my system, which has the same stuff
[17:41] <C10uD> anyone from the build team around?
[17:41] <bigjools> C10uD: you need to specify it as a build dependency
[17:41] <C10uD> debian/control?
[17:41] <bigjools> yes
[17:42] <C10uD> but seems correctly installed from the virtual machine though
[17:42] <C10uD> anyway, i'll try that way
[17:42] <bigjools> where do you see it installed?  which package?
[17:42] <C10uD> Setting up python-gst0.10 (0.10.15-1~bpo40+1) ...
[17:44] <C10uD> and, i get this
[17:44] <C10uD> checking for PYFARSIGHT... configure: error: Package requirements ( pygobject-2.0 >= 2.12.0
[17:44] <C10uD> 				   gst-python-0.10 >= 0.10.10 ) were not met:
[17:44] <C10uD> No package 'gst-python-0.10' found
[17:45] <bigjools> it's python-gst0.10 but you already have it
[17:45] <bigjools> what about pygobject-2.0
[17:46] <bigjools> I think that's the one that's missing from your build deps
[17:46] <C10uD> python-gobject-dev should be what he's looking for
[17:46] <C10uD> i don't have strange packages for python in my box though
[17:47] <C10uD> and the virtual machine said "Setting up python-gobject-dev (2.16.1-1ubuntu2) ..."
[17:47] <bigjools> yeah
[17:47] <bigjools> it might be a problem in that configure script then, how is it detecting the presence of the dev libs it needs?
[17:48] <bigjools> I am guessing there's a mismatch between what it expects and what the packages install
[17:48] <C10uD> sincerely, i don't know since i'm a newbie in build system stuff, but i guess i'll just comment out that check and try again
[17:48] <C10uD> still i don't get why is building correctly here, strange indeed
[17:50] <bigjools> C10uD: you probably have a local library installed not from a package
[17:54] <C10uD> i don't think so, at least, this is not what i usually do :p thanks anyway, now i'll try commenting out that requests
[18:44] <geser> it looks like it uses pkg-config to find the libraries
[18:44] <maco> when using the email interface, if a bug affects >1 package, is it possible to specify which "affects" row in the bug you're setting the "assignee"?
[18:46] <Ursinha> maco, you should click the assignee arrow in the proper row
[18:46] <maco> Ursinha, email interface question ;)
[18:47] <Ursinha> maco, oops :)
[18:47] <Ursinha> note to self, read the whole line
[18:47] <Ursinha> :P
[18:47] <geser> C10uD: you need python-gst0.10-dev installed/listed in your build-depends as this package contains the .pc file which pkg-config uses to check if a library is available or not
[18:48] <C10uD> geser, i'll added that lately (but didn't tell here), we'll see in the next 5 hours or so, thanks :P
[18:48] <Ursinha> gmb, do you know the answer to maco's question?
[18:50] <geser> maco: if I understand the docs correctly you can use "affects" to select the task which "assignee" should be changed
[18:51] <maco> ok...will try
[18:52] <geser> maco: see also "Editing a bug that affects multiple contexts" on https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface#Commands%20reference
[18:55] <maco> ah ok thanks
[20:54] <gini107> hi
[20:54] <gini107> i am trying to make my first commit to a featured branch on launch pad
[20:54] <gini107> but i am getting an error
[20:54] <gini107> Permission denied (publickey).
[20:54] <gini107> bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: please check connectivity and permissions (and try -Dhpss if further diagnosis is required)
[20:55] <gini107> can i get any help on this
[20:57] <maco> gini107, do you have permission to push to that branch?
[20:59] <gini107> yes
[21:00] <nhandler> gini107: Have you added your GPG key to your Launchpad profile?
[21:00] <gini107> yes
[21:01] <gini107> i am in the default review tteam for this branch
[21:01] <radix> it's the ssh key that's important here, not the GPG key
[21:01] <nhandler> radix: Yes, that is what I meant ;)
[21:01] <nhandler> gini107: Being in the review team does not necessarily mean you can commit
[21:01] <gini107> i have uploaded my rsa.pub
[21:01] <radix> gini107: that error indicates it's not about team membership, because the error is a basic authentication error
[21:02] <gini107> yes..
[21:02] <radix> gini107: the ssh server can't even identify you
[21:02] <gini107> hmm..
[21:02] <radix> gini107: are you using the correct username?
[21:02] <gini107> yes yes
[21:03] <gini107> i also think the error is because of authentication issues only
[21:03] <gini107> i wasn't able to push my code to some other branch also
[21:04] <radix> yes, so
[21:04] <gini107> however, bzr launchpad-login malveeka (malveeka is my username)
[21:04] <gini107> gives no error
[21:04] <radix> gini107: are you sure you uploaded the right public key? is your private key in your agent, or are you being prompted for the password when you try pushing?
[21:04] <radix> yeah, launchpad-login doesn't do any ssh stuff
[21:04] <gini107> ohh..
[21:05] <gini107> i am not beng prompted for a password
[21:05] <radix> gini107: is your private key at ~/.ssh/id_rsa ?
[21:05] <gini107> yes
[21:05] <radix> and it's supposed to be passphrase-protected? if so, maybe the permissions are wrong and ssh is refusing to use it
[21:07] <gini107> hmm..
[21:07] <gini107> i'll regenrate a key and upload
[21:07] <gini107> again
[21:14] <gini107> i regenrated the ssh key
[21:15] <gini107> did not gv any passphrase also
[21:15] <gini107> i am not even able to checkout code
[22:10] <JosefAssad> might be an idea next time to provide a password reset. People are suspicious enough of emails mentioning account resets or the like nowadays
[22:10] <JosefAssad> Er. Password reset form.
[22:25] <didrocks> hey, is it possible to create a branch with launchpadlib? can't find any method for that.
[22:29] <Ursinha> rockstar, do you know the answer for that?
[22:32] <didrocks> or at least, set development focus (and so, creating the branch thanks to bzr push) :)
[22:34] <Kangarooo> hello.. when will launchpad allow for example latvian letters? look https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lv in links section irc uri is not recognized becouse lauchpad doesn't allows latvian letters.. so how can laucpad be even in other languages if letters are not recognized.. I also try html decimal codes and didn't work either..
[22:56] <wgrant> Argh.
[22:56] <wgrant> My account was fine 8 hours ago.
[22:56] <wgrant> I did notice I got logged out on production again about 12 hours ago, but I was able to log in again.
[22:58] <rockstar> didrocks, what kind of branch do you want to create?
[22:59] <rockstar> didrocks, oh, I'm not sure of setting development focus is exposed through the API.
[23:01] <didrocks> rockstar: the idea was to create a ~user branch and set it to development focus of a launchpad project
[23:01] <didrocks> so, ~user can be created directly in bzr pushing first
[23:02] <rockstar> didrocks, yea, I'm not sure if that's exposed.  It would be nice though.
[23:02]  * rockstar looks
[23:08] <wgrant> Hm, being deactivated also means that the person is sent no email, so it's not harmless.
[23:15] <ajmitch> wgrant: you suddenly had a lot less email today?
[23:15] <wgrant> ajmitch: Yes.
[23:15] <wgrant> And I can't recover my account the way stub suggests, because all 6 of my email address were in the broken 1300.
[23:16] <ajmitch> ouch
[23:16] <wgrant> I do hope that somebody answers feedback@launchpad.net while London is asleep.
[23:16] <ajmitch> looks like I can still login, thankfully
[23:16] <ajmitch> who did it end up affecting?
[23:17] <wgrant> I found one user last night that I thought shouldn't haven't been deactivated, but thought nothing of it.
[23:17] <wgrant> Then this morning I had no bugmail, and mine was deactivated too.
[23:17]  * wgrant wonders why they didn't check that they weren't going to kill any accounts while doing that.
[23:20] <ajmitch> From what I read, there was some clearing of session data, which somehow deactivated many accounts?
[23:20] <wgrant> No, no, that wasn't it.
[23:20] <wgrant> They 'repaired' 1300 invalid person<->email links.
[23:21] <wgrant> And 6 of those were repaired from my person to somewhere else.
[23:21] <ajmitch> ...
[23:22] <wgrant> Those links were also not particularly invalid, as they worked just fine.
[23:22] <ajmitch> it's interesting that it only happened for some email addresses though
[23:22] <wgrant> It is.
[23:23] <wgrant> Even more interesting that it happened to all of mine, when they were added over a more than four-year period.
[23:23] <ajmitch> and none of mine
[23:23] <ajmitch> at least I still appear to have 5 listed on my LP account
[23:26] <wgrant> I wonder what breaks as I try to do things as a deactivated person with no confirmed or preferred email addresses.
[23:26] <wgrant> (it hasn't logged me out)
[23:26] <Ursinha> wgrant, are you able or not to log in?
[23:26] <ajmitch> funny, I've been logged out everywhere
[23:26] <wgrant> Oh, I was too.
[23:26] <wgrant> But I logged in late last night before things died.
[23:26] <Ursinha> ajmitch, the logout was because of a session deletion we did yesterday
[23:27] <wgrant> Ursinha: I was logged out twice.
[23:27] <Ursinha> happened to me as well, but I was able to log in
[23:27] <wgrant> The first one I understand, but not the second.
[23:27] <wgrant> Should I try logging in? Won't that just create a new Person, confusing the situation even further?
[23:28] <Ursinha> wgrant, you haven't tried to login after being logged out?
[23:28] <wgrant> Ursinha: I'm not logged out.
[23:28] <wgrant> Ursinha: Last time I was logged out, I was able to log in again.
[23:28] <wgrant> But that was 12ish hours ago.
[23:28] <wgrant> And my person was still fine.
[23:28] <Ursinha> and how did you realize your account have problems?
[23:29] <maco> Ursinha, he said all the bugmail suddenly stopped pouring in
[23:29] <Ursinha> people related they tried to login and that led them to a new account
[23:29] <wgrant> Ursinha: I had no bugmail, and my person icon had changed.
[23:29] <wgrant> So I went to my person page, and found that it was telling me that I was not, in fact, using Launchpad.
[23:30] <wgrant> +editemails shows that only my one unconfirmed email is still associated with me.
[23:30] <Ursinha> hm
[23:32] <wgrant> So, what was so invalid about these links?
[23:42] <Ursinha> wgrant, do you have your regular permissions with the user you're logged in?
[23:42] <wgrant> Ursinha: It seems so.
[23:43] <wgrant> (which sounds like a bug)
[23:45] <Ursinha> wgrant, I see here all the bugs and karma still are attached to this account
[23:45] <wgrant> Ursinha: Right. Just the email addresses are gone.
[23:46] <wgrant> Which mainly concerns me because I'm losing email.
[23:46] <Ursinha> wgrant, well, stub did a fix for the majority of affected users, and they were told to login again, and do a merge account if needed
[23:46] <Ursinha> you can try that
[23:47] <wgrant> Ursinha: That won't work.
[23:47] <wgrant> Ursinha: My account has no preferred email address.
[23:47] <wgrant> Not even a confirmed one.
[23:47] <wgrant> s/account/existing person/
[23:48] <wgrant> I suppose I could try to add a new address to me old person, log out, log in to the new person, and merge.
[23:48] <wgrant> But, no,
[23:48] <wgrant> That sounds like a recipe for disaster.
[23:49] <wgrant> Because I have things on my account that don't want to be renamed (ie. PPAs)
[23:49] <wgrant> And I wonder how that interacts with OpenID.
[23:50] <wgrant> And merging the other way might not work, as the person that would remain is deactivated.
[23:51] <wgrant> spm: Do you have instructions on fixing this?
[23:51] <wgrant> The development meeting suggests not.
[23:52] <Ursinha> wgrant, spm must have the same instructions as I or matsubara do
[23:52] <wgrant> Damn.
[23:53] <matsubara> wgrant, we need your preferred email address and account name and you'll have to wait
[23:53] <wgrant> matsubara: I've emailed feedback@launchpad.net.
[23:53] <matsubara> wgrant, oh, that's fine than. It'll be looked at when stub comes back
[23:53] <matsubara> but you'll have to wait
[23:53] <matsubara> I'm sorry about it
[23:54] <wgrant> matsubara: I guess that should only be a few hours.
[23:54] <matsubara> but if you keep trying modifying the data you might make things worse
[23:54] <wgrant> It would be fine if there wasn't the bugmail problem.
[23:54] <wgrant> Right.
[23:54] <Ursinha> wgrant, yes, only until stub comes agaonm
[23:54] <wgrant> That's why I haven't tried anything.
[23:54] <Ursinha> *again