=== erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [02:32] Hey, having trouble rebuilding a RAID0 array. [02:32] Whey I run mdadm --create I get /dev/sda1: device or resource busy and for /dev/sdb2 (and two other partitions) I get "this device appears to be part of an array". Any suggestions? [02:32] /dev/sda1 is unmounted and is part type linux raid autodetect [02:51] What is irda0? [02:57] How much space does Ubuntu server need to install? [02:57] Depends on what you are serving. [02:59] How much data will the installer install? [02:59] minus the content I put on [02:59] WHARRGARBL: half a GiB is probably a recommended minimum for the root OS [02:59] You could squeeze it down further, or blow it up larger. [02:59] Usually I allocate two to four GiB to the root filesystem, simply because I'm working with large (1TiB) disks and an extra GiB isn't noticable. [03:01] Does ubuntu server support Intel 22000BG wireless cards? [03:01] I'm installing it on a laptop [03:01] I do not know. [03:02] WHARRGARBL: Ask the google. I am pretty sure it does. [03:02] WHARRGARBL: lspci output will help. [03:03] WHARRGARBL: if you are trying to do a WAP, you might be more interested in finding out if it can be put in promiscuous mode. [03:03] Wireless access point? [03:03] no [03:03] I have a hardware WAP [03:08] is it in restricted section or in main? [03:08] samba-common_3.3.5-1ubuntu2_i386.deb [03:11] Ubuntu server is cool, automatic updates :) [03:12] qiyong: ask apt-cache policy [03:12] qiyong: that is, run "apt-cache policy samba-common" [03:21] how can i post my problem without flooding the screen [03:21] !pastebin [03:21] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [03:22] thanks [03:35] Hello [03:36] i am pulling out my hair on this issue i am having . Please please can somone take a look and tell me what they think http://paste.ubuntu.com/207882/ [03:37] What is a virtual machine host [03:37] on the options for installing ubuntu server [03:37] I don't get it [03:37] You mean it install vmware [03:41] WHARRGARBL: it installs virtualization infrastructure which does the same job as VMware, but is not encumbered by proprietary licensing. [03:41] ok [03:41] Servers. What is the best way to run VLC? I want to install a simple Xorg and VLC. Nothing more. Nothing less. [03:42] mobi-sheep: that's not a server. [03:47] twb: I know. I'm running a XBMC Live and it's jerky so I wanted to try installing Xorg and VLC. I figured you guys would knew the answers. [03:47] I don't know what an XBMC is. [03:47] Probably because you guys do install a simple GUI sometimes in a while or at least gave out commands? [03:47] mobi-sheep: we generally disapprove of that. [03:48] twb: Xbox Media Center. It's a nice HTPC (also can be a server). [03:52] XBMC is software that runs on an Xbox? [03:53] twb: Well. Originally, yes. But now it's able to run on Mac + Linux + Windows. [03:53] twb: But that's not the point. Basically, I got XBMC. No GUI. Nothing else. I know TTY too. However, I was wondering what package I would need to run a simple Xorg so I can run VLC under X. [03:54] OK, so you are running XBMC as a package on your ubuntu server? [03:55] I used XBMC Live iso. It's messed up so naturally I'm going to try building it out of minimal.iso because XBMC Live does not configure graphic card or anything. It just ran. Kinda felt like I'm missing out on certain factors. [03:56] twb: Well it didn't mess up, but the video jerks every 5 seconds or so forget XBMC Live. I found a guide that'll let me build it out of mini.iso which I will do. [03:58] twb: The real question would be -- What packages do I need to run applications under X simple as possible? [04:03] Sorry, I was just trying to understand what you were doing. [04:04] To get *just* X running, you want to install xserver-xorg-core, or the larger xserver-xorg package. [04:04] You will probably also want to install packages that e.g. start X when you turn the computer on, and provide 3D acceleration, and maybe also packages that provide a window manager and a terminal emulator. [04:04] For details about that you should really ask another channel, since graphical stuff is offtopic for this channel. [04:06] twb: Ahh. Thank you. [04:06] twb: I'll figure out what I'm trying to accomplish. ;3 [04:08] How do I use WiFi in ubuntu serer? [04:08] server? [04:09] WHARRGARBL: the same way you use it anywhere else -- install the appropriate drivers. [04:10] FFFFFFUUUUUUUU [04:15] i am pulling out my hair on this issue i am having . Please please can somone take a look and tell me what they think http://paste.ubuntu.com/207882/ [04:22] Guest14623: I guess your routing table is getting messed up because the pppoe's on each nic are fighting [05:02] twb -ya that sounds about right , would you know how to fix that or point me in the right direction [05:02] Guest14623: too hard for me right now, sorry. [05:03] do you know what i should be changing [05:03] i have looked all over the internet for days [05:04] even if you could tell me what area i should be working on [05:06] Guest14623: I don't know, sorry. [05:16] twb is there anyone else that you know of who could help me out [05:25] NFI [06:08] Holy cow...i'm a full ubuntu-server convert now...never going back to CENTOS [06:12] Guest14623: Look at the pppd options set by pppoeconf in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider and see if any should be altered or removed for your dual pppoe situation? [06:14] jmarsden - thanks , i'll have a look [06:15] No problem. [06:25] is Ante here? [06:29] scott_nwoktech: Use /whois NAME to see what channels NAME is currently in. [06:31] thanks [06:32] he must be out snowboarding; we had an extensive email conv over the weekend vis a vis a HA VM/Samba cluster. He seemed quite eager to point me in the right directions for some guidance, if he couldn't provide it himself [06:36] i'm extremely in need of some guidance re kvm live-migration on a DRBD | pacemaker stack. If KVM isn't up to it then i assume i can install Xen on ubuntu just fine, and with the latest stable, unlike centos:) [06:46] New bug: #394570 in openssh (main) "Backspace via SSH only deletes last byte of characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394570 [07:50] New bug: #394583 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394583 [07:59] Hi - what runtime is best for apache and mysql startup scripts, at the moment I have one in rc4.d - but I suspected rc2 woudl be better because its in text mode as oposed to multi-user etc etc..... ? [08:36] PC_Nerd101: default runlevel in ubuntu is 2, so rc2.d is the best place. But the standard way to install rc-scripts is with update-rc.d which installs in all rc*.d folders. === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [09:25] is there any realtime traffic monitor tool? [09:26] i know some, like bwm, traffshow, but i ask the most popular ones here. [09:28] qiyong: qiyong I think bwm-ng and vnstat are fairly popular (vnstat isn't *exactly* realtime though) [09:29] who needs the most popular one as long as it does the job well? [09:29] bwm-ng replacing bwm? negge [09:29] qiyong: actually I haven't used bwm, just bwm-ng, so I don't know the difference [09:29] personal choice I guess [09:32] negge: is vnstat running as a daemon? [09:33] negge: oh, it's a cron [09:36] New bug: #394610 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: le sous-processus post-installation script a retourn? une erreur de sortie d'?tat 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394610 [09:40] Anyone know how to automatically run a custom script on insertion of a CD on Ubuntu server ? [09:40] For backup purposes: just insert, script starts like magic, wait a while and doen [09:46] jaunty-security doesn't have universe or multiverse [09:46] so this line is incorrect: [09:46] deb http://localhost/ubuntu/ jaunty-security main restricted universe multiverse [09:46] am i right? [12:13] hi there is there a reliable method of auditing user passwords on 9.04 ? [12:13] given that sha256 is in use ( / sha2) === ogra__ is now known as ogra === [1]th0m is now known as th0m [12:38] ah er sorry i meant sha512 [13:42] I have a virt that will not shutdown -h now is there a way I can figure out what is wrong? [13:44] heath|work: Does it give you any kind of message when you try it? [13:44] it indicates that it is going down then nothing happens [13:45] even if I use virt-manager with a right click and shutdown nothing happens. [13:47] Does syslog show anything? [14:03] nothing... this is weird [14:03] V weird :) [14:04] well... I guess I will just kill it. [14:06] New bug: #394703 in sysstat (universe) "iostat -xn crashes with stack smashing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394703 [14:08] that's such a scary command: destroy [14:10] http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/ <---NICE! [14:17] anyone using paver, fabric or another automated tool for server setup/deployment? [14:24] Hi y'all! [14:25] I'm migrating from an old server to a new one, and while trying to move all my LDAP tree I found that the userPassword attribute it's not following the same encryption [14:25] is there any way to force it? [14:31] what was it using? [14:31] the default now, if unspecified, is ssha [14:31] for reading passwords, though, it shouldnt matter since the hash type is before it in the attribute like.. {HASH}password [14:40] I know [14:40] but I've tried the same string in both servers [14:40] and they gave me different outputs [14:40] however, I've tried a simple one, and the result is the same [14:40] a bit confusing... [14:48] whats in your config file? [14:58] can I use the ubuntu usb creator to create a fedora boot stick? [15:00] dbaker: I use Fabric [15:00] right now, primarily for OS setup/install, and some deployment of Django apps [15:05] fabric executes locally and is in Python, is the main difference [15:05] it also has some extra layers on top of common shell tasks that sometimes make stuff easier (i.e. a contains method that's just a wrapper around grep, etc) [15:06] bitprophet: what do you mean by: 'run locally' ? [15:06] bitprophet: on my machine and not on the server I'm trying to setup? [15:06] well a bash script would have to be copied to the remote machine and then executed there, whereas fabric runs locally and executes commands over ssh [15:06] correct [15:07] bitprophet: are paver and fabric suppose to serve the same purpose? [15:07] I've not used Paver much, but in my understanding there is some overlap but paver is more of a build tool whereas Fabric focuses more on the deployment/scripting [15:07] but there's probably a lot that could be done in either one just fine [15:07] I'd try both and see which one you like more [15:10] bitprophet: what do you mean by "a build tool" and "deployment/scripting" ? [15:10] bitprophet: if I want to setup a server with nginx, django, postgresql... is this a deployment task? [15:16] I am getting an error on --suite=intrepid for vmbuilder. There is an intrepid JeOS, right? [15:40] hello people! I'm having a little trouble automagically updating from gutsy to hardy. The update is being started by a script in run, that has no frontend. [15:41] aptitude is called with this: /usr/bin/aptitude -o Aptitude::Log::=/tmp/aptitude-log -q -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confnew -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confmiss [15:41] it seems this is not enough? [15:42] it gets stuck with the libssl package --- which tries to ask which services to restart, but i want it to start them anyways [15:42] sry, i forget - additional aptitude parameters: "-s -V -y 2>&1" [15:43] dbaker: sorry, didn't notice your reply :( [15:43] dbaker: in my totally non scientific terminology, "build" involves more setting stuff up locally, compiling, writing out config or xml files, etc; "deploy" or "script" means to install or modify software or applications [15:44] but I'm pretty sure paver can execute commands over ssh, and fabric can set up dependencies for easy local building, so they technically overlap. the differences would be in syntax and the extra tools provided to make certain types of tasks easier [15:45] (which is why I suggested to try both :)) [15:52] sou novo por aqui... um ótimo dia a todos!!! [15:54] <_ruben> !br [15:54] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado. [15:55] bitprophet: thank you. I'll will [15:55] :) Good luck. === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl [16:04] anybody familiar with michael jang's books? [16:07] or asked a little shorter: What do I need to do, so debconf is NOT asking ANY questions and using the default values and actions? [16:11] stiVal: when I need to noninteractively run apt stuff and it hangs with debconf asking questions, I've found I often have to figure out the name of the debconf "setting" (not sure what the right term is) and stick that in debconf's database with debconf-set-selections [16:12] so for example when I autoinstall systems with mysql or postfix, I do e.g. "echo mysql-server mysql-server/root_password password | debconf-set-selection" [16:12] to set a default mysql root password [16:12] also pretend I had the quotes in the right place there [16:13] another example, echo "postfix postfix/relayhost string mail.my.domain" | debconf-set-selection [16:13] /end blather [16:13] if you've ever dealt with preseed files, it's the same format since it's all just debconf [16:14] yes i have ... it's just really anoying, that there is no way to be sure that NO package is asking questions. i don't care what the configurations look like since there is a middleware that takes care of my configurations - everything else can and should be default (no passwords or whatever) [16:16] not every system is the same or has the same configuration - that's why the middleware is there - taking care of every package that could ask a question in all the different cases is nearly impossible for me [16:16] but thanks - I'll look into that, if at least this time i can make it work your way ;) [16:25] yea, I hear you. [16:25] good luck [16:34] aww [16:34] i was expecting 140mb/s in raid10 [16:34] and i am still getting silly 70mb/s [16:34] wtf [16:35] Timing buffered disk reads: 216 MB in 3.02 seconds = 71.59 MB/sec [16:51] why is everyone idling in this channel [16:52] a1fa: I belive the answer might be found in the combination of the applications irssi and screen :) [16:52] hehe [16:52] andol [16:53] i was expecting 150+ mb/s in raid 10 configuration [16:53] where in fact i am only getting 70 mb/s [16:53] a1fa: sorry, not much of a storage person. [17:02] anybody build live ubuntu cds to update dell firmware? [17:03] I had to use fedora :) [17:06] jmedina : traitor [17:06] is there a link to the cd image please? [17:06] Does it update desktop bios and firmware [17:06] or poweredge only? [17:06] a1fa: why? I just used fedora to upgrade firmware and then install ubuntu [17:06] :) [17:07] jmedina: Why did you have to use fedora? [17:07] :) cd linky :P [17:09] ScottK is there any other easy alternative? [17:10] jmedina: No idea. I'm trying to understand what it was about Fedora that made it work where Ubuntu wouldn't. [17:11] no need to reinvent the wheel [17:11] ah... [17:11] ivoks care, gdje si [17:11] i did firmware upgrade [17:11] well I didnt know there were ubuntu support :) [17:12] mm but afaik, I dont have ubuntu on that host [17:12] it is lenny [17:13] I am having difficulties getting quota to work in Jaunty with dovecot... [17:14] jmedina: if you're interested, i just posted the latest openldap package built with ssl [17:14] should dovecot log that a plug in is loaded? [17:14] a1fa: ? [17:14] wanted a run a murmur server on my webserver - should I download it normally through apt - then create a new user just to run mumble? [17:14] or is it okay to run it through my admin [17:14] CentOS normally I would create a new user for it [17:15] ivoks : Ante, prijatelju.. za kaj si takav [17:16] must be a slovenian :) [17:16] Sam-I-Am: thanks, I will take a look [17:16] no [17:17] Tvoj susjed iz Splita [17:17] jmedina: most of the other stuff was also recently updated [17:19] how does this dell reposatory work for apt sources [17:21] is that firmware update for raid controller? [17:21] da [17:22] what directory does apt read the sources from on the server> [17:22] Ign http://linux.dell.com jaunty Release.gpg [17:23] good luck with that [17:23] http://ivoks.blogspot.com/2008/04/ubuntu-804-and-dell-poweredge-1650.html [17:25] when you enable a plugin in protocol imap, do you need to also enable that plugin in lda for dovecot? [17:25] lda is local delivery agent [17:26] ivoks : vec sam imao problema sa tim.. it's all fixed [17:26] it doesn't know what imap is [17:27] i just can't figure out what I am doing wrong, should the quota appear in Thunderbird? [17:44] It looks like everything is configured correct, but there is no maildirsize file in Maildir... [17:48] you enabled quota plugin? [17:48] plugin { [17:48] quota = maildir [17:48] } [17:48] hi all, we're a small company (7 users) and my boss has asked me to install a groupware solution, so first i was looking at zimbra, which looks great but you never know what will happen to it if microsoft ever buys yahoo (well, actually we probably all know what will happen ;)) so i am not so sure i want to use it, next on the list are openxchange and opengroupware, does anyone here have experience with either 3 of these solutions? or other recom [17:48] worth looking into for that matter? thanks! [17:48] i've worked with zimbra [17:48] ivoks, quota = maildir:User quota [17:49] jeiworth: Most of Zimbra is free software. You might also look at what proprietary bits they add on and if they aren't critical, don't worry about it. [17:49] jeiworth, I have used eGroupware, open-exchange(like a lot), and Zimbra [17:49] heath|work: which dovecot version is that? [17:50] 1.1.11 [17:50] for jaunty [17:50] ivoks: ok, what is your impression? especially regarding outlook, entourage and kontact compatibility? :) [17:50] it was used in ubuntu-only environment [17:50] ScottK: yes, i think a lot of it is under the gpl, right [17:50] and everybody used web interface [17:51] jeiworth: Or various other Free licenses, yes. [17:51] heath|work: open-xchange you like a lot or you have been using a lot? :) [17:51] I offer zimbra as a solution to get rid of outlook and any other desktop client [17:51] jeiworth, I like it a lot and will be using it a lot as I replace other servers [17:51] ivoks: i doubt i can convince the hardcore windows users here to only use the web interface [17:51] heath|work: http://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/1.1 [17:52] ivoks, that's what I have run through to get what I have. [17:52] jeiworth: afaik, outlook plugin isn't free in any way [17:52] heath|work: what about egroupware? the advantage would be that its in the ubuntu repos but probably an older version [17:52] heath|work: you said you enabled plugin in imap protocol? [17:53] ubuntu reps our way out dated when it comes to egroupware [17:53] zimbra desktop works fine, and also uses lots of resources, so the better choice is use web interface, and of course train your users :) [17:53] ivoks: well, that is the problem of my boss, i dont think it would be a problem paying som bucks for a decent stable plugin [17:53] Although I saw eBox was integrating eGroupware into it [17:53] OTOH if you're using Outlook on your desktops, a non-free plugin shouldn't worry you too much [17:54] jmedina: hehe yeah, but some users simply don't want to be taught ;) [17:55] jeiworth: well they have no choice, it is the cost of migrating... [17:55] ivoks, in imap I have: mail_plugins = autocreate quota [17:55] autocreate is working perfect [17:55] ok, so open-xchange or zimbra it is...hmm...zimbra needs to be installed on a dedicated (virtual) machine iirc [17:55] jeiworth: most of my implementations requiere that, no deskto client [17:56] for zimbra, i'd suggest install it and never touch it again [17:56] :) [17:56] jeiworth, we used zimbra but it would allow read receipts and everyone was pissed [17:56] jmedina: i prefer that too but you know, some people just _want_ to use their outlook no matter what. :-/ [17:56] they may have fixed that by now though [17:57] heath|work: can't that be deactivated globally? [17:57] jeiworth: jejejee, then they will loose all great features of web interface [17:57] :) [17:57] take care, gtg [17:57] jmedina: they are mostly sales-ppl, what do they know about great features? ;o) [17:58] jeiworth: that what training is about :) [17:58] for zimbra, i'd suggest install it and never touch it again <-- :D [17:59] you can really improve your user colaboration with zimbra [17:59] when it works.... [17:59] jo jo jo [18:00] lol [18:01] ok, i think before i screw up my server i'll install zimbra and open-xchange in 2 vmachines and see how fast i get confused :) [18:01] thanks @ll! [18:01] jeiworth: dont forget to read official documentation [18:01] zimbra has a big user community with good articles in wikis and forums support [18:02] most problemas I had were already solved in a forum thread [18:02] openxchange, jeo jo jo, their outlook plugin never work [18:03] so Raid 10 [18:03] on 2650 Dell is not really Raid 10 [18:05] fick [18:09] jeiworth: dont forget to read official documentation <-- i _always_ read the friendly manual ;) === bogeyd6_ is now known as bogeyd6 [20:14] ....lawl [20:35] i had to hack dell's update script [20:35] it sucks nutts [20:35] hey all, i think my server's PSU just crapped out--the computer is completely dead (I even tried jumping the PSU to no avail). The problem is the server's hard drive... [20:35] ? [20:35] when i try to connect it to a different computer, that computer becomes as dead as my server [20:35] ok [20:36] ok [20:36] so your hd is fried too [20:36] how are you going to fix it [20:36] is that normal? a dead HD preventing a computer even attempting to boot up? [20:37] scsi? sata? pata? ide? [20:37] sata [20:37] ok.. so unplug the sata port [20:37] and leave the power hooked to it [20:37] turn on server [20:38] if it powers on then hook SATA port, and unhook power [20:38] try again [20:39] a1fa: server is dead [20:39] a1fa: won't power on with or without sata drive power / sata chords plugged in [20:40] brb, i'll try what you said with a different box [20:43] yes please [20:43] anybody have a pre-build iso for dell firmware upgrade? [20:43] a1fa: okay, so with the power alone it won't turn on [20:44] with sata connection only, it turns on [20:44] with both, nothing obviously [20:44] ok [20:44] your hard-drive is messed up [20:44] its creating some kind of short [20:44] i bet your server's power supply is just the safety switch [20:44] hey, I'm trying to sell my CTO on using ubuntu-server over RHEL; anyone know of a good list of big names using ubuntu-server? [20:44] or blown fuse [20:45] CTO? [20:45] ;P [20:45] kick him in the shin [20:45] get him drunk [20:45] haha [20:45] chief technical officer (iirc) [20:45] drag his ass out in middle of nowhere [20:45] and let him walk back [20:45] in the meantime: install ubuntu [20:46] ;) [20:46] even Red Hat is using ubuntu [20:46] to develop RHEL [20:46] :P [20:46] haha [20:46] i rest my case [20:46] a1fa: where's the safety switch on most PSUs? [20:46] back [20:46] or fuse is inside [20:46] check your house fuse [20:46] hrm [20:47] what server? [20:47] Hi all - quick question has any one tried unattended upgrades (autoupdates) on ubuntu-server [20:47] a piece of shit p4 i had lying around [20:47] there you go [20:48] the PSU was making a crazy high pitched sound all day yesterday [20:48] i've tried it on 8.04.2 and 9.04. I often see updates available but they only seem to get applied if I manually do an apt-get update and then wait one night. Surely theres a setting to apply it quicker [20:48] ok [20:48] are you sure its not the hard-drive [20:48] that was making noise? [20:48] yeah, i'm sure [20:48] divan : apt-get dist-ugprade [20:48] i turned it off and back on again [20:48] jason__ : its trashed [20:48] it might have friend your hard-drive [20:48] the HD? [20:48] fried* [20:48] yeah [20:48] both [20:48] PSU nd HD [20:48] yeah, that's what i'm thinking... [20:48] shit happens [20:48] damn [20:49] hopefully I know you have backups [20:49] :) [20:49] i have backups that aren't nearly as recent as i'd like [20:49] never got around to setting up a raid array [20:49] oh well [20:49] :P [20:49] suck-ah! [20:49] hehe [20:49] i am dealing with crap myself [20:49] at least i wasn't paying $10 / month to share a computer with 200 people ;P [20:50] Dell 26500 raid10 is not really [20:50] raid10 [20:50] alfa: I know I can apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y however thats not the point - the point is unattended - the ubuntu recommended way as per documentation doesn't work very well. [20:50] divan [20:50] ask for your money back and help fix the documentation [20:50] why the hell do you do unattended upgrades [20:50] anyway [20:50] you are just asking for trouble [20:52] alfa: Its not ask for trouble its a good security thing to do, it emails you the results anyway. In some scenarios it good practice. I understand I can contribute to the documentation - thats for pointing out the obvious [20:52] :) [20:52] thanks for making ubuntu better, divan! [20:52] My question was because this being the ubuntu-server channel you would think someone tried the ubuntu server suggested documentaion practice and has some feedback regarding it. [20:56] good point [20:57] hi [20:58] ih [20:59] I have an ubuntu server running squid and apache. I installed ebox and sarg. Ebox is working fine but when I try to access the squid-reports from the lan I get a network timeout error. Although... if I use links to access it from the server I can do it with no problem. Maybe its an apache problem or something else? [21:00] no [21:00] it probably has access list set to 127.0.0.1 [21:00] or something along those lines [21:00] how would I resolve this issue? where can I disable that? [21:01] in apache´s site configuration? [21:02]