[00:02] well, i dont personally see a problem with that vanity factoid, aside from never having seen the need for it. i suppose we might be at the point that people who dont know might be starting to wander through, though [01:06] elky: it strikes me as a bad precendent. where do we stop? [01:06] do i add a factoid for Monty? [01:07] !python [01:07] python is a popular Object Oriented scripting language included in Ubuntu. For more on Python please see http://www.python.org [01:07] !guido [01:07] Sorry, I don't know anything about guido [01:07] mneptok: 'tis already there... [01:07] :P [01:08] !monty [01:08] Sorry, I don't know anything about monty [01:08] jpds: ? [01:09] mneptok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clPYfaTvHT0 [01:17] jpds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Widenius [01:19] mneptok: Oh, right. I've always preferred Postgres. [01:55] elky awake now ?? [01:55] busy right now [01:56] was just wondering if could get unbanned from ot chan [03:21] checking in to see if i can get unbanned in ot chan [03:44] dragon_ called the ops in #ubuntu (PATPAT) [05:55] Ich bin der Musikant mit Taschenrechner in der Hand! [07:53] hi some user using bad words [07:54] called micah [07:54] thank you [07:54] which channel? [07:55] nevermind [07:55] ubuntu' [07:55] nvm someone taking care of it [07:55] indus: it's | with that, not > [07:56] note - the feds is back [07:56] teh feds [07:56] ya sorry i forgot [07:56] thanks [07:56] "thefeds" even [07:56] indus: anything else? [07:57] * FloodBot3 removes exempt on emme!n=45c8ed67@gateway/web/flash/eris.tuxhacker.org/x-e30a8b2c7c32e665 <- oh really now? [07:57] ikonia: where? [07:57] Myrtti: he's in gentoo now [07:57] oh, ok [07:58] ikonia, correct me if i'm wrong, but the princess of propaganda *knows* full well she's banned from #u, yes? [07:59] hand on heart I don't know. I assume so [07:59] * emm (n=45c8ed67@gateway/web/flash/eris.tuxhacker.org/x-92210c1243a79951) has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:00] wth is she up to now? [08:00] it isn't her, it's her one-armed sister [08:00] there is no active ban in #u [08:00] she was actually in #u twice simultaneiously [08:00] ikonia, not even on her cloak? [08:01] her cloak has changed, but no [08:01] not that I can see either [08:01] wth, since when? [08:01] the only one that remains is #kubuntu-devel as hobbsee holds firm [08:02] who on earth removed them from #u? [08:04] looks ike there has not been one there for a while [08:05] i remember there being one there very recently [08:05] I think that was the fix-your-connection one [08:05] might be the -ot one i'm recalling [08:05] she came in and had that removed as her connection was stable [08:06] then there was an issue in -ot with popey with $someone pm'ing club-ubuntu links again [08:06] or 0uk [08:06] or -uk [08:07] iirc we made an agreement she could be in #ubuntu, but not -ot [08:07] ah, the memory man cometh [08:07] and did anyone else notice bigfuzzyj enter and leave -ot? is he still banned from there? [08:08] don't know who he is [08:08] ikonia, there was a troll from club in -women last night [08:09] well, had been lurking around for about a week, but started asking creepy questions such as if girls like beards and how many in the channel were married [08:10] "just making conversation" [08:12] Tm_T, what was it he told club? "i was polite and everything" [08:12] * elky headdesks [08:17] hi [08:17] ikonia: [08:17] hello [08:17] did you ban me? [08:17] yes [08:17] why why why? [08:18] i'm a long time ubuntu user [08:18] I want to install opera on my ubuntu comp, and you ban me? [08:18] because you keep asking which debian release is closest to ubuntu - I have asked you to stop many times, you didn't I removed you from the channel- you came back in and asked straight away [08:18] you then changed your nickname to try to get around the ban [08:18] I asked straight away as we are all told to. "Don't ask to ask. Just ask" [08:19] UbuntuLOVER: don't play dumb, you say me ask you twice to stop asking [08:19] UbuntuLOVER: you also saw me remove you and ask again [08:19] ikonia: at first i thought it was a glitch. [08:19] UbuntuLOVER: I know you saw me asking as you responded and told me to look at the list [08:19] ikonia: [08:19] yes, did you see the list? [08:20] UbuntuLOVER: I'm not discussing this - I'm discussing your lack of ability to follow polite requests [08:20] what's your request? [08:20] and this is not the first time you've asked about this debian / ubuntu versioning [08:20] UbuntuLOVER: my request was to stop asking - they are not the same [08:20] ikonia, may i ask another question? [08:20] to you. [08:20] please [08:22] I would like to install opera repository so that my opera browser would auto-update. What ought one to do? [08:22] ikonia: you there? [08:22] please what? [08:22] UbuntuLOVER: this is not a support channel, I'm discussing your inability to follow direction in the channel only [08:23] ikonia: i see. so what do i do now that you have banned/kicked [08:23] !guidelines | UbuntuLOVER [08:23] UbuntuLOVER: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [08:23] have a read through those [08:23] come back tommorow and we'll look at removing your ban [08:24] @mark [08:24] (mark [] []) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if was kicked from with the comment , if is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, is only needed when send in /msg [08:24] he sounds like fun [08:24] @mark #ubuntu-ops UbuntuLOVER also known as jeancalvin persistantly asks about debian->ubuntu version compariisons [08:24] The operation succeeded. [08:25] elky: a pain to be quite frank [08:25] * elky rewinds time and encloses that statement in sarcasm tags [08:26] work time [08:26] elky: I did get you [08:27] :) [08:27] ikonia: I think they wanted to know to get the .deb, but that's pretty irrelevant now [08:27] and opera have Ubuntu .debs anyway [08:33] cant say Im overly happy about this, but what do others think: [08:33] [06:20:26] <-- Flare183 (n=Flare183@botters/flare183) has quit ("1f u c4n r34d th1s u r34lly n33d t0 g37 l41d") [08:35] jussi01, not happy either. maybe utilise the wonder that is memoserv [08:35] memoserv +1 [08:35] we really should try use it more often [08:36] Maybe we should use it to send valentines to each other next February. [08:36] elky: feel free to go and do it, Im just running out for lunch, if nobody has done it by the time I get back, then Ill do it [08:36] Yeah... ignore me. [10:13] !mc [10:13] Sorry, I don't know anything about mc [10:13] @help [10:13] !help [10:13] Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [10:13] Alagos: can we help you with something? [10:13] yep [10:14] i`m interesting how to install ubottu in supybot? [10:15] will you help me? [10:15] i dont know how [10:16] how ubottu working? [10:16] i mean how to run it? [10:16] Alagos: does its wikipage tell something? [10:17] there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots [10:17] certainly some info there [10:20] i`m came from http://ubottu.com/ If you want him to join your channel ask in #ubuntu-ops. it`s mean that you came whith your own bot to the channel whitch invite you? [10:21] so you want to run your own bot, or do you want ubottu or its clone (run by us) to join? [10:23] Alagos, what channel? [10:23] * jussi01 waves [10:23] i`d like to rum my own bot, if it possible and if you don`t mind [10:24] elky: channel where i`m testing bot is #4ubuntu [10:25] Alagos: you are free to run your own bot in any channels you own. however, #*ubuntu* channels should only be used for official reasons [10:25] Alagos: you can ask about our custom plugins in #ubuntu-bots, but for basic supybot items please use #supybot [10:26] jussi01: i`ll change name of channel [10:26] Alagos: if you have an official ubuntu channel and want a clone, then you ask here, otherwise #supybot [10:26] :) [10:26] jussi01: i am use supybot already [10:27] Alagos: well then Im sure you know how to add plugins, thats all ours are [10:27] jussi01: thank you [10:27] no probs. [10:27] Alagos: anything else we can help you with?= [10:29] jussi01: you already helped enough. thank you [10:29] !idle | Alagos [10:29] Alagos: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [10:29] ;) [10:30] see you later [10:31] well he can stay if he wants to be asked a hundred times a day where he's banned from :P [10:31] sigh [10:31] why are people being stupid tonight [10:31] Flannel, checked the moon phase? [10:31] Flannel: its not just tonite [10:31] elky: It's half! [10:31] jussi01: I know [10:31] jussi01: but... [10:31] did someone memoserv flare? [10:31] Flannel, ok, so you check the same things i do then ;) [10:31] it makes me feel better to think it's isolated [10:32] jussi01, dont think so [10:32] I suppose it's mostly related to FF3.5 [10:44] if people want a rolling release, they're welcome to go for gentoo or whatever :P [10:44] debian [10:44] no reason to throw them to the wolves [10:45] LINUX MINT FOR THE WIN!!!!!1111 [10:45] except sending an ex-ubuntu person to debian is pretty much the same in terms of callousness [10:45] especially if they're the beg-for-help type [10:46] elky: Yeah, but at least it keeps them in the family. [10:46] deb has to take over the world somehow, afterall. [10:46] ikonia: ping [10:46] Save us all from rpms [10:47] i can just see that in a prayer... "and dear $deity, give us our daily bread, and save us all from RPMs..." [10:48] Flannel, i'd need a new job. my boss is allergic to non-redhat systems :( [10:49] elky_work: I think there's a pill you can take for that [10:49] sh: Linux: command not found [10:49] better living through science and all [10:49] poopy [10:49] Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-128.1.10.el5 #1 SMP Thu May 7 10:39:21 EDT 2009 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [10:49] i mean srsly ^ save me now [10:49] ugh, too much space [11:12] hello..? [11:12] CKY: Hi. [11:12] CKY: You're not in #ubuntu [11:13] what do you mean..? [11:13] CKY: What channel were you attempting to join? [11:13] you need to change your ident to join #ubuntu [11:13] CKY: you need to change your ident before you can join #ubuntu [11:14] how i do it..? [11:14] how did you set it? [11:18] CKY: it's the "fuckyou" part [11:19] ok sorry.. [11:48] Uhm, guys. [11:48] Is it me or does LimCore ring a bell at the back of my mind? [11:48] very well known troll [11:49] -bugs then. [11:49] 'another day, another epic Ubuntu failure' and the like when he entered #ubuntu in the past [12:18] tsimpson: seems like we havoe our own FF3.... 4.3RC1!! [12:18] grumbles [12:19] hehe [12:19] I don't remember there being much interest in the beta's, who would have guessed those two little letters would make all that difference [12:20] of course they make the difference [12:21] well, to me, RC1 does _not_ mean "It's finished!!!" ;) [12:21] tsimpson: for kids it is [12:41] jg_ seems like a t r o l l [12:42] no kidding [12:42] t-roll, new fastfood [12:42] haha [12:42] easy to get, gives stomach issues [12:43] and leaves you cranky and hungry [12:50] bazhang: I /msg'ed him the apt-get command for flash about 4 minutes ao. [12:50] ago* [12:50] bazhang: he might have it installed already [12:51] jpds, strange that he said it installed in just 4 seconds though [12:51] Myrtti, could be [12:51] bazhang: Some of us have gig-links ;) [12:52] jpds, yeah here too :) [12:52] Well, he's using http://www.telenor.dk/english/index.aspx [13:07] jpds: where is/was limcoe [13:07] jussi01: ping back [13:07] limcore even [13:08] ikonia: rmaj? [13:08] is that him ? [13:08] ahhh yes [13:08] it was him [13:09] Yes, otherwise I wouldn't have said so. [13:09] jpds: sorry I didn't see that part I didn't know if you knew who I was talking about [13:10] when was he active ? [13:10] earlier today [13:10] I saw him this morning [13:10] (my time) [13:11] ah sorry, time is relative [13:12] ikonia: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/07/02/%23ubuntu-bugs.html - 10:19 onwards. [13:32] ikonia: re-ping? [13:33] ikonia: pm [13:43] jussi01: ta [13:43] :) [14:12] someone else please. Myrtti? [14:12] if i do it now, it'll be 'too personal' [14:13] christel, can ircd-7 please have an IQ filter? :( [14:19] elky kicked me out of #ubuntu-offtopic over ""Unzip, strip, touch, grep, mount, fsck, fsck, fsck, more, yes, fsck, fsck, fsck, unmount, sleep." [14:20] GOOD FOR HER! [14:20] in reality, she didn't [14:21] she kicked you out, because you showed considerable amount of not understanding the guidelines [14:22] oh, i thought it was outright refusal to even consider them [14:22] elky: you'd really know better than me ;-) just a suggestion [14:23] well he can choose which it was. works for me either way. [14:26] qe2eqe: so, anyway... what's your point? what part of this do you want to discuss? [14:32] qe2eqe: please part this channel if you have no further business. idling is not allowed here [14:32] So warm, so kind, so gentle. Thankyou, my happy shepherds. [14:36] anyone would think i banned him [16:03] I have whacky moment, I decided to join to #u and #u-ot [16:05] save yourself [16:06] I cannot be saved [22:11] ikonia: hi [22:11] can you now unban me [22:11] please [22:11] can someone unban me [22:11] please [22:12] hello [22:14] be patient [22:15] what should i wait for? [22:15] Seeker`: ? [22:16] it was ikonia that banned you? [22:18] Seeker`: yes. [22:18] now i'm penitent [22:18] i've paid my dues [22:18] and am ready to leave the prison [22:18] do you have the key? [22:19] you will have to wait for ikonia to deal with it [22:20] do i have to be in irc for the unban to happen? [22:20] can he just unban while i'm offline [22:20] ? [22:20] he will probably want to speak to you before he does it [22:20] can we set a time? [22:20] i don't want to just hang around in this room [22:21] can we do so via email? [22:21] i cant set a time for him [22:21] i see his name in the list of people in this room. [22:21] he isn't active at the moment [22:21] can i send him a message while he's inactive? [22:21] come back in a few hours and see if he is back [22:21] if not, come back tomorrow sometime [22:21] Seeker`: all right. [22:22] if you see him here, please give him my regards. [22:22] and pass on my message, please. [22:22] thanks. [22:28] pronoy called the ops in #ubuntu () [22:28] dragon_ called the ops in #ubuntu (Jennyyy) [22:28] mickster04 called the ops in #ubuntu (jennyyy) [22:34] !away > TamCore[oFF] [22:46] how to add to ubottu's bank ? [22:48] bank? [22:48] i mean how to add into ubottu's bank of knowledge [22:48] i have written a small tut for noobs [22:49] and i was hoping it'll be made available freely [22:49] you mean a factoid? [22:49] ah yes !! factoid [22:49] had forgotten that [22:50] you see its a more simplified version of an earlier factoid [22:51] Seeker` you there ? [22:54] of what factoid? [22:55] Myrtti adding a repo and bit of a help with flash plugin [22:55] immense no. of questions [22:55] can you give straightforward suggestions [22:55] because you're not giving anything to work with here [22:55] Myrtti here's a pastebin http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/208562/ [22:56] just a bit of hand waving and waffling ;-) [22:56] sorry for not being clear [22:56] by all means carry on please [22:56] right. [23:00] stew: limcore is now on line - you said to ping you [23:00] ikonia: ubuntuLover wanted unbanning [23:02] Seeker`: yup saw thank you, told him to come back tommorow so he came back a few hours later [23:02] I'll sort out tommorow [23:02] ikonia: indeed. thanks. [23:02] stew: thanks [23:02] Myrtti there ? [23:07] is the person responsible for the ubuntu irc logs on your website on irc? [23:07] pronoy: um, so what do you actually want for a factoid to say? [23:08] Myrtti how to enable the repo and how to solve the most basic problem of getting youtube to work for noobs [23:08] the first timers have repeatedly asked the same questions over and over again [23:09] it's enabled by default [23:09] * tomaw throws Myrtti something pink in return for contact details of whoever is responsible for those logs [23:10] ikonia the repos are added but not enabled i am talking about the 3rd party software sources [23:10] tomaw: #canonical-sysadmin might know better? I don't know [23:10] pronoy: then they are 3rd party and needed adding [23:10] pronoy: it's that simple [23:10] Myrtti: ta :) [23:11] ikonia yes but to explain it 100 times to every new person who comes on board requires a few steps simplified version....so....... [23:12] pronoy: there's a limit to the length of the factoids [23:12] pronoy: so we cannot add that *MONSTER* into a factoid [23:12] Myrtti you can edit it or you can just link it to the earlier one [23:12] pronoy: there are wiki pages [23:12] you don't have to display the whole thing !! [23:13] pronoy: just point them at the wiki page [23:13] ikonia yes but they requrire simplification [23:13] pronoy: plus 3rd party repos should have documentation about adding them on their sight [23:13] pronoy: no - it doesn't if you can't follow the process of adding a line to a gui/text file - you should'nt use it [23:14] ikonia: to a basic new user a 3rd party repo holds no meaning whatsoever ..they want to install software or just get started with youtube [23:14] pronoy: they don't need a 3rd party repo for youtube [23:15] ikonia how do you ask them to enable the flash plugin then ? [23:15] download from adobe ? [23:15] all the time > [23:15] install the flashplugin-nonfree package - or follow the guide on the wiki [23:15] ikonia to install that you need to enable the official repo for 3rd party [23:16] !info flashplugin-nonfree [23:17] No info here? [23:17] flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer (transitional package). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 10.0.22.87ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) [23:17] look all i can say is to a new person its hard to understand what a repo is or how to go about, the wiki pages are good but they do need simplification . You don't have to add that factoid just simplify it so that we don't have to explain it to every noob everytime he's discovering linux [23:17] thats all [23:17] Actually that's transitional, ikonia, new one is flashplugin-installer apparently [23:18] pronoy: You don't need to enable a third party repository for flash, it's in multiverse. [23:19] either way if its not possible (i can understand) i'll direct them to my website where i'll post it [23:19] no problem [23:19] and thanks Flannel [23:19] didn't know that [23:19] pronoy: there you go - no problem then [23:19] thanks for your time ikonia Myrtti [23:19] no need for any other websites [23:20] ikonia Basic issue was how to enable the repos [23:20] the flash thing was secondary [23:20] read the thing first [23:20] pronoy: it's a one line update that is well documented in the wiki [23:20] ikonia ok...another website it is [23:20] ... [23:20] another website? what? [23:21] Flannel: he wanted to have a factoid point at his website - end of discussion, all the other stuff was just justiciation [23:21] ikonia: Gotcha [23:22] stew: you failed to get through [23:25] ikonia: i'm struggling to, did he join? [23:26] or is he doing something somewhere? [23:26] stew: #ubuntu-bugs "wait I was PMing about some nonsense ban list on ubuntu" [23:26] stew: same trolling behvaiour in #ubuntu-bugs as #debian #ubuntu etc etc [23:27] yes, he thinks the ban is nonsense [23:27] yes [23:27] hence why he tried so hard to dodge it [23:27] he was banned for life [23:27] he is saying it would be trivial to evade [23:27] but he is clearly understanding that he should not evade it [23:27] he didn't manage very well the other day [23:28] no, he didn't [23:30] does someone have handy the nicks he was using the other day? [23:31] I can grab them [23:31] j_f_kenedy [23:31] right [23:32] gzojw [23:32]