[00:00] pnema, yes [00:00] im stuck on the last part [00:00] usr13: is this line ok? /dev/sda1 /media/datadisk ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro [00:00] anyone here have experience with MTP-tools at CLI? [00:00] Jimmio, are you on 9.04? [00:00] /root/Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0$ i cant install once im here [00:00] tormod: Yep [00:00] usr13: what is the command to restart X? Thanks [00:00] pnema, log out and in again [00:01] thanks tormod [00:01] is there another channel where people might know about device_nomsi=xyz? [00:01] rhinoserious: looks like ubuntu nvidia driver doesnt like my onboard motherboard video card,,,, works find with an add on video card :( [00:01] PATPAT: if you type Dr_Willis he might see you in this traffic [00:01] anyone here have experience with MTP-tools at CLI? [00:01] LogicalGhost: 'sudo lshw -C network' would give you what you're looking for [00:01] I know wireless cards can have on/off switches because the Windows computer I'm working on right now has one, but it's a big switch on the front - is it possible to have an off switch inside the unit? [00:01] PATPAT: i.e. Dr_Willis: my question here [00:02] PATPAT: how old are you? [00:02] tormod: What exactly is pnema trying to do? [00:02] listen this is my 3 day using linux [00:02] give me a brake [00:02] patpat: lol [00:02] geirha: Hey thats. It was hard to figure out those codes at first but I think I have a pretty cool thing going. I'm gonna color code hostnames and usernames since I only really use 2-3 [00:02] Jimmio: thousands of possible reasons. Be more specific. [00:02] usr13, low resolution only [00:02] Hi, I installed NFS server (nfs-kernel- and nfs-common) and since that no samba shares are viewable from windows clients, any idea ? [00:02] I just installed firefox-3.5 from the mozilla repository, but "Firefox Web Browser" in my apps menu still opens 3.0. [00:03] anyone here have experience with MTP-tools at CLI? [00:03] bucky: he is 3 days old. Give him a brake! [00:03] PATPAT: sudo ./Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0.sh [00:03] !ff 35 [00:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about ff 35 [00:03] !firefox 35 [00:03] tomsku: Oh, ok. [00:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox 35 [00:03] !epicfail [00:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about epicfail [00:03] ff 3.5 ??? [00:03] usr13: did you see the line i posted for you to look at? [00:03] PATPAT: if that is the case, spend a little time to get to know your system before trying to turn it into a christmas tree. [00:03] bucky: Huh? what files ehere? the mac4lin thing can install things 'system wide' as root.. the script asks if you want to do so, [00:03] Come on ubottu, give up the info! [00:03] I has a shut down problem, can anybody help? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/med9c2a7 [00:03] ff 3.0 works just fine for me ;) [00:03] for firefox 3.5 see planet.ubuntu.com [00:03] evon: Sorry, must have missed it. [00:03] bucky: you do NOT need to do 'sudo ./Mac4lininstaller.sh' [00:04] Dr_Willis: oh my bad [00:04] como instalo xmms en ubuntu 9.04 [00:04] !xmms | kelvy_ [00:04] kelvy_: xmms is no longer being developed, see http://bugs.debian.org/461309 for more details. Consider using audacious, bmpx, or xmms2 instead. [00:04] usr13: THANKS! [00:04] !es | kelvy_ [00:04] kelvy_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:04] usr13: here it is again, /dev/sda1 /media/datadisk ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro [00:04] kelvy_: if you must have xmms - compile it from source. [00:04] Same to you tormod ! [00:04] Dr_Willis: tell him to mv the file out of /root and into his ~/ if he has one [00:04] pnema, it works now? [00:04] usr13 | tormod how to check screen resolution? [00:04] ok Dr_Willis [00:05] bucky: he shouldent even be doing any of this as root.. :) My example just 'redownloaded' the file to a working directory. [00:05] tormod, thanks for the pointer. [00:05] Does anyone know if it's possible to turn a wireless card "on" even if it has no on/off switch? [00:05] Dr_Willis: he's got it in /root [00:05] pnema: That will not work. sda1 is ntfs not ext3 ...and why are you mounting it in /media/datadisk ? [00:05] i got an idea... you have been using linux for 3 days... dl a 40 MB theme and install it before you know how to log in [00:05] LogicalGhost: You most likely don't have the Wireless driver for it. Wireless was always a PITA to get working. [00:05] PATPAT: you do NOT need to be doing any of this 'as root' you should not be messing with the '/root' directory at all. [00:06] pnema, xdpyinfo [00:06] Hey bucky thanks it worked [00:06] hahaha [00:06] Where should I go to investigate I/O performance issues on Jaunty? If I run a job creating an ISO from a lot of files, system performance hits rock bottom even though CPU is only about 10% or less. Seriously, performance is worse than windows in the same scenario. [00:06] LogicalGhost: how do you know it is "off"? [00:06] it aint over yet [00:06] dmesg [00:06] tormod: states - xdpyinfo: unable to open display "". [00:07] pnema: Did you create the mount point /media/datadisk ? [00:07] pnema, run it _inside_ X [00:07] what is the Super button? [00:07] tormod, sorry for NEWBEE questions, but apprecrate your help [00:07] DarkMage26: When I type sudo lshw -C network I get the word "DISABLED" in the output [00:07] BornRebel: Windows Flag key. [00:07] BornRebel: the 'windows key' is known as the 'super' key also [00:07] ok ty [00:07] Jimmio: How can I figure out what driver I need? [00:07] <[A]KangB> what is the Super button? <- the key this the Window$s logo [00:07] <[A]KangB> late [00:08] <[A]KangB> xD [00:08] pnema, np this is a newbie channel de facto, however there is an official newbie channel [00:08] * Dr_Willis sticks a superman sticker over his windows logo. [00:08] PATPAT: how about cat README in that directory so you know what you're doing [00:08] anyone here have experience with MTP-tools at CLI? [00:08] LogicalGhost: By the name of the card. If you don't know it, PM me, I'll help you so you can actually read what I say o.o [00:08] ionly see 2 ready me [00:08] bucky: the archive came with no readme. :) [00:08] and its about some fonts [00:09] if it says Mac in it anywhere... don't touch it [00:09] bucky What is PATPAT trying to do? [00:09] install a them [00:10] PATPAT: What are you trying to install? [00:10] PATPAT: its not just a 'theme' its a combination of theme/ and other settings. [00:10] usr13: install some 40 MB theme with no docs in his 3rd day on linux [00:10] trying to install mac4lin [00:10] PATPAT: the comments at http://drop.io/dr_willis show exactly how i isntalled that mac4lin thing via the command line. [00:10] tormod: I enabled the ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA, but it didn't seem to affect anything. firefox-3.5 doesn't seem to require any packages from there, and nothing else was installed. Still no 3.5 on my system. Do you know what I should do next? [00:10] PATPAT: Are you sure this is something you need? If so, try to find it in the repos first. [00:10] ok let me try that [00:10] PATPAT: you run the commands from a terminal as a user, not root. [00:11] PATPAT: i mentioned this about 10 min ago. :P [00:11] dr wlliss what is the differents? [00:11] usr13: it's so cutting edge there is no documentation for it [00:11] PATPAT: clarify your question? [00:11] bucky: We should advise him not to use it. [00:11] <[A]KangB> hi guys! i have to install serveral programs (whit dependences) on 4 computers whitout internet... I need to install all programs installed in this computer. I have read about APTonCD, butit reads APT cache that I have cleaned it. Suggestions? Sorry for my bad English ^^ [00:11] exactly [00:11] <[A]KangB> with* [00:12] usr13: we have told him to not use it. :) i did test it.. the installer and uninstaller scripts do work. [00:12] ericdb, I doubt any "security" ppa is the right one, but I haven't read the docs myself [00:12] I mean what is the difference between the user and the root? [00:12] Dr_Willis: Ok, well press on... :) [00:12] PATPAT: apart from the install location, you mean? [00:12] [A]KangB: you need an entry for your cd rom in sources.list... prolly ad it with synaptic [00:12] tormod: I was just following that page you gave me, planet.ubuntu.com. It seemed to indicate that I should add that PPA, but I don't know. [00:12] PATPAT: root - the administrator.. you DONT need to be doing this stuff as the root user. You should not even be logged in as root in any way. [00:13] usr13: thanks usr13 it worked [00:13] evon: Very good.... [00:13] <[A]KangB> bucky, I know how to add a CD on source.list... I don't know how to do a CD with the packages [00:13] PATPAT: login as a normal user, open up a gnome-terminal, follow the commands i used... note the 'wget' command is one LOOOOOOOOOOOONG line.. not 2 lines, like it looks like in the pasteing i gave. [00:13] No i mean is this for som e security puposes? that [00:13] [A]KangB: there are sites like this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/howto-download-packages-and-dependencies-for-offline-installation/ [00:14] yea i see that i will follow it [00:14] PATPAT: root is the super-duper-can-do-anything user. [00:14] <[A]KangB> linduxed, thanks.. reading [00:14] I have a shutdown issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/med9c2a7 [00:14] oh alright so you are more of an administrator [00:14] [A]KangB: there is http://www.debianadmin.com/recursively-lists-package-dependencies-using-apt-rdepends.html too [00:14] with no restriction [00:14] this last one looks better [00:14] PATPAT: i said root was the 'adminiatorator' just earlier.. [00:15] root is easier to spell. :) [00:15] PATPAT: in windows you are sort of the root user all the time (windows version of it anyway) and that is a big reason that windows has problems with viruses / spyware / malware. [00:15] bill gates is an administrator [00:15] ericdb, I looked at http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/160-FAQ-Where-can-I-get-firefox-3.5-for-Ubuntu.html and you're right about the ppa. did you install firefox-3.5 ? [00:15] 'root is the 'ROOT' user.. the core/first user, from which all other users spawn. :) [00:15] tormod: I did. But it was before I enabled that PPA. I'm removing it and trying to reinstall now. [00:15] <[A]KangB> linduxed, i'm form Spain. There's nothing on Spanish and I don't know who to browse this on Google in English ^^ thanks again [00:16] Now is the time to start suggesting 'required reading' for linux fundamentals. [00:16] [A]KangB: ahh - well good luck! [00:16] <[A]KangB> ^^ [00:16] alright [00:16] [A]KangB, ubuntu-es ? [00:16] i followed your command [00:17] commands.... :) [00:17] <[A]KangB> toresbe, nothing there [00:17] Note: Xfce users will need to [00:17] manually enable the UI [00:17] [00:17] i got this [00:17] PATPAT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:17] PATPAT: read/follow what the installer says..... [00:17] <[A]KangB> toresbe, about i am looking for [00:17] i am [00:17] PATPAT: are you still logged in as root [00:17] Installing Mac4Lin UI... [00:17] tar: /root/.themes: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory [00:17] tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now [00:17] tar: /root/.themes: Cannot chdir: No such file or dire [00:17] PATPAT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:18] how do i enable the UI [00:18] and no im not [00:18] . [00:18] PATPAT: you are still doing things as root . we told you to NOT do stuff as root. [00:18] Hi! [00:18] i got out of the root [00:18] what do you mean [00:18] PATPAT: i suggest logging out.. and logging back in as the normal user.. [00:18] PATPAT: don't flood /topic and use the paste bin [00:18] You are not out of the root.. as your paste suggests. [00:18] PATPAT > tar: /root/.themes: <------------------ says root right there. [00:19] Hmm. [00:19] oh alright [00:19] DarkMage26: I don't know but you might run a memtest [00:19] ill log out after this is finish [00:19] I enabled desktop cube in the CompizConfig settings manaer but i dont see the hotkey to activate it so i can see the cube [00:19] how do i enable the UI [00:19] usr13: the mem is fine. [00:19] PATPAT: No.. you dont understand.. you MUST run this stuff as your user.. NOT as root.. thats the core of the issue. [00:20] I´m new to IRC..., It´s this chat the right place to ask about Ubuntu installations options???? [00:20] PATPAT: you have a mixture of root and your user stuff hanging about it seems. [00:20] DarkMage26: I don't know then... Sorry... [00:20] usr13: The numbers are different every time it shuts down also [00:20] oh ok [00:21] Hmm... theres 3 peopel at my drop.io site looking at things.. heh === Joschi_ is now known as Joschi [00:22] I'm running Jaunty with the newest nvidia driver. For developing OpenGL applications, I also installed the nvidia-glx-180-dev package. Works like a charm if I use OpenGL 1.1. But the OpenGL version supported by the driver is 3.0. The header files installed through nvidia-glx-180-dev are only version 1.1. What's the catch? Are the correct OpenGL header files in the repository somewhere? [00:22] hola [00:22] Hi all , if i install the standard ubuntu can i install KDE after the fact? [00:23] Jonathancw, yes. [00:23] Jonathancw: yes [00:23] Jonathancw: Yes, but why not cut to the chase and install Kubuntu? [00:23] Is it difficult? [00:23] I've already downloaded the Gnome version heh [00:23] Jonathancw: Not difficulty at all. You must be new to linux. :) [00:23] Jonathancw, it's not difficult, no. [00:24] !purekde | Jonathancw [00:24] Jonathancw: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [00:24] I am new to linux :) [00:25] Jonathancw: Welcome to the bright side! :) [00:25] mixxing up kde and gnome - can get the menus a bit cluttered. [00:25] brb [00:25] Jonathancw: Welcome aboard! :) [00:25] You might want to just try out gnome for a few weeks. [00:25] Does ubuntu work well with the new pentium processors with Raid hard drives? [00:25] The processors have raid hard drives? [00:25] I've used FBSD in the past , I prefer KDE personally. [00:25] Given the following configuration: Dual-boot (WinXp - Ubuntu 9.04). Wich is the best way to erase the WinXp partition, boot directly to Ubuntu and use the free space with Ubuntu??? [00:25] hmm.. smarty. [00:25] Jonathancw: you do realize kubuntu is 'KDE4' ? [00:25] They make new pentiums? [00:25] Jonathancw, installing software on Ubuntu is very much different from installing software on Windows in most cases. However, once you get used to everything being available, you won't want to miss it. ;) [00:26] I'm running Jaunty with the newest nvidia driver. For developing OpenGL applications, I also installed the nvidia-glx-180-dev package. Works like a charm if I use OpenGL 1.1. But the OpenGL version supported by the driver is 3.0. The header files installed through nvidia-glx-180-dev are only version 1.1. What's the catch? Are the correct OpenGL header files in the repository somewhere? [00:26] Jonathancw: What version of KDE did you use? 3.x or 4.x ? [00:26] hehe 2.x [00:26] Does anyone know how I can completely replace firefox 3 with firefox 3.5? [00:26] hey all. i installed ubuntu on a computer with vista, resizing vista's partition. somehow it screwed up and cant load anymore. it's in grub menu but it won't load. is this problem often? How can i solve this please? [00:26] Jonathancw: i would suggest trying tnome then. [00:26] ubuntu boots with no problem [00:26] !ff35 | dekushrub [00:26] dekushrub: Firefox 3.5 Final is currently being built and tested for Jaunty. If you *need* to install it, the firefox-3.5 *beta* package from the repositories will be updated when testing is complete. See also http://is.gd/1jkNY [00:27] como entro a ubuntu es en xchat [00:27] Dr_Willis not true, the official release of FF3.5 just came out yesterday [00:27] You know I had an odd thing happen to me the other day. [00:27] I had Ubuntu installed Via windows.. [00:27] Jonathancw: Beware, 4.x is WAY different. 3.5 is what I use and I like it. Some like 4.2 or whatever the latest KDE is and it's widget based. It's pretty fancy, but too much for me. And again, it is WAY different. [00:27] dekushrub: tell the bot . not me. [00:27] como entro a ubuntu es en xchat [00:27] como entro a ubuntu es en xchat [00:27] como entro a ubuntu es en xchat [00:27] kelvy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [00:28] When I tried to go into Ubuntu it gave me: Buffer I/o error on device SR1 [00:28] !es | kelvy [00:28] kelvy: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [00:28] Jonathancw: You can install KDE3.5 but it's a little more complicated because it is not the default version. [00:28] dekushrub: and from what i read of the bot saying.. it will appear int he repos when its ready [00:28] kelvy [00:28] hey [00:28] can u please send me the link again [00:28] dr willis [00:29] Anyone else seen that issue? [00:29] dr willis [00:29] can anyone help me please? :S i installed ubuntu resizing vista's partition and somehow screwed vista's boot. it attempts to boot but doesn't succeed. how can i fix that please? [00:29] when upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10 will I keep my old settings, like in xorg.conf? [00:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com [00:30] DR WILLIS [00:30] please send me the link [00:30] <[A]KangB> linxeh, not usefull :( [00:31] patrickeee: try 'dr_willis' :) [00:31] Jonathancw: You might be interested in: http://jaunty-kde3.tokra.lv/ [00:31] patrickeee: link for what? the http://drop.io/dr_willis ? [00:31] Dr_Willis: can u send me the ink [00:31] yes that thanks [00:31] * Dr_Willis thinks its rather easy to rember. :) [00:31] [A]KangB: you want to download a bunch of debs onto a cd to install onto other machines right ? [00:31] !tab | patrickeee [00:31] patrickeee: You can use for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [00:32] theres also a chat feature on that web page patrickeee [00:32] <[A]KangB> linxeh, yeah... but it only have URL to download it [00:32] [A]KangB: what is it you want to install? [00:32] yea i dont like the roots [00:32] robots [00:33] <[A]KangB> mencoder, mplayer, playonlinux, eclipse, ........... === Wharblgarbl is now known as WHARRGARBL [00:33] I bet everyone is grabbing my conky configs i got at http://drop.io/dr_willis [00:34] Dr_Willis: Question [00:34] patrickeee: Hmm? [00:34] I'm just now aware of the difference between users and root [00:34] Dr_Willis: what's the url for your flickr site === hadi_ is now known as Black_Phantom [00:34] bucky: never used flicker.. just drop.ip [00:34] bucky: no twitter wither. :) [00:34] so do we have two profiles [00:35] patrickeee: you have different users.. you could have 1000+ users if you wanted [00:35] yes i know [00:35] but the users and the root [00:35] who installed HP 1020 Printer under Ubuntu? [00:35] patrickeee: all users have their own /home/USERNAME directory for their own stuff... no idea what yoy mean by 'profiles' [00:35] i have the same user and root name [00:35] whats faster xubuntu or kubuntu? [00:35] patrickeee: the root user has all the 'rights' to do amdin tasks [00:35] Barridus: xubuntu uses less resources. [00:36] yes [00:36] Barridus: xubuntu has less features also [00:36] i dont understand the only diffferent is i have to type sudo su [00:36] well ubuntu is just full of alot of useless crap so i was wondering [00:36] but i have practically the same account with different user profile settings [00:36] Dr_Willis, huh? why are you triggering my highlights for no reason [00:36] patrickeee: it has to do with linux security which you can google ad infinitum [00:37] !sudo [00:37] sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE) [00:37] i c [00:37] brainthunk: you can remove what you don't need. Like gnome. [00:37] Barridus: bad tab completion. :) [00:37] :) [00:37] patrickeee: Are you telling us that you set your user account name as "root" [00:37] no [00:37] I got to find that irssi script that reorders the tab completion via "ESP" [00:37] patrickeee: Ok, good. [00:37] I'm on backtrack 4 [00:38] [A]KangB: I'm confused - those things can be downloaded with apt, then you could just copy the debs from the cache? [00:38] * Dr_Willis has no idea what 'backtrack4' even is [00:38] patrickeee: Backtrack4 isn't supported here? [00:38] <[A]KangB> linxeh, cache has been cleaned by aptitude :D [00:38] patrickeee: if you want to use 'ubuntu' then use ubuntu. not some variant of it [00:38] [A]KangB: so uninstall them, or force a reinstall ? [00:38] Dr_Willis: Linux for l33t haxx0rs.. [00:38] lcabrini: im to leet to be leet. [00:39] I'm using it for learning purposes [00:39] !training | patrickeee [00:39] patrickeee: documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [00:39] patrickeee: time to do some learning then i guess. [00:39] <[A]KangB> linxeh, it will download the program.. but no the dependence [00:39] patrickeee: and stop messing with eye candy :P [00:39] patrickeee: You want to ask people in #remote-exploit [00:39] Linux is too noobified now though, BSD is for the leets ;) [00:39] nogagplz: to try 'tiny core linux' [00:39] Well since Mac4lin is Ubuntu feature i figure i come here for the basics [00:40] patrickeee: mac4lin is for 'linux/gnome' users.. not ubuntu specific at all. [00:40] simple question, my sound doesn't seem to work in User mode is there somthing I'm missing? [00:40] Mac4Lin is NOT a ubuntu feature [00:40] yea well I'm on ubuntu so [00:40] [A]KangB: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1100816 [00:40] if it was it would be in the repos [00:40] patrickeee: You just said you were not using ubuntu. [00:40] I meant as general bucky [00:40] Dr_Willis, peeked at it before, content with crux and hvlinux [00:41] [A]KangB: synaptic will generate a list of files for you to download [00:41] nogagplz: Linux is like BSD on steroids [00:41] Backtrack 4 is built on Ubuntu [00:41] is there a way to change the background of just one workspace? [00:41] patrickeee: so is a lot of things.. but its NOT ubuntu. [00:41] patrickeee: apt-get install mac4lin [00:41] just got extra security feature [00:41] bucky i got it [00:41] Any good personal wiki apps on Ubuntu?? [00:41] <[A]KangB> linxeh, ok.. investigating...... [00:41] patrickeee: perhaos its features are what is screwing with the sound then. we have no idea about it in here. [00:42] bucky: thats not in the repos.. for which we are truely thankfull... [00:42] lwells: pmwiki [00:42] [A]KangB: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-309151.html maybe too [00:42] thanks [00:42] Dr_Willis: and therefore not a ubuntu feature [00:42] [A]KangB: look at the post by yota [00:42] is firefox 3.5 in the repos? [00:42] (the 8:28 one) [00:42] !ff35 | catharcyst [00:42] catharcyst: Firefox 3.5 Final is currently being built and tested for Jaunty. If you *need* to install it, the firefox-3.5 *beta* package from the repositories will be updated when testing is complete. See also http://is.gd/1jkNY [00:42] <[A]KangB> linxeh, ok... reading [00:42] But PATPAT could package it for the next release [00:43] siema [00:43] thanks ubottu [00:43] i installed it using the tar for now [00:43] patrickeee: go make a mac4lin deb and don't come back until you're done [00:43] !thanks | catharcyst [00:43] catharcyst: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [00:44] ya [00:44] the mac4 isnt going to work on here i guess [00:44] bucky: it does too many things to ever be a deb.. :) im [00:44] patrickeee: it works fine here for me.. i just followed those commands i gave. [00:44] I get a bunch of weird errors I really don't want to mess with it anymore [00:44] patrickeee: login as a user.. run the commands.. it worked. [00:44] Dr_willis it installed fine but just errors [00:44] how would I install fluxbox in ubuntu over gnome?????? [00:44] I'm in user right now [00:44] patrickeee: reinstall and install it from your user home dir as user like you're supposed to [00:45] [A]KangB: another option is apt-zip [00:45] [A]KangB: not tried it though :p [00:45] I am in users [00:45] terdman: what do you mean with 'over gnome'. [00:45] patrickeee: to ask in Backtrack 4 perhaps... i guess... of course runningstuff as root.. may of broken things... [00:45] thats why my name changed [00:45] it could have but its ok [00:45] patrickeee: try making a 'new' user.. see if the commands work for them. [00:45] umm.. can I switch between the too [00:45] <[A]KangB> linxeh, apt-zip!? whta's that!? [00:45] terdman: yes. 'sudo aptitude install fluxbox' [00:46] Your command is fine [00:46] terdman: you install other window mangers.. an the gdm login screen has a menu item to select the ones you use for that login session [00:46] I think it's just the back track [00:46] What does the "Rescue a broken system" boot option on the ubuntu 9.04 alternate install disc do? Will I be able to access the existing filesystem on the computer after using it? I'm working on an older PC for a friend, and I'd like to get Ubuntu running on it. It seems there is a graphics problem on this machine because the standard Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop cds crash when I try to boot from them, even though the machine has 51 [00:46] theres alot of things I can't really do [00:46] patrickeee: i would have to suggest getting a normal ubuntu cd. and installing normal ubuntu then. [00:46] Yes, after I'm done with what I'm here for [00:47] patrickeee: and what are you here for then? [00:47] twig11: "the machine is 51"? [00:47] network security [00:47] <[A]KangB> linxeh, I have found the way to do so that i was looking for [00:47] usr13: I'm not sure what you're asking. I did say it has 512 Mb RAM. [00:47] Dr_Willis: patrickeee ? [00:48] <[A]KangB> linxeh, sudo dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz [00:48] What? [00:48] twig11: Oh.. well you cut the last few characters off. [00:48] patrickeee: What is your question about network security? [00:48] !clone [00:48] To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate [00:48] usr13: Oh, sorry, it showed up fine in my chat client. [00:48] Hey guys...we went strictly Ubuntu at home. We do not have any more Windows running in any of our computers. We are looking for a good brand-name printer that is compatible with Linux. [00:49] patrickeee: good luck.. I dont do 'network security' much.. I just dont run stuff i dont need. [00:49] is there a way to change the background of just one workspace? [00:49] <[A]KangB> linxeh, I do a synaptic script to download the packages... then I download it to a folder... ther I run that on this folder. Then copy all to a CD :D [00:49] Oh I just meant ill install ubuntu after I'm done with the back track features that I'm here for [00:49] ravigehlot: avoid 'canon' [00:49] Dr_Willis: I heard Brother is pretty good [00:49] ravigehlot: check cups.org also befor you buy. [00:49] usr13: 512 Mb RAM and 1GHz cpu. [00:49] ravigehlot: HP would be a good bet, and avoid brother (cups bugs) [00:49] patrickeee, backtrack is not supported here; try #remote-exploit [00:49] ravigehlot: not tried them.. it end to stick with HP. but some HP's have less then perfect linux support. [00:49] twig11: That should do fine, if the hardware is all operational. [00:50] ravigehlot: hp has a low end color laser i was looking at last year.. but the linux drivers were lacking then.. they may be better now. [00:50] Dr_Willis: Just our networks vulnerbility and what we can do to inprove it from intruders [00:50] Dr_Willis: I need Laser [00:50] patrickeee: dont run serveices you dont need.. [00:50] bazhang I know that [00:50] funkyHat: Brothers seems to be one of the brands with the most interest in Linux [00:50] ok i have fluxbox installed but how do i switch to that window manager now ??? [00:50] twig11: What video card does it have in it? [00:50] ravigehlot: yep - this was a color laser for $300 i think (low end model) I got a 14 yr old HP laserjet 6l thats still running. [00:50] terdman: gdm screen.. menu items.. [00:51] patrickeee, so please Ubuntu only questions here. not Ubuntu-based (ie BT4) [00:51] gdmscreen ? sorry [00:51] anyone know how to send files from mp3 player via mtp-tools? [00:51] terdman: yes.. at the GDM login screen.. theres menu items somewhere to select a session [00:51] I'm in school for computer networking I have to learn about these type of things like arp poisoning MiTm attacks , crossite scripting etc === catharcyst is now known as seeds [00:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters ravigehlot [00:51] patrickeee: sounds like you got lots of reading to do. [00:51] anyone know how to send files from mp3 player via mtp-tools? [00:52] bazhang I haven't asked any question about backtrack the only question I've asked here was how to install a Mac4lin [00:52] Dr_Willis: NewEgg has a wirless workgroup printer for $124 and it has drivers for Linux [00:52] ravigehlot: a friend of mine has trouble with his brother printer, that might be only that particular model though. it's an mfc-235c (I think) [00:52] patrickeee, and you were answered [00:52] usr13: right. Obviously there's a problem with the machine; that's why I'm using the alternate cd. If I use the "rescue a broken system" boot option, will I be able to get access to the existing filesystem? (Win XP Professional)\ [00:52] bazhang: checking.... [00:52] Yes Dr Willin but I can do two of the three [00:52] patrickeee: Linix is definately for you if you want to learn about networking and network secruity tools etc... [00:53] twig11: If it is readable, yes. [00:53] funkyHat: I see. I am not going for MFC models. I am sticking with just a printer without multifunction [00:53] How do I handle spaces in my mp3 file names when transferring via MTP-tools [00:53] for windows we have cain and abel for linux theres back track 4...so far I think BT4 is great [00:53] !ot > patrickeee [00:53] patrickeee, please see my private message [00:53] anyone? [00:53] bazhang: Nice. Thanks man. [00:54] usr13: I know it's readable, because XP still boots, but it's pretty unstable. I'm not sure how to find out what graphics card it has. [00:54] mdg, file\ name [00:54] ARMENIAN: are you using KDE or gnome? [00:54] bastidrazor: slash and a space? [00:54] mdg, yes [00:55] twig11: After booting linux from CD use command lspci [00:55] Can someone give me a hand. New ubuntu install, everytime I run a wine app, the screen flickers, the app eventually loads but crashes. [00:55] bastidrazor: can you give an actual example? === Gun_Smok1 is now known as Gun_Smoke_ [00:55] OK. The model I am looking to buy Brother HL-5730DW is supported but it has 1 glitch [00:55] twig11: or: lspci |grep -i vga [00:55] ARMENIAN: KDE or gnome desktop? [00:55] mdg: gnome === Gun_Smoke_ is now known as Gun_Smoke [00:55] mdg, Live Music.mpe = Live\ Music.mpe [00:56] bastidrazor: oh! okay. thanks! [00:56] usr13: I'm not sure how to boot linux to a command line using the alternate cd. Can you explain? [00:56] ARMENIAN: Not possible to change just one in gnome. KDE can do that though [00:56] mdg: ohh, crap, thanks anyway :) [00:56] mdg, same goes for directories. [00:57] usr13: I'm at the main menu with the options "Install ubuntu" "Check disc" " [00:57] bastidrazor: excellent! thanksomuch :) [00:57] dfs [00:57] usr13: Test memory, boot from hard disk, rescue etc. [00:57] mdg, also try tab-completion .. Live*hit tab [00:57] sup every one? [00:57] is Wubi just virtualization on the back end? or does it boot from an image on your hardware? (like Windows 7 boot to VHD) [00:57] usr13: sorry for that disjointed sentence [00:57] twig11: rescue [00:58] usr13: thanks. and I'm afraid I'm going to need some advice going through it. [00:58] usr13: language: English. I can do that. [00:59] any one hear know how to use the jack connection kit? [00:59] usr13: Maybe this gives you a clue: "No common CD-ROM drive was detected" [01:00] Load CDROM drivers from removable media? [01:00] And I don't have removable media from which to load any drivers. [01:01] any one hear know how to use the jack connection kit? [01:01] Having shut down issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6a36b976 [01:01] jeffs: Either google for jack on gentoo or ask in #jack [01:01] jeffs: Or maybe #alsa [01:01] thanks [01:01] twig11: What type of CDROM is it? [01:02] usr13: the drive or the disc? [01:02] how to I whisper someone, im new to ubuntu and irc [01:02] ? [01:02] jeffs, /msg nick msg [01:03] twig11 The drive. What type of CDROM drive is it? === Paraselene__ is now known as Paraselene_ [01:04] usr13: I don't know. It's internal, and I haven't opened it. shall I shut down and find out? [01:04] Or is there another way? [01:04] twig11: No, there is no other way. [01:04] twig11: What type of PC is it? === jack_ is now known as JPSman [01:05] how can i make it so when i type dict in teminal it will run curl dict://dict.org/d: with the search term filled in as a flag to dict, for example dict encyklopedia would bring the dict.org entry [01:05] good morning everyone [01:05] it's just crazy to see so many ppl here [01:06] what a great community [01:06] usr13: it looks like a generic box somebody built themselves. It's got a 1GHz AMD processor and 512 Mb RAM that's about all I know. [01:06] mojo_: well hi mojo [01:06] or is there another way of acessing a dictionary trough the terminal? [01:07] twig11: Open it and see what type of CDROM is inside. [01:07] I'm doing that. [01:07] !usb | twig11 [01:07] twig11: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [01:08] help [01:09] usr13 throws dannyboy997 a life line! [01:10] wWales, create an alias [01:10] Issue with shutting down system. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6a36b976 [01:10] dannyboy997: Ask your question(s). (I was only teasing.) [01:11] bastidrazor: i found a way to make aliases, thanks for the tip! [01:12] wWales, i had some links ready if needed. good luck and happy alias'ing [01:12] <[A]KangB> thnaks people... thanks linxeh [01:12] <[A]KangB> bye! [01:13] DarkMage26: Try: shutdown -r now [01:14] hello [01:14] wWales: It's just: ifconfig eth0:0 ; ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.5.5 etc.. [01:15] usr13: okay, I've got my drive out now. It's made by NEC Corporation and it has a model number. What do I need to get it working when I boot? [01:15] usr13: stuck on the other line that states "*Stopping GNOME Display Manager... [ OK ] [01:15] twig11: I dono. Get another CDROM drive [01:15] twig11: Or do USB [01:15] !usb | twig11 [01:15] twig11: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [01:16] usr13: thanks, will look into it. [01:16] DarkMage26, from my understanding shutdown doesn't turn off a computer... shutdown sends a request to the init(8) daemon to bring the system down into the appropriate run‐level .. [01:16] twig11: NP [01:17] anyone use packagekit [01:17] DarkMage26: What happens when you hit the power button. (That's how I shut mine down.) [01:18] Hi all!' [01:19] usr13: I can only shutdown once it freezes by holding down the power button. Nothing happens when I just press it and then release it. [01:19] DarkMage26: bastidrazor is correct, shutdown does not turn off the computer. [01:21] DarkMage26: I don't know, but sounds like acpi is broken. See: http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/ [01:22] DarkMage26: If you hit the power button when the system is running, it is supposed to shut down the OS and power off the PC, (if all is working as expected). [01:23] DarkMage26, under power management you can specify how your box will react to a power button press [01:24] hey - most of the songs on my girlfriends ipod are locked when I try to listen to them on banshee, does anyone know how I can unlock them, or how to listen to them? [01:24] how do i start a seperate X session on ubuntu 9.04.. since FOREVER on ANY distro ive been able to just say 'startx -- :1' and it worked.. now it doesnt [01:24] ShazbotMcNasty: if she bought them fro the itunes store.. they will only play on that ipod i think [01:25] that's no good [01:25] intangir: use 'sudo' befor that? ive not tried it in ages also. [01:25] i downloaded firefox 3.5 from the ppa, what is this shiretoko? :-/ [01:25] ive never had to use sudo before it before [01:25] and i dont think it would be a good idea [01:25] ShazbotMcNasty: I don't know, but I sure am happy with my Sansa Express. [01:26] anyone? [01:26] dsdeiz: perhaps the code name for the release. [01:26] dsdeiz: or the ppa maintainer. [01:26] usr13: I use the shut down command from the desktop to init the shut down. It starts to shut down by going black and it shows "Broadcast message from root@holly-desktop (unknown) at