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| Craigy90 | hi all | 02:06 |
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| Craigy90 | how should I report a bug that crashes X only when compiz is running? | 02:07 |
| Craigy90 | It crashes consistently whenever I try to use dual-monitors | 02:07 |
| micahg | Craigy90: try asking in #ubuntu-x | 02:12 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:33 |
| dholbach | Ubuntu Development and Packaging Q&A in 10m in #ubuntu-classroom | 06:50 |
| thekorn | good morning | 07:42 |
| ColdWind | ls | 09:36 |
| ColdWind | fail | 09:36 |
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| lesshaste | hi all | 10:08 |
| rmaj | hi, for me 2.6.28-13 (9.04 amd64) does not see any files nor partitions | 10:19 |
| rmaj | perhaps this is the 16 partition limit? because my / is on /dev/sda16 | 10:19 |
| rmaj | -11 (and install live cd) work | 10:20 |
| rmaj | can we fix this? what is the partitions limit on -13 ? | 10:22 |
| lesshaste | well I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels? See http://pastebin.ca/1481697 | 10:46 |
| lesshaste | any ideas? | 10:46 |
| lesshaste | s/not/now | 10:46 |
| rmaj | it seems that ubuntu tottally fails, in the first day of use I found dozen of serious problems | 11:05 |
| rmaj | is there any actually working way to fix them quick? I can do the reporting | 11:06 |
| Nafallo | rmaj: we have no concept of mindreading I'm afraid. are the bugs reported on launchpad already? | 11:06 |
| rmaj | the amount of fail is so big I have hard time reporting them, because Im not sure if given 3 bugs should be 1 or 3 reports | 11:07 |
| rmaj | for example, hardware drives installer, for nvidia, fails on following fronts | 11:07 |
| rmaj | - lack of feedback to user aboput download progress/success | 11:08 |
| rmaj | - invalid reporting of network problems (just empty message box) | 11:08 |
| rmaj | - after installation the drivers do not work | 11:08 |
| rmaj | - no way to see details what is the problem in installation | 11:08 |
| rmaj | - (probably about X server) the "failsave graphics mode" thing does not work | 11:08 |
| rmaj | drivers not working could be result of new kernel installation (-13) that didnt boot. now Im back in -11 | 11:09 |
| rmaj | so.. 1) -13 does not boot and 2) if we installed -13 then getting back to working -11 is not possible, drivers do not work | 11:09 |
| rmaj | btw I noticed that GSM connection do not work (worked on 8.10) | 11:10 |
| rmaj | If I found isolate problem its obvious to report it... but what to do when everything brakes apart like above | 11:10 |
| rmaj | (its a fresh 9.04 amd64) | 11:11 |
| rmaj | Nafallo: so how should I go about reporting and having fixed all this | 11:12 |
| Nafallo | rmaj: file bugs on launchpad I'd say. www.launchpad.net | 11:16 |
| rmaj | what is package name for that hardware installer? | 11:17 |
| Nafallo | rmaj: I'm a bit busy at the moment, so can't really help more than that I'm afraid. hopefully someone else can speak up :-) | 11:17 |
| jpds | jockey I think. | 11:17 |
| rmaj | thanks | 11:20 |
| rmaj | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/394651 | 11:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 394651 in jockey "[9.04 amd64 + nvidia = FAIL] jockey hardware drivers installer" [Undecided,New] | 11:27 |
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| dstansby | Hi guys, just wondering if anyone knows how I can download and install the karmic version of a package in jaunty. | 12:06 |
| dstansby | ? | 12:07 |
| maxb | you can try, but sometimes it would fail due to dependencies | 12:08 |
| dstansby | It's just I'm looking at this bug, which I can't reproduce: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wavemon/+bug/209710 because I haven't got a wireless connection | 12:13 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 209710 in wavemon "Saved treshold action = beep will change after restart into beep+flash" [Low,Confirmed] | 12:13 |
| dstansby | However, the reporter is not using the latest version because he isn't using karmic, so I have no way of telling whether this is reproducible in the latest version of wavemon | 12:14 |
| dstansby | Looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups-pdf/+bug/295318 , it seems that the bug has been resolved. Does anyone know if this means that all the packages/projects should be marked as fix released or not? | 12:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 295318 in cups-pdf "cups-pdf requires user to create output folder before working correctly." [Low,Fix released] | 12:27 |
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| hggdh | all: this is one good example on how to deal with extreme rudeness: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-coreutils/2009-07/msg00012.html. The archive contains the whole thread, if you are interested. | 15:55 |
| Kangarooo | ok hello I wanna kill some bugs.. im doing it with just launchapd thrue firefox. I saw in synaptic there is some ubuntu bug team package? is it with tools for bug team? if not then how can I halp with bug killing? im no linux programmer so how can I start? | 16:32 |
| Kangarooo | I also would need this info so I could make local bug squad in native language.. | 16:34 |
| Kangarooo | also here's one bug on witch I want to know if I said correctly.. can someone check on it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/synaptic/+bug/186634 | 16:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 186634 in synaptic "Old version of eclipse in repository" [Undecided,New] | 16:35 |
| Kangarooo | so is there some programm for bug tracking ? best way to help in launchpad to manage bugs? report/manage/search? tools? programms? | 16:36 |
| yofel | Kangarooo: Afaik it's known that the eclipse package is outdated, there's just nobody to update it | 16:45 |
| bdmurray | It'd be best to look at eclipse bug reports and see if this particular bug report is a duplicate of another | 16:46 |
| bdmurray | Additionally this bug is filed in the incorrect place - it is about the upstream synaptic project not about ubuntu | 16:46 |
| bdmurray | notice the Affects table has "synaptic" not "synaptic (ubuntu)" | 16:47 |
| Kangarooo | bdmurray: ok can you say more preciselly.. I didn't understand.. problem is in synaptic.. so this bug is reported to synaptic.. everything is correct or something needs to be corrected? 4 example if problem is in crunchbangs synaptic like I wrote comment to that bug then I would not post synaptic ubuntu.. I just want to know what to do correctly.. | 17:21 |
| Kangarooo | and can anybody tell me is there bug team somekind tools?.. like all newest bugs I see immidiatlly as posted and immidiatlly search relative bugs? launchapad web too strange.. maybe ubuntu-bug distro? | 17:23 |
| Kangarooo | ubuntu-bug-team distro? | 17:23 |
| bdmurray | Kangarooo: I would expect the bug report to look as it does now. Bug 186634 | 17:24 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 186634 in synaptic "Old version of eclipse in repository" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186634 | 17:24 |
| bdmurray | notice how I've added a "synaptic (Ubuntu)" line | 17:24 |
| bdmurray | However, its not really a synaptic bug but a bug about eclipse being old so the bug report should really be about the eclipse package in Ubuntu | 17:25 |
| Kangarooo | ah ok finally yees :) that's more logical.. but if I would for example put that bug is affecting synaptic ubuntu and eclipse ( couse that who reported didn't said witch distro so I can't say without knowing that bug is in ubuntu ) to attract more who might know what is really problem.. eclipse developers maybe don't know about ubuntu some ubuntu package maker only knows how he made this package.. im confused | 17:30 |
| bdmurray | "latest version available (and all associated plugins) is v3.2.2-3ubuntu3" | 17:30 |
| bdmurray | ^- notice ubuntu | 17:30 |
| Kangarooo | aaah ok this time its know yes.. /// bug managing isn't making my statistik bigger http://daniel.holba.ch/five-a-day-stats/ ? and where is simmilar page for each user statistic? | 17:34 |
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| elena09 | hello | 18:54 |
| elena09 | Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop | 18:54 |
| elena09 | hello? | 18:59 |
| elena09 | Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop | 19:05 |
| Kangarooo | elena09: HDD is in every OS spinning all the time | 19:08 |
| Kangarooo | and no it can't be higher than on any other OS :D | 19:09 |
| elena09 | I know, but temperature is above 45 Celsius at me all the time | 19:09 |
| elena09 | There was a bug related to load cycles in Ubuntu 8.10, could it be? | 19:09 |
| Kangarooo | that's normal.. cpu temp i know for PC is from 50 to 80 I've seen.. tell me only how and where did you saw HDD temp? | 19:10 |
| elena09 | sudo hddtemp /dev/sda that's how | 19:12 |
| elena09 | WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0: 45°C | 19:13 |
| elena09 | and it shows tha... | 19:13 |
| elena09 | that* | 19:13 |
| Kangarooo | elena09: elena is girls name.. how can you be interested in computers? russian? | 19:14 |
| Kangarooo | sudo: hddtemp: command not found | 19:14 |
| elena09 | sudo hddtemp /dev/sda | 19:15 |
| elena09 | you must install the package first | 19:15 |
| elena09 | sudo apt-get install hddtemp | 19:16 |
| elena09 | first is that and then ... | 19:16 |
| elena09 | I am a girls yes, but not Russian | 19:16 |
| micahg | Kangarooo: there's no reason that girls cannot be interested in computers | 19:16 |
| micahg | Kangarooo: please respect all members in the channel | 19:16 |
| ogra | elena09, what kind of disk is that ? | 19:17 |
| Kangarooo | I allways do that :D did something made you feel different? :) | 19:17 |
| ogra | elena09, do you know the rpm for it ? | 19:17 |
| Kangarooo | my result /dev/sda: ST92011A: 54°C so its normal | 19:18 |
| elena09 | WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0: 45°C It is a laptop disk | 19:18 |
| andrea-bs | It may be bug 59695 | 19:18 |
| ogra | having a disk that spins at 7200 or so, 45°C is perfectly normal | 19:18 |
| ubot4 | andrea-bs: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out | 19:18 |
| Kangarooo | I have 5400 | 19:18 |
| elena09 | let me look in the WD page | 19:18 |
| elena09 | is there a command in Ubuntu for RPM? | 19:18 |
| Kangarooo | google the code of result of hddtemp | 19:19 |
| elena09 | http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2670&p_created=#jumper | 19:19 |
| elena09 | There is WD page | 19:20 |
| elena09 | and it says 5400RPM | 19:20 |
| ogra | there is a hw report from a laptop user under arch linux using that disk http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/13110?getfile=3063 | 19:20 |
| ogra | -Hard Disk Temperature- | 19:20 |
| ogra | WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0 (/dev/sda): 52°C | 19:20 |
| ogra | 45°C dont seem to worrying | 19:21 |
| ogra | (the bug he reported wasnt about disk temp) | 19:21 |
| Kangarooo | elena09: is your hdd WD Passport? ist that external? I have also external WD.. will this HDDTEMP also show temp for external USB HDD? And just usb Flash stick? | 19:22 |
| ogra | if you google for "WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0 temperature" you will find a lot of systems where the disk runs around 40-50° | 19:22 |
| elena09 | it is not external | 19:22 |
| Kangarooo | 10000 maybe will go even to 80.. why not? and that ok.. computer knows what to do its programmed.. I have 5400 and 54celsius | 19:23 |
| elena09 | hmmm so you say it is ok? | 19:23 |
| ogra | i would think so | 19:24 |
| elena09 | ogra the disk temperature is perhaps a consequence of hdd activity, | 19:24 |
| ogra | its hotter than mine (39°C but seems google thinks many people have such a temp) | 19:24 |
| ogra | definately | 19:24 |
| elena09 | there was a bug In Ubuntu 8.10 related to load/unload cycles; was it solved in Jaunty? | 19:25 |
| ogra | WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0 hardware monitor | 19:26 |
| ogra | Temperature sensor 0 44°C (111°F) [0x2C] (HDD) | 19:26 |
| ogra | thats from a guy using windows ... | 19:26 |
| ogra | so seems such a temp is relatively typical for that disk | 19:27 |
| elena09 | well, ok. Thank you for helping me. | 19:27 |
| d1b | ogra: put a fan in front of it | 19:27 |
| Kangarooo | hdd is spinning all the time.. no matter what.. its just moving its needles up and down if neccesery.. 60celsius is normal.. | 19:28 |
| elena09 | ok. | 19:28 |
| d1b | Kangarooo: 60C for a hard disk ? | 19:28 |
| elena09 | Good night and thanks again. | 19:28 |
| d1b | since when ? | 19:28 |
| ogra | Kangarooo, well, HDDs have specs ... 60°C is likely more on the max temp area | 19:28 |
| Kangarooo | yes even 80 :) why not? cpu is 80 also | 19:28 |
| d1b | google report on disk use says around 40/30 is good | 19:28 |
| ogra | your CPU has no bearings :) | 19:28 |
| d1b | hard disk * | 19:28 |
| Kangarooo | I found also 66celsius on google | 19:29 |
| yvan300 | how do you check hdd temp? | 19:29 |
| d1b | yvan300: sudo apt-get install hddtemp | 19:29 |
| Kangarooo | sudo apt-get install hddtemp | 19:29 |
| ogra | with the hddtemp tool or smartmon | 19:29 |
| d1b | sudo hddtemp /dev/sda | 19:29 |
| Kangarooo | and that's the biggest bug today in ubuntu :) | 19:29 |
| d1b | Kangarooo: it has been fixed. | 19:30 |
| Kangarooo | :D | 19:30 |
| Kangarooo | is there ar gui tool witch also includes hddtemp ? | 19:33 |
| yvan300 | Kangarooo: sysinfo | 19:34 |
| yofel | Kangarooo: for gnome there is sensors-applet | 19:35 |
| ogra | smart-notifier | 19:37 |
| Kangarooo | sysinfo is 401kb sensors is 1528kb ill now compare.. maybe some place to compare programms? I have some ideas for programm compariong in some web catalog but if there is then I woul like to use it | 19:37 |
| Kangarooo | ok when I installed sysinfo it showed in menu but sensors-applet didn't.. maybe couse I have not gnome? i have xubuntu | 19:40 |
| Kangarooo | ogra: smart-notifier 4657kb but it now shows strange menu.. im afraid of strange menu.. even not logical.. it ask what type of mail config I want to be general.. but hardware display tools don't need email.. | 19:44 |
| lesshaste | I tried to restore debconf and not swell I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels? See http://pastebin.ca/1481697 | 19:44 |
| lesshaste | any ideas? | 19:45 |
| lesshaste | oops | 19:45 |
| lesshaste | I tried to restore debconf and now something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels? See http://pastebin.ca/1481697 | 19:45 |
| ogra | Kangarooo, no idea about it ... it attaches to the S.M.A.R.T interface of your disk which is for failure checking and arnings | 19:45 |
| ogra | *warnings | 19:45 |
| Kangarooo | ogra: omg it even installed postfix | 19:45 |
| ogra | Kangarooo, well, you should take a look at a package before blindly installing it ;) | 19:46 |
| ogra | apt-cache show <packagename> is your friend | 19:46 |
| Kangarooo | postfix is for email.. ok how can I do that if I ... aah ok | 19:46 |
| lesshaste | is this a bug or something wrong with my system? | 19:46 |
| Kangarooo | yvan300: but sysinfo is not showing hddtemp | 19:58 |
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| lwells | Hi all, how can I get involved | 20:13 |
| lwells | I want to help | 20:13 |
| lwells | I know of Lauchpad, just need to be pointed in right direction | 20:15 |
| MrKanister | lwells: Hi and thanks for your interest in helping :) | 20:18 |
| lwells | I see the info about bug squad | 20:19 |
| lwells | Just not sure how to join a team to help and where to start | 20:19 |
| MrKanister | lwells: Do you have some specific vision of helping? For example more coding or more triaging ? | 20:19 |
| lwells | What is involved with triaging? | 20:20 |
| MrKanister | Triaging means you look at new bugs and try to make them good. For example asking the reporter specific things, etc | 20:21 |
| lwells | I want to be coding and learning also, but help where i can | 20:21 |
| MrKanister | Developers like to have informative bug reports | 20:21 |
| hggdh | lwells, basically it is figuring out what is actually the issue (if any), and collecting the necessary documentation to help resolution | 20:21 |
| lwells | Well I am a NoOb in linux and ubuntu, still learning the system | 20:22 |
| lwells | So I will need to start out small | 20:22 |
| MrKanister | lwells: A good way to start cooding would be https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/karmic | 20:22 |
| MrKanister | papercuts are small annoyances, that can be fixed by (mostly) a small amount of coding work | 20:23 |
| lwells | that sounds like a good start | 20:24 |
| lwells | I am currently using Jaunty, does that matter? | 20:24 |
| MrKanister | lwells: It shouldn't matter, but having the latest testing version installed makes it sometimes easier to test things | 20:25 |
| lwells | testing version of the OS? | 20:25 |
| lwells | Or just a specific package? | 20:26 |
| hggdh | lwells, yes -- this would mean karmic | 20:26 |
| MrKanister | testing new packages | 20:26 |
| lwells | Oh, Karmic is the next version? | 20:26 |
| hggdh | usually the latest version of a package is on the current development system | 20:26 |
| MrKanister | sometimes new packages versions mean new depencies which are not present in the old version of the os | 20:26 |
| hggdh | yes -- Karmic Koala == 9.10 | 20:26 |
| lwells | ahh ok | 20:26 |
| MrKanister | I think an easy one to fix is https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/275495 | 20:27 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 275495 in hundredpapercuts "nautilus search, when several places are choosen only the latest is searched" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:27 |
| lwells | Ok, well I can install Karmic right? | 20:27 |
| lwells | I mean it is available right? | 20:28 |
| MrKanister | lwells: It is | 20:28 |
| MrKanister | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview | 20:28 |
| MrKanister | This page contains all necessary information for new development releases | 20:28 |
| lwells | good good | 20:29 |
| lwells | And do I need to offically register to help? | 20:29 |
| MrKanister | You mean in launchpad? | 20:29 |
| lwells | yes | 20:29 |
| MrKanister | For almost all cases, yes. | 20:29 |
| lwells | Well I have already have a log in | 20:30 |
| MrKanister | Then you have all you nedd | 20:30 |
| MrKanister | * need | 20:30 |
| lwells | but I do not need to report to a head of Paper Cuts coordinator or something? | 20:31 |
| MrKanister | communication is always good to let other people know about what you figured out | 20:31 |
| lwells | ok | 20:32 |
| MrKanister | but it is not necessary to ask someone if you can take a bug and try to fix it | 20:32 |
| lwells | And if I need help with a certain issue, I can come here? | 20:33 |
| hggdh | lwells, the sabic principle is document (i.e., write a comment on the bug) what you did/do/will do | 20:33 |
| hggdh | s/sabic/basic/ Urgh! | 20:33 |
| lwells | ok | 20:34 |
| lwells | then others will read that right? | 20:34 |
| MrKanister | yes | 20:34 |
| MrKanister | feel free to ask here for help any time | 20:35 |
| hggdh | and we will know what was tried, what did not work, and what did. This always help | 20:35 |
| plars | question, how do you open a release specific sub-task - similar to how https://bugs.launchpad.net/desktop-switcher/+bug/349519 has jaunty and karmic under desktop-switcher? | 20:35 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 349519 in desktop-switcher "Switch Desktop Mode corrupted settings" [High,Fix committed] | 20:35 |
| MrKanister | lwells: When starting to fix bugs the Packaging Guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide might be of a big help | 20:36 |
| hggdh | plars, you nominate for a release | 20:36 |
| plars | hggdh: how does it know which task to put it under? | 20:36 |
| lwells | thanks man, you guys are very helpful | 20:37 |
| MrKanister | lwells: You are welcome :) | 20:38 |
| lwells | I know I will be back, I just need to try not to be a pest | 20:38 |
| hggdh | plars, you nominate the bug, not the action | 20:39 |
| plars | hggdh: so you use the "Target to release" link? | 20:42 |
| hggdh | plars, what bug #? | 20:45 |
| plars | hggdh: it's more of a general question | 20:45 |
| plars | hggdh: also, on some bugs, instead of that "target to release" link, I see "Nominate for release" in the same spot | 20:46 |
| plars | this is a part of the process that I have seen little or nothing written about | 20:47 |
| hggdh | plars, give me some, and I will search on it | 20:47 |
| hggdh | but, generically, "we the people" can only *nominate* for a release. Only a very small group can *target* a release | 20:48 |
| plars | hggdh: what is the difference then? and why do some bugs have one, and others have the other? | 20:49 |
| hggdh | let's say Joe Blow (an user, not a member of the special group) would like a specific bug resolved on release Jaunty; this bug has already been fixed on Karmic. So Joe Blow goes and nominate it for Jaunty. | 20:50 |
| hggdh | it does not mean it will be accepted for jaunty, just that someone thinks it would be good to have there. | 20:51 |
| hggdh | Now, when you *target*, you are looking at the future. | 20:51 |
| hggdh | You would like a certain feature, or bug, resolved at most as of version X+n, where X is the current version of the package | 20:52 |
| hggdh | so you are targeting to the future, and nominating to the past | 20:52 |
| plars | ah, I see | 20:53 |
| plars | odd that only one of those links appears though | 20:53 |
| hggdh | well, I would expect you would have to be the maintainer to target | 20:53 |
| hggdh | so most of us would not be able to do it | 20:53 |
| Ampelbein | bdmurray: hi. do you know of any efforts of rewriting bughelper to use python-launchpadlib? | 21:07 |
| Ampelbein | bdmurray: i started an own version at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~amoog/bughelper/bughelper-lplib which basically works for me. But before I go and add more and more options I'd like to make sure there is no such effort at the moment. | 21:08 |
| bdmurray | Ampelbein: I'm not aware of one but haven't talked to thekorn about it | 21:09 |
| Ampelbein | bdmurray: ok, I think I'll write an email to him. | 21:13 |
| hggdh | seb128, in gdm ./postinst -- is this correct? http://pastebin.ca/1482281 | 21:35 |
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| seb128 | hggdh, that didn't change in years, do you think it's incorrect? | 22:05 |
| hggdh | seb128, not really, I just find it weird to have update-rc.d called twice in a row | 22:07 |
| seb128 | yeah, seems weird but I don't think that's what stop your gdm before | 22:07 |
| seb128 | it's supposed to restart if no instance is running though | 22:08 |
| seb128 | so maybe it didn't detect that one was start | 22:08 |
| seb128 | started | 22:08 |
| hggdh | might be. I will try to reinstall, and see what happens | 22:08 |
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| BUGabundo | boas noites | 22:18 |
| === plars_ is now known as plars | ||
| lesshaste | can anyone help with this ? http://pastebin.ca/1482194 | 22:25 |
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| limcore | Hi | 22:39 |
| limcore | this is how a LOCKED screen looks in ubuntu http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28626240/dscn9364.v03.jpg | 22:39 |
| limcore | secure eh? And this bug is around 2007. | 22:39 |
| lesshaste | limcore: which bug number? | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | limcore: heeheh | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | nice bug | 22:43 |
| BUGabundo | compiz is on? | 22:43 |
| lesshaste | does it have a bug number? | 22:44 |
| lesshaste | because you say it is from 2007 | 22:45 |
| limcore | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/394691 | 22:45 |
| ubot4 | limcore: Error: This bug is private | 22:45 |
| limcore | oh snap | 22:45 |
| limcore | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/394691 | 22:46 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 394691 in ubuntu "[9.04 amd64 + nvidia = FAIL] security hole in screensaver" [Undecided,New] | 22:46 |
| limcore | lesshaste: you could google for older reports. I think I reported them way back in debian. | 22:46 |
| lesshaste | limcore: and the debian people didn't take it seriously? | 22:46 |
| lesshaste | why was it private? | 22:47 |
| limcore | I dont remember now | 22:47 |
| limcore | you know... 2 years.. | 22:47 |
| limcore | my friends got married | 22:47 |
| limcore | I moved to another country | 22:47 |
| limcore | and back | 22:47 |
| limcore | and again away | 22:47 |
| limcore | and back | 22:47 |
| lesshaste | ok so have you actually tested this? | 22:47 |
| limcore | but no need to rush heh. | 22:47 |
| lesshaste | for example using the open source driver? | 22:47 |
| lesshaste | there is very little info in your bug report to be honests | 22:47 |
| limcore | all info is there | 22:48 |
| limcore | the exploit attack: 1. lock screen 2. move mouse | 22:48 |
| lesshaste | ok so let me give you examples of what are missing | 22:48 |
| limcore | and hardware conditions | 22:48 |
| lesshaste | a) the exact driver you are using | 22:48 |
| lesshaste | b) the exact card and hardware set up.. i.e. the output of lspci -vv etc. | 22:48 |
| limcore | about soft, it seems all soft is affected (ubuntus since 8.04 or even 7.x, debians around 2007) | 22:48 |
| lesshaste | there is a page on what info to provide for bug reports | 22:48 |
| lesshaste | supply your X config file too | 22:49 |
| lesshaste | and the output of dmesg | 22:49 |
| limcore | it affected multiply computers | 22:49 |
| lesshaste | and test the open source driver | 22:49 |
| lesshaste | and with and without compiz | 22:49 |
| limcore | on nvidia and intell. right, I will update the title | 22:49 |
| lesshaste | you need to give some info! | 22:49 |
| lesshaste | update the contents! | 22:49 |
| lesshaste | and provide the info I mention | 22:50 |
| lesshaste | limcore: lspci -vvnn is needed | 22:51 |
| lesshaste | as is dmesg | 22:51 |
| lesshaste | limcore: I also can't tell if you think this is related to the nvidia driver or not | 22:53 |
| lesshaste | because you should understand that no one fixes problems related to the closed source nvidia driver | 22:53 |
| lesshaste | so if you can reproduce it with an open source driver you have much greater chances | 22:53 |
| limcore | more info now, lesshaste | 22:57 |
| limcore | well, about this that we do not fixd problems related to close source nvidia driver | 22:57 |
| lesshaste | limcore: you have not supplied any of the info I said | 22:58 |
| limcore | let me show you how users care wether their ubuntu is insecure because of some nvidia driver or because of error in screensaver software, | 22:58 |
| lesshaste | you only changed the summary | 22:58 |
| lesshaste | if you don't fill in the bug report properly no one will pay attention to it | 22:58 |
| limcore | --><-- this much. --->|*********************|<- and that much is how China government cares for human rights | 22:58 |
| lesshaste | then add the correct information to the bug report | 22:58 |
| limcore | so my point is, even if this would be just nvidia closed error (which is not, because also intell), it should be worked around | 22:59 |
| limcore | actually I guess the fix would be something like... | 22:59 |
| lesshaste | why don't you want to add the correct information? | 22:59 |
| limcore | - fillrect(0,0, xsize, ysize); | 22:59 |
| limcore | + fillrect(0,0, 99999,99999); | 22:59 |
| lesshaste | just add the correct information to the bug report!!! | 23:00 |
| limcore | so perhaps its best to try to just patch it, without wondering when exactly is this triggered? | 23:00 |
| limcore | ok lesshaste, that too | 23:00 |
| lesshaste | once you have added the correct information, including your xorg conf etc. | 23:01 |
| lesshaste | test it with the open source nvidia driver | 23:02 |
| lesshaste | then someone will look at it properly | 23:02 |
| lesshaste | but not before | 23:02 |
| limcore | mhm, but this happens as well on intel, lesshaste | 23:02 |
| lesshaste | also, what do you mean by "probably"? | 23:02 |
| lesshaste | limcore: you haven't submitted a bug report with your system using the intel driver... do you not understand what i am saying? | 23:02 |
| lesshaste | find a system that exhibits this problem and report it properly | 23:03 |
| lesshaste | if there are two, report them both in the same bug | 23:03 |
| lesshaste | that's fine | 23:03 |
| lesshaste | but you haven't included a single config file, dmesg output, lspci -vvn output or anythung! | 23:03 |
| lesshaste | your bug report is USELESS ! | 23:03 |
| lesshaste | :) | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | lesshaste: why not ask limcore to use apport-collect? | 23:03 |
| lesshaste | BUGabundo: help :) | 23:03 |
| lesshaste | limcore: please listen to BUGabundo | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | limcore: $ apport-collect -p linux BUGID | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | limcore: $ apport-collect -p compiz BUGID | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | limcore: $ apport-collect -p nvidia-glx-WHATEVERVERSIONYOUHAVE BUGID | 23:04 |
| ikonia | limcore: if you start your usual behaviour in here - you will be banned also | 23:05 |
| lesshaste | ikonia: aha.. what is that usual behaviour? | 23:05 |
| lesshaste | pm? | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: is he a known bad user ? | 23:05 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: very - yes | 23:05 |
| ikonia | hence why I am now stepping in | 23:05 |
| lesshaste | thanks | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: worse them me ? :p | 23:05 |
| lesshaste | I was getting frustrated | 23:05 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: you are an angel in comparission | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | ahahaahaaha | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | thank you so much | 23:06 |
| lesshaste | the risk is that limcore is 11 | 23:06 |
| lesshaste | and we should all be really nice to him :) | 23:06 |
| ikonia | if he persists in his ranting about how bad/insecure ubuntu is he will be removed | 23:06 |
| ikonia | just to make that clear in public | 23:06 |
| lesshaste | ikonia: is there a #ubuntu-rant? | 23:07 |
| ikonia | no | 23:07 |
| lesshaste | :) it was a joke | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | there's #ubuntu-offtopic | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | but even that has limits! | 23:07 |
| lesshaste | ah right | 23:07 |
| lesshaste | offofftopic | 23:07 |
| lesshaste | I think he's given up in any case | 23:07 |
| lesshaste | which is a shame as he may have a real bug there | 23:08 |
| lesshaste | which should be fixed | 23:08 |
| ikonia | I suggest we move on | 23:08 |
| lesshaste | in my case.. to sleep | 23:08 |
| lesshaste | bye all | 23:08 |
| limcore | hey what? wait I was PMing about some nonsense ban list on ubuntu | 23:16 |
| limcore | was a bit away. | 23:16 |
| BUGabundo | limcore: calm down please! | 23:18 |
| limcore | ikonia: what do you mean? If I report bugs about ubuntu being insecure? | 23:19 |
| BUGabundo | no | 23:20 |
| ikonia | limcore: it's not nonsense - you where ban dodging | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | if you just make a lot of senseless noise aobut it | 23:20 |
| ikonia | BUGabundo: exactly | 23:20 |
| limcore | BUGabundo: you seen the photo. This is a bug or not? | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | seems so | 23:20 |
| BUGabundo | I can't reproduce, and your bug lacks the info I asked | 23:21 |
| ikonia | this is common issue | 23:21 |
| limcore | ok I can update it | 23:21 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: known? | 23:23 |
| ikonia | not the issue the behaviour, lacks info | 23:23 |
| BUGabundo | ah | 23:23 |
| limcore | ikonia: as a side note, last time I debugged fully with gdb and reported to developers, the bug did not get fixed. It was in 2007, the bug exists still today (although now less conditions trigger it) | 23:32 |
| ikonia | limcore: I'm not interested with your nonsense - I'm just making it clear if you start your usual antics you will be removed | 23:33 |
| ikonia | limcore: it's interesting that you know how to use gdb to debug software, yet you where in #ubuntu earlier using another nick asking what "uname" did | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | calm down you two! | 23:34 |
| limcore | ikonia: pm? -offtopic? | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | lets see if we get a good quality bug, instead | 23:35 |
| ikonia | ? | 23:35 |
| BUGabundo | ikonia: ahahha not everyone know every thing | 23:35 |
| micahg | ping bdmurray | 23:46 |
| bdmurray | micahg: Hi | 23:53 |
| micahg | hi, any plans to make the firefox-lp scripts compatible with ff3.5? | 23:54 |
| bdmurray | No, I wasn't aware there was an issue. | 23:55 |
| micahg | maybe just the version # needs to be bumped | 23:55 |
| micahg | but it's greyed out in 3.5 | 23:55 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | most work on 3.6 | 23:56 |
| BUGabundo | but karma one doesn't! | 23:56 |
| micahg | I installed the package from teh ppa | 23:56 |
| micahg | it installed an extension | 23:56 |
| micahg | that's not compatible with 3.5 | 23:56 |
| micahg | or marked as such | 23:56 |
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