[00:00] <tormod> pnema, yes
[00:00] <PATPAT> im stuck on the last part
[00:00] <evon> usr13: is this line ok? /dev/sda1       /media/datadisk ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro
[00:00] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:00] <tormod> Jimmio, are you on 9.04?
[00:00] <PATPAT> /root/Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0$       i cant install once im here
[00:00] <Jimmio> tormod: Yep
[00:00] <pnema> usr13: what is the command to restart X?  Thanks
[00:00] <tormod> pnema, log out and in again
[00:01] <pnema> thanks tormod
[00:01] <elli222> is there another channel where people might know about device_nomsi=xyz?
[00:01] <delaman> rhinoserious: looks like ubuntu nvidia driver doesnt like my onboard motherboard video card,,,, works find with an add on video card :(
[00:01] <bucky> PATPAT: if you type Dr_Willis he might see you in this traffic
[00:01] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:01] <lcabrini> LogicalGhost: 'sudo lshw -C network' would give you what you're looking for
[00:01] <LogicalGhost> I know wireless cards can have on/off switches because the Windows computer I'm working on right now has one, but it's a big switch on the front - is it possible to have an off switch inside the unit?
[00:01] <bucky> PATPAT: i.e.  Dr_Willis:  my question here
[00:02] <bucky> PATPAT: how old are you?
[00:02] <usr13> tormod: What exactly is pnema trying to do?
[00:02] <PATPAT> listen this is my 3 day using linux
[00:02] <PATPAT> give me a brake
[00:02] <evon> patpat: lol
[00:02] <ScottG> geirha: Hey thats. It was hard to figure out those codes at first but I think I have a pretty cool thing going. I'm gonna color code hostnames and usernames since I only really use 2-3
[00:02] <lcabrini> Jimmio: thousands of possible reasons. Be more specific.
[00:02] <tormod> usr13, low resolution only
[00:02] <P_Kable> Hi, I installed NFS server (nfs-kernel- and nfs-common) and since that no samba shares are viewable from windows clients, any idea ?
[00:02] <ericdb> I just installed firefox-3.5 from the mozilla repository, but "Firefox Web Browser" in my apps menu still opens 3.0.
[00:03] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:03] <usr13> bucky: he is 3 days old.  Give him a brake!
[00:03] <bucky> PATPAT:  sudo  ./Mac4Lin_Install_v1.0.sh
[00:03] <rski> !ff 35
[00:03] <rski> !firefox 35
[00:03] <usr13> tomsku: Oh, ok.
[00:03] <elli222> !epicfail
[00:03] <P_Kable> ff 3.5 ???
[00:03] <evon> usr13: did you see the line i posted for you to look at?
[00:03] <lcabrini> PATPAT: if that is the case, spend a little time to get to know your system before trying to turn it into a christmas tree.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  Huh? what files ehere? the mac4lin thing can install things 'system wide' as root.. the script asks if you want to do so,
[00:03] <ericdb> Come on ubottu, give up the info!
[00:03] <DarkMage26> I has a shut down problem, can anybody help? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/med9c2a7
[00:03] <P_Kable> ff 3.0 works just fine for me ;)
[00:03] <tormod> for firefox 3.5 see planet.ubuntu.com
[00:03] <usr13> evon: Sorry, must have missed it.
[00:03] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  you do NOT need to do 'sudo ./Mac4lininstaller.sh'
[00:04] <bucky> Dr_Willis: oh my bad
[00:04] <kelvy_> como instalo xmms en ubuntu  9.04
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> !xmms | kelvy_
[00:04] <pnema> usr13: THANKS!
[00:04] <usr13> !es | kelvy_
[00:04] <evon> usr13: here it is again, /dev/sda1       /media/datadisk ext3 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro
[00:04] <Dr_Willis> kelvy_:  if you must have xmms - compile it from source.
[00:04] <pnema> Same to you tormod !
[00:04] <bucky> Dr_Willis: tell him to mv the file out of /root and into his ~/ if he has one
[00:04] <tormod> pnema, it works now?
[00:04] <pnema> usr13 | tormod how to check screen resolution?
[00:04] <kelvy_> ok Dr_Willis
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  he shouldent even be doing any of this as root.. :)   My example just 'redownloaded' the file to  a working directory.
[00:05] <ericdb> tormod, thanks for the pointer.
[00:05] <LogicalGhost> Does anyone know if it's possible to turn a wireless card "on" even if it has no on/off switch?
[00:05] <bucky> Dr_Willis: he's got it in /root
[00:05] <usr13> pnema: That will not work.  sda1 is ntfs not ext3    ...and why are you mounting it in /media/datadisk  ?
[00:05] <bucky> i got an idea... you have been using linux for 3 days... dl a 40 MB theme and install it before you know how to log in
[00:05] <Jimmio> LogicalGhost: You most likely don't have the Wireless driver for it. Wireless was always a PITA to get working.
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you do NOT need to be doing any of this 'as root' you should not be messing with the '/root' directory at all.
[00:06] <tormod> pnema, xdpyinfo
[00:06] <PATPAT> Hey bucky thanks it worked
[00:06] <bucky> hahaha
[00:06] <CaneToad> Where should I go to investigate I/O performance issues on Jaunty?  If I run a job creating an ISO from a lot of files, system performance hits rock bottom even though CPU is only about 10% or less.  Seriously, performance is worse than windows in the same scenario.
[00:06] <DarkMage26> LogicalGhost: how do you know it is "off"?
[00:06] <bucky> it aint over yet
[00:06] <msbhvn> dmesg
[00:06] <pnema> tormod: states - xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
[00:07] <usr13> pnema: Did you create the mount point /media/datadisk ?
[00:07] <tormod> pnema, run it _inside_ X
[00:07] <BornRebel> what is the Super button?
[00:07] <pnema> tormod, sorry for NEWBEE questions, but apprecrate your help
[00:07] <LogicalGhost> DarkMage26: When I type sudo lshw -C network I get the word "DISABLED" in the output
[00:07] <Jimmio> BornRebel: Windows Flag key.
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> BornRebel:  the 'windows key' is known as the 'super' key also
[00:07] <BornRebel> ok ty
[00:07] <LogicalGhost> Jimmio: How can I figure out what driver I need?
 what is the Super button? <- the key this the Window$s logo
[00:07] <[A]KangB> late
[00:08] <[A]KangB> xD
[00:08] <tormod> pnema, np this is a newbie channel de facto, however there is an official newbie channel
[00:08]  * Dr_Willis sticks a superman sticker over his windows logo.
[00:08] <bucky> PATPAT: how about cat README in that directory so you know what you're doing
[00:08] <mdg> anyone here have experience with MTP-tools  at CLI?
[00:08] <Jimmio> LogicalGhost: By the name of the card. If you don't know it, PM me, I'll help you so you can actually read what I say o.o
[00:08] <PATPAT> ionly see 2 ready me
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  the archive came with no readme. :)
[00:08] <PATPAT> and its about some fonts
[00:09] <bucky> if it says Mac in it anywhere... don't touch it
[00:09] <usr13> bucky What is  PATPAT trying to do?
[00:09] <PATPAT> install a them
[00:10] <usr13> PATPAT: What are you trying to install?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  its not just a 'theme' its a combination of theme/ and other settings.
[00:10] <bucky> usr13: install some 40 MB theme with no docs in his 3rd day on linux
[00:10] <PATPAT> trying to install mac4lin
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  the comments at  http://drop.io/dr_willis show exactly how i isntalled that mac4lin thing via the command line.
[00:10] <ericdb> tormod: I enabled the ubuntu-mozilla-security PPA, but it didn't seem to affect anything.  firefox-3.5 doesn't seem to require any packages from there, and nothing else was installed.  Still no 3.5 on my system.  Do you know what I should do next?
[00:10] <usr13> PATPAT: Are you sure this is something you need?  If so, try to find it in the repos first.
[00:10] <PATPAT> ok let me try that
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you run the commands from a terminal as a user, not root.
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  i mentioned this about 10 min ago. :P
[00:11] <PATPAT> dr wlliss what is the differents?
[00:11] <bucky> usr13: it's so cutting edge there is no documentation for it
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  clarify your question?
[00:11] <usr13> bucky: We should advise him not to use it.
[00:11] <[A]KangB> hi guys! i have to install serveral programs (whit dependences) on 4 computers whitout internet... I need to install all programs installed in this computer. I have read about APTonCD, butit reads APT cache that I have cleaned it. Suggestions? Sorry for my bad English ^^
[00:11] <bucky> exactly
[00:11] <[A]KangB> with*
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> usr13:  we have told him to not use it. :) i did test it.. the installer and uninstaller scripts do work.
[00:12] <tormod> ericdb, I doubt any "security" ppa is the right one, but I haven't read the docs myself
[00:12] <PATPAT> I mean what is the difference between the user and the root?
[00:12] <usr13> Dr_Willis: Ok, well press on... :)
[00:12] <lcabrini> PATPAT: apart from the install location, you mean?
[00:12] <bucky> [A]KangB: you need an entry for your cd rom in sources.list... prolly ad it with synaptic
[00:12] <ericdb> tormod: I was just following that page you gave me, planet.ubuntu.com.  It seemed to indicate that I should add that PPA, but I don't know.
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  root - the administrator.. you DONT need to be doing this stuff as  the root user. You should not even be logged in as root in any way.
[00:13] <evon> usr13: thanks usr13 it worked
[00:13] <usr13> evon: Very good....
[00:13] <[A]KangB> bucky, I know how to add a CD on source.list... I don't know how to do a CD with the packages
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  login as a normal user, open up a gnome-terminal, follow the commands i used...  note the 'wget' command is one LOOOOOOOOOOOONG line.. not 2 lines, like it looks like in the pasteing i gave.
[00:13] <PATPAT> No i  mean is this for som e security puposes? that
[00:13] <linxeh> [A]KangB: there are sites like this http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2007/07/24/howto-download-packages-and-dependencies-for-offline-installation/
[00:14] <PATPAT> yea i see that i will follow it
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:   root is the super-duper-can-do-anything user.
[00:14] <[A]KangB> linduxed, thanks.. reading
[00:14] <DarkMage26> I have a shutdown issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/med9c2a7
[00:14] <PATPAT> oh alright so you are more of an administrator
[00:14] <linxeh> [A]KangB: there is http://www.debianadmin.com/recursively-lists-package-dependencies-using-apt-rdepends.html too
[00:14] <PATPAT> with no restriction
[00:14] <linxeh> this last one looks better
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:   i said root was the 'adminiatorator' just earlier..
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> root is easier to spell. :)
[00:15] <edbian> PATPAT: in windows you are sort of the root user all the time (windows version of it anyway) and that is a big reason that windows has problems with viruses / spyware / malware.
[00:15] <bucky> bill gates is an administrator
[00:15] <tormod> ericdb, I looked at http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/160-FAQ-Where-can-I-get-firefox-3.5-for-Ubuntu.html and you're right about the ppa. did you install firefox-3.5 ?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> 'root is the 'ROOT' user.. the core/first user, from which all other users spawn. :)
[00:15] <ericdb> tormod: I did.  But it was before I enabled that PPA.  I'm removing it and trying to reinstall now.
[00:15] <[A]KangB> linduxed, i'm form Spain. There's nothing on Spanish and I don't know who to browse this on Google in English ^^ thanks again
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> Now is the time to start suggesting 'required reading' for linux fundamentals.
[00:16] <linxeh> [A]KangB: ahh - well good luck!
[00:16] <[A]KangB> ^^
[00:16] <PATPAT> alright
[00:16] <tormod> [A]KangB, ubuntu-es ?
[00:16] <PATPAT> i followed your command
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> commands....  :)
[00:17] <[A]KangB> toresbe, nothing there
[00:17] <PATPAT> Note: Xfce users will need to
[00:17] <PATPAT>       manually enable the UI
[00:17] <PATPAT>  
[00:17] <PATPAT> i got this
[00:17] <FloodBot3> PATPAT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  read/follow what the installer says.....
[00:17] <[A]KangB> toresbe, about i am looking for
[00:17] <PATPAT> i am
[00:17] <bucky> PATPAT: are you still logged in as root
[00:17] <PATPAT> Installing Mac4Lin UI...
[00:17] <PATPAT> tar: /root/.themes: Cannot chdir: No such file or directory
[00:17] <PATPAT> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:17] <PATPAT> tar: /root/.themes: Cannot chdir: No such file or dire
[00:17] <FloodBot3> PATPAT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:18] <PATPAT> how do i enable the UI
[00:18] <PATPAT> and no im not
[00:18] <iujees> .
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you are still doing things as root . we told you to NOT do stuff as root.
[00:18] <dvanzo> Hi!
[00:18] <PATPAT> i got out of the root
[00:18] <PATPAT> what do you mean
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  i suggest logging out.. and logging back in as  the normal user..
[00:18] <bucky> PATPAT: don't flood  /topic and use the paste bin
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> You are not out of the root.. as your paste suggests.
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT > tar: /root/.themes:   <------------------ says root right there.
[00:19] <mobi-sheep> Hmm.
[00:19] <PATPAT> oh alright
[00:19] <usr13> DarkMage26: I don't know but you might run a memtest
[00:19] <PATPAT> ill log out after this is finish
[00:19] <BornRebel> I enabled desktop cube in the CompizConfig settings manaer but i dont see the hotkey to activate it so i can see the cube
[00:19] <PATPAT> how do i enable the UI
[00:19] <DarkMage26> usr13: the mem is fine.
[00:19] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  No.. you dont understand.. you MUST run this stuff as your user.. NOT as root.. thats the core of the issue.
[00:20] <dvanzo> I´m new to IRC..., It´s this chat the right place to ask about Ubuntu installations options????
[00:20] <Dr_Willis> PATPAT:  you have a mixture of root and your user stuff hanging about it seems.
[00:20] <usr13> DarkMage26: I don't know then...  Sorry...
[00:20] <DarkMage26> usr13: The numbers are different every time it shuts down also
[00:20] <PATPAT> oh ok
[00:21] <Dr_Willis> Hmm... theres 3 peopel at my drop.io site looking at things.. heh
[00:22] <dra> I'm running Jaunty with the newest nvidia driver. For developing OpenGL applications, I also installed the nvidia-glx-180-dev package. Works like a charm if I use OpenGL 1.1. But the OpenGL version supported by the driver is 3.0. The header files installed through nvidia-glx-180-dev are only version 1.1. What's the catch? Are the correct OpenGL header files in the repository somewhere?
[00:22] <eni4c> hola
[00:22] <Jonathancw> Hi all , if i install the standard ubuntu can i install KDE after the fact?
[00:23] <dra> Jonathancw, yes.
[00:23] <lcabrini> Jonathancw: yes
[00:23] <usr13> Jonathancw: Yes, but why not cut to the chase and install Kubuntu?
[00:23] <Jonathancw> Is it difficult?
[00:23] <Jonathancw> I've already downloaded the Gnome version heh
[00:23] <leaf-sheep> Jonathancw: Not difficulty at all.  You must be new to linux. :)
[00:23] <dra> Jonathancw, it's not difficult, no.
[00:24] <bastidrazor> !purekde | Jonathancw
[00:24] <Jonathancw> I am new to linux :)
[00:25] <leaf-sheep> Jonathancw: Welcome to the bright side! :)
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> mixxing up kde and gnome - can get the menus a bit cluttered.
[00:25] <PATPAT> brb
[00:25] <usr13> Jonathancw: Welcome aboard!  :)
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> You might want to just try out gnome for a few weeks.
[00:25] <Jonathancw> Does ubuntu work well with the new pentium processors with Raid hard drives?
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> The processors have raid hard drives?
[00:25] <Jonathancw> I've used FBSD in the past , I prefer KDE personally.
[00:25] <dvanzo> Given the following configuration: Dual-boot (WinXp - Ubuntu 9.04). Wich is the best way to erase the WinXp partition, boot  directly to Ubuntu and use the free space with Ubuntu???
[00:25] <Jonathancw> hmm.. smarty.
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> Jonathancw:  you do realize kubuntu is 'KDE4' ?
[00:25] <Adremelech|Lapto> They make new pentiums?
[00:25] <dra> Jonathancw, installing software on Ubuntu is very much different from installing software on Windows in most cases. However, once you get used to everything being available, you won't want to miss it. ;)
[00:26] <dra> I'm running Jaunty with the newest nvidia driver. For developing OpenGL applications, I also installed the nvidia-glx-180-dev package. Works like a charm if I use OpenGL 1.1. But the OpenGL version supported by the driver is 3.0. The header files installed through nvidia-glx-180-dev are only version 1.1. What's the catch? Are the correct OpenGL header files in the repository somewhere?
[00:26] <usr13> Jonathancw: What version of KDE did you use? 3.x  or 4.x ?
[00:26] <Jonathancw> hehe 2.x
[00:26] <dekushrub> Does anyone know how I can completely replace firefox 3 with firefox 3.5?
[00:26] <Time`s_Witness> hey all. i installed ubuntu on a computer with vista, resizing vista's partition. somehow it screwed up and cant load anymore. it's in grub menu but it won't load. is this problem often? How can i solve this please?
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> Jonathancw:  i would suggest  trying tnome then.
[00:26] <Time`s_Witness> ubuntu boots with no problem
[00:26] <Dr_Willis> !ff35 | dekushrub
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <dekushrub> Dr_Willis not true, the official release of FF3.5 just came out yesterday
[00:27] <Jonathancw> You know I had an odd thing happen to me the other day.
[00:27] <Jonathancw> I had Ubuntu installed Via windows..
[00:27] <usr13> Jonathancw: Beware, 4.x is WAY different.  3.5 is what I use and I like it.  Some like 4.2 or whatever the latest KDE is and it's widget based.  It's pretty fancy, but too much for me.  And again, it is WAY different.
[00:27] <Dr_Willis> dekushrub:  tell the bot . not me.
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <kelvy> como entro a ubuntu es en xchat
[00:27] <FloodBot3> kelvy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:28] <Jonathancw> When I tried to go into Ubuntu it gave me:  Buffer I/o error on device SR1
[00:28] <bastidrazor> !es | kelvy
[00:28] <usr13> Jonathancw: You can install KDE3.5 but it's a little more complicated because it is not the default version.
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> dekushrub:  and from what i read of the bot saying.. it will appear int he repos when its ready
[00:28] <eni4c> kelvy
[00:28] <patrickeee> hey
[00:28] <patrickeee> can u please send me the link again
[00:28] <patrickeee> dr willis
[00:29] <Jonathancw> Anyone else seen that issue?
[00:29] <patrickeee> dr willis
[00:29] <Time`s_Witness> can anyone help me please? :S i installed ubuntu resizing vista's partition and somehow screwed vista's boot. it attempts to boot but doesn't succeed. how can i fix that please?
[00:29] <halberd> when upgrading to 9.04 from 8.10 will I keep my old settings, like in xorg.conf?
[00:29] <kelvy> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[00:30] <patrickeee> DR WILLIS
[00:30] <patrickeee> please send me the link
[00:30] <[A]KangB> linxeh, not usefull :(
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  try 'dr_willis' :)
[00:31] <usr13> Jonathancw: You might be interested in:  http://jaunty-kde3.tokra.lv/
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  link for what?  the http://drop.io/dr_willis ?
[00:31] <patrickeee> Dr_Willis: can u send me the ink
[00:31] <patrickeee> yes that thanks
[00:31]  * Dr_Willis thinks its rather easy to rember. :)
[00:31] <linxeh> [A]KangB: you want to download a bunch of debs onto a cd to install onto other machines right ?
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> !tab | patrickeee
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> theres also a chat feature on that web page patrickeee
[00:32] <[A]KangB> linxeh, yeah... but it only have URL to download it
[00:32] <linxeh> [A]KangB: what is it you want to install?
[00:32] <patrickeee> yea i dont like the roots
[00:32] <patrickeee> robots
[00:33] <[A]KangB> mencoder, mplayer, playonlinux, eclipse, ...........
[00:33] <Dr_Willis> I bet everyone is grabbing my conky configs i got at http://drop.io/dr_willis
[00:34] <patrickeee> Dr_Willis: Question
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  Hmm?
[00:34] <patrickeee> I'm just now aware of the difference between users and root
[00:34] <bucky> Dr_Willis: what's the url for your flickr site
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  never used flicker.. just drop.ip
[00:34] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  no twitter wither. :)
[00:34] <patrickeee> so do we have two profiles
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:   you have different users.. you could have 1000+ users  if you wanted
[00:35] <patrickeee> yes i know
[00:35] <patrickeee> but the users and the root
[00:35] <lbs> who installed HP 1020 Printer under Ubuntu?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  all users have their own /home/USERNAME directory for their own stuff...   no idea what yoy mean by 'profiles'
[00:35] <patrickeee> i have the same user and root name
[00:35] <brainthunk> whats faster xubuntu or kubuntu?
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  the root user has all the 'rights' to do amdin tasks
[00:35] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  xubuntu uses less resources.
[00:36] <patrickeee> yes
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  xubuntu has less features also
[00:36] <patrickeee> i dont understand the only diffferent is i have to type sudo su
[00:36] <brainthunk> well ubuntu is just full of alot of useless crap so i was  wondering
[00:36] <patrickeee> but i have practically the same account with different user profile settings
[00:36] <Barridus> Dr_Willis, huh?  why are you triggering my highlights for no reason
[00:36] <bucky> patrickeee: it has to do with linux security which you can google ad infinitum
[00:37] <Pici> !sudo
[00:37] <patrickeee> i c
[00:37] <lcabrini> brainthunk: you can remove what you don't need. Like gnome.
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  bad tab completion. :)
[00:37] <Barridus> :)
[00:37] <usr13> patrickeee: Are you telling us that you set your user account name as "root"
[00:37] <patrickeee> no
[00:37] <Dr_Willis> I got to find that irssi script that reorders the tab completion via "ESP"
[00:37] <usr13> patrickeee: Ok, good.
[00:37] <patrickeee> I'm on backtrack 4
[00:38] <linxeh> [A]KangB: I'm confused - those things can be downloaded with apt, then you could just copy the debs from the cache?
[00:38]  * Dr_Willis has no idea what 'backtrack4' even is
[00:38] <leaf-sheep> patrickeee: Backtrack4 isn't supported here?
[00:38] <[A]KangB> linxeh, cache has been cleaned by aptitude :D
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  if you want to use 'ubuntu' then use ubuntu. not some variant of it
[00:38] <linxeh> [A]KangB: so uninstall them, or force a reinstall ?
[00:38] <lcabrini> Dr_Willis: Linux for l33t haxx0rs..
[00:38] <Dr_Willis> lcabrini:  im to leet to be leet.
[00:39] <patrickeee> I'm using it for learning purposes
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> !training | patrickeee
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  time to do some learning then i guess.
[00:39] <[A]KangB> linxeh, it will download the program.. but no the dependence
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  and stop messing with eye candy :P
[00:39] <mobi-sheep> patrickeee: You want to ask people in #remote-exploit
[00:39] <nogagplz> Linux is too noobified now though, BSD is for the leets ;)
[00:39] <Dr_Willis> nogagplz:  to try 'tiny core linux'
[00:39] <patrickeee> Well since Mac4lin is Ubuntu feature i figure i come here for the basics
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  mac4lin is for 'linux/gnome' users..  not ubuntu specific at all.
[00:40] <patrickeee> simple question, my sound doesn't seem to work in User mode is there somthing I'm missing?
[00:40] <bucky> Mac4Lin is NOT a ubuntu feature
[00:40] <patrickeee> yea well I'm on ubuntu so
[00:40] <linxeh> [A]KangB: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1100816
[00:40] <bucky> if it was it would be in the repos
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  You just said you were not using ubuntu.
[00:40] <patrickeee> I meant as general bucky
[00:40] <nogagplz> Dr_Willis, peeked at it before, content with crux and hvlinux
[00:41] <linxeh> [A]KangB: synaptic will generate a list of files for you to download
[00:41] <usr13> nogagplz: Linux is like BSD on steroids
[00:41] <patrickeee> Backtrack 4 is built on Ubuntu
[00:41] <ARMENIAN> is there a way to change the background of just one workspace?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  so is a lot of things.. but its NOT ubuntu.
[00:41] <bucky> patrickeee: apt-get install mac4lin
[00:41] <patrickeee> just got extra security feature
[00:41] <patrickeee> bucky i got it
[00:41] <lwells> Any good personal wiki apps on Ubuntu??
[00:41] <[A]KangB> linxeh, ok.. investigating......
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  perhaos its features are what  is screwing with the sound then. we have no idea about it in here.
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  thats not in the repos..  for which we are truely thankfull...
[00:42] <usr13> lwells: pmwiki
[00:42] <linxeh> [A]KangB: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-309151.html maybe too
[00:42] <lwells> thanks
[00:42] <bucky> Dr_Willis: and therefore not a ubuntu feature
[00:42] <linxeh> [A]KangB: look at the post by yota
[00:42] <catharcyst> is firefox 3.5 in the repos?
[00:42] <linxeh> (the 8:28 one)
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> !ff35 | catharcyst
[00:42] <[A]KangB> linxeh, ok... reading
[00:42] <bucky> But PATPAT could package it for the next release
[00:43] <Grzesio> siema
[00:43] <catharcyst> thanks ubottu
[00:43] <catharcyst> i installed it using the tar for now
[00:43] <bucky> patrickeee: go make a mac4lin deb and don't come back until you're done
[00:43] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  catharcyst
[00:44] <catharcyst> ya
[00:44] <patrickeee> the mac4 isnt going to work on here i guess
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> bucky:  it does too many things to ever be a deb.. :) im
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  it works fine here for me.. i just followed those commands i gave.
[00:44] <patrickeee> I get a bunch of weird errors I really don't want to mess with it anymore
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:   login as a user.. run the commands.. it worked.
[00:44] <patrickeee> Dr_willis it installed fine but just errors
[00:44] <terdman> how would I install fluxbox in ubuntu over gnome??????
[00:44] <patrickeee> I'm in user right now
[00:44] <bucky> patrickeee: reinstall and install it from your user home dir as user like you're supposed to
[00:45] <linxeh> [A]KangB: another option is apt-zip
[00:45] <linxeh> [A]KangB: not tried it though :p
[00:45] <patrickeee> I am in users
[00:45] <lcabrini> terdman: what do you mean with 'over gnome'.
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  to ask in Backtrack 4  perhaps... i guess... of course runningstuff as root.. may of broken things...
[00:45] <patrickeee> thats why my name changed
[00:45] <patrickeee> it could have but its ok
[00:45] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  try making a 'new' user.. see if the commands work for them.
[00:45] <terdman> umm.. can I switch between the too
[00:45] <[A]KangB> linxeh, apt-zip!? whta's that!?
[00:45] <lcabrini> terdman: yes. 'sudo aptitude install fluxbox'
[00:46] <patrickeee> Your command is fine
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> terdman:  you install other window mangers.. an the gdm login screen has a menu item to select the ones you use for that login session
[00:46] <patrickeee> I think it's just the back track
[00:46] <twig11> What does the "Rescue a broken system" boot option on the ubuntu 9.04 alternate install disc do? Will I be able to access the existing filesystem on the computer after using it? I'm working on an older PC for a friend, and I'd like to get Ubuntu running on it. It seems there is a graphics problem on this machine because the standard Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop cds crash when I try to boot from them, even though the machine has 51
[00:46] <patrickeee> theres alot of things I can't really do
[00:46] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  i would have to suggest getting a normal ubuntu cd. and installing normal ubuntu then.
[00:46] <patrickeee> Yes, after I'm done with what I'm here for
[00:47] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  and what are you here for then?
[00:47] <usr13> twig11: "the machine is 51"?
[00:47] <patrickeee> network security
[00:47] <[A]KangB> linxeh, I have found the way to do so that i was looking for
[00:47] <twig11> usr13: I'm not sure what you're asking. I did say it has 512 Mb RAM.
[00:47] <usr13> Dr_Willis: patrickeee  ?
[00:48] <[A]KangB> linxeh, sudo dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip > Packages.gz
[00:48] <patrickeee> What?
[00:48] <usr13> twig11: Oh.. well you cut the last few characters off.
[00:48] <usr13> patrickeee: What is your question about network security?
[00:48] <bastidrazor> !clone
[00:48] <twig11> usr13: Oh, sorry, it showed up fine in my chat client.
[00:48] <ravigehlot> Hey guys...we went strictly Ubuntu at home. We do not have any more Windows running in any of our computers. We are looking for a good brand-name printer that is compatible with Linux.
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  good luck.. I dont do 'network security' much..  I just dont run stuff i dont need.
[00:49] <ARMENIAN> is there a way to change the background of just one workspace?
[00:49] <[A]KangB> linxeh, I do a synaptic script to download the packages... then I download it to a folder... ther I run that on this folder. Then copy all to a CD :D
[00:49] <patrickeee> Oh I just meant ill install ubuntu after I'm done with the back track features that I'm here for
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  avoid 'canon'
[00:49] <ravigehlot> Dr_Willis: I heard Brother is pretty good
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:   check cups.org also  befor you buy.
[00:49] <twig11> usr13: 512 Mb RAM and 1GHz cpu.
[00:49] <funkyHat> ravigehlot: HP would be a good bet, and avoid brother (cups bugs)
[00:49] <bazhang> patrickeee, backtrack is not supported here; try #remote-exploit
[00:49] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  not tried them.. it end to stick with HP. but some HP's have less then perfect linux support.
[00:49] <usr13> twig11: That should do fine, if the hardware is all operational.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  hp has a low end color laser i was looking at last year.. but the linux drivers were lacking then.. they may be better now.
[00:50] <patrickeee> Dr_Willis: Just our networks vulnerbility and what we can do to inprove it from intruders
[00:50] <ravigehlot> Dr_Willis: I need Laser
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:   dont run serveices you dont need..
[00:50] <patrickeee> bazhang I know that
[00:50] <ravigehlot> funkyHat: Brothers seems to be one of the brands with the most interest in Linux
[00:50] <terdman> ok i have fluxbox installed but how do i switch to that window manager now ???
[00:50] <usr13> twig11: What video card does it have in it?
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> ravigehlot:  yep - this was a color laser for $300 i think  (low end model)  I got a 14 yr old HP laserjet 6l  thats still running.
[00:50] <Dr_Willis> terdman:  gdm screen.. menu items..
[00:51] <bazhang> patrickeee, so please Ubuntu only questions here. not Ubuntu-based (ie BT4)
[00:51] <terdman> gdmscreen ? sorry
[00:51] <mdg> anyone know how to send files from mp3 player via mtp-tools?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> terdman:  yes.. at the GDM login screen.. theres menu items somewhere to select a session
[00:51] <patrickeee> I'm in school for computer networking I have to learn about these type of things like arp poisoning MiTm attacks , crossite scripting etc
[00:51] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters ravigehlot
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> patrickeee:  sounds like you got lots of reading to do.
[00:51] <mdg> anyone know how to send files from mp3 player via mtp-tools?
[00:52] <patrickeee> bazhang I haven't asked any question about backtrack the only question I've asked here was how to install a Mac4lin
[00:52] <ravigehlot> Dr_Willis: NewEgg has a wirless workgroup printer for $124 and it has drivers for Linux
[00:52] <funkyHat> ravigehlot: a friend of mine has trouble with his brother printer, that might be only that particular model though. it's an mfc-235c (I think)
[00:52] <bazhang> patrickeee, and you were answered
[00:52] <twig11> usr13: right. Obviously there's a problem with the machine; that's why I'm using the alternate cd. If I use the "rescue a broken system" boot option, will I be able to get access to the existing filesystem? (Win XP Professional)\
[00:52] <ravigehlot> bazhang: checking....
[00:52] <patrickeee> Yes Dr Willin but I can do two of the three
[00:52] <usr13> patrickeee: Linix is definately for you if you want to learn about networking and network secruity tools etc...
[00:53] <usr13> twig11: If it is readable, yes.
[00:53] <ravigehlot> funkyHat: I see. I am not going for MFC models. I am sticking with just a printer without multifunction
[00:53] <mdg> How do I handle spaces in my mp3 file names when transferring via MTP-tools
[00:53] <patrickeee> for windows we have cain and abel for linux theres back track 4...so far I think BT4 is great
[00:53] <bazhang> !ot > patrickeee
[00:53] <ARMENIAN> anyone?
[00:53] <ravigehlot> bazhang: Nice. Thanks man.
[00:54] <twig11> usr13: I know it's readable, because XP still boots, but it's pretty unstable. I'm not sure how to find out what graphics card it has.
[00:54] <bastidrazor> mdg, file\ name
[00:54] <mdg> ARMENIAN: are you using KDE or gnome?
[00:54] <mdg> bastidrazor: slash and a space?
[00:54] <bastidrazor> mdg, yes
[00:55] <usr13> twig11: After booting linux from CD use command  lspci
[00:55] <CanadianLinux> Can someone give me a hand. New ubuntu install, everytime I run a wine app, the screen flickers, the app eventually loads but crashes.
[00:55] <mdg> bastidrazor: can you give an actual example?
[00:55] <ravigehlot> OK. The model I am looking to buy  Brother HL-5730DW is supported but it has 1 glitch
[00:55] <usr13> twig11: or:  lspci |grep -i vga
[00:55] <mdg> ARMENIAN: KDE or gnome desktop?
[00:55] <ARMENIAN> mdg: gnome
[00:55] <bastidrazor> mdg, Live Music.mpe  = Live\ Music.mpe
[00:56] <mdg> bastidrazor: oh! okay.  thanks!
[00:56] <twig11> usr13: I'm not sure how to boot linux to a command line using the alternate cd. Can you explain?
[00:56] <mdg> ARMENIAN: Not possible to change just one in gnome.  KDE can do that though
[00:56] <ARMENIAN> mdg: ohh, crap, thanks anyway :)
[00:56] <bastidrazor> mdg, same goes for directories.
[00:57] <twig11> usr13: I'm at the main menu with the options "Install ubuntu" "Check disc" "
[00:57] <mdg> bastidrazor: excellent!  thanksomuch  :)
[00:57] <patrickeee> dfs
[00:57] <twig11> usr13: Test memory, boot from hard disk, rescue etc.
[00:57] <bastidrazor> mdg, also try tab-completion  .. Live*hit tab
[00:57] <jeffs> sup every one?
[00:57] <swaj> is Wubi just virtualization on the back end? or does it boot from an image on your hardware? (like Windows 7 boot to VHD)
[00:57] <twig11> usr13: sorry for that disjointed sentence
[00:57] <usr13> twig11: rescue
[00:58] <twig11> usr13: thanks. and I'm afraid I'm going to need some advice going through it.
[00:58] <twig11> usr13: language: English. I can do that.
[00:59] <jeffs> any one hear know how to use the jack connection kit?
[00:59] <twig11> usr13: Maybe this gives you a clue: "No common CD-ROM drive was detected"
[01:00] <twig11> Load CDROM drivers from removable media?
[01:00] <twig11> And I don't have removable media from which to load any drivers.
[01:01] <jeffs> any one hear know how to use the jack connection kit?
[01:01] <DarkMage26> Having shut down issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6a36b976
[01:01] <soreau> jeffs: Either google for jack on gentoo or ask in #jack
[01:01] <soreau> jeffs: Or maybe #alsa
[01:01] <jeffs> thanks
[01:01] <usr13> twig11: What type of CDROM is it?
[01:02] <twig11> usr13: the drive or the disc?
[01:02] <jeffs> how to I whisper someone, im new to ubuntu and irc
[01:02] <jeffs> ?
[01:02] <bastidrazor> jeffs, /msg nick msg
[01:03] <usr13>  twig11 The drive. What type of CDROM drive is it?
[01:04] <twig11> usr13: I don't know. It's internal, and I haven't opened it. shall I shut down and find out?
[01:04] <twig11> Or is there another way?
[01:04] <usr13> twig11: No, there is no other way.
[01:04] <usr13> twig11: What type of PC is it?
[01:05] <wWales> how can i make it so when i type dict in teminal it will run curl dict://dict.org/d: with the search term filled in as a flag to dict, for example dict encyklopedia would bring the dict.org entry
[01:05] <mojo_> good morning everyone
[01:05] <mojo_> it's just crazy to see so many ppl here
[01:06] <mojo_> what a great community
[01:06] <twig11> usr13: it looks like a generic box somebody built themselves. It's got a 1GHz AMD processor and 512 Mb RAM that's about all I know.
[01:06] <twig11> mojo_: well hi mojo
[01:06] <wWales> or is there another way of acessing a dictionary trough the terminal?
[01:07] <usr13> twig11: Open it and see what type of CDROM is inside.
[01:07] <twig11> I'm doing that.
[01:07] <usr13> !usb | twig11
[01:08] <dannyboy997> help
[01:09] <usr13> usr13 throws dannyboy997 a life line!
[01:10] <bastidrazor> wWales, create an alias
[01:10] <DarkMage26> Issue with shutting down system. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6a36b976
[01:10] <usr13> dannyboy997: Ask your question(s). (I was only teasing.)
[01:11] <wWales> bastidrazor: i found a way to make aliases, thanks for the tip!
[01:12] <bastidrazor> wWales, i had some links ready if needed. good luck and happy alias'ing
[01:12] <[A]KangB> thnaks people... thanks linxeh
[01:12] <[A]KangB> bye!
[01:13] <usr13> DarkMage26: Try:  shutdown -r now
[01:14] <terdman> hello
[01:14] <usr13> wWales: It's just:  ifconfig eth0:0  ;  ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.5.5   etc..
[01:15] <twig11> usr13: okay, I've got my drive out now. It's made by NEC Corporation and it has a model number. What do I need to get it working when I boot?
[01:15] <DarkMage26> usr13: stuck on the other line that states "*Stopping GNOME Display Manager... [ OK ]
[01:15] <usr13> twig11: I dono. Get another CDROM drive
[01:15] <usr13> twig11: Or do USB
[01:15] <usr13> !usb | twig11
[01:16] <twig11> usr13: thanks, will look into it.
[01:16] <bastidrazor> DarkMage26, from my understanding shutdown doesn't turn off a computer... shutdown sends a request to the init(8) daemon to bring the system down  into  the  appropriate  run‐level  ..
[01:16] <usr13> twig11: NP
[01:17] <terdman> anyone use packagekit
[01:17] <usr13> DarkMage26: What happens when you hit the power button.  (That's how I shut mine down.)
[01:18] <ghostofthephoeni> Hi all!'
[01:19] <DarkMage26> usr13: I can only shutdown once it freezes by holding down the power button. Nothing happens when I just press it and then release it.
[01:19] <usr13> DarkMage26: bastidrazor is correct, shutdown does not turn off the computer.
[01:21] <usr13> DarkMage26: I don't know, but sounds like acpi is broken.  See:  http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/
[01:22] <usr13> DarkMage26: If you hit the power button when the system is running, it is supposed to shut down the OS and power off the PC, (if all is working as expected).
[01:23] <bastidrazor> DarkMage26, under power management you can specify how your box will react to a power button press
[01:24] <ShazbotMcNasty> hey - most of the songs on my girlfriends ipod are locked when I try to listen to them on banshee, does anyone know how I can unlock them, or how to listen to them?
[01:24] <intangir> how do i start a seperate X session on ubuntu 9.04.. since FOREVER on ANY distro ive been able to just say 'startx -- :1' and it worked.. now it doesnt
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> ShazbotMcNasty:  if she bought them fro the itunes store.. they will only play on that ipod i think
[01:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> that's no good
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> intangir:  use 'sudo' befor that?  ive not tried it in ages also.
[01:25] <dsdeiz> i downloaded firefox 3.5 from the ppa, what is this shiretoko? :-/
[01:25] <intangir> ive never had to use sudo before it before
[01:25] <intangir> and i dont think it would be a good idea
[01:25] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: I don't know, but I sure am happy with my Sansa Express.
[01:26] <dsdeiz> anyone?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz:  perhaps the code name for the release.
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz:  or the ppa maintainer.
[01:26] <DarkMage26> usr13: I use the shut down command from the desktop to init the shut down. It starts to shut down by going black and it shows "Broadcast message from root@holly-desktop (unknown) at <time>", which then repeats before "The system is going down for halt NOW!"
[01:26] <dsdeiz> Dr_Willis: oh okay.. so it's still firefox 3.5?
[01:26] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: I just rip my own CDs
[01:26] <tenach> Shiretoko is the developer milestone for the latest Firefox
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> dsdeiz:  i imagine 3.5 will be in the normal repos soon enough
[01:27] <ShazbotMcNasty> usr13, it's actually not my ipod - it's my girlfriends, and she wanted to listen to her music on her computer
[01:27] <dsdeiz> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks.. then I guess I'll wait
[01:27] <zerwas> testdisk shows a partition size of 598939482 TiB
[01:27] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: Copy it to the computer first.
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> ShazbotMcNasty:  if she bought the tunes from the itunes store.. i dont think she can. not without 'cracking' the DRM?
[01:27] <ShazbotMcNasty> somewhere it said I can burn then on an audio cd and then rip them onto the computer, but that sounds like a lot of hassle, and somewhat expensive considering she's got over 60 gigs of music
[01:28] <ShazbotMcNasty>  :/
[01:28] <dunks> yay to DRM ._.
[01:28] <dunks> Although I think you can unlock them if you use iTunes via her account details
[01:28] <dunks> but I'm not sure, and that's only with iTunes
[01:28] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: I think you first need to jailbreak it.
[01:29] <jrib> ShazbotMcNasty: you should be contacting apple about this.
[01:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> I don't have the ipod with me, but I'll try to copy them to her computer or something...
[01:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> that's true
[01:29] <ShazbotMcNasty> although they probably don't give a flip
[01:29] <usr13> ShazbotMcNasty: And then you can just copy the music to your /home/user/music directory, (or where-ever you want).
[01:29] <jeffrey_> hey when I mount a directory where is it located in the filesystem?
[01:29] <dunks> depends where you mount it
[01:29] <jeffrey_> like via sftp
[01:30] <jrib> ShazbotMcNasty: if that's true, then you should reconsider giving them money.  But whenever I've dealt with apple customer service they have been great
[01:30] <ShazbotMcNasty> if it'll let me..
[01:30] <jrib> jeffrey_: where you mounted it
[01:30] <ShazbotMcNasty> I shall try
[01:30] <ShazbotMcNasty> should I call them or something?
[01:30] <jeffrey_> using the "connect to server" functionality, I mounted it through that
[01:30] <dunks> try 'mounted'
[01:30] <dunks> it'll tell you.
[01:30] <jrib> ShazbotMcNasty: worth a try
[01:30] <jrib> jeffrey_: ~/.gvfs if you need a way to get to it on the command line
[01:31] <jeffrey_> jrib, thats exactly what I needed! excellent, thanks
[01:31] <mrpockets> ohhi
[01:31] <zerothis> How do I share folder on the network. the share tab is gone from the properties?
[01:31] <songer> hello people
[01:31] <mrpockets> zerothis, so do it the real way and edit samba.conf
[01:31] <songer> how can i update tu sid?
[01:31] <usr13> zerothis: scp
[01:32] <jrib> songer: are you using ubuntu?
[01:32] <usr13> zerothis: or:  nfs
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> songer:  ask in #debian?
[01:32] <zerothis> samba, for NSF shares?
[01:32] <ilyas> what is best hard drive ? western digital or sagate or matrox
[01:32] <songer> sorry
[01:32] <usr13> zerothis: Yes
[01:32] <jrib> !ot | ilyas
[01:32] <jrib> ilyas: try ##hardware maybe
[01:32] <usr13> !nfs | zerothis
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> ilyas:  i had a 500gb hd die. seagate.. and they gave me no hassles with their warrenty. I will be getting seagate more often in the future.
[01:33] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[01:33]  * Dr_Willis shuts up now.
[01:33] <dunks> lo
[01:33] <Tetracomm> How do I open the address bar in Nautilus?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> Tetracomm:  if its hidden.. theres a menu item to show it
[01:33] <mrpockets> Dr_Willis, we've been seeing a TON of Maxtor 2 gig externals die lately (cough i'm off topic cough)
[01:33] <bastidrazor> mrpockets, 2gig.. i'd kill them too
[01:33] <mrpockets> *2TB
[01:34] <Tenkawa> !ff3.5
[01:34] <hydester> i think my 4gb thumbdrive is hosed/  it suddenly says "no medium found" when i try to access it.  anybody know of any tools to help troubleshoot this further?
[01:34] <zerothis> usr13: THat's terribly complicated what happened to the simpe right-click, share, shrer this folder?
[01:34] <Tetracomm> Which item?
[01:34] <Joelito> what happen to ubuntu.org :\
[01:34] <jeffrey_> Firefox is out!!
[01:34] <mrpockets> THE BOX IS OUT?!
[01:34] <mrpockets> s/b/f
[01:35] <ilyas> matrox
[01:35] <zerothis> jeffrey_: agreed, Firefox is out the window
[01:35] <DarkMage26> how do I find what version of acpi I'm running?
[01:35] <jeffrey_> what is up with ubuntu.org?
[01:35] <bastidrazor> DarkMage26, acpi -v
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> jeffrey_:  you mean to imply that the site is non-functional?
[01:35] <DarkMage26> bastidrazor: thanks
[01:35] <Simetrical> Is the firefox-3.5 package in Jaunty going to have the final release installed as an update?
[01:35] <Joelito> Dr_Willis: I do :)
[01:36] <Simetrical> Ah, looks like it, never mind.
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> Then youy should say so. :P
[01:36] <dragon_> a simple command to create a disk image of an external HDD?
[01:36] <mrpockets> dd
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> dragon_:  dd if=/dev/hdXX of=image
[01:36] <jeffrey_> Dr_Willis, the site is a redirect
[01:36] <dragon_> Dr_Willis: will it take care of the size and format and everything?
[01:37] <Joelito> well..direct to site http://www.ubuntu.com/ :)
[01:37] <wWales> is there a way to focus a window from terminal?
[01:38] <mrpockets> wWales, thats a great question...
[01:38] <DarkMage26> usr13: does a desktop need acpi installed to shut down correctly?
[01:38] <zerothis> wWales: maybe zenity but I don't know
[01:38] <usr13> DarkMage26: Yes
[01:39] <zerothis> wWales: KDE windows have options using QT commands
[01:39] <Godel-Paradox> how can i create an iso from cd?
[01:39] <wWales> mrpockets: i know oyu could alt+tab but with 10+ windows running it get tiresome at times, but id like to have a way to run something like "focus firefox"
[01:40] <zerothis> Godel-Paradox: Add/Remove programs search for iso and choose an app to install. there's a command line way to do it also
[01:40] <mrpockets> isn't that what the mouse is for?
[01:40] <mrpockets> wWales,  you have Compiz running?
[01:40] <usr13> DarkMage26: apt-get install acpi  acpid acpi-support
[01:41] <wWales> mrppckets: no i havent
[01:41] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: mkisofs
[01:41] <usr13> !mkisofs | Godel-Paradox
[01:41] <mrpockets> if you install Compiz there're some windows flippers that make it a little more convienant to organize a larger multitude of windows
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> dragon_:  nope.. wont take care of much of anything.. thats not what you asked for.
[01:41] <wWales> zerothis: the QT 4 Settings in gnome doesnt allow me to set any terminal commands
[01:42] <shino__> HEY i just finished watching starwars in the terminal haha
[01:42] <owh> Hi folks, trying to update Gutsy to Hardy. Need to bring Gutsy up to date, that is, the last released packages. The software sources have been set to main server, but the archive shows 404 errors. What do I do next?
[01:42] <shino__> HEY i just finished watching starwars in the terminal haha
[01:42] <DarkMage26> usr13: then what?
[01:42] <mrpockets> shino__, ?
[01:43] <shino__> idk just
[01:43] <under> Hi, how can I add program in startup?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[01:43] <shino__> just wondering is there more than just starwars?
[01:43] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: Applications like k3b do it, but can be done from CLI and I think it's something like:  mkisofs -o some-name.ios  /media/cdrom/
[01:43] <wWales> shino_: try this; apt-get moo
[01:43] <under> Hi, how can I add program in startup *by shell*?
[01:43] <usr13> DarkMage26: Then try it and see if it works.
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> shino__:  mplayer has an 'ascii output' feature that lets you watch anything in the console.
[01:44] <mrpockets> shino__, or aptitude -v moo
[01:44] <usr13> DarkMage26: reboot
[01:44] <mrpockets> shino__, or aptitude -vv moo
[01:44] <InevGlitch> Hi all.  I'm in dire need of some assistance.  I posted a thread on the forums, but no responses and it's been a couple days.
[01:44] <shino__> ok let me check it out
[01:44] <dunks> What's the link? :)
[01:44] <InevGlitch> Any chance someone can help me out?
[01:44] <InevGlitch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1200009
[01:44] <mrpockets> inversions, you're in luck, because I'm in dire need of answering some questions
[01:45] <mrpockets> except reguardless how dire my need IS, i'm unable to fulfill unless you ask one..
[01:45] <InevGlitch> I posted a link to my thread, it's all explained in there to the best of my knowledge.
[01:45] <mrpockets> so either reword yourself, or give me a link
[01:45] <mrpockets> I'm not about to go splunking through the forums
[01:45] <kevin__>  snowcavalier
[01:45] <InevGlitch> Basically, my computer won't load the gui, I need help troubleshooting.
[01:45] <n1lqj> question:  apache2 I have added Authenticated directories to my httpd.conf and this works, but now the directories are hidden, is there an option to make them visible in apache?
[01:46] <shino__> haha funny
[01:46] <owh> Never mind, this tells it all: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[01:46] <mrpockets> shino__, whats the startwars in terminal you speak of?
[01:47] <DarkMage26> usr13: no such luck. still need to hold the power button to complete the shutdown. :(
[01:47] <shino__> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl     type that in the terminal
[01:47] <dunks> ############################################################]''
[01:47] <shino__> you will see star wars like never before
[01:47] <shino__> haha
[01:47] <kpas> Question: I need to manually change my screen resolution but not via the GUI interface because it only allows me to select 800xxxx  I am running 9.04 desktop
[01:47] <dahlia> I just upgraded my video card in my 8.04 x64 system to a nvidia 9800 from an 8600. How can I make sure I have the latest drivers?
[01:48] <mrpockets> HAHAHAHAHAHAA
[01:48] <wWales> somehow, the terminal reminds me of Edward, in Cowboy Bebop, they have the same style?
[01:48] <ctmjr> dahlia: open nvidia-settings it will tell what driver ver. you have
[01:48] <DarkMage26> I have a shut down problem. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m531b0a3
[01:48] <JdGordon> I've got a problem with autofs... if I manually mount  a smb share like this "sudo mount -o username=guest,password= //server/stuff /media/temp/" it works fine, but if I fix the /etc/auto.smb file to look like "mountopts="-fstype=cifs -o username=guest,password="" and then goto /smb/server/stuff if works, but the directory listing keeps being the same as whats in /smb/server.... any ideas?
[01:48] <shino__> haha so im guessing you were able to see starwars?
[01:48] <dahlia> ty ctmjr, where do I find that?
[01:48] <mrpockets> this is freak'en halarious
[01:49] <shino__> haha i know!!
[01:49] <voss> dahlia, What drivers are you currently running?
[01:50] <ctmjr> dahlia: i am not sure in gnome xfce it is in settings you can type nvidia-settings in a teminal
[01:50] <dahlia> the hardware drivers dialog says NVIDIA accellerated graphics driver (latest cards)
[01:50] <ctmjr> *terminal
[01:50] <voss> dahlia system----preferences----hardware drivers
[01:50] <dahlia> ty ctmjr
[01:50] <dahlia> got that open now voss
[01:51] <wWales> shino_: i had heard about this easter egg but i hadnt watched it until now, haha
[01:51] <voss> 8600 and the 9800 should use the same drivers
[01:51] <shino__> haha
[01:51] <dahlia> kk ty voss :)
[01:51] <shino__> i had been putting it off for a while
[01:51] <shino__> haha
[01:51] <kpas> Question: I need to manually change my screen resolution but not via the GUI interface because it only allows me to select 800xxxx  I am running 9.04 desktop
[01:51] <voss> If your using version 180 youre fine
[01:52] <wWales> kpas; try using the xrandr command
[01:52] <mrpockets> could you make an alaias for the command sudo rm -rf / to just echo something like "Jesus you're a noob!"
[01:52] <mrpockets> ?
[01:52] <bazhang> shino__, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <mrpockets> **DISCLAIMER DO NOT! TRY TYPIONG THAT
[01:52] <shino__> haha ok?
[01:53] <kpas> thansk will try
[01:53] <bazhang> !ot > mrpockets
[01:54] <dahlia> hmm I guess I have version 169.12
[01:54] <dahlia> can I update that with aptitude?
[01:55] <wWales> aside to mrpockets command he doesnt want you to run: its the equivalent of "format c:" in winbased systems
[01:55] <Guest69400> alguien que sepa como configurar mi propio servidor IRC
[01:55] <Guest69400> :d
[01:56] <dragon_> !es | Guest69400
[01:57] <JdGordon> anyone use autofs and samba shares?
[01:57] <BitWraith> when I add/trust bluetooth devices, where is this convfiguration saved?
[01:57] <nathaniel_> hey guys i've just tried to login to terminal as sudo but gives me an authentication error... any ideas?
[01:58] <BitWraith> nathaniel_: log in as a normal user, then use sudo
[01:58] <BitWraith> sudo isn't a user, it's a program
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:  i dont think an alias can have spaces like that.. You coule replace 'rm' with a script that does sanity checks however.
[01:58] <ctmjr> dahlia: you should have a hardware driver tap in your menu if it says your using the driver go to nvidia and download the current driver and follow the how to, it is simple
[01:58] <dahlia> ty
[01:58] <tsai1> Hi all, I'm having problems with  grub,  I have followed the instructions at http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/140845-error-2-a.html.  I still get device not found even though I can see it with a live ubuntu disk.  Any ideas?
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> wWales:  that command is worse then format c:. :) format c - will erase one drive..  the rm command will erase every file on every mounted r/w filesystem.
[01:59] <ctmjr> dahlia: just to let you know they are up to driver version 185 so yours is a little outdated
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Nvidia drivers are alwyas  outdated in ubuntu :() thats just how it works.
[02:00] <dahlia> ya the new card isnt working as good as I thought it should :/
[02:00] <nathaniel_> @BitWraith ... I know it's a program ... ok say i type in sudo apt-get install packagexyz ... it's asks me for the root password. i type it in and then i gives me an authentication error
[02:01] <shino__> how do i change to another server?
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> shino__:  if you mean irc server... /server new.server.name
[02:01] <DarkMage26> I have a shut down issue. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m531b0a3
[02:01] <stennant101> Hello all
[02:01] <shino__> haha yea were can i find like a list of servers?
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> shino__:  deends on what irc network you want
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> !freenode
[02:02] <wWales> Dr_Willis: ok ok so its format c: with quad-damage... i find this a reoccuring theme with using linux after having been a long time windows user xD
[02:02] <shino__> like to for new tech dissconsions or sumthin random
[02:02] <guedesav> good morning/noon/night
[02:03] <guedesav> I have a strange problem with hald, it disconfigures my keyboard misteriously...
[02:03] <guedesav> anyone has a clue of why?
[02:04] <mrpockets> Dr_Willis, yeah, soemthing like that
[02:04] <mrpockets> idk, just wondering about the possibility of idiotproofing linux
[02:04] <Nubo_Haucente> guedesav: Same happened to me
[02:05] <guedesav> damn
[02:05] <Nubo_Haucente> I rebooted
[02:05] <Nubo_Haucente> And fine again
[02:05] <guedesav> yeah, me too
[02:05] <guedesav> the problem is that means I can't use any kind of GUI for wireless connection and such
[02:05] <guedesav> cause they need dbus and hald running
[02:05] <guedesav> and I can't rely only on iwconfig and iwlist, sometimes it just doesn't work, especially with WPA
[02:06] <guedesav> I need to know why HAL simply assumes my keyboard is "evdev" when it's explicitly stated in xorg.conf that it is "xorg"
[02:07] <wWales> mrpockets: theres no inbuilt prompt on such a rm command?
[02:07] <wWales> it all just goes *poof*? :(
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> wWales:  linux commands do what you tell them to..
[02:07] <mrpockets> IIRC it'll stop at /bin
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:   err.. no it wont. :)
[02:07] <mrpockets> on the count of it'll delete the rm command
[02:07] <mrpockets> but I've never tried it :-P
[02:07] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:  'disk cache in ram'
[02:07] <uvstudios> hello everyone how are you guys doing?
[02:07] <guedesav> no, it'll keep goin
[02:08] <guedesav> rm will already be in the RAM, and will keep executing
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> mrpockets:  you can  use fdisk and delete a running systems / and other filesstems.. and it will run.. for a while.
[02:08] <mrpockets> until you reboot?
[02:08] <linuxguy2009> Is 9.10 gonna be the next LTS or guys?
[02:08] <DarkMage26> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m531b0a3. This is a shut down issue I'm have, can anyone help?
[02:09] <lstarnes> linuxguy2009: no, 10.04
[02:09] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, you just keep getting lines liek that one after the other?
[02:09] <linuxguy2009> ok thanks
[02:10] <linuxguy2009> thats right my bad
[02:10] <mdg> hello!
[02:10] <wWales> Dr_Willis: oh no, im generally in favor of that architecture, its just that in this case... ...its -everything- then again, i can imagine if all you wanna do is sweep filesystems (which i can imagine you could be in a position where that happens alot) then it makes a bit more sense, after all, there are ways to make your own prompts if that what you tell linux to do :)
[02:11] <kpas> so I type xrandr -s 1280x1024
[02:11] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: I keep getting it through most of the screen until the end. I get the *Stopping GNOME... [OK]. Then the cursor just sits there and blinks
[02:11] <kpas> and get Size 1280x1024 not found in available modes
[02:11] <derenrich_> so still no FF3.5 in the repos?
[02:11] <mrpockets> I cant say for sure, but i had a similar issue. Go to shut down and it'd do the [ 112.6340404]  CONNET DEBOUNCE FAILED!
[02:12] <mrpockets> ended up being faulty hardware (USB Port to be specific)
[02:12] <kpas> how can I add 1280x1024 as a selection so I can set it from 800xXXX to 1280x1024
[02:12] <uvstudios> hey guys i have a question about formating a disk, i know you are busy but do you have time to answer?
[02:12] <ctmjr> kpas: what does xrandr output by itself?
[02:13] <lstarnes> uvstudios: we can't answer a question that hasn't been asked
[02:13] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: how can I check for that?
[02:13] <kpas> 4 opitions
[02:13] <kpas> max 800x600
[02:13] <DarkMage26> uvstudios: what are you wanting to do?
[02:13] <uvstudios> hahaha well thank you guys
[02:13] <ctmjr> kpas: did you install any graphic card drivers?
[02:13] <platyhelminth> Hi, how to make a script that simulate the use of a keyboard key every second ?
[02:13] <kpas> yes
[02:13] <uvstudios> here i typed it out in another place but no one was able to help let me just grab what i typed
[02:14] <uvstudios> i have a 7.5 TB disk array and i am trying to format it, i tried fdisk but i was stupid and didnt know that it could only do 2TBs. So now i'm sitting here thinking if i should use parted, but i want to create a parition that windows users can use and also mac users too. I'm trying to set up a file server and will eventually cluster the data together with another server. I was thinking of
[02:14] <kpas> I moved it ti a beklin share device
[02:14] <uvstudios> setting up a logical volume with the disk, but i'm not so sure that i will need to do this, i guess i'm trying to ask what would be the best way to format my 7.5 TB drive and what format?
[02:14] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, run memtest, pull your unnecessary hardware out and see if it goes away, run fsck on the Hard Drive
[02:14] <kpas> Belkin KVM
[02:14] <kpas> I moved it ti a beklin KVM
[02:15] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: How do I do memtesting?
[02:15] <kpas> I had it directly connected to the monitor and was able to get the higher resolutions
[02:16] <uvstudios> my question is in regards of formating a disk that is 7.5 TB's and how i should format it for users that will be using a mac and a pc.
[02:16] <voss> I would love to go back in time to 1999 and tell people, hey Im gonna format my 1.5 terrabyte external hard drive with my $200 linux netbook and just watch their mouths hang open, and then tell them "everybody uses linux in the future, microsoft went out of business 2 years ago"  ;-)
[02:16] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, you have that Ubuntu CD you installed from?
[02:17] <WHARRGARBL> is ubuntu server supported here?
[02:17] <ctmjr> kpas: i do not know how to help you i do not know a thing about the kvm switch and how to configure it
[02:17] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: Just use the cd tool on reboot?
[02:17] <mrpockets> yar
[02:17] <WHARRGARBL> Is Ubuntu server supported gere?
[02:17] <mrpockets> chances are, if its your ram, you'll  have other problems too
[02:17] <WHARRGARBL> here*
[02:17] <mrpockets> WHARRGARBL,  #ubuntu-server
[02:17] <kpas> is there a file I can edit to add more resolution opition
[02:18] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: No other problems that I can see. Will run mem test now.
[02:18] <mercutio22> in firefox when middle click a link a new tab opens in the end as opposed to by the side of the parent tab, is there an extension to make the daughter tab be opened by the side of the parent tab?
[02:18] <mrroboto_> Can anyone give me a hand getting the ATI proprietary driver installed correctly?  I tried using the included application for it, but when I rebooted,  just got neon static...
[02:18] <lethu> kpas, might be xorg.conf under X11 folder if I recall well
[02:19] <kpas> k
[02:19] <mrpockets> DarkMage26, and i might be sending you barking up the wrong tree
[02:19] <mattyb> Anyone know when PHP 5.3 will be in the repos, or do we have to build from source?
[02:19] <Godel-Paradox> how can i create
[02:19] <Godel-Paradox> an iso from cd?
[02:20] <altf2o> last I saw on the php mailing list was debian had deb files for testing, but were experimental.
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> Godel-Paradox:  you can 'image' a cd to a .iso file with the proper dd command
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> !dd
[02:20] <cellofellow> Godel-Paradox: use dd. `dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/image.iso` should get you started
[02:20] <wabob> man dd
[02:20] <cellofellow> Godel-Paradox: man dd
[02:20] <altf2o> so anything 5.3 at this point is likely to be custom built or installed from an experimental tree/source
[02:20] <mrpockets> dd if=/dev/cdrom
[02:20] <mrpockets> he beat me to it
[02:21] <mattyb> altf2o: thanks.
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> can i use a program for this
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> better?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> you will wan tto use the 'bs=1024' option also - for speed.
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> k3b or something?
[02:21] <cellofellow> Actually, you can just right-click a CD-ROM icon on the desktop in Nautilus and I think it has a Copy Disk item.
[02:21] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: boot into a terminal and type sudo  aticonfig --initial then try to reboot agian and see if it worked
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> Godel-Paradox:  theres other tools that can do it.. but dd will be just as easy/fast
[02:21] <altf2o> n/p
[02:21] <provvlMBP> hi guys
[02:21] <provvlMBP> if you could label "groups" (or "piles" i guess) of icons on your desktop, what would those labels be?
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> cellofellow: this didnt work
[02:21] <Godel-Paradox> the iso when i mount it wasnt ok
[02:21] <mrpockets> provvlMBP, come again?
[02:22] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: I already removed the driver so I could boot up again.  It's no longer in the hardware driver app to reinstall, either.
[02:22] <cellofellow> Godel-Paradox: so use dd.
[02:22] <sam555> hello all!
[02:23] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: how did you remove it?
[02:23] <sam555> how would I know which version of ubuntu server I should dl?
[02:23] <Devilsprey99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/207858/ can anyone help me with this
[02:23] <sam555> 64 or 32?
[02:23] <patdk-lap> any idea how to stop ubuntu from beeping when I plug/unplug a/c power?
[02:23] <patdk-lap> can't seem to find any results on google
[02:23] <sam555> It's going on a dell optiplex 330 (a typical desktop computer)
[02:23] <provvlMBP> like,
[02:24] <provvlMBP> lets say,
[02:24] <patdk-lap> sam555, depends on if it supports 64bit, and if you have >4gigs of ram
[02:24] <provvlMBP> if you have a lot of icons in your desktop,
[02:24] <provvlMBP> and they kind of all fit into groups,
[02:24] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: Id have to look back to find the exact command, but it was a terminal command, which essentially comes down to purge=fglrx
[02:24] <benje> hello i use firefox 3.0.11 under ubuntu ibex kernel 2.6.27-14 and when i try to read html page which in css there a 120em for <a> it freeze the entire system
[02:24] <altf2o> sam555 - any should suffice, I run 8.10 on an 500mhz athlon, 256mb ram. going to upgrade to 9.04 tomorrow
[02:24] <provvlMBP> instead of making folders to put them in, if you were to push them into a group that could have a label, what would your labels say?
[02:24] <provvlMBP> for example i have "open source code" and "pics" and stuff
[02:26] <sam555> patdk-lap: altf2o: I don't have 4gb, just 2gb of ram.  Should I just go for ubuntu server 32 then?
[02:26] <patdk-lap> yep
[02:26] <sam555> kk. thanks!
[02:26] <patdk-lap> 64bit uses almost twice as much ram as 32bit
[02:26] <sam555> aww
[02:26] <patdk-lap> so unless you need it, don't waste it
[02:26] <mrpockets> indeed.
[02:26] <sam555> gotcha
[02:27] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: found it, it was apt-get remove --purge=fglrx*
[02:27] <Chaorain> I need help compiling blender on 9.04 I'm using Cmake. Help? http://www.pasteall.org/6408
[02:27] <altf2o> f you're CPU supports 64bit feel free to use it. I don't recall if the 330s do
[02:28] <boss_mc> patdk-lap: can you source that claim? (the one about double memory consumption)
[02:28] <boss_mc> Chaorain: blender is in the repos, why are you compiling it?
[02:29] <altf2o> <--- prefers scons when compiling blender. #blender-dev can likely help
[02:29] <Chaorain> boss_mc, for optimization and verse.
[02:29] <boss_mc> Chaorain: ok, just checking :)
[02:29] <benje> altf2o: optiplex 330 support core 2 duo
[02:30] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: ok go here and follow this guide to get it back but after you are doen installing it make sure to run aticonfig --initial so the driver will get loaded for you, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:30] <dahlia> how can I start my 8.04 desktop without starting X? I need to run the nvidia installer and it wants the X server shut down but I dont see an option to do that
[02:30] <benje> if it's celeron support emt64 so yes he can use 64bit os
[02:30] <altf2o> good deal.
[02:31] <Jonathancw_> Hi , i installed Ubuntu...but when it restarts the system, it goes to windows repair mode..  Its not even showing the ubuntu load screen or anything..
[02:31] <Chaorain> dahlia, System>Administration>Hardware Drivers
[02:31] <jules__> hi, i'm having a problem with xubuntu but nobody answears in the xubuntu channel, can someone help me?
[02:31] <boss_mc> dahlia: I somewhat doubt you have to install nvidia without X (have you seen !binary) but if you do, ctrl+alt+f1 to get to tty1 and then sudo service gdm stop will stop X
[02:31] <Godel-Paradox> i used dd
[02:31] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:31] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: gotcha, ill report back in a bit with success, or on my laptop.  Am I safe to assume that the module version requirements are met by the default install of 9.04?
[02:32] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, one Hard Drive or two?
[02:32] <Jonathancw_> Two hard drives, Raid config, mirroring
[02:32] <susbwoy> Hi, where can I find out what is new with the ubuntu kernel update 2.6.28-13.45?
[02:32] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: the first guide is for jaunty so i hope so
[02:33] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, Hardware raid or fake raid(shows up as two disks in ubuntu)?
[02:33] <mrroboto_> ctmjr: roger, I'm off to give it a shot
[02:33] <Jonathancw_> Hardware raid.  Ubuntu showed one hard drive - but theres two each 500 gb
[02:33] <sage_> hey what channel is for wine help???
[02:33] <Mike_lifeguard> sage_: #winehq
[02:33] <susbwoy> sage_: #winehq
[02:33] <sage_> thANKS  Mike_lifeguard
[02:34] <Mike_lifeguard> mwahaha, beat you to it, susbwoy :P
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> if i change the name of an iso
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> will this
[02:34] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, ok do you see grub on boot?
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> destroy the iso?
[02:34] <boss_mc> Godel-Paradox: nope
[02:34] <Mozillero> holas
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> i made the iso with dd
[02:34] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:34] <Jonathancw_> No I do not
[02:34] <FloodBot3> Godel-Paradox: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:34] <susbwoy> Mike_lifeguard: my new kernel image was installing :( and my screen jumped
[02:34] <Jonathancw_> IT trys to go to Start Windows Normally or Windows Rescue
[02:35] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, best bet is to reinstall grub
[02:35] <jules__> anybody?
[02:35] <Jonathancw_> How would I do that?  I reinstalled Ubuntu twice
[02:35] <boss_mc> !grub | Jonathancw_
[02:35] <Godel-Paradox> i created an image of the cd with dd. Now how can i mount it?
[02:35] <Godel-Paradox> as a cd
[02:35] <JDShewey> Hey, having trouble rebuilding a RAID0 array.
[02:35] <geirha> !iso | Godel-Paradox
[02:35] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, one sec
[02:36] <JDShewey> Whey I run mdadm --create I get /dev/sda1: device or resource busy and for /dev/sdb2 (and two other partitions) I get "this device appears to be part of an array". Any suggestions?
[02:36] <Jonathancw_> Thanks for your help btw
[02:36] <JDShewey> /dev/sda1 is unmounted and is part type linux raid autodetect
[02:36] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[02:36] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: an example?
[02:36] <Chaorain> but did you install windows after ubuntu?
[02:36] <jules__> i'm having a problem with an audio card on xubuntu, can anybody help me?
[02:37] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, But did you install windows after ubuntu?
[02:37] <JDShewey> jules__: depends on your problem. What is it?
[02:37] <jules__> yey
[02:37] <jules__> hi!
[02:37] <scunizi> How do I sort the items listed in the menus?
[02:37] <Jonathancw_> no it was installed before ubuntu
[02:37] <geirha> Godel-Paradox: replace <ISO-filename> with the path to the iso, and <mountpoint> to the dir you want to mount it to; for instance /media/cdrom
[02:37] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: sudo mount -o loop /alpha/file.iso dev/cd
[02:37] <jules__> i've been two days trying to install an audio card
[02:37] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:37] <jules__> it's a creative awe
[02:37] <jules__> sorry
[02:37] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: i want it to look like i have 2 cdroms
[02:37] <jules__> creative awe32
[02:38] <Devilsprey99> hi plz can anyone help me
[02:38] <jules__> model CT3670
[02:38] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, weird. Grub should be installed.
[02:38] <jules__> i found out that i have to use the module snd-sbawe
[02:38] <Godel-Paradox> geirha: so /media/cdrom1 and /media/cdrom2?
[02:38] <jules__> it works
[02:38] <jules__> BUT
[02:38] <Chaorain> Jonathancw_, is ubuntu on a primary partition or extended?
[02:38] <JDShewey> Devilsprey99: depends on your problem. What is it?
[02:38] <jules__> audio now only works if i run applications with administrator rights
[02:38] <jules__> (using sudo)
[02:38] <scunizi> Godel-Paradox: geirha ususally it's /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1
[02:38] <DarkMage26> mrpockets: Got no errors from mem test. Still can't get system to turn off.  :(
[02:38] <kaj> Ffs.
[02:39] <Devilsprey99> JDShewey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/207858/
[02:39] <Godel-Paradox> ok
[02:39] <jules__> i'de like not to have to run all the audio associated programs from console and using sudo
[02:39] <geirha> Godel-Paradox: the mountpoints must exist and be directories, so create them if they don't already exist
[02:40] <jules__> any idea?
[02:40] <jules__> i modified the module file
[02:40] <jules__> i added snd-sbawe at the end
[02:40] <jules__> it loads the module
[02:40] <JDShewey> Devilsprey99: Try setting the resolution manually using the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file > http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=xorg.conf+example&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&fp=kE0CVI1PqvM
[02:41] <jules__> i mean... automaticly
[02:41] <jules__> at startup
[02:41] <jules__> but it's only usable under administrator rights, as i said
[02:41] <JDShewey> jules__: I assume since you are using sudo, you are not working graphically. Can you get sound from within X?
[02:42] <neothecat> howdy.  i am running 64 bit 9.04.  has anyone had any problems with flash 10 sometimes working, sometime not in firefox 3.0.11
[02:42] <jules__> if i run programs from X (x server, right?) then i have no sound
[02:42] <jules__> i'm using fluxbox, don't know if that matters
[02:42] <odinsban1> I've got troubles with Network Manager, I want nm to start when my computer does, and I need to run a script to turn on the wireless card.
[02:42] <odinsban1> er nm-applet.
[02:43] <jules__> for example... if i run in the terminal "gnome-alsamixer" it has no sound controls
[02:43] <jules__> as if the card doesn't exist
[02:43] <odinsban1> jules__: are you using pulse audio or alsa?
[02:43] <jules__> but if i run "sudo gnome-alsamixer" then i do have the audi controls
[02:44] <jules__> i'm using alsa
[02:44] <jules__> pulse isn't even installed
[02:44] <jules__> like i was saying
[02:44] <odinsban1> jules__: I think you have to add your user to the alsa group or something along those lines.
[02:44] <jules__> "exaile" doesn't hve audio unless i use sudo
[02:44] <jules__> mmm
[02:45] <boss_mc> jules__: the sound group (?)
[02:45] <jules__> can you tell me how to do it?
[02:45] <jules__> i'm a newbie :)
[02:45] <adante> hi, when i boot up /bin/nash uses 100% cpu, what is this?
[02:45] <DarkMage26> I have a shut down problem. here is info: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[02:45] <boss_mc> odinsban1: can't you create an rc script which turns on the card and give it a lower start vaule that networkmanager?
[02:45] <manguy> I'm tracking to debug a problem I'm having in apache, and one of the solutions I read said to make sure that the apache user has the correct permissions.  How can I check to see if a certain user (apache in this case) has the permissions needed to access the files?
[02:45] <jules__> i haven't read/heard about sound or alsa groups
[02:46] <odinsban1> boss_mc: possibly, which rc script should I include that in?
[02:46] <JDShewey> jules__: I am not sure why you can't use your soundcard as a standard user, however you can use the sudoers file to allow your standard user to automatically run certian programs with full permissions without having to enter a password. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[02:46] <boss_mc> odinsban1: make a new one
[02:46] <jules__> mm
[02:46] <JDShewey> If adding to the sound group does not work.
[02:46] <mitchellvc> please, some time ago i was able to open a png or jpeg file from openoffice impress in presentation mode (through a link) with eye of gnome, now i cant do it since i reinstalled Ubuntu 8.10 and i dont know how to do ti
[02:46] <dsdeiz> how do fix a broken install again?
[02:47] <Chaorain> Can Iget help with this? http://www.pasteall.org/6408
[02:47] <Devilsprey99> anyone here plays freetennis
[02:47] <jules__> i guess that would work but it's a little... untidy? i don't know how it's said in english
[02:47] <ctmjr> jules__: try sudo adduser  "user name" audio
[02:47] <mitchellvc> please, some time ago i was able to open a png or jpeg file from openoffice impress in presentation mode (through a link) with eye of gnome, now i cant do it since i reinstalled Ubuntu 8.10 and i dont know how to fix it
[02:48] <boss_mc> !repeat | mitchellvc
[02:48] <JDShewey> jules__: I would call that a "kludge"
[02:49] <boss_mc> jules__: although untidy is fine... ;-)
[02:49] <jules__> kludge?
[02:49] <jules__> i'll google it
[02:49] <jules__> hahaha
[02:50] <boss_mc> jules__: a kludge is an untidy solution to a problem which works but there should be a better solution
[02:50] <jules__> ctmjr should i reboot now?
[02:50] <chalcedony> are there any tricks to get a computer to enter the bios?
[02:50] <boss_mc> jules__: restart X or reboot
[02:50] <boss_mc> chalcedony: the very first screen after you turn it on should say press <blah> to enter bios/setup
[02:51] <ctmjr> jules__: yes
[02:51] <boss_mc> chalcedony: press <blah>! (it's often esc, f2, f10, tab or f8)
[02:51] <DarkMage26> chalcedony: usually esc or f11 or f12
[02:51] <boss_mc> chalcedony: basically anything.... :(
[02:51] <din7> press the any key
[02:51] <JDShewey> chalcedony: It is also often the delete key
[02:51] <DarkMage26> lol
[02:52] <jules__> boss_mc i thought it had to be something like that... thanks!
[02:52] <jules__> "restart X" means to log out and in, am i right?
[02:52] <boss_mc> jules__: that will be enough in this case
[02:52] <jules__> or restarting fluxbox is enough?
[02:53] <boss_mc> jules__: or thtt
[02:53] <boss_mc> *that
[02:53] <JDShewey> jules__: yes. CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE will do this very abruptly also
[02:53] <jules__> great
[02:53] <boss_mc> !dontzap | JDShewey
[02:53] <boss_mc> bah
[02:53] <jules__> i'll try and then i'll report back
[02:53] <jules__> thanks!
[02:53] <boss_mc> JDShewey: ctrl+alt+backspace was dropped in Jaunty
[02:54] <JDShewey> right you are. Forgot about that.
[02:54] <Belboz99> Hey all, for years I have used the cp command to copy a device (usually a CD or DVD) to an ISO file, this has worked flawlessly, until now, what has changed?
[02:54] <Jimmio> JDShewey: sudo apt-get install dontzap and then run dontzap --disable.
[02:54] <din7> how about sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:55] <boss_mc> Belboz99: the standard tool to do that is dd (I don't know why cp has stopped working, or why it ever did...)
[02:55] <Jimmio> Could Compiz be screwing up Gnome Remote Desktop? The Windows user sees a screenshot, not a moving video D:
[02:55] <Belboz99> boss_mc: thanks, I just tried dd, and I got the exact same results, it copied 1.7MB and failed
[02:55] <boss_mc> din7: involves switching tty and is as abrupt as ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:55] <boss_mc> Belboz99: corrupt CD/damaged drive?
[02:56] <Belboz99> boss_mc: this has occurred identically on two seperate PC's with 2 separate discs
[02:56] <chalcedony> DarkMage26 boss_mc it *says* to hit tab to enter bios ..NOTHING happens differntly .. whether i press it and hold it, tap it once or tap it fast or slow
[02:56] <geirha> Jimmio: Likely, yes.
[02:56] <DarkMage26> chalcedony: did you try the other keys said?
[02:56] <Belboz99> boss_mc: I can also browse the disk just fine, both through the CLI and  through Nautilus
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> hi all i am new to this chanel
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> :)
[02:57] <dsdeiz> is there like a password manager package?
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> i would like to ask a Q re Wireless connectivity
[02:57] <goanUbuntu> WiFI
[02:57] <boss_mc> chalcedony: normally pressing esc shows you the boot messages, try that while pressing tab, see if anything changes
[02:57] <chalcedony> boss_mc what other keys .. i did tab and delete
[02:57] <odinsban1> Something that is strange, the nm-applet and this wireless card and nm-applet work great from live cd, but from the actual install I can't turn on the card, I have to use a script.
[02:57] <Belboz99> boss_mc: only things that have changed that I am aware of is a recent kernel update, should I go ahead and revert back to an older kernel temporarily?
[02:58] <xangua> ju,..............
[02:58] <boss_mc> Belboz99: no idea, you could try it, report a bug if that fixes the problem...
[02:58] <DarkMage26> boss_mc: chalcedony: esc, f1, f2, f5, f8, f11, f12
[02:58] <chalcedony> ok i'm trying to use the ubuntu live cd.. when it trips out on my monitors then ill try escape with it, thank you :)
[02:58] <Jimmio> Is there a way to turn off compiz temporarily and restart it the exact way it was including the emerald decoration manager?
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: sudo metacity --replace
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: then sudo compiz --replace
[02:59] <Belboz99> okay, thanks boss_mc, I'm going to be rebooting the server, so all my internet connectivity will be down for about 3 min
[02:59] <boss_mc> run these from alt+f2 launcher
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: not from command line (or if you do, run them with & after them)
[02:59] <boss_mc> Jimmio: i.e. sudo metacity --replace &
[03:00] <boss_mc> Belboz99: kl, gl
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> the 2 green balls show on upper panel and the spining blue circle
[03:00] <ctmjr> Jimmio: or install the fuzion icon
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> both green balls are lit
[03:00] <Jimmio> Doesn't do anything, Fuzion icon?
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> but ehtn after 30 secs goes back to tiny computer screen s w/red x
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> menainsg it wasnt able to connect
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> i have confirmed that my u/p is correct
[03:00] <goanUbuntu> any clue?
[03:01] <goanUbuntu> is there a wirelss/WiFi connection log i can review to see if there is an error?
[03:01] <boss_mc> Jimmio: or install simple-ccsm and use custom desktop effects, rather than the two defaults
[03:01] <usr13> goanUbuntu: iwconfig
[03:01] <geirha> Jimmio, boss_mc: metacity --replace &   # WITHOUT sudo
[03:01] <linux101> hey can someone help me out?
[03:01] <boss_mc> geirha: ah yes... it's been a while since I toyed with compiz....
[03:02] <usr13> linux101: Only if you ask a question.
[03:02] <boss_mc> geirha: thanks
[03:02] <goanUbuntu> got it usr13
[03:02] <goanUbuntu> next?
[03:02] <usr13> goanUbuntu: No log, just to see what is configured now.
[03:02] <linux101> i installed ubuntu 5.1, its the only install cd i have, im trying to install adobe flashplayer
[03:02] <goanUbuntu> i see
[03:03] <usr13> goanUbuntu: or not configured. as the case may be.
[03:03] <linux101> i have read the forums and documentation but i keep getting an error
[03:03] <Godel-Paradox> how can i make the dd command to work?
[03:03] <Godel-Paradox> to make an iso from cd
[03:03] <goanUbuntu> k
[03:03] <goanUbuntu> 1 sec plz
[03:03] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: isofs
[03:03] <Godel-Paradox> dd i mean
[03:03] <linux101> any1 wanna help me :P
[03:03] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: mkisofs sorry...
[03:03] <scunizi> linux101: 5.1?  don't think so .. even if it was numbered that it's so old as to be unusable.
[03:04] <mrroboto> ctmjr: It worked!  *Thrusts the pelvic thrust of the gods*  Thanks for the direction =)
[03:04] <boss_mc> usr13: 5.1 reached it's EOL, you should try to find a supported version (8.04+)
[03:04] <Godel-Paradox> not mkisofs is
[03:04] <Godel-Paradox> for hdd files
[03:04] <ctmjr> mrroboto_: your welcome
[03:04] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/username/cd.iso
[03:04] <geirha> Godel-Paradox: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/image.iso
[03:04] <scunizi> linux101: can you download the latest or the LTS version and burn it?
[03:04] <mobi-sheep> Oh my!  I just ran XChat with a clean directory.  The default theme is really ugly. ;<
[03:05] <goanUbuntu> here is what i see:
[03:05] <goanUbuntu> wlan0     IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:""             Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.467 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated              Tx-Power=20 dBm              Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr=2352 B              Power Management:off           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[03:05] <usr13> Godel-Paradox: where /dev/hdc is your cdrom and /home/username is your home dir and cd.iso is the desired name you wanna use.
[03:05] <linux101> i cant burn anything because i cant install any burning software for my dvd drive
[03:05] <boss_mc> linux101: can you boot off usb (and have a 1Gb+ USB pen)?
[03:05] <linux101> can i mount the isos and install from a partition on my harddrive?
[03:05] <linux101> i have a 512mb usb
[03:05] <linux101> :(
[03:05] <scunizi> linux101: why can't you install any burning software?
[03:06] <jorgerosa> linux101:  maybe here: http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/faqs/distronotes/ubuntu-x86.html#flash-install-macromedia
[03:06] <linux101> because if i try to install anything it just gives me package does not exist
[03:06] <coleys> linux101: sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <linux101> i did that coley
[03:06] <scunizi> linux101: AH.. because you installed the older version of ubuntu?
[03:06] <linux101> i update repositories
[03:06] <linux101> yes
[03:06] <coleys> linux101: What version?
[03:06] <boss_mc> linux101: you can play games with unetbootin to turn a partition into an installer, boot into that, install into a seperate partition then delete the installer partition
[03:06] <linux101> 5.1 really old its the only cd i had
[03:07] <linux101> boss that sounds really difficult :( im a newb
[03:07] <boss_mc> linux101: or use debootstrap (but that might well not work from your early version of ubuntu_
[03:07] <boss_mc> linux101: fair
[03:07] <coleys> boss_mc:Is the unetbootin for ubuntu any good?
[03:07] <boss_mc> coleys: fine, no problems with it
[03:07] <jorgerosa> linux101:  checked that link?
[03:07] <earthmeLon> I want to add an entry to grub that will allow me to boot Ubuntu Desktop without gui (pretty much make it run like the server version would).  Any suggestions on where to start?
[03:07] <boss_mc> coleys: what's it like for windows nowadays?
[03:07] <abdiz> what
[03:07] <usr13> boss_mc: What?  (was that for me?
[03:08] <scunizi> linux101: you can always order a free cd or visit a friend that has a burner and capacity to download the iso
[03:08] <linux101> no jorge, im trying to install a new copy of ubuntu
[03:08] <jorgerosa> ok
[03:08] <whois> Hi guys
[03:08] <coleys> boss_mc: I havn't actually ever used it, was hoping it was a good version for ubuntu =P Cause thats the only way ill try it.
[03:08] <whois> I ahve a linksys wireless-b usb network adapter
[03:08] <boss_mc> usr13: no...
[03:08] <scunizi> linux101: you may also find a magazine with an ubuntu cd in it
[03:08] <boss_mc> coleys: yeah, it's very useful!
[03:08] <scunizi> linux101: where are you at in the world?
[03:08] <coleys> boss_mc: Yeah and i've heard very fast aswell... =D
[03:08] <whois> Its the gui is not showing up so that I can connect to wireless
[03:08] <linux101> Toronto
[03:09] <BornRebel> Is there a shockwave player for ubuntu?
[03:09] <scunizi> linux101: you should have a user's group up there you could get a copy from.. hang on I'll check
[03:09] <usr13> whois: iwconfig
[03:09] <whois> does any know the softaware I need to enable and run my V
[03:09] <boss_mc> BornRebel: nope, nor will there probably ever be...
[03:09] <usr13> whois: run your "V"?
[03:09] <vid_> I just upgraded to the newest mythbuntu and lost audio support systemwide.  What should I look for?
[03:09] <BornRebel> boss_mc: why will there never be?
[03:10] <whois> I was trying to paste
[03:10] <linux101> jorge
[03:10] <linux101> sudo apt-get install libflash-mozplugin
[03:10] <coleys> vid_: Search your audio card in google + ubuntu =)
[03:10] <odinsban2> If I press my wireless button it doesn't turn the wireless on and off, so I need to use a script and sudo.  Is there a way to change the permissions for that?
[03:10] <coleys> vid_: lspci | grep -i audio
[03:10] <linux101> E: Couldn't find package libflash-mozplugin
[03:10] <linux101> jorge
[03:10] <DarkMage26> whois: you don't have the wireless icon on the bar?
[03:10] <boss_mc> BornRebel: they've been 'working on it' for 8 years with no output, and they're trying to phase it out in favour of flash
[03:10] <odinsban2> I mean, maybe the button doesn't work because of permissions
[03:10] <whois> iwlinksys wireless-b usb network adapter
[03:10] <vid_> ack, some kind of onboard soundcard.  I'll take a look, thanks
[03:10] <jerknextdoor> any help with getting 8.10 to recognize a pcmcia card?
[03:10] <whois> I have a desktop
[03:10] <Godel-Paradox> how can i use the dd command?
[03:10] <Godel-Paradox> i have error
[03:10] <boss_mc> BornRebel: so they have very little incentive to work on it, only very few sites still use it
[03:10] <whois> I want to swith from thernet to wireless
[03:11] <usr13> odinsban2: You can just do ifdown
[03:11] <coleys> vid_: Yeah, just run that command it will tell you which card you have.
[03:11] <whois> ethernet*
[03:11] <danbhfive> whois: did you use ndiswrapper, or is it supported natively?
[03:11] <ctmjr> whois: there is no support for linksys usb wireless cards in linux you need to use ndiswrapper
[03:11] <whois> I just plugged the linksys wireless-b usb network adapter
[03:11] <whois> but its not whowing up
[03:11] <BornRebel> boss_mc: so what r my options for viewing shockwave stuff? wine + firefox?
[03:11] <cyberworm20> hello everyone
[03:11] <whois> showing*
[03:11] <boss_mc> BornRebel: unfortunately that seems to be the case
[03:11] <mibbit> hi
[03:11] <scunizi> linux101: check this link out and make contact http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=333459
[03:12] <mibbit> can someone help me connect a pptp vpn?
[03:12] <mibbit> can someone help me connect a pptp vpn?
[03:12] <boss_mc> BornRebel: I havn't even seen a decent attempt at an open source replacement
[03:12] <mibbit> using 9.10
[03:12] <lomez> hey jambarama could you be a little more specific?
[03:12] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:12] <usr13> !pptp | mibbit
[03:12] <lomez> vid_, could you be a little more specific?
[03:12] <cyberworm20> anyone using bactrack 4 here?
 !pptp | mibbit
[03:13] <mibbit> what's that
[03:13] <linux101> is there any other options? can i mount ubuntu isos and installed them from my harddrive from a virtual drive?
[03:13] <usr13> mibbit: Sorry, I don't know anything about pptp
[03:13] <coleys> linux101: Whats your issue, why can't you boot from disc?
[03:14]  * zerozerozero hello i want to install and configure alsa on ubuntu server so far i have done the following sudo apt-get install alsa
[03:14] <boss_mc> linux101: you got 2 HDs?
[03:14] <PATPAT> Hey why can't i creat a new account ?
[03:14] <coleys> alsa on ubuntu server ? =p
[03:14] <boss_mc> !alsa | zerozerozero
[03:14] <usr13> zerozerozero: alsaconf
[03:14] <linux101> no just 1, im sure i can mount iso and install from my harddrive i used to do that for windows
[03:14] <coleys> PATPAT: sudo useradd username ... then to change its password... username passwd
[03:14] <scunizi> linux101: someone mentioned that "unetbootin" can be used from a partition like you just mentioned.. however you may have to read a lot to figure out how that works
[03:15] <PATPAT> oh ok
[03:15] <boss_mc> linux101: unfortunately not because you'll have to repartition the drive your on which can't be done while it's active
[03:15] <coleys> linux101: You can also load a flash drive with unetbootin aswell.
[03:15] <jim____> coleys: wtf?  PATPAT sudo adduser username; passwd username
[03:15] <boss_mc> coleys: he's only got a 512Mb on...
[03:15] <scunizi> coleys: he's installed the only copy of ubuntu he has ... 5.1 and can't get to repos to download a burner for a more recent version.  also doesn't have a largge enough usb stick
[03:15] <tensai_> On a fresh Ubuntu 9.04 install the update manager was running and computer froze. Restarted, now on boot it says it gave up waiting for the root device and drops to a shell.
[03:15] <koshari> linux101 you can in a virtual machine,
[03:16] <tensai_> I broke it so reinstall?
[03:16] <jim____> tensai_: mdadm raid by chance?
[03:16] <danbhfive> linux101: http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html    you can sorta follow that.  But, instead of using grub for dos, I think you can enter the commands directly from grub since you already have grub installed
[03:16] <linux101> im confused
[03:16] <coleys> jim____: Lawl, my bad= )
[03:16] <tensai_> nope nothing fancy - putting ubuntu on my 2yo's new comp (ancient box from the garage) so she can play fisher price games online
[03:16] <tensai_> only thing I installed was flash
[03:17] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:17] <jim____> coleys: useradd's valid too, but not as friendly as adduser IMO.
[03:17] <lbs> who installed HP 1020 Printer under Ubuntu?
[03:17] <Travis-42> Is there an alternative program similar to soundconverter?  It locks up on me
[03:17] <coleys> jim____: Yeah, i completely agree =o... getting late =P
[03:17] <PATPAT> I mean why can't I add user from administrative menu
[03:17] <boss_mc> linux101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux look at method 1
[03:17] <coleys> PATPAT: You should be able too..
[03:18] <PATPAT> its grayed out
[03:18] <scunizi> PATPAT: hit the "unlock" button
[03:18] <PATPAT> its so weird
[03:18] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:18] <coleys> PATPAT: Is there unlock?
[03:18] <PATPAT> what unlock button
[03:18] <tensai_> there were several 'usplash: setting mode [random resolution] failed' messages as well
[03:18] <doink12123> i am using pcsx for the first time, and i dont understand what the control configurations are for the keyboard, the menu isnt clear at all
[03:18] <chaorain_> help? http://www.pasteall.org/6411
[03:18] <PATPAT> No there isnt
[03:18] <scunizi> linux101: do you have a windows machine?
[03:18] <JDShewey> DarkMage26: you need to give some hardware details: what type of PC, mobo, etc
[03:18] <coleys> PATPAT: Any non greyed out buttons?
[03:18] <PATPAT> Theres user and groups
[03:19] <danbhfive> linux101: here are the actual instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[03:19] <DarkMage26> JDShewey: I don't know the details of the machine cuz I don't know where to look for it.
[03:19] <boss_mc> linux101: the debootstrap way is nice, but probably wont work with your version unfortunately
[03:19] <PATPAT> it say click Administrator mode button to allow modification but theres none
[03:19] <coleys> PATPAT: Reopen the window?
[03:19] <majnoon> !ot |majnoon
[03:19] <linux101> nah i changed my only windows machine to linux i have a laptop with vista but the screen is broken
[03:19] <koshari> linux101 seriousely though with how easy unetbootin is you would be silly to use any other methood
[03:19] <PATPAT> let me try
[03:19] <gggg> hello,is it possible to login with the same yahoo account in pidgin of different machine?
[03:20] <doink12123> What are the default keyboard controls for PCSX?
[03:20] <linux101> but boss said it wont work
[03:20] <JDShewey> DarkMage: is this a laptop, desktop? HP? Dell? Whitebox?
[03:20] <boss_mc> koshari: he's not got a big enough USB
[03:20] <koshari> linux101 it will work but its a long winded way
[03:20] <boss_mc> linux101: did you get my link?
[03:20] <linux101> yea i got everyones link :P
[03:20] <DarkMage26> JDShewey: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:21] <linux101> any1 want to vnc into my linux and fix it :P
[03:21] <koshari> boss_mc well looks like he may need to shell out ten bucks then
[03:21] <boss_mc> koshari: or beg a copy off someone
[03:21] <kain> hi all, i was wondering if anyone knows how to upgrade firefox 3.0.11 to firefox 3.5?
[03:21] <boss_mc> night all!
[03:21] <gggg> hello,is it possible to login with the same yahoo account in pidgin of different machine?
[03:21] <linux101> night
[03:21] <boss_mc> kain: sudo aptitude install firefox-3.5
[03:22] <linux101> no1 wants to vnc and fix it for me :(
[03:22] <kain> boss_mc: will it uninstall my old version?
[03:22] <koshari> linux101 you could even use a removable usb hdd
[03:22] <doink12123> gggg: i dont know why not
[03:22] <boss_mc> kain: not that I'm aware of, i think it does a update-alternatives thing
[03:22] <linux101> i dont have 1 would 512mb usb stick be enough?
[03:22] <gggg> doink12123, so it's possible to login with the same account in different pc?
[03:23] <kain> boss_mc: ok, cause i went into synaptics manager and installed firefox-3.5 but it was a beta, not the official version that just came out
[03:23] <doink12123> gggg: it should be possible. Ive always used pidgin on multiple computers at once
[03:23] <gggg> doink12123, ok, is it possible for aMSN and emense, too?
[03:23] <linux_trojan> I have been trying to view TV on Ubuntu using Mythbuntu, Freevo, and other stuff, there has to be an easier way, something without all the configuration, something just plug and play?
[03:24] <danbhfive> linux_trojan: hulu.com?
[03:24] <doink12123> gggg: i dont see emense as a login option, but MSN is there
[03:24] <scunizi> linux_trojan: using a tuner card?
[03:24] <linux101> koshari in the meantime is there any video players i can install to watch videos?
[03:24] <linux101> i cant watch anything
[03:24] <linux_trojan> yea happauge
[03:25] <gggg> doink12123, ok thanks
[03:25] <koshari> linux101 vlc, mplayer, totem,
[03:25] <linux_trojan> I will try Hulu.com see what they got
[03:25] <linux101> i tried totem but it just gives me errors
[03:25] <linux101> and i dont really know how to install mplayer
[03:25] <koshari> linux101 you more likely will want the codecs
[03:25] <coleys> linux101, Try smplayer =)
[03:25] <scunizi> linux_trojan: #mythbuntu for configuation support.. there's also xbmc as an alternative from mythbuntu
[03:25] <cyberworm20> r root?
[03:25] <linux101> how do i install the codecs?
[03:26] <linux101> because on totem it gives me codecs error
[03:26] <cyberworm20> how do i change the password for root
[03:26] <coleys> !codecs
[03:26] <koshari> linux101 sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:26] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:26] <linux_trojan> #mythbuntu is a graveyard, they are barely alive to answer questions
[03:26] <danbhfive> linux101: I thought you couldn't install anything at all?
[03:26] <scunizi> linux101: you don't without functional repositories..
[03:27] <linux101> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:27] <linux101> i just get errors when i try to install
[03:27] <coleys> linux101, I believe you are not supported anymore. You'll need a more recent version of ubuntu.
[03:28] <scunizi> linux101: the oldest repository available is for version 6.06
[03:28] <linux101> explains y i cant install a thing
[03:28] <koshari> linux101 what version are you usung?
[03:28] <linux101> argh im starting to hate this
[03:28] <linux101> 5.1
[03:28] <linux_trojan> I am looking at your recommendations, bbl, thanks
[03:28] <scunizi> coleys: could linux101 change the repo references in synaptic and then just update?
[03:29] <doink12123> My keyboard does work with the PCSX emulator? How do i fix this?
[03:29] <coleys> scunizi, No, don't think so.
[03:29] <koshari> linux101 thats 4 years old!
[03:29] <linux101> its the only operating system cd i have
[03:29] <coleys> Updates are sketchy anyways...
[03:29] <koshari> linux101 is there any reason you cannot up grade?
[03:29] <doink12123> linux101: you cannot burn a new one?
[03:29] <coleys> koshari: Hes way past LTS. =P
[03:29] <scunizi> linux101: either order the cd, contact the local loco in your area, attempt the netboot install link given earlier
[03:29] <coleys> koshari: So the servers are allllll dead.
[03:30] <linux101> i have a blank dvd r but i cant install burning software
[03:30] <koshari> coleys?
[03:30] <koshari>  linux101 use netbootin
[03:30] <coleys> linux101: http://getdeb.net
[03:30] <linux101> sunizi the netboot install will work?
[03:30] <purpzey> If I upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty will it effect my home directory and application settings?
[03:30] <koshari> linux101 unetbootin
[03:30] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:31] <koshari> purpzey noty if you back them up
[03:31] <coleys> linux101: See if you can find burning software at http://getdeb.net
[03:31] <linux101> coley it wont let me install it will say package not found
[03:31] <scunizi> linux101: you have nothing to loose.  give it a try
[03:31] <linux101> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[03:31] <linux101> is this unetboot
[03:31] <koshari> coleys you dont need burning software with netbootin
[03:31] <koshari> unetbootin
[03:31] <coleys> Tell him that =P
[03:31] <danbhfive> linux101: no, its not, but give it a try anyway.  Its a net install
[03:32] <koshari> linux101 use a usb drive
[03:32] <Hilikus> i installed i don't remember what to be able to play flash in FF, for all of them i get a play icon (the triangle) but most of them don't work after clicking them. some do though. any idea what's the problem?
[03:32] <linux101> i only have a 512mb
[03:32] <koshari> linux101 get another one,
[03:32] <koshari> there cheap
[03:32] <koshari> 10 dolalrs
[03:33] <linux101> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[03:33] <linux101> im gonna try this
[03:33] <coleys>  koshari What if he wants installed now... =)
[03:33] <linux101> ahh even this netboot is to difficult for me
[03:33] <koshari> he could use unetbootin and get the minimal iso which is 15meg and do the rest over the net, but it will be test installer and very slow
[03:34] <linux101> FU WINDOWS
[03:34] <koshari> linux101 unetbootin is simple,
[03:34] <linux101> these commands and directories are cnfusing me
[03:34] <koshari> linux101 and unetbootin runs on windows or linux
[03:35] <linux101> link?
[03:35] <koshari> linux101 http://www.h33t.com/details.php?id=0af99609353a41eb92e9261acbcff0e7b4ab2af2
[03:35] <danbhfive> linux101: the other option is: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/   it will take awhile, but it will be an easier learning curve :)
[03:35] <koshari> linux101 sorry wrong link
[03:35] <koshari> linux101 http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[03:36] <linux_trojan> it looks like xbmc is not for actually watching tv, but for viewing media?
[03:36] <mase_work> linux101: also your local newsagent/ magazine store probably has a computer magazine with ubuntu included on it
[03:36] <koshari> linux_trojan correct,
[03:36] <dragon_> !enter | koshari
[03:37] <linux_trojan> the game is all locked up
[03:37] <thesandman>  can anyone explain to me what x-session mangager is and how to disable it?
[03:37] <koshari> dragon it was the wrong link yu clown
[03:37] <linux101> unetbootin will download the isos as well?
[03:37] <scunizi> thesandman: are you trying to install a video driver and following instruction?
[03:37] <mase_work> linux101: yes it can do that for you
[03:37] <koshari> linux101 no you download the iso you want to place on your key
[03:38] <mase_work> koshari: no, the new versions do this for you
[03:38] <mase_work> well they can do this for you
[03:38] <Mr_Sonoma> has anyone tried Jaunty with a Verision 720 aircard? how successful were you?
[03:38] <scunizi> koshari: his key isn't large enough.. he needs to use unetbootin on a seperate partition
[03:38] <linux101> i downloaded unetbootin and it wont open the file...
[03:39] <dragon_> Mr_Sonoma: you might want to check the documentation, if there's anything mentioned about your card
[03:39] <dragon_> !wifi | Mr_Sonoma
[03:39] <koshari> scunizi he can use the minimul iso and install text mode ,
[03:39] <Mr_Sonoma> thanks
[03:39] <scunizi> koshari: ah! I forgot about that..
[03:39] <DarkMage26> I can't get my system to complete the shut down process. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d22f649f
[03:39] <PATPAT> Why can't I do sudo su?
[03:39] <dragon_> PATPAT: it's a bad practice.
[03:39] <danbhfive> PATPAT: sudo -i
[03:39] <scunizi> PATPAT: ubuntu doesn't support it..
[03:39] <koshari> scunizi although i still beleive hes better off getting another usb key
[03:40] <PATPAT> yes it does
[03:40] <scunizi> koshari: me too .. or contacting the local lug or loco
[03:40] <linux101> when i try to open it it says cannot display unetbootin
[03:40] <Mr_Sonoma> is your root account disabled?
[03:40] <linux101> what am i suppose to do?
[03:40] <papna> Is it possible to make a popup in another user's graphical environment? A Gnome equivalent of write?
[03:40] <PATPAT> why can't i do this sudo look PS3 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:40] <roxie> i am running ubuntu netbook remix and when i went to youtube to play a video this is what is says "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. " what should i do? im new to ubuntu
[03:40] <leaf-sheep> !flash | roxie
[03:41] <dragon_> PATPAT: you need to add the user to the group "admin"
[03:41] <PATPAT> Oh alright
[03:41] <PATPAT> thank you
[03:41] <dragon_> PATPAT: usermod -aG admin PS3
[03:41] <PATPAT> one more question
[03:42] <PATPAT> when i log on into my account why does this stupid thing ask me for a pass key?
[03:42] <PATPAT> usermod admin does not exist it say
[03:42] <danbhfive> PATPAT: its because your passwords are encrypted, I believe
[03:42] <roxie> the "click here to install flash" doesnt work
[03:42] <linux101> can some1 help me with unetbootin
[03:42] <PATPAT> ok so what does it what me to do
[03:43] <PATPAT> ok so all i have to do is add it to admin group then i can do sudo su right
[03:43] <koshari> linux101 what do you want to know
[03:43] <Dulak> PATPAT: sudo -i
[03:43] <PATPAT> yea
[03:43] <linux101> i downloaded it and now i am trying to run the unetbootin file
[03:43] <dsdeiz> i always get this error message in pwsafe "WARNING: pwsafe unable to use secure ram (need to be setuid root)".. any ideas?
[03:43] <linux101> but im egtting an error
[03:43] <dragon_> DarkMage26: you have encountered a kernel bug. You should check if there's a related bug report, and if not, file one.
[03:43] <PATPAT> they are doing sudo su everwhere
[03:43] <koshari> linux101 what is the error
[03:44] <linux101> Failed to run /home/test/Desktop/unetbootin-linux-356 'rootcheck=no':
[03:44] <linux101>  Wrong password.
[03:44] <dragon_> DarkMage26: note the line that says: Jul  1 19:20:29 holly-desktop kernel: [ 1218.283173] kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.28/arch/x86/mm/pat.c:298!
[03:44] <dragon_> !enter | linux101
[03:44] <PATPAT> !penis
[03:44] <linux101> sorry
[03:44] <thesandman> scunizi: no I was trying to install some apps to work with k3b and brasero to burn and copy dvd's but that was like way before I formatted my system....and the x-session manager is still here for some reason...does anyone know what it is?
[03:44] <PATPAT> !penis
[03:44] <koshari> linux101 are you running it as sudo?
[03:44] <dragon_> !ops | PATPAT
[03:45] <DarkMage26> dragon_: what should I look for in the bug reports?
[03:45] <scunizi> !X | thesandman
[03:45] <elky> PATPAT, are you planning to contribute anything valuable to this discussion at all?
[03:45] <linux101> im double clicking to open and type the password but it just gives me the same error i am not using terminal
[03:45] <dragon_> DarkMage26: a situation similar to yours. By the way, are you running on a customized kernel?
[03:46] <PATPAT> Yes...possibly in the near future.........
[03:46] <thesandman> thanks ubot!!!!!!!!!....LOL....
[03:46] <linux101> koshari can u please help me out
[03:46] <scunizi> thesandman: to kill the x session in gnome type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop.. in kde use sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[03:46] <DarkMage26> dragon_: how do I know. This is a fresh install from live cd with all the newest updates.
[03:46] <elky> PATPAT, good, well if you can abstain from the pointless and immature nonsense until that time, it'd be appreciated
[03:47] <dragon_> DarkMage26: then it's not customized.
[03:47] <PATPAT> yes sir
[03:47] <elky> !guidelines > PATPAT
[03:48] <dragon_> DarkMage26: the best thing to do is to file a bug, and copy that trace there. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[03:48] <mobi-sheep> What's the best way to run VLC although I have no Xorg?  I don't mind installing Xorg but no GDM and such?  Something that would run VLC under X.
[03:49] <linux101> any1 please help me with unetbootin
[03:49] <dragon_> mobi-sheep: xfce?
[03:49] <scunizi> mobi-sheep: you could ssh -X <yada yada> to connect and have access to x related programs
[03:50] <mobi-sheep> scunizi: Uh.  I tried ssh and I ended up getting movie run in ascii mode.
[03:50] <mobi-sheep> scunizi: Not just ssh.  I ran that on the machine "vlc video.avi"
[03:50] <yoga> any indomesian people?
[03:50] <scunizi> mobi-sheep: movie in ascii mode is always interesting..
[03:50] <dragon_> !ot > yoga
[03:51] <draginx> anyone know how to get skype working on 64 bit with ubuntu 8.04? my sound isnt working with skype
...Thank you so kindly
[03:51] <dragon_> !skype | draginx
[03:51] <draginx> !Ekiga
[03:53]  * dragon_ drops a pin
[03:53] <linux101> mtools not found. This is required for USB Drive install mode.
[03:53] <linux101> Install the "mtools" package or your distribution's equivalent.
[03:53] <linux101> what do i do now?
[03:54] <dragon_> !find mtools
[03:54] <dragon_> !info mtools
[03:54] <dragon_> linux101: is this what you're looking for?
.....cans you re-give me those commands again please?
[03:54] <gogeta> msdos lol
[03:55] <gogeta> can you say old school
[03:55] <linux101> i dont know im trying to get unetbootin to work
[03:55]  * zerozerozero i am trying to install alsa on ubuntu server here is my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file http://pastebin.com/f614f3cfe. and my lspci -v | less output http://pastebin.com/f7a195c2.i noticed that in alsa-base.conf file the soundcard module is not present (i am planing to use te yamaha soundcard) so i want to add this line "options snd-card-ymfpci model=3stack" (there are 4 jacks on the soundcard).will this enable audio ???
[03:55] <dragon_> linux101: sudo apt-get install mtools
[03:55] <scunizi> thesandman: hang on and I'll give you a more complete link
[03:55] <gogeta> linux101: apt-get install unetbootin
[03:56] <gogeta> linux101: the one from the site has a dep issue for some reasion
...ok that's find too but I want those commands that you gave out earlier...for some reason I cant scroll up and get them the page has been deleted
[03:56] <draginx> dragon_, im getting Audio Playback errors =/
[03:56] <baz> i am trying to setup nfs on my client (server is already set up) do I need to apt-get nfs-common? Anything else to apt-get?
[03:57] <gogeta> linux101: have your usb device aruldy mounted and start unetbootin all should go well
[03:57] <linux101> i cant install mtools
[03:57] <samorai> hello!
[03:57] <scunizi> thesandman: ssh -X <yada yada> is what I gave you.. here's a link http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=ssh+x11+forwarding+ubuntu&aq=f&oq=ssh+x11+forwarding&aqi=&aq=f&oq=&aqi=&fp=kE0CVI1PqvM
[03:57] <dragon_> draginx: i've seen those. hold on.
[03:57] <linux101> gogeta i am doing a frugal install from harddrive
[03:57] <samorai> some wone can help me to install chat on my own serveur
[03:58] <gogeta> linux101: you mean a wubi?
[03:58] <dragon_> samorai: what kind of chat?
[03:58] <koshari> dragon hes running 5.10 with no repos
...that's not what you gave me earlier....as far as commands...they were gnome and kde x-session commands to remove the x-manager
[03:58] <linux101> and i cant install a thing so im out of luck
[03:58] <dragon_> koshari: what do you mean?
[03:58] <gogeta> linux101: oh easy make a iinstall partation have unetbooting install there
[03:59] <samorai> dragon_ it's flash chat
[03:59] <koshari> dragon he cannot install anything from the repos as they are no more for 5.10
[03:59] <linux101> i cant just make a partition
[03:59] <dragon_> koshari: who are you talking about?
[03:59] <linux101> MEEEEEEEE
[03:59] <gogeta> linux101: you just said you wanna do hs to hd install
[03:59] <gogeta> hd
[03:59] <linux101> yes
[03:59] <koshari> gogeta i beleive he cannot install unetbootin as he misses a dependency by the looks of it
[03:59] <geirha> !nfs | baz
[03:59] <koshari> dragon linux101
[04:00] <gogeta> koshari: get it from apt-get\\
[04:00] <gogeta> linux101: get unetbooting from apt-get
[04:00] <koshari> gogeta there are no 5.10 repos
[04:00] <samorai> dragon_  ?
[04:01] <linux101> what koshari said
[04:01] <dragon_> yeah samorai?
[04:01] <gogeta> koshari: lol
[04:01] <gogeta> 5,10 jeez
[04:01] <pnema> Use to be able to use the mouse whell to switch between windows but now I cannot. How do I fix?  (FYI: I just upgrade to Jaunty)
[04:01] <scunizi> gogeta: he has unetbootin .. apt-get doesn't work for him because the repos are so old they don't exist anymore
[04:01] <Apollo2366> Hey guys, recently downloaded emerald theme manager, and I'm watching a video on how to use it. Thing is, I was told to run emerald --replace and it worked, but when I closed the terminal, instead of the theme going back to human-clearlooks, it got rid of all window borders. No title bar, no buttons, no nothing. Help?
[04:01] <dragon_> linux101: time to upgrade?
[04:01] <gogeta> linux101: option to use grub to boot the iso directly
[04:01] <linux101> dragon thats what im tryong to do
[04:01] <root> hello everyone.  I'm having a weird problem
[04:01] <scunizi> Apollo2366: try emerald --replace &
[04:01] <coler> how do i deal with "ou do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server
[04:01] <dragon_> Apollo2366: emerald --replace &
[04:02] <MrJay> Hi
[04:02] <linux101> gogeta i wouldnt know how to do that
[04:02] <gogeta> linux101: dont you have a spare cdr
[04:02] <koshari> gogeta he has no burning software
[04:02] <dragon_> coler: use a terminal to type "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[04:02] <linux101> a blank cd? yes but no burning software
[04:02] <dragon_> !terminal | coler
[04:02] <linux101> and respos to download burning software
[04:02] <SeaPhor> if you log in as root, then you really do have a problem, but prolly not the one you came here for...
[04:03] <gogeta> linux101: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774539
[04:03] <Apollo2366> That got the border back, not human clearlooks though. Plus whenever I close the terminal, it repeats the problem
[04:03] <gogeta> bootting iso w grub
[04:03] <MrJay> can someone answer a question for me
[04:03] <dragon_> linux101: where do you live?
[04:03] <pnema> How does one configure the mouse wheel to switch between virtual windows?
[04:03] <geirha> Apollo2366: And don't close the terminal with the X button. Type "logout" or hit Ctrl+d to close it
[04:03] <dragon_> linux101: i feel like mailing you a CD
[04:03] <gogeta> linux101: just dont format the drive installing from
[04:03] <koshari> linux101 out of interest what are the specs of your machine?
[04:03] <draginx> dragon_, any continuation..? :P
[04:04] <gogeta> linux101: yea ubuntu mailes free cds
[04:04] <geirha> Apollo2366: Make that "exit", not "logout"
[04:04] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> hello guys.... being a debian user since a while and now a jaunty user, i have a query. how does ubuntu handles the package suggestions in a terminal? i.e. when a package is not installed , it suggests to install it using apt-get.... is there a specific package for such behaviour ?
[04:04] <linux101> its a core2duo like 2gb ram  and some crappy hdd
[04:04] <dragon_> draginx: running skype now
[04:04] <linux101> i guess its back to windows for me
[04:05] <koshari> linux101 why dont you use unetbootin in windows?
[04:05] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> if neone could clear my query, would be informative
[04:05] <scunizi> linux101: if you go to windows you can burn a cd of ubuntu
[04:05] <pnema> How does one configure the mouse wheel to switch between virtual windows?
[04:05] <coler> i keep getting You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server
[04:05] <dragon_> draginx: skype wouldn't run on my machine. there was a setting under hardware section in skype i guess. tried playing with those?
[04:05] <Apollo2366> Mkay, the window border is persistent now, but how do I switch control back and forth between Emerald and the default themer?
[04:05] <coler> i already ran it in terminal
[04:05] <linux101> im gonna buy windows 7 i dont have any windows cd if i buy 7 i dont plan to go back for a while
[04:05] <linux101> plus windows 7 is like $50 for preorder
[04:05] <jeffs> how do I use 3d desktop switcher?
[04:05] <draginx> dragon_, the sound things? yeah man
[04:05] <dragon_> linux101: i hate you.
[04:06] <koshari> linux101 buy a 1gb usb stick instead
[04:06] <pnema> coler: I was advise to rm the xorg.conf file and it worked for me
[04:06] <scunizi> linux101: as an upgrade only.. you have to already have an install cd to use it
[04:06] <geirha> Apollo2366: gtk-window-decorator --replace &
[04:06] <linux101> ill figure it out :P dont hate me i tried ubuntu atleast
[04:06] <linux101> :(
[04:06] <linux101> later bye
[04:06] <coler> what is x server, (said to restart x server)
[04:06] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[04:06] <dragon_> linux101: good luck.
[04:07] <Apollo2366> geirha, Cool, thanks :)
[04:07] <scunizi> coler: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart in a terminal
[04:07] <dragon_> draginx: not sure what's the exact cause. maybe try searching the forums, and google.
[04:07] <samorai> I check someone how can help me to install flash chat
[04:07]  * dragon_ gotta go. later peeps
[04:07] <draginx> dragon_, already doing :) thanks mate
[04:07] <leaf-sheep> mobi-sheep:
[04:07] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> can anyone clear out my query above? : (
[04:07] <pnema> coler: what hardware are you using?
[04:08] <dragon_> sh4d3sl4y3r_: it's a feature called command-not-found
[04:08] <Tjh_> hi i have installed language-pack-gnome-sa and language-pack-sa-base, where do i change language to sa?
[04:08] <dragon_> info command-not-found | sh4d3sl4y3r_
[04:08] <wabob> date
[04:08] <sh4d3sl4y3r_> ok thanks man
[04:08] <wabob> %date
[04:08] <wabob> $date
[04:09] <dragon_> !flood | wabob
[04:09] <Shwaiil> Q: I want to start using ubuntu (I have no experience with any linux distro); I want to get a manual, to help me learn it, but I dont have enough money for current books. So, how  diferent is Ubuntu 6.06LTS compared with newer versions? Will the book help me ? (Actually, I'm probably going to install that old version of ubuntu). Tks for your time!
[04:09] <wabob> !flood
[04:09] <wabob> !date
[04:09] <dragon_> !botabuse > wabob
[04:09] <Tjh_> hi i have installed language-pack-gnome-sa and language-pack-sa-base, where do i change language to sa?
[04:09] <dragon_> Tjh_: right before you login
[04:10] <scunizi> Shwaiil: you can download a pdf for free.  http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html
[04:10] <Tjh_> umm there is no sa in the menu HELP
[04:10] <scunizi> Shwaiil: if you install anything then install version 8.04
[04:11] <geirha> Tjh_: Try installing the language packs with System -> Administration -> Language support
[04:12] <zerozerozero> where can i find modules.conf file?>
[04:12] <Tjh_> geirha: i dont have that option in my menu
[04:12] <Shwaiil> scunizi, thanks for your help! I really like to read books, in spare times, train, you know. So, an older book is like $3 bucks! So, its better to get something newer, like 8.04, right ? I supose is not a good idea to get the book for 6. something.
[04:13] <samorai> bye
[04:14] <Tjh_> geirha: he;llo? i managed to get the entry,   however sanskrit is not one of the languages listed
[04:14] <scunizi> Shwaiil: they are *very* similar.. small differences.. however version 6.06 isn't supported anymore.. ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months and occationally a LTS version like 6.06 or 8.04.. LTS = Long Term support
[04:14] <Tjh_> help
[04:14] <Tjh_> i have the sanskrit gnome base
[04:14] <Tjh_> but i have no way of enabling it
[04:15] <Shwaiil> scunizi, I supose just for the first 4 months, just to learn it, is ok. What do you think ? Newer books, is like $30 + shipping :P
[04:16] <Tjh_> anyone?
[04:16] <scunizi> Shwaiil: for $3 it's worth it.. makes a good reference..
[04:17] <Shwaiil> scunizi, Thanks for your help! I'm going buy it, keep for 4 months, when I'm done, I'll get up to current version, and start reading the newest, freely, available documentation online :)
[04:17] <short__error> does any one know how to go about installing the TSP Codec?
[04:17] <mazda01> anyone able to connect jailbroken iphone to ubuntu?
[04:18] <mazda01> for tethering internet purposes?
[04:18] <scunizi> Shwaiil: the best thing is to jump right in and learn while you do.. you can do that in windows using Virtualbox or ubuntu's provided wubi installer.. later you can install to an older machine or dual boot your current machine
[04:19] <Jimmio> Hello all, sorry to not specifically be on the topic of Ubuntu, but what does anyone of you here do to get motivated to complete something?
[04:20] <geirha> Tjh_: Hm, have you tried asking in the indian channel?
[04:20] <scunizi> Jimmio: motivation is an emotional response.. sometimes you just have to "do it" with no motovation..
[04:20] <Tjh_> geirha: wqhich is whaat?
[04:20] <Tjh_> geirha: where is the indian channel?
[04:20] <geirha> !in > Tjh_
[04:21] <Tjh_> o thx
[04:21] <Jimmio> scunizi: I'd love to do that... But I am in the position of "Why bother? It's not like anyone will want to use it..". This happens a lot when I'm writing software... I have to find something motivational.
[04:22] <jeffs> I have a M-audio Quattro usb sound card, which works well in ubuntu, but when I use it with jack, the sound is choppy and staticy. I tried fooling around with the jack settings, but no luck.
[04:22] <scunizi> Jimmio: If you can't do it for self satisfaction then you're doomed.. move on to something else
[04:22] <jeffs> I think that I may need a firmware update or something, or mabe I should disable the bios sound? any one?
[04:24] <mazda01> anyone use iphone to tether internet over bluetooth?
[04:25] <Tjh_> hmm that channel seems to be emtpty,, anyone?
[04:25] <Guest14623> does this channel offer ubuntu server suppport
[04:25] <scunizi> Guest14623: sometimes.. also #ubuntu-server..
[04:25] <root> hello
[04:26] <Tjh_> Guest89349: do not log in as root, log out create user and log back in as regular user...its for your own safety
[04:26] <Guest89349> ok
[04:26] <Tjh_> :p
[04:27] <mazda01> no one uses bluetooth?
[04:27] <Jimmio> !ask | mazda01
[04:28] <Jimmio> mazda01: What I meant was, ask your question, not if anyone uses bluetooth, unless that IS your only question
[04:28] <Tjh_> can someone please help me use the package
[04:28] <Tjh_> why is it there if no one knows how to make it do anything?
[04:28] <mazda01> can't seem to connect iphone to my hardy heron computer for tethering purposes. I am getting a connection refused error/
[04:29] <mazda01> I am using blueman from ppa repo for blue-utils.
[04:30] <wuqwhu> where can I ask questions about vpns in ubuntu
[04:31] <wuqwhu> where can I ask questions about vpns in ubuntu
[04:33] <Guest14623> i am pulling out my hair on this issue i am having . Please please can somone take a look and tell me what they think http://paste.ubuntu.com/207882/
[04:33] <shane2peru> I have a serious problem with my network settings on jaunty, how can I purge them and completely install them like the beginning?  I really hate the new jaunty network system
[04:33] <Apollo2366> Anyone know how to change the color of the text in the top and bottom panels?
[04:34] <Dulak> shane2peru: install wicd and laugh at all the suckers using network manager
[04:34] <shane2peru> is there any gui tool to work with network settings?
[04:34] <wuqwhu> #velug
[04:35] <shane2peru> Dulak: it seems as though they did away with network manager
[04:35] <Hilikus> how do i remove the packages that were installed as dependencies of a package taht i'm removing?? synaptic is leaving the dependencies installed
[04:35] <shane2peru> Dulak: it used to be nice, now it is a nightmere
[04:35] <Jimmio> Hilikus: sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:35] <shane2peru> is wicd easy, or is it going to hose my system?
[04:35] <shane2peru> Dulak: ^^^
[04:36] <risent> is there anyone who use gnome-do?
[04:36] <Jimmio> Hilikus: BE CAREFUL THOUGH. I've seen it comepletely uninstall ubuntu before. if you see Ubuntu-desktop as a package to be removed, DO NOT RUN IT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.
[04:36] <Dulak> shane2peru: well I haven't used anything but wicd in over a year now, it's superior to the way they were doing it
[04:36] <Hilikus> Jimmio: i'll try that, but i don't think it'll work
[04:37] <shane2peru> Dulak: at this point I would try anything, thanks for the tip, installing now.
[04:37] <Ghoti_> Morning, folks..  quick question- what's the best short-list of packages to remove in order to (somewhat) sanely remove X, GNOME, and all the associated things that depend upon them?
[04:37] <Jimmio> Hilikus: I never install via Aptitude when I can avoid it. It works perfectly normally, and after that run sudo apt-get autoclean to remove extra kernel data that's no longer needed
[04:37] <trollaxor> ubuntu rox!!!
[04:37] <shane2peru> Dulak: will this auto-replace my current messed up network manager?
[04:37] <Dulak> shane2peru: I believe it will uninstall it
[04:38] <Dulak> shane2peru: been over a year since I did it, I don't quite remember
[04:38] <xmedex> hello all
[04:38] <xmedex> i have a question here
[04:38] <edbian> Ghoti_: Remove "ubuntu-desktop"  then auto-remove everything else.  (Or use aptitude)
[04:38] <shane2peru> Dulak: it just dumped my applet, and seemingly disconnected me, but here I am. :)
[04:38] <edbian> xmedex: What might it be?
[04:38] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: I think you can't because Ubuntu-Desktop depends on it. That means everything gets uninstalled and it no longer boots.
[04:39] <shane2peru> Dulak: how do I edit wicd, or get into it?
[04:39] <xmedex> any details how to setup multiple ubuntu server
[04:39] <Dulak> shane2peru: Applications->Internet
[04:39] <Ghoti_> Jimmio, edbian: to confirm, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && apt-get autoremove, yes?
[04:39] <edbian> xmedex: What do you mean?  Please be more specific
[04:39] <shane2peru> Dulak: ahh, there it is, thanks
[04:39] <Ghoti_> Jimmio, edbian: I still want to be able to boot to a console, of course
[04:39] <xmedex> multiple server setup for thin client
[04:39] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Your system won't be usable anymore.
[04:39] <edbian> Ghoti_That will remove X, and Gnome.
[04:39] <edbian> Jimmio: I
[04:40] <Ghoti_> o.O
[04:40] <Dulak> shane2peru: the best part is, once you have everything setup, it will do the network config before login, so you get network before you are even logged in
[04:40] <shane2peru> Dulak: cool even got my dns stuff again
[04:40] <xmedex> any details how to???
[04:40] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Don't run that... It will also remove the linux kernel. I'm 99% sure of it.
[04:40] <edbian> Jimmio: Are you sure?  I'm pretty sure that you can still boot to a console without X / Gnome / Ubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <trollaxor> why is ubuntu so slow on my DP machine
[04:40] <trollaxor> i even overclocked it
[04:40] <Jimmio> edbian, Ghoti_: Hold on, let me see
[04:40] <shane2peru> Dulak: I think in hardy or intrepid it was simple and usable, either intrepid or juanty made a mess out of it, and took away the gui tools to fix things
[04:40] <edbian> Jimmio: I think you might be right
[04:41] <dsdeiz> some people in ##linux easily get ticked off
[04:41] <abe3k> guys, just so you should know, to move a group of buttons on the ubuntu panels just shift+middle drag them and make sure none of them are locked :D:D:D
[04:41]  * Ghoti_ does an apt-get --simulate
[04:41] <Dulak> shane2peru: I never liked that I didn't get network until after login, that's why I originally switched
[04:41] <xmedex> please somebody help me on how to setup & config for multiple server setup
[04:41] <edbian> Ghoti_: Try simply "aptitude remove gnome" ??
[04:41] <derenrich_> so...ff3.5 in ubuntu. Is it going to be a thing in the repos or am i going to install from source
[04:41] <shane2peru> Dulak: I guess that didn't matter to me so much, just to be able to tinker and configure stuff was what I was lookng for.
[04:41] <xmedex> im doing thin client on ubuntu
[04:41] <Dulak> !ff35 | derenrich
[04:42] <edbian> xmedex: What is a multiple server setup?  What do you want these servers to do?
[04:42] <shane2peru> Dulak: thanks for the tip on wicd, hopefully that will fix my issue, very easy and straight forward to use
[04:42] <edbian> xmedex: Are you talking about pxe booting?
[04:42] <Dulak> shane2peru: np
[04:42] <Jimmio> edbian, Ghoti_: It removes everything, and I think that would screw everything up too.
[04:42] <xmedex> edbian: instead of running one server, i want to have 5 server
[04:42] <abe3k> is Plymouth really going to ship with ubuntu 8.10 ?
[04:43] <edbian> xmedex: 5 servers to do what?  Web servers, email servers, file servers, print servers?  What?
[04:43] <xmedex> edbian: thin client server
[04:43] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Maybe try autoremoving ubuntu-desktop and installing ubuntu-server? I think it would work. THINK. Not my responsibility if it breaks...
[04:43] <Ghoti_> edbian: if I remove GNOME, that will leave X behind.. I have a (more or less) headless server, and I'd just as soon remove the GUI entirely if at all possible
[04:43] <edbian> xmedex: What exactly would a "thin client" server do?  pxe boot?
[04:43] <xmedex> edbian: combine that 5 server to be 1 server for thin client
[04:43] <Dulak> Jimmio: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, removing it only removes that single package, not everything installed by the package
[04:44] <xmedex> edbian: yes pxe boot over lan network
[04:44] <edbian> Ghoti_: Then "sudo aptitude remove X.org and Gnome?"  (admittedly I'm guessing now :D)
[04:44] <Ghoti_> edbian, Jimmio: do you think that apt-get install ubuntu-server ubuntu-desktop- would do the trick?
[04:44] <Jimmio> Dulak: Yes, unless you run autoremove, it'll remove everything, because it's not needed by anything.
[04:44] <edbian> xmedex: Before you said you want to create 5 servers.  Now you said you want to combine the 5 to make 1.  You're confusing me.  Why do you need more than 1 to pxe boot anyway?
[04:45] <Dulak> Jimmio: my bad missed the autoremove
[04:45] <xmedex> edbian: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/multiple-server-setup.html
[04:45] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: Honestly, I'd say leave the GUI there, just turn it off. Keeps things from breaking.
[04:45] <xmedex> edbian: take a look at there
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Jimmio: there is still ubuntu-minimal
[04:45] <edbian> xmedex: Ok, hang on while I read.
[04:45] <xmedex> edbian: i just want a better explanations on it
[04:46] <xmedex> edbian: alright dude
[04:47] <gogeta> Jimmio: ubuntu mini iso does a base net install
[04:47] <Jordan_U> Ghoti_: running "sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove" should still leave you with a working minimal system
[04:47] <joker> is there a way to force X to resize the screen? (nvidia tv-out has a bug since... forever and they arent fixing it appaently so I have 1 inche all around the tv where I dont see the screen = n otask bar, no menu, etc...)
[04:47] <ytoox> hello, I have installed banshee and tangerine music share but other people on the network see my laptop but can't access the folder Im sharing
[04:47] <edbian> xmedex: Well I think the point they're making is some-what obvious & trivial but.  Here's what I get from this.  Having 1 server pxe boot every computer in your network can be slow / hard on the server if your network is large.  In this even create multiple pxe servers!  (Well duh
[04:47] <ytoox> can you help me?
[04:47] <edbian> )
[04:47] <nadine> I can't get sound from my logitech usb headset in ubuntu 9.04, it's worked in every other version of ubuntu...
[04:47] <gogeta> !ask | ytoox
[04:47] <Ghoti_> Jordan_U, edbian, Jimmio: Thanks! I'll test it in a VM before I lobotomize my server with it first, but sounds good at first glance.  Thanks again!
[04:48] <ytoox> ubottu: fine thanks
[04:48] <ytoox> ubottu: are you going to answer or rant about rules?
[04:48] <edbian> xmedex: Simply split up your computers into logical groups (according to IP) and make 1 pxe server for each group of ip addresses (computers).  Do you have a more specific question?
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Ghoti_: np
[04:48] <edbian> Ghoti_: Always like to help :)
[04:48] <Ghoti_> as do I :)
[04:48] <Jimmio> Ghoti_: No problem. My server is a laptop and runs GDM constantly fyi, works fine.
[04:48] <edbian> ytoox: ubottu is a robot you know
[04:49] <ytoox> good
[04:49] <forces> how can I install firefox 3 in jaunty?
[04:49] <shane2peru> ytoox:  what is the question?
[04:49] <forces> firefox 3.5
[04:49] <gogeta> !ff25
[04:50] <forces> !firefox3.5
[04:50] <gogeta> !ff35
[04:50] <shane2peru> forces: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:50] <forces> I dont want beta
[04:50] <forces> I want the final
[04:50] <scunizi> then wait
[04:50] <edbian> forces: It doesn't exist yet for linux :)
[04:50] <forces> it was released yesterday
[04:50] <Ghoti_> forces: I think it's the beta package for the final release
[04:50] <forces> maybe tomorrow?
[04:50] <Pici> forces: its not packaged for ubuntu yet.
[04:50] <edbian> forces: It was released yesterday for windows
[04:50] <nadine> I can't get sound from my logitech usb headset in ubuntu 9.04, it's worked in every other version of ubuntu
[04:51] <forces> when will be ready for linux?
[04:51] <gogeta> forces: when its done
[04:51] <Pici> forces: After its done being tested, just like the factoid says.
[04:51] <pedestrianentran> using the mv command, how can i move ONLY directories, not files?
[04:51] <forces> ok, I have another pc with hardy
[04:51] <forces> how can I install flash 10 in hardy?
[04:51] <scunizi> pedestrianentran: so you don't want the files in the directories to move?
[04:52] <gogeta> pedestrianentran: mv -d
[04:52] <forces> and openoffice if its possible
[04:52] <ytoox>  I installed banshee and tangerine music sharing with it, but no one on the network can access my music
[04:52] <edbian> forces: Right to the point aren't we?  Do you know what the repos are??
[04:52] <pedestrianentran> gogeta: thanks! i cant beleive its that easy...
[04:52] <forces> hardy repos come with flash 9
[04:52] <Ghoti_> pedestrianentran: for a in /path/to/source/*; do [ -d $a ] && mv $a /path/to/destination/; done
[04:52] <nadine> so nobody knows anytyhing abut sound?
[04:52] <forces> and openoffice 2.4
[04:52] <edbian> forces: Then I'm assuming you can install open-office.
[04:52] <Ghoti_> gogeta: mv -d would be easier, I suppose :)
[04:53] <forces> sorry
[04:53] <nadine> I've tried pulse and alsa and no joy
[04:53] <forces> I want openoffice 3
[04:53] <forces> :P
[04:53] <edbian> forces: Are you sure you want these on hardy?
[04:53] <pedestrianentran> Ghoti: yeah i don't think move -d works though...
[04:53] <edbian> forces: If you simply upgrade to 9.04 you'll have open office 3 and flash 10 will be in your repos.
[04:54] <Hilikus> edbian how do i install flash 10?
[04:54] <edbian> Hilikus: On ubuntu 9.04??
[04:54] <Hilikus> yes
[04:54] <forces> the problem is the graphic card
[04:54] <geirha> pedestrianentran: mv */ /path/to/destination
[04:54] <forces> jaunty has problem with intel graphic card
[04:54] <edbian> Hilikus: open synaptic and search "flash"
[04:54] <pedestrianentran> geirha: outstanding
[04:54] <Hilikus> edbian:  i installed something to play flash but it sometimes doesn't work in some videos so i'm assuming its because those are flash 10
[04:54] <forces> and hardy is more stable
[04:55] <edbian> Hilikus: You are using the open source flash player (only works on some sites).  Do you have synaptic open / searched?
[04:55] <Jordan_U> forces: What problem were you having with intel and jaunty? The main crashing bug ( which also meant that compiz was disabled ) has been fixed in updates
[04:55] <edbian> forces:  Check out backporting.  It allows you to get packages from repos that are newer than your current ubuntu version's repos.
[04:55] <Hilikus> edbian i'll search for flash
[04:56] <edbian> forces: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:56] <edbian> Hilikus: ok :)  Let me know when you're ready :)
[04:56] <Pici> edbian: Err.. people actually have to package those applications for prior releases, its not an automatic process.
[04:56] <gogeta> Hilikus: flash 10 is in ubuntu
[04:57] <Hilikus> edbian: flashplguin-installer?
[04:57] <edbian> Pici: Really?  I never backported so I assumed.
[04:57] <gogeta> Hilikus: flash-nonfree
[04:57] <edbian> Hilikus: First purge all of the flash related packages you have installed.  If you have more than one they block each other out when you go to a site.
[04:57] <Hilikus> gogeta: This package is a transitional package that can safely be removed after you installed
[04:57] <Hilikus> flashplugin-installer.
[04:57] <forces> flash in hardy backports doesn't work
[04:58] <forces> the package is lost
[04:58] <gogeta> Hilikus: its fine
[04:58] <nellmathew> forces: another option is to add ubuntu-tweak to your repos (search google) and it'll add support for quickly adding third-party sources to your repos.. (openoffice 3.1, latest firefox (even 4.0 dev), ect..)
[04:58] <forces> or was remove
[04:58] <edbian> Hilikus: Did you so what I wrote??
[04:58] <Hilikus> edbian: i don't remember which ones, how can i search for that?
[04:58] <forces> ok i'll check that
[04:58] <forces> thanks
[04:58] <edbian> Hilikus: All of the ones that are green boxes are installed.  You can sort them by green / not-green.
[04:58] <Dragster2006> hey everybody
[04:58] <edbian> Hilikus: Am I making sense?
[04:58] <wuqwhu> where can I ask a vpn pptp question?
[04:59] <lopeze> Hey, one of my installation hung at Install/Select software on the Heron alternate install. I continued with my installation. Is there anyway to install the software through the command line that comes up from boot?
[04:59] <Hilikus> edbian: libswfdec-0.8-0 and swfdec-mozilla
[04:59] <nellmathew> lopeze, is it at 6%?
[04:59] <Hilikus> edbian:  so i remove those?
[04:59] <lopeze> Yeah.
[04:59] <edbian> Hilikus: That's the open source one :).  Yeah remove them
[04:59] <edbian> Hilikus: If you search "flash" none of the files that come up should be installed :)
[05:00] <edbian> Hilikus: Once it is in that state then install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:00] <Jordan_U> lopeze: Yes, did you want a desktop install or server install?
[05:00] <Hilikus> edbian: k, i'll do that
[05:00] <lopeze> Desktop Install.
[05:00] <nellmathew> lopeze, the problem is 1) you either burned at a high speed, so try the lowest 8x or something.. or 2) your cd-rom just isn't that great, which was the problem i had. try lowering the burn speed and come back here, PM me if i don't respond.
[05:00] <edbian> Hilikus: :)  Flash is a little counter-intuitive that way.  I think it is a problem.  Hopefully they fix it down the line.
[05:00] <lopeze> Alright sounds good.
[05:00] <lopeze> Thanks I"ll try that out.
[05:01] <Jordan_U> lopeze: "sudo dpkg --configure -a" then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" should do the trick
[05:01] <Hilikus> edbian: just out of curiosity, the description seems to imply flashplugin-installer superseeded flashplugin-nonfree
[05:01] <Hilikus> is that not true?
[05:01] <nellmathew> lopeze, do you have broadband?
[05:01] <lopeze> Yes I do.
[05:02] <edbian> Hilikus: I don't know.  Like I said all of those packages are sort of a mess right now.  All I know is that you need "flashplugin-nonfree"  That is adobe flash 10 for sure.
[05:02] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: The name of the package was simply changed, flashplugin-nonfree was the old name, flashplugin-installer is the new name.
[05:02] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: so it doesn't matter which one i use
[05:03] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: Exacltly
[05:03] <Hilikus> thanks
[05:03] <edbian> Hilikus: Jordan_U: That's news to me but probably true :)
[05:04] <xmedex> edbian: i dont understand
[05:04] <cxo> I think i asked this before, but i forgot, how do you find the package information from a particular file in the system? the equivalent of rpm -qf
[05:04] <jerknextdoor> any help with getting a modem to work in 8.10
[05:04] <nellmathew> lopeze: what i eventually ended up doing (because i tried lowest speed, and no matter what my cd-rom would hang retrieving one package or the other - at 6%, before extracting it) is trying the minimal iso: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD - when you boot it up type in "cli" and go through the same installation process as you would with alternate (use an ethernet connection, not wifi) and after it's done and you 
[05:04] <xmedex> edbian: what do you mean by split
[05:04] <Jordan_U> cxo: dpkg -S /path/to/file
[05:04] <edbian> xmedex: Do you have a pxe server set up now?
[05:04] <cxo> S! i tried F
[05:05] <edbian> Hilikus: Let me know if you get it working! :)
[05:05] <xmedex> edbian: yes
[05:05] <edbian> xmedex: One of the configurations is to tell the server what IP's to send the kernel image out to correct?
[05:05] <xmedex> edbian: then
[05:06] <cxo> Jordan_U, thanks, is there a way of getting more information about that package, than just the name?
[05:06] <edbian> xmedex: Just tell each server to send the image out to 1/5 of the ip addresses.  Understand?  That way the five of them cover the entire network just like the single old one did.
[05:06] <cxo> i tried -S -I together, but it didnt like that
[05:07] <Jordan_U> cxo: apt-cache show package-name
[05:07] <xmedex> edbian: i understand but how to?
[05:07] <edbian> xmedex: 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.51 for server one.  192.168.0.52 - 192.168.0.104
[05:07] <edbian> for server 2
[05:08] <Hilikus> it worked!! thanks a lot edbian
[05:08] <edbian> Hilikus: NP!
[05:08] <Jordan_U> cxo: I don't think there is a built in way to do both at once, it would be trivial to script though
[05:08] <edbian> Hilikus: You should have more faith in us :)
[05:08] <xmedex> edbian: i can see it
[05:09] <edbian> xmedex: I probably am not the best person to ask.  I have never set up anything like this before.  Perhaps pose the question to everybody else?
[05:09] <egasus> i want to ask
[05:09] <egasus> a quick question. sudo pecl install memcache
[05:09] <jerknextdoor> any help with getting a modem to work in 8.10?
[05:09] <egasus> it says pecl isnt found
[05:09] <egasus> what can i do?
[05:09] <xmedex> edbian: thanks for your help
[05:09] <xmedex> edbian: ok
[05:09] <edbian> xmedex: sorry I couldn't help more :(
[05:09] <xmedex> edbian: np
[05:09] <edbian> egasus: What is pecl?  What are you trying to do?
[05:10] <egasus> i dont know
[05:10] <egasus> http://interfacelab.com/nginx-php-fpm-apc-awesome/
[05:10] <egasus> have a look there
[05:11] <edbian> egasus: lmao.  I have never seen anyone say they "don't know" what they're trying to do :)  You made my day there :)
[05:11] <cxo> Jordan_U, I switch to ubuntu after using fedora/redhat for over 10yrs. The brain just refuses to remember any dpkg/apt commands
[05:11] <edbian> egasus: Also if you're addressing me directly start with my name like I do to you so that I notice what you're saying easier.  Thanks :)
[05:11] <egasus> :) i mean
[05:11] <egasus> i am following the steps there
[05:12] <egasus> ok edbian
[05:12] <egasus> edbian: ok
[05:12] <egasus> :)
[05:12] <didi> Is it possible to login as a different user with the gnome-terminal without using ssh?
[05:12] <edbian> egasus: You're tying to make a PHP enabled web server?
[05:12] <egasus> yes with ncix
[05:12] <egasus> edbian: and i am going to eat the nuts
[05:12] <Jordan_U> didi: su ?
[05:13] <didi> Jordan_U: Don't know. I will try.
[05:13] <edbian> egasus: lol
[05:13] <egasus> edbian: would it be problem if i only use "sudo install memcache  " instead of "sudo pecl install memcache"
[05:13] <unop> didi,  sudo
[05:13] <nadine> logitech usb headset made for the PS2 no sound on reformat install of 9.04
[05:13] <Jordan_U> didi: "su username" is the command to change users
[05:13] <didi> Jordan_U: Really cool. Thanks.
[05:13] <edbian> egasus: Ok, look at my PM
[05:13] <egasus> nope not working
[05:14] <egasus> roger that
[05:15] <mazda01> i am getting a connection refused when trying to connect to my iphone over bluetooth. what am I doing wrong?
[05:15] <didi> Another one: I am trying to mount a NFS filesystem (wuala) but the directory keeps been mounted to user and group root. I can mount it as a normal user but the owner is handed to root. How can I make the mount directory being owned by the user that mounted it?
[05:15] <cxo> How do I apt-get upgrade just one file?
[05:16] <SandGorgon> !ff35
[05:16] <juan_> hello everyone
[05:16] <juan_> I have a question
[05:16] <Adola> Do I have to install samba to get 2 ubuntu machines to share files?
[05:16] <didi> Here is the line at the fstab: localhost:/wuala /home/user/wuala/direct nfs defaults,users,noauto,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr
[05:16] <Jordan_U> cxo: You mean one package? I don't think there is a supported way to upgrade one file
[05:16] <SandGorgon> !nfs | Adola
[05:16] <cxo> Adola, No. Samba is only used in conjunction with Windows shares
[05:17] <cxo> Jordan_U, single package, not one file
[05:17] <Apollo2366> !ask | juan_
[05:17] <Jordan_U> cxo: apt-get install ( it also upgrades if there is a newer version available )
[05:17] <cxo> ok
[05:18] <Houba1986> hey, i was wondering, is anyone else experiencing slow flash playback full screen through firefox with ubuntu 9.04? and if so, is there a fix for this?
[05:18] <juan_> I am running a dual startup machine with kUBUNTU and WindowsXP, when I was in Windows, someone on the Messenger attacked my system
[05:18] <Adola> Well, the reason I ask is because I've got _This_ machine on dial-up, and I got a netbook recently, I can't connect to dial-up with the netbook, how do I network the netbook and this machine?  (Both are ubuntu)
[05:18] <juan_> and he telled me that he knew that I had also Linux
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Houba1986: browse youtube with totem instead of the browser :)
[05:19] <Houba1986> Jordan_U: does it work with other sites as well? or only youtube?
[05:19] <juan_> Should I have to be affraid of any leak in my Kubuntu system?
[05:20] <cxo> juan_, its very very unlikely someone who compromised your windows while in windows, could access the data in the linux partition
[05:20] <cxo> juan_, but wherever there is a will, there is a way
[05:20] <Rob235> i dont know what to install next
[05:20] <Omarman> Any word yet on firefox 3.5 getting rolled out officially on Ubuntu Netbook Remix Jaunty?
[05:21] <legend2440> cxo: i'm not familiar with rpm -qf. but are you asking for a way to find out which package contains a certain file?
[05:21] <Dulak> !ff35 | Omarman
[05:21] <Jordan_U> Houba1986: Only youtube and BBC, you can also often play the flash video with totem by looking for the temporary file flash creates ( /tmp/Flash* )and dailymotion will support playing videos without flash with Firefox 3.5. As for fixing flash itself, I don't know :)
[05:21] <Rob235> 3.5 doesnt seem any different to me, except a bit faster i guess
[05:21] <Rob235> whats supposed to be good about it
[05:22] <joebodo> eclipse does not seem to accept the max memory setting in the ini ... am i doing something wrong ?
[05:22] <Houba1986> Jordan_U: so it's not just my computer that's experiencing this problem?
[05:22] <Dulak> Rob235: javascript is a lot faster in 3.5 than it was in 3.0, plus html 5 support
[05:22] <Rob235> i see
[05:22] <cxo> legend2440, i got it, it was dpkg -S and apt-cache show
[05:22] <legend2440> cxo: ok
[05:23] <juan_> cxo, thanks, when i started linux there was an error "io.slave cannot run ... " or something like that, i ran the update mannager and the error is gone
[05:24] <Rob235> with AWN how do you make it so you can open more than 1 of the same program, i see when you load a program and the icons are different then you can open as many as you want, any other way?
[05:24] <chetnick> guys, how can i change default runlevel, in other linux distro i edit /etc/inittab, but in Ubuntu there seems to be no /etc/inittab file. Can somebody help me?
[05:24] <Omarman> Thanks.. I'll try to install the beta
[05:24] <mheath> This is kind of an odd question, but does anyone know if there is ever a time when / is mounted RW, but the rest of the fstab isn't mounted yet?
[05:25] <mheath> OR does startup remount / from RO to RW at about the same time that everything else is mounted?
[05:25] <mazda01> i can't get my iphone to connect via bluetooth. any suggestions on what to use?
[05:25] <juan_> can someone sniff in my computer while I am using linux?
[05:25] <bp0> how can i set up ubuntu so that when i plug in a usb headset it uses that for sound, but when it is unplugged it will use the sound card
[05:25] <edbian> mheath: I think I read somewhere that / is never mounted RW (that generally causes massive corruption :D )
[05:25] <Rob235> a mac
[05:25] <Rob235> jk
[05:25] <chetnick> juan_: yes
[05:25] <mazda01> bp0, yes, if you're aren't behind a firewall or router
[05:26] <edbian> juan_: Yes but if you are up to date there are no security holes.
[05:26] <mneptok> chetnick: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[05:26] <mazda01> bp0, sorry, mean to write that to juan_
[05:26] <unop> chetnick , on ubuntu (and debian) - runlevels 2-5 are all identical, so why do you need to change the default?
[05:26] <juan_> chetnick, what can I do to be protected?
[05:26] <mazda01> juan_,, yes, if you're aren't behind a firewall or router
[05:26] <mheath> edbian: that doesn't make sense. If that was true, you could never save a file or install anything, if you had a one partition arrangement.
[05:26] <edoceo> If I have an existing Ubuntu machine that's running the 32bit SMP how hard is it to upgrade-in-place to 64bit?
[05:26] <chetnick> edbian: if somebody penetrated his network he dont need any holes in OS. they can sniff traffic and  do MITM attack.
[05:26] <edoceo> Just add the 64bit kernel and then update all packages?
[05:27] <chetnick> juan_: protect your network (specially WiFi)
[05:27] <edbian> chetnick: I never knew that! Thank you :)
[05:27] <geirha> mheath: It's mounted read-only at an early stage, then mounted rw along with the rest of fstab
[05:27] <rnd_null> Sorry to interrupt...Quick question:  Where is the file that is written by the "Keyboard Shortcuts" app in Ubuntu?
[05:27] <chetnick> unop: i need no GUI, i want to boot to runlevel 3.
[05:28] <juan_> I am new in this and I'm not sure to have a firewall, I thought that Ubuntu had one, isn't it?
[05:28] <mheath> geirha: so its remounted at *exactly* the same time as the rest of fstab is mounted? (I know its odd I care so much, but I'm attempting something where this actually matters quite a bit)
[05:28] <chetnick> unop: i guess that was my question, how do i do that ?
[05:28] <unop> chetnick, runlevel 3 is exactly the same as runlevel 2 (ubuntu's default)
[05:28] <edbian> mheath: o that's when errors are found.  Hence the fstab option: "errors=remount-ro"
[05:28] <unop> chetnick, if you don't want a gui .. disable the GDM service
[05:28] <unop> !boot | chetnick
[05:29] <juan_> chetnick; where can I have all the tips to protect my machine?
[05:29] <chetnick> unop: isnt the runlevel 5 the same as ubuntus default?
[05:29] <unop> chetnick, no, that's with redhat, etc .. with debian.etc - runlevel 2 is the default
[05:29] <chetnick> mneptok: thanks i will check that out.
[05:30] <Omarman> Firefox 3.5 shows up as Shiretoku?
[05:30] <chetnick> unop: yes its default but not the same as runlevel 3 on most of the linux distros.
[05:31] <edbian> chetnick: I too would like an answer to juan_'s question.  Where can I find a good tutorial for tips on securing my machine?
[05:31] <chetnick> thanks everybody, will look into disabling GDM service, or upstart doc.
[05:31] <unop> chetnick, why would I tell you something that's not true :)  - go have a look for yourself, you'll see /etc/rc2.d/* match up with /etc/rc3.d/* etc
[05:31] <edoceo> How do I change my install from i686 to x86_64 ? just update sources.list?
[05:32] <chetnick> edbian: uh let me check some good web sites for that.
[05:32] <rnd_null> Anyone want to help me out with a keyboard shortcut problem?
[05:32] <edbian> chetnick: If you're just gonna google I can do that.  You don't need to waste your time on me :D
[05:32] <mneptok> edoceo: hardly. the easiest and most pain-free way is to re-install. less likely to suffer breakage.
[05:33] <edoceo> shit
[05:33] <Omarman> Ok.. I have Shiretoko installed.. And yes, It's what firefox 3.5 shows up as on Linux. I love that the stable firefox stays installed as well.. WTG!
[05:33] <cxo> rnd_null, i'll give it a shot
[05:33] <chetnick> juan_: edbian You can start from here, http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/wireless_secure.htm
[05:33] <Jordan_U> edoceo: You can re-use your /home among other things
[05:33] <juan_> chetnick, thank you
[05:34] <heroe_01> que tal chivita
[05:34] <chetnick> yeah, just google it and you will find plenty info.
[05:34] <Omarman> When ff3.5 final gets pushed up to repository, will it uninstall 3.0?
[05:34] <chetnick> np, anytime.
[05:34] <edoceo> yea - my vendor deployed with wrong version, now I have to start almost-all-over -
[05:34] <rnd_null> cxo: ok, i've defined a keyboard shortcut with the gnome app for that...then I updated...now it does not work and will no work...so- how to I access the file for that and edit myself to fix it?
[05:34] <edbian> chetnick: Thanks :)
[05:34] <heroe_01> chivita? eestas ahi?
[05:34] <lstarnes> Omarman: I don't think so.  It will likely be a separate package
[05:35] <rnd_null> cxo: sorry- bad grammar
[05:35] <cxo> rnd_null, the app for setting shortcuts stopped working?
[05:35] <Omarman> lstarnes, thanks.. I can do the uninstall myself when 3.5 becomes official
[05:35] <Jordan_U> edoceo: Is there any specific reason why you don't want to re-install? ( there may be a way to get the same effect you want without "upgrading" in place )
[05:35] <denbei> What is the recommended way to manage bandwidth? I've heard HTB, TCNG. But the tutorials I found seems too old. Is there any better way?
[05:35] <rnd_null> cxo: nope, all my shortcuts still work *except* for the one that opens my web browser
[05:36] <cxo> rnd_null, And it worked before the update?
[05:36] <edoceo> Jordan_U: does the server install wipe out what's already there?  If not I can install on-top-of and keep my configs (in /etc and /var/www and other odd places)
[05:36] <rnd_null> cxo: i've redefined it a couple of times and it still won't work...i was hoping that someone would be able to tell me where the file is that has the shortcut definitions...yes, it worked before the update
[05:37] <geirha> mheath: It's done a little bit sooner, in /etc/init.d/checkroot
[05:37] <rnd_null> cxo: it hasn't worked for over a year now...i just haven't gotten around to messing with it until now
[05:38] <cxo> rnd_null, Ok, give me a minute, i think i know where the file is, but i think the problem might be due to a change in X server or driver
[05:38] <bpZero> bah, i was using opera for chat and it crashed, and now it wont start again, so i use xchat now
[05:38] <bpZero> so, anyone have an answer to the usb headset question
[05:38] <bpZero> ?
[05:38] <bpZero> I was bp0 before...
[05:38] <edoceo> Where does Ubuntu keep the arch setting?
[05:39] <edoceo> How does it know to get i686 or to get x86_64 packages?
[05:40] <rnd_null> bpZero: maybe this will help... http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/how-i-got-my-usb-headset-to-work/
[05:41] <Adola> I made a shared folder on one of my ubuntu machines, how can I view it on the other?
[05:41] <Adola> (I went to "network" and nothing is there)
[05:42] <bullgard4> After 8.04.2 dist-upgrade to 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[05:42] <PS3> guys
[05:42] <ubuntuser> hey I have to press enter at the ubuntu login screen should I be concerned about a possible keylogger?
[05:42] <Wzcocoon> Hi guys
[05:42] <psycovic> is there an easy way to install the 2.6.29 kernel?
[05:42] <PS3> im trying to install a theme and one of the setting require me to creat a new folder
[05:42] <PS3> in tiles
[05:43] <PS3> how can i do this?
[05:43] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Did you upgrade to 8.10 then 8.04 ( skipping is not supported exept LTS to LTS )
[05:43] <PS3> it doesnt let me
[05:43] <ubuntuser> like when I have my password in and press enter I have to press it again before it logs in
[05:43] <FloodBot3> PS3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:43] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Yes sir.
[05:43] <bpZero> rnd_null, when i type in the first line it tells me it is going to remove ubuntu_desktop... don't i need that?
[05:43] <cxo> rnd_null, hmm i think its being set by gconf these days, i'm not sure where the file is, but one way to check if the problem is driver related is to manual capture the key and see if that works, check out, showkey and setkeycode
[05:44] <rnd_null> cxo:  I'm a dummy...sorry for the bother...i just found my gconf editor for metacity...
[05:44] <Wzcocoon> Like most of the guys here I have a problem I just upgraded from 8.4 to 9.4 but for some raison now all of my windows have no more buttons on the top right corner so I have to use alt f4 to close them any ides why and how to fix that? thanks
[05:45] <PS3> how do i create a folder in user share?
[05:45] <cxo> Wzcocoon, were you using an ati card?
[05:45] <PS3> i keep getting access denied
[05:45] <cxo> PS3, sudo mkdir /usr/share/blah
[05:45] <geirha> Wzcocoon: Does it help if you hit Alt+F2 and run "gtk-window-decorator --replace" ?
[05:45] <Wzcocoon> yes
[05:45] <Jordan_U> Wzcocoon: "metacity --replace" if that fixes it then go to sysetm > preferences > appearance and disable compiz ( "desktop effects" )
[05:45] <PS3> thx
[05:45] <johnnyg> how do I install firefox 3.5 through synaptic?
[05:45] <rnd_null> bpZero:  I'm not sure...I was just giving you somewhere to start...what brand/model of headset is it?
[05:46] <legend2440> psycovic: http://www.ramoonus.nl/2009/03/24/linux-kernel-2629-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-and-debian-linux/
[05:46] <Wzcocoon> will try the gtk
[05:46] <cxo> You guys are cool!
[05:46] <Wzcocoon> and let you know
[05:46] <Omarman> Johnyg, search for firefox-3-5 in synaptec
[05:46] <bpZero> rnd_null, logitech 350 "premium"
[05:47] <Omarman> johnnyg just search in synapeic
[05:47] <bpZero> but i can get it to work, i want to make it automatically switch to it when i plug it in
[05:47] <Wzcocoon> metacity did it thank you guys
[05:47] <johnnyg> Omarman: the most recent I show is firefox 3.1, even after reload
[05:47] <bpZero> and switch away when i unplug it
[05:47] <lopeze> To fix a problem where my Alternate Heron installation would hang at 6% I installed the minimal iso install. Now when I boot I am led to a shell. What do I do to get to the gnome desktop?
[05:47] <PS3> another question how do i paste something into that folder after i make the fold in share
[05:47] <Omarman> johnnyg, search for firefox-3-5
[05:47] <Jordan_U> lopeze: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:48] <rnd_null> bpZero:  what is wrong with it?
[05:48] <johnnyg> Omarman: no luck. Blank result set.
[05:48] <Jordan_U> johnnyg: http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/160-FAQ-Where-can-I-get-firefox-3.5-for-Ubuntu.html
[05:48] <bpZero> nothing, but it will not switch to it when i plug it in, and switch back to sound card when i unplug it
[05:48] <johnnyg> Jordan_U: thanks!
[05:48] <PS3> how do I paste sometimng into a share folder ? it doesn let me
[05:48] <bpZero> every time i must manually change the settings
[05:49] <Omarman> johhnnyg firefox-3.5
[05:49] <Jordan_U> johnnyg: np :)
[05:49] <mobi-sheep> PS3: Make it writeable too.  Not just readable.
[05:49] <thesandman> can someone please tell me what's going on here http://paste.ubuntu.com/207930/
[05:49] <PS3> how do i do that
[05:49] <rnd_null> bpZero: what does dmesg say about it?
[05:49] <mobi-sheep> PS3: I don't know.  I don't use Samba. :)
[05:49] <scunizi> lopeze: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:50] <PS3> thers gonan be a way
[05:50] <lopeze> scunizi + Jordan_U: Trying it now. Will update.
[05:50] <Gunther> is there any way to connect o ubuntu desktop from windows like vnc
[05:50] <Hilikus> i have some files in a samba share and when i access the server directly they are encoded correctly but when i mount it in my other computer some spanish characters are encoded incorrectly. i don't know if it's the samba share or the mount in the end point. any suggestions to fix it?
[05:51] <PS3> some one help me please
[05:51] <Jordan_U> Gunther: Yes, System > Preferences > Remote Desktop ( you can then connect via a vnc client )
[05:51] <PS3> im trying to paste something in a share folder but it wont let me
[05:51] <scunizi> Gunther: tightvnc on windows and activate remote access on ubuntu in System>Preferences>Remote Desktop
[05:51] <Hilikus> ps3 smb?
[05:51] <kilrathi> I'm having some trouble doing a release upgrade from Feisty to Hardy.  Anyone here that can help me out with this?
[05:51] <PS3> i think
[05:52] <lstarnes> !eolupgrade | kilrathi
[05:52] <PS3> i was able to create the folder with sudo
[05:52] <Hilikus> PS3: make sure your smb process has write access in the folder
[05:52] <Gunther> scunizin: i will try that,  thanks
[05:52] <lstarnes> hmm, wrong factoid
[05:52] <PS3> how do i do that
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: Are the server and client both using utf8 for file names?
[05:52] <lstarnes> kilrathi: there's a qay to upgrade to fiesty then to gutsy then to hardy
[05:53] <Hilikus> PS3: what user are you using to mount the share?
[05:53] <PS3> i have no idea
[05:53] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: they are both ubuntu 9.01
[05:53] <lstarnes> kilrathi: but since feisty and hardy are unsupported there's a special process for doing it.  I'll see if I can find the page related to it
[05:53] <PS3> im kinda net
[05:53] <PS3> new
[05:53] <Hilikus> PS3: can you access you remote share at all?
[05:53] <Hilikus> ps3 or this is all local still?
[05:54] <Gunther> how to install jdk5 and netbeans on ubuntu using apt-get
[05:54] <Jordan_U> lstarnes: Hardy is still supported since it's LTS :)
[05:54] <Gunther> can anyone help ?
[05:54] <lstarnes> Jordan_U: but feisty and gutsy aren't
[05:54] <mneptok> !info netbeans
[05:54] <PS3> i think i can only view
[05:54] <PS3> i think i have to switch to root
[05:55] <PS3> brb
[05:55] <lstarnes> kilrathi: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[05:55] <Hilikus> ps3 im not sure what youre doing. did you mount the share already?
[05:55] <PS3> i wait
[05:55] <PS3> 1 sec
[05:55] <PS3> brb
[05:55] <Gunther> ubottu: can you tell me how to install, I'm new to linux and ubuntu
[05:56] <boxjon> the real firefox 3.5 where is it!
[05:56] <lstarnes> !ff35 | boxjon
[05:56] <cazz> in my van, come child!
[05:56] <cazz> lol
[05:56] <bullgard4> After dist-upgrade 8.04.2 > 8.10 > 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[05:56] <kilrathi> lstarnes: checking it out now.. thanks!
[05:56] <boxjon> ok thankies
[05:57]  * scunizi snickers.. ubottu strikes again
[05:58] <scunizi> Gunther: once you get the desktop installed you can use Synaptic package manager to install netbeans
[06:00] <boxjon> its all quiet lol
[06:00] <e0n`> hmm
[06:00] <e0n`> I remember something somewhere about ubuntu server having a cluster utility built in, or was that eucalyptus the cloud computing software
[06:01] <scunizi> me thinks it's the lull before the next release
[06:01] <spvensko> has anyone here successfully run ubuntu on a newer macbook pro? i've heard reports that it and ubuntu have a tendency to kill MBPs due to heat regulation issues and i'm not sure if this is Apple FUD or a legit concern
[06:01] <boxjon> next release?
[06:01] <boxjon> like, karmic/
[06:02] <lstarnes> boxjon: yes
[06:02] <scunizi> boxjon: there's always a next release.. typically just before it's official release there is a lull here.. quiet times
[06:02] <boxjon> wehn is that scheduled to come out
[06:02] <lstarnes> boxjon: october
[06:02] <boxjon> tyvm
[06:02] <Jordan_U> spvensko: I have run it on an older macbook-pro, and since the fans are regulated by the firmware ( though you can manually override it's default settings, I am pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't ) I don't see how it would.
[06:02] <phrontist> how can I check how a HDD is partitioned?
[06:02] <lstarnes> boxjon: it's 9.10 so month 10 of 2009
[06:03] <boxjon> o i c
[06:03] <Giraffe_> has anybody else been getting savage lag spikes from firefox 3?
[06:03] <spvensko> Jordan_U, have any experience running debian on it?
[06:03] <Adola> I can't set any folders to NFS, only samba.  What's wrong with it?
[06:04] <phrontist> in other words, how can I check how many partitions a particular mounted drive has?
[06:04] <phrontist> (and of what type)
[06:04] <Jordan_U> spvensko: Yes, though I havn't used the machine for a while.
[06:04] <Dulak> phrontist: sudo fdisk -l
[06:05] <spvensko> Jordan_U, may I PM you?
[06:05] <SandGorgon> anyone know where is the tarball for FF 3.5 AMD64 ?
[06:05] <mobi-sheep> SandGor
[06:06] <phrontist> so, I want to do a clean reinstall of Ubuntu, but I don't want to lose about 100GB of stuff in my home directory
[06:06] <mobi-sheep> SandGorgon: Not on Mozilla site?
[06:06]  * mobi-sheep will look for you.
[06:06] <phrontist> any way to pull that off, if it's all on the same partition?
[06:06] <SandGorgon> i can only see 32 bit
[06:07] <mobi-sheep> SandGorgon: This? http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.5&os=linux&lang=en-US ?
[06:07] <SandGorgon> crap .. i think 64 bit firefox 3.5 is not gonna happen http://blog.cosmix.org/2009/06/23/we-don%E2%80%99t-have-64-bit-support-for-linux-in-3-5/
[06:07] <scunizi> phrontist: create a partition large enough to accomidate the data and copy it there.. including the hidden directories.. then create 2 new partitions.. 8gigs for / (root) and 1 gig for /swap
[06:07] <boxjon> other then kernel 2.6.30 any improved or new features in Karmic?
[06:07] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: there should be a package available for it
[06:07] <lstarnes> boxjon: ask in #ubuntu+1.  that channel is speficially for karmic
[06:08] <lstarnes> !ff35 | SandGorgon
[06:08] <scunizi> phrontist: then reinstall using the new partitions
[06:08] <boxjon> ok i will
[06:08] <thesandman> Can anyone tell me why I cant use my brasero, and K3B software to copy and burn cd/dvd?
[06:08] <SandGorgon> lstarnes, look at the blog post - 64 bit FF is crippled
[06:08] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: I have had no issues with the PPA builds of it
[06:08] <phrontist> scunizi: I only have 13GB of free space though :-/
[06:09] <scunizi> phrontist: external usb drive?
[06:09] <SandGorgon> lstarnes, neither do i , but apparently the javascript engine is going to be 32 bit only... that's the thing they dont tell u
[06:09] <phrontist> scunizi: well, I have one, and it has the space, but it's FAT32 :-/
[06:09] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: I haven't heard anything about that from mozilla
[06:09] <phrontist> and I have a bunch of files with illegal file names
[06:09] <rargueta> hi, my problem is howto configure my resolucion video
[06:09] <phrontist> characters like "\" and such
[06:09] <scunizi> phrontist: reformat it to ext3 if that's possible
[06:09] <SandGorgon> lstarnes, http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/tracemonkey-demo/#comment-209
[06:09] <lstarnes> SandGorgon: and it would make no sense for thr javascript engine to work only on 32-bit when it can be compiled from source
[06:09] <lstarnes> http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/06/tracemonkey-demo/#comment-209
[06:09] <lstarnes> oops
[06:10] <boxjon> wow its even more quiet over there
[06:10] <scott_nwoktech> Long live ubuntu!! death to centos!!
[06:10] <scott_nwoktech> full convert speaking there
[06:10] <bazhang> !ot > scott_nwoktech
[06:10] <phrontist> scunizi: sadly, it's on loan from someone who has a ton of data on it I can't remove
[06:10] <phrontist> *bangs head*
[06:11] <ajamison5579> http://www.rentacoder.com/RentACoder/misc/BidRequests/ShowBidRequest.asp?lngBidRequestId=1202920
[06:11] <ajamison5579> :)
[06:11] <ajamison5579> someone wants evolution working
[06:12] <halberd> I want to use 2 finger scrolling, but my /etc/X11/xorg.conf looks like a stub, with no section for the touchpad and only very brief sections for a few other things
[06:12] <bazhang> ajamison5579, dont paste that here
[06:13] <halberd> where is the touchpad being configured if not in xorg.conf?
[06:13] <ajamison5579> ok chief
[06:14] <SandGorgon> halberd, /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
[06:14] <ajamison5579> sorry i found it comical
[06:14] <rargueta> #ubuntu-desktop
[06:14] <ajamison5579> ?
[06:15] <halberd> SandGorgon, how do I enable touchpad scrolling then?
[06:15] <halberd> 2 finger scrolling
[06:16] <SandGorgon> halberd, no idea.. just knew about that file
[06:16] <halberd> also I'm not 100% sure it is a synaptic touchpad
[06:17] <phrontist> help me interpret this: http://pastebin.com/d75cb69d1
[06:18] <phrontist> how many partitions do I have, how big are they?
[06:18] <phrontist> is it likely that my OS stuff is in a seperate one?
[06:18] <phrontist> (the visual dialog ubuntu presents shows an "OS" drive, which gives me hope)
[06:19] <phrontist> is there any way to see that in non-block units? (GB?)
[06:19] <cxo> phrontist, df -h
[06:19] <scunizi> phrontist: you have 6 partitions on drive one and one on drive 2
[06:19] <chachin> anyone here knows who owns #idlerpg :o
[06:20] <cxo> phrontist, fdisk -l
[06:20] <bazhang> chachin, ask for #channel support in #freenode
[06:20] <scunizi> phrontist: one of the partitions is actually and extended partition.. so officially 5 partitions
[06:20] <chachin> i need to talk to the bot's owner :(
[06:20] <chachin> nvm
[06:21] <phrontist> I'm confused
[06:21] <phrontist> http://pastebin.com/d7454041a
[06:21] <phrontist> that's the output of du -h
[06:22] <chetnick> can anybody tell me how to connect to wpa protected wifi using terminal?
[06:22] <phrontist> which shows me as having a 200GB HDD
[06:22] <boxjon> sorry for the foolish qustions earlier im kinda new to xchat
[06:22] <phrontist> but I thought it was 500GB
[06:22] <halberd> what is the purpose of "lock to panel" for panel items?
[06:22] <halberd> it just prevents me from moving them until I uncheck the box, does it do anything else
[06:22] <lopeze> Does anyone know of a full tutorial to completing a Minimal iso install?
[06:22] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 chetnick
[06:22] <chetnick> halberd: you cant move them.
[06:22] <scunizi> phrontist: that's reporting on either sda3 or sda6 hard to tell
[06:23] <halberd> chetnick, but I can move them if I uncheck the box
[06:23] <Jade> holy hell, that's a lot of users...
[06:23] <Jade> oh sorry!
[06:23] <chetnick> halberd: yes
[06:23] <halberd> what use would a feature that just prevents me from moving them be?
[06:23] <halberd> why would I ever want that?
[06:23] <SJr> My CPU while using wine and VMWare basically sits in the wa state 90% of the time.
[06:23] <scunizi> phrontist: you have a fat32 partition that looks pretty big
[06:24] <chetnick> halberd: lets say you start program that will show up on panel ..... it wont be able to push or move locked icons.
[06:24] <chetnick> locked one will be always where its locked.
[06:24] <halberd> ok
[06:24] <phrontist> scunizi: yeah, that's the portable HDD
[06:24] <[WOLF]Roscoe> I'm rather new to Ubuntu and the Gnome shell.  Would somebody mind answering a question for me?
[06:25] <phrontist> but my MP3's have crazy unicode characters in their filenames
[06:25] <scunizi> phrontist: not likely unless all the other partitions are also on the portable
[06:25] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: nobody will answer you that question. just ask.
[06:25] <halberd> chetnick, new programs that I start don't show up on the panel, do they?
[06:25] <halberd> I don't think there's a way to enable that
[06:25] <phrontist> scunizi: oh reaaallly...
[06:25] <chetnick> halberd: some of them, skype does, vlc does, etc ....
[06:25] <chetnick> pidgin does too.
[06:25] <halberd> oh yeah
[06:25] <[WOLF]Roscoe> Chetnick: Fair enough.  How the hell do I get my taskbar back?
[06:26] <phrontist> which is this large fat32 partition?
[06:26] <halberd> I guess xchat does that
[06:26] <scunizi> phrontist: sda is drive 1... sdb is drive 2 .. sdc is drive 3 etc.. sda1-6 are partitions on drive 1
[06:26] <scunizi> phrontist: sda2
[06:26] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: you have any left?
[06:26] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: top bottom?
[06:26] <[WOLF]Roscoe> Bottom is gone, top is still there
[06:26] <[WOLF]Roscoe> But doesn't show minimized program windows
[06:27] <phrontist> scunizi: how big is it?
[06:27] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: right click on the empty space of the top one, and click add new panel.
[06:27] <phrontist> (wth is it presented in sectors... why isn't there a -h option?)
[06:27] <scunizi> phrontist: I can't tell by block size.. but you might be able to mount it and then check it
[06:27] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: after that, right click on newly created panel and click add to panel, and than find minimized windows, or something like that.
[06:28] <halberd> how do I find if my touchpad is synaptics or not?
[06:28] <chetnick> can anybody tell me how to connect to wpa protected wifi using terminal?
[06:28] <scunizi> halberd: you might try lspci in a terminal
[06:28] <phrontist> ohhhhhhh
[06:28] <halberd> chetnick, you use iwconfig
[06:28] <phrontist> the FAT32 is a dell rescue thing
[06:28] <halberd> scunizi, lspci shows nothing relevant as far as I can see
[06:28] <halberd> it doesn't show touchpads
[06:28] <chetnick> halberd: hehe, how? iwconfig wont work without wpa_supplement ....
[06:28] <scunizi> halberd: try sudo lshw.. you'll get lots more info
[06:29] <[WOLF]Roscoe> chetnick, thanks very much
[06:29] <chetnick> [WOLF]Roscoe: np, anytime.
[06:29] <halberd> scunizi, I tried lshw and looked through it but didn't see anything that said touchpad or mouse
[06:29] <phrontist> scunizi: not very big... 2GB or so :-/
[06:29] <halberd> I'll try a grep
[06:29] <scunizi> phrontist: sda1 might be the media button ..
[06:30] <phrontist> media button?
[06:30] <chetnick> halberd: i know how to connect to wpa using iwconfig, but not wpa, i found how to connect to wpa using wpa_supplement, but in 9.04 wpa_supplement.conf does not exist, so something is changed ... and now i am stuck.
[06:30] <phrontist> well in any case
[06:30] <halberd> yeah grep shows nothing in lshw that says either pad or mouse
[06:30] <phrontist> what I need to do is rename all my mp3's to remove bad characters
[06:31] <halberd> chetnick, I thought it was wpa_supplicant
[06:31] <scunizi> halberd: how 'bout wacom?
[06:31] <soreau> phrontist: You could probably write a one liner in bash (ask in #bash)
[06:31] <phrontist> the perl "rename" utility should do it
[06:31] <phrontist> I'm kind of hesitant though
[06:31] <halberd> scunizi, no... although funny coincidence I do also own a wacom tablet
[06:32] <scunizi> phrontist: copy some of the files to a different directory and try it there.
[06:32] <phrontist> scunizi: oh, not about that
[06:32] <phrontist> I'm confident I can make it work properly (though I will test on a small case first)
[06:33] <phrontist> I'm just afraid I'll overwrite something inadvertaently
[06:33] <phrontist> if I have fæl.mp3 and fael.mp3
[06:34] <SnakDoc> any of you use lilo instead of grub ?
[06:34] <phrontist> SnakDoc: I would avoid LILO if possible
[06:35] <halberd> this touchpad has an annoyingly shorter shift key, it doesn't extend all the way below the enter key
[06:35] <SnakDoc> whats difference ? kind of what i was wondering haven't seen much about it
[06:35] <halberd> that's a nuisance for me, when I want to type a pipeline |
[06:35] <Campfire> how do fdisk on ubuntu on a lap top with only one slot for a hard drive in terminal to tranfer to none working pc
[06:35] <phrontist> LILO is, as I understand it, just a less featurful bootloader that's semi-deprecated
[06:35] <phrontist> it's smaller, I think
[06:35] <phrontist> which might make it useful in embedded apps or something
[06:36]  * phrontist shrugs
[06:36] <phrontist> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LILO
[06:36] <SnakDoc> ok just wounder :)
[06:37] <koshari> phrontist can you use easytag?
[06:37] <Campfire> can i ask a question
[06:37] <phrontist> koshari: yes, and I have :-)
[06:37] <phrontist> that's kind of the problem
[06:37] <phrontist> now I have mp3's with crazy unicode chars in them
[06:38] <phrontist> that i can't backup to a FAT32 partition
[06:38] <phrontist> which is all I've got :-/
[06:38] <phrontist> long story...
[06:38] <phrontist> anyway "rename" will avoid overwrite by default
[06:38] <phrontist> so that's the ticket
[06:38] <phrontist> thanks for all your help scunizi
[06:38] <scunizi> phrontist: :)
[06:39] <Campfire> get help and try to help other people
[06:39] <Campfire> you rick
[06:39] <Campfire> rock
[06:39] <WIGGMPk> Can someone explain why I have a /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-server ??? I never installed any server images or kernels
[06:40] <halberd> I heard that in avant window navigator, you can slide it to one side or the other
[06:40] <halberd> is that true?
[06:40] <halberd> I want to put it over to the left of the bottom of the screen
[06:40] <WIGGMPk> that depends on what "it" is
[06:41] <Campfire> modules mean its a program?
[06:41] <Campfire> or you have to make install
[06:41] <Hilikus> what determines the permission in the client of a samba share once mounted?
[06:42] <Hilikus> for some reason the mount point is root:sambashare but when i mount the share it becomes all 115:ntp
[06:42] <WIGGMPk> Hilikus: whoever set the samba share up, determines user permission..
[06:42] <Campfire> i never tryed samba
[06:43] <Campfire> hows samba treating you
[06:43] <Hilikus> WIGGMPk: in the server side i have everything using something different altogether
[06:43] <mase_work> Campfire: it's pretty useful. I replaced a windows 2k8 fileserver recently because it was having performance issues
[06:43] <bazhang> Campfire, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:43] <WIGGMPk> Hilikus: I have no idea what you are trying to tell me
[06:43] <Campfire> ok
[06:43] <jeffs> hi...can any one show me how to use the 3d desktop switcher??
[06:44] <bazhang> jeffs, the cube?
[06:44] <P_Kable> hi, someone has nfs server installed ? where are LOGS ?
[06:45] <Hilikus> WIGGMPk: the permisions of the folders in the server are ok to be shared. they have rw access and the client uses that same user to mount it. problem is once the client mounts it, it sees the permissions screwed. not to what they are in the server
[06:45] <bazhang> jeffs, install ccsm, make sure you have the 3D drivers for your card, and set (in general) of ccsm virtual horizontal desktops to 4
[06:45] <bazhang> !ccsm | jeffs
[06:45] <mase_work> P_Kable: i dunno about LOGS , but the log files are located in /var/log/ i imagine. proabably /var/log/nfs or something like that
[06:45] <P_Kable> mase_work=> that's my problem
[06:46] <P_Kable> it is not there
[06:46] <P_Kable> :D
[06:46] <mase_work> the nfs config files should tell you where they log to , otherwise syslog will tell you
[06:46] <angel12> hey guys quick question: i just install ubuntu server 9.04, and now after a reboot i cannot reload apt or install any packages, but i can ping the us.archive.ubuntu.com server
[06:46] <mase_work> P_Kable: that wasn't the problem you stated.
[06:46] <WIGGMPk> Hilikus: im not sure then.. if you have the permission set properly then it should work
[06:47] <P_Kable> anyway I don't find any log for NFS (that's my problem)
[06:47] <halberd> angel12, what a coincidence I also just installed 9.04 (upgrade from 8.10)
[06:47] <halberd> like just finished half an hour ago
[06:47] <P_Kable> anyone with nfs-kernel-server installed ?
[06:47] <\\`oot> Howdy everyone
[06:47] <mase_work> P_Kable: what does the nfs config file list for logging  ? does it have its own log file or does it use syslog ?
[06:47] <\\`oot> Anyone upgrade to FireFix 3.5 yet?
[06:48] <u_dparte> anyone that's running 9.04 w/ an nvidia card I highly recommend installing the 185 driver from nvidia ... fixed a ton of issues as well as performance
[06:48] <bazhang> !ff35 | \\`oot
[06:48] <P_Kable> i don't know where the conf file is either mase_work :)
[06:48] <nellmathew> lopeze, how'd it go?
[06:48] <\\`oot> bazhang: Perfect... I like getting in on the 'testing'...
[06:49] <P_Kable> /etc/exports jsute has share definitions
[06:49] <P_Kable> just*
[06:50] <angel12> apt just tries to connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com and then doesnt connect
[06:50] <angel12> any ideas?
[06:50] <mase_work> angel12:  try a different archive ?
[06:50] <vise> Hi.. I installed Qemu and SDL on my ubuntu 8.10... But qemu cannot initialize SDL since, as i found on the web, SDL in ubuntu does not get the frame buffer. Can someone suggest a workaround. I really need to run Qemu..
[06:50] <angel12> mase_work:  im trying to apt-get update
[06:51] <angel12> it just worked about 15 minutes ago
[06:51] <u_dparte> angel12, you need to modify your sources to look for another repo
[06:51] <angel12> i cant install any packages from apt
[06:51] <mase_work> angel12: i don't see how that prevents you from trying a different server
[06:51] <u_dparte> but apt-get update is working fine for me and I'm using us.archive
[06:52] <mase_work> dns issue maybe ?
[06:52] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys is there any kind of keyboard shortcut or anything that when I want to have an app open and a nautilus window open that I can press a key combination or do something to make it faster to get both windows side by side using the whole desktop rather than manually resizing each and every time? Just wondering it would be very helpful.
[06:52] <angel12> i can ping it fine
[06:53] <mase_work> angel12: that doesn't mean that it's pinging the right server :)
[06:53] <mase_work> what IP address do you get for it?
[06:53] <sagredo> yo crew
[06:53] <sagredo> what's up
[06:53] <angel12> 91.189.88.46
[06:54] <u_dparte> angel12, i get 91.189.88.31
[06:54] <lucax1> #remastersys
[06:54] <vise> Hi.. I installed Qemu and SDL on my ubuntu 8.10... But qemu cannot initialize SDL since, as i found on the web, SDL in ubuntu does not get the frame buffer. Can someone suggest a workaround. I really need to run Qemu..
[06:54] <lucax1> any ideas about that program?
[06:55] <bullgard4> After dist-upgrade 8.04.2 > 8.10 > 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[06:55] <bazhang> lucax1, uck is easier imo there are other options as well
[06:55] <bazhang> !remaster | lucax1
[06:55] <u_dparte> vise, why qemu?
[06:55] <u_dparte> why not something like virtualbox or wine?
[06:56] <koshari> whats shiretoko?
[06:56] <lucax1> i want to make it out of my current installation
[06:56] <angel12> ugg
[06:56] <vise> u_dparte, I do osdev, and I need something that quickly goes through the bios stage, since i code and run pretty often...
[06:56] <angel12> im a b00n, i turned on the firewall lol
[06:57] <bazhang> lucax1, a clone?
[06:57] <bullgard4> What is the command-line command to switch on a WiFi adapter having the driver ipw2200?
[06:57] <u_dparte> vise, ic ... can't help you then, I don't have any exp. with it
[06:58] <shahalam> hi all
[06:58] <lucax1> bazhang: yeah i want to make a dist type cd with my current ubuntu... like one of the options of remastersys, but the thing is that ive installed the 2.6.30 kernel, and for some reason remastersys doesnt work with it... i can do it with 2.6.28 kernel but not .30
[06:58] <u_dparte> bullgard4, when I need to switch wifi interfaces I do sudo ifconfig <wifi interface> down
[06:58] <u_dparte> sudo ifconfig <other wifi interface> up
[06:58] <vise> u_dparte, Have you ever run qemu/virtualbox for windows, in wine? Or that would be too slow.. :(
[06:58] <sagredo> yo crew
[06:59] <sagredo> whilst
[06:59] <sagredo> trying to connect to the internet
[06:59] <shahalam> i plan to buy a tv tuner card can any one suggest me a good one compatible with ubuntu 9.04 ?
[06:59] <sagredo> what should I install
[06:59] <u_dparte> I've run XP/osX in virtualbox without any issues
[06:59] <sagredo> to get the little wireless icon in my taskbar
[06:59] <sagredo> so I can click it and see available networks
[06:59] <koshari> shahalam usb or pci?
[06:59] <mase_work> u_dparte: OSX works in VB ?
[06:59] <shahalam> pci
[06:59] <u_dparte> mase_work,  ... very carefully
[06:59] <koshari> dvico ones work well
[07:00] <u_dparte> mase_work, it's not what you would call stable
[07:00] <Wzcocoon> Hello every body, I just ugraded to 9.4 and under 8.4 I coud use compix with my graphic cart nvidia but now I cannot any longer any idea what can be adjusted to make it work? thank
[07:00] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, have you install nvidia drivers?
[07:00] <dangerdave> Is there an official AMI for 9.04, or are there only AMIs for Intrepid and Hardy?
[07:00] <Wzcocoon> I have the driver 180.44 installed
[07:01] <BlackDex> hello there
[07:01] <BlackDex> i have a problem with my hdd
[07:01] <BlackDex> when i run e2fsck -f i get a view questions
[07:01] <u_dparte> have you run sudo nividia-config
[07:01] <BlackDex> and i don't realy know what they do
[07:01] <Wzcocoon> nop
[07:01] <u_dparte> try that first
[07:01] <Wzcocoon> will do that now
[07:01] <BlackDex> entry x has an invalide inode. clear (y)
[07:01] <u_dparte> it will setup your xorg.conf
[07:01] <BlackDex> What happens when i select yes?
[07:01] <BlackDex> does it remove the associated file
[07:01] <mase_work> u_dparte: we have a piece of software that we wanted to test in OSX but the macbook we have is broken. So we have a free licence and all we wanted bought the macbook for was testing an application that we had written
[07:01] <shahalam> thanks koshari
[07:02] <Wzcocoon> sudo: nividia-config: command not found
[07:02] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: just run "e2fsck -f -y"
[07:02] <BlackDex> WIGGMPk: i did that
[07:02] <bazhang> Wzcocoon, nvidia
[07:02] <BlackDex> but then it complains about having it to run manualy
[07:02] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, lemme check real quick .. i just ran it for the 185 driver
[07:02] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: what do you mean 'complains'
[07:03] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, nvidia-xconfig
[07:03] <BlackDex> it gives me an kind of error message.. saying that i have to run e2fsck manually.. without -a or -p
[07:03] <BlackDex> ah
[07:03] <BlackDex> wait
[07:03] <BlackDex> you have -y
[07:03] <FloodBot3> BlackDex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:03] <BlackDex> tssss
[07:03] <Wzcocoon> I just got WARNING messqges
[07:03] <u_dparte> mase_work, I would suggest doing a google search for how to run osX ... it's not really supported esp. in here
[07:04] <BlackDex> but clearing an inode wont remove the file?
[07:04] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: why are you running fsck anyway? if the drive is marked clean then you dont need to run it
[07:04] <u_dparte> Wzcocoon, did you run as sudo?
[07:04] <Wzcocoon> yes
[07:05] <mase_work> u_dparte: just interesting to note, it's not high on our priority list as we only have a few customers that care and they are reasonably technical.
[07:05] <BlackDex> WIGGMPk: well during boot. it gave an error
[07:06] <WIGGMPk> BlackDex: then you dont need the -f to run it if there is an error.. -f forces checking even if the filesystem is marked clean
[07:06] <u_dparte> mase_work, ya - I don't really use osX except for testing ... and walking clients through installs etc...
[07:06] <mase_work> u_dparte: yeh its not my cup of tea either
[07:07] <WIGGMPk> mase_work: installed MAC OSX on ANYTHING other than Apple hardware violates the EULA and is not for a good topic of conversation in this chat.
[07:07] <Thingymebob> Wzcocoon: Had similar with mine had to add the following to the "screen" section in my xorg.conf
[07:07] <Thingymebob> Option	"AddARGBGLXVisuals"	"True"
[07:08] <mase_work> WIGGMPk: ah crap
[07:08] <lucax1> this is giving me a really really hard time...
[07:08] <u_dparte> WIGGMPk, ... not true ... if you look at their license it is now a 1 machine agreement ... however you are right that is irrelevant
[07:08] <WIGGMPk> mase_work: im not saying "it cant be done" but it definitely is frowned upon in here and by Apple
[07:08] <bazhang> it's not legal and offtopic here
[07:09] <bullgard4> u_dparte: What do you mean by <other wifiinterface>?
[07:09] <WIGGMPk> u_dparte: I work for a company that ships every Apple product on the East Coast of the US, the license is like that for a reason lol
[07:09] <u_dparte> bullgard4, I have a wifi1 and wifi0 -- -two diff. wifi cards
[07:09] <u_dparte> to switch between the two you bring 1 down and 1 up
[07:09] <u_dparte> visa versa to switch them
[07:10] <bullgard4> u_dparte: Your messages do not answer the question which have put.
[07:10] <davidguard> Hey all. I'm wondering if I can some advice for a friend. He tells me that after a recent upgrade ATI drivers in the repositories caused his monitor to become bricked. What could have caused this? Could it be: Ubuntu/Canonical not testing the driver sufficiently before including it in the repository; him using binary drivers; him not being careful enough. The reason I'm asking is because he is saying this is his reason fo
[07:10] <bazhang> jeffs, you have ccsm installed? (here and not via PM)
[07:11] <digitaltao> ek
[07:11] <bazhang> jeffs, please answer here (NOT PM)
[07:11] <Jordan_U> davidguard: What makes him think that the drivers bricked the monitor? If it wasn't a CRT then I don't see how that would be possible, and even then not likely.
[07:12] <mase_work> WIGGMPk: i don't want to do anything illegal and i'd rather not support that platform if thats the approach they are taking.
[07:12] <jeffs> yes its installed
[07:12] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: well.. I would start by assuring him that a driver can not "brick" a monitor..
[07:12] <halberd> is it possible to get wicd to connect automatically to known wireless networks?
[07:12] <bazhang> jeffs, open ccsm and look at general settings (general)
[07:12] <halberd> known = connected to them before
[07:12] <vise> Ok.. one more question... Is it possible to cleanly uninstall a program which was installed using 'make install' from the source tarball? Most programs don't have an uninstall script in their Makefile. Or is there a program that would parse and reverse changes by looking at the install script in the Makefile?
[07:12] <davidguard> Jordan_U: He says that was the case. I have no idea whether it's true or whether he even knows what he's talking about. That's why I'm asking.
[07:12] <jeffs> ok
[07:12] <u_dparte> bullgard4, what are you trying to do exactly
[07:13] <davidguard> WIGGMPk: that's good news. I can tell him that.
[07:13] <halberd> vise I don't think that's likely... maybe someone has tried
[07:13] <bazhang> jeffs, under General Options (top row) click on Desktop Size
[07:13] <jeffs> ok
[07:13] <halberd> vise often a program will say where it installs things
[07:13] <davidguard> Does anyone have any other related info I could use to continue advocating Ubuntu to him?
[07:13] <halberd> vise like in the readme
[07:13] <bazhang> then horizontal virtual size set to 4 jeffs
[07:13] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: drivers can not render hardware (the monitor) useless.. he most likely does not have the ATI drivers installed correctly, or does not have the xserver setup properly. Its tough to say without providing information and config files
[07:13] <halberd> vise so to uninstall it you could simply remove wherever it said it installed to
[07:14] <vise> halberd, Yes, but there are a lot of locations... It takes time to remove them all.. It puts configurations, binaries and icons etc...
[07:14] <halberd> using your good judgment
[07:14] <jeffs> thanks
[07:14] <davidguard> WIGGMPk: so that main thing is it's not Ubuntu's fault... right?
[07:14] <digitaltao> Anyone here install Firefox 3.5 yet?
[07:14] <u_dparte> digitaltao, yes
[07:14] <jeffs> are you a bot
[07:14] <u_dparte> works great
[07:15] <digitaltao> Is it much quicker??
[07:15] <Jordan_U> davidguard: CRT or LCD? I really doubt that even a CRT could be bricked, but I am willing to say it might be possible ( too high a refresh rate might concievably cause problems with a CRT ), an LCD on the other hand I don't know how it would be possible.
[07:15] <bazhang> !ff35 | digitaltao try yourself
[07:15] <u_dparte> digitaltao, fairly - I haven't noticed the big 50% increase like they claim
[07:15] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: well.. technically no.. if he installed the drivers 'the ubuntu way' then no, its not Ubuntu's fault.. If he started by using binaries from ATI and switched to Ubuntu's repositories for the driver than its definitely a config issue
[07:15] <bullgard4> u_dparte:  After dist-upgrade 8.04.2 > 8.10 > 9.04 I cannot switch on my WiFi adapter 2200BG any more pressing Ctrl+Alt+W. The Linux kernel module ipw2200 is loaded. /lib/modules/2.6.28-13-generic/kernel/ubuntu/misc/acerhk.ko exists. How to fix that?
[07:15] <digitaltao> oh
[07:16] <digitaltao> i think i will just wget the non real deal
[07:16] <digitaltao> ***er the non beta
[07:16] <WIGGMPk> davidguard: I have never used ATI drivers on Ubuntu but have heard of them being troublesome.. If its relatively similar to nvidia drivers than Ubuntu should be able to handle them.
[07:16] <davidguard> Jordan_U: At this stage I'm unware of the monitor type... he's an old friend I haven't seen in about 10 years... I recently only came in contact with him through Facebook. His replies to a status update are causing anyone seeing them to be misled, if what he's saying is untrue of course.
[07:16] <u_dparte> digitaltao, they have them in one of the repos ... my upgrade last night caught it and upgraded
[07:16] <u_dparte> i think its the proposed repo
[07:17] <croddy> hello, is there a way to configure grub to wait forever for me to select a kernel before it boots?
[07:17] <jeffs> how do I make sure that my video card drivers are properly installed?
[07:17] <high-rez> So...  I just tried to install and it hung at "scanning the mirror"./
[07:17] <Jordan_U> croddy: Yes
[07:17] <u_dparte> bullgard4, I'm not sure ... dist-upgrades are not ideal IMO ... try running system>>administration >> hardware drivers to see if you need to install one
[07:18] <davidguard> Thanks for the advice guys. I will try explaining that so that no one gets the wrong idea.
[07:18] <dinar> всем привет
[07:18] <bazhang> dinar, #ubuntu-ru
[07:19] <Jordan_U> croddy: IIRC if you remove the "timeout" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst it won't boot anything automatically but let me check before you try that.
[07:19] <croddy> that seems to cause it to instantly boot the default entry
[07:19] <davidguard> Oh one other question: does Ubuntu have dual screen support... I've never tried.
[07:20] <bazhang> !xrandr | davidguard
[07:20] <Jordan_U> davidguard: Yes, but how easy / stable it is depends on the driver
[07:20] <davidguard> Thanks bazhang I'll have a look.
[07:21] <davidguard> Jordan_U: thanks for that.
[07:22] <high-rez> Man what the heck - I see posts about this from like two years ago and its still not been fixed.  What a terrible user experience.
[07:22] <boozler> I'm running desktop effects with this video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121019 and it's performing rather poorly... Can any one confirm that they would expect this card to perform poorly (other hardware aside)
[07:23] <Jordan_U> croddy: Commenting out / removing the timeout line should do it ( just checked ).
[07:23] <croddy> ok, thanks
[07:25] <davidguard> Oh one last point of clarification: this could not have been caused by simply upgrading? Yes/No?
[07:25] <steph_> i had a soundcard which didnt work now i changed to usb soundcard and dunno whys not working either
[07:25] <Thingymebob> boozler: Are you using Nvidia or nv drivers
[07:26] <boozler> thingymebob nvidia
[07:26] <mubu> Anyone know when Firefox 3.5 will be released in the ubuntu jaunty 9.04 repositories? Thanks
[07:27] <gauravsrf> HELLO EVERY ONE
[07:27] <aacosta_> hello
[07:27] <steph_> brb
[07:27] <leaf-sheep> !ff3.5 | mubu
[07:27] <Thingymebob> boozler: My old Nvidia works OK so I would expect this to be ok too, What exactly do you mean by poor.
[07:27] <sattam> clear
[07:27] <stealth-> anyone know a java decompiler for linux?
[07:27] <gauravsrf> could any one help me in the situation like i want to syncronize my one of folder from windows partition to the linux partation and same way via versa is it possible if so how ?
[07:28] <aacosta_> can anyone help me out with vsftpvd
[07:28] <aacosta_> ftpd
[07:28] <aacosta_> i dont know for some strange reason im not able to do file transfes
[07:28] <Spike1506> gauravsrf, i would use rsync to do such thing
[07:28] <aacosta_> locally from one ubuntu box to another
[07:28] <leaf-sheep> gauravsrf: Use Unison if you need GUI.
[07:28] <Spike1506> gauravsrf, altough im not sure howto do it.
[07:28] <boozler> Thingymebob its somewhat slow and not very smooth. I also trying to run it in 1920x1080...
[07:29] <gauravsrf> ?
[07:29] <mubu> leaf-sheep, have a real answer?
[07:30] <Siegfried> i don't understand something, if i put http://pastebin.com/m2bbded83 in babelfish, spanish to english
[07:30] <justanothercoder> how do i change the timezone on an ubuntu-server?
[07:30] <Siegfried> ops
[07:30] <Siegfried> english to spanish
[07:30] <Siegfried> quotes are changed to spanish quotes in firefox, but in lynx wget or curl it doesn't show any quote
[07:30] <kbp> between Norton Ghost & Partimage, which one is faster?
[07:31] <Siegfried> sudo tzconfig justanothercoder
[07:31] <Siegfried> or dpkg-reconfigure tz-data
[07:31] <Siegfried> tzdata*
[07:32] <Mike94287> Instead of having to type 'php /path/to/file.php' in terminal to run a php script, is there a way to add a custom right click menu option in Nautilus that will open terminal with that line in it?
[07:32] <gauravsrf> could any one help me in the situation like i want to synchronize my one of folder from windows partition to the Linux partition and same way via versa is it possible if so how ?
[07:33] <MooKow> lol
[07:33] <MooKow> taking my name XD
[07:34] <justanothercoder> Siegfried : it says tzconfig is deprecated
[07:34] <lopeze> Can anyone help me set up a full Ubuntu install post installation with a minimal iso?
[07:34] <justanothercoder> and i should use  dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[07:34] <Thingymebob> boozler: http://www.nabble.com/Jaunty:-How-do-you-activate-video-acceleration--td227 looks like poster was having same issue
[07:35] <digitaltao> why lopeze?
[07:35] <bullgard4> u_dparte: From my investigations I conclude that the proper driver is installed. Something with my configuration seems to be not all right after the dist-upgrade. --  Thank you for commenting.
[07:35] <Yossarian> hey guys
[07:35] <boozler> Thingymebob links no good for me
[07:35] <manpreet> hi
[07:35] <u_dparte> bullgard4, n/p .. sorry i can't help much
[07:35] <Yossarian> i'm using latest amarok and i'd like to listen to last.fm radio through it but it doesn't seem to work
[07:35] <manpreet> hoe r u
[07:35] <lopeze> digitaltao: With the alternate Hardy Heron disk it always hangs at 6 percent. The only way I can get it to install is through the minimal iso.
[07:35] <Yossarian> it show it's playing but it doesn't output anything
[07:36] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Did it work in the LiveCD session?
[07:37] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Or, can you try it with a jaunty LiveCD?
[07:37] <gauravsrf> could any one help me in the situation like i want to synchronize my one of folder from windows partition to the Linux partition and same way via versa is it possible if so how?
[07:37] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: I obtained a 9.04 CD only yesterday. I will test it now.
[07:38] <legend2440> Mike94287: like this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=336193
[07:38] <gauravsrf> any help
[07:38] <Thingymebob> boozler: what version is your driver?
[07:38] <Jordan_U> !rsync | gauravsrf
[07:39] <Jordan_U> gauravsrf: It also works locally
[07:39] <jahc> help.. my netbook only has 4gb solid state non upgradeable hard drive. after installing every app codec addon plugin and software I want to do what I want to do, I've only got about 600mb left! I need more space for my music and youtube clips!
[07:39] <boozler> Thingymebob 180
[07:39] <jahc> what can I delete that isnt essential?
[07:39] <jahc> need gcc (just in case), need openoffice.org..
[07:39] <vadviktor> Good morning PPL! Anyone knows a way how to get information on an unmounted hdd before mounting? Like what labels or partitions does it have?
[07:40] <Thingymebob> boozler: have you tried 173?
[07:40] <Mike94287> legend2440: Kind of, but instead of just being in the directory and still having to type 'php file.php' I'd rather have it be there right away when I open the file with terminal
[07:40] <boozler> Thingymebob ill need to try that i suppose
[07:41] <Yossarian> ok nevermind it works :D
[07:41] <Jordan_U> vadviktor: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdxx
[07:41] <Thingymebob> jahc: install localepurge to get rid of all languages you don't need
[07:42] <vadviktor> Jordan_U: thank you very much! :)
[07:42] <Thingymebob> jahc: sudo apt-get clean
[07:42] <kilrathi_> I'm trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardy, but apt tells me there are no release upgrades at this time.  I've been following the eol pages on the ubuntu site.  Can anyone help?
[07:44] <legend2440> Mike94287: try this  right click Desktop and select Create Launcher   Select Type   Application in Terminal  Name it Whatever you want then in command try this foe example     gnome-terminal --working-directory='/usr/src'  When you click it it opens in  /usr/src
[07:44] <Thingymebob> !upgrade | kilrathi_
[07:45] <Thingymebob> Kilrathi_ : sorry, just read you've been following those!
[07:46] <kilrathi> The other problem i've been having with that page is it seems to only refer to the gui upgrade.  I'm doing this all through the cli.  X isn't even installed.
[07:47] <Gunther> hi when i given the #xhost 192.168.1.80
[07:47] <Gunther> i'm getting the error xhost:  unable to open display ""
[07:47] <lopeze> Anyone able to help me complete a full install of ubuntu as if it was done with the live cd, however in this case it is done with the minimal iso install?
[07:47] <Gunther> can any one help
[07:48] <bullgard4> I have started the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition CD. It tells me that the radio networks are diabled. How to enable them?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> lopeze: As I told you before, just "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[07:49] <lopeze> Even then I cannot get the graphical display to appear even with start x.
[07:49] <lopeze> After doing that the machine also tells me that the filesystem has errors that even with a manual fsck do not go away.
[07:49] <bullgard4> I have started the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition CD. It tells me that the radio networks are disabled. How to enable them?
[07:49] <Jordan_U> lopeze: Are you sure that the hard drive is good?
[07:49] <justanothercoder> my cron doesn't seem to be firing, i setup crontab right. is there a way to check some error log or something?
[07:50] <lopeze> Yes.
[07:50] <indus> Gunther: what are you trying to do
[07:50] <micah> sup motherfuckers
[07:50] <lopeze> Should I be running the command as root or under the username?
[07:51] <indus> micah: wrong channel
[07:51] <root_> exit
[07:51] <indus> !ops > micah
[07:51] <bullgard4> Ich habe die Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition CD gestartet. Sie meldet: "Funknetzwerke sind deaktiviert." Wie aktiviert man sie?
[07:52] <micah> dont even know what the hell that means
[07:52] <Cosmo1> I am having a odd couple of problems one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher
[07:52] <indus> !ops > indus
[07:52] <indus> oops
[07:52] <indus> micah: watch your language
[07:52] <Gunther> indus: i want to open X in a remote ssh session
[07:53] <micah> i do what i want bitch dont tell me what to do
[07:53] <Gunther> indus: and run some gui applications
[07:53] <chiques> Anyone have any idea why my videos are really choppy (e.g. Youtube, facebook...) when playing in Firefox?
[07:53] <tanath> need. help. removed secondary HD and now machine won't boot
[07:53] <PC_Nerd101> Hi - is there a way I can get ubuntu to display what runtime (rc) its in?
[07:53] <tanath> freezes at 'reading hardware drivers' and caps lock starts blinking
[07:54] <ikonia> micah: this channel has a clean language policy, please control your language, I hope that makes it clear
[07:54] <atomic007za> hi
[07:54] <tanath> what does blinking capslock mean?
[07:54] <micah> oh thats hella messed up we should have freedom of speech
[07:54] <ikonia> micah: then you don't have to be in this channel if you can't follow the rules
[07:54] <ikonia> tanath: sounds like it's probing and not completing
[07:54] <micah> how to i switch channels?
[07:55] <ikonia> micah: /join #channel_name
[07:55] <gauravsrf_> rsync how to use it local folders
[07:55] <Jordan_U> tanath: Usually a kernel panic
[07:55] <ikonia> micah: /part will make you exist this channel
[07:55] <tanath> ikonia: all i did was remove an unnecessary hard drive
[07:55] <Jordan_U> tanath: Basically the equivalent of a BSOD
[07:55] <ikonia> tanath: may be more nessasary than you thought, what was on it ?
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia, Jordan_U, i have a sata drive i removed, and now my ide boot drive won't load ubuntu. freezes during bootup splash
[07:56] <Jordan_U> gauravsrf_: Just have the source and destination paths both be local
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: videos & stuff
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: just storage
[07:56] <ikonia> tanath: as you said, that really shouldn't effect it
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: indeed
[07:56] <tanath> ikonia: but now i can't boot. doesn't seem to make sense
[07:56] <ikonia> tanath: can you boot into single user mode ?
[07:57] <tanath> ikonia: i'm in recover console right now
[07:57] <tanath> +y
[07:57] <indus> Gunther: what error are you gettinh
[07:57] <kbp> hello I gonna backup my Windows and Ubuntu partitions (1 is NTFS, 1 is ext3). so which type of partition do I use to store the image backup file? Thank you very much
[07:57] <Spike1506> ext4
[07:57] <jahc> thunder: excellent, i've freed up around 150mb
[07:57] <tanath> ikonia: i booted to recovery mode, but not sure how to fix when i'm unsure of the problem
[07:57] <jahc> nice :)
[07:57] <ikonia> tanath: and that works ok ?
[07:57] <jahc> its not THAT much but every bit helps on 4gb solid state soldered in hard drives!
[07:57] <jahc> thanks guys
[07:57] <indus> Gunther: xhosts <ip>
[07:58] <tanath> tanath: well, i can get the recovery prompt. i ran irssi to get here
[07:58] <ikonia> tanath: here is my suggestion, go to your grub menu.lst and remove the splash option so there is no splash - watch what happens when you boot up and see where it hangs
[07:58] <tanath> ikonia: woops, see last msg
[07:58] <Jordan_U> kbp: Doesn't matter, the image can be stored on anything ( well, not fat because it has a 4 GIG file size limit, but anything else :)
[07:58] <Cosmo1>  I am having a odd couple of problems one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this
[07:58] <tanath> ikonia: what do i add to the line?
[07:58] <lasifjelais> hai2u
[07:58] <kbp> Spike1506: ext4 is buggy and every1 avoid it at the moment
[07:58] <lasifjelais> haiiiiiiiiiiii2uuuuuuuuu
[07:58] <Spike1506> i use it
[07:58] <kbp> thank you Jordan_U
[07:58] <Jordan_U> kbp: Or are you not actually creating an image but just copying the files?
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: er, woops. you mean remove the 'splash' param?
[07:59] <Spike1506> dont have any problems with it.
[07:59] <ikonia> tanath: that's it
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: been i while
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: ok
[07:59] <ikonia> tanath: no problem
[07:59] <Gunther> indus:hostname: Unknown host
[07:59] <Gunther> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name "nortrans01:0" in "list" command
[07:59] <Gunther> xauth: (stdin):1:  bad display name "nortrans01:0" in "add" command
[07:59] <Gunther> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[07:59] <Gunther> xauth: (argv):1:  bad display name "nortrans01:0" in "remove" command
[07:59] <Gunther> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[07:59] <FloodBot3> Gunther: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <tanath> ikonia: ok, i'll have a look. back in a bit if i don't figure it. thanks
[07:59] <kbp> Jordan_U I gonna use Norton Ghost to make partition image (Partimage doesnt work well)
[08:01] <Alumin> OK, this is kinda a shot in the dark, but anybody else with a Synaptics touchpad on a laptop see it stop working today with package updates?
[08:01] <Alumin> been a little while since I updated packages on the laptop, so maybe within a week or so
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> !touchpad
[08:01] <joebodo> Alumin what release ?
[08:01] <adhok> Hi, I'm having difficulties dropping out of the graphic interface and into the shell by using ctrl + alt + F1.  Whenever I do it .. makes my keyboard go wonky.  It won't allow me to type any real characters, so I can't log in to complete this darn driver installation :(  Anyone know what the problem could possibly be?
[08:02] <Alumin> Xubuntu Jaunty
[08:02] <u_dparte> adhok, did you try a restart into a freshly running ubuntu X
[08:03] <u_dparte> adhok, I just had the same thing while updating to the nvidia 185 drivers
[08:03] <kbp> adhok: how about Ctrl+Alt+F2 - F3 - F4 ... ? is it the same?
[08:03] <joebodo> Alumin updating my eeepc now
[08:03] <adhok> yes I did, although I didn't purge my machines memory, I even tried doing the recovery option and logging in as root with terminal.. and it still was giving me issues
[08:03] <Jordan_U> adhok: First of all you probably shouldn't be installing the nvidia drivers manually which is what I assume you are doing
[08:03] <adhok> havent tried ctrl + alt and any other Fkeys
[08:03] <Alumin> if it helps, I noticed that removing and re-inserting the "psmouse" kernel module had an effect
[08:03] <u_dparte> adhok, which drivers are you installing?
[08:03] <Spike1506> when will firefox 3.5 be available in ubuntu?
[08:03] <Cosmo1> my gnome panel keeps disapearing, how do I get it to stop doing that?
[08:03] <synta10> !ff35
[08:04] <Alumin> when I "modprobe psmouse", the touchpad works for about a second, then stops responding again
[08:04] <adhok> beta drivers for my gtx280s.. all the available drivers that are recommended just won't work
[08:04] <u_dparte> adhok, I had to kill some services like postfix, apache, sshd to get it to drop to a shell correctly
[08:04] <adhok> kk thanks u_dparte, that's a good idea
[08:05] <V1> Who here is using pidgin?
[08:05] <synta10> V1: me, why?
[08:05] <Cosmo1> me
[08:05] <Severity1> me
[08:05] <Severity1> why
[08:05] <supravat> v1:me
[08:05] <V1> Yeaa
[08:06] <supravat> why ??
[08:06] <jschiff> pidgin is terrible :(
[08:06] <V1> Pidgin is total pwnage
[08:06] <Severity1> no it is not
[08:06] <Alumin> I'm going to try the suggestions on the page ActionParsnip suggested, maybe that'll help
[08:06] <jschiff> an IM client without webcam support *sigh*
[08:06] <supravat> why u think that ??
[08:06] <Severity1> well it is an instant messenger
[08:06] <Alumin> jschiff: you'd really hate my setup then, I use BitlBee most of the time :)
[08:07] <Severity1> just use skype
[08:07] <joebodo> Alumin touchpad seems fine after update
[08:07] <Alumin> joebodo: bah to you, then  :D
[08:07] <jschiff> I have a lot of friends that just use msn/yahoo and aren't tech savvy enough to use skype
[08:07] <UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn> :-D
[08:07] <UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn> Lol yea
[08:08] <Alumin> mine is an Acer Aspire One ... it went into suspend and didn't come back out properly, that may have something to do with it too perhaps
[08:08] <jschiff> that's why IM clients need to have webcam support over the msn/yahoo protocol
[08:08] <Cosmo1> I tried using empathy I was not impressed
[08:08] <jschiff> same
[08:08] <jschiff> unfortunately kopete is by far the best IM client for linux
[08:08] <jschiff> however limiting itself to qt is agrivating
[08:09] <lijero> hola
[08:09] <lijero> hola
[08:09] <Gunther> indus: i want to open gui applications in ssh can you help ?
[08:09] <jschiff> Gunther: ssh -X
[08:09] <UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn> Is there like an online software repository, but in a web browser instead of sudo-apt get blah blah blah???
[08:09] <rayno_b> Hello there - I need some assistance with the "X Server" on Ubuntu Server while using Putty?
[08:09] <Thingymebob> kilrathi: Its not recommended and is frowned upon here but you can upgrade by changing your sources. PM Me if you want me to guide you through it
[08:10] <bullgard4> I have started the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition Live CD. It tells me that the radio networks are disabled. How to enable them?
[08:10] <adhok> hrm, apparently I have no services running except for root, and it still has the same issue :(
[08:10] <Jordan_U> UbUnTu-Vm-Pwn: Try Applications > Add/Remove, it's probably more what you are looking for
[08:10] <emilie> i can't log in gmail and in any other <form> like the gmail login form, i can solve it by removing the .firefox directory, but I'd like a beeter solution
[08:10] <emilie> better]
[08:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: enable your wirless card
[08:11] <bullgard4> ikonia: hehe. I just asked how to enable it.
[08:11] <Gunther> jschiff: i'm using putty from windows machine
[08:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: normally with a kill switch on the machine
[08:12] <jschiff> Gunther: Install Cygwin-X
[08:12] <jschiff> will allow you to run an X environment on windows
[08:12] <jschiff> thus allowing ssh -X tunneling
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: blargh
[08:12] <steph_> my sounds dont works at all
[08:12] <ikonia> tanath: ?
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: error msg wasn't that helpful
[08:12] <rayno_b> jschiff do you mind if I pvt you please?\
[08:12] <bullgard4> ikonia: My computer does not have a hardware kill switch.
[08:12] <ikonia> tanath: anything at all ?
[08:12] <jschiff> go ahead rayno_b
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: there were 3 relevant lines at end
[08:12] <u_dparte> steph_, did you just install ?
[08:12] <ikonia> bullgard4: is it a PC or a laptop
[08:12] <tanath> ikonia: 'Code: (lots of hex)' then..
[08:12] <bullgard4> ikonia: It is a laptop computer.
[08:13] <steph_> yesterday, i installed drivers yesterday and in pulse it shows sound, but i cant hear it
[08:13] <steph_> @ u_dparte
[08:13] <ikonia> bullgard4: then it will either have a kill switch or a kill key sequence
[08:13] <tanath> ikonia: 'EIP: avc_has_perm_noaudit+0x186/0x1b0' then...
[08:13] <ikonia> tanath: that does sound like a panic
[08:13] <tanath> ikonia: 'Kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt'
[08:13] <soreau> steph_: Try running 'alsamixer' in your terminal?
[08:13] <ikonia> tanath: game over
[08:13] <jeancalvin> hi guys, which "debian version" is closest to ubuntu 9.04? Please see this list before you answer: http://deb.opera.com/ .
[08:13] <steph_> i did
[08:13] <ikonia> jeancalvin: none
[08:14] <tanath> ikonia: it was fine before removing the HD. not sure why it'd do that
[08:14] <soreau> ! audio | steph_
[08:14] <jeancalvin> ikonia, please just look
[08:14] <jschiff> debian 5.0 jeancalvin
[08:14] <ikonia> tanath: that really shouldn't effect it....but, have you tried putting the hardware in
[08:14] <jeancalvin> i just need to install opera
[08:14] <ikonia> jeancalvin: no - they are not related
[08:14] <jeancalvin> jschiff: pls look at the list.
[08:14] <tanath> ikonia: not yet. i didn't before 'cause it was being copied to & from
[08:14] <steph_> ohh wait now comes something different in terminal
[08:14] <steph_> i try that
[08:14] <tanath> ikonia: i could now, but i'd like to know what the prob is
[08:15] <tanath> ikonia: if it works... there could still be a prob, only hidden
[08:15] <steph_> i had always problems with audio
[08:15] <jeancalvin> hi guys
[08:15] <jeancalvin> potato, woody, sarge, etch, lenny, or sid?
[08:15] <ikonia> tanath: if it works we can look into it more, but as it stands it's hard to work out due to the panic
[08:15] <ikonia> tanath: I'll be surprised if it works when the disk goes back in, but it's certainly worth trying
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: i'd be surprised if it didn't, 'cause nothing else has changed... though it is odd
[08:16] <ikonia> tanath: lets find out
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: well thanks. it's late. i'm off for now
[08:16] <TheQ> Moin
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: yeah, i'll try it, but i'm off for now
[08:16] <tanath> ikonia: thanks
[08:17] <lijero> hola
[08:17] <lijero> que tal
[08:17] <ikonia> !es
[08:17] <SnakDoc> can you run any gui app with x11 forwarding ?
[08:18] <steph_> i also lost my sound icon in panel it was there b4
[08:18] <jschiff> SnakDoc: ssh -X and yes
[08:18] <SnakDoc> steph: right click panel and hit add to panel
[08:18] <steph_> ok
[08:19] <SnakDoc> steph: look for volume control should be what you are wanting
[08:19] <indus> Gunther: hi sorry was away
[08:19] <indus> Gunther: you found help already?
[08:20] <indus> Gunther: nice tutorial here http://nixcraft.com/getting-started-tutorials/170-run-remote-x-applications-over-network-using-ssh.html
[08:21] <NOMIND> k
[08:24] <ladiez_caem> hy
[08:24] <indus> hi
[08:24] <ladiez_caem> asl
[08:24] <Cosmo1>  I am having a odd couple of problems one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this?
[08:24] <u_dparte> are you kidding me ... what is this aol now
[08:25] <steph_> i did that the page wanted but still nothing its says failed in terminal
[08:25] <Gunther> indus:thanks, indus i will read that tutorial
[08:28] <indus> Gunther: let me know if it works, i havent tried this yet
[08:29] <rubydiamond> how to install firefox 3.5 for ubuntu 8.10 using apt
[08:29] <indus> Gunther: i think xforwarding is the issue you have , make sure you set it up on the server
[08:29] <Thingymebob> !ff35
[08:31] <AndorinKato> Hi, guys! A little while back my multimedia keys on my laptop (Play/Pause, Stop, etc) stopped working for any music player. I know it's not a hardware issue since Ubuntu detects the usage of the keys themselves; they just don't function. Their keyboard shortcut assignments haven't changed. Any thoughts?
[08:31] <indus> rubydiamond:i suggest you directly download ff from mozilla
[08:32] <rubydiamond> indus, then how can I install it?
[08:32] <indus> rubydiamond: go to site and download
[08:32] <indus> www.getfirefox.com
[08:32] <AndorinKato> I think it happened after I installed a small group of updates via the Update Manager. However, on my other Jaunty install on my PC, the keys work fine.
[08:32] <rubydiamond> indus, but it will break apt ff
[08:32] <ziroday> indus: please don't recommend that.
[08:33] <indus> rubydiamond: no it wont its not a deb file
[08:33] <ziroday> rubydiamond: follow the factoid given to you above. Wait patiently or use the mozilla-security PPA if you have to
[08:33] <indus> rubydiamond: ziroday:well,iam using the ff beta from synaptic
[08:33] <tweaker25> someone can tell why some softwares need more hardware on linux than windows and why linux always grow bigger in hardware specifications need when it only does the same things as before ???
[08:34] <indus> ziroday: whatas wrong with using it from mozilla? works fine
[08:34] <AndorinKato> tweaker25: It's the other way around... Ubuntu needs 4 GB of HD space when it's installed, and Windows 7 needs 16 GB.
[08:34] <jschiff> tweaker25: examples?
[08:34] <ziroday> indus: if you'll join me in #ubuntu-offtopic I'll explain why using the packages to source from mozilla.org is not a good idea
[08:34] <AndorinKato> Linux runs a lot better on older computers than Windows.
[08:34] <indus> ziroday: ok
[08:35] <tweaker25> miro software is a good example ... linux isn't windows so cut the comparaison there ...
[08:36] <tweaker25> yep it run better but where cutting at it slowly with ubuntu and ubuntu just do the same as other distros
[08:36] <AndorinKato> Does anyone have any suggestions for the problem I described above?
[08:37]  * tweaker25 wait and pray for the next xubuntu-killer lubuntu as an official distro !!!
[08:37] <AndorinKato> tweaker25: Ubuntu is actually a more resource-hungry distro because of its fancy GUI and desktop effects.
[08:37] <djiezes> AndorinKato: have you tried reconfiguring those shortcuts?
[08:37] <AndorinKato> So I'm not really sure what you're asking about.
[08:38] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I have; I've tried assigning the functions to different keys, and those don't work either. Hence, not hardware issue.
[08:38] <tweaker25> AndorinKato some software need a little more on linux than on windows, the softwares need more tweaking or what ?
[08:39] <kraut> moin
[08:40] <djiezes> AndorinKato: just this session, or also after other reboots?
[08:40] <Slemming> Hi, any word on when firefox will be updated in repo to 3.5?
[08:40] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I tried it a while back... want me to again just to be sure?
[08:40] <djiezes> AndorinKato: you're saying rebooting didn't fix the issue?
[08:41] <sultan> I tried you mama
[08:41] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Indeed.
[08:41] <Alumin> well, I tried "modprobe psmouse synaptics_resume_reset=N" but still no dice...works for about a second then dies again
[08:41] <djiezes> AndorinKato: hm ... i'm running out of ideas ... sorry
[08:41] <Jimmio> Hello all. How do I use gnome-session-save? It's not working at all... but the --logout parameter works >_>
[08:41] <AndorinKato> That's okay, thanks anyway. :)
[08:42] <AndorinKato> Can anyone offer advice on nonfunctioning multimedia keys?
[08:42] <djiezes> AndorinKato: maybe another application is preventing the use of your keyboard shortcuts. ... but that's just a guess
[08:42] <Slemming> AndorinKato: do they generate an event?
[08:42] <Alumin> anybody know where I can edit my Xorg configuration now?  This new idea of "we don't need xorg.conf, everything's auto-detected" is fine and dandy until something breaks and you need to tweak one thing :)
[08:43] <Slemming> run xev, press multimedia keys, see if something changes in console
[08:43] <Slemming> (run xev from a terminal)
[08:43] <AndorinKato> Yes.
[08:43] <niarbeht> AndorinKato: as in, you press it at the console (the real one, not a term inside X) and no random-seeming gibberish spits out?
[08:43] <AndorinKato> Slemming: They do. I know it's not a hardware issue because of that, and because I've tried changing the keys of the shortcut.
[08:43] <niarbeht> Alumin: are you talking about messing w/ input device configuration?
[08:43] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Where are you trying to bind the keys?
[08:44] <AndorinKato> Er... bind meaning?
[08:44] <Slemming> assigning shortcuts
[08:44] <jschiff> Alumin: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:44] <Alumin> niarbeht: yeah, I think there was an Xorg update recently that borked my (synaptics) touchpad
[08:44] <Alumin> jschiff: that's where I would expect to find it, yeah
[08:44] <niarbeht> Alumin: Oh, JOY.  To xorg-server 1.5, I'm guessing?  Lemme look up where the hal stuff is on my gentoo install...
[08:45] <AndorinKato> Uh... well, for example, I'm trying to assign Fn+Home (on a laptop) to XF86AudioPlay. Is that the sort of answer you're looking for?
[08:45] <hossam> hello, i am trying to enable multiple backgrounds for my workspaces and tried to follow this tutorial http://anuragbansal.wordpress.com/2008/05/10/how-to-get-different-wallpapers-on-each-workspace-in-ubuntu/
[08:45] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Aren't those hardwired?
[08:45] <jschiff> Alumin: you try a "mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf{,.bak}" then a "Xorg -configure" and using that config?
[08:45] <niarbeht> Alumin: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/47-some-logical-policy-name.fdi
[08:45] <hossam> but now compiz cube doesnt have the background option since ubuntu 9.04
[08:45] <Slemming> as in "does the fn key alone generate an event?"
[08:46] <hossam> is there anythign i can do to get this background feature back?
[08:46] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It does not.
[08:46] <Alumin> jschiff: my point is that there is no xorg.conf there now...but I'll try the -configure, one sec
[08:46] <Verlex> have a good morning to all people in chatt
[08:46] <Alumin> niarbeht: lemme see what I have in there
[08:46] <niarbeht> Alumin: what you'll wanna do is find a HAL policy file for a synaptics touchpad, and add/tweak options as appropriate.
[08:46] <Slemming> AndorinKato: And you want fn+home to be assigned to XF86AudioPlay?
[08:46] <AndorinKato> But other Fn functions work, like shutting off the screen. My multimedia keys and mute are the only ones that don't work.
[08:46] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Indeed, that's where it normally is.
[08:46] <Slemming> what does fn+home generate now?
[08:46] <AndorinKato> Nothing.,
[08:46] <niarbeht> Alumin: Mine is under /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi, I can pastebin the contents for you if you want.
[08:47] <Slemming> AndorinKato: And that's your hardware issure
[08:47] <jschiff> Alumin: "Xorg -configure" then "mv /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[08:47] <Slemming> issue*
[08:47] <Alumin> niarbeht: by the way I already followed the instructions on this page:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[08:47] <jschiff> as root of course
[08:47] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Are you sure? If I assign XF86AudioPlay to another key (say Insert), it still doesn't work.
[08:48] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Okay, maybe I misunderstood your question earlier... apologies.
[08:48] <AndorinKato> I'm still rather new to this. ^^;
[08:48] <sf_thailand_haii> ubuntu
[08:49] <Slemming> AndorinKato: I'm not sure about that part (remapping a key to another)
[08:49] <niarbeht> Alumin: well, those seem rather decent.  If you've updated to xorg-server 1.5 as your X server, then you'll need to edit a HAL policy file rather than the xorg.conf file.
[08:49] <hossam> anyone know how to have multiple desktops for your workspaces in ubuntu 9.04?
[08:49] <Slemming> but if the OS doesn't detect that fn+home is being pressed, it sounds hard to use that as bindings
[08:49] <Slemming> still, it's possible that I'm wrong
[08:49] <vl> Sorry if this is a FAQ, but since a kernel update this morning (German time) my windows kvm virtual machine does not boot anymore.
[08:50] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's what makes me think it's a software thing... plus the fact that they stopped working, like, right after I installed a handful of updates. Also, xev deects Fn+Home, but not Fn alone.
[08:50] <vl> Is that a known issue?
[08:50] <vl> Running 9.04
[08:50] <FilthyRat> fag
[08:50] <Alumin> niarbeht: I think my package versions are on a different track from yours, mine is 1:7.4~5ubuntu1
[08:50] <Alumin> ie the Jaunty version
[08:50] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Ah, so it does detect fn+home?
[08:50] <superlinux> i have tutorial videos that i made . They are about debian installation.  they are on my server. www.superlinux.net. just click the links. discard the Arabic. videos are in arabic and english at the same time. I hope you download them. they are FREE!
[08:50] <djiezes> AndorinKato: i don't get it, what's the point of mapping a multimediakey to insert for example. What I do (in amarok for example) is binding 'Next Track' to XF86Forward. That works ...
[08:50] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Not a hardware issue then, probably
[08:50] <sf_thailand_haii> #join a2
[08:51] <Slemming> djiezes: I'm thinking other way around, so that insert would be xf86home
[08:51] <jschiff> sf_thailand_haii: "/join #a2"
[08:51] <AndorinKato> djiezes: It was to test whether or not the Fn+Home function was physically broken somehow... which can't be the case since both keys still work.
[08:51] <roxie> how do i install java runtime environment on ubuntu netbook remix
[08:51] <Slemming> AndorinKato: It's not broken if it generates a xev event
[08:51] <jschiff> roxie: apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[08:51] <djiezes> Slemming , AndorinKato : okay, it was a test, now i got it :)
[08:51] <roxie> thankyou
[08:51] <AndorinKato> Either way, Insert was just a temporary test; I changed it back. My media player is Songbird 1.2, with the plugin that allows for multimedia key use. The same software that's on my PC, where multimedia keys /do/ work.
[08:51] <Alumin> niarbeht: I think copying your HAL config file is probably my best bet at this point; if you don't mind putting yours online I'll gladly snipe it :)
[08:51] <djiezes> AndorinKato: is it in gnome settings only that it doesnt work, or are you trying a specific application?
[08:52] <roxie> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[08:52] <roxie> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[08:52] <Flannel> roxie: Prefix it with sudo
[08:52] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I tested it in Songbird and in Amarok.
[08:52] <u_dparte> roxie, sudo
[08:52] <niarbeht> Alumin: yeah, that version number you quoted was the xorg-x11 front, not the xorg-server version.  I think post-7.3 uses xorg-server 1.5, so you do need to use HAL policies.
[08:52] <jschiff> ubuntus sudo paradigm is annoying
[08:52] <niarbeht> Alumin: just a sec
[08:52] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and in Amarok, in 'Global Shortcuts' ?
[08:52] <Slemming> roxie: You can't install stuff when you
[08:52] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I'll check real quick just to make sure it's assigned.
[08:53] <roxie> k
[08:53] <roxie> ty
[08:53] <Slemming> roxie: are not admin, that's why it needs sudo
[08:53] <AndorinKato> I can't remember whether I've used Amarok before on this computer.
[08:53] <Alumin> jschiff: I tried the "Xorg -configure" deal and when I launch with that config I just get a black screen and an error saying "get fences failed: -1"
[08:53] <jschiff> never heard that error before
[08:53] <Alumin> I have to go back to the invoking terminal and Ctrl-C, it doesn't respond to ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:53] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Where do you map "fn+home" to XF86Home?
[08:53] <jschiff> Well you can thank ubuntu for ctrl-alt-backspace not working
[08:53] <niarbeht> Alumin: I'd also recommend reading the man page for the synaptics driver once you write out my policy file and restart X
[08:53] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nope, it doesn't work in Amarok either.
[08:54] <Jordan_U> jschiff: Well, actually upstream Xorg :)
[08:54] <AndorinKato> Slemming: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts
[08:54] <jschiff> you can put Option "dontzap" in your server config in Xorg
[08:54] <jschiff> to bypass that
[08:54] <Slemming> AndorinKato: that doesn't remap a key to another?
[08:54] <Flannel> !dontzap | Alumin, jschiff
[08:54] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It remaps functions to different keys, doesn't it?
[08:54] <jschiff> flannel that's a stupid way of doin it
[08:54] <roxie> mozilla 3.5 is not recognizing the java plugin i guess
[08:54] <r_a_f> ello -- I need Live CD working on 250 MB RAM and usb support - any suggestions PLS ?
[08:54] <jschiff> why install stuff to remove functionality that's disabled
[08:54] <niarbeht> Alumin: That way, you can customize it.  Btw, if your pad supports two- and three-finger actions, this policy file does two-finger scrolling (up-down and left-right), as well as two-finger-tap middle-click and three-finger-tap right-click =D    http://pastebin.ca/1481634
[08:55] <jschiff> when you can just toggle a Xorg option
[08:55] <Slemming> AndorinKato: yes, which function are you binding to fn+home?
[08:55] <Flannel> jschiff: Installing a package is much easier than manually configuring anything.
[08:55] <Jordan_U> roxie: How did you install firefox 3.5
[08:55] <jschiff> not really >_<
[08:55] <Flannel> jschiff: If you'd like to discuss this further, I'd be happy to do so in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it's not appropriate for here.
[08:55] <Slemming> "action"
[08:55] <AndorinKato> XF86AudioPlay.
[08:55] <Alumin> Flannel: not for everone :)
[08:55] <roxie> go to ubuntumini.com
[08:55] <jschiff> i'd hardly call editing a file manually configuring.. lol
[08:55] <Alumin> niarbeht: thanks :)
[08:55] <jschiff> people make xorg.conf out to be this big scary beast, but it's really not all that bad
[08:55] <niarbeht> r_a_f: DSL?  Damn Small Linux?  There might be one by them.....
[08:55] <roxie> http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/06/install-firefox-35.html
[08:56] <Slemming> Jordan_U: you could install firefox-3.5 from repo, though it's not up to date
[08:56] <niarbeht> jschiff: nope, it isn't, it's just messy sometimes.
[08:56] <jschiff> and it's good to get users familiar with it
[08:56] <jschiff> so they don't become dependent on ubuntu's automagic configurator
[08:56] <Flannel> jschiff: again, discussions (and rants, etc) belong in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.  Thanks
[08:56] <niarbeht> Alumin: please do tell if it works.  And remember you'll need to completely restart X first...
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Slemming: I am asking how he did it to help debug his problem
[08:57] <roxie> Jordan_U: http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/06/install-firefox-35.html
[08:57] <AndorinKato> Slemming: XF86AudioPlay... not sure if you saw that message.
[08:57] <Slemming> Jordan_U: Sorry, missed that
[08:57] <Slemming> AndorinKato: XF86Home isn't listed as an action to me?
[08:57] <niarbeht> Alumin: also, the left/right two-finger drag may cause a back or forward action in Opera instead of scrolling.  Stupid Opera L/
[08:58] <r_a_f> niarbeht:THANKS :)
[08:58] <AndorinKato> Slemming: XF86Home? Where did you get that?
[08:58] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Obviously didn't, sorry, mixed that up
[08:59] <matib> is there someone ?
[08:59] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Still, XF86AudioPlay is listed as a shortcut, not an action
[08:59] <niarbeht> r_a_f: did you find what you were looking for?
[08:59] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's okay, but I might have mixed something up too... like, it looks like the system detects that FN+home is AudioPlay, it's just not letting it execute.
[08:59] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Does fn+home generate a XF86AudioPlay event?
[08:59] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Yeah, sorry, I confused that. Um, I'll check now..
[08:59] <roxie> how do i change my default web  browser on ubuntu netbook remix?
[09:00] <r_a_f> niarbeht: yo - i try DSLinux on old hardware ;)
[09:00] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Try setting XF86AudioPlay (fn+home) to open a Terminal
[09:00] <Slemming> then see if fn+home opens a terminal
[09:00] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Yes, I believe so. The resulting output includes XF86AudioPlay. And yes, I will.
[09:01] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It opened.
[09:01] <Slemming> AndorinKato: So the key works, and also does binding it
[09:01] <Slemming> what functionality did you want out of fn+home?
[09:01] <djiezes> AndorinKato: Slemming : i'm trying it too, the XF86AudioPlay doesn't work either, but other keys like XF86Forward & XF86Back do work ...
[09:02] <niarbeht> r_a_f: I once ran Gentoo on a Pentium II w/ 384mb of RAM.  Compiles took forever... but it was a router, so it did alright.  Except for the bad hardware.
[09:02] <AndorinKato> Slemming: To play a track if one isn't playing, or to pause a currently playing track. So play/pause.
[09:02] <michelleIL> are there any other chanels except this one?
[09:03] <AndorinKato> djiezes: None of mine work- play/pause, stop, forward, back. Oh, and my mute function is out.
[09:03] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Are you sure that your music player recognises play/pause?
[09:03] <niarbeht> michelleIL: #freebsd ?
[09:03] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's worked before, like I said, so I'm pretty sure it does.
[09:03] <niarbeht> michelleIL: sorry, bad joke.
[09:03] <Slemming> djiezes: Do you know if amarok listens to play or pause?
[09:04] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It does, because I've used it before.
[09:04] <Slemming> gnome's play or pause
[09:04] <Alumin> niarbeht: I'm pretty sure gdm restarts X when you log out, but I'm gonna go ahead and just reboot just to be sure
[09:04] <AndorinKato> I just don't use Amarok normally. I find it to be not-particularly-user-friendly. Plus not including .mp3 support by default is a little annoying.
[09:04] <Alumin> nope, no dice
[09:05] <djiezes> Slemming: i'm using Amarok14, and it doesn't react to my XF86AudioPlay. I do know amarok has a play/pauze button in one.
[09:05] <Slemming> Alumin: ps aux | grep X, sudo kill -9 "that pid"
[09:05] <Alumin> I'm not entirely sure it's an Xorg issue, though
[09:05] <Alumin> Slemming: appreciate the thought, but you're answering the wrong question :)
[09:05] <Slemming> Alumin: Meant for forcing a X restart :)
[09:05] <Slemming> Alumin: ah sorry
[09:06] <Slemming> Alumin: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[09:06] <r_a_f>  niarbeht: i need to do copy from an old 240 ram computer - so need usb support for pendrive
[09:06] <Alumin> Slemming: yeah, but I'm lazy and this netbook restarts really fast :P
[09:06] <Slemming> I'm not sure if that should be done from within the running session
[09:06] <djiezes> AndorinKato: it's weird, overhere it's the only key not working, the rest works as it should
[09:06] <Slemming> Alumin: right :)
[09:06] <kujiu> hello
[09:06] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Running Jaunty?
[09:06] <niarbeht> Alumin: to my knowledge, you can set that option somewhere.  GDM in gentoo defaults to not restarting X, but I have no idea about ubuntu.
[09:06] <djiezes> AndorinKato: yep, 64bit though
[09:07] <Alumin> niarbeht: the interesting thing is that the touchpad does work for about 1 second if I remove and re-insert the "psmouse" module
[09:07] <niarbeht> Alumin: O.o
[09:07] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Check inside Amarok -> Settings -> Configure global Shortcuts
[09:07] <Alumin> I did mention that before, but I don't think you were watching the channel yet
[09:08] <boiboite> bon matin !!!
[09:08] <Alumin> so I checked /var/log/(dmesg|messages|syslog), but I don't see any errors
[09:08] <boiboite> dites, j'ai besoin au démarrage de la machine d'ajouter un vairable d'environnement ?
[09:08] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Did, and I had to assign it, but once I did it still didn't work. Will double-check.
[09:08] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Assigned to XF86AudioPlay?
[09:08] <Caleb_> With my ubuntu it says it has like 600 updates.When i go to see, everything is ticked.How do i untick everything so i can tick what i want? Manually unticking every update would take AGES
[09:09] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It calls it "Media Play" in Amarok
[09:09] <niarbeht> Hey, boiboite wants to know how to add an environment variable methinks.
[09:09] <Jordan_U> Caleb_: Use synaptic or apt-get instead, but make sure you install all security updates at least :)
[09:10] <Slemming> Caleb_: Not sure if this is how to do it, don't have an uninstalled update to try, but I'd try synaptic
[09:10] <Alumin> /etc/profile hehe
[09:10] <Caleb_> Ok, i got the lts
[09:10] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[09:10] <ziroday> Caleb_: select the top package, hold shift go down to the bottom, select the bottom package and then untick. Did that work?
[09:10] <djiezes> AndorinKato: i got it working !
[09:10] <Slemming> Caleb_: Actually I'd rather go with apt-get
[09:10] <Caleb_> Ok
[09:10] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Oh boy, what's the process?
[09:11] <djiezes> AndorinKato: in amarok14 that is. I deleted the XF86AudioPlay shortcut. used the primary one (Win+C) then reconfigured the XF86AudioPlay one
[09:11] <Alumin> niarbeht: thanks for the config file anyway though, once I get this stupid touchpad working again it'll be nice to tweak the options
[09:11] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and that did the trick overhere
[09:11] <AndorinKato> djiezes: K, I'll try it.
[09:11] <Alumin> the ironic part is, I !@#$% hate touchpads
[09:11] <salil__> is it possible to extend my root partition?
[09:11] <Caleb_> When i get adsl2+(Oh yeaaa) I can install them all
[09:11] <Slemming> Caleb_: sudo apt-get install *that package you wanted to upgrade*
[09:11] <Alumin> if they made a netbook-sized device with a trackpoint I would drop-kick this thing :)
[09:11] <djiezes> AndorinKato: all in 'Global Shortcuts', Amarok itself ...
[09:11] <Caleb_> Ah ok
[09:11] <AndorinKato> Right...
[09:12] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nope, didn't fix it.
[09:12] <Alumin> salil__: if it's on LVM then yeah
[09:12] <Jordan_U> salil__: What do you mean by expand? If you have free space on the disk you can use a liveCD to expand the partition.
[09:12] <Caleb_> Netbooks are...Dodgy
[09:12] <salil__> Jordan_U, Yes.. answered...
[09:12] <Alumin> Caleb_: I guess...mine's been a trooper until this mouse issue
[09:12] <djiezes> AndorinKato: I might have reconfigured the key first in gnome settings too ...
[09:13] <Alumin> well, except for the fact that it has a ***** trackpad :D
[09:13] <djiezes> AndorinKato: do you use Amarok2, or Amarok14?
[09:13] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I've already done that, with the Insert thing.
[09:13] <machinebacon> !ff3.5
[09:13] <Alumin> did I mention I don't like trackpads?
[09:13] <AndorinKato> djiezes: 2.0.2.
[09:13] <Slemming> AndorinKato: did it not listen to insert as pause/play?
[09:13] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Nope, it did not.
[09:13] <niarbeht> Alumin: I've no idea why it's not working :/
[09:13] <djiezes> AndorinKato: Oh, i use 1.4, maybe that makes a difference
[09:13] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Does it listen to any other shortcut?
[09:13] <Alumin> niarbeht: yeah, I don't think it's an X issue
[09:14] <Caleb_> Notebooks on the other hands are great.I also dont use the ******* trackpad i use a notebook mouse
[09:14] <Slemming> djiezes: Possibly, he mentioned it was working before
[09:14] <niarbeht> Alumin: Lenovo might (they inherited the Thinkpad series...)
[09:14] <Alumin> niarbeht: the mouse doesn't work in console either
[09:14] <Slemming> Alumin: Probably isn't
[09:14] <AndorinKato> Slemming: For any other function, you mean? Or do you mean if I were to reassign it to another different key combination?
[09:14] <Caleb_> Sorry i type slow on ipod touch
[09:14] <Slemming> Alumin: driver/driver settings I'd think
[09:14] <djiezes> AndorinKato: overhere there's a primary & alternative shortcut. primary i Win+C, i used that before I reconfigured XF86audioplay as alternative binding.
[09:14] <djiezes> (just to see if it worked, and it did)
[09:14] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Try assigning Enter to "play/pause"
[09:14] <Slemming> then try assigning it to say Forward
[09:15] <Cosmo1> I am having a problem one is that my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this?
[09:15] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It might not let me but I'll try
[09:15] <Slemming> Cosmo1: Do you have a bind to change layout that you're not aware of?
[09:15] <AndorinKato> Yeah, had to use Ctrl+Enter
[09:15] <Caleb_> Dvorak is really odd
[09:15] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Annnnd it does not work.
[09:15] <djiezes> Now i'm puzzled as to how i got it working ... & why the same procedure doesn't do it for AndorinKato
[09:16] <Boohbah> !ot
[09:16] <Slemming> AndorinKato: ctrl+enter shouldn't be picked up by the system, so obviously global keybinds does not work for amarok2
[09:16] <Alumin> holy cow it is way past my bedtime
[09:16] <Caleb_> You choose the layout in the installation prcess
[09:16] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I've been setting the shortcut to the global commands, not the alternate
[09:16] <Cosmo1> Slemming: not that I know of, and it keeps doing it at random times
[09:16] <umar> i can open a readonly file like "sudo vim filename" and edit it. how can i make text editors like 'gedit' 'eclipse' etc edit read-only files?
[09:16] <Slemming> Caleb_: Can change it too
[09:16]  * Alumin shakes his fist in the air at the trackpad
[09:16] <AndorinKato> Slemming: I tested Ctrl+Enter with Songbird
[09:16] <Slemming> Cosmo1: Are you positive it's random?
[09:16] <Caleb_> Yea
[09:16] <MooKow> lol, it's way past my bedtime too
[09:16] <Slemming> AndorinKato: test xf86playaudio with songbird rather
[09:16] <MooKow> going tos leep soon ^.^
[09:16] <djiezes> AndorinKato: oh, i've got the multimedia keys as alternate, maybe try the same.
[09:17] <AndorinKato> djiezes: K
[09:17] <Alumin> thanks a lot for the help with this, guys (even though it's still not working hehe)
[09:17] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and check if the primary key (win+c) works
[09:17] <umar> the above probelm prevents me from using eclipse on a project that is readonly. i wasn to edit it without changing permissions
[09:17] <Alumin> I have a USB mouse that works fine, so it's not epic fail at the moment
[09:17] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nope, still doesn't work.
[09:17] <djiezes> AndorinKato: what about the primary keybinding?
[09:17] <Caleb_> Cosmo1:Dvorak is something you cant pronounce.Qwerty is easily pronouncible
[09:17] <AndorinKato> djiezes: My primary is Space, which DOES work.
[09:18] <Alumin> my primary uses for the netbook are remote administration with SSH, and lounging on the couch playing nethack...neither of which require a mouse
[09:18] <Cosmo1> yes Caleb_ but dvorak is better
[09:18] <djiezes> AndorinKato: and you've got the xf86audioplay binded in gnome settings shortcuts as play/pauze too?
[09:18] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Yeppers
[09:18] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Though that's not the same?
[09:18] <Alumin> so it's not so bad...and I won't have to worry about the **** touchpad messing with my window focus while I'm typing YAY lol
[09:19] <djiezes> AndorinKato: then you've got the same settings as i do, except you have amarok2, i got 1.4
[09:19] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Your regular key works, it's the global bindings that are the problem?
[09:19] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Seems that way to me.
[09:20] <djiezes> AndorinKato: set it both in 'global shortcuts' and 'shortcuts'
[09:20] <djiezes> (or does amarok2 not have those 2 options?)
[09:20] <Guest13632> Is there an online software repository but like a webpage, not sudo-aptitude-get-program?
[09:20] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I can't, it only lets me assign XF8PlayAudio in one area at a time in Amarok
[09:20] <Flannel> Guest13632: to browse?
[09:21] <Guest13632> /nick PooIsYum
[09:21] <Guest13632> Ya
[09:21] <djiezes> AndorinKato: are you sure? I've got it in both.
[09:21] <Flannel> Guest13632: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <susbwoy> Hi, what program can I use to measure write performance on my harddrive?
[09:21] <djiezes> susbwoy: hddparm
[09:21] <Guest13632> http:packages.ubuntu.com
[09:21] <Guest13632> right?
[09:21] <susbwoy> djiezes: cheers
[09:21] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I'm sure, I just tried it again.
[09:22] <djiezes> AndorinKato: I'm starting to think it might be an amarok2 issue?
[09:22] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Except that it also doesn't work in Songbird.
[09:23] <djiezes> AndorinKato: maybe they both have issues? have you tried other apps, like rhythmbox or something?
[09:23] <AndorinKato> djiezes: I will now.
[09:23] <Glowball> Hi
[09:23] <AndorinKato> djiezes: Nothing.
[09:23] <Glowball> I can find my shared Ubuntu files on my Windows machine, so Samba seems to be working fine, but where can I find them the other way round?
[09:23] <Slemming> AndorinKato: I wouldn't depend on songbird catching that
[09:23] <AndorinKato> Not from any of the keys.
[09:24] <thefeds> Can I make a USB installer with an Imation Cool USB flash drive?
[09:24] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Songbird normally /does/ work with the keys, though, since it's my primary media player on both computers; I just need to install a plugin for it to work
[09:24] <thefeds> !usb
[09:24] <ziroday> thefeds: should do
[09:24] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Btw, does this involve an update to the systems with components that haven't been restarted?
[09:24] <AndorinKato> Slemming: I don't know, how would I check that?
[09:25] <djiezes> AndorinKato: sry, now I'm really starting to run out of ideas. Only thing I can say is that I got it working after some fiddling. So: fiddle ... (?)
[09:25] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Also remember that these keys stopped working right after updating my system
[09:25] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Have you rebooted the computer since the problem came up?
[09:25] <Slemming> since the update*
[09:25] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Yes, I've shut it down and powered it back up multiple times; the update was a few weeks ago.
[09:25] <wisler> hi anyone
[09:25] <u_dparte> wisler, hi
[09:26] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Obviously not the problem then
[09:26] <wisler> i have a problem compiling samba3.3.6 for ubuntu can anyone help me?
[09:26] <AndorinKato> M'k
[09:26] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Getting 'desperate
[09:26] <Slemming> 'desperate'*
[09:26] <ziroday> wisler: what's wrong with 3.3.2?
[09:27] <ehsh> is there any program like google earth for Ubuntu?
[09:27] <indus> is firefox 3.5 a backport
[09:27] <Slemming> try running amarok2 from a terminal
[09:27] <thefeds> ziroday: it has an encrypted section of the USB
[09:27] <indus> hmm probably no since the newer ubuntu hasntbeen released
[09:27] <thyri> !AAI .g amarok
[09:27] <Slemming> and see if it says something interesting
[09:27] <u_dparte> indus, it's not release in the repos yet
[09:27] <AndorinKato> Slemming: If it comes to it I can always reinstall Ubuntu; I did that the other day with my PC, updated it and the keys work.
[09:27] <u_dparte> indus, i think you can get it from proposed repos though
[09:27] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Try sudo apt-get purge amarok
[09:27] <Slemming> then reinstall amarok
[09:27] <Slemming> first
[09:27] <Slemming> rather than reinstalling the OS
[09:28] <ziroday> thefeds: well as long as there is enough blank unpartitioned space for the usb creator to work
[09:28] <indus> u_dparte: hmm its in the regular repos in beta, so i hear it will be upgraded to final
[09:28] <indus> too many repos
[09:28] <AndorinKato> M'k
[09:28] <Slemming> indus: 3.5v4 is in repo
[09:28] <ehsh> is there any program like google earth for Ubuntu?
[09:28] <thefeds> Doesn't the OS need the first block of the USB to boot it
[09:28] <thyri> !ehsh .g ubuntu google earth
[09:28] <wisler> my pdc dont work
[09:28] <wisler> by login in all is ok
[09:28] <wisler>  wisler: but by logging out it cant renew the profile
[09:28] <thefeds> I think the first block is part of the encrypted part
[09:29] <Jordan_U> ehsh: There's google earth :)
[09:29] <thyri> .g ubuntu google earth
[09:29] <AAAI> thyri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth
[09:29] <djiezes> ehsh: there's: google earth :-)
[09:29] <Thingymebob> ehsh: iGoogle earth is in medibuntu repos
[09:29] <thefeds> I.E the OS can't read the part where ubuntu starts
[09:29] <thefeds> Isn't that right?
[09:29] <u_dparte> indus, yeah i had the beta and just last night one of my repos caught the actual release
[09:29] <djiezes> ehsh: it's in the medibuntu repository
[09:29] <Thingymebob> !medibuntu : ehsh
[09:29] <Slemming> ehsh: Google Earth or Marble is what wikipedia lists
[09:29] <Thingymebob> !medibuntu | ehsh
[09:29] <indus> u_dparte: hmm really>? proposed? or normal?
[09:30] <thyri> .g ubuntu dvd
[09:30] <AAAI> thyri: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[09:30] <u_dparte> indus, tbo honest not sure ... I have proposed plus several others from installs ... I believe it came from proposed
[09:30] <ehsh> i ont understand nothing
[09:30] <u_dparte> lemme check
[09:31] <AndorinKato> Slemming: It's not letting me run any sudo commands, it says another process is using the administration directory... I'm going to reboot, brb
[09:31] <Slemming> u_dparte: Are you having any non-regular repos? Because apt-get update && apt-get install firefox-3.5 doesn't give me the latest
[09:31] <Slemming> AndorinKato: close synaptic
[09:31] <u_dparte> Slemming, yes I have some no standard repos
[09:31] <u_dparte> i'm looking to see which one it came from
[09:32] <indus> is opera in the repos?
[09:32] <indus> like third party or something , is that called partner
[09:32] <Slemming> Btw: Why does firefox-3.5 as a package depend essentially on firefox-3.0?
[09:32] <lesshaste> I've remove the /var/cache/debconf directory by mistake, how can I restore it? It makes apt-get install unhappy
[09:32] <thyri> .wik ubuntu opera
[09:32] <AAAI> "What programming tools does Ubuntu have?--71.185.140.19 (talk) 01:46, 11 June 2008 (UTC)" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Computing/2008_June_11
[09:33] <thyri> .g ubuntu opera
[09:33] <AAAI> thyri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[09:33] <Slemming> lesshaste: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf
[09:33] <Thingymebob> ehsh: What don't you understand?
[09:33] <u_dparte> Slemming, indus : #deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:33] <lesshaste> Slemming: that gives ebconf: DbDriver "config": could not open /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[09:34] <Slemming> u_dparte: :) obviously
[09:34] <u_dparte> Slemming, indus : #deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:34] <lesshaste> Slemming: well.. debconf...
[09:34] <Slemming> are you getting ubufox icons or?
[09:34] <indus> u_dparte: thanks
[09:34] <u_dparte> works fine for me
[09:34] <ehsh> so linux is open source,how can i see the source,how can u change the source ?
[09:34] <u_dparte> i have the latest and haven't had any issues with it
[09:34] <lesshaste> ehsh: join #linux
[09:34] <johnibanez> Hello, I'm a Windows user and I'm planning to move to Ubuntu.
[09:34] <Thingymebob> ehsh: download the source packages
[09:34] <lesshaste> Slemming: can I just reinstall it somehow?
[09:35] <indus> ziroday: i installed ff 3.5 from mozilla but it wont run :)
[09:35] <Slemming> indus: run it from a terminal, does its output say anything?
[09:36] <indus> Slemming: ya trying now
[09:36] <Slemming> lesshaste: I'd presume apt-get install --reinstall debconf doesn't work
[09:36] <AndorinKato> Slemming: No good, I purged and reinstalled it and it still insists on not working, and I ought to point out that the ubuntu-restricted-extras package also isn't letting me play my .mp3s in Amarok
[09:36] <indus> Slemming: which exe should i run iam thinking
[09:36] <Thingymebob> ehsh: sudo apt-get source packagename
[09:36] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Meaning, it should, but it isn't.
[09:36] <indus> Slemming: run mozilla.sh? or firefox-bin
[09:37] <Thingymebob> will put the source package in you current directory
[09:37] <wisler> anyone help me to compile samba-3.3.6 for ubuntu 9.04????????????
[09:37] <Slemming> indus: I'd say firefox-3.5
[09:37] <indus> Slemming: error when loading shared libraries libxul
[09:37] <Jordan_U> Slemming: firefox-3.5 doesn't depend on firefox-3
[09:37] <indus> Slemming: even though its there in the ff folder
[09:37] <bright4_chris> Anyone know how to automatically run a custom script on insertion of a CD on an Ubuntu install without GUI ?
[09:37] <ehsh> E: Unable to find a source package for packagename
[09:38] <jeniffer> hello friends. I have a question: How can i make the HDD temperature to go down a little bit. In ubuntu, the HDD temperature is a lot higher than in windows.... is it possible to reduce it under linux???????????
[09:38] <Slemming> indus: sudo apt-get install xulrunner-1.9.1
[09:38] <u_dparte> ehsh, google around till you find the actual command
[09:38] <AndorinKato> jeniffer: Is your drive getting adequate ventilation and cooling from the fans?
[09:38] <Slemming> indus: I think, that's one of the dependancies my firefox 3.5v4 has
[09:38] <indus> Slemming: oops iam on hardy
[09:39] <wisler> anyone help me to compile samba-3.3.6 for ubuntu 9.04????????????
[09:39] <u_dparte> firefox-3.5 firefox-3.5-branding xulrunner-1.9.1
[09:39] <AndorinKato> AndorinKato: Do I even know what I'm talking about?
[09:39] <Jordan_U> wisler: Why not use the packaged samba?
[09:39] <jeniffer> AndorinKato exactly the same when i have booted windows....
[09:39] <indus> Slemming: but the thing is, mozilla binaries come with their own version of xul i believe and it loads it from same directory
[09:39] <psycolizard> wow, lotsa people. I got the error of "BIOS does not provide ACPI _PSS objects in a way linux understands" can someone please tell me what that means and how to fix?
[09:39] <wisler> because it dont work
[09:39] <Thingymebob> ehsh: Replace packagename with the name of whichever package you want the source for e.g gedit gnome-terminal etc
[09:40] <wisler> i have done as it is discribted in the wiki but it didnt work
[09:40] <AndorinKato> Slemming: I think I may just end up wiping and reinstalling, it's not a tall order for me to xfer a few hundred music tracks and some miscellaneous files to the laptop with Giver after a reinstall
[09:40] <Jordan_U> wisler: In what way, and why do you think that it will work if you compile from source?
[09:40] <Anirban1987>  How can I set my personal web hosting Control panel on a different port than port 80 like CPanel is in port 2082 ?
[09:40] <Slemming> Jordan_U: The following extra packages will be installed: firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding firefox-3.5-branding ubufox
[09:40] <lesshaste> I reinstalled debconf, now I get these errors when doing a kernel upgrade in ubuntu
[09:40] <lesshaste> http://pastebin.ca/1481676
[09:40] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, that depends on your server configuration
[09:41] <Jordan_U> Slemming: firefox-3.5 *recommends* ubufox, which depends on firefox-3.0 ( which is understandable but still a bug )
[09:41] <Lord-Readman> Hello, I am trying to get a webserver working, I followed the how to forge perfect server 9.04 but didnt install ISPconfig2, I can get one domain working on the server, but I cant seem to create a vertualhost for another domain to point to a different folder, i.e. i set it to /home/mysite/ and it still loads from /var/www/ and says IT WORKS! and I have restarted.
[09:41] <Anirban1987> u_dparte : Mine is Ubuntu 9.04 server 32 bit. How to set it up like that ?
[09:41] <johnibanez> Hello, I'm a Windows user and I'm planning to move to Ubuntu. I'm a freelance web developer and I use Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Flash and other Adobe products. I have the CS3 Masterpack. My question is would these programs work well with Ubuntu and wine? And would I be able to run multiple simultaneous programs with Wine?
[09:41] <Jordan_U> Slemming: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 --no-install-recommends
[09:42] <Slemming> Jordan_U: that was apt-get install firefox-3.5 only
[09:42] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, you will need to set your http config to listen on those ports I believe on ubuntu their is a file called ports.conf
[09:42] <h4f> hi all
[09:42] <Jordan_U> johnibanez: No to the first( only CS2 ), yes to the second
[09:42] <sagemode> johnibanez: All of the is not 100% working but alternatives are all great
[09:42] <ziroday> johnibanez: most of those applications don't work well with wine unfortunately. However you can use a windows virtual machine and run all those applications, or use linux alternatives to those applications
[09:42] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, I'm not positive though b/c I only use redhat for web server and the configs are different
[09:42] <Jordan_U> Slemming: I know
[09:43] <moncky> johnibanez: for compatibility and wine have a look at the winehq site, to your final point, yes you can run multiple programmes
[09:43] <djiezes> johnibanez: no, CS3 does not work with wine under linux/ubuntu.
[09:43] <sagemode> johnibanez: I giveup adobe for gimp, and inkscape: and I work with neatbeans6.5
[09:43] <moncky> johnibanez: My question would be, why move a way from windows if your current software requires it?
[09:43] <wisler> i have compiled samba now the error message is error while loading shared libraries: litdb.so.1
[09:44] <Anirban1987> u-dparte : Actually I want the EHCP control panel to appear on http://xyz.com:2082/ like that
[09:44] <u_dparte> Anirban1987, do you have a 64bit processor?
[09:44] <psycolizard> sigh this is a nightmare, can someone who knows about BIOS issues pull me aside in a private message please?
[09:44] <Anirban1987> u_dparte : Its in a Virtual Machine
[09:44] <Jordan_U> johnibanez: Linux might not be a good choice for your needs yet, unless you want to run windows in a VM.
[09:44] <vcvg> hey, anybody know how to force 'make' to ignore error at a line?
[09:44] <sagemode> johnibanez: You can also use virtualbox seamless mode if you have kickus desktop... but that's not moving away from a window
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> Anyone here good with apache on ubuntu I really need some help
[09:45] <Daemon_> can someone help me with my monitor
[09:45] <sagemode> johnibanez: r u from phil..?
[09:45] <discorpia> i have a samsung syncmaster 2493hm, i'm running freshly installed 9.04, how do i get it to detect the monitor (currently set to a generic supporting maximum 1280x900, but can't find any way to change it)
[09:45] <moncky> Lord-Readman: just ask somone might know
[09:45] <Jordan_U> !anyone | Lord-Readman
[09:45] <u_dparte> Lord-Readman, what's your problem
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> i did ask
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> the chanel is moving very fast
[09:45] <discorpia> there doesn't seem to be any proper display/screen sections in xorg.conf nowadays either
[09:45] <Lord-Readman> Hello, I am trying to get a webserver working, I followed the how to forge perfect server 9.04 but didnt install ISPconfig2, I can get one domain working on the server, but I cant seem to create a vertualhost for another domain to point to a different folder, i.e. i set it to /home/mysite/ and it still loads from /var/www/ and says IT WORKS! and I have restarted.
[09:45] <thechef> How do I change the master password of my keyring?
[09:45] <FloodBot2> Lord-Readman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:46] <sagemode> johnibanez: r u from phil.. join #ubuntu-ph
[09:46] <Stdht> Could someone please help me
[09:46] <Stdht> I have in sound devices HDA intel alc268 (ALSA) , HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS),HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS), Alsa advanced linux sound architecture, OSS open sound system, PulsaeAudioServer
[09:46] <Stdht> why so many devices/// comparing to windows
[09:46] <u_dparte> apache people IM me I will try to help you but the chat is moving to fast
[09:46] <indus> Slemming: ok it runs but loads old firefox .
[09:46] <dutch> Hi can some one help please i dont seem to have the appearance icon so i can install new themes could any one help
[09:46] <ziroday> Stdht: ALSA and OSS are different soundsystems. I recommend you pick the first option
[09:47] <moncky> Lord-Readman: have a look at your httpd.conf there is a setting there that you neet to change so you can use /home dirs
[09:47] <Daemon_> how can i change my display refresh rate to 60hz?
[09:47] <johnibanez> @Jordan_U, sagemode, ziroday, djiezes: Thank you mates. @moncky, I got spotted by Team Philippines Anti Piracy team and some of my freelance mates.
[09:47] <indus> dutch: its in system>preferences>appearance no?
[09:47] <johnibanez> @sagemode : Yes I'm from the philippines. :D
[09:47] <ziroday> dutch: open a terminal and type in gnome-appearance-properties, does anything pop up?
[09:47] <Jordan_U> johnibanez: np
[09:47] <discorpia> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg gives nothing related to monitor selection, where am i supposed to change this??
[09:47] <Slemming> indus: doh
[09:48] <u_dparte> discorpia, nvidia?
[09:48] <indus> Slemming: yeah had this problem before, have to remove old ff profile probably
[09:48] <ziroday> Stdht: please don't PM. ALSA and OSS are both soundsystems and are seperate from each other. You should pick ALSA
[09:48] <Slemming> indus: mine migrated
[09:48] <dutch> yes it does when run in the ter
[09:48] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Gotta dostuff, good luck with your problem
[09:48] <Jordan_U> discorpia: System > Preferences > Display
[09:48] <Stdht> ziroday ok
[09:48] <discorpia> Jordan_U: yeah, as i said, i can't change monitor typ there and only have a few resolutions to choose from
[09:48] <ziroday> dutch: then its installed in your system :), it should be under System > Preferences > Appearance
[09:49] <AndorinKato> Slemming: Thank you for your help L)
[09:49] <AndorinKato> :)
[09:49] <sagemode> johnibanez: Yup Phil Anti Piracy is moving up these days
[09:49] <Stdht> ziroday so I have both installed,
[09:49] <Stdht> ?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> discorpia: What gfx card?
[09:49] <dutch> no its not there but that is perfect with the command thaanks
[09:49] <ziroday> Stdht: it would appear so but I'm not certain
[09:49] <Daemon_> how can i change my display refresh rate to 60hz?
[09:49] <sagemode> johnibanez: Join ubuntu-ph mate!
[09:49] <discorpia> should that matter since it's not my graphics card it's the monitor parameters i want to change? does gfx card matter?
[09:49] <Stdht> if I choose sound devices I see
[09:49] <indus> dutch: you can right click on main menu and add it then
[09:49] <racecar56> how do i get 3D working nicely on my ati radeon 9800 pro?
[09:49] <Stdht> HDA intel alc268 (ALSA) , HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS),HDA intel analog alc268 (OSS), Alsa advanced linux sound architecture, OSS open sound system, PulsaeAudioServer
[09:49] <discorpia> it's ati, but i haven't installed fglrx yet because when i tried to install it things got really slow and the xorg process kept going on 96%
[09:50] <ziroday> racecar56: it should work out of the box with the -ati driver
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, it sucks
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, bad
[09:50] <ziroday> racecar56: pardon?
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, it lags really bad
[09:50] <psycolizard> Can someone tell me what this means and how to fix it please? "BIOS does not provide ACPT _PSS objects in a way linux understands"
[09:50] <Slemming> AndorinKato: Glad I could... well... try .)
[09:50] <humbolt> are firefox 3.5 packages available for jaunty already? the final version and as full replacement for FF3.1 not as parallel install with extra preferences dir and the such?
[09:50] <Stdht> ziroday I can test all of them but only HDA Intel(alc268) do not work
[09:50] <ziroday> racecar56: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please
[09:50] <racecar56> ziroday, k
[09:50] <ziroday> Stdht: okay, well then use the one that works then
[09:51] <Jordan_U> discorpia: Yes, unfortunately the proprietary drivers don't support the standard interface for configuring monitors.
[09:51] <niarbeht> psycolizard: that relates to cpu frequency scaling.  What CPU do you have?
[09:51] <Stdht> ziroday so I do but why there so many devices comparing to windows
[09:52] <ziroday> Stdht: because of the different sound systems, windows only has one sound system (AFAIK)
[09:52] <racecar56> ziroday, http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f7cee64a7
[09:52] <humbolt> why is my system so slow (tons of IO wait) after resuming from suspend?
[09:52] <gralco> hi is anyone interested in learning C++ along with me
[09:52] <discorpia> Jordan_U: oh, ok. but i haven't installed those drivers yet. it is a ati radeon 3450, but performance is miserable when i try running fglrx, so something must be buggy with the proprietary drivers and that card then
[09:52] <Jordan_U> humbolt: suspend to disk?
[09:52] <niarbeht> ziroday: technically, there's been more than one sound system, it's just relatively transparent because they all co-exist....
[09:52] <humbolt> Jordan_U: no RAM
[09:52] <psycolizard> @niarbeht AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core 6400+ 3.2ghz dont know what you need
[09:52] <niarbeht> K.
[09:53] <Stdht> ziroday so How to choose which device will soundplayer use?
[09:53] <discorpia> i was hoping i could get full resolution, just not fully accelerated without using the fglrx/ati drivers
[09:53] <racecar56> psycolizard, :( you got nice processor
[09:53] <racecar56> psycolizard, i only have an amd sempron 3100+
[09:53] <ziroday> racecar56: well the radeon driver is loaded, what does glxinfo | grep direct return?
[09:53] <Thingymebob> dutch: create a new text file in /usr/share/applications/gnome-appearance-properties.desktop, copy this into it http://paste.ubuntu.com/207983/ chown to root and chgrp to root then chmod +r
[09:53] <psycolizard> i built my comp from the ground up, when i still had a job lol
[09:53] <racecar56> ziroday, direct rendering: Yes
[09:53] <Jordan_U> discorpia: Can you pastebin the output from /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:53] <ziroday> racecar56: and glxinfo | grep render
[09:53] <indus> racecar56: i have athlon x2 4400+ :)
[09:54] <discorpia> Jordan_U: with our without the proprietary drivers?
[09:54] <niarbeht> Well, ever poked around in your BIOS before?  Find and turn on the Cool and Quiet option in there and the complaints from the kernel will cease.  That, and you might be able to convince your computer to do dynamic CPU frequency scaling, causing your computer to run cooler when idle, saving power not just in terms of the CPU's power usage, but also in terms of your AC bill :P
[09:54] <Stdht> ziroday I cant test ALSA on HDA intel and at the same time when I play wav file with a pleyer I can use HDA intel ALSA in volume contorl and voulme really changes?
[09:54] <racecar56> ziroday, same thing as before and OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 AGP 8x TCL
[09:54] <ziroday> Stdht: I have no idea what you are saying sorry.
[09:54] <Jordan_U> discorpia: without first
[09:54] <racecar56> indus, mine is 1.8 ghz :|
[09:54] <racecar56> indus, old comp=yes
[09:54] <ziroday> racecar56: right, well then the correct driver is loaded and 3D accelerated rendering is working. Not much more I can do sorry.
[09:55] <racecar56> ziroday, kk
[09:55] <niarbeht> psycolizard: that big blurb was for you, btw
[09:55] <Stdht> ziroday, my english needs much to be regarded ... but I'll try once again...:)
[09:55] <psycolizard> honestly i dont know much about computers, this is my first build... i know how to run it not so much program it. any chance u can explain it a bit to me
[09:55] <indus> racecar56: ziroday:ATI has dropped support for older r 200 (and r300) cards in newer releases ,so hardy is the only option for the driver, else use the open source driver
[09:55] <ziroday> Stdht: what's your native language?
[09:55] <indus> not sure about the r 300 though
[09:55] <ziroday> indus: correct...
[09:56] <humbolt> pidstat -d 1 tells me firefox is constantly reading something on the disk
[09:56] <Stdht> ziroday russian
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, thats what i am using
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, open source
[09:56] <indus> ziroday: he seems to have the r 300 and he is using jaunty i presume
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, and i on 9.04 :|
[09:56] <discorpia> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m2b3e7abe
[09:56] <ziroday> Stdht: then #ubuntu-ru might be helpful too :)
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, yep
[09:56] <ziroday> indus: and?
[09:56] <Stdht> tnks i'll try
[09:56] <racecar56> indus, r350 i think
[09:56] <indus> racecar56: ziroday:oh ok sorry but i missed some of the posts
[09:56] <dAnon> my graphics driver doesn't work, I tried running Enemy Territory, and it just quits the game before even launching
[09:56] <niarbeht> psycolizard: I'm not talking about programming it.  Got the motherboard manual?  Look for a section about entering the BIOS.  Usually, you just spam the "delete" key like a madman when starting the system up.  Once in there, be careful not to go changing things you don't understand, just find the cool and quiet option and turn it on :P
[09:56] <thummy> Hi Humanas (ubuntus), I was setting up some netboot. When I boot the client, it gets tha IP address but fails to get the image. It says "tftp: client does not accept options" and/or "tftp:file not found". Any one who can figure the problem?
[09:56] <rayno_b> hey there - I'm trying to install Ubuntu within VirtualBox, but the VirtualBox display loads the CD, but the screen is completely blank.  I can see the screen for a brief second when I shut down that VirtualBox.  Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[09:57] <indus> racecar56: whats the problem? system not using the ati drivers?
[09:57] <racecar56> indus, laggy 3D
[09:57] <ziroday> racecar56: the issue is your graphics card is too old. Disable some of the effects you don't need or disable compiz all together.
[09:57] <vng> where is log file of pidgin? I want to view the log of #ubuntu channel
[09:57] <indus> racecar56: ziroday:open source ATI drivers wont perform like the proprietary ones
[09:57] <ziroday> !logs > vng
[09:57] <racecar56> ziroday, i dont use gnome.......
[09:57] <indus> for 3d at least
[09:57] <psycolizard> if its that simple it should be no problem. my mobo lets me in its bios easily, unlike my old stock computer, eww stock
[09:57] <racecar56> ziroday, i use lxde
[09:57] <ziroday> racecar56: yes but you use compiz?
[09:58] <racecar56> ziroday, no
[09:58] <racecar56> ziroday, i have no desktop fx
[09:58] <dAnon> my graphics driver doesn't work, I tried running Enemy Territory, and it just quits the game before even launching, installed 173 driver, this is terrible
[09:58] <ziroday> racecar56: that what is laggy?
[09:58] <h4f1> Is there a way to set up network usage priority ? EX I use FF and Transmision. Transmision uses all bandwidth so when I go FF I get nothing. I can limit Transmission bandwidth but then when FF is IDLE bandwidth is not used at all. I need some kind of QoS
[09:58] <racecar56> ziroday, 3d games e.g. vdrift
[09:58] <racecar56> ziroday, or i could have compiled stupid
[09:58] <racecar56> ziroday, but i dont think so
[09:58] <indus> dAnon: run the game from terminal and see the error
[09:59] <discorpia> Jordan_U: not sure if all of it is relevant, but didn't want to cut anything out
[09:59] <indus> dAnon: also,which graphics card
[09:59] <ziroday> racecar56: right, as I said your graphics card is just old. Lower the settings on the game then.
[09:59] <vng> how about the log on my machine?
[09:59] <racecar56> ziroday, kk
[09:59] <gralco> hi is anyone interested in learning C++ along with me
[09:59] <dAnon> indus 7800GT, it says no opengl subsystem
[09:59] <psycolizard> so if I turn on cool and quiet in there it should solve the ACPI fail?
[09:59] <ninina> I don't know if this is the place to ask this, but I feel like I want to get involved in open source dev. Anyone know a good place to start out or something?
[09:59] <djiezes> h4f1: do you have a router? if so you could try prioritizing network traffic there. set up portforwarding for your torrents should have some effect.
[09:59] <ziroday> vng: its under ~/.purple/logs
[10:00] <indus> dAnon:paste output of glxinfo | grep render
[10:00] <rayno_b> hey there - I'm trying to install Ubuntu within VirtualBox, but the VirtualBox display loads the CD, but the screen is completely blank.  I can see the screen for a brief second when I shut down that VirtualBox.  Does anyone have any suggestions for me?
[10:00] <nsb> names
[10:00] <indus> !paste
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, it seems my older Radeon 9200SE is faster hmmm
[10:00] <h4f1> djiezes: yeap I have a modem. but how does it relate to application usage
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, i have 2 gfx cards (not at once) and they are both old
[10:00] <vng> ziroday: thank you
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, the older 9200SE is faster O_o
[10:00] <koshari> how do i set firefox 3.5 as default browser so links open in 3.5 instead of 3.1?
[10:00] <ziroday> racecar56: not much that I can do sorry
[10:00] <racecar56> ziroday, k
[10:01] <discorpia> Jordan_U: when i enter display settings it says Samsung 17" as monitor name, where does it get that from? why is xorg.conf basically empty?
[10:01] <ziroday> koshari: System > Preferences > Preffered Applications
[10:01] <djiezes> h4f1: torrents use a different port than normal browsing. if you set  up portforwarding for your torrents, it helps ... really, check http://portforward.com/ for how to do so.
[10:01] <lesshaste> what's the ubuntu equivalent of  apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>
[10:01] <discorpia> i don't even recognize linux anymore when i'm fiddling with ubuntu and xorg
[10:01] <racecar56> discorpia, i have mine saying acer 22"
[10:01] <racecar56> discorpia, i also wonder how it knows...
[10:01] <ziroday> racecar56: some of the options in http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI#Performance_tuning might be able to help, but be very careful with what you do and only change xorg.org settings
[10:02] <discorpia> racecar56: mine doesn't know per se, since it's dead wrong, but it assumes, and that annoys me when it doesn't tell me how to affect that assumption :D
[10:02] <jeniffer> friends why hard disk temperature under linux is higher than in windows???? is is something to reduce it (except power off the laptop)????
[10:02] <koshari> ziroday cheers
[10:02] <dAnon> indus it spams Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[10:02] <AndorinKato> Hey, guys, I have a question... I'm trying to install a plugin for Pidgin, and I'm very new to compiling... the README tells me to run the configure script, but when I paste in the command it tells me I need to specify where Pidgin is installed to... but a search through my system for pidgin gives a LOT of results. How do I tell where Pidgin is installed? It came installed by default with Jaunty...
[10:02] <indus> dAnon: the driver is not installed
[10:02] <koshari> ziroday there was no option so i edited the custom line to add -3.5
[10:02] <h4f1> djiezes: yeap. sound kind of solution. but I have to do that for all applications now :( not nice. I would prefer to apply something like cpulimit and nice to a process. but in network sense
[10:03] <dAnon> indus but I installed it, so who's fault is this?
[10:03] <ziroday> koshari: Web browser > Custom
[10:03] <indus> dAnon: how did you install the nvidia driver? did you do it from system>administration>hardware drivers?
[10:03] <dAnon> say indus yes
[10:03] <djiezes> h4f1: you don't, you only need to configure your torrent application/port. It'll solve other network issues. torrent is quite heavy on network traffice & congests your router.
[10:03] <psycolizard> @niar well im gonna go try that, if i cant get it ill be back on here, if it works than tyvvm
[10:03] <indus> dAnon: open hardware drivers and tell me what it says
[10:03] <koshari> AndorinKato cant you use the gui tools > plugins?
[10:04] <rayno_b> when I start "startx", my screen does not seem to like the resolution and goes off until I ctrl+C the startx session.  How do I set the resolution a bit lower?
[10:04] <AndorinKato> koshari: That's only for configuring them, not installing them... the plugin came as a .tar
[10:04] <koshari> AndorinKato ok, i guess you will need to firuge out where the plugins reside
[10:05] <dAnon> indus 173.14.16
[10:05] <halberd> my inspiron 15n laptop came with 8.10 preinstalled, which I just upgraded to 9.04... now suspend no longer works
[10:05] <halberd> anybody know a fix?
[10:05] <h4f1> djiezes: the problem is that I said FF and Torrent as example. Some time I am running very bandwidth hungry application
[10:05] <Jordan_U> h4f1: Try trickle
[10:05] <mcfarlane> When I do tail /var/log/messeges, what does the -- MARK -- processes mean?
[10:05] <zugu> hello all
[10:05] <AndorinKato> koshari: And how do I do that?
[10:05] <indus> dAnon: does it say the driver is currently in use?
[10:05] <h4f1>  Jordan_U: thanks
[10:05] <koshari> AndorinKato can you find or locate the name of an existing plugin?
[10:05] <u_dparte> halberd, version upgrades are not that consistent ... your better off doing a clean install if you can
[10:05] <Jordan_U> h4f1: np
[10:06] <dAnon> indus where do I figure this out?
[10:06] <AndorinKato> koshari: That would be a good place to start, I guess ;)
[10:06] <zugu> can someone explain me why all the good stuff on getdeb.net is not present in Ubuntu's repositories?
[10:06] <Lord-Readman> I need to unjail my user account when I login in stuck in my home folder, and I wish to browse to my /var/www/
[10:06] <u_dparte> zugu, because much of it is not officially supported
[10:06] <indus> dAnon: at the bottom , it will say this driver is currently in use along with a button on the right to enable or disable
[10:07] <zugu> u_dparte: I'm afraid I don't understand; why isn't it officially supported? Are the packages on getdeb not safe?
[10:07] <u_dparte> zugu, not necessarily ... just means they might cause problems with your system
[10:07] <dAnon> 173
[10:07] <dAnon> I click it
[10:07] <dAnon> indus and it says it's enabled and in use
[10:08] <indus> dAnon: did you just install nvidia driver?
[10:08] <zugu> u_dparte: then why does everyone point me to getdeb when I ask where I can find more recent software?
[10:08] <u_dparte> zugu, before you install anything though you should research it and find out any known issues
[10:08] <lesshaste> well I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[10:08] <dAnon> indus and it says it's enabled and in use, I installed it from here
[10:08] <indus> dAnon: open synaptic,search for nvidia-glx-173 or something and install if from there
[10:08] <Jordan_U> discorpia: The xorg.conf is mostly empty because Xorg can auto detect pretty much everything that the Xorg.conf generating scripts could. You can still add to the xorg.conf and it will honor the settings
[10:08] <AndorinKato> koshari: Not getting a lot of luck here; so far out of the several I've searched for, only one gave results and I got 25 hits
[10:09] <h4f1> Jordan_U: trickle is goo. I need something like that per process . like cpulimit
[10:09] <lesshaste> help! :)
[10:10] <zugu> I mean, it's not right; some packages in Ubuntu's repositories are out of date, why are they not updated like the ones on getdeb?
[10:10] <dAnon> indus why isn't it working in the first place?
[10:10] <Lord-Readman> anyone know howto unjail a user account when so when i FTP I can browse to my /var/www/
[10:10] <dAnon> indus I've got them marked as installed
[10:10] <Flannel> zugu: Packages are mostly frozen a few months before release, after that they just get updates for bugs and security fixes.
[10:10] <indus> dAnon: i dont know, i had the same problem and i finally installed from synaptic
[10:10] <u_dparte> zugu, its not uncommon to have additional repos.. i use them all the time, but there is way to much software out there to test each pack to ensure its completely safe to install
[10:10] <indus> dAnon: just reinstall it
[10:11] <dAnon> indus reinstalling as we speak
[10:11] <indus> dAnon:good and dont forget to restart
[10:11] <moncky> Lord-Readman: you could create a group and add the user to that group and give the group access to /var/www, or add the user to the apache group
[10:11] <u_dparte> zugu, ubuntu tests common packages that a majority of there users will need and leaves the rest up to you and I
[10:11] <halberd> how would I diagnose a failure with suspend?  when I ask if pm-is-supported --suspend it tells me yes
[10:11] <Flannel> zugu: The reason for the freeze is to ensure everything works correctly together.  If you're not satisfied with this approach, you might be more interested in a rolling release like debian testing.
[10:11] <dAnon> indus reinstalling, rebooting
[10:11] <halberd> but when I try pm-suspend it does nothing
[10:11] <halberd> the command exits with no action
[10:11] <AndorinKato> Ok, grr, this isn't working...
[10:12] <indus> whats a rolling release
[10:12] <AndorinKato> Can someone who has experience with compiling PM me? I'm having trouble with what is probably a basic concept...
[10:12] <zugu> Flannel: curious, I never knew this; so basically people are stuck with older software? On Windows I can install whatever version of some specific software I want, straight from the developer's website; why is this so difficult with Ubuntu? Or am I missing something? Sorry, I'm a noob
[10:12] <Flannel> indus: New package version are put into the same release more or less when they become stable, as opposed to only updating those things eery six months
[10:13] <indus> Flannel: which do you prefer and why
[10:13] <u_dparte> zugu, it's not difficult just not supported ... windows doesn't support other developers software either
[10:13] <h4f1> cpulimit - limit the cpu usage of a process (expressed in percentage, not in cpu time). I need same think for Network Bandwidth
[10:13] <Stdht> ziroday: as i thought in russian channel - no help at all
[10:13] <Flannel> zugu: There's nothing wrong with "old" software.  Its only a few months old generally.  Yes, you can install software straight from the developers website on Ubuntu, its just "as easy" as on Windows, but you then have to keep track of updates/etc yourself.
[10:13] <zugu> u_dparte: yes, but the developer supports the software directly, on Ubuntu I am fosced to depend on the repositories
[10:14] <Stdht> ziroday: so may I ask you once again?
[10:14] <Jordan_U> zugu: Ubuntu has descrete releases and to keep things stable and predictable they only release updates for bugs and security fixes. There are other distros called "rolling" distros that always have the latest of everything and never have releases, you just constantly upgrade bit by bit.
[10:14] <u_dparte> zugu, no you have several options for installing software
[10:14] <u_dparte> you can compile from source
[10:14] <Flannel> zugu: Package management is a really nice feature, because it keeps you up to date, and means that software plays well with each other, etc.
[10:14] <AndorinKato> Can someone who has experience with compiling PM me? I'm having trouble with what is probably a basic concept...
[10:14] <u_dparte> you can install rpms, debs etc..
[10:14] <Flannel> !compile > AndorinKato
[10:14] <indus> Flannel: ubuntu talks about stability and hence a 6 month cycle, then why have an LTS i wonder
[10:15] <dAnon> indus this is hopeless, still same thing
[10:15] <u_dparte> indus, its for people who install servers that can't be upgraded every 6 months
[10:15] <Flannel> indus: Because you get even more stability with a two year cycle.  Also (the bigger reason) some people don't like upgrading every six months.  A two year cycle suits their needs much better.
[10:15] <u_dparte> indus, I have a server still runing 7.10
[10:15] <Flannel> u_dparte: That's unsupported.
[10:15] <psycolizard> sigh, im back. cool and quiet got rid of the ACPI error, but it gave me the same screen, a black dos like screen that talks about ubuntu and its software... what do i do?
[10:15] <zugu> Flannel: there are a lot of things wrong with old software; look at pidgin: the latest version in Jaunty is 2.5.5 and I really need 2.5.8 because 2.5.5 cannot connect to Yahoo! anymore; Ubuntu won't update the pidgin in its repositories and getdeb is not officially supported; on Windows I can install 2.5.8 right away from www.pidgin.im
[10:16] <indus> dAnon: can i see your xorg.conf file paste output of cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:16] <koshari> AndorinKato look in the .purple dirs, pidgin used to be called gaim remember and i think they changes the dir names to purple
[10:16] <u_dparte> zugu, then why not ask how to install the latest and greatest here?
[10:16] <h4f1> cpulimit - limit the cpu usage of a process (expressed in percentage, not in cpu time). I need same think for Network Bandwidth  any one :(
[10:16] <halberd> how could I try to diagnose a problem with pm-suspend?
[10:16] <zugu> u_dparte: I need the latest and greatest, but I do not want to install unsupported software
[10:17] <Flannel> zugu: In the past there have been updates to fix protocols (since those are bugfixes), I'm not sure what the timeframe for that is though.
[10:17] <indus> what other distro would people here recommend similar to ubuntu
[10:17] <Flannel> zugu: You can still install pidgin right away, it just wouldn't be via package management
[10:17] <Jordan_U> u_dparte: You should really upgrade to 8.04, for security updates if nothing else. You can stay with 8.04 for a long time since it's LTS
[10:17] <Flannel> indus: Try debian testing if you're looking for a rolling release.
[10:17] <lesshaste> well I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[10:17] <u_dparte> zugu, that's what we're here for buddy
[10:17] <lesshaste> any idea what to do about it?
[10:17] <zugu> Flannel: the person who introduced me to Ubuntu said I should only install software from the official repositories
[10:17] <indus> Flannel: i somehow dont feel at home with debian :) too geeky
[10:18] <Flannel> zugu: I agree with them.
[10:18] <u_dparte> yes, I would but I'll probably end up smashing it with a sledgehammer before I upgrade
[10:18] <rayno_b> Hi I need some assistance with xorg - If I run startx my screen goes into sleep mode.  Any suggestions?
[10:18] <Flannel> indus: You... know that Ubuntu is based on debian, right? (and for some values of 'is' basically, is debian?)
[10:18] <indus> Flannel: anyways ill discuss it off topic with you people later
[10:18] <zugu> Flannel: then why is it so hard to find an officially supported pidgin 2.5.8 on ubuntu?
[10:18] <indus> Flannel: yes i know that.but somehow ubuntu seems more down to earth
[10:19] <AndorinKato> koshari: Still doesn't help... :(
[10:19] <Flannel> zugu: 2.5.8 won't ever be in Jaunty, the version number won't change from 2.5.5, but it'll have the patch for yahoo introduced into it.  Like I said, I'm not sure about the timeline for this.  Have you checked launchpad for a bug report?  That might have more information on the current status
[10:19] <thummy> I was setting up netboot. When I boot the client, it gets an IP address from the server but it fails to get the boot image. The sysylog message on server says "tftpd[11658]: tftp: client does not accept options". But the client says "tftp error: file not found". Anyone who can help?
[10:19] <u_dparte> Jordan_U, new server from prgmr is running centos5.2 ... can't wait to move everything to a stable box
[10:20] <koshari> AndorinKato urs/lib/purple-2/plugins.so
[10:20] <zugu> Flannel: there's a bug report on Launchpad, but it concerns the next Ubuntu release
[10:20] <dAnon> indus http://www.sendspace.com/file/bzqcuo this is what I've got in my xorg.conf
[10:20] <koshari> AndorinKato sorry /usr/lib.................
[10:20] <rayno_b> Hi I need some assistance with xorg - If I run startx my screen goes into sleep mode.  Any suggestions?
[10:21] <zugu> Flannel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/393736
[10:21] <u_dparte> zugu, many times installing a current release is a good thing
[10:21] <psycolizard> i still cant get my computer to install ubuntu. it starts, gives me language select, gives me menu of "install" "demo" etc, if i hit either one it takes me to black screen with info about ubuntu and its software and has a doslike prompt... can someone help me?
[10:21] <thummy> I was setting up netboot. When I boot the client, it gets an IP address from the server but it fails to get the boot image. The sysylog message on server says "tftpd[11658]: tftp: client does not accept options". But the client says "tftp error: file not found". My server is Ubuntu 9.04 Anyone who can help?
[10:21] <indus> dAnon: please use paste, sendspace is banned here
[10:21] <raevol> can anyone help me figure out why totem is stretching the movies i watch, so the aspect is wrong
[10:21] <u_dparte> zugu, ex. I was having issues w/ my source control being corrupted ... come to find out by building the latest from source everything was all better
[10:22] <u_dparte> zugu, the latest from the repos was out of date by like a bunch of versions
[10:22] <Flannel> zugu: right, that wouldn't be the same thing.  What you should do is file a bug about yahoo in jaunty not working (and ask for them to patch the yahoo version)
[10:22] <zugu> u_dparte: I don't like to compile things
[10:22] <AndorinKato> koshari: Thank you, but still getting the same error when trying to configure... I just don't know jack about compiling.
[10:22] <indus> zugu: Flannel:well its a known bug and tehy are working on it i believe
[10:22] <u_dparte> zugu, compiling is fun - it's like a birthday present except you don't know if your getting a bag of crap or a block of gold
[10:22] <Flannel> indus: Do you have a bug report?
[10:23] <Flannel> u_dparte: Please don't recommend that in this channel.
[10:23] <indus> Flannel: wait let me check on pidgin site
[10:23] <indus> there is i believe. its a famous bug now
[10:24] <Flannel> indus: pidgin bugs don't count.  We need Ubuntu bugs, since this is an ubuntu issue.
[10:24] <zugu> Flannel: I give up; it's easy on Windows, it should be just as easy on Ubuntu
[10:24] <Flannel> zugu: It is easy.  But package management doesn't work that way.  If you go outside of package management, it's just as trivial.
[10:24] <indus> Flannel: hmm i mean,,,, pidgin cant connect to yahoo and the pidgin devs are aware and workin on it, its also an ubuntu bug ?
[10:25] <edgarmattern1> Hi, can someone help me, since a kernelupdate (I think it was one) my system does'n start enymore.
[10:25] <zugu> Flannel: yes, but I won't ever go outside the package management
[10:25] <Flannel> indus: There needs to be a bug reported in launchpad (against Ubuntus pidgin), because the fix for yahoo (which is in 2.5.8) needs to be put into 2.5.5
[10:25] <u_dparte> edgarmattern1, how so?
[10:25] <u_dparte> does it go into grub?
[10:26] <digitaltao> hah, has any one ever done the alt+f2 free the fish command (if you run gnome)
[10:26] <indus> Flannel: http://tinyurl.com/pidgin-yahoo
[10:26] <edgarmattern1> yas, the loadingscreen is there and the caps lock and the scrool lock aer blinking.
[10:26] <zugu> thank you guys for trying to help, but I find all this to be too unnecessarily complicated
[10:26] <Flannel> zugu: You're holding your OSes to a double standard.  But sure, if you won't go outside of package management, file a bug about it.  There isn't currently one.
[10:26] <edgarmattern1> yes...
[10:26] <Flannel> zugu: Or, switch to debian testing, which is a rolling release where they don't freeze versions, so you're constantly being updated.
[10:27] <indus> zugu: http://tinyurl.com/pidgin-yahoo
[10:27] <u_dparte> when you boot up hit alt+f2 and it will show you all the things going on behind the scenes ... see if you can pinpoint where it is going wrong based on the text output
[10:27] <rayno_b> Hi I need some assistance with xorg - If I run startx my screen goes into sleep mode.  Any suggestions?
[10:27] <zugu> I'll go back to XP, since lack of Yahoo connectivity is a showstopper for me; it's not a Pidgin problem, they fixed it; it's an Ubuntu issue
[10:27] <bart416> rayno_b: tried generating a new configuration file already?
[10:27] <edgarmattern1> kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt.
[10:27] <Flannel> zugu: Bye
[10:28] <zugu> bye all
[10:28] <edgarmattern1> bye
[10:28] <bart416> anybody here any good at grub?
[10:28] <indus> aah wait
[10:28] <AndorinKato> Okay, guys, I would really like someone to help me install a plugin for Pidgin... my issue is that when configuring I don't know where to point the installation to...
[10:28] <indus> nooo
[10:28] <bart416> it somehow seems to dislike the idea of booting an OS on a disk marked as slave instead of master >_>
[10:28] <moncky> AndorinKato: is it asking for where the binary is?
[10:28] <Flannel> indus: Again, that's not a launchpad bug report, Ubuntu's pidgin people need to be told about it, and I don't believe they have been.
[10:29] <AndorinKato> moncky: The binary of Pidgin?
[10:29] <koshari> bart416: whats ya prob
[10:29] <moncky> AndorinKato: yeah where is it asking you to point to
[10:29] <psycolizard> i still cant get my computer to install ubuntu. it starts, gives me language select, gives me menu of "install" "demo" etc, if i hit either one it takes me to black screen with info about ubuntu and its software and has a doslike prompt... can someone help me?
[10:29] <bart416> well, my HD with my operating systems is in IDE Channel 1 but it's slave, not master
[10:29] <AndorinKato> moncky: Um.. I don't know... it tells me that it doesn't find the packages 'pidgin' or 'purple'
[10:29] <thummy> I was setting up netboot. When I boot the client, it gets an IP address from the server but it fails to get the boot image. The sysylog message on server says "tftpd[11658]: tftp: client does not accept options". But the client says "tftp error: file not found". My server is Ubuntu 9.04 Anyone who can help?
[10:29] <bart416> changing the jumper would take several hours cause of the way the hardware is fitted in the case
[10:29] <bart416> so that's not really an option
[10:30] <rayno_b> Bart, do you mind if I pvt you?
[10:30] <bart416> the HD has both win xp and kubuntu on it (I'm happy I didn't try debian)
[10:30] <bart416> now if I boot it'll load grub
[10:30] <indus> Flannel: it was a popular problem or bug, and if you telling me that the devs will only fix a problem if you file a launchpad  report, thats really arrogant, but i dont believe thats how they work.
[10:30] <bart416> the side issue being that it gives error 22
[10:30] <u_dparte> psycolizard, at the first menu after the language try hitting f4 and selecting the safe graphics mode
[10:30] <koshari> bart416: it wont care if its master or slave, its the dev that it cares about, and you may need to install the grub onto the mbr if you have changes drives
[10:30] <moncky> AndorinKato: purple is a library for pidgin, pidgin is installed to /usr/bin in my system
[10:31] <u_dparte> psycolizard, if it's not that, you might have a bad disk ... did you check the disk for errors?
[10:31] <bart416> well, the fact that it loads means it's in the mbr koshari
[10:31] <indus> Flannel: but anyway ill file one if thats what it will take
[10:31] <halberd> hey is it possible to revert my kernel to an older version?
[10:31] <Flannel> indus: You're saying that the people in charge of packaging pidgin need to be omniscient?
[10:31] <qe2eqe> indus, =(
[10:31] <bart416> cause if it was booting directly from the slave it'd load xp
[10:31] <bart416> it wrote the mbr on one of the sata disks
[10:31] <u_dparte> halberd, when you but up you can select which kernel
[10:31] <psycolizard> ill go check that, i guess brb, whether it works or not
[10:31] <indus> qe2eqe: yes?
[10:32] <koshari> bart416 it looks like the grub mbr is pointing to the wrong drive then
[10:32] <AndorinKato> moncky: Here are the brief install instructions and the error I get when I attempt to follow them: http://pastebin.com/d7cb15c9 I just suck at compiling and have no idea what to do with the 'configure' step
[10:32] <dAnon> indus Section "Device"
[10:32] <dAnon> 	Identifier     "Device0"
[10:32] <dAnon> 	VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
[10:32] <bart416> koshari: I wouldn't know
[10:32] <dAnon> BoardName      "GeForce 7800 GT"
[10:32] <dAnon> 	Driver	"nvidia"
[10:33] <indus> dAnon: well it looks fine
[10:33] <koshari> bart416 so what did you change for it not to work anymore?
[10:33] <koshari> bart416 or have you not had it working yet?
[10:33] <bart416> I didn't have it working yet
[10:33] <bart416> just reinstalled my operating systems
[10:34] <Myrtti> dAnon: please use pastebin for those!
[10:34] <koshari> bart416 ok pastebin the output of fdisk -l, menu.1st and devices.list
[10:34] <dAnon> indus use what?
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[10:34] <geirha> !pastebin | dAnon
[10:34] <indus> Flannel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/389322
[10:35] <indus> Flannel: who told you the devs havent been notified yet
[10:35] <dAnon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208003/plain/
[10:35] <dAnon> like this
[10:35] <dAnon> ?
[10:35] <indus> yeah'
[10:36] <Flannel> indus: Apparently it's been fixed in Jaunty already.  Wonder what zugu's issue was then.
[10:36] <bart416> koshari: well there's another issue
[10:36] <bart416> getting fdisk to run
[10:36] <indus> Flannel: yeah sorry about thta
[10:36] <Flannel> indus: No worries
[10:36] <koshari> bart416: use sudo
[10:36] <andruk> why is the number pad on Gnome Sudoku upside down from a normal number pad?
[10:36] <indus> Flannel: yes it seems fixed but you know yesterday i couldnt connect
[10:36] <bart416> koshari: oh yes I tried that
[10:37] <indus> Flannel: maybe fix was released today? does it say when they released the fix?
[10:37] <bart416> gimme a minute, going to try something else to get it working
[10:37] <koshari> bart416 you tried "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[10:37] <indus> Flannel: 2 hours ago it seems :)
[10:37] <AndorinKato> Can somebody please help? <-- Trying to install a plugin for Pidgin, those are the instructions and error; I have no idea how to resolve the error, please help?
[10:37] <indus> damn
[10:37] <bart416> yeah, it's not working cause I chrooted earlier :P
[10:37] <AndorinKato> Dammit, forgot link! ^^;
[10:37] <Myrtti> AndorinKato: which plugin?
[10:38] <koshari> why dont you boot from the live disc, you need to be ther to run grub anyway
[10:38] <gangil> is there a way to get the temperatures in Ggkrellm on the task bar
[10:38] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Guifications, also: http://pastebin.com/d7cb15c9
[10:38] <AndorinKato> The link that should have been in that message. :P
[10:38] <gangil> as the applet takes a lot of screen space....
[10:38] <Myrtti> AndorinKato: and why can't you use the ready packaged plugin from the package management?
[10:38] <gangil> s/Ggkrellm/gkrellm
[10:38] <indus> Flannel: btw, i have an interesting bit, many users make the mistake of using full yahoo id instead of just username , and they cant connect . Yahoo only needs the part before the @
[10:39] <Flannel> indus: it may not be on all the servers yet, you're looking for 2.5.5-1ubuntu8.2, it'll be rolling out to a mirror near you sometime within the next few days, it just needs to be verified that it's safe
[10:39] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Because I'm a Linux noob who forgets about this sort of thing? :D
[10:39] <indus> Flannel: hmm iam at work ,not sure what version is at in jaunty
[10:39] <gangil> ?
[10:39] <bart416> http://bart416.pastebin.com/m5a22dd87
[10:40] <Myrtti> !info pidgin-guifications| AndorinKato
[10:40] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Thank you.
[10:40] <Flannel> indus: 8.1, it's in the queue to be rolled out, but still needs a smidge of verification first before the general public sees it
[10:40] <dAnon> indus any idea yet?
[10:40] <Myrtti> !info pidgin-guifications | AndorinKato
[10:40] <AndorinKato> Myrtti: Yeah, thank you, I did find it in the package manager.
[10:40] <nikor> Hi - Running Ibex on this box - just finished loading the new AMD 64bit Jaunty on another new box - I did not write down my user name and can't remember what it was - on the Ibex box here it always shows my desktop login name - Is there away I can figure out what name I used on the newer Jaunty box ? ?
[10:40] <indus> dAnon: hi wait 1 min
[10:40] <psycolizard> well, im back... checked disk, no errors, ran safe graphics mode, gave same screen "the software included on ubuntu is free...etc" why wont this work :/
[10:41] <indus> dAnon: not sure how to solve this
[10:41] <indus> dAnon: xorg looks fine, so iam trying to think why it wont use the nvidia driver
[10:41] <fivetwentysix> So what's the preferred method of installing the new firefox 3.5
[10:41] <indus> dAnon: do this again ... glxinfo | grep render
[10:41] <fivetwentysix> since it's not in the repo's yet.
[10:41] <nikor> Is there a way to find out your login name if it's not showing ?
[10:42] <indus> !ff3.5
[10:42] <u_dparte> psycolizard, you did select install ubuntu now correct .. not trying to be patronizing
[10:42] <Flannel> fivetwentysix: Wait for it to be packaged.  It'll be updated from RC2 to final soon.
[10:42] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt.
[10:42] <indus> Flannel: but my version in jaunty says b4?
[10:42] <psycolizard> yes
[10:42] <indus> Flannel: ff i mean
[10:42] <Flannel> indus: Eh, might be beta, whatever.  It'll be updated soon.
[10:43] <fivetwentysix> indus: Even worse, it's shiretoko! And firebug wont install on it.
[10:43] <dAnon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208004/plain/
[10:43] <dAnon> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/208004/plain/
[10:43] <indus> fivetwentysix: that version has a lot of bugs
[10:44] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, this might not be preferable for you but if that was my box I'd nuke it and reinstall
[10:44] <fivetwentysix> what's wrong with make installing from source ?
[10:44] <u_dparte> sounds like you've got some corrupt blocks on your HD
[10:44] <indus> dAnon: do you have an integrated card also? please disable it in the bios or set pci express as primary display adapter
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[10:44] <gangil> Which utility can display the GPU and motherboard temp. on the task bar , I am using gkrellm but it takes a lot of screen space , can I just see the temp. on the task bar????
[10:44] <qe2eqe> To do etherwake well, I need to sudo. How do I write a script with the privilege that etherwake will need?
[10:45] <psycolizard> i dont understand it, it installed just fine on the other computer. why wont it work on the better one -.-
[10:45] <halberd> xclip stopped working, it seems
[10:45] <halberd> with the upgrade to 9.04
[10:45] <u_dparte> hey psycolizard ... i had something similiar happen to me several months back ... not quite the same
[10:45] <dAnon> indus I do not have any integrated gpu
[10:45] <u_dparte> but I couldn't run an install
[10:45] <halberd> I do xclip -sel -clip <filename> and then I do a middle click but it doesn't paste the contents of the file
[10:45] <halberd> it used to work
[10:45] <djiezes> gangil: the hardware-sensors applet (gnome, right?)
[10:46] <indus> !nvidia
[10:46] <u_dparte> turned out .. for some reason my bios had a floppy drive enabled which I didn't have one ... that was causing the ubuntu install to crash
[10:46] <gangil> djiezes: yes  , it's gkrellm
[10:46] <dAnon> oh wait
[10:46] <psycolizard> -.- the ghost floppy drive doesnt like ubuntu?
[10:46] <GaZZ--> !firefox
[10:46] <indus> dAnon: which version of ubuntu are you using
[10:47] <dAnon> 904
[10:47] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: what can i do?
[10:47] <indus> dAnon: use the 180 driver
[10:47] <GaZZ--> !firefox-3.5
[10:47] <djiezes> gangil: well, the hardware-sensors applet does the trick, but you'll need to have the sensors package installed & configured too.
[10:47] <dAnon> indus I'll try it for once more
[10:48] <gangil> djiezes: are you referring to lm - sensors?
[10:48] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, that's beyond me without pysically being at the computer or being able to pull the hd ... you can boot up into safe mode and check your file system, but I don't know if that would work tbo
[10:48] <djiezes> gangil: alternatively, you could use conky to display those temps (also via the sensors package) on your desktop, but that'll take some configuring & tweaking
[10:48] <djiezes> gangil: yes
[10:48] <indus> dAnon:try this step   sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:48] <ubuntu> how can j install .img to run moblin2, it's not iso, and it, does not burn.
[10:48] <qe2eqe> !privileges
[10:49] <ubuntu> j tried to burn .img like an iso
[10:49] <jorisslob> Can somebody help me with troubleshooting Apache2 - Tomcat connection?
[10:49] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: after check file system nothing happend...
[10:49] <edgarmattern> u_dparte: thx...
[10:49] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, sorry don't know what to tell you ... maybe there's someone else around w/ more experience w/ things like this
[10:50] <qe2eqe> edgarmattern, it sounds like a hardware problem to me.
[10:50] <edgarmattern> is there a possiblity to restrore the old kernel?
[10:51] <edgarmattern> oh, ok.
[10:51] <hemanth> on ubuntu 9.04 with USB webcam , test video is showing horizontal lines, image not clear
[10:52] <psycolizard> anyone else have suggestions for why it wont install. it wont even run the demo from the disk...
[10:52] <hemanth> lsusb showed OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV519 WebCam
[10:52] <qe2eqe> edgarmattern, did this happen out of the blue?
[10:52] <edgarmattern> after kernel update (the system updated it today)
[10:53] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, can you select a prev. kernel from grub?
[10:53] <edgarmattern> this is the prev.kernel i'm chatting with :)
[10:53] <gangil> djiezes: I was taking of real -time temp. the lm - sensors give me that only when i type sensors in the terminal , I mean that temp. must be shown on my task bar  , and must be real-time , much like CPU scaling...
[10:54] <u_dparte> hah  ... ici
[10:54] <djiezes> gangil: exactly, the hardware-sensors applet does that, but depends on the lm-sensors package ...
[10:54] <henux> we have a server machine with HP UPS, do you know if i can use the apcuspd / uspd found from the Ubuntu repos with that?
[10:54] <qe2eqe> edgarmattern, oh. Well it'd be nice if you filed a bug report for something that supermajorserious. My advice would be to look into blocking the package, or changing grub's conf file
[10:54] <djiezes> gangil: you can configure it to refresh every x seconds or so, so that's pretty much realtime
[10:55] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, just did a googley search and it looks like your not the only one experiencing this
[10:55] <BuGo_laptop> hi
[10:55] <edgarmattern> or what habe you searched?
[10:55] <edgarmattern> for what...
[10:55] <edgarmattern> have
[10:55] <psycolizard> ok, what are the differences between ubuntu x86 and x64, because if theres no preformance/appearance differences than ill just try x86
[10:55] <BuGo_laptop> how can i disable firefox auto updates for all users and all sessions
[10:55] <u_dparte> edgarmattern, kernel panic not syncing ubuntu
[10:55] <u_dparte> 2nd one down is from the ubuntu forums
[10:56] <gangil> djiezes: do you refer to *sensord* package in the synaptic ,  as the hardware-sensors template
[10:56] <u_dparte> psycolizard, do you have a 64bit processor?
[10:56] <psycolizard> yes, im even running vista ultimate 64 as we speak
[10:56] <djiezes> gangil: no, in synaptic it's called sensors-applet
[10:57] <quixotiC-> can i make a comment on the ubuntu website here?
[10:57] <quixotiC-> a bug, sort of
[10:57] <u_dparte> psycolizard, you'd probably be better off w/ x86
[10:57] <u_dparte> x64 can be very difficult to get working if your not real comfortable w/ linux already
[10:58] <u_dparte> though it has improved
[10:58] <psycolizard> what is the difference, ive always wondered
[10:58] <djiezes> psycolizard: biggest reason to switch to x64 is if you have 4gb ram or more
[10:58] <quixotiC-> so this is not the place for bug reports on the website? :P
[10:58] <psycolizard> i do have 4gb
[10:59] <qe2eqe> quixotiC-, =/ wish I knew. I doubt the webdevs scan irc logs
[10:59] <djiezes> psycolizard: then it'd make sense to go for x64, but you might run into some issues with flash for example, or adobe air, be ready to do some tweaking.
[10:59] <u_dparte> psycolizard, many of the applications compiled for x64 take advantage of the multi-threading capabilities that your process was built for
[10:59] <quixotiC-> ok understood, thanks :)
[10:59] <psycolizard> so x64 is what i want/need, but its not wanting to work :/
[10:59] <u_dparte> problem is there are still packages out there that haven't been compiled for 64 bit architecture
[11:00] <psycolizard> if i do x86, and that works, what will the issues be with my ram?
[11:00] <djiezes> psycolizard: it'll work, but some things won't 'out of the box', I run jaunty 64bit & had to fix some flash issues and also some adobe air apps don't work.
[11:00] <u_dparte> how much ram do you have?
[11:00] <psycolizard> 4 even, 2 and 2
[11:01] <u_dparte> that's the same as me .. I run x86 and it reads all of mine
[11:01] <quixotiC-> linux 32 bit does have support for more then 3 gigs of ram
[11:01] <psycolizard> ok, because i know vista has that problem if its not x64, hence me running vista 64
[11:01] <u_dparte> psycolizard, tbo you won't noticed a difference running x64 unless your doing something really processor intensive like folding or something like that
[11:02] <indus> u_dparte: or video editing
[11:02] <psycolizard> alright, ill see if its just not wanting to take because its linux 64, ill try 32 and i it dont work then I guess its my mobo or something
[11:02] <u_dparte> indus, no offense to linux but i'll leave my video editing to mac... for the time being
[11:03] <indus> u_dparte: or windows :P
[11:03] <quixotiC-> mac = linux, no offence taken :P
[11:03] <u_dparte> quixotiC-, true
[11:03] <psycolizard> alright, well i suppose ill be right back, ill let u know if x32 works
[11:03] <indus> !off-topic
[11:03] <indus> :D
[11:03] <u_dparte> psycolizard, good luck
[11:04] <qe2eqe> u_dparte, no. Mac = Darwin. Linux = Linux.
[11:04] <gangil> !darwin
[11:05] <u_dparte> qe2eqe, wasn't mac orig based on bsd?
[11:06] <dvs-> i dont know if im in the right place now, but im desperate after some help with my Dell xps m1330 and Ubuntu 9.04, im really struggeling with the Nvidia GeForce 8400M GS getting overheated, even with the 173 driver
[11:06] <u_dparte> dvs-, the nvidia drivers are up to v. 185 now ..
[11:06] <dvs-> yes, but then its even worse
[11:06] <u_dparte> not sure if that has anything to do w/ your heat issues
[11:06] <thefeds> What happens if I create 3 partitions and make them use the same mount point /?
[11:06] <qe2eqe> u_dparte, which is a microkernel. =) Linux's kernel is monolithic? but they're both modeled after unix so, they feel the same.
[11:06] <thefeds> 3 separate hard disks
[11:06] <thefeds> 3 partitions
[11:07] <thefeds> all mounted with mount point /
[11:07] <thefeds> will that confuse ubuntu?
[11:07] <u_dparte> qe2eqe, thanks
[11:07] <thefeds> Will they be working?
[11:07] <dvs-> u_dparte, i tried to install 185 driver, but then i got some troubles with the X config, and had to reinstall ubuntu
[11:07] <qe2eqe> thefeds, that doesn't even sound legal. I know if you try that on the fly it won't let you
[11:08] <thefeds> So you can't have 2 partitions with the same mount point?
[11:08] <u_dparte> dvs - yikes .. did you follow this guide?:  http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=99513
[11:08] <thefeds> can you just have a partition without a mount point?
[11:08] <thefeds> What do I do?
[11:08] <u_dparte> I just used it earlier and it worked great
[11:08] <mcfarlane> When I do tail /var/log/messeges, what does the -- MARK -- processes mean?
[11:08] <fdelanoy> thefeds: I think you can, but only the last mounted one will be visible/active
[11:08] <dvs-> u_dparte: ill have a look at it
[11:08] <dvs-> thanks
[11:08] <u_dparte> yep
[11:08] <thefeds> What happens if I don't set a mount point?
[11:09] <qe2eqe> thefeds, well, you can look at /etc/fstab, which should make sense
[11:09] <fdelanoy> thefeds: why would you want to do that BTW?
[11:09] <thefeds> What happens if I don't set a mount point?
[11:09] <hklop> When are the updates going to stop for dapper drake?
[11:09] <qe2eqe> thefeds, no mount = no use
[11:09] <duckwars> how do I find an external hard drive in ubuntu through the terminal?
[11:09] <thefeds> well if I have 3 hard disks, how do I partition them
[11:09] <thefeds> so I can use 3
[11:09] <thefeds> in ubuntu
[11:09] <u_dparte> duckwars
[11:09] <qe2eqe> thefeds, unless you're using it to help raise the temperature of your case in an arctic climate.
[11:09] <fdelanoy> duckwars: /media
[11:09] <u_dparte> duckwars, cd /media/disk/<drives>
[11:10] <thefeds> So how do I use all three drives?
[11:10] <moncky> thefeds: format them with seperate mount points eg /mnt/disk1 /mnt/disk2
[11:10] <moncky> thefeds: though I would reccomend not doing that and instead looking at LVM
[11:11] <duckwars> how do I use terminal to copy a file from another computer I'm logged into to my local computer?
[11:11] <qe2eqe> thefeds, well, you might want to look into raid techniques if you want a seamless transition, but that also more than triples the likelihood you lose data. =/ I'll walk you through an example mount. You have sda1, sda2, sda3. Type mkdir /mnt/sda1     and try  mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
[11:12] <thefeds> If I make the mount point /disk1 instead of /mnt/disk1, will non root be able to look at it?
[11:12] <rmccinfo> bonjour
[11:12] <qe2eqe> thefeds, it won't work if you don't have any filesystem, so you might need mkfs, ubuntu has neat scripts to help you with that
[11:13] <thefeds> one disk is mounted as /
[11:13] <thefeds> 2 are /disk1 /disk2
[11:13] <thefeds> and a swap partition
[11:13] <qe2eqe> thefeds, well, if non-root can't see it, all you have to do is change permissions, which i don't remember off-hand
[11:14] <thefeds> If I have a hard disk as a slave to a CD-ROM drive, how much slower will it be?
[11:14] <thefeds> right now one of my hard drives is a slave
[11:14] <thefeds> to the CD rom drive
[11:14] <psycolizard> sigh... no luck. x86 didnt work either. must be my computer
[11:14] <indus> Psychoholic: whats teh problem?
[11:15] <qe2eqe> thefeds, ubuntu should really do all of that automatically, though
[11:15] <thefeds> no
[11:15] <thefeds> It only does one drive
[11:15] <Psychoholic> am i typing unknowingly?
[11:16] <duckwars> If I ssh into another computer how do I describe the filesystem of the computer I'm on?
[11:16] <qe2eqe> thefeds, I did the cd > hd slave thing like that before when jury rigging a micro case... it didn't seem ridiculously slow, but i didn't do benchmarks, either
[11:16] <ubuntu> duckwars: describe?
[11:16] <duckwars> I want to use the cp command to copy a file from the computer I'm ssh'd into to the one I'm physically at
[11:17] <qe2eqe> duckwars, I never could figure that out. =/ I used wget once, but that was already set up as server and easy
[11:17] <rayno_b> any virtualbox guru's out here?  I'm having trouble with loading an Ubuntu Guest on Ubuntu Host with VirtualBox.  When I load the Virtual Machine to start loading the system, the CD boots, but the screen remains black so I can't see what I'm selecting :(
[11:17] <geirha> !scp | duckwars
[11:17] <indus> duckwars: use scp
[11:17] <psycolizard> i already have a windows dual boot setup so it uses windows boot manager, could that be the reason i cant install ubuntu? i read that using a different boot manager can cause problems
[11:17] <duckwars> oh, I just figured there was someway to do it through terminal... I can do it through cyberduck for os x
[11:17] <joebodo> duckwars use scp from the machine you are connecting from
[11:18] <indus> Psychoholic: why cant you install ubuntu?
[11:18] <indus> Psychoholic: sorry wrong nik
[11:18] <indus> psycolizard: why cant you install ubuntu?
[11:18] <psycolizard> i think u mean me, and i wish i knew
[11:18] <indus> psycolizard: whats the error?
[11:19] <imaginativeone> how do I unfreeze my system?
[11:19] <koshari> rayno_b you mount the guest iso and run the app inside the VM
[11:20] <joebodo> imaginativeone alt-sysrek k will restart X
[11:20] <indus> joebodo: alt-SysRq-K
[11:20] <indus> joebodo: oops
[11:20] <CKY> can someone help me ..?
[11:20] <psycolizard> ok, start comp with disk in, goes to language select, select english, goes to menu "install, demo, etc." both install and demo run the ubunto loader bar, then goes to a black screen that says that all software is free for ubuntu and that there is no warranty, and it has a doslike prompt that looks like "ubuntu$:" or somethin like that.
[11:21] <indus> imaginativeone:ALT-SysRq-K
[11:21] <indus> psycolizard: what demo
[11:21] <CKY> ..anyone?
[11:21] <psycolizard> how u can run ubuntu from the disk to try it before u install
[11:21] <joebodo> !ask | CKY
[11:22] <psycolizard> that demo
[11:22] <indus> psycolizard: did you select the first option
[11:22] <psycolizard> ive tried both. they both go to the same place
[11:22] <indus> psycolizard: try 2nd option safe graphics mode
[11:22] <psycolizard> tried that too, same screen...
[11:22] <indus> psycolizard: did you do a startx
[11:22] <psycolizard> a what?
[11:23] <indus> psycolizard: at that ubuntu-$ prompt type startx
[11:23] <ubuntu> psycolizard: you should use the check disk option to see that CD is OK
[11:23] <psycolizard> oh, ive run the disk check from the menu, said no errors
[11:23] <Gunther> i have installed jdk5 and netbeans6.7 in ubuntu, when i run netbeans from root it is working fine
[11:23] <Gunther> but when i try from another user say "Gunther" netbeans just hangs, may be it is a problem with jdk execute permissions
[11:23] <Gunther> can anyone help me solve this
[11:24] <joebodo> Gunther have you tried starting from command line to see if there are any errors ?
[11:24] <Myrtti> CKY: ask?
[11:24] <indus> psycolizard: did you trythat command
[11:24] <ubuntu> psycolizard: there is an option to us 'verbal' startup so u could see where it hangs
[11:25] <psycolizard> no, not specifically startx, ill try that. and what do u mean verbal startup?
[11:26] <CKY> ok..i have a strange sound problem,it started just today before that all was just fine but now it make sounds as if the speakers are broken,by the way i have laptop..i tried to do something with the sound system and i manged to solve the problem and now only few application are working ,but the almost everything does not including the background sound of the OS
[11:29] <Gunther> can anyone give the pasting link
[11:29] <discorpia> pastebin.com
[11:29] <lstarnes> Gunther: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:29] <indus> psycolizard: any luck
[11:29] <CKY> can anyone help me from where to start,where to read..something
[11:30] <indus> CKY: can you tell us what exactly you did
[11:30] <joebodo> !sound
[11:30] <joebodo> is this sound message relevant anymore ?
[11:30] <CKY> that's the funny thing..nothing
[11:30] <psycolizard> i was waiting to hear what the verbal thing was, its this computer i cant install it on so i have to reboot to install it
[11:31] <christophsturm> how can i configure when my harddisks go to sleep? I have a server with a big raid and the server is always running, but i want the harddisks to spin down after some time
[11:31] <chrissi> anyone got a quick hint how to run a programm at startup with root privileges?
[11:31] <psycolizard> ill try now, be right back, hopefully with good news
[11:31] <indus> psycolizard: well , press ctl f1 during boot for more info
[11:31] <bart416> k, that took longer than I expected :|
[11:31] <Gunther> joebodo: can you please have a look, i don't know wheather it's an error messagehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/208024/
[11:31] <bart416> nobody had to publish a note that kubuntu automatically tries to install outdated nvidia drivers >_>
[11:32] <discorpia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208025/  anyone who's good with ATI and can give a clue?
[11:33] <bart416> discorpia, change your monitor identification in the xorg config file to screen0 ;)
[11:33] <packet-sent> If my motherboard has a limit on hard drive size so cannot it fails to recognise a 120GB drive, would installing ubuntu on a compatible 40GB drive allow me to use the 120GB as a slave ?
[11:33] <joebodo> Gunther: that's the output on the console ??
[11:33] <aytekin_> hello there
[11:33] <discorpia> bart416: it's that simple? :D i tried a blank to make it trye "screen" but it required a number, but should have tried that as well, i'll check, thanks mate
[11:34] <Gunther> joebodo: yes
[11:34] <bart416> discorpia, that looks like a logical solution :|
[11:34] <discorpia> bart416: the monitor or the screen section?
[11:34] <aytekin_>  i need a suggestion how to be made chmod 777 in ubuntu
[11:34] <bart416> good question
[11:34] <Gunther> joebodo: i got it when  i run netbean from command line
[11:34] <aytekin_>  i have installed php-5 and apache2 server
[11:35] <discorpia> i understand absolutely nothing about monitors in xorg now, it seems tied to the graphicscard-driver, not any monitor sections etc
[11:35] <bart416> :S
[11:35] <joebodo> Gunther: not much to go on -
[11:35] <bart416> does the ati driver have any auto configuration utility?
[11:35] <tyler> whats the difference between a screenlet and a desklet...and can they both be enabled in compiz fusions widget layer?
[11:35] <discorpia> bart416: aticonfig
[11:35] <bart416> can't that thing solve the issue?
[11:36] <discorpia> bart416: no, uhm, maybe not auto, i probably misunderstood you. but i think aticonfig is as close as it comes
[11:36] <joebodo> Gunther: try this ... xhost +
[11:36] <discorpia> bart416: and nobody anywhere (been googling all morning) seems to be able to say how to force it to a new monitor typ
[11:36] <discorpia> type*
[11:37] <discorpia> and with the proprietary drivers all gnome setting dialogs regarding screen/resolution/etc are defunct
[11:38] <Gunther> joebodo: same resutl
[11:38] <joebodo> discorpia i added my monitor definition to the xorg.conf to get the proper resolutions to select from
[11:38] <aytekin_> hello
[11:38] <joebodo> Gunther: sorry - no help here...
[11:38] <bart416> discorpia, mhhh typical ATI stuff :|
[11:38] <aytekin_>  i need a suggestion how to be made chmod 777 in ubuntu
[11:38] <discorpia> joebodo: i tried but it seemed to completely ignore it :/
[11:38] <tw3ak> good morning
[11:39] <aytekin_>  i have installed php-5 and apache2 server
[11:39] <bart416> why do I have the feeling I'm installing 90% of gnome the moment I install a GTK application :|
[11:39] <joebodo> discorpia did you restart X after modifying xorg.conf ?
[11:39] <tw3ak> I wasn't aware that while compiliiing kernel I could disable SElinux and my Xserver LOL
[11:39] <discorpia> joebodo: yeah, and it was the right depth too
[11:39] <tw3ak> Xorg needs inet6 to boot ? that was wierd
[11:40] <discorpia> joebodo: i'm trying to find the xorg.conf with my monitor in it that i used to copy&paste, my monitor is a SyncMaster 2493HM (Samsung), maybe it was something funky with the line
[11:40] <BigMack83> if two users that are in the same group, and they have a link in their home folder that links to a dir (out of their home dir) that is owned by the same group they are a member of. why would only one be able to access it and not the other? i have logged them out and back in but no change. i cant figure it out
[11:41] <imaginativeone> my window controls disappeared in kOrganizer.  How do I get them back?
[11:41] <dayo> how do i auto-generate passwords in ubuntu?
[11:41] <tw3ak> <<< I make a backup /etc in my home/dir / etc_backup for all my customized files
[11:41] <saliak> I'm having some trouble setting up postfix for my server.  I followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and it works through "testing", but if i try to send an email (say, via telneting to port 25 and manually issuing commands) locally or remotely, it doesn't work.  any ideas where i should/could start?  the test email i sent o my address @gmail.com is still in the outgoing queue and it says the connection to gmai.
[11:41] <BigMack83> i have checked the /etc/group file and confirmed they are a member of said group
[11:41] <joebodo> discorpia this is basically what i added to my monitor section to get it to identify properly:     HorizSync       31.0 - 89.<cr>  VertRefresh     55.0 - 160.0
[11:42] <joebodo> discorpia i had to google the correct values for my monitor
[11:42] <gastly> hi all, can anyone tell me how do I get smooth fonts with a custom firefox build? I've already tried the --enable-system-cairo option, but the fonts are nowhere near the fonts of firefox in the official ubuntu repo's
[11:43] <tw3ak> gastly there is a book called Ubuntu Kung Fu that I downloaded that gives you all the stuff about fonts as well as lot of other stuff
[11:43] <tw3ak> it's free
[11:43] <lyhana8> hi, does anyone manage to run Starcraft on a Virtualbox machine on fullscreen ?
[11:44] <gastly> tw3ak, cool, thanks I'll check it out
[11:44] <tw3ak> k
[11:44] <tw3ak> << newb actually helped someone
[11:44] <discorpia> joebodo: seems samsung is semi-known for sending invalid EDID info
[11:44] <rski> lyhana8: you can't starcraft dosent upscale
[11:44] <kesus> see this its incredible ->> http://palizasasas.elbruto.es/
[11:44] <tw3ak> lyhana have you run Virtualbox full screen on anything else?
[11:44] <rski> kesus: fuck off
[11:45] <Bennit> Hello, anyone know why nrouter+nadapter don't perform as well under ubuntu as under for example win7?
[11:45] <Bennit> is it the drivers or are there other issues?
[11:45] <kraut> kesus: gtfo and die!
[11:45] <gastly> tw3ak, but I doubt that it shows how to compile firefox and get nice fonts working :)
[11:45] <Bennit> I get 2.7mb/s max, under wiN7 it's 7-8mb/s
[11:45] <Myrtti> kraut: mind your language
[11:45] <lyhana8> tw3ak: yeah all apps work fullscreen except SC
[11:45] <tw3ak> it doesn't show firefox but it does show nice fonts they are not related
[11:46] <ubuntu> what was the name of that minimum ubuntu/linux install where you can decide yourself whick packages to install?
[11:46] <tw3ak> lyhana8 I would say it has something to do with memory then or your card
[11:46] <BigMack83> can anyone help with a groups issue? i have two users on my server that are in the same group, but one of the users cant access a directory (via a link in the home dir) that is owned by that same group yet the other user can go inside the dir
[11:46] <kraut> Myrtti: ok, but i hate such idiots...
[11:46] <tw3ak> video card
[11:46] <Myrtti> kraut: doesn't justify language
[11:46] <gastly> hmm...but I wanted to replicate the fonts that are in the firefox build of the ubuntu repositories...everything else is fine, no problems with fonts on any other app :)
[11:46] <dAnon> can someone explain me what X server actually is?
[11:46] <tw3ak> gastly the firefox site tells how to compile firefox
[11:46] <Glowball> Where can I see my processor's temperature?
[11:47] <koshari> Glowball you need to install sensors
[11:47] <mgolisch> BigMack83: does it have execute permission for the group?
[11:47] <Glowball> Oh.
[11:47] <gastly> tw3ak, yup, I've tried that and compiled it, but they don't tell anything about which font toolkit is good
[11:47] <Glowball> Dammit.
[11:47] <tw3ak> not sure but firefox 3.5 if out now
[11:47] <BigMack83> mgolisch:  yes, the perms for that dir are 775
[11:47] <kraut> Myrtti: that's why i said "ok" ;)
[11:47] <lyhana8> dAnon: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System
[11:47] <snoker52> hola
[11:47] <koshari> tw3ak: its in the repos
[11:48] <tw3ak> Yolinux is another font site
[11:48] <dAnon> lyhana8: thx
[11:48] <tw3ak> ko thanks
[11:48] <joebodo> BigMack83 link and target dir perms are the same ?
[11:48] <gastly> or maybe anyone can tell which is the best freetype2 or xft when it comes to font rendering? :)
[11:49] <tw3ak> < << compiling a custom kernel  why does not compiling inet6 break Xorg?
[11:49] <BigMack83> yea, the link itself is owned by root:root, but the dir itself is owned by "root:devgroup" which they are both a member of. both links point to the same place
[11:49] <tw3ak> is it just a function of init?
[11:50] <tw3ak> excuse Xinit
[11:50] <rayno_b> How can I display my server X remotely on a Windows XP machine?
[11:51] <alex12> hellos, im having problmes with firefox on ubuntu 8.10 - it __contsantly___ crashes all the time, the windows turns into a shade of grey then i have to force close the application, ive tried a ton of things to fix it, anyone have any suggestions  on how to fix this? why is it so unstable?
[11:51] <koshari> rayno_b tightVNC
[11:51] <BigMack83> the only difference is that the user that can access the dir from the link is that using "ls -la" the link looks normal colors from my bash file, but when looking from the user that cant access the dir the link is red
[11:51] <dAnon> how do I uninstall nvidia drivers
[11:51] <BigMack83> mgolisch joebodo ^^
[11:51] <dAnon> ?
[11:52] <psycolizard> ok, im back... still wont install, ive tried everything suggested so far
[11:52] <joebodo> alex12 i find firefox more stable on ubuntu - do you have many plugins installed in firefox ?
[11:53] <pretender> Eeebuntu how can i  restore the default gdock
[11:53] <alex12> joebodo, i have firebug installed, but even when disabled she still crashes
[11:53] <joebodo> alex12 k - i have firebug also...
[11:54] <ubuntu> what was the name of that minimum ubuntu/linux install where you can decide yourself whick packages to install?
[11:54] <BigMack83> joebodo:  yea but does it make a difference if firebug is installed from the repos or from mozillas plugin site?
[11:54] <dAnon> why ain't 185 drivers on the synaptic
[11:55] <rski> dAnon: it's to new
[11:55] <psycolizard> i can not get Ununtu to install in this computer, I have tried everything suggested and it just will not work...
[11:55] <bart416> Psychoholic, what's the problem?
[11:55] <rski> psycolizard: that tells absolutely nothing
[11:55] <psycolizard> *Ubuntu
[11:55] <joebodo> BigMack83 i installed from mozilla site
[11:55] <dAnon> why can't I use glx
[11:55] <Kartagis> !nvidia
[11:56] <bart416> psycolizard, does the live cd boot?
[11:56] <dAnon> and why isn't it the part of the fucking drivers
[11:56] <rski> dAnon: probably because it's broken somehow.
[11:56] <BigMack83> ah, i didnt know if that made a difference for the issue you were referring to
[11:56] <ubuntu> psycolizard: i wonder if xubuntu would install to it easier. is it old computer? what kind of HW. specially Graphics?
[11:56] <dAnon> everything is broken in linux
[11:56] <rski> dAnon: it's part of the drivers
[11:56] <rski> dAnon: please dont live not everything is broken
[11:56] <rski> lie*
[11:56] <joebodo> BigMack83 me either - i guess it depends upon what version is loaded from apt
[11:56] <bart416> ubuntu, if regular ubuntu doesn't want to install I doubt kubuntu or xubuntu will install either ;)
[11:56] <bazhang> dAnon, watch the language
[11:57] <dAnon> can't run Enemy Territory
[11:57] <psycolizard> its a new computer, i built it in febuary. AMD64 6600+ cpu, sli nvidia 8600gts gpu cards, 4gb ram... what else need to know?
[11:57] <thankyou> does anyone know how to get the widget layer working in compiz-fusion?
[11:57] <psycolizard> 6400+ my bad
[11:57] <rski> psycolizard: that didnt help
[11:57] <qe2eqe> dAnon, run glxinfo | grep render       --- yes or no?
[11:57] <joebodo> BigMack83 possibly try removing the link and recreating when logged in as the problem user
[11:57] <rski> psycolizard: tell us what you tried and how it failed
[11:58] <bart416> psycolizard, what's the install problem?
[11:58] <bazhang> psycolizard, tried the alternate cd yet? what about bootoptions?
[11:58] <joebodo> BigMack83 if the link is created correctly - i see no reason why it would be unusable for one person and not the other
[11:59] <imaginativeone> how do I get my window controls back?
[11:59] <bazhang> thankyou, widget layer? in kde4?
[11:59] <thankyou> no gnome...theres a widget plugin in compiz-fusion where u push f9 and widgets appear
[11:59] <BigMack83> joebodo:  ok as my user if i go into the users profile and run "ll" the link is blue, normal colors. but as that user the link is red. i will try creating the link as the other user
[12:00] <bazhang> thankyou, let me take a look at mine
[12:00] <qe2eqe> is it possible for a script, run by not root, to have privileges user would not have -- without using passwords in the script
[12:00] <psycolizard> reboot with disk in takes me to language select which takes me to menu with demo, install, check cd, etc. both install and demo bring me to black screen that says all of software is free for ubuntu. tried startx and got a few things that ill post in a second. tried graphic safe took me to same screen. tried both x86 and x64 disks
[12:00] <thankyou> bazhang: thanks!
[12:00] <bazhang> psycolizard, paste.ubuntu.com with errors please
[12:00] <snoker52> uops
[12:01] <discorpia> joebodo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/208043/   does that xorg.conf look weird to you? (or to anyone else for that matter)
[12:01] <psycolizard> i dont know what that means... im new to this
[12:01] <bazhang> psycolizard, did you md5 the iso? and do the disk integrity check after burning at very low speed?
[12:01] <BigMack83> joebodo:  the user that cant access the dir is allowed to create the link to the dir (does not have sudo access)
[12:01] <psycolizard> did the integrity check, and ive installed it on one computer already
[12:01] <bazhang> psycolizard, what graphics card
[12:02] <psycolizard> 2x nvidia 8600GTS
[12:02] <qe2eqe> psycolizard, I bet your answer lies in a video option to pass at boot time.
[12:02] <remoteCTR1> can someone pls point me the way to a howto on creating an ubuntu on a pendrive without having ubuntu or windwos installed to do so?
[12:02] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, pendrive connected to what
[12:02] <rski> remoteCTR1: not possible
[12:03] <qe2eqe> rski, I disagree
[12:03] <rski> well if you run mac it is
[12:03] <dAnon> qe2eqe ran it
[12:03] <rski> so agreed
[12:03] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, pendrive connected to debian lenny
[12:03] <qe2eqe> dAnon, if you run it in a terminal it tells you yes or no.
[12:03] <rski> ....
[12:03] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, #debian
[12:04] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, err... i want to have ubuntu on the pendrive?
[12:04] <qe2eqe> rski, =) If you don't count a livecd as a ram installation?
[12:04] <dAnon> qe2eqe http://paste.ubuntu.com/208046/plain/
[12:04] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, or pendrive website (really a #debian issue though)
[12:04] <dAnon> this is what it returns
[12:05] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, im not sure i follow... in jaunty there is a menu item in system menu to create an image, theres also gotta be a manual way, right?
[12:05] <qe2eqe> dAnon, that blows my mind why it returned anything.
[12:06] <bazhang> remoteCTR1, you specified without Ubuntu though (check the pendrive website for more)
[12:06] <qe2eqe> dAnon, Have you made sure you enabled proprietary hardware drivers through the menu?
[12:06] <psycolizard> this is what startx gave me : primary device not pci, (EE) no devices detected, Fatal Server Error: no screens found
[12:06] <remoteCTR1> bazhang, humm... will do thanks:-/
[12:06] <dAnon> it is enabled
[12:07] <dAnon> says it's enabled and running
[12:07] <dAnon> used 173 this time
[12:07] <dAnon> 180 also failed
[12:07] <qdb> hello
[12:07] <qe2eqe> dAnon, have you tried using envy / envyng ?
[12:07] <qdb> i have stardict question
[12:08] <dAnon> yep
[12:08] <dAnon> can't get this stupid glx to work
[12:09] <ubuntu> psycolizard: maybe try to install with one card first? and then try to get it working later with two so u can edit Xorg etc conf files
[12:09] <bazhang> thankyou, not working here either, could be an issue on how to activate  let's ask in #compiz
[12:11] <psycolizard> ugh, im not takin my card out, too much of a hastle. i was worried that could be it tho. -.- guess i just have have ubuntu
[12:11] <psycolizard> *cant have
[12:11] <rayno_b> how can I remotely see my xorg x screen?
[12:11] <thankyou> bazhang: im trying this now http://www.ubuntugeek.com/screenlets-work-with-compiz-widget-layer-in-ubuntu-gutsy.html
[12:11] <koshari> bazhang whats the plugin?
[12:11] <bazhang> koshari, widget layer
[12:11] <qe2eqe> dAnon, im no expert, but I'd say completely undo everything envy did, check glx, and then run ubuntu in recovery mode and use the menu to reconfigure x, then check glx
[12:12] <joebodo> !xdmcp
[12:12] <qe2eqe> dAnon, of course, also do lspci and google your specific card for pitfalls and caveats and things
[12:12] <joebodo> !xdmcp | rayno_b
[12:12] <qdb> i have stardict question
[12:12] <qe2eqe> joebodo,  cool link
[12:12] <qe2eqe> !xdmcp | qe2eqe
[12:12] <rayno_b> thx ubottu
[12:13] <bazhang> thankyou, getting some answers in #compiz you may want to join there as well
[12:13] <toddy> does anyone know how to use webcam chats in the kopete program?
[12:13] <qdb> how to use special searcher here? alis? alice?
[12:13] <lstarnes> qdb: alis
[12:13] <ubuntu> psycolizard: doesnt look goof with pci-e6600 ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15311.html
[12:13] <psycolizard> im going to try the alternate disk, if that dont work, i give up :(
[12:13] <lstarnes> qdb: /msg alis help list
[12:13] <jorisslob> According to the #tomcat topic, people should use mod_proxy_ajp instead of mod_jk. This is not in the Ubuntu repository however. What should I do? Stick with Ubuntu's repository, or get mod_proxy_ajp from somewhere else?
[12:14] <qdb> thank you
[12:14] <suppi> hi all
[12:14] <vistakiller> when we get the new firefox update?
[12:15] <suppi> i installed a program using the .bin file.....how do i uninstall tat program??????pls help
[12:15] <bazhang> thankyou, you need to choose some widgets to add as it is otherwise empty
[12:15] <bazhang> thankyou, to quote: the widget layer plugin is empty of actual widgets  it is just a layer to place them you can also place applications like terminal or any application actually
[12:15] <toddy> I have been searching alot of time on how to get video chats on msn messenger programs 4 linux. is anyone able to help me.?
[12:15] <TailsofFate> Does anyone know hot to start an IRC server?
[12:15]  * zerozerozero how do i Set the default sound card for alsa
[12:16] <bazhang>  if an application  open the application and ccsm  and go to the widget layer plugin then the Behaviour tab and click the yellow  +  icon  again a quote thankyou
[12:17] <psycolizard> ubuntu: theyre 8600s, not that its any different to linux i suppose
[12:17] <thankyou> bazhang: ccsm?
[12:17] <dAnon> it's 3rd day I can't get the properly working driver
[12:17] <bazhang> thankyou, the compizconfig settings manager, where you activate do the settings for the various plugins
[12:18] <winterk> Hiya - I was wondering if anyone here knows how I might be able to port the old default Human theme from Intrepid's GDM to Jaunty's? I have the GDM theme files from 8.10, just not sure how to port them over instead of the current black screen.
[12:18] <psycolizard> however that says that the 32bit install should work just fine. whereas theyre having the same error, both 32 and 64
[12:18] <bazhang> thankyou, found under system-->preferences
[12:18] <thankyou> bazhang: yeah im there i asee the little add icon...what text do i add?
[12:18] <thefeds> Is sshd running in a default ubuntu install?
[12:18] <suppi> guys help me out
[12:18] <thankyou> bazhang: its asking me for type value relation and invert
[12:19] <bazhang> thankyou, check the quotes I pasted above
[12:19] <zerozerozero> where can i find modprobe.conf file??
[12:19] <thefeds> Is sshd running in a default ubuntu install?
[12:19] <lstarnes> thefeds: not of the desktop edition
[12:19] <thefeds> ok
[12:19] <sabgenton> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick this is very cool looking but is there a dd image that someone has prepared earlyer?
[12:19] <thefeds> Is it installed?
[12:19] <qe2eqe> thefeds, no
[12:19] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: That should be in your /etc directory
[12:19] <thefeds> sudo apt-get install sshd
[12:19] <thefeds> right?
[12:19] <robin__> hello anyone can help wats is e meaning of not a sudoers file????
[12:19] <robin__> hello anyone can help wats is e meaning of not a sudoers file????
[12:20] <sabgenton> anyone?
[12:20] <sabgenton> or anyware
[12:20] <sabgenton> ?
[12:20] <thefeds> will it run on start up if I do that?
[12:20] <lstarnes> thefeds: its package name is openssh-server
[12:20] <thefeds> If I install it will it start on startup?
[12:20] <thefeds> or is that a config you have to do?
[12:20] <lstarnes> thefeds: I think so
[12:20] <moncky> !patience | sabgenton
[12:20] <zerozerozero> jorisslob: /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf?
[12:21] <joebodo> sshd will start by default
[12:21] <_Claus> Hello one and all, does anyone know how to change the suspend command to shutdown in 8.10? :)
[12:21] <sabgenton> moncky: I wasn't repeating I was trying to say does any one or anyware / anywebsite
[12:21] <sabgenton> have it
[12:21] <bazhang> sabgenton, you are using jaunty?
[12:21] <zerozerozero> jorisslob: modprob.d folder doesnot have modprob.conf
[12:21] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: I believe that the modprobe.conf is split up in multiple files inside the modprobe.d under ubuntu
[12:21] <koshari> sabgenton care to be more specific, the link just gives a tut on unetbootin ect
[12:22] <jg_> hellp
[12:22] <jg_> i need help
[12:22] <sabgenton> it lets u make a usbstick installer
[12:22] <bazhang> sabgenton, any reason not to use the usb-creator within jaunty?
[12:22] <jg_> is there not msn on ubuntu
[12:22] <jg_> im a new user
[12:22] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: So every module can get its seperate file
[12:22] <koshari> sabgenton just use unetbootin
[12:22] <sabgenton> anyone made one that can dd the image?
[12:22] <bazhang> jg_, amsn
[12:22] <jg_> and youtube dosent load
[12:22] <jg_> so bad
[12:22] <zerozerozero> jorisslob: oh i had added a sound card to my system i want to make it the default soundcard
[12:23] <bazhang> jg_, dont type two words and hit enter key
[12:23] <jg_> youtube dosent work on ubuntu
[12:23] <bazhang> jg_, you need to install flash
[12:23] <joebodo> zerozerozero try /etc/modules
[12:23] <rski> jg_: there is msn on ubuntu
[12:23] <tw3ak> ok, hope there are some kernel builders here, I screwed up...... again...............SElinux disabled at boot would it be kernel config or init change?
[12:23] <bazhang> !flash > jg_
[12:23] <rski> jg_: also do you have flash installed
[12:23] <_Claus> jg_ you could also use emesene http://www.emesene.org/
[12:23] <robin__> hello anyone i just intall fedora 11 i try install xchat and it says robin is not in the sudoers file wat is e meaning????????????
[12:23] <jorisslob> zerozerozero: Hmm, sorry, maybe someone else has more experience, this is all I can find/know
[12:23] <bazhang> robin__, #fedora
[12:23] <jg_> i got flash
[12:24] <rski> jg_: how does it not work then
[12:24] <jg_> claus_ are you danish
[12:24] <_Claus> jg_ yes sir
[12:24] <jg_> ooh so am i
[12:25] <bazhang> !ot > jg_
[12:25] <_Claus> jg_ cool but it would not be polite to speak in our native tounge in this channel.
[12:25] <jg_> oooooh ok
[12:25] <jg_> why
[12:25] <Myrtti> !dk | jg_
[12:25] <Myrtti> !english | jg_
[12:25] <jg_> i am actually not danish i am invandrer immigrant
[12:25] <bazhang> jg_, this is not the chat channel; #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[12:26] <jg_> omfg what is this channel
[12:26] <rski> ?
[12:26] <_Claus> jg_ thats why ;) but you can also use www.ubuntuforums.dk if you which to speak danish
[12:26] <lstarnes> jg_: this is the support channel for ubuntu
[12:26] <Myrtti> jg_: English Ubuntu Support
[12:26] <bazhang> jg_, watch the language
[12:26] <jg_> what language
[12:26] <jg_> omg i need help
[12:26] <jg_> man i need so much help
[12:26] <sabgenton> koshari: meh ok
[12:26] <Myrtti> jg_: no cursing, not even with acronyms
[12:27] <jg_> I need help
[12:27] <jg_> can anyone help
[12:27] <jg_> send me a message to private if you can help
[12:27] <ziroday> !details | jg_
[12:27] <rski> jg_: worst question you can ask
[12:27] <jg_> I have a problem youtube dosent play
[12:27] <thefeds> 1380 people here, someone surely can help
[12:27] <Myrtti> !pm | jg_
[12:27] <sabgenton> koshari: just don't have cd drive on me right now
[12:27] <dAnon> no
[12:27] <qe2eqe> Myrtti, what if the acronym is more popular in minced oath fashion than in vulgar?
[12:27] <dAnon> I can't be helped
[12:27] <rski> jg_: so i asked how does it not play
[12:27] <lstarnes> jg_: how did you install flash?
[12:28] <dAnon> I am reinstalling Ubuntu 3rd time now
[12:28] <joebodo> jg_ you could try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras - that will install flash properly
[12:28] <jg_> from flash player site
[12:28] <rski> jg_: try from the repo instead
[12:28] <koshari> sabgenton you dont need one with unetbootin thats the whole point, it simply loads the iso on the usb drive
[12:28] <thefeds> Why are you re-installing dAnon
[12:28] <thefeds> ?
[12:28] <jg_> wtfu is repo
[12:28] <lstarnes> jg_: you should use the flashplugin-nonfree package
[12:28] <Myrtti> qe2eqe: no cursing - in any form.
[12:28] <jg_> i am totally new to ubuntu
[12:28] <sabgenton> koshari: yeah I get ya
[12:28] <badeagle> oh jeez this is really off topic, but in the USA if i'm exposed to an extremely rare anthrax bug, who should I call?
[12:28] <Myrtti> jg_: NO CURSING, please!
[12:28] <jg_> i dont know anything about ubuntu
[12:28] <dAnon> I got so lost in all this pointless crap
[12:28] <lstarnes> jg_: look in system > administration > synaptic package manager
[12:28] <sabgenton> koshari: does usb-creator work if you run the live cd
[12:28] <dAnon> can't just get fucking opengl to work
[12:28] <bazhang> !ot | badeagle
[12:28] <jschiff> badeagle: ghostbusters
[12:28] <ziroday> jg_: go to a flash website, click the Install flash button
[12:28] <jg_> ok 2secs
[12:29] <sabgenton> (for if you do have a cd drive)
[12:29] <sabgenton> if you run it from the live cd i mean
[12:29] <koshari> jg_ repos are where all the software packages are stored, like a big comprehensive tucows for ubuntu
[12:29] <ziroday> jg_: or open a terminal and type in sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:29] <badeagle> *aptitude ?
[12:29] <jg_> ok wait il do the terminal thing
[12:29] <dAnon> linux is incompatibile with everything
[12:30] <jg_> yo
[12:30] <bazhang> dAnon, stay on topic and stop cursing
[12:30] <rski> dAnon: i've already told you not to lie
[12:30] <jg_> theres written sudo password
[12:30] <jg_> wt is that
[12:30] <ziroday> jg_: its the password you logged in with
[12:30] <lstarnes> jg_: just type in your account's password
[12:30] <waqar> Hi, I dont know wether thats the right place to ask this question, DOES MOBILE HAS BIOS
[12:30] <rski> it's the sudo password
[12:30] <jg_> ok wait
[12:30] <dAnon> no lie just 3rd or 4th day and still no 3d acceleration on very popular video card
[12:30] <commodore256> It's Compatible With x86, x86-64, PowerPC, Sparc and ARm
[12:30] <ziroday> waqar: it depends on the device. Ask in ##hardware
[12:31] <ubuntu> jg_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and you get flash working
[12:31] <bo7amny> dose ubuntu 9.04 have any problems with nvidia cards ?
[12:31] <waqar> LETS SAY iPHONE
[12:31] <jschiff> bo7amny: not reall
[12:31] <jschiff> y
[12:31] <dAnon> I doubt it's nvidia fault
[12:31] <jg_>  dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. there is written this
[12:31] <Myrtti> waqar: how about #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <dAnon> maybe 9.04 is a big pile of poo
[12:31] <commodore256> or go in to synaptic and look for "Ubuntu Restricted Extras"
[12:31] <jg_> hello
[12:31] <lstarnes> jg_: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:31] <dAnon> this is my first linux and I am disappointed
[12:31] <jg_> ok
[12:31] <bo7amny> not like intel cards , right?
[12:32] <bazhang> dAnon, please stop.
[12:32] <jschiff> dAnon: then go running back to windows :)
[12:32] <ziroday> jg_: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:32] <commodore256> Stop Being CLI Crazy with noobs
[12:32] <dAnon> best advice you could have give me jschiff, especially on #ubuntu channel
[12:32] <waqar> Some body answering me??????
[12:32] <dAnon> thanks
[12:32] <jschiff> no prob
[12:32] <bazhang> waqar, #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:32] <qe2eqe> dAnon, it's always the manufacturers fault for calling API's trade secrets ;)
[12:32] <commodore256> Tell them the GUI way
[12:32] <lstarnes> commodore256: the cli is more efficient for simple tasks
[12:32] <waqar> bazhang: Whats that
[12:33] <jg_> now theres written Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[12:33] <jg_> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[12:33] <jg_> Setting up xchat-gnome (1:0.18-2ubuntu4.1) ...
[12:33] <indus> dAnon: you still cant get it to work?
[12:33] <dAnon> I just give up
[12:33] <commodore256> The CLI is for people that know what they are doing
[12:33] <bazhang> waqar, a channel to ask about iPhone
[12:33] <dAnon> I don't know what to do
[12:33] <ziroday> jg_: that's fine, its installing xchat-gnome which you asked it to install for
[12:33] <waqar> OK
[12:33] <jg_> omg
[12:33] <jg_> i wanted youtube
[12:33] <jg_> not xchat
[12:33] <dAnon> I want to launch enemy territory
[12:33] <waqar> bazhang: thanx
[12:33] <lstarnes> jg_: it's probably just trying to fix broken installs from earlier
[12:33] <jg_> ok lol
[12:34] <jschiff> to all in this chatroom: I'm going to have to say, ubuntu has THE BEST user base of all operating systems, Windows fan base: arrogant, Mac fan base: selfish elitists, Ubuntu fan base friendly and helpful
[12:34] <lstarnes> jg_: after that's finished, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:34] <commodore256> The CLI isn't for noobs
[12:34] <jpds> commodore256: Well, we all have to learn some day.
[12:34] <qe2eqe> commodore256, I disagree whole heartedly. CLI hacks saved my noob butt left and right
[12:34] <ziroday> commodore256: the command line is a very direct and easy way for helpers to guide you into doing exactly what is needed to be done.
[12:34] <jg_> now tyheres written Reading package lists... Done
[12:34] <jg_> Building dependency tree
[12:34] <jg_> Reading state information... Done
[12:34] <jg_> E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-restricted-exstas
[12:35] <FloodBot2> jg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <ziroday> jg_: its ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:35] <lstarnes> jg_: you typoed -extras
[12:35] <armagheddonsgw> hi guys i need serious help with my comp. ubuntu seems to be CAPABLE of fixing it, but i dont know how. in windows, disk 1 (hard drive) and both optical drives cant be found. in ubuntu however the partitions on disk 0 cant be mounted
[12:35] <qe2eqe> jg_, you'll learn real quick to measure twice and cut once with text commands. =)
[12:36] <commodore256> If they just came from monoploy OS, the last thing they wanna do is use the thing that looks like the command prompt that they never used.
[12:36] <jg_> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:36] <jg_> Need to get 36.4MB of archives.
[12:36] <jg_> After this operation, 105MB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:36] <jg_> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[12:36] <qe2eqe> armagheddonsgw, alot of times, in that setup, problems happen when the windows partitions haven't been unmounted proper, i.e, windows not shut down well
[12:36] <rski> jg_: and?
[12:36] <lstarnes> jg_: you probably want Y
[12:36] <armagheddonsgw> yeah i know WHAT the problem is
[12:36] <jg_> ok
[12:36] <armagheddonsgw> i want to know HOW to fix it
[12:37] <ziroday> commodore256: nobody is forcing you to use the command line, however the person helping you often prefers it as its quicker, more direct and easier to follow
[12:37] <qe2eqe> jg_, try to be polite and conserve how many lines you post in this channel.
[12:37] <joebodo> OMG I have to use the buttons with the letters on them !!
[12:38] <jg_> shut up
[12:38] <armagheddonsgw> .... yes thats called a keyboard joebodo.
[12:38] <commodore256> Driving is only quicker than walking only if you know how to drive
[12:38] <rski> that's not being polite jg_
[12:38] <jg_> ok i know srry lol
[12:38] <m477> #ubuntu-pl
[12:38] <bazhang> jg_, lose the attitude
[12:38] <qe2eqe> commodore256, besides, gui is like communicating with gestures, cli is like language. You'd like to think that computing's final form exists in the latter, less cavemanish ways.
[12:38] <ziroday> commodore256: I'm sure if you asked the helper they would be happy to explain to you what is going on.
[12:39] <jg_> hi
[12:39] <armagheddonsgw> uhh... someone going to help me or do i have to wait all day for someone to notice i need help?
[12:39] <qe2eqe> sigh
[12:39] <jg_> hello i need help
[12:39] <qe2eqe> armagheddonsgw, did you shut down windows gracefully last time?
[12:39] <jg_> i have got a problem
[12:40] <armagheddonsgw> yes
[12:40] <armagheddonsgw> well... before the problem occurred
[12:40] <Myrtti> jg_: yes, we know
[12:40] <jpds> jg_: Welcome back!
[12:40] <qe2eqe> armagheddonsgw, What problem?
[12:40] <jg_> i cant play youtube
[12:40] <qe2eqe> !ask | armagheddonsgw
[12:40] <ziroday> jg_: we just told you what to do
[12:40] <moncky> jg_: have you installed flash?
[12:40] <jg_> i cant see what you write
[12:40] <jg_> can u write it in private message
[12:40] <jpds> jg_: Do: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree - like we told you too.
[12:40] <bazhang> jg_, please dont use enter key after one or two words
[12:40] <jg_> ok
[12:40] <jpds> jg_: So, how do you know we're writing stuff?
[12:41] <ziroday> jpds: was thinking the same thing :)
[12:41] <qe2eqe> jg_, can you do other flash apps? i.e. games?
[12:41] <smashbox> jg_: Like speaking shattner?
[12:41] <jg_> i can do some miniclip
[12:41] <jg_> but is slow
[12:42] <joebodo> !flash
[12:42] <sniff__> ecryptfs question: i re-installed jaunty that had ecrypfs'd /home partition on a separate drive. now, i didn't realize ecryptfs was dependent on a system partition /var, so i wiped by keys. i do remember the passphrase for the encrypted /home however, so i would like to know, what steps does it take to regenerate ~/.ecryptfs -> /var/lib/ecryptfs/sniff contents, that is: wrapped passphrase and Private/Public.sig? is it possible to ge
[12:42] <indus> !paste
[12:42] <qe2eqe> smashbox, shatnever doesn't say o.k. he says 'good'.
[12:42] <jg_> hello
[12:42] <bart416> you could simply install the restricted extra package if you want flash
[12:42] <jg_> help plz
[12:42] <bart416> that way you'll get all the things at once
[12:43] <armagheddonsgw> qe2eqe: pm'd you.
[12:43] <jg_> are you gonna give me some good help or not
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> I always install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package also :) it grabs flash and java and other bits.
[12:43] <jpds> !flash | jg_ - read this page
[12:43] <armagheddonsgw> jg_: from experience, you need to be patient to get help here
[12:43] <bazhang> jg_, we have answered you several times. Please stop repeating
[12:43] <sniff__> by keys == my keys that is
[12:43] <Myrtti> jg_: if you refuse to be helped, there's nothing we can do
[12:43] <jg_> i dont know what you are saying your writing 100 things on one time
[12:44] <jg_> just tell me the command i have to put in for getting flash player
[12:44] <jg_> that sudo thing
[12:44] <armagheddonsgw> !flash
[12:44] <armagheddonsgw> :(
[12:44] <bazhang> jg_, pay attention
[12:44] <jg_> why cant you message me in private
[12:44] <sniff__> ecryptfs? anyone? :D
[12:44] <bart416> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:44] <bart416> etc...
[12:44] <Myrtti> !pm > jg_
[12:44] <bazhang> jg_, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:45] <bazhang> jg_, enter that command in a terminal.
[12:45] <qdb> dictionary archives with name starting with "stardict" like stardict-mueller7-2.4.2.tar.bz2 work,  i do not know how to install dictionaries with names like comn_dictd03_ushakov.tar.bz2 .
[12:45] <armagheddonsgw> jg you can download a .bin file from adobe n screw around play with some settings to get ubuntu to treat it as a .deb.
[12:45] <jg_> ok i did
[12:45] <sniff__> !ecryptfs
[12:45] <sniff__> hmm
[12:45] <bazhang> jg_, it will take quite some time to download
[12:45] <jg_> no it wont
[12:45] <huwenfeng> hi, i setup squid as transparent proxy for other people. but in the localhost( the firewall, running the squid), web traffic does not go through squid , but connect the internet directly! how can i let the localhost's web traffic also goes through squid? transparently!
[12:45] <jg_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:46] <Myrtti> jg_: have you restarted your browser after installing flash?
[12:46] <qe2eqe> huwenfeng, admirable project you have. I never got through the squid manual when I tried =/
[12:47] <joebodo> huwenfeng change your localhost browser to use the proxy
[12:47] <Dulak> huwenfeng: http://venturehosting.net/squid-as-a-transparent-proxy-on-a-stand-alone-machine/
[12:47] <joebodo> huwenfeng or wget or whatever
[12:47] <jg_> so its downloading now
[12:47] <jg_> Download done.
[12:47] <jg_> Flash Plugin installed.
[12:47] <jg_> what now
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> exit/restart the browser
[12:47] <discorpia> seriously, this is getting on my nerves.. is there no way to ignore/disable EDID in xorg? none of the options i'm trying seems to work at all
[12:47] <moncky> jg_: you will need to kill firefox and restart it
[12:48] <jg_> browse?
[12:48] <jg_> how do i do that
[12:48] <discorpia> my monitor section in xorg.conf seems to be completely ignored as well
[12:48] <bazhang> jg_, quit firefox
[12:48] <m477_> #ubuntu-pl
[12:48] <moncky> click the x in the top right of the firefox window
[12:48] <jg_> i am not in firefox now
[12:48] <jg_> shell i open now again
[12:48] <lstarnes> jg_: yes
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> If you want to test firefox.. Yes.. you do need to start firefox....
[12:49] <sniff__> my logic is, wiping a system partition shouldn't make /home on separate disk inaccessible, if passphrase was asked to encrypt it.. and i don't remember it asking about keyfiles
[12:49] <sniff__> (regarding ecryptfs)
[12:49] <joebodo> oh the suspense
[12:49] <jg_> it still wont work
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> !dontwork
[12:49] <bazhang> jg_, where did you dl flash from
[12:49] <jg_> it still dosent work
[12:49] <jg_> from sudo
[12:49] <cemunal> will xubuntu 8.04.3 release when ubuntu 8.04.3 release?
[12:50] <jg_> sudo apt-get install.....
[12:50] <bazhang> jg_, it could not have installed that fast
[12:50] <jg_> it did
[12:50] <jg_> i swear
[12:50] <bazhang> jg_, stop wasting our time.
[12:50] <jg_> i am not
[12:50] <Dulak> something is weird, first file 1g, get 2meg/sec throughput, second file 1.4g, 4meg/sec throughput, third file 8.7g, 26m/sec throughput.
[12:50] <jg_> i want to WATCH YouTUBE
[12:50] <Dulak> how the hell does that work?
[12:51] <ziroday> jg_: please screenshot the output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-nonfree and going to youtube.com in your browser
[12:51] <jg_> ok i willl
[12:51] <jg_> il be back in 5 min
[12:52] <cemunal> will xubuntu 8.04.3 release when ubuntu 8.04.3 release?
[12:52] <joebodo> ?
[12:52] <ziroday> cemunal: #xubuntu will know (hopefully) :)
[12:52] <bazhang> cemunal, no reason why it would not
[12:52] <discorpia> isn't there anyone here who has used ubuntu long enough and can tell me how to turn of all the automatic bullsh*t it does when starting xorg? i want to use an old plain xorg.conf but everything seems to get overridden
[12:52] <bazhang> discorpia, no cursing
[12:53] <discorpia> my apologies
[12:53] <ziroday> discorpia: and if you're xorg.conf is defined correctly it will be used
[12:53] <sniff__> discorpia: apt-get remove gdm kdm xdm ?
[12:53] <sniff__> then login and startx
[12:54] <sniff__> it'll still go gnome/kde/xubuntu though
[12:54] <discorpia> ziroday: and if it's not shouldn't it atleast tell me? i've used all EDID-disabling switches i've found, even tried some deprecated ones, but it still ignores all monitor modes etc and uses EDID to (wrongly) identify the monitor
[12:54] <lstarnes> sniff__: that seems a bit too radical
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> discorpia:  its also X itself thats doing all the auto config stuff for the most part. Not really 'ubuntu' doing it.
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Or thats how i understand it at least.
[12:55] <sniff__> lstarnes: well, just disable them in rc?.d
[12:55] <huwenfeng> Dulak: Oh, yes, it now goes through the squid proxy now, but just block them, i can not use firefox to browse the internet now, though it do go through the proxy
[12:55] <JediMaster> are there any distributed file systems that are supported on ubuntu?
[12:55] <sniff__> i figured discorpia doesn't want display managers :)
[12:55] <discorpia> Dr_Willis: i haven't seen this high level of automation in any other dist actually
[12:55] <_Claus> JediMaster yes AndrewFS is one, but I dont know how to set that up
[12:56] <discorpia> sniff__: i just want to force to accept my resolution no matter what it _thinks_ the monitor is
[12:56] <discorpia> i'm all for autoidentifying stuff, but it's a real nightmare when you're given no tools to override
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> discorpia:  they may not be using the same X version.  also the 'hal' configs (i think) can let you tweak some of the automated configs for X.
[12:56] <JediMaster> _Claus: not heard of it, how any ideas on performance and reliability?
[12:57] <hemanth> need some help on http://pastebin.com/m10a6d322
[12:57] <jg_> hello again
[12:57] <ziroday> jg_: hi, screenshots?
[12:57] <jg_> i will now take a screenshot
[12:57] <jg_> wiat
[12:57] <bazhang> !imagebin | jg_
[12:57] <_Claus> JediMaster sorry not really. but I suspect that a quick google will answer any of your questions. But from what I know of it, it seems to be very scalable. e.g. the dns service I use supports DNS resolution for AFS
[12:58] <jg_> file:///home/jg/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[12:58] <sniff__> discorpia: how about xvidtune? at least it works with plain rgb crts
[12:58] <bazhang> jg_, we cant access that
[12:58] <discorpia> here is my xorg.conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/208076/) and my X.log (http://paste.ubuntu.com/208078/)
[12:58] <ziroday> jg_: upload it to imagebin, like bazhang asked you to
[12:58] <jg_> what do you mean
[12:58] <sniff__> or nvidia-settings or similar from ati :) if amd has made one
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> discorpia:  you may want to check out --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config#hal  also
[12:59] <jg_> what is imagebin
[12:59] <ziroday> !imagebin | jg_
[12:59] <bazhang> http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add   <------- jg_
[12:59] <discorpia> Dr_Willis: thanks mate
[12:59] <sniff__> no ecryptfs experts then?
[12:59] <JediMaster> _Claus: thanks
[12:59] <jg_> ok il upload that feakin image now
[12:59] <discorpia> sniff__: i'll take a look at it, thanks
[12:59] <jg_> wait a min
[12:59] <_Claus> JediMaster NP
[12:59] <jg_> and send me that command to terminal so i can take a screenshot
[13:00] <ziroday> jg_: dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-nonfree
[13:02] <jg_> i have sent it
[13:02] <ziroday> jg_: we need the URL
[13:02] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/54270
[13:02] <bazhang> jg_, give us the link
[13:02] <ziroday> jg_: you didn't show us a youtube video
[13:02] <jg_> ooh
[13:03] <jg_> you ment that
[13:03] <jg_> ok wait
[13:03] <ziroday> jg_: note a youtube video, not the youtube homepage
[13:04] <sabgenton> is it old school now to make a boot partion
[13:04] <sabgenton> I seem to see guides with out making a boot partion
[13:04] <jg_> hello here it is
[13:04] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/54271
[13:04] <sabgenton> is that cause of grub2
[13:05] <jg_> people have you seen it
[13:05] <eurythmia> sabgenton, boot partitions may be "old school," but they're still not a bad idea. Especially if you compile custom kernels.
[13:05] <jg_> hello
[13:05] <sabgenton> yeah i have always used them
[13:05] <jg_> i need help
[13:05] <joebodo> flash is loaded if there's a black window
[13:05] <jg_> man havent you seen it yet
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <FloodBot2> jg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:06] <sabgenton> eurythmia: did legacy grub not support a system with out a seperate boot
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  I keep a boot partition.. to keep a 'mini' linux on :) for 'rescue' purposes or other specilized needs.. heh.
[13:06] <sabgenton> compared to modern grub
[13:06] <jg_> hello
[13:06] <jg_> anyone can you help
[13:06] <jg_> http://imagebin.org/5427
[13:06] <jg_> heres the link man
[13:06] <bazhang> jg_, dont repeat
[13:07] <ziroday> jg_: flash is installed.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  grub supports a /boot/ so did lilp
[13:07] <eurythmia> sabgenton, nope ... grub always supported not having a boot partition
[13:07] <jg_> yes what the prob then
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> sabgenton:  lilo had limitations that often made it where you HAD to have a /boot/ partition at the start of the hard drive
[13:07] <bazhang> jg_, you have compiz running?
[13:07] <humbolt> laptop-mode-tools and acpi-support are not part of a jaunty standard install anymore, are they?
[13:07] <jg_> whats compiz
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | jg_
[13:07] <humbolt> after so many upgrades, I need to clean up my system a bit
[13:07] <bazhang> jg_, desktop effects, like wobbly windows, the cube and so on
[13:08] <jg_> oh its a desktop efect
[13:08] <bazhang> jg_, alt f2 metacity --replace
[13:08] <sabgenton> Dr_Willis: I spose lilo is fine now
[13:08] <jg_> whats metacity
[13:08] <sabgenton> too
[13:08] <bazhang> jg_, just do that  ---> alt f2  metacity --replace
[13:08] <jg_> whats metacity
[13:08] <tdn> I have just installed a virtual installation of ubuntu with ubuntu-vm-builder. I have started it with "run.sh", but it only gives me console access. How do I start it with X?
[13:08] <jg_> how
[13:09] <jg_> there is no button called metacity
[13:09] <bazhang> jg_, use the alt and f2 keys
[13:09] <jg_> ok
[13:09] <bazhang> then type metacity --replace
[13:09] <jg_> and theres written run in terminal
[13:09] <jaahii76> helou
[13:10] <jg_> ok
[13:10] <jaahii76> can you help me?
[13:10] <jg_> ok i did
[13:10] <jaahii76> my mouse not work
[13:10] <jg_> so now what happend
[13:10] <bazhang> jg_, reload the youtube page now
[13:10] <jg_> ok 2secs
[13:11] <jg_> its still black
[13:11] <jg_> i presed alt f2 then i typed in metacity --replace
[13:11] <jaahii76> laptop acer 3100 mouse and usb not works
[13:11] <joebodo> jg_ what happens if you right click on flash window ?
[13:11] <jg_> where is the flash window
[13:12] <BigMack83> anyone using the pagination module?
[13:12] <joebodo> jg_ where the video is supposed to be
[13:12] <jaahii76> run application?
[13:12] <jg_> oh
[13:12] <bazhang> jg_, what is your native language
[13:12] <jaahii76> finland
[13:12] <jaahii76> ati xpress1100
[13:12] <jg_> i am half turkish half pakistani but live in denmark
[13:13] <jg_> dudes
[13:13] <jaahii76> what write this terminal
[13:13] <jg_> i have to go
[13:13] <jg_> il  be back in 10min
[13:13] <jaahii76> kukaan suomalainen?
[13:14] <gregre> how can i deinstall a binary programm wich i installes by ./name
[13:14] <xukun> I have sony bravia kdl-40w4500 which supports 24p. I think I need to adjust the modlines for xorg.org so the tv do 24p. Anyone an idea?
[13:14] <bazhang> jaahii76, you wish the Finnish channel?
[13:14] <joebodo> gregre try ./name --help
[13:14] <jaahii76> hmm ok
[13:14] <jaahii76> :D
[13:14] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fi jaahii76
[13:16] <ims> jaahii76, Alt+F2 >>Alt+t  >>in terminal Type: sudo shutdown -r now
[13:17] <giaco> what's the "backports" repository?
[13:18] <jpds> !backports | giaco
[13:18] <bazhang> !backports > giaco
[13:18] <humbolt> since when is SHIFT+LeftMouseButton in nautilus not marking the endpoint of a selection, but opening a dir in the dir tree?
[13:18] <Zopiac> i can't get frostwire to work on Jaunty 32bit, i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m462f2f13
[13:19] <Zopiac> im guessing i have the wrong java version, or something
[13:20] <joebodo> Zopiac more like a classpath issue
[13:20] <shesek> anyone known if Adimex's EW-7326Ig (PCI Wifi) should work on ubuntu?
[13:20] <shesek> it seems like they're providing linux drivers
[13:20] <shambat> I like pico/nano but there is no support for extended chars like the scandinavian chars æ ø å ... any command line text editor that supports them?
[13:20] <Zopiac> joebodo: do you know how to go about fixing it?
[13:21] <joebodo> Zopiac is this started by a script ?
[13:21] <Zopiac> joebodo: only by typing 'frostwire' into a terminal
[13:23] <aseemshakuntal> hello
[13:23] <fabzor3> howdy
[13:23] <aseemshakuntal> i am good how do you do
[13:24] <joebodo> Zopiac the app is not able to find the jars needed to run - you could see if frostwire is a script - if so, take a look at it and see if it defines the  location for the jars
[13:24] <shesek> anyone known if Adimex's EW-7326Ig (PCI Wifi) should work on ubuntu?
[13:24] <jg_> hello
[13:24] <jg_> again
[13:24] <jg_> i need help
[13:24] <Zopiac> joebodo: what do you mean, like, look at the /usr/bin/frostwire folder?
[13:24] <Zopiac> er, file
[13:24] <jg_> hello
[13:24] <jg_> i need help
[13:25] <joebodo> Zopiac - type: 'which frostwire' - that will show the location of the command
[13:25] <jg_> why cant i extract rar files
[13:25] <salil__> jg, repeat your question
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> !unrar | jg_
[13:25] <rski> jg_: because you haven't learned yet
[13:25] <Zopiac> joebodo: it is /usr/bin/frostwire, i was just asking
[13:26] <Zopiac> joebodo: it is a script, copying to pastebin....
[13:26] <jg_> Look i downloaded a rar file so it says file archive not supported
[13:26] <joebodo> Zopiac here's a link that shows how to fix the problem you are having: http://forum.frostwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6241#p23108
[13:26] <Zopiac> joebodo: http://pastebin.com/m1e39bd3b
[13:27] <jg_> why dosent anyone want to help me
[13:27] <jg_> rski
[13:27] <jg_> rski
[13:27] <discorpia> jg: are you sure the archive is not broken?
[13:27] <jg_> there is written    Could not open "ne94kg_45.rar"
[13:27] <jg_> Archive type not supported.
[13:27] <discorpia> try apt-get install rar
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  you install the unrar tools.
[13:28] <jg_> i dont have the unrar tools
[13:28] <jg_> do you have to have them
[13:28] <rski> that's a good idea to have them yes
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  they are in the repositories like 99.9999% of the tools you will need.
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> I always install them.
[13:28] <jg_> ok then send me a link
[13:28] <masrukhin> join?
[13:28] <jg_> with tem
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  they are in the repositories.. no need to download them from some link. Use the package manager tools to install them
[13:29] <giaco> I'd like to use libgl1-mesa-dri package from karmik because the stable in 9.04 is broken fro my graphic card. How can I download this package and all the dependencies automatically?
[13:29] <jg_> what is repoistories
[13:29] <Zopiac> joebodo: only one problem
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> !repo | jg_
[13:29] <Zopiac> joebodo: the /usr/lib/frostwire/runFrost.sh file that i need to edit doesnt exist
[13:29] <jg_> what is that
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  they are the main servers/system wher eyou get new programs from.
[13:29] <bazhang> jg_, please read the links given to you
[13:30] <AdvoWork> anyone recommend a network plan/tool(for representing comps/ips) in a graphical way, for ubuntu?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  the whole 'package manager' system is oneof the MAIN thints that make linux so much easier then windows.
[13:30] <jg_> I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  so fire up synaptic and look for  the 'rar' tools and install them
[13:30] <bazhang> jg_, lose the caps
[13:30] <jg_> I dont understand plz tell me in private
[13:30] <joebodo> zopiac that's not good :) maybe install didnt complete sucessfully ?
[13:31] <salil__> jg_, Please check the links that ubottu gave you.
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> jg_:  time to go read some ubuntu  docs then i guess.  I dont PM. and i dont read docs to people.
[13:31] <bazhang> jg_, read some of the links first
[13:31] <jg_> ok
[13:31] <bart416> AdvoWork, EtherApe
[13:31] <jg_> send some of the links THEN
[13:31] <Zopiac> joebodo: maybe i have to do it before i open it up the first time? idk, it says 'before you run frostwire' in the forum
[13:31] <bazhang> jg_, scroll up
[13:31] <salil__> jg_, ubottu gave you!!
[13:31] <Zopiac> joebodo: im uninstalling/reinstalling it, just in case
[13:32] <joebodo> the install should have created the script -
[13:32] <joebodo> ok
[13:32]  * Dr_Willis counts like 7 links...
[13:32] <jg_> i dont have time to sit and read like a nerd.. i need to know it instant now i h
[13:32] <hemanth> need help on http://pastebin.com/m10a6d322
[13:32] <bazhang> jg_, you need to read. Nothing happens in an instant.
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> 08:30 | Dr_Willis > jg_:  so fire up synaptic and look for  the 'rar' tools and install them
[13:32] <salil__> jg_, ubuntu only for nerds.. :)
[13:32] <Zopiac> jg_: just try to be patient :) help is not always readily available at a touch of a button
[13:32] <jg_> anyway thnx for the help
[13:33] <jg_> i am hacker lol
[13:33] <bazhang> jg_, not here
[13:33] <jg_> lol im jokin
[13:33] <jg_> but ty for help
[13:33] <jg_> cya friends
[13:33] <Zopiac> joebodo: hm, didnt work, and i just installed
[13:33] <jg_> omfg rood people
[13:33] <salil__> lol
[13:34] <raddar> i wonder how old he was
[13:34] <aurilliance> do MS .Net applications work under wine anyone?
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  ive heard they can.. but they never do...
[13:34] <bazhang> aurilliance, check the appdb
[13:34] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  i barely get them to work in windows.. :) (i HATE .net)
[13:34] <bazhang> !appdb > aurilliance
[13:34] <aurilliance> raddar: darn, did I just miss a funny rant/troll/etc ?
[13:34] <aurilliance> ty all 3 :P
[13:34] <raddar> aurilliance yeah
[13:34] <aurilliance> he
[13:34] <aurilliance> *h
[13:35] <Zopiac> joebodo: hm, another post seems credible, ill give it a shot
[13:35] <joebodo> k
[13:35] <adhel> h5j5tj6
[13:37] <seb9r> could someone help me installing the fglrx driver? got several unsolvable problems with it,even after much googling
[13:37] <aurilliance> seb9r: what does the fglrx driver do? OpenGL stuff?
[13:38] <Zopiac> joebodo: oh cool it worked, thanks for the link :D
[13:38] <seb9r> ye its a driver for ati graphic cards
[13:38] <joebodo> excellent
[13:38] <aurilliance> seb9r: ah. sorry, nvidia here ;P
[13:39] <aurilliance> ;( *Has the "blank tty screen" bug... *bump* lol
[13:39] <armagheddonsgw> ok my hard disks are working again, but my dvd drives arent. how do i mount a dvd drive using the sudo mount ______ -o force?
[13:39] <seb9r> well could you maybe tell me why sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesnt work exactly? i just got some questions concerning my keyboard
[13:40] <Titan8990_> !doesntwork | seb9r
[13:40] <bart416> ok, how the hell do you put the kde clock on 24 hours :|
[13:40] <armagheddonsgw> LOL
[13:40] <aurilliance> lol
[13:40] <raddar> i like this 1 !
[13:40] <gastly> lol
[13:41] <aurilliance> bart416: is there any context menu?
[13:41] <armagheddonsgw> yeah ok how do i get my problem fixed? (mounting dvd drives using force)
[13:41] <aurilliance> I remember doing it by right clicking or so
[13:41] <bart416> yeah, but it doesn't have an option for it aurilliance
[13:41] <seb9r> i just mentioned it, i just get some questions concerning my keyboard but not every questions mentioned in the ubuntu wiki
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> bart416:  in time/date settings.. then you ahve to  logout/back in or some how restart the clock - i recall.
[13:41] <Dr_Willis> bart416:  the #kubuntu guys proberly can tell you exactly how
[13:42] <bart416> there is somebody alive over there? :P
[13:42] <seb9r> my xorg.conf is pretty minimal too...i dunno why
[13:42] <seb9r> its just Section "Device"
[13:42] <seb9r> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[13:42] <seb9r> EndSection
[13:42] <seb9r> Section "Monitor"
[13:42] <seb9r> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[13:42] <seb9r> EndSection
[13:42] <FloodBot2> seb9r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> bart416:  i gave up on Kde 4. so no idea.
[13:43] <armagheddonsgw> alright, let me rephrase my problem: whats the terminal command for mounting a dvd drive? (primary)
[13:43] <aurilliance> bart416: yep, alive and kicking here ^
[13:43] <Byron_> bart416, I used to be alive
[13:43] <EdgEy> armagheddonsgw, try /dev/sr0 /dev/cdrom0
[13:43] <armagheddonsgw> ok ty
[13:43] <EdgEy> so like mount /wherever /dev/sr0
[13:43] <histolo2> Question: will cannonical upgarade to firefox 3.5 in there repo?
[13:43] <EdgEy> err sorry other way around
[13:44] <aurilliance> histolo2: why is it an issue
[13:44] <aurilliance> ?
[13:44] <lucianogp> anybody noticed in Ubuntu when installing ff-3.5 that window alerts produce the drums sound that usually appears when you have to log in?
[13:44] <armagheddonsgw> uh guys i have a dvd1 and dvd2 in my /dev folder
[13:44] <armagheddonsgw> (2 dvd drives)"
[13:44] <histolo2> I just wanna know should i wait a few days or upgrade thru the mozilla ppa
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> histolo2:  id just wait.
[13:45] <aurilliance> same
[13:45] <aurilliance> (Dr_Willis)
[13:46] <histolo2> So word is it'll be upgraded soon (unlike oo.org where we had to wait to ubuntu 9.04)
[13:46] <seb9r> couldnt someone tell me why my xorg.conf is that minimal and im not able to reconfigure it completly? :o
[13:46] <lucianogp> I read in a blog it's just a couple of days away
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  the new X versions auto-configure for the most part.
[13:46] <histolo2> ok thanks guys
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  or use the hal fdi configs for tweaking
[13:47] <seb9r> the problem is that i cant install my ati drivers probably due to that
[13:47] <seb9r> it just says Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[13:47] <seb9r> and installing the driver  just causes my ubuntu not to boot anymore
[13:47] <hemanth> webcam help needed  http://pastebin.com/m10a6d322
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:    ati drivers should auto-configure also automatically. however ATI has dropped many cards from their 'fglrx' drivers.. so you just use the radeon/ati Open sourced driver for those cards now.
[13:48] <seb9r> i have the x850xt which is actually supported
[13:49] <armagheddonsgw> uh guys whats the filesystem for an optical drive?
[13:49] <seb9r> and im just wondering why there isnt a ati entry anywhere if its auto-configured
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> armagheddonsgw:  iso9660 or 'udf' normally
[13:49] <armagheddonsgw> ok
[13:49] <armagheddonsgw> so just sudo mount -t udf <mountpoint> -o force yes?
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  its  auto configured as X loads.. i have systems with no xorg.conf file at all..   it dosent auto-configure as in 'generates a xorg.conf'
[13:50] <om26er> hi plz tell me is there a way to set my other hardrive to automatically mount at startup
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  you may want to check the forums for tha texact card.
[13:50] <seb9r> ah alright
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> om26er:  edit /etc/fstab with a proper line for that drive.
[13:50] <seb9r> how can i check if opengl and directcd works?
[13:50] <seb9r> direct3d*
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> !ati | seb9r
[13:51] <armagheddonsgw> ah screw it. ty for the help guys
[13:51] <derek6711> hi
[13:52] <seb9r> i followed all these instructions already and it didnt work
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  ati drivers are often in a 'unstable' state it seems..
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  so it mah be the ati drivers/that card/ have issues
[13:52] <derek6711> yes they are
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> one very big reasin i now only use nvidia
[13:52] <zugiart> good evening, everyone!
[13:52] <seb9r> the strange thing is that the driver actually worked about 2 months ago
[13:52] <derek6711> i have a vista that the screen freezes on with an ati graphics card
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> seb9r:  new X versions.. new atti driver versions....
[13:53] <Johnneylee> Hello, can I get some help with something?
[13:53] <derek6711> depends...
[13:53] <seb9r> when i use this aticonfig--initial or smth comand it just says that i dont have a compatible video card
[13:53] <om26er> Dr_Willis: can u plz give me an example
[13:53] <seb9r> but concerning lspci | grep VGA i got one
[13:53] <arand> !ask | Johnneylee
[13:53] <Johnneylee> I have a goal of setting up a mail server.
[13:53] <derek6711> ok...
[13:53] <derek6711> continue
[13:54] <derek6711> got any programs you want to use
[13:54] <Johnneylee> I have looked into it and attempted quite a few times.
[13:54] <derek6711> what program
[13:54] <Johnneylee> I have no preferences.
[13:55] <Johnneylee> I'd like to send an recieve mail to my domain name.
[13:55] <derek6711> ill see what i can dig up
[13:55] <Johnneylee> Thank you.
[13:55] <Johnneylee> I'm stoked that I set up my x11 forwarding through ssh.
[13:55] <zugiart> question on SMBMOUNT: what will happen if I smbmount-ed a directory over and over again? e.g. 1) smbmount from a windows share to a dir. 2) smbmount from a windows share to the same dir AGAIN. is this bad? and if so how can I check if there's anything mounted on that dir already or not ?
[13:56] <seb9r> dr_willis, could you tell me why my graphic card does not show up in system -> hardware drivers?
[13:56] <derek6711> i am assuming you have the desktop version of ubuntu
[13:56] <seb9r> or is that normal?
[13:56] <Johnneylee> Can you use smb sharing across the internet?
[13:56] <om26er> hi plz tell me is there a way to set my other hardrive to automatically mount at startup
[13:56] <zugiart> johneylee: yes you should be able to. It will be slow tho
[13:57] <arand> !fstab | om26er
[13:57] <seb9r> could anyone tell me why my graphic card ati x850xt does not shopw up in system -> hardware drivers?
[13:57] <derek6711> om26er, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/
[13:58] <Johnneylee> The reason I ask is I am setting up a server that will allow people to sign up and get a home directory with a shell I made and I wanted people to be able to mount it in smb as well as ftp and a few other options.
[13:58] <humbolt> copying large files seems to pretty much stall my system. what is going on there?
[13:58] <humbolt> it never was like that
[13:58] <seb9r> could anyone tell me why my graphic card ati x850xt does not shopw up in system -> hardware drivers?
[13:58] <hemanth> Cannot open video device /dev/video0 : No such file or directory
[13:58] <tw3ak> what's the ubuntu chat name?
[13:59] <LTAFF> holy
[13:59] <humbolt> something seems awfully wrong
[13:59] <arand> tw3ak: #ubuntu ?
[13:59] <jack30> hiiii
[13:59] <tw3ak> not support just chat
[13:59] <arand> !ot
[14:00] <tw3ak> thanks
[14:00] <seb9r> could anyone tell me why my graphic card ati x850xt does not shopw up in system -> hardware drivers?
[14:00] <LTAFF> CUS ITS BROKEN
[14:00] <tw3ak> no such channel
[14:00] <seb9r> my graphic card isnt broken for sure because it worked just 1 day ag
[14:00] <LTAFF> #offtopic
[14:00] <seb9r> o
[14:00] <Myrtti> tw3ak: #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[14:01] <LTAFF> #offtopic !!!!!!!!!!
[14:01] <bart416> seb9r, is your motherboard chipset actually fully supported?
[14:01] <Myrtti> LTAFF: behave
[14:01] <seb9r> im sure it is because it all worked 2 months ago
[14:01] <LTAFF> But ish tru :<
[14:01] <seb9r> lspci | grep VGA shows my graphic card as well
[14:01] <EdgEy> how can i stop ubuntu thrashing the system to copy files
[14:01] <EdgEy> like throttle the copy or something
[14:01] <seb9r> but it just doesnt show up
[14:02] <EdgEy> if i copy files from one HDD to another, everything is unusable, browser can take minutes to load a web page
[14:02] <bart416> EdgEy, use a HDD controller that can do it without the processor?
[14:02] <seb9r> any suggestions bart416?
[14:03] <humbolt> EdgEy: I am having the same problem suddenly!
[14:03] <Myrtti> EdgEy: use rsync?
[14:03] <humbolt> EdgEy: do you use ext4?
[14:03] <EdgEy> humbolt yes but not on the drive i am copying from
[14:04] <bart416> seb9r, try to manually force it?
[14:04] <EdgEy> i use ext4 for my main partition and ext3 for data
[14:04] <seb9r> ye i tried following the instructions on ati.com
[14:04] <humbolt> EdgEy: no ext4 involved in the copying process then
[14:04] <seb9r> i caused my pc not to boot anymore
[14:04] <EdgEy> humbolt nope
[14:04] <bart416> seb9r, try the instructions on the ubuntu wiki :P
[14:04] <seb9r> there just appeared some strange colors
[14:04] <seb9r> tried them as well
[14:04] <EdgEy> it happens if i copy ext3->ext3, ext3-> ntfs, ntfs-> ext3
[14:04] <seb9r> but they start with
[14:05] <seb9r> Enable accelerated the accelerated ATI graphics driver in the restricted-manager, then do:
[14:05] <seb9r> and as i said i cant enable them because they does not show up
[14:05] <LTAFF> Help! when i run ubiguity i get error message :<
[14:05] <LTAFF> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:05] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127
[14:05] <seb9r> because my graphic card does not show up *
[14:05] <humbolt> EdgEy: hmm, this was my first suspect, as that is all I changed since I am seeing this behaviour
[14:05] <humbolt> have to check my noatime settings ...
[14:06] <LTAFF> Halp!
[14:06] <rski> !help
[14:06] <LTAFF> :O
[14:07] <Kangarooo> uestion about apt-get.. in ysnaptic I installec openbox so I could try it.. now it made some session save and opens automatically xchat and firefox in gnome. I wanted to remove openbox but in synaptic if complete remove then only 2 packages will be removed but it installed more.. I don't want no dirt left.. I want clean.. so I try in terminal sudo apt-get purge openbox and it still show that it wants to remove only 7741 kB and only 2 pacages.. but it al
[14:08] <indy_> hi all
[14:08] <derek6711> hi
[14:08] <indy_> need some help with my samba setup
[14:09] <indy_> for some reason i can't browse the window shares using nautilus
[14:09] <indy_> keeps saying cannot mount
[14:09] <derek6711> indy_, does it prompt for a password
[14:09] <indy_> and yet if i do a smbclient -L i can see the shares
[14:10] <Kangarooo> indy_: I had same problem.. I think its broken.. I could find help also..
[14:10] <bart416> Kangarooo, the other packages might be dependencies of other software as well
[14:10] <bart416> ;)
[14:10] <indy_> derek6711: not anymore
[14:10] <indy_> i turned off the password for shared files in Vista
[14:10] <derek6711> indy_, did you check the permissions of the share on the actual computer and check the workgroup?
[14:10] <indy_> Kangarooo: hope not...
[14:11] <boss_mc> Kangarooo: try removing it with aptitude (sudo aptitude remove blah)
[14:11] <boss_mc> Kangarooo: or using sudo apt-get auto-remove after removing it with apt-get
[14:12] <indy_> ok..it's removed
[14:12] <Kurlon> Is there a way to increase the time required for X to call a mouse click a 'drag' event?
[14:12] <derek6711> indy_, so you made it public, that never seemed to work for me even with windows
[14:12] <LTAFF> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:12] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127
[14:13] <derek6711> i need help putting applications in the menu
[14:13] <joebodo> indy_ i can succesfully use my windows shares - but i have windows XP
[14:13] <indy_> i've always though something is definately strange with vista
[14:13] <derek6711> i installed a program called gtkatlantic but i cant seem to figure out how to put it into the games menu
[14:14] <indy_> now i've removed it what shall i do next?
[14:14] <LTAFF> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:14] <Kangarooo> boss_mc: remove will do the same thing as purge. purge also purges. so ok ill purge then..
[14:14] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:14] <gauravsrf> is there any way to delete the file permanently from hard disk without any way to recover it  ? mean to say that any way by which it's being deleted and can not be recovered by any tool or software
[14:14] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:14] <FloodBot2> LTAFF: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:14] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:14] <Thingymebob> derek6711: System>Preferences>main menu
[14:14] <boss_mc> Kangarooo: you could try deborphan after (it looks for packages that were installed as dependencies but their dependant is now gone)
[14:15] <arand> gauravsrf: There's a shred tool I think
[14:15] <joebodo> derek6711 use the preferences->main menu to configure menu entries
[14:15] <Exile> hey has anyone got a minute? I'm trying to install gnome on ubuntu server
[14:15] <derek6711> joebodo, so i just add it in the menu using that gui?
[14:15] <desertman> hi
[14:15] <Exile> hey
[14:15] <joebodo> derek6711 yup
[14:15] <modderx> isn't gnome included in a meta-package?
[14:16] <derek6711> joebodo, ok that is the same thing i did on the panel
[14:16] <jschiff> modderx: ubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <derek6711> joebodo, i also have another problem
[14:16] <indy_> kangarooo: shall i reinstall samba?
[14:16] <Exile> I dont know, I'd like to avoid doing something like apt-get install ubuntu-desktop as it installs aload of stuff I dont want
[14:16] <derek6711> joebodo, i have a game called domination it is a form of risk
[14:16] <Exile> I just want gnome running on my server
[14:17] <Exile> any ideas how I go about this?
[14:17] <derek6711> joebodo, it is a java file that i cant figure out how to run so i created a command shortcut
[14:17] <modderx> like apt-get install gnome-desktop yeah thanks jschiff
[14:17] <modderx> sorry
[14:17] <modderx> disregard the apt comment
[14:17] <jschiff> modderx: like apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[14:17] <jschiff> yeah np
[14:17] <Exile> well
[14:18] <Exile> I tryed  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and that didnt work
[14:18] <Kangarooo> indy_: well I haven't yet experienced that bug is lost by removing and intalling again.  but if some files are lost then that will put files back in polace and that means it will work
[14:18] <derek6711> joebodo, it is a jar so i combined a cd command with a java command
[14:18] <Exile> so like that
[14:18] <Exile> but working
[14:18] <Exile> lol
[14:18] <Exile> I just ran  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop on a server terminal
[14:18] <Exile> and it still wouldnt boot into gnome
[14:18] <derek6711> joebodo, and when i start the shortcut it opens a terminal and says error creating child processes
[14:18] <Exile> even when I type startx
[14:18] <naiad> I just installed ubuntu-desktop 9.04 and it seems ipv6 is compiled into the kernel directly instead of a module.  My router doesn't seem to want to give it any connetion at all.  Fromwhat Im reading the only way to disable it is to recompile the kernel?  (ive tried a few kernel options in menu.lst but it doesnt seem to help)
[14:18] <Kangarooo> Exile: sudo put in start.. sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desk and press TAB it will autocomplete
[14:18] <joebodo> derek6711 you may be able to do this : java -jar <name of jar>
[14:18] <derek6711> joebodo, here is the command
[14:19] <jrib> Exile: did you try starting gdm?
[14:19] <derek6711> joebodo, cd ~/bin/Domination; java -jar Domination.jar
[14:19] <Exile> no I'll try that before doing Kangaroos suggestion
[14:19] <joebodo> derek6711 give this a try: java -jar ~/bin/Domination/Domination.jar
[14:19] <derek6711> joebodo, There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[14:19] <discorpia> i'm giving up and going back to xp for now, already spent two workdays on trying to get this fixed. i've tried ati cards, nvidia cards and vesa drivers but i find no way to make xorg recognize the resolutions my monitor can handle
[14:20] <discorpia> thanks everyone for the help and links
[14:20] <jrib> discorpia: you've read !fixres?
[14:20] <joebodo> derek6711 you can try from the command line first to see if it works correctly
[14:20] <Exile> ok jrib I got start: Unknown job: gdm
[14:20] <discorpia> !fixres
[14:20] <jrib> Exile: what did you type...?
[14:20] <Exile> start gdm
[14:20] <jrib> Exile: sudo service gdm start
[14:21] <derek6711> joebodo, it doesnt appear to have done anything
[14:21] <Exile> ubottu I am using the server version
[14:21] <LTAFF> gnome-session!
[14:21] <discorpia> jrib: yeah, and tried all the nvidia guides, i just can't get X to accept my monitor as anything else than either A) wronlgy identified EDID monitor with max resolution of 1024 or B) generic device with max res of 640
[14:21] <Kangarooo> Exile: installing is possible with supermegadmin acceptance only.. and it can be given only with command sudo.. it then asks for password.. why like that? so no auto spy virus installation without permission is possible.
[14:21] <joebodo> derek6711 did you try from command line ?
[14:21] <gauravsrf> sorry didn't find that any other way to delete as such
[14:21] <derek6711> joebodo, i am right now
[14:22] <Exile> jrib I got unrecognised service
[14:22] <Exile> what you mean I am root?
[14:22] <jrib> Exile: apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop
[14:22] <derek6711> joebodo, that worked but why wont the shortcut work
[14:22] <joebodo> derek6711 hmm - maybe try putting in the full path to your jar -
[14:23] <Exile> it says its not installed
[14:23] <joebodo> derek6711 instead of the ~
[14:23] <derek6711> joebodo, the terminal just disappears
[14:23] <Exile> ok kangarooo I have been doing all this as root
[14:23] <Kangarooo> Exile: yes only root can install programms. so to install use in front of installation use sudo
[14:23] <jrib> discorpia: you should pastebin what you tried after reading !fixres and the results (description and logs), if you still want help
[14:23] <naiad> can anyone confirm i have to download a new version of the kernel to disable ipv6 on 9.04 as i dont see the sources available through the disc?
[14:23] <mindframe-> anyone maintaining the firefox-3.5 package in 9.04?
[14:23] <joebodo> are you using just: java -jar ... (without the cd command) ?
[14:23] <gauravsrf> is there any way to delete the file permanently from hard disk without any way to recover it  ? mean to say that any way by which it's being deleted and can not be recovered by any tool or software
[14:24] <hateball> gauravsrf: shred
[14:24] <jrib> Exile: you should get in the habit of reading output from commands you type
[14:24] <Kangarooo> ah ok then its installed.. Exile: maybe restart and change session.. session manage has some other then gnome as default? press button session at login screen and there choose
[14:24] <Exile> jrib I am using putty
[14:24] <jrib> gauravsrf: read « man shred »
[14:24] <derek6711> joebodo, /usr/share/themes/Glossy/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:49: error: lexical error or unexpected token, expected valid token
[14:24] <Exile> can I copy and paste
[14:24] <Exile> ?
[14:24] <Exile> beacuse it wont let me
[14:24] <Kangarooo> Exile: !pastebin
[14:24] <jrib> Exile: so you're on windows?
[14:24] <Kangarooo> www.pastebin.lv
[14:24] <joebodo> derek6711 another way to do this is put the command in a script file, set the perms on the file like chmod +x scriptname
[14:25] <spc> damn im planning to make me a htpc or better a multimedia pc i tryed kubuntu (but its paint when watching videos from lan, it copies them first) so i tryed ubuntu which is a bit better but i have problems on (k)ubuntu with my cheap labtec wirless keyboard.so anyone can suggest me some good distro or sth to test?
[14:25] <Kangarooo> ups Exile www.pastebin.com
[14:25] <joebodo> derek6711 then use that script for the menu entry
[14:25] <derek6711> joebodo, how can i make it run the java files
[14:25] <Exile> no I am on a ubuntu desktop box ssh'd into my ubuntu server that I am trying to install gnome on
[14:25] <derek6711> joebodo, instead of the jar
[14:25] <Exile> sorry should have said
[14:25] <Exile> I am also using putty
[14:26] <joebodo> derek6711 you basically put in the script exactly what you did from the command line to get it to work
[14:26] <derek6711> joebodo, what do you mean
[14:26] <Exile> I could take screenshots?
[14:26] <Boohbah> Exile: why would you install gnome on a server?
[14:26] <om26er> plz tell me how to set my other harddrive to automatically mount at startup. i dont know how to edit fstab
[14:26] <LTAFF> ALL HAIL CLI!!!!
[14:26] <Exile> because I need to run a windows application
[14:26] <jrib> !fstab | om26er
[14:26] <joebodo> !fstab | om26er
[14:27] <Kangarooo> spc: xubuntu is good but if you have been using linux for long time then try crunchbang its more ligher then xubuntu but it needs more experience.. or you'll be asking questions all the time :)
[14:27] <joebodo> om26er it's pretty easy actually
[14:27] <derek6711> joebodo, how can i put it in the games menu and make it use its picture as well as run the run.sh
[14:27] <Exile> this to be precise http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/
[14:27] <hateball> !apache | Exile
[14:27] <joebodo> derek6711 you can assign a new icon for the menu entry by dragging a picture into the menu command icon window
[14:27] <arand> gauravsrf: "info shred"
[14:27] <hateball> ugh, that was overkill for apache...
[14:28] <om26er> joebodo: if i give u my fstab in the pastebin can u edit it for me plz
[14:28] <LTAFF> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:28] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127
[14:28] <joebodo> derek6711 you also configure the games menu from preferences->main menu
[14:28] <derek6711> joebodo, where?
[14:28] <LTAFF> >:*
[14:28] <spc> Kangarooo thanks for info.i didnt tryed xubuntu but i think is not so different from ubuntu.also one thing driving me mad is remote desktop work.since i have effects enabled vnc is not working ok.some sort of bug...u suggest sth?
[14:28] <derek6711> joebodo, drag a picture from where
[14:28] <jrib> gauravsrf: you should read the man page REALLY closely.  Especially about its comments on journaled file systems
[14:28] <Boohbah> Exile: sounds like apache with a DirectoryIndex does the same thing much simpler
[14:29] <Exile> ok can users upload remotly?
[14:29] <joebodo> derek6711 youll need to have a picture file for what you want displayed in the menu
[14:29] <Exile> via a web broswer?
[14:29] <Exile> browser?
[14:29] <joebodo> derek6711 doesnt seem to work consistently though
[14:29] <Exile> and no other software?
[14:29] <derek6711> joebodo, it comes with a globe picture but where does it get it
[14:29] <spc> Kangarooo also i hate kubuntu network manager since i have to disable it in order to get my iptv working on another lan card.
[14:29] <Exile> if so that might be a better way to go about it
[14:29] <Boohbah> Exile: with an ftp server
[14:30] <joebodo> derek6711 not sure - to put in games menu, go to preferences->main menu click on games in the left side, then click new item
[14:30] <haytham-med> hi all, gpg error
[14:30] <haytham-med> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208140/
[14:30] <Exile> you see I really would like to keep the users in a browser beacuse it means I have to show a load of people how to use a ftp client
[14:30] <Exile> otherwize
[14:30] <Kangarooo> spc crunchbang has same network manager as ubuntu and xubuntu so that's why I give 1 whole star for all theese..
[14:31] <Exile> so is it even possible to install a gui like gnome or kde on ubuntu server?
[14:31] <derek6711> joebodo, found the picture
[14:31] <rski> Exile: yes
[14:31] <jrib> Exile: I don't see how the two are related.
[14:32] <jrib> Exile: more specifically, what does gnome have to do with allowing users to upload files with a web browser remotely?
[14:32] <haytham-med> Hash Sum mismatch, how to solve that?
[14:32] <jrib> haytham-med: context?
[14:32] <LTAFF> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:32] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:32] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:32] <FloodBot2> LTAFF: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <LTAFF> Inhibit all polling failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ubiquity --desktop %k gtk_ui
[14:32] <haytham-med> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208140/
[14:32] <Exile> wine
[14:32] <Thingymebob> haytham-med: Try changing the server back to the main one
[14:33] <Exile> the app I want use to needs wine
[14:33] <jrib> Exile: are the users going to be physically using the server machine?
[14:33] <Kangarooo> Exile: yes. you can also use just desktop ubuntu as server but some extra lemmon of traffic speed/calculations will be slowwe then
[14:33] <haytham-med> ok
[14:33] <short__error> Good morning i was wondering how to get  /usr/lib/win32/ ???
[14:34] <Exile> one sec guys
[14:34] <Exile> gotta take a phone call
[14:34] <derek6711> joebodo, does gimp work to convert the picture from .ico to .svg?
[14:35] <joebodo> derek6711 not sure - if not you can use an online image converter - there are many
[14:35] <spc> Kangarooo nice this crunchbang but why should i go for lighter distro since my hw is quite good.
[14:35] <Boohbah> Exile: there are tons of open source CMS's that can do the file upload within the browser
[14:35] <derek6711> joebodo, i have a .png and .ico can either work for icons
[14:36] <bazhang> spc, Kangarooo please discuss non-Ubuntu distros in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:36] <joebodo> png should work
[14:36] <Boohbah> Exile: without the need for X, gnome, wine
[14:36] <derek6711> joebodo, sweet, i got it to work
[14:36] <Exile> sorry about that guys
[14:36] <Exile> ok
[14:36] <joebodo> cool
[14:37] <Exile> like what?
[14:37] <derek6711> joebodo, thanks for all your help
[14:37] <joebodo> np
[14:37] <Exile> I am linux n00b
[14:37] <om26er> i typed this  in fstab but the partition was not mounted automatically
[14:37] <Exile> so have still got all these windows apps in my head
[14:37] <short__error> I am needing help installing the TSP codec????
[14:37] <Kangarooo> spc: global warming.. moving 1mb on internet takes one coal..
[14:37] <haytham-med> sorry, another problem, how to solve this update gpg error: http://www.linuxac.org/forum/attachments/forum45/8247d1246536005-screenshot-untitled-window.png
[14:37] <Exile> like what boohbah?
[14:37] <bazhang> !ot > Kangarooo
[14:37] <om26er> /dev/sda1 /media/ssd auto rw,noauto,user,sync 0 0
[14:37] <Boohbah> Exile: i am googling, one sec
[14:38] <Boohbah> Exile: what type of files will you be dealing with?
[14:38] <Exile> no jrib users will not be physicaly using the machine
[14:38] <joebodo> om26er have you tried mounting using command line ?
[14:38] <Exile> I wish I could say
[14:38] <om26er> no i edited fstab file
[14:38] <Exile> many types
[14:38] <Exile> some I dont even know
[14:38] <Boohbah> ok
[14:38] <jrib> Exile: then you don't need a gui like gnome or kde, it will not help you
[14:38] <justanothercoder> is there anyway to open a new terminal shell in a tab of an existing terminal window, rather than opening a new window everytime.?
[14:38] <justanothercoder> from the commandline
[14:39] <joebodo> om26er does your mount point exist ? the /media/ssd ?
[14:39] <Johnneylee> I'm using James mail server from apache and I was wondering if someone could provide me the command to start it?
[14:39] <haytham-med> anyone
[14:39] <om26er> yes
[14:39] <qe2eqe> justanothercoder, it depends on the term you're using. Convention seems to be ctrl+shift+t for vt's that support it
[14:39] <Exile> ok
[14:39] <Exile> the reason I t
[14:39] <Exile> think I wanteda gui
[14:39] <justanothercoder> qe2eqe : i want to know how to do it from the command line
[14:39] <Exile> was beacuse I had it all working in a desktop version of ubuntu
[14:39] <Thingymebob> hatham-med: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152619
[14:39] <Exile> heres what we have
[14:39] <haytham-med> ok thanks
[14:39] <Exile> we have a file server
[14:40] <jrib> justanothercoder: check gnome-terminal --help.  It suggests --tab
[14:40] <joebodo> om26er one sec - i mount an ssd on another machine - ill get the fstab entry
[14:40] <tel0s> not necessarily an ubuntu question, but how would i make this multiple line command, span one line (it's so i can use it ina  python script)  http://debian.pastebin.com/ma3d5e64
[14:40] <Exile> that windows users can just drag & drop files onto
[14:40] <om26er> joebodo: ok
[14:40] <jrib> !enter | Exile
[14:40] <Exile> once sorry guys
[14:40] <jrib> Exile: what software is it using?
[14:41] <discorpia> jrib: thanks mate, but i think i've pasted about 7-8 pastebins/xorg.conf/X.log.0 and all the tips (including all guides i've followed where i try to override EDID) has failed
[14:41] <jrib> discorpia: ok
[14:41] <short__error> I am needing help installing the TSP codec????
[14:41] <discorpia> jrib: my problem is that this model reports corrupt EDID and that i can't seem to find a way to get xorg to ignore it
[14:41] <jrib> discorpia: modelines
[14:41] <tel0s> not necessarily an ubuntu question, but how would i make this multiple line command, span one line (it's so i can use it ina  python script)  http://debian.pastebin.com/ma3d5e64
[14:41] <justanothercoder> jrib : its not working for me somehow
[14:41] <Exile> ok we have a file server that windows users can drag & drop files onto. These files would automaticly be browseable via web broswer for off site access. users can also upload via browser.
[14:42] <Exile> jrib it was using bartpe
[14:42] <jrib> tel0s: delete the \'s and join the lines?
[14:42] <Exile> a kind of like windows
[14:42] <qe2eqe> justanothercoder, I never got my head around sending commands to running processes. I have no idea how firefox knows to use same process with new window, but that script might be a place to start...
[14:42] <tel0s> jrib: tried that. it doesnt work :S
[14:42] <jrib> Exile: but you had to be running some software on the server?
[14:42] <discorpia> jrib: yeah, used cvt to generate modelines, didn't work. X.log didn't even mention it
[14:42] <jrib> tel0s: you didn't do it correctly then.  Pastebin
[14:42] <Exile> then I got it all working on a ubuntu-desktop machine
[14:42] <Exile> yeah hfs
[14:42] <Exile> http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/
[14:42] <FloodBot2> Exile: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:42] <joebodo> om26er sorry - did that on another machine that's not with me currently
[14:42] <jrib> discorpia: again, you should pastebin this stuff
[14:43] <tel0s> jrib: ok one second
[14:43] <discorpia> jrib: i have, i have been here the whole day :D my browser history is filled with my own pastebins
[14:43] <jrib> Exile: i see, it's it's own server
[14:43] <jrib> discorpia: ok, but *I* cannot help you then
[14:43] <discorpia> jrib: true
[14:43] <Exile> yeah sorry I should have explained
[14:43] <jrib> -'
[14:43] <om26er> joebodo: yes??
[14:43] <h00k> Does anybody know of - I had heard the answer once and forgot - I have download speeds that start at full speed and slow down to bytes per second, something with Cisco equipment
[14:44] <h00k> and TCP window
[14:44] <tel0s> jrib: http://debian.pastebin.com/m2642967a
[14:44] <Boohbah> Exile: there must be some similar software for linux but i'm having trouble finding it.
[14:44] <Exile> I litteraly had what I wanted working on a live bartpe windows cd, but I wanted to get the same working under ubuntu
[14:44] <Sirisian|Work> Where do you report old or corrupted packages in the package manager?
[14:44] <jrib> tel0s: how does that show me that it doesn't work?
[14:44] <Exile> I know I cant belive there isnt somethingout there
[14:44] <joebodo> om26er sorry i did it on another computer that's not with me
[14:44] <Boohbah> Exile: it's just that all that excess graphical stuff running on a server will slow it down
[14:45] <joebodo> om26er my daughter's eeepc
[14:45] <Exile> thanks for your effort Boohbah
[14:45] <tel0s> jrib: thought you wanted to see the command i used, one moment.
[14:45] <jrib> tel0s: anyway, you didn't copy it right.  Look at line 4
[14:45] <Exile> sure but I have enough power for that to be not a problem
[14:45] <Exile> of course if you know a better solution I dont mind trying things
[14:45] <tel0s> jrib: that extra "-"?
[14:45] <jrib> tel0s: s/extra//
[14:46] <om26er> joebodo: i am giving u my fstab in the pastebin check it
[14:46] <om26er> joebodo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/208145/
[14:47] <tel0s> jrib: http://debian.pastebin.com/m234e6f4d correct now?
[14:47] <Exile> hmmmmm
[14:47] <jrib> tel0s: looks ok to me
[14:47] <tel0s> jrib: I'll test it now
[14:48] <Exile> can I use ubuntu-desktop as a server and remove the unnecessary packages?
[14:48] <tel0s> jrib: may I ask how that - affects the command? it seems like its passing an argument like -l or -v but without the character? wtf
[14:48] <Exile> I know this isnt ideal
[14:48] <iiii> does anybody know how to use external displays on the eee 701?
[14:48] <jrib> Exile: you might try the php channel or some other server-side scripting language to see if there exists something similar
[14:48] <jrib> tel0s: -O - tells wget to send the output to stdout
[14:49] <tel0s> jrib: ah ok, many thanks.
[14:49] <aethelrick> Exile: yes, in short you can
[14:49] <Sirisian|Work> Another quick question. Where is dpkg-buildpackage? Is it in build essentials or something? or dpkg-dev ?
[14:50] <aethelrick> Exile: I'd suggest adding a firewall if you're going to put your ex-desktop-now-server out on the web as well
[14:50] <jrib> Exile: I'd describe what you are looking for as a web interface for a file server
[14:50] <Exile> ok on top of my router firewall?
[14:50] <joebodo> om26er ur sure sda1 is correct ?
[14:50] <Sirisian|Work> oh nvm it is in dpkg-dev
[14:50] <Exile> yeah I need a webbrowser interface for a samba file server to be exact
[14:50] <om26er> yes
[14:51] <joebodo> om26er and what's the file system formatted as ?
[14:51] <om26er> do i have to use #
[14:51] <Exile> this is another problem
[14:51] <Exile> some is ntfs
[14:51] <Exile> some fat
[14:51] <Exile> some ex
[14:51] <iiii> could someone please tell me how I'd go about using an external display on an asus eee 701 w/ Ubuntu?
[14:51] <FloodBot2> Exile: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:52] <Exile> ubuntu seems to be the only thing that can reliably read and write them all
[14:53] <frostburn> Exile, you can do that on any linux os with apache
[14:53] <derek6711> om26er, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/
[14:53] <discorpia> jrib: http://pastebin.com/m598f2f73 this is my X.log.0 .. (my xorg.conf is currently barebone nvidia http://pastebin.com/mb2d264b), and this is the results i get from xrandr (http://pastebin.com/m1daccb1f)
[14:53] <aethelrick> be careful writing to NTFS, it's a minefield
[14:53] <jrib> Exile: if you need it for samba, then try the samba channel?  They're more likely to know about such a thing
[14:53] <discorpia> jrib: the xrandr commands are based on the !resfix url
[14:54] <Exile> ok thanks for your help guys
[14:54] <Exile> I think I'm gonna try a few things as you have given me a few ideas
[14:55] <derek6711> does anyone know how to resize a partition that is currently running the OS?
[14:55] <Titan8990_> derek6711, can't resize mounted partitions, unless it is an LVM volume
[14:55] <Exile> thanks jrib, frostburn, aethelrick, Boohbah, ubottu, Kangarooo, and rski for all your help!
[14:56] <Kangarooo> Exile: im continuing... slower then without gui.. with gui of course its easyer.. but gui takes little cpu and now we have global warming.. so maybe use cloud computing or.. maybe this is also possible... my friend installed just server without gui on virtual server and maybe its possible to manage from other comp with gui?
[14:56] <derek6711> Titan8990_, well i made a 5 or 6GB partition for ubuntu because i didnt know if i would like it but i now wish it was 14GB with is half my HD
[14:57] <derek6711> Titan8990_, if you can find a way i could care less about the windows that is only my other partition
[14:57] <Cynner> New web browser based game, check it - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844
[14:57] <Marticus> so...
[14:57] <LogicalGhost> Hello
[14:58] <Marticus> what are some good UCP books?
[14:58] <derek6711> Titan8990_, could i boot from a live cd and do it that way?
[14:58] <joebodo> Marticus: what's UCP
[14:58] <LogicalGhost> Quick newbie question: I'm trying to move a file from one folder to another but it says "permission denied." What do I do?
[14:59] <Marticus> ubuntu certified professional
[14:59] <Rovanion> Hello there guys. I need to set up my Ubuntu to send some pritty picures trough an S-Video cable to my TV. How do I do this with the opensource ATI-drivers?
[14:59] <tel0s> LogicalGhost: sudo !!
[15:00] <derek6711> LogicalGhost, DEPENDS upon where you are trying to move it
[15:00] <Marticus> I think I need LPI first though
[15:00] <jrib> discorpia: are you able to set the resolution you want using nvidia-settings?
[15:00] <derek6711> LogicalGhost, you may have to get root permissions to move it there which can be obtained by sudo
[15:00] <hemanth> need help to fix my webcam badly
[15:00] <lianimator> how do I make Sound Recorder record my output channel?
[15:00] <LogicalGhost> derek6711: from the desktop to lib/modules/2.6.28.11-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[15:01] <LogicalGhost> tel0s: I'm trying to just drag and drop, I don't know how to do it via terminal
[15:01] <derek6711> LogicalGhost, you will probably need root and find some way of copying the file via terminal
[15:05] <hemanth> OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV519 WebCam any tried hacking with it
[15:05] <NE> derek6711: no. When creating the partition, you will have to tell the partitioner that you want it to be of type ext3
[15:05] <derek6711> that was a nice cleanout
[15:05] <te_> Rovanion: Did you find an answer yet?
[15:06] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone tell me how i can access .7z files...i am unable to access .7z files
[15:06] <NE> derek6711: just as you know that a ntfs partition is not such because it's name/label is such :)
[15:06] <derek6711> NE, what is the ubuntu partition
[15:06] <ghang>  hi , my VIM come up some probelm so i wanna to reinstall , but I cannot remove or reinstall my vim with always pop up this message " E: vim: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 " .
[15:06] <Rovanion> te_: Nope, googling as hard as I can but I cannot find anything
[15:06] <c64camper_> STARTKEYLOGGER
[15:06] <Rovanion> te_: Do you have  a clue?
[15:06] <NE> derek6711: most probably it's ext3
[15:07] <NE> derek6711: you can see it with "sudo fdisk -l
[15:07] <derek6711> NE, ty
[15:07] <NE> (take the " away)
[15:07] <te_> Rovanion: I found some discussion about it and appears that you just set proper settings in xorg.conf file and it will play.
[15:07] <Rovanion> te_: Hmm okey, can you send me then link?
[15:08] <derek6711> NE, /dev/sda1   *           1        2687    21583296    7  HPFS/NTFS
[15:08] <derek6711> /dev/sda2            2688        3648     7719232+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[15:08] <derek6711> /dev/sda5            3316        3648     2674791    7  HPFS/NTFS
[15:08] <derek6711> /dev/sda6            2688        3281     4771242   83  Linux
[15:08] <derek6711> /dev/sda7            3282        3315      273073+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[15:08] <Rovanion> !paste
[15:08] <Kartagis> how can I set the default browser?
[15:08] <NE> derek6711: your sda6 is your ubuntu partition
[15:09] <te_> Rovanion: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/peripherals-hardware/29096-ati-radeon-7200-s-video.html
[15:09] <derek6711> NE, so my sda7 is my extension
[15:09] <jrib> Kartagis: system -> preferences -> default applications
[15:09] <wangyadong> hello
[15:09] <NE> derek6711: no. That's the swap partition. Consider it the swap file of windows. Leave it untouched!
[15:09] <derek6711> Kartagis, i think you can do that inside the browser when you open it or in the preferences
[15:10] <Kartagis> thank you jrib
[15:10] <derek6711> NE, so sda2 is my extension because i already extended it when i installed the OS
[15:12] <derek6711> NE, my extension shows up on windows
[15:12] <_Claus> hi all.. Anyone know how to change the ACPI suspend command to trigger a power off instead?
[15:12] <AssociateX> what is like ifconfig but for wireless?
[15:12] <NE> derek6711: yes. sda2 is your extended partition where you have sda5 as the logical partition, say, your D: drive
[15:13] <derek6711> NE, so sda5 is what i am taking from
[15:13] <NE> derek6711: yes
[15:13] <te_> Kartagis: The alternate method suggested by derek6711 is correct.  Edit > Preferences > Advanced >
[15:13] <chocobanana> Hi everyone!!!!!
[15:13] <Juppp> AssociateX, iwconfig
[15:14] <derek6711> te_, thank you
[15:14] <Kartagis> thank you derek6711
[15:14] <te_> derek6711: No, thank YOU!
[15:14] <Kartagis> and te_
[15:14] <m477> ubuntu-pl
[15:14] <m477> #ubuntu-pl
[15:14] <derek6711> te_, im flattered, lol
[15:14] <derek6711> Kartagis, no problem
[15:14] <AssociateX> Juppp: thank you
[15:15] <derek6711> NE, how do you suppose i go about thsi
[15:15] <derek6711> NE, this
[15:15] <Marticus> any UCPs here?
[15:15] <derek6711> whatever that is...
[15:15] <indus> whats ucp
[15:15] <te_> Marticus: What is your question(s)?
[15:15] <Marticus> http://www.ubuntu.com/training/certificationcourses
[15:15] <Dulak> Ubuntu Certified Professional iirc
[15:15] <JeZ-l-Lee> Anyone running ubuntu Linux 9.04 32bit in VirtualBox? kinda stuck on something
[15:16] <Marticus> te_: just looking for recommended books
[15:16] <hemanth> which is the best way to voice chat with gtalk users from ubutnu ?
[15:16] <chocobanana> JeZ-l-Lee: you should go ahead and ask the question
[15:16] <NE> derek6711: you could either use any windows software to shrink your logical partition and then create the new partition in the free space provided, or you can see to do it in ubuntu using gparted.  As ubuntu doesn't use that partition (unless you have it mounted) you'd be able to modify it.
[15:16] <MK13> JeZ-l-Lee, what's ur problem?
[15:16] <MK13> !ask | JeZ-l-Lee
[15:17] <Marticus> is there a more appropriate irc channel for ucp discussion?
[15:17] <derek6711> NE, i set it to automatically mount but i can unmount easy
[15:17] <NE> derek6711: nothing mounted is modifiable. Only viewable.
[15:18] <derek6711> NE, my other sources say it is easier just to reinstall the whole thing because it isnt too customized yet
[15:18] <Rovanion> No luck there. Is there anyone here who knows how to set up a second display with the open source ati driver?
[15:19] <derek6711> NE, so i cant mount the new partition and call it a extension until i boot from a live cd?
[15:19] <NE> derek6711: well that's a choice actually. If the ubuntu system doesn't have much in it and you don't loose stuff from reintalling, that could prove easier. This other way though, gives more oportunity to learn things.
[15:19] <Boohbah> i can't run 'ionice -c3 /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate' even as root. Fails with 'ioprio_set: Operation not permitted.' does root have to be in some group to do this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=147944
[15:20] <fiver22> updated to firefox 3.5 which is branded as 'shiretoko' -wondering if this will update automatically (well, via update notifications) or if by installing this I'm stuck with the shiretoko branding.
[15:20] <lianimator> suppose I have an OGV file and an MP3, how do I merge them together into one video file? e.g. mpg or avi?
[15:20] <derek6711> NE, i have maybe 6 or 7 programs but my e-mail and messenger all set up
[15:20] <kad_> heya need help why when i log in i see volume ALSA is always mute i remove silent and restart the same and i check the chkconfig -l  alsa-utils                0:off  1:on   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off
[15:20] <kad_>  thx
[15:21] <intangir> lianimator: i think mencode can do stuff like that
[15:21] <NE> derek6711: in ubuntu, you can do anything with a partition, till you mount it. So you can shrink your sda5 for eg, create your sda8 for eg, make it be an ext3 partition, format it as such, then mount it and start using it :)
[15:21] <te_> lianimator: audacity
[15:21] <intangir> or mencoder or something
[15:21] <lianimator> te_: I can do Video in audacity?
[15:21] <sjokkis> hi. when i go to the network tab in the gnome file manager, and try to access the shares in the workgroup i'm part of (WORKGROUP), i'm prompted for a username and password. i'm not sure what username/password that would be. it doesn't accept my login credentials for either the machine i'm on or the one that shares files
[15:21] <te_> lianimator: oh no... sorry
[15:21] <skullhacks> no you cant do video in audacity
[15:21] <skullhacks> lianimator
[15:21] <lurk1> Hi, im running ubuntu 9.04, trying to connect me phone to do some file transfer only mobile internet connection thing popps up, cant find the device to do some transfers...
[15:21] <Marticus> I guess there isn't much interest in certifications here
[15:22] <NE> derek6711: no reboots are required so far.
[15:22] <derek6711> NE, but doesnt that make it slow if it is an extension?
[15:22] <tel0s> lurk
[15:22] <tel0s> lurk1: unplug it, and replig it in, opena  terminal and type dmesg and see if a new drive is detected and allocated a device
[15:22] <derek6711> lurk1, does it recognize it
[15:23] <Lord-Readman> hello when I create a .htaccess file I get an internal server error, no matter what is inside the file.
[15:23] <NE> derek6711: well. that depends on the hard disk, the driver running it and such. I can't give consel in this. But partitioning like this are common in linux world.
[15:24] <lurk1> telos, i get bunch of stuff on that command
[15:24] <kad_> heya need help why when i log in i see volume ALSA is always mute i remove silent and restart the same and i check the chkconfig -l  alsa-utils                0:off  1:on   2:on   3:on   4:on   5:on   6:off
[15:24] <derek6711> Ne, cool
[15:24] <tel0s> lurk1: near the bottom it should mention a /dev/ when you plug it in
[15:24] <ZykoticK9> lianimator, check out AVIDEMUX (it's in the repo) - it "should" do what you want.  Good luck.
[15:24] <_fynn> hi.. i recently updated to the 2.6.30 kernel because of performance problems with the intel driver.. i removed the 2.6.28 kernel.. but now the update manager always wants to reinstall 2.8.28 updates.. is their a way to tell apt not to update this?
[15:25] <tel0s> lurk1: if you are having difficulty using dmesg, try "sudo fdisk -l" and see if the device is in the list.
[15:25] <Boohbah> using ubuntu 8.04 i can't run 'ionice -c3 /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate' even as root. Fails with 'ioprio_set: Operation not permitted.' does root have to be in some group to do this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=147944
[15:25] <Bojangles37> does anyone know how to get ubuntu 8.10 to mount my phone memory card?
[15:25] <saliak> anyone good with/understand postfix?
[15:25] <fiver22> kad_ don't know if this is the right solution for you or not but you could try: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sound-solutions-for-ubuntu-904-jaunty-users.html#more-1301
[15:25] <derek6711> NE, that soothes me a little
[15:25] <krishna> where are the bookmarks from firefox tored  /? is it a text file that can opened and readable ??
[15:26] <derek6711> NE, i also heard i should perform a defrag on it before resizing it
[15:26] <lurk1> tel0s, no differrence plugged in our out...
[15:26] <NE> derek6711: well, there's comon also that the / filesystem is in one partition, the /home in another,  the /var in another, the /usr in another, and /boot in another :)
[15:26] <Boohbah> krishna: ~/.mozilla/firefox/something.default/bookmarks.html
[15:26] <edbian> derek6711: It is generally a good idea but it is not necessary.
[15:26] <tel0s> lurk1: Im unsure what the issue is then :( hope someone else can help you :D
[15:26] <NE> derek6711: yes. the soon-to-be-shrinked partition should be defraged
[15:26] <ZykoticK9> krishna, it's an HTML file - it's in ~/.mozilla/firefox/PROFILENAME/bookmarks.html
[15:27] <Boohbah> saliak: sure, i was editing my main.cf earlier
[15:27] <armagheddonsgw> ¬_¬ ok, im having serious issues with this pile of crap. windows XP is not detecting the partitions on my slave hdd, external hdd and isnt detecting my 2 optical disk drives. ive tried mounting them manually in ubuntu. it hasnt helped in XP.
[15:27] <derek6711> NE, what is Var and usr have in it
[15:28] <fiver22> hey _kad: was that link any help?
[15:28] <krishna> ZykoticK9, that doesnt have any of my bookmakrs ? :(
[15:28] <krishna> ZykoticK9, i have only one profile.. the default
[15:28] <krishna> ZykoticK9, but it just has a word called "bookmarks"
[15:28] <Bojangles37> can somebody please help me to get ubuntu to recognize my phone?  if i plug it in USB, it does not show on the desktop and i cannot get it to mount the memory card
[15:28] <NE> derek6711: mostly system stuff. You keep it under /  unless you know you want them in separate partitions. What you will be doing is moving /home in the new partition.
[15:28] <saliak> boohbah - coolio.  do you have a local smtp server setup?
[15:28] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Anything you do in ubuntu is likely to not have an effect on the way XP behaves.  From the sound of it ubuntu is finding all of these drives that windows is missing correct?  Then I would say it's safe to rule out hardware error.  Maybe look at the jumpers on the drives themselves?  Make sure they're set to cable select.
[15:29] <derenrich_> !ff35
[15:29] <derek6711> NE, i might consider it
[15:29] <AJC_Z0> Is there a Gnome setting for the bell, as in "xset b"?
[15:29] <edbian> derek6711: /var stands for variable meaning files that change in size often.
[15:29] <armagheddonsgw> edbian its purely a software issue. the system has been fine in its current hardware configuration for 2 years.
[15:29] <ZykoticK9> krishna, I have no idea - but there "should" be an html file in the path that Boohbah and I gave you.  Don't know why it wouldn't be there sorry.
[15:29] <NE> derek6711: your call there.
[15:29] <Rovanion> Is there noone here who knows how to do a dual monitor setup in 9.04 with the open source ATi drivers? There must be someone
[15:29] <metalfan_> hi
[15:29] <metalfan_> how can i change the apt mirror from the console?
[15:30] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: When did windows stop seeing these drives?  Is there anything you changed that might have caused it?
[15:30] <armagheddonsgw> reinstalling all my OSs would fix it, but its not a viable option due to licensing issues.
[15:30] <armagheddonsgw> this morning.
[15:30] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Unfortunately this is ubuntu support so if ubuntu doesn't have a problem you're really in the wrong channel.
[15:30] <derek6711> NE, i know some1 that does that for all there music
[15:30] <krishna> !ff35 > krishna
[15:30] <thyri> .g apt mirror
[15:30] <AAAI> thyri: http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/
[15:30] <piasdom> g'mornin all
[15:31] <edbian> derek6711: /usr I believe is for common user files like program binaries etc etc
[15:31] <NE> derek6711: I have my /home/username/downloads  as a separate partition :)
[15:31] <saliak> boohbah - so, my deal is that i'm trying to get outgoign mail to work.  i'm using comcast as an isp, and they've blocked port 25.  to get email to go out, i need to relay through an external server (rhgt)?
[15:31] <armagheddonsgw> edbian the issue is preventing ubuntu from running off my hard disk.
[15:31] <armagheddonsgw> im running it off the liveCD atm
[15:32] <thyri> !apt mirror > matalfan_
[15:32] <AJC_Z0> saliak: As a client you should connect to the submission port (587) of their mail server to relay
[15:32] <piasdom> is there an alarm in hardy to let me know a certain time?
[15:32] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Explain to me in more detail please :).  What are your partitions on these drives?  Where is ubuntu.  Which drive to you boot from etc etc.
[15:32] <edbian> drive do you*
[15:32] <POPEYE> I've installed Ati drivers and now ubuntu9.04 just hangs up when it goes to gui
[15:32] <thyri> .g ubunut alarm
[15:32] <AAAI> thyri: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntu-alarm-clock
[15:32] <AJC_Z0> saliak: Are you sure they are blocking 25 for the mail relay? That seems unlikely
[15:32] <ghostofaphoenix> Hi all!
[15:33] <saliak> ajc_z0 - comcast blocks all port 25 access
[15:33] <piasdom> thyri: thanks
[15:33] <Titan8990_> AJC_Z0, very common practice in the US
[15:33] <derek6711> NE, prevents viruses
[15:33] <armagheddonsgw> alright. i have 5 partitions on the master hdd, 2 on the slave. the external is all 1 partition and my dvd drives.... well... theyre exactly that. ubuntu is on the second partition in the slave drive. the bios finds it without difficulty but doesnt boot it correctly
[15:33] <Titan8990_> saliak, that only effects incoming SMTP however, if you want a SMTP server, you do need to use a smarthost
[15:33] <Titan8990_> saliak, but it will be against your ToS regardless
[15:33] <POPEYE> how to disable automatic gui startup
[15:33] <POPEYE> &
[15:33] <POPEYE> ?
[15:34] <NE> derek6711: and provides a fast way to backup/move-around/replicate all what I have there.
[15:34] <armagheddonsgw> ubuntu was installed within windows.
[15:34] <Titan8990_> POPEYE, remove splash and quite from the kernel line in menu.lst
[15:34] <saliak> ajc_z0 - so i'm trying to run RT on my local server.  i need my system to be able to send out emails with various "from" addresses
[15:34] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: What do you mean "doesn't boot it correctly"?  Would the bios boot the slave drive if it had windows on it?
[15:34] <thyri> .g ubuntu grub
[15:34] <AAAI> thyri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:34] <AssociateX> what gives cc1plus?
[15:34] <Titan8990_> saliak, sounds malicous
[15:34] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Do you mean with wubi?
[15:34] <armagheddonsgw> ???
[15:34] <saliak> ajc_z0/tital8990_ - really? why so?
[15:34] <thyri> .g wubi
[15:34] <AAAI> thyri: http://wubi-installer.org/
[15:34] <derek6711> NE, that too
[15:35] <Titan8990_> saliak, just sounds useful to someone interested in relaying spam
[15:35] <derek6711> NE, say i wanted to make the whole thing an extension
[15:35] <armagheddonsgw> yeah with wubi
[15:35] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Are these all ntfs partitions?
[15:35] <derek6711> NE, could i associate the whole drive and moves the program files to it
[15:35] <armagheddonsgw> yes
[15:35] <derek6711> NE, make it an install directory
[15:35] <saliak> ajc_z0/tital8990_ - i guess that's true.  so maybe i'm not phrasing my question correctly.  i have a support@mygoogledomain.com address that i can use fetchmail to get email from, and have it entered into my rt system
[15:36] <_antarez> hi people....
[15:36] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Ok.  Wubi is kind of a hack just so you know.  Did you boot windows on the master drive and install wubi from there onto a new NTFS partition on the slave drive?
[15:36] <armagheddonsgw> yeah
[15:36] <saliak> ajc_z0/tital8990_ - and all that works great.  the issue is that all of the email generated from my server comes from support@mygoogledomain.com, even if it should be associated with aother address, say support@myothergoogledomain.com
[15:36] <armagheddonsgw> ubuntu made a 30gb file it uses as a hard drive.
[15:37] <Titan8990_> saliak, what are you using to generate the messages to be sent?
[15:37] <_antarez> anyone know anything about WISP?
[15:37] <NE> derek6711: well, you can do it but you will need to move stuff from the current place to the new one. The process is the same in all cases, but instead of moving your personal files, you'll be moving system files. Do you want to do that ?
[15:37] <AssociateX> .
[15:37] <ghostofaphoenix> So I am on a laptop running an older ATi Radeon card and ubuntu 9.04. The problem is that 9.04 works very nicely with my wireless card, but not my ATi Radeon card, but 8.04 works perfectly with my Radeon and not nice with my wireless.  Any suggestions?
[15:37] <thyri> .g WISP
[15:37] <AAAI> thyri: http://www.wispresort.com/
[15:37] <saliak> tital8990_ - RT (http://bestpractical.com/rt/)
[15:37] <_antarez> wireless ISP
[15:38] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: I don't think you can do that with wubi :).  I have no experience fixing wubi either :(.  I can however help you install ubuntu the correct way (on it's native filesystem).  Unfortunately this will replace (and erase all the data on) the current ubuntu wubi install (partition).
[15:38] <_antarez> i wanna set one up as a local community
[15:38] <derek6711> NE, i have 139MB let on this system
[15:38] <thyri> .wik Wireless isp
[15:38] <AAAI> "Wireless Internet Service Providers (WISPs) are Internet service providers with networks built around wireless networking." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_internet_service_provider
[15:38] <AssociateX> what gives cc1plus?
[15:38] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Would you like to do that?  Otherwise you can ask somebody else for help fixing wubi
[15:38] <armagheddonsgw> reinstalling all OSs is not viable. have you heard of SPORE?
[15:38] <Sonja> any Hebrew speakers in here?
[15:38] <saliak> tital8990_ - so i send an email to support@xitome.com, sits in a gmail box till my server grabs it, realized it's a new supprot ticket request, then genreates a response with a ticket #
[15:38] <_antarez> thanx
[15:38] <scunizi> ghostofaphoenix: the older driver in 8.04 works with your card .. the newer driver obviously doesn't.. if you can use the older driver
[15:38] <derek6711> NE, i want to at least get a few GB more
[15:38] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Yeah.  Is it a good game??
[15:38] <armagheddonsgw> yeah its alright
[15:39] <armagheddonsgw> i have 5 installs for it
[15:39] <saliak> tital8990_ - then when you respond via email, to support@xitome.com, it associates all the emails with that ticket record
[15:39] <armagheddonsgw> im already on the 5thy
[15:39] <armagheddonsgw> it will not install again.
[15:39] <NE> derek6711: what does this give?         sudo du -h -s /home
[15:39] <ghostofaphoenix> I read that the old driver does not work with X.Server 1.6
[15:39] <fiver22> anyone play the MUD Medievia? I'm looking for help with installing the font.
[15:39] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: All we'd have to do is replace 1 install.  The ubuntu wubi install.  Everything else would remain untouched.  Why do you need multiple OS's to play a game?  Ubuntu doesn't play spore natively anyway?
[15:40] <thyri> .g Ubuntu MUD medievia font install
[15:40] <AAAI> thyri: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193498
[15:40] <armagheddonsgw> windows plays spore. also i cant get my sound card to work on ubuntu due to drivers
[15:40] <saliak> tital8990_ - but i'd like to use the same rt installation to handle multiple queues from various email accounts, how do i get postfix to send using mutliple authenticated, outgoing accounts? i'm not even sure i'm using the right vocabulary
[15:40] <scunizi> ghostofaphoenix: you might be right.. I use nvidia so I don't keep up with the ati nuances.. you might just have to run the generic drivers
[15:40] <armagheddonsgw> even if there was a way to get ubuntu to run spore.
[15:41] <derek6711> NE, du: cannot access `/home/derek/.gvfs': Permission denied
[15:41] <derek6711> 278M	/home
[15:41] <metalfan_> armagheddonsgw, what soundcard is that?
[15:41] <djiezes> armagheddonsgw , edbian : ubuntu runs spore fine with WINE
[15:41] <armagheddonsgw> creative soundblaster.
[15:41] <metalfan_> armagheddonsgw, which one?
[15:41] <ghostofaphoenix> lol, ATi FTW!!! lol, j/k.  It makes it harder that my wife loves ubuntu so much more than windows.
[15:41] <DonaldShimoda> hi, somebody knows when will jaunty put firefox3.5 in the repos?
[15:41] <armagheddonsgw> elite pro.
[15:41] <nogagplz> armagheddonsgw, check the appdb for spore. http://appdb.winehq.org/
[15:41] <NE> derek6711: that means your personal files use only 278M. The rest is system files.
[15:41] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: I'm confused.  Why do you need multiple OS's to play a game?  see what djiezes said? ^
[15:41] <armagheddonsgw> no sound on ubuntu
[15:42] <metalfan_> armagheddonsgw, ok....dont know about that one. the "mainstream" soundblaster has great support
[15:42] <armagheddonsgw> nothing can be done about that as the necessary drivers do not exist.
[15:42] <derek6711> NE, and programs
[15:42] <scunizi> ghostofaphoenix: you could pop for a cheap nvidia card..
[15:42] <derek6711> NE, my downloads are considerable
[15:42] <ghostofaphoenix> it is a laptop. :(
[15:42] <derek6711> NE, my music is 2GB
[15:42] <edbian> metalfan_: He is using WUBI right now.
[15:42] <armagheddonsgw> already been down the route of trying to get sound to work on ubuntu. it didnt end well.
[15:42] <NE> derek6711: the downloads don't reside under /home ?
[15:42] <metalfan_> edbian, ok...im out.
[15:42] <derek6711> NE, that is on the other partition
[15:42] <thyri> .g ALSA Ubunut > armagheddonsgw
[15:42] <AAAI> thyri: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870001&page=29
[15:43] <derek6711> NE, they go to /home/derek/bin
[15:43] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: I still don't understand why you need 5 OS's to play spore?  Is there critical data on the ubuntu wubi install or not?
[15:43] <asteriskmonkey> anyone have issue with gtkterm not passing keyboard signal to the serial?
[15:43] <thyri> .g Pulseaudio >armagheddonsgw
[15:43] <armagheddonsgw> no theres not. the main issue is in XP but ubuntu may have the necessary tools to fix it.
[15:43] <AAAI> thyri: http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=870001&page=29
[15:44] <giaco> how can I force the reinstallation of an ubuntu package?
[15:44] <NE> derek6711: To what it seems so far, your /home and all within it, are on their turn under  /
[15:44] <derek6711> NE, my music is on the other partition under derek/my documents/my music
[15:44] <thyri> .g reinstall ubuntu > giaco
[15:44] <armagheddonsgw> for whatever reason, i cant mount the drives that XP CAN use in ubuntu
[15:44] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Ok. Do you want help getting a real ubuntu install?  I can't help you getting spore to work under windows.  If you ask a different ubuntu related question I can help with that too.
[15:44] <AAAI> thyri: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-232593.html
[15:44] <armagheddonsgw> urgh
[15:44] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: Ignore what I just said cause you answered it :)
[15:44] <derek6711> NE, ????
[15:44] <NE> derek6711: you have mounted that partition somewhere in /home/derek ?
[15:44] <edbian> armagheddonsgw: ubuntu can't mount your DVD drive?
[15:45] <armagheddonsgw> ubuntu cant mount either of them
[15:45] <armagheddonsgw> including the one the ubuntu liveCD is in
[15:45] <derek6711> NE, what partition
[15:45] <snif> Buenas dias ¿ sabeis por que alguien optaria por un Debian DVD que necesita diez horas para decargar por un Debian en CD que unicamente necesira 1:30 hrs ?
[15:46] <ptrm> hello
[15:46] <skullhacks> hie hie hie
[15:46] <skullhacks> whats up
[15:46] <scunizi> !es | snif
[15:46] <NE> derek6711: what does this give    sudo  mount | grep sd
[15:47] <ptrm> if the /dev/sda11 on /media/%1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal), kernel line should be ro root=LABEL=/%1 rhgb quiet ?
[15:47] <cranky> hey everybody, is gutsy still being updated?
[15:47] <ghostofaphoenix> I can't find a reliable package/driver to use for my wireless card for 8.04 :( I guess for now we will have to keep Vista installed and that makes me a sad panda.
[15:47] <sschneider> How does one get 9.04 to work on 64-bit intel?  (I have 9.04 installed, but it doesn't see all four gigs of my memory.)  I assume the amd64 release won't work.
[15:47] <derek6711> NE, /dev/sda6 on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[15:47] <derek6711> /dev/sda1 on /media/disk type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[15:47] <derek6711> /dev/sdb1 on /media/USB Disk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077,flush)
[15:48] <scunizi> sschneider: you assume wrong.. amd64 is the 64 bit release.. ALL 32 bit OS's won't see all 4 gigs
[15:48] <sschneider> scunizi: so I can install the amd64 on my intel box, eh?
[15:48] <scunizi> sschneider: yes
[15:48] <mikealeonetti> what package owns libSM.so.6?
[15:48] <sschneider> scunizi: thanks.
[15:49] <mikealeonetti> I'm missing it apparently
[15:49] <NE> derek6711: and this?    df -h | grep sd
[15:50] <Titan8990_> mikael79, sudo dpkg -S /usr/share/libSM.so
[15:50] <derek6711> NE, /dev/sda6             4.5G  4.1G  180M  96% /
[15:50] <derek6711> /dev/sda1              21G  6.1G   15G  30% /media/disk
[15:50] <derek6711> /dev/sdb1             7.5G  2.6G  5.0G  34% /media/USB Disk
[15:50] <qe2eqe> scunizi, what about 64-bit emulation?
[15:50] <scunizi> qe2eqe: ?
[15:50] <derek6711> NE, you really dont need to see my flaash drive, srry
[15:50] <Dulak> mikealeonetti: libsm6
[15:50] <derek6711> NE, forgot to censor it 4 u
[15:51] <mikealeonetti> Dulak: thank you
[15:51] <scunizi> qe2eqe: do you me running 32 bit programs on 64 bit ?
[15:51] <abbazabba> hey everybody, does anyone know if they are still updating gutsy gibbon through update manager?
[15:51] <Boohbah> using ubuntu 8.04 i can't run 'ionice -c3 /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate' even as root. Fails with 'ioprio_set: Operation not permitted.' does root have to be in some group to do this? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=147944
[15:52] <scunizi> !7.10
[15:52] <nsahoo> hey, you know the screen locker, that can have a picture? I want it to show the picture larger. Is it possible?
[15:52] <abbazabba> !eol
[15:52] <frozsyn> hi there! i've got a kernel panic while using the wifi, and I've found the trace in /var/log/kern.log (which do not happen often on my computer). As it seems to be a good source of information, I was wondering where is the good place to propose this (useful?) log
[15:52] <NE> derek6711: and your home was 278M you said.  hmmm. It seems like if it's not a chore for you to repartition and reinstall with a bigger partition for ubuntu, that's what you should do.
[15:52] <ghostofaphoenix> I just realized something, this laptop is AMD Turion 64x2 I have the 32-bit Ubuntu installed does it make a difference?
[15:52] <abbazabba> scunizi: think there is any way to get the last of the updates from them?
[15:52] <scunizi> ghostofaphoenix: for most uses no
[15:53] <masquerade> ghostofaphoenix: if it runs then it runs^^
[15:53] <masquerade> frozsyn: to propose?
[15:53] <NE> derek6711: take from your sda5 to give to your sda6
[15:53] <derek6711> NE, can i use spm to view all my installed files some how
[15:53] <ghostofaphoenix> lol, it does it run pristine!!! lol I want XBMC to work darn it!!!
[15:53] <scunizi> abbazabba: here's what's currently available as far as I can find .. http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:53] <derek6711> NE i need to reinstall windows so i can do that then reinstall ubuntu when i get my new CD in the mail
[15:54] <frozsyn> masquerade: sorry, I meant "to offer"
[15:54] <ghostofaphoenix> Is there a way to enable vsync with the open source driver used.
[15:54] <Botan|caR> hello
[15:54] <Botan|caR> I need free sheLL
[15:54] <masquerade> frozsyn: you mean a place to upload/paste the log?
[15:54] <Botan|caR> !!!
[15:54] <NE> derek6711: I don't think you'll have to reinstall windows. You're shrinking your other drive, not your C: (system) drive, right ?
[15:54] <abbazabba> scunizi: thank you sir
[15:55] <derek6711> NE, i have to the key is all screwed up
[15:55] <sheikh> hello
[15:55] <Botan|caR> can i get it
[15:55] <sheikh> i got a problem
[15:55] <masquerade> sheikh: hi
[15:55] <sheikh> ?
[15:55] <sheikh> hi
[15:55] <nareshov> http://picpaste.de/screen_help_please.png <-- can someone please explain what that "(@)" stands for?
[15:55] <NE> derek6711: that's some other story then
[15:55] <nareshov> bot-right
[15:55] <masquerade> sheikh: whats your question?
[15:56] <sheikh> i need to find user's LANG while logged in as root
[15:56] <derek6711> NE, i have that CD i just am waiting for my ubuntu cd cause i cant live without ubuntu now
[15:56] <masquerade> sheikh: sorry, cant help you with this
[15:56] <nareshov> and I get "10!" "15!" with a red bg sometimes
[15:56] <frozsyn> masquerade: no, I'm looking for a place where there is somebody who can do something useful with, like correcting the bug... launchpad seems good, but I don't really know which bug it is. So if anybody here has already bug report this wifi kernel panic problem...
[15:56] <nareshov> what does it represent?
[15:56] <Dulak> nareshov: @ is an op
[15:56] <derek6711> NE, only have been using it like a month or two and now i cant live without it
[15:56] <sheikh> masquerade: where should i ask this question?
[15:56] <nareshov> Dulak: i'm referring to screen
[15:56] <nareshov> not irssi
[15:57] <masquerade> sheikh: youre in the right channel
[15:57] <nareshov> look at bot-right please
[15:57] <NE> derek6711: lol. then use the time wisely, and read around for methods of partitioning, what to consider, etc.
[15:57] <masquerade> frozsyn: oh, alright. well, i dont know any other than launchpad
[15:57] <derek6711> i might split 14, 14
[15:57] <crdlb> nareshov: how did you enable that? that's not in a default screen instance
[15:57] <sheikh> there command i am using is this " su "username" -c env | grep LANG
[15:57] <sheikh> but this does'nt work on ubuntu
[15:57] <rais> HELP, i'm facing a problem with my usb mouse.it doesn't work after suddenly shutdown
[15:58] <sheikh> the command i am using is this " su "username" -c env | grep LANG
[15:58] <scunizi> sheikh: use sudo instead of su
[15:58] <bullgard4> '~$ ifconfig; ...; eth1 Link encap:Ethernet Hardware Address 00:16:6f:XX:XX:XX UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1, ..." What does "UP" mean here?
[15:58] <Dulak> narevshov: oh in screen @ signifies output from a screen in the background
[15:58] <jrib> sheikh: why shouldn't it work on ubuntu?
[15:58] <Dulak> narevshov: man screen and have a look at the monitor section
[15:58] <ignition> Hi! under ubuntu 8.10, 32bit, there you can specify if the java console should be shown when running a java application. under ubuntu 8.10, 64bit, i can't find this option.
[15:58] <scunizi> jrib: he's using su instead of sudo
[15:58] <edbian> rais: Try removing the mouse and re-plugging it.  Also try rebooting.
[15:58] <nareshov> crdlb: screen-launcher or screen-profiles, not sure which
[15:58] <jrib> scunizi: so?
[15:58] <masquerade> nareshov: what irc client is this?
[15:58] <sheikh> its returning english
[15:58] <metalfan_> why is there 2.6.27 on 8.10 and 2.6.28 on 9.04?
[15:59] <nareshov> Dulak: ok
[15:59] <sheikh> where as user's lang is german
[15:59] <NE> sheikh: what if you:  sudo "su - username" and then in that you do:  env | grep LANG      and then  exit ?
[15:59] <ignition> i need to see the java console in order to find out why a java web start application doesn't start up correctly.
[15:59] <sheikh> let me try
[15:59] <nareshov> masquerade: pardon me?
[15:59] <red_> hi
[15:59] <NE> sheikh: ah you are already root. Then just  su  instead of  sudo su
[15:59] <masquerade> nareshov: the screen shot you just posted
[15:59] <sheikh> i am already root so dont need to sudo it
[16:00] <jrib> sheikh: Why do you want to do this?  What's your end-goal?
[16:00] <NE> sheikh: yea. just become that user with    su - username
[16:00] <sheikh> because i use "sudo -s" before typing this command
[16:00] <masquerade> nareshov: i did feature an irc client, right?
[16:00] <derek6711> NE, from what i understand if i reinstall windows it will kill my grub
[16:00] <nareshov> masquerade: yes, irssi is running inside screen
[16:00] <Dulak> masquerade: it's irssi under screen
[16:00] <masquerade> nareshov: nice, thanks
[16:01] <NE> derek6711: well.... it will kill it yes. So read around how to restore it. You can, windows only overwrites the boot record, but if you don't explixitly delete your "unknown" partitions, you can rebuild the boot record with grub again.
[16:02] <sheikh> ultimate goal is to get "username"'s LANG while logged in as root
[16:02] <sheikh> ultimate goal is to get "username"'s LANG while logged in as root
[16:02] <javb> Is there anyway to get an specific screen resolution, without installing the ATI drivers, on my laptop? (just installed Ubuntu 8.04 LTS)
[16:02] <jrib> sheikh: I don't understand what you mean by "username"'s LANG.  What if the user changes it after logging in?
[16:02] <sheikh> suppose i m running my app. as root and i need to know certain user's LANG
[16:03] <sheikh> whatever the current LANG is
[16:03] <vegombrei> i have a question .. how do i install an icon pack thats taz.gz?
[16:03] <scunizi> javb: sometimes xrandr -S 1280x1024 (or whatever the rez should be)..
[16:03] <jrib> sheikh: what if it's different between terminals?
[16:03] <Marticus> anybody familiar with michael jang's books?
[16:03] <jrib> vegombrei: extract to ~/.icons/
[16:04] <sheikh> its can't be different bz that the user's language being set at login
[16:04] <NE> sheikh: what of this:        su -l username  -c "env | grep LANG"
[16:04] <Optimus55> does anyone know if there's a quick LAMP installer for ubuntu similar to WAMP installer on windows??
[16:04] <sheikh> yes i tried that but with no luck
[16:04] <Zapelius> I'm trying to get lenny boot off a PCMCIA-CF adapter, I have grub loading, kernel and initrd loaded, but the kernel can't find the CF attached in the PCMCIA slot, any suggestions for howto's ?
[16:04] <masquerade> Rolls 2 6-sided dice: 5 6
[16:04] <NE> sheikh: it works for me though....
[16:04] <javb> scunizi, Size 1366x768 not found in available modes
[16:04] <Zapelius> so far I've tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromPCMCIA
[16:04] <scunizi> javb: is this a laptop or desktop?
[16:04] <jrib> sheikh: no, what if he sets a different lang in GDM for instance... That won't be reflected in what you get with your su command
[16:05] <javb> scunizi, laptop.
[16:05] <vegombrei> jrib: thanks
[16:05] <masquerade> Flips a coin: HEADS
[16:05] <derek6711> NE, i will see how this all goes down, ty
[16:05] <sheikh> user will not set different LANG in my scenrio
[16:05] <NE> derek6711: no problem. Have fun with it :)
[16:05] <Marticus> I guess what I'm interested in is finding a book written by someone in the community, not some random author asked by a publisher to write a book on something about which he or she knows little
[16:05] <derek6711> NE, o ya, lots of fun
[16:06] <scunizi> javb: I'll have ubottu send a link for you.. there are suggestions there on how to proceed.. basically you need to get the appropriate resolution listed as available.. you might also have to list monitor specs in xorg.conf.. but check the link out..
[16:06] <derek6711> NE, i better start dumping my music
[16:06] <scunizi> !resolution | javb
[16:06] <shadows> test
[16:07] <masquerade> test
[16:07] <nareshov> font `/usr/share/figlet/success..flf' not found
[16:07] <javb> scunizi, please note that im trying to do this without installing the graphic card driver (ATI)... because the last time i installed it, i had weird problems...
[16:07] <NE> derek6711: hehe. Some stakes add to the thrill. anyhow, I'm out. take care all
[16:08] <scunizi> javb: yes and probably a smart thing to do.. avoid installing the ati driver that is.. xrandr is what you want to read about or randr
[16:09] <scunizi> javb: also if needed making the appropriate additions to xorg.conf
[16:09] <jrib> sheikh: then you already have your answer.  Use the su command
[16:09] <javb> thanks scinizi, lets read a bit.
[16:09] <sheikh> but su is not working
[16:09] <jrib> sheikh: yes it is.
[16:09] <sheikh> its just returning root LANG
[16:10] <sheikh> rather than user's LANG
[16:10] <traveller> hi, I'm running ubuntu 9..04 on my netbook. But I cannot connect to wireless network with wpa-psk
[16:10] <jrib> sheikh: have you changed root's lang and verified?
[16:10] <sheikh> yes
[16:10] <traveller> now I am windows and can connect without a problem
[16:10] <traveller> any ides pls?
[16:10] <shadows> traveller: is the wifi enabled in windows?
[16:10] <derek6711> sheikh, su is to become root but if you havent set the root password you wont know it
[16:10] <jrib> sheikh: you are running: su - USERNAME -c 'env | grep LANG'  ?
[16:10] <traveller> yes
[16:10] <derek6711> sheikh, sudo is the alternate
[16:11] <derek6711> sheikh, akternative
[16:11] <traveller> with ubuntu i can connect to wep/wpe2
[16:11] <sheikh> what command r u trying
[16:11] <shadows> traveller: hmm.. are you sure you use the same configuration as in windows?
[16:11] <traveller> but not to wap-psk
[16:11] <sheikh> remember u have to be logged in as "root"
[16:11] <traveller> yes
[16:11] <ziroday> traveller: what wireless card?
[16:11] <shadows> traveller: 1 second...
[16:12] <traveller> the thing in ubuntu is when i enter the password it changes it
[16:12] <sheikh> i cant use root because soln has to be independent of platform
[16:12] <traveller> w8t a sec to have a look
[16:12] <shadows> traveller: uh...? i have a call, wait one sec please^^
[16:12] <traveller> ok
[16:13] <om26er> how to set my other harddrive to automount at startup
[16:14] <om26er> i cannot understand the fstab
[16:14] <derek6711> om26er, hang on
[16:14] <ikonia> om26er: what's the issue with it ?
[16:14] <derek6711> om26er, ill give you a link
[16:14] <bullgard4> '~$ ifconfig; ...; eth1 Link encap:Ethernet Hardware Address 00:16:6f:XX:XX:XX UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1, ..." What does "UP" mean here?
[16:14] <te_> om26er: You must first create a mount point
[16:14] <flojan> is something like this still existing?
[16:14] <flojan>  http://kerneltrap.org/node/3822
[16:14] <flojan>  should be looking like this, but i want it in better quality: http://nightmonkeys.de/extern/pics/linuxcare.jpeg
[16:14] <sheikh> it has to work on all linux distros and sudo is specific for ubuntu
[16:14] <ikonia> om26er: if you look in the fstab you'll see a disk identified by uuid or a device name, then a mount point
[16:14] <om26er> te_ its created
[16:14] <ikonia> bullgard4: device up
[16:15] <sheikh> let understand the background
[16:15] <om26er> everybody i am pasting my fstab in the pastebin
[16:15] <te_> then add a line in the fstab file that first has device and then mount point and options and then  0  0
[16:15] <derek6711> om26er, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mounting-windows-partition-onto-ubuntu-linux/
[16:15] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you.
[16:16] <Kurisuchan> I have this problem that applications (skype  to name one) "steals" the sound, so you can't listen to music etc in the background, is there a simple solution for this problem?
[16:16] <sheikh> application wanting to know user's lang is root.
[16:16] <te_> om26er: /dev/hde3 /MS-Windows  auto  noauto,rw,users 0  0
[16:16] <jrib> sheikh: you haven't answered my qusetion
[16:16] <sheikh> sorry m8 whats ur question?
[16:16] <om26er> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208212/
[16:17] <te_> om26er: or:  /dev/hde3 /mount/point ntfs noauto,rw,users  0 0
[16:17] <om26er> ok
[16:18] <sheikh> the command i am running is "su sheikh -c env | grep LANG
[16:18] <Ergo^> !offline
[16:18] <sheikh> "
[16:18] <monty_hall> how do I add open type fonts?
[16:18] <shadows> monty_hall: i had to convert them to truetype
[16:18] <scunizi> !fonts | monty_hall
[16:19] <shadows> !mplaer
[16:19] <shadows> !mplayer
[16:19] <traveller> let me explain: I click on the network manager. I find the network and choose wpa-personal. I enter the the psswd "flya-2008" and never connects. When I unhide the password is a number like this asdferh4854333fdf
[16:20] <sheikh> @jrib: your command is returing null
[16:20] <masquerade> traveller: maybe reinstall wifi drivers..?
[16:20] <derek6711> traveller, is wireless enabled?
[16:20] <shadows> traveller: maybe reinstalling wifi drivers?
[16:20] <gianfrix> hi! do someone know how to set the default theme in GNOME in the LiveCD using Ubuntu Customization Kit?
[16:20] <te_> om26er: for further info see:  man fstab
[16:20] <traveller> on ubuntu?
[16:20] <derek6711> gianfrix, live cd discards changes at shutdown
[16:21] <jrib> sheikh: well there you go
[16:21] <traveller> yes it is enabled
[16:21] <derek6711> gotta ask the stupid stuff too
[16:21] <om26er> te_ thanx
[16:22] <gianfrix> derek6711: I am building a livecd but I want to customize the default theme... I have to bring it in exams and I want to set Dust as the default theme... xD
[16:22] <te_> traveller: iwconfig   #see if the essid is correct
[16:22] <homy> Hello! How can I speed up ubuntu (jaunty) boot time? I already did "profile" kernel option.
[16:22] <shesek> should I simply install mythtv, or is it better to install the mythbuntu-desktop packacge ?
[16:22] <derek6711> gianfrix, i have never messed with and iso, sorry
[16:22] <gianfrix> np
[16:22] <bullgard4> I have started the Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop Edition CD. It tells me that the radio networks are disabled. How to enable them?
[16:23] <alazyworkaholic> Hey everyone. I just had a severe problem & have lots to say, what's that pastebin (I think) that I'm supposed to use for that? (new irc user)
[16:23] <legend2440> !paste
[16:23] <n0gear> paste.ubuntu.com
[16:23] <sheikh> i've tried ur command which is "su -sheikh -c env | grep LANG" it returns null
[16:24] <derek6711> gianfrix, you can try this http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=623
[16:24] <m477> #ubuntu-pl
[16:24] <gianfrix> derek6711: I tried it but it did not start...
[16:24] <sheikh> @NE i tried the command "su -l sheikh -c env | grep LANG"
[16:24] <karri> good evening
[16:24] <derek6711> gianfrix, what os are you using?
[16:24] <sheikh> but this one return's root's lANG
[16:25] <sheikh> not the sheikh's LANG
[16:25] <pingpong3> hi all
[16:25] <abbazabba> silly question, i'm trying to install 8.04 via cdrom, but all the cd's i have, after the menu, it looks to load up, but then it goes straight to the terminal
[16:25] <gianfrix> derek6711: Ubuntu 9.04 Live (I don't use it everyday)
[16:25] <abbazabba> how would i install it via the terminal
[16:25] <sheikh> is anyone here to help
[16:25] <derek6711> abbazabba, redownload the iso or request a cd from canonical store
[16:25] <karri> what's with my jaunty? it seems to jam to "loading hardware drivers" for 5 seconds, a bit annoying
[16:25] <sheikh> ?
[16:26] <derek6711> gianfrix, kk
[16:26] <abbazabba> derek6711: i've installed it from these cd's before though sadly
[16:26] <abbazabba> derek6711: i guess they just fell apart?
[16:26] <mcfarlane> test
[16:26] <question> Hi, im trying to update to firefox 3.5, but every method I try leaves me with Firefox 3 running, any ideas?
[16:27] <derek6711> gianfrix, You will be surprised that creating your own LiveCD is nothing more than walking through a wizard with few simple screens. The only challenge is knowing to open up a terminal within the application in order to install the extra applications you need.
[16:27] <derek6711> abbazabba, reuesting a cd is nice too, i am currently getting one in the mail right now
[16:27] <max__> il
[16:28] <zagabar1> My webcam is detected as video0 but when I try to get playback from it, I get nothing. I tried with both vlc, motion and mplayer. I could do it with my other cam. What can be wrong?
[16:28] <gianfrix> derek6711: I went into my liveCD with chroot before building it but I don't know what to modify
[16:28] <derek6711> abbazabba, https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[16:29] <derek6711> gianfrix, like i said, i havent messed with iso's before, looks like a topic to look in to though
[16:29] <derek6711> gianfrix, ill do some more research
[16:29] <Guest22692> anyone help slow user with 9.04 crash
[16:29] <gianfrix> thanks
[16:29] <porter1> Does anyone know whether an Ubuntu system will stay updated even if only regular (non-admin) users  log in over a long peroid?
[16:29] <pingpong3> question: try ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
[16:29] <te_> porter1: No, not by default
[16:29] <homy> Hi, how can I speed up ubuntu boot?
[16:30] <te_> !updates | pingpong3
[16:30] <Titan8990_> homy, compile a custom kernel and drop initrd
[16:30] <question> pingpong3: It says its firefox 3.0
[16:30] <sebsebseb> !speed |  homy
[16:30] <porter1> te_, I was thinking of writing something to run at startup to keep it updated.
[16:30] <PiaNiSTa_95> ciao
[16:30] <bullgard4> homy: Use 9.04. Do not use many GUI programs.
[16:30] <porter1> A simple update and upgrade
[16:30] <Titan8990_> homy, disable nearly all services except for ones needed for the gui such as hal
[16:30] <Titan8990_> bullgard4, not using programs does not increase boot time
[16:31] <hostname> hi
[16:31] <Titan8990_> homy, and when you do a kernel w/o initrd, make sure all kernel debugging features are off
[16:31] <hostname> where can I download firefox 3.5 for linux/amd64?
[16:31] <derek6711> gianfrix, try this, i have to go, sorry http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-441088.html
[16:31] <te_> porter1:  yes that is fairly easy...
[16:31] <Titan8990_> hostname, mozzila.org?
[16:31] <abbazabba> would anyone know how i could get my monitor to work with 9?
[16:31] <pescador_coracao> slrfmadeira@hotmail.com
[16:31] <gianfrix> derek6711: ok, thanks! bb
[16:31] <Guest22692> no one else have crash problem with 9.04
[16:31] <porter1> te_, can I simply put apt-get update && apt-get upgrade in rc.local?
[16:31] <ctmjr> homy: disable all programs not needed at start-up is one trick
[16:31] <qe2eqe> help! I need to kill quite a few PIDs - thousand or so. All are xfce-screenshot
[16:32] <Myrtti> qe2eqe: killall xfce-screenshot?
[16:32] <JediMaster> can someone point me to the upgrade instructions from 8.04 LTS to 9.10 for server edition? the current upgrade page doesn't do the change that makes it not only look for LTS releases
[16:32] <te_> porter1: You could set a cron job for it, but I think the update-manager has an option for auto-updates
[16:32] <Titan8990_> homy, on my gentoo machine I have achieved a boot time of grub -> login in 8secs
[16:33] <rais> hello channel, i need help. how to solve "unable to enumerate usb port". it's usb mouse. it works before suddenly poweroff
[16:33] <POPEYE> The coputer simply hangs up after installing Ati diver from add/remove programs. What to do?
[16:33] <sheikh> this command works when u open the new terminal
[16:33] <Guest22692> thanks all
[16:33] <sheikh> but if u switch to "root" using sudo -s
[16:33] <sheikh> and run it then
[16:33] <moncky> POPEYE: just leave it for a bit, it may recover
[16:33] <sheikh> it wont work
[16:33] <sheikh> thats when i want it to work
[16:34] <Zapelius> no-one?
[16:34] <ctmjr> POPEYE: are the drivers still installed?
[16:34] <homy> Uhm... I don't want to compile my own kernel etc., because then I have to track updates manually and loose the comfort of ubuntu.
[16:34] <POPEYE> therre is a trash on the screen
[16:34] <qe2eqe> Myrtti,  you just rescued my system. It was nearly unresponsive... thanks!
[16:34] <porter1> te_, I do have it to just auto install withou any confirmation, but it appears as though admins are the only oneswho can upgrade
[16:34] <moncky> POPEYE: trash? as in a recycle bin type trash?
[16:34] <NET||abuse> hmm, just loaded up the chromium-browser ppa repo,,, nice, have chromium browser, but is it different to the google chrome browser?
[16:35] <te_> porter1: You can always add others to the admin group
[16:35] <porter1> NET||abuse, it's just chrome on windows in WINE
[16:35] <sillyCEO> Hey, I can't seem to boot into Bios!!! I'm pretty sure its because some "Boot Accelerator" is tunred on, and it doesn't have enough time to catch the F2. Any ideas?
[16:35] <edbian> NET||abuse: It's just a port.  Essentially the same software as chrome.
[16:35] <POPEYE> ctmjr: I've tried to uninstall it in console but it seems that something is still left
[16:35] <Orange_v_Blue> anyone know if there's a google IRC channel?
[16:35] <porter1> te_, heh I would but then there would be other security problems :)
[16:35] <edbian> sillyCEO: use a PS/2 keyboard instead of USB.  They are recognized quicker.
[16:35] <question> pingpong3: In my bin folder I have three  firefox scripts, firefox, firefox 3.0, and firefox 3.5
[16:35] <NET||abuse> edbian, porter1, would you run one over the other for any reason? is google's much more stable? any advantage features wise?
[16:36] <sillyCEO> edbian: good idea- thax.
[16:36] <qe2eqe> Myrtti,  I'm going to submit that as a bug. There's no need to spawn 500 processes in 6 seconds just because you accidentally left a key down
[16:36] <porter1> NET||abuse, thwe one you are using is google's.
[16:36] <edbian> NET||abuse: I use firefox :)
[16:36] <javb> scunizi?
[16:36] <porter1> NET||abuse, google hasn't gotten around to writing a native linux version yet
[16:36] <te_> porter1: sudo crontab -e
[16:36] <ctmjr> POPEYE: try this in a terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:37] <UnderSampled> I burned a DVD of 9.04, but when I boot into it, the only option that works is the memory checker.
[16:37] <scunizi> javb: :)
[16:37] <NET||abuse> porter1, oh, but the first page that came up when i ran chromium-browser is "this is not googles browser!"
[16:37] <porter1> NET||abuse, which is suprising considereing they use a ubuntu like dist internally
[16:37] <homy> when will the package "firefox-3.5" in jaunty be updated to 3.5 final? If I want 3.5 instead of 3.0, can I just install firefox-3.5 via apt to replace the old firefox?
[16:37] <metalfan_> how can i get a fresh /etc/apache2 dir ?
[16:37] <porter1> NET||abuse, hm. I'm not sure which you are running then. Does it haver the same interface as chrome?
[16:37] <Myrtti> !ff35 > homy
[16:37] <metalfan_> homy, yes youre a homy
[16:37] <javb> scunizi, weird, did all changes on xorg, did the command xrandr, but none of them made ANY EFFECT
[16:37] <javb> Added the modes...
[16:38] <te_> metalfan_: mkdir /etc/apache2
[16:38] <UnderSampled> All other options either showed the blinking '_' cursor, or around a page full of text that I can't copy without paper. Either of these had the capslock and scroll lock lights on my keyboard flash
[16:38] <vegombrei> hi how do i install a theme thats tar.bz2?
[16:38] <metalfan_> te_, with the apache2 config files
[16:38] <metalfan_> ofcourse
[16:38] <te_> metalfan_: Not sure I understand our question.
[16:38] <NET||abuse> porter1, yes, very much like it so far, not noticing much diff.... what they say exactly is "Chromium is an open source browser project. Google Chrome is a browser from Google, based on the Chromium project."
[16:38] <edbian> porter1: NET||abuse: I'm pretty sure it says that because some outside party ported chrome to linux which is chromium.  It's like ice-weasel.  Ice weasel isn't firefox but it's code is almost identical.
[16:38] <homy> Myrtti: thanks, it seems I just haveto be less impatient :)
[16:38] <metalfan_> te_, ive reinstalled it. but no fresh configs
[16:38] <homy> metalfan_: what do you mean?
[16:38] <scunizi> javb: did you restart "X" ?
[16:39] <te_> metalfan_: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[16:39] <javb> 3 times.. not just X, but the computer
[16:39] <metalfan_> te_, getting the default config files
[16:39] <NET||abuse> edbian, i think i heard a while ago that the google did setup a ppa for ubuntu to run chrome on
[16:39] <metalfan_> te_, modified mine and screwed
[16:39] <gianfrix> exit
[16:39] <vegombrei> jribas: you there?
[16:39] <te_> metalfan_: I guess you could have just deleted the directory before re-installing.
[16:39] <UnderSampled> I have installed before with 8.10 on a cd, and I have burned a dvd (same type) or windows 7 beta with the same drive, and both were successful
[16:39] <metalfan_> te_, ive moved it. but reinstalling doesnt create /etc/apache2
[16:40] <scunizi> javb: did you find a way to force xrandr to list the resolution?
[16:41] <edbian> NET||abuse: We really shoulda looked it up sooner :)  http://code.google.com/chromium/
[16:41] <javb> scunizi, it does show it, but with the opcion "-s" it doesnt work, but with the sintax explained in the link the bot gave, it does bring up any error, nor any effect.
[16:41] <metalfan_> te_, ah it was apache2.2-common
[16:41] <jribas> vegombrei: yes
[16:42] <alazyworkaholic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208226/
[16:42] <te_> metalfan_: you might try dpkg -P
[16:42] <short__error> does any one know about installing TSP codec??
[16:42] <UnderSampled> If it helps any, Both the md5 check out ok, and IMGBurn verified that it burned correctly
[16:43] <NET||abuse> edbian, despite it's slightly light features, it is snappy lil browser, even on linux
[16:43] <te_> metalfan_:  dpkg -P apache2.2-common
[16:44] <metalfan_> te_, says that some other packages depend on it
[16:44] <scunizi> javb: googling this issue is horrendous.. have you considered a cheap nvidia card?
[16:44] <edbian> NET||abuse: I tried it out once.  It is quick (especially the java-script).  Now if we could just get google to write a flash engine :)
[16:44] <metalfan_> te_, isnt apt intelligent enough to reinstall all that was installed when i did the first time "aptitude install apache2?
[16:45] <javb> It's a laptop...
[16:45] <NET||abuse> edbian, haha, that'll be news worthy, google faceoff against adobe!!! :P
[16:45] <javb> scunizi, its a laptop :(
[16:45] <te_> metalfan_: I guess you could use --force
[16:45] <javb> scunizi, i think i ll give it a try to the driver, AGAIN :(
[16:45] <metalfan_> te_, that will fuck up all
[16:45] <scunizi> javb: my del had the option of what kind of card.. I believe it was just a snap in vs. hardwired..
[16:45] <jshriver> Greetings
[16:45] <jshriver> anyone know what the following error is
[16:45] <jshriver> fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server
[16:46] <te_> metalfan_: or --ignore-depends
[16:46] <scunizi> javb: check the card type against the driver and the current Xorg system.. there are compatibiliity issues with older cards.. they don't work anymore.
[16:46] <javb> scunizi, what about a new driver, from amd?
[16:46] <metalfan_> te_, im not trying to be smater than apt. i want apt to solve the problem
[16:46] <carml> jshriver try ctrl+alt+delete if you've trouble with X
[16:46] <jshriver> it's only with a specific application
[16:46] <te_> !language | metalfan_
[16:46] <jshriver> works on some machines but not on others.
[16:46] <jshriver> so wondered if it was a video driver problem
[16:46] <javb> scunizi, my card is very new, i think, ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility HD 3670
[16:46] <metalfan_> te_, what did i say?
[16:47] <NET||abuse> edbian, one nice thing,, i have google chrom and chromium open at same time. no problem it seems
[16:47] <scunizi> javb: the older driver won't work with the new Xorg and the new driver doesn't work with some ati cards.. your card might work.. google HD 3670 ubuntu and see what you get
[16:47] <te_> metalfan_: dpkg -P apache2-common apache2
[16:48] <edbian> NET||abuse: How are you running chrome on linux?  I thought the only option was chromium??
[16:49] <NET||abuse> edbian, :) http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/eula_dev.html?dl=unstable_amd64_deb
[16:49] <dam0> hi, how can i find out how mutch ram my pc has?
[16:49] <dgilpin> trying to get an instant message program
[16:49] <dgilpin> pidgin won't connect for some reason
[16:49] <dgilpin> anyone?
[16:49] <te_> dgilpin: connect to what?
[16:49] <te_> dgilpin: IRC?
[16:50] <dgilpin> it just says connecting
[16:50] <scunizi> dgilpin: to yahoo?.. this is a known issue and is being worked on...it's because yahoo made some changes
[16:50] <dgilpin> never does connect
[16:50] <moncky> dam0: cat /proc/meminfo
[16:50] <dgilpin> i want to be able to im with yahoo messenger, aim, etc...
[16:50] <dam0> thanx
[16:50] <edbian> NET||abuse: Are you on the mailing list or something?  How did you get to that page??
[16:50] <moncky> dimedo: centerim have fixed the Yahoo issue
[16:50] <scunizi> dgilpin: everything works right now except yahoo
[16:51] <NET||abuse> edbian, :) it was linked when i rooted around the googlel code pages.
[16:51] <dam0> MemTotal:        2060748 kB
[16:51] <dam0>   <----does thatmean i have 2GB of ram
[16:51] <NET||abuse> edbian, linked from http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel#TOC-Linux
[16:51] <dgilpin> oh, yahoo doesn't work?
[16:51] <moncky> dgilpin: centerim have fixed the Yahoo issue
[16:51] <dgilpin> what is centerim?
[16:51] <dam0>  MemTotal:        2060748 kB <---does this mean i have GB of ram?
[16:51] <NET||abuse> edbian, nice huh? :)
[16:52] <scunizi> moncky: dgilpin however the fix hasn't filtered downstream to Pidgin yet
[16:52] <dam0> 2GB
[16:52] <dgilpin> oh
[16:52] <dgilpin> bummer
[16:52] <moncky> scunizi: centerim isnt upstream from pidgin its a seperate programm
[16:52] <dgilpin> what is weird is when i was running debian and pidgin it worked
[16:52] <scunizi> moncky: ah
[16:52] <dgilpin> i just switched to ubuntu and now doesn't
[16:52] <edbian> NET||abuse: I'm impressed :)
[16:53] <NET||abuse> edbian, i was asking questions about it earlier as i had heard on some sites that google had quietly pushed this out, so i was hunting ;)
[16:53] <te_> dgilpin: http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:wpEED8_oehcJ:blog.mypapit.net/2009/06/solving-pidgin-yahoo-messenger-problem.html+pigdgin+yahoo&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[16:53] <dgilpin> is there an im that i can use?
[16:53] <NET||abuse> edbian, i thought someone in here might have a clue about it, but i guess it's still new news
[16:54] <masquerade> dgilpin: i thought this issue have been fixed in the latest update..?
[16:54] <zagabar1> My webcam is detected as video0 but when I try to get playback from it, I get nothing. I tried with both vlc, motion and mplayer. I could do it with my other cam. What can be wrong?
[16:54] <dgilpin> hmmm
[16:54] <edbian> NET||abuse: new to me!
[16:54] <UnderSampled> Hello?
[16:55] <scunizi> zagabar1: check it with cheese
[16:55] <edbian> NET||abuse: Very quiet of them indeed.
[16:55] <moncky> dgilpin: have a look at centerim
[16:55] <UnderSampled> Can I ask a question?
[16:55] <masquerade> dgilpin: afaik it has just been released. did you try checking for upgrades yet?
[16:55] <NET||abuse> edbian, hehe, those snakey bastads.... awsome though,, it is damn snappy
[16:55] <masquerade> UnderSampled: sure, shoot
[16:55] <linduxed> ive got a usb-memory from a friend that has a windows-virus on it. ive tried scanning it with clamav and it gives me no results. is there some other way?
[16:55] <m477> i cant unrar file.rar
[16:55] <moncky> !ask
[16:55] <UnderSampled> masquerade: my question: could someone help me? :P
[16:55] <edbian> Unfortuately I don't have amd64 arch :(
[16:55] <masquerade> m477: what program do you use?
[16:56] <m477> masquerade: unrar command
[16:56] <masquerade> UnderSampled: oh, i must have missed your question
[16:56] <NET||abuse> edbian, we had some heavy js animations that once our record sets got into the thousands caused a little bit of slowness on FF on linux, windows rendered it plenty fast but js/flash basic mvotion rendering on linux is not so great
[16:56] <UnderSampled> masquerade: Read my above lines
[16:56] <dgilpin> checking now...
[16:56] <masquerade> m477: any output?
[16:56] <mdm> linduxed, is this virus in a file that is in an archive?
[16:56] <m477> masquerade: Extracting  Divine Heresy - Face Breaker [2009]/Divine+Heresy+01+Undivine+Prophecies.mp3 Failed
[16:57] <metalfan_> te_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7551204#post7551204
[16:57] <te_> metalfan_: Yes?
[16:57] <m477> masquerade: mainly name file + "filed"
[16:57] <edbian> NET||abuse: Yeah I know!  It's sooo annoying.  I wish that open-source firefox worked best on an open-source platform.  I guess that's the nature of the beast though :(
[16:57] <linduxed> mdm: dunna
[16:57] <metalfan_> te_, i wrote it down, somehow apt plays with me
[16:57] <panesar_sandeep> i have got an pdf file in french language. i wish to translate it to english sum how. but the problem is that the contents of that file are in image format. whenever i right click sumwhere, instead of copying the text, it copies the block of text as an image. pls help...
[16:57] <linduxed> mdm: dunno
[16:57] <linduxed> mdm: i just know its there somewhere
[16:57] <te_> metalfan_: How's that?
[16:57] <masquerade> m477: did you try ´ unzip'?
[16:57] <NET||abuse> edbian, i don't know if it's a firefox issue or if it's X related, or what.. but it is annoying.
[16:57] <m477> masquerade: no, i will try
[16:58] <masquerade> m477: brb
[16:58] <masquerade> m477: oke
[16:58] <edbian> NET||abuse: Yeah.
[16:58] <kk_jaunti> hello, can some one tell me if ekiga works fine on ubuntu 9.04?  I get the error which says you will have to manually configure the network.  I have the internet working but as soon as I double click ekiga, I get that error.
[16:58] <panesar_sandeep> i have got an pdf file in french language. i wish to translate it to english sum how. but the problem is that the contents of that file are in image format. whenever i right click sumwhere, instead of copying the text, it copies the block of text as an image. pls help...
[16:58] <vikhail> Hello.
[16:58] <mdm> linduxed, the only way clamav would not have found the virus is if it were in an archive it could not open.  Barring that, there probbly inst an infected file on the usb drive and your friend is mistaken about it
[16:58] <adhel> aNGHFTYFSXHFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
[16:58] <zagabar1> scunizi, I tried cheese, it couldn't open it for displaying
[16:59] <m477> masquerade: i supoust unzip wont work cuz i cant finish name of folder by tab
[16:59] <metalfan_> te_, read the post if youre interrested
[16:59] <m477> masquerade: long name file
[16:59] <UnderSampled> masquerade: sorry, I have to leave
[16:59] <m477> masquerade: also i have manager archive
[17:00] <m477> masquerade: it says that done and i got empty folder
[17:01] <student> how to see 3gp video in ubuntu jaunty?
[17:01] <vegombrei> i donno why i cant seem to understand something ... i go to theme download sites ... download a bunch of them . extract to the .themes folder .. i dont think i can get it to work ...
[17:02] <panesar_sandeep> i have got an pdf file in french language. i wish to translate it to english sum how. but the problem is that the contents of that file are in image format. whenever i right click sumwhere, instead of copying the text, it copies the block of text as an image. pls help...
[17:03] <mdm> panesar_sandeep, you can not, that is one of the main reasons people publish in PDF
[17:03] <Denial> люді, у меня не відіт ide венік, когда я его подключаю вместо двд-прівода. Не подскажіте как смонтіровать венік?
[17:04] <student> pls 3gp and jaunty
[17:04] <NET||abuse> hmmm, what i'd like in the linux chromium browser, access system colours scheme please... it looks awful with the human look or new wave theme in jaunty.
[17:04] <panesar_sandeep> mdm, is there sum way i can get it translated sum how, using google translate or sumthing else
[17:04] <metalfan_> student, what?
[17:04] <scunizi> !ru | Denial
[17:05] <metalfan_> i guess in a few years the people are lazy enough to even join irc, in these days they try to write sentences
[17:05] <metalfan_> panesar_sandeep, no. the author doesnt want you to
[17:06] <te_> panesar_sandeep: If you put it on a webserver or send it to a gmail account, maybe...
[17:06] <student> how to viw 3gp video in ubuntu
[17:06] <mdm> panesar_sandeep, unless you want to type the text.  You are under the impression that file contains text.  It contains rendered text.  *IF* they were dumb enopugh to write a pdf file that renders text you can try a copuy of Acrobat 6 to modify it.  Barring that there is no text to select, which again, is why they publish in PDF.
[17:06] <javb> Hi, scuzini, installed the ATI propietary. Let's see how much it will last.
[17:06] <te_> panesar_sandeep: You need to somehow convert the pdf image to text.
[17:07] <metalfan_> student, please use google try "3gp ubuntu"
[17:07] <javb> Guys, firefox closes unexpextably... It is ANOYINH  ! !!
[17:07] <mickster04> !ff35
[17:07] <mickster04> whois hi
[17:08] <hii> \list
[17:09] <hii> \list
[17:10] <mickster04> hii can i help you?
[17:10] <astra-x> How well do the ATi Radeon 4870 and 4890 stay stable with the ati blob drivers?
[17:11] <astra-x> in 9.04
[17:11] <enthudrives> i installed ubuntu. i have windows xp and ubuntu as two partitions. i want to increase the partition size of ubuntu. how can i do tat?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> !ati
[17:12] <vikhail> Open question. How do I convert .mp3 to .aac using SoundKonverter?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> enthudrives: boot to livecd, you can use gparted to do it. make sure your data backups are recent
[17:13] <enthudrives> ok thanks i ll try it. and what if i make ubuntu, the only OS in my system?
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> enthudrives: http://www.nishants.net/articles/ntfsresize.htm
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> enthudrives: then delete the ntfs partition, edit /boot/grub/menu.list
[17:14] <thehumanerror> Does anyone use full disk encryption with Ubuntu 9.04?
[17:14] <thehumanerror> I am wondering, my machine seems quite slow now, how do I tell if it's because of that or not?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> enthudrives: you can then create a new ext3 partition with the space and mount it to a folder and use it as data storage
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: if you run top, you can see whats chewing your cpu
[17:15] <vikhail> thehumanerror: It would slow down if you have to decrypt the process before running it.
[17:15] <thehumanerror> I know, I've ran top
[17:15] <thehumanerror> I'm assuming kcryptod is something to do with it
[17:15] <thehumanerror> it's just, it seems really sluggish doing anything
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: what cpu speed / ram do you have
[17:15] <thehumanerror> is there away in Pidgin to squash all these leaving / entering notifications
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: and what DE do you use?
[17:16] <thehumanerror> Sempron 3300+, 1GB RAM
[17:16] <hii> hi guys please help me. i want to install ubuntu along with windows xp
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: you can enable the plugin
[17:16] <thehumanerror> not the 64-bit-type Sempron, a rebadged Athlon XP 3200+
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> !dualboot | hii
[17:17] <hii> ubottu: thanks
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: athlonxp is a bit better than a semperon, its not just "rebadged"
[17:17] <thehumanerror> this Sempron is rebadged
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: wow, crazy
[17:17] <thehumanerror> when they sold off the last 32-bit Athlons, they made them Semprons, I think
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: what de do you use, gnome, kde, lxde, fluxbox?
[17:17] <mdm> thehumanerror, a disk is the slowest part of the computer.  Go look at waitio on top.  You took the slowest part and made it even slower making every IO have to go though software encryption.  Encryption is for security, not for speed.
[17:17] <thehumanerror> anway
[17:17] <thehumanerror> waitio
[17:17] <thehumanerror> righto
[17:17] <FloodBot2> thehumanerror: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:18] <rayno_b> I've setup DNS and all is working fine from all computers except the computer running dns.  This server cannot resolve anything?
[17:18] <thehumanerror> I know what encryption is for, thanks ;)
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> rayno_b: add to /etc/resolv.conf       nameserver 127.0.0.1
[17:19] <dam0> where will i get my next drugs action? rite here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-mLIdLZZeI
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: what de do you use...one last try
[17:19] <thehumanerror> DE?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> !de
[17:19] <thehumanerror> oh right, sorry
[17:19] <thehumanerror> Ubuntu
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: gnome, kde, lxde, fluxbox?
[17:19] <thehumanerror> GNOME
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: 4 times a charm eh
[17:19] <rayno_b> ActionParsnip - Thanks man - That did it (so easy!
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> networking is easy
[17:20] <thehumanerror> well it's hard to see what's going on with all these random notifications flying about
[17:20] <thehumanerror> there's more of them than actual chat
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: you can turn on the entry / leaving messags with the pidgin plugin, its part of a default install
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: i also type your name every time so it highlights
[17:20] <thehumanerror> am looking for it
[17:21] <thehumanerror> that's very nice
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> thehumanerror: main window -> tools -> plugins  and select join/part hiding
[17:22] <Ace2017_-> Hi al
[17:22] <Ace2017_-> all
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Ace2017_-
[17:22] <thehumanerror> got it
[17:22] <thehumanerror> nice one, thanks :)
[17:22] <Ace2017_-> i'm downloading ubuntu breezy badger because there is an old game i want to play, are the repos for it still online?
[17:22] <Ace2017_-> i think i need to install opengl
[17:23] <thehumanerror> right, yeah, so how much slower is it supposed to be with crypto? I'm just wondering if it's worth reinstalling without
[17:23] <jrib> Ace2017_-: what game?
[17:23] <edbian> Ace2017_-: The games that are available in the breezy badger repo are more than likely in the juanty (current) repo.
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: breezy is dead and gone
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> !breezy
[17:23] <hwilde> Ace2017_-, see old-releases.ubuntu.com
[17:23] <Ace2017_-> jrib: its called ballistic, i downloaded the demo
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> 14 years dead
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> !info ballistic
[17:23] <thehumanerror> what was this thing about waitio?
[17:23] <Ace2017_-> 14 years dead? it was out in 2005 wasn't it?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: read ubottu's output, she is the way
[17:24] <edbian> Ace2017_-: Just install your game on 9.04.  It will probably work
[17:24] <te_> Ace2017_-: Not so sure you need to go all the way back to 5.10 for a game
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> 14 months + 12 (misread the year
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> its too hot
[17:24] <Titan8990_> Ace2017_-, ubuntu release have short lifespans a part from LTS release
[17:24] <Titan8990_> !lts | Ace2017_-
[17:24] <thesandman>  i'm still having problems getting my dvd burner to burn...the same problem out of brasero and k3b...  can anyone tell me what's going on here in paste been?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/208249/
[17:24] <Ace2017_-> Well, here is ballistic: http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Ballistics-Screenshot-27447.html
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: is it a futuristic racing game?
[17:25] <Titan8990_> thesandman, looks like a bad disc or failing drive
[17:25] <Ace2017_-> yup
[17:25] <E5noHP> that's slick
[17:25] <mdm> thehumanerror, your CPU spends allot of time wiating, it waits for slow cache, it waits even  longer for slow DDR2 memory, and still longer flow excessivly slow 15K ROM fiber channel disks.  Wait IO (abreviated as wa in top) is the expression of all this waiting.
[17:25] <thehumanerror> wa, thanks
[17:25] <Ace2017_-> try atop
[17:26] <thehumanerror> 0.0%wa
[17:26] <thehumanerror> 0.3%wa
[17:26] <thehumanerror> 0.0%wa
[17:26] <mickster04> hii you need help?
[17:26] <thehumanerror> it's pretty much always 0%
[17:26] <alazyworkaholic> just checking, did anyone read my dead disk/filesystem problem? no ideas?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: looks like a paid for game, the .run file will run just fine
[17:27] <ubuff> hi guys
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: http://demofiles.linuxgamepublishing.com/ballistics/ballistics-demo.run
[17:27] <thesandman> TITAN8990: well I know that disc is'nt  bad I got a box of those...but as far as the drive i'm not sure but someone just told me that it may be the burn speed
[17:27] <ubuff> is firefox 3.5 going to be available for jaunty anytime soon ?
[17:27] <ubuff> thanks
[17:27] <Ace2017_-> ActionParsnip: thats what i have now
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> !ff3.5 > ubuff
[17:27] <mdm> thehumanerror, measuing your system while it is idle is like measuring gas milage by pushing the car down a hill.  You have to DO something with the computer, try a dd to /dev/null
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: great, then chmod +x the file and then run it
[17:27] <Ace2017_-> i found the windows version but i can't get windows 98 to work
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: tried wine?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: with the game, not 98
[17:28] <Ace2017_-> ActionParsnip: i have 64bit linux, so i need a 32bit distro
[17:28] <Ace2017_-> actually i'll try wine now
[17:28] <hason> hi
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Ace2017_-: wine runs 32bit windows apps
[17:28] <hason> how do u do ?
[17:29] <Ace2017_-> hason: hi
[17:29] <hason> plz could any one help me ?
[17:29] <Ace2017_-> hason: we will try
[17:29] <mickster04> i cant get bbc iplayer working but youtube does? any clues?
[17:29] <hason> ok
[17:30] <Ace2017_-> mickster04: what browser are you using? firefox and flash 10 64bit has worked fine for me
[17:30] <mdm> !ask | hason
[17:30] <sebsebseb> !anyone |  hason
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: install flash
[17:30] <hason> i wanna  driver for graphic
[17:30] <sebsebseb> !details | hason
[17:30] <hason> nvidia
[17:31] <mickster04> ActionParsnip, for youtube to work it has to be
[17:31] <Ace2017_-> !nvidia | hason
[17:31] <mickster04> Ace2017_-, ff 32
[17:31] <thehumanerror> what is id in top?
[17:31] <hason> nvidia
[17:31] <thehumanerror> that's really high, 94.4%
[17:31] <te_> mdm: sebsebseb Wouldn't it be easier to just tell 'em to "ask your question(s)"?
[17:31] <sebsebseb> hason: system >  administaration > hardware drivers   anything there?
[17:31] <Dulak> thehumanerror: idle
[17:32] <ubuff> thanks
[17:32] <hason> no
[17:32] <Mike_lifeguard> I currently have 4 primary partitions. To add more, I need an extended partition, which means I first have to remove a primary partition. Is there a way to do this without losing any data that's on these primary partitions I already have?
[17:32] <sebsebseb> te_: you meant to answer our questions?
[17:32] <thehumanerror> okay, cheers
[17:32] <mickster04> ActionParsnip, ut i[layer says "content not working" altho it does on my pcc (im using eeebuntu on this atm?
[17:32] <thehumanerror> so, presumably on a desktop machine that's fairly normal
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: maybe bbc player uses something else
[17:32] <te_> sebsebseb: Was a retorical question. Never mind :)
[17:33] <Dulak> thehumanerror: yeah, I sit at 90-95% idle most of the time
[17:33] <thehumanerror> Mike_lifeguard: I think you'll have to back the data in one of the partitions, into one of the other ones
[17:33] <Ace2017_-> Mike_lifeguard: backup one of the partitions and then delete it and make a new partition
[17:33] <thehumanerror> Mike_lifeguard: Or onto another disk
[17:33] <MaYobi> hello evryone
[17:33] <Mike_lifeguard> alright, will do that
[17:33] <mickster04> ActionParsnip, rubbish...
[17:33] <mickster04> ActionParsnip, i mean iplayer is, not ur answer
[17:33] <te_> !gparted | Mike_lifeguard
[17:34] <MaYobi> any body knoew, why mplayer show error "too many video packets in the buffer" ? I can fix this?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: well it makes sense, if you can use flash for youtube and is fuine but the bbc player doesnt work then its a different plugin isnt it]
[17:34] <hason> my laptob  sony  type S VGN-SZ53b/b
[17:34] <Mike_lifeguard> te_: uh, yeah, i know
[17:34] <thehumanerror> is X usually so high up in terms of processor use?
[17:34] <hason> it's from japan
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: maybe it needs java. Its not something i use
[17:34] <mickster04> ActionParsnip, yeah, it used to maon about not havin flash...suck, i thought eeebuntu came with it
[17:34] <andre_pl> is there an alternate for keyserver.ubuntu.com ? I can't seem to connect to it
[17:34] <baba_b00ie> how do i know if firefox is running under my user or as sudo ? i ran some commands at cli for a plugin and ever since firefox won't load bookmarks or my homepage
[17:34] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: But if you only need to delet the last or last partitions, it won't effect the first ones
[17:35] <baba_b00ie> i dropped to cli and ran firefox %u and it still doesn't load the current logged in user profile
[17:35] <Mike_lifeguard> te_: I know. I was asking about making partition table changes without changing (ie losing) the data
[17:35] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: If you have 4 partitions and you delete #4  it will not effec the others.
[17:35] <mickster04> ActionParsnip, well it lets me click "play" ut then when it tries to load it, it just FAISL
[17:35] <hason> where r u?
[17:35] <Mike_lifeguard> te_: I know.
[17:36] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: Otherwise  use gparted
[17:36] <abbazabba> hey everybody, i'm trying to install 8.04 on my system, which has had it before.. however when i try to run it off the cd, busy box comes up and i get a "initramfs" command line
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: i only get audio but get no change of video off the static imnage
[17:36] <abbazabba> when i take this cd out and put it in another machine it boots fine.
[17:36] <mickster04> ActionParsnip, lucky u :P
[17:36] <orhan> hi there
[17:36] <Thingymebob> ActionParsnip, mickster04: BBC iPlayer definately uses flash works fine for me
[17:36] <abbazabba> anyway to install via cd?
[17:36] <orhan> can someone help me to connect to amsn
[17:36] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: Did I missunderstand your question?
[17:37] <Mike_lifeguard> te_: YES :D
[17:37] <mdm> abbazabba, does that happen when you boot the OS from the disk for the first time, or does this happen when you try to boot the CD?
[17:37] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Worked fine out of the box with ubuntu-restricted-extras installed
[17:37] <hason> is there anyone can help me
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Thingymebob: i dont have any interest in it so i'm not fussed it doesnt work
[17:37] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: You can also bittorrent partition magic
[17:37] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah, in normal ubuntu, i don't have that, im using eeebuntu. although it does have flash installed
[17:37] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: What is your question?
[17:37] <mickster04> hason probly whats up?
[17:37] <abbazabba> mdm: from the cd.. i can't load it off the cd
[17:37] <Mike_lifeguard> te_: it already got more-or-less answered, but thank you for trying to help
[17:37] <orhan> please help a lady
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> hason: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180
[17:38] <hason> the nvidia driver
[17:38] <mickster04> Thingymebob, i can get it working in normal ubi
[17:38] <mdm> abbazabba, did you check your BIOS and make sure the CD is in the boot order? also does it see and register the CD drive?
[17:38] <Nerdz> Hello
[17:38] <sebsebseb> !details |  orhan
[17:38] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: Ok, sorry if I only caused confusion...
[17:38] <AndyB> Does anyone know if there has been an update on 9.04 support for the 256MB ATI Mobility RADEON HD 3650?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> hason: then reboot, job done
[17:38] <abbazabba> mdm: yep, top of the boot order, and it knows that it's a compaq dvd drive
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> AndyB: head over to www.ati.com  there will be a driver tere
[17:38] <hason> ok
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> !ati > AndyB
[17:39] <Nerdz> I know this isnt the Kubuntu Channe., but ever since I  installed, it keeps  saying Ubuntu has started in Low graphics mode. How can I stop this from happening?
[17:39] <Nerdz> *Channel
[17:39] <hason> and i have a problem with desktob efficts
[17:39] <mdm> abbazabba, ether the MB has a chipset that ubu does not recognise or more likly it has broken BIOS that puts out bad int13 calls.  It is a hardware issue you need to debug.
[17:39] <AndyB> ActionParsnip, Thanks
[17:39] <Thingymebob> mickster04: wonder whats playing eee up, I put full ubu on my old mans eee so can't help with specifics, but I though the only diff was that eeebuntu had a custom kernel and a couple of extra packages
[17:39] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah so did i :/
[17:40] <orhan> i have ubuntu muslim edition and i cant connect to amsn at all it juqt says connection and i wait a lot of time and nothing
[17:40] <abbazabba> mdm: ever since i threw in a second hard drive, the bios screen has been up for a couple more seconds.. do you know of anyway to go about fixing it?
[17:40] <hason> how could i reboot the job done
[17:41] <a_c_m> getting a really annoying issue, mouse dragging seems to only work some of the time. ie i try to move a window, and it will loose the gab and then insta click on what ever is now under the cursor - anyone know what might be causing this?
[17:41] <baba_b00ie> abbazabba, you prolly have the second hard drive set to auto detect drive(s) manually enter the CHS and you should see the delay disappear
[17:41] <hason> plz
[17:41] <hason> where r u
[17:41] <mdm> abbazabba, when you put in the second harddrive did you cable and connect themn properly? Did you set them to master and slave and not use cable select?  if you used cable select do you have the apporprate cable? Puttin in drives that are cabled incorrectly can most surly case int13 problems
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> hason: sudo shutdown -r now
[17:42] <sebsebseb> orhan: you could try another program
[17:42] <carml> orhan: try pidgin,maybe you'll be able to use msn
[17:42] <Mike_lifeguard> Any suggestion for options when mounting your ntfs Windows partition?
[17:42] <abbazabba> baba_b00ie: thank you i'll have to try that out
[17:42] <sebsebseb> orhan: as well as properly removing amsn and  the program user data, and  re installing
[17:42] <orhan> i can use pidgin but i need amsn for vide and audio conversations
[17:42] <hason> this is for reboot the job
[17:42] <baba_b00ie> abbazabba, either that or you're using a cable select cable on a jumpered hard drive.. or the other way around..
[17:42] <sebsebseb> hason: I think kmess might be able to do that as well
[17:42] <baba_b00ie> abbazabba, assuming you're using IDE of course
[17:42] <sebsebseb> !info kmess
[17:43] <carml> Mike_lifeguard:the one to remember the preferences you set?
[17:43] <abbazabba> mdm: i put it on the same ide as the first hard drive.. it's been in for a month now and this is the first time i'm having a problem, aside from the slower boot up
[17:43] <hason> ok i'll see
[17:43] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Have you tried the lowe bandwidth version, link is at the bottom of each page, I think it uses older flash and is the one that wii uses
[17:43] <MaYobi> any body know, how fix the problem with mplayer when he get error "too many video packets in the buffer"???
[17:43] <Mike_lifeguard> carml: I'm not sure what you mean? I'm just wondering if using defaults is actually sensible for an NTFS partition.
[17:43] <stealth-> whats a command that lets me see the history of logged in users?
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> hason: you install the driver then reboot. what more do you want ?
[17:44] <mdm> abbazabba, did you check it for size, does bios know what it is, did you set it manually like baba_b00ie said (also I did skip asking you if this was all IDE)
[17:44] <hason> the effict desktob dose not enable
[17:44] <sebsebseb> orhan: open a terminal
[17:44] <SandGorgon> !ff35
[17:44] <orhan> and than
[17:44] <carml> Mike_lifeguard: I mean you have the option to set to default the preferences you set,so you don't need to set them again
[17:44] <whatis_tux> does anyone know  just a menu launcher (for apps) ?
[17:45] <Mike_lifeguard> Does it make sense to put backups on their own separate partition? Does that actually reduce the likelihood of them being damaged?
[17:45] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok  first of all you got nothing to lose from amsn I assume?
[17:45] <Mike_lifeguard> carml: Yes, I'm talking about /etc/fstab
[17:45] <abbazabba> mdm: size is what it should be, bios does, idk what you mean by set it manually?
[17:45] <tomlikestorock> on my server, console-kit-daemon is taking up 100% cpu... I've done some googling and found out what it was for, but how to I mitigate it? Can I just remove it?
[17:45] <orhan> i just need video and audio
[17:45] <carml> Mike_lifeguard:yes put backups on separate partition
[17:45] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok
[17:45] <orhan> if there is any other programme
[17:45] <sebsebseb> orhan: sudo apt-get purge amsn
[17:45] <sebsebseb> orhan: that will remove amsn and it's config files
[17:46] <TheFuzzball> How do I install WPA2 support?
[17:46] <Mike_lifeguard> carml: k, thanks. Any idea about NTFS defaults in /etc/fstab?
[17:46] <sebsebseb> orhan: then you can also view the hidden folders in home to make sure  .amsn is also gone which is your program user  data
[17:46] <sebsebseb> orhan: in fact you could just  delete/move that without uninstalling the program first
[17:46] <Titan8990_> TheFunkbomb, wpa_supplicant supports wpa2 and is installed by default
[17:46] <sebsebseb> orhan: then when you re open it's like you just installed amsn for the first time
[17:46] <Titan8990_> TheFunkbomb, but not compatible with all cards
[17:47] <abbazabba> think i should unplug the hard drive and give it a whirl?
[17:47] <mdm> abbazabba, int13 is a low level identifucation for drives.  It does things like start them, read their geometry, etc.  It is how linux in genneral enumerates drives on a bus.  You miscable a drive and it can still be acccessed but not addresses (a very common thing with misusing cable select cables).  To make things worse Windows will seem to see the drive fine (because it ignores int13 and jumps direct to 32 bit access).  Really I would go look at the drives a
[17:47] <mdm> nd see how you cabled  and jumpered them.
[17:48] <abbazabba> mdm: alrighty, let me take a gander
[17:49] <sebsebseb> orhan: did you understand me?
[17:49] <orhan> i tried now to reinstall it and to install it agin but no work
[17:49] <sebsebseb> orhan: is it still using your old settings from before?
[17:49] <TheFuzzball> Titan8990_, it was working by default in 8.10 but now it doesn't work
[17:50] <orhan> how to check that
[17:50] <sebsebseb> orhan:  when you re installed, you didn't have to set up your MSN account again?
[17:50] <mickster04> Thingymebob, nearly...it just keeps loadin :/
[17:51] <orhan> no it was there
[17:51] <orhan> momorised
[17:51] <sebsebseb> orhan: what was there?
[17:51] <sebsebseb> orhan: the account was set up yes?
[17:51] <orhan> the id and pass
[17:51] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok
[17:51] <sebsebseb> orhan: close AMSN
[17:52] <orhan> i reinstalled it
[17:52] <sebsebseb> orhan: yes, but it's not as simple as just that
[17:52] <orhan> acctually deleted
[17:52] <chazco> Hi... does anyone know of an open source alternative to the touchkit drivers?
[17:52] <sebsebseb> orhan: ,because  sometimes you have to remove the actsaul program user data your self, or move it some where if you don't want to just delete
[17:52] <orhan> how can i do that
[17:53] <sebsebseb> orhan: in fact this is a good thing about Linux,  it keeps the programs and  the program  user data seperate, which means if you  have a problem,  just  move or delete the user data normalley,  rather than  re intall the program
[17:53] <sebsebseb> orhan: open the home folder
[17:53] <yellowtape> *plop*
[17:54] <sebsebseb> orhan: then  view > show hidden files and folders,  or do  ctrl and h
[17:54] <yellowtape> Anyone ever get a burning animation in their Ubuntu? It's pretty weird. I had it a few weeks ago on the bottom of my screen and could only get rid of it via a reboot. Now it's back in the top right hand corner.
[17:54] <sebsebseb> orhan: program user  data  goes in   hidden .folders in home
[17:55] <root> dsa
[17:55] <orhan> what now
[17:55] <orhan> i c the hiden files
[17:55] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok good, is there a  .amsn ?
[17:55] <samitheberber> how I can set x-terminal-emulator to be different for one user only?
[17:55] <orhan> yes
[17:55] <Guest40008> change my nickname  8-}
[17:56] <sebsebseb> orhan: that's your current AMSN settings,  so just delete it, or move it somewhere else if you want to keep it
[17:56] <sebsebseb> orhan: is AMSN closed now?
[17:56] <samitheberber> Guest40008: do not irc with root user!
[17:56] <orhan> deleted
[17:56] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok now when you re open AMSN, you will need to set up your account again
[17:56] <sebsebseb> orhan: and hopefuly this time it will connect :)
[17:57] <joeym> G'day.. I'm about to burn the cd image I just downloaded from the ubuntu page.  I only have a dvd writer and dvd media at the moment.  Can I burn a cd image to a dvd with growisofs from dvd+rw-tools?  In other words, would doing "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd0=/home/joey/dl/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso" do the trick or give me a coaster?
[17:57] <orhan> ill give a try
[17:57] <te_> joeym: No
[17:58] <p_s> Hello, I can not find any amarok packages in synaptic package manager. Can you please help me, which repositories should I add?
[17:58] <te_> joeym: DVD images are for DVD media and CD images are for DC media.
[17:58] <sebsebseb> p_s: synaptic heh  easier to use the terminal when you know what you want to install
[17:58] <baba_b00ie> anyone know where mozilla stores its bookmark file exactly with firefox 3.0 and running under ubuntu 904
[17:58] <sebsebseb> p_s: sudo apt-get install amarok
[17:58] <fanta_> poznan.irc.pl
[17:58] <Mike_lifeguard> Does anyone use nssbackup? Good? Bad? Ugly?
[17:58] <orhan> no luck
[17:59] <orhan> still same it says connection
[17:59] <sebsebseb> baba_b00ie: it  uses  syllite databases now
[17:59] <fanta_> quit
[17:59] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok  let's try something else
[17:59] <p_s> is there a way in apt-get how to install amarok in version 1.4? not the new one?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> orhan: can't remember if kmess does web cam,  and if not  I know of a program that will
[17:59] <orhan> is there oother oprogram for video and audio conversation
[17:59] <edbian> baba_b00ie: do you know about the hidden folders in your /home ??
[18:00] <baba_b00ie> sebsebseb, yeah i'm at the cli now i don't do file management using gui to much
[18:00] <sebsebseb> orhan: in the terminal :)    sudo apt-get install kmess
[18:00] <joeym> Thanks te_ According to someone on the ubuntu forums is can work (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=424634), but they are using higher level burning apps like k3b.  Maybe the program does some sort of conversion.
[18:00] <baba_b00ie> edbian, i'm at cli, under /home/.mozilla
[18:01] <sebsebseb> orhan: that's a KDE program, so if you have never installed a KDE program before, it's going to want to put on quite a few things
[18:02] <te_> p_s: You probably just need to get the .deb in the version of your choice and install manually.
[18:02] <orhan> ok kmess is now installed
[18:02] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok try that one
[18:02] <Thingymebob> mickster04: What happens if you open firefox from a terminal with firefox -jsconsole, I get a ton of warnings about unknown properties and parsing values for properties but no errors.
[18:02]  * AndyB is trying to get ubuntu 9.04 back on a usb that will support my ATI card for compiz
[18:03] <baba_b00ie> sebsebseb, do you know where the files are stored under the /.mozilla folder ?
[18:03] <sebsebseb> baba_b00ie: not exactly, but in Firefox
[18:03] <sebsebseb> baba_b00ie: bookmarks > organize bookmarks
[18:03] <sebsebseb> baba_b00ie: and you can do things
[18:04] <orhan> where can i find here my cam
[18:05] <sebsebseb> orhan:  just look around the program, anything for web cam?
[18:05] <ronaldprettyman> hey everyone, quick question, on 9.04 what is the process name for the splash screen
[18:06] <orhan> no webcam settings
[18:06] <ronaldprettyman> for the pupose of killing during boot with a script that needed to access the console
[18:06] <mickster04> Thingymebob, i get the same
[18:06] <baba_b00ie> sebsebseb, i found the directory and file names. it's xxxx.json
[18:06] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:06] <sebsebseb> baba_b00ie: yeah that's it
[18:06] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Just a thought
[18:06] <baba_b00ie> i miss the old bookmark.html files
[18:06]  * Thingymebob thinks some more
[18:07] <sebsebseb> orhan: AMSN normalley has no problem going on MSN
[18:07] <ronaldprettyman> usplash is the package name, thanks anyway, yall have a goodone
[18:07] <te_> ronaldprettyman: I think the spash screen is called up by grub and so you might find a clue in grub.conf
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> yeah grub just has a line to file the argument to the kernel
[18:08] <orhan> this kmess works but i cant find the webcam options
[18:08] <Dulak> Just take splash and quiet off your boot line in menu.lst
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> its compiled into the intrd image i believe
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> but they changed the name of it a few time
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> s
[18:08] <mickster04> Thingymebob, idea?
[18:08] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok hold on
[18:08] <orhan> ok
[18:08] <lzm> can i get kde3.5 in jaunty? my google-fu is failing me
[18:08] <ronaldprettyman> Dulak thanks, but thats a totally different thing, this is for a script, thanks yall, have a good one
[18:09] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Not yet, I'm slowly removing stuff to see when it breaks.
[18:09] <JuJuBee> Anyone have a suggestion as to how to add an old Parallel Okidata printer (laser) to Jaunty?
[18:09] <p_s> sebsebseb how can I install amarok 1.4 using the command apt-get?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> lzm: yes you can
[18:09]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[18:09] <te_> ronaldprettyman: make that menu.lst
[18:09] <lzm> sebsebseb: is there a howto about this?
[18:09] <sebsebseb> lzm: there's a remix CD,  but you can also add a repo
[18:09] <lzm> hmm
[18:10] <lzm> what repo?
[18:10] <sebsebseb> lzm: yeah if  you  get on the annoucnement from before on  the kubuntu site it will explain
[18:10] <sebsebseb> !kde3
[18:10] <mdm> !cups | JuJuBee
[18:10] <te_> JuJuBee: Shouldn't be any differebt than other printers.
[18:10] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Do other streaming sites work (youtube etc)?
[18:10] <te_> !printer | JuJuBee
[18:10] <JuJuBee> mdm I know, but I don't see an option for Parallel
[18:10] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah....
[18:11] <te_> JuJuBee: lpt
[18:11] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok uhmmm there's a program that  I think can do it, but  I need to find out the name again hold on,  also I know of one that should do it for sure
[18:11] <Thingymebob> mickster04: :-/..... still removing stuff....
[18:11] <elena09> my hard disk has 50 celsius degrees with ubuntu jaubty, and i'm just reading an article, why?
[18:11] <sebsebseb> orhan: ,but that one  is  closed source,  made by one guy, and can be a little buggy at times
[18:11] <JuJuBee> te_:  not one of hte device choices
[18:11] <mdm> JuJuBee, does it list LPT#?
[18:11] <JuJuBee> No
[18:12] <orhan> ok
[18:12] <mdm> JuJuBee, does the computer HAVE a paralel port, it is enabled in BIOS?
[18:12] <JuJuBee> Yes and Yes.  It was working prior to jaunty
[18:12] <te_> JuJuBee: What model is it?
[18:12] <JuJuBee> OL 810e (very old)
[18:13] <mdm> JuJuBee, is parport0 loaded as a module?
[18:13] <JuJuBee> duno... how to check?
[18:13] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok I haven't used it yet,  but  it's getting  popularish on Ubuntu,   it's going to replace Pidgin in Ubuntu 9.10  I think as well
[18:13] <mdm> JuJuBee, lsmod | grep parport
[18:13] <JuJuBee> 8.527442] parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE]
[18:13] <orhan> good
[18:13] <JuJuBee> from dmesg
[18:14] <orhan> ill use it also if it has cam and sound
[18:14] <mdm> JuJuBee, now check for lp
[18:14] <JuJuBee> mdm yes parport_pc and parport
[18:14] <JuJuBee> yes
[18:14] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok  nevermind,   the program I was thinking of isn't  quite it, but   emesene is,   I haven't tried yet, but I think it may be able to do what you want
[18:15] <orhan> ok
[18:15] <JuJuBee> [   10.471144] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven). <- from dmesg
[18:15] <sebsebseb> orhan: sudo apt-get install emesene
[18:16] <mdm> JuJuBee, then go looat at /var/log/cups/error_log and see why it does not like the port
[18:16] <gladiator> hi .. i just downloaded 9.04 iso .. how do i burn the image on to a cd ? i am currently using 8.10
[18:17] <gladiator> would the Image Burner write the iso file or will it properly extract and write the image?
[18:17] <orhan> i connected there
[18:17] <orhan> but i dont see my contacts
[18:17] <sebsebseb> orhan: oh
[18:17] <fdelanoy> gladiator: most probably
[18:18] <gladiator> fdelanoy: ive only got one writable cd .. no second chances :P
[18:18] <mdm> JuJuBee, when you looked at dmesg did parport0 show a printer attached?
[18:18] <orhan> no cam settings here neither
[18:18] <fdelanoy> gladiator: no rw anywhere?
[18:19] <gladiator> rw?
[18:19] <fdelanoy> gladiator: read-write
[18:19] <fdelanoy> rewritable
[18:19] <gladiator> no. ive just got on writable cd
[18:19] <sebsebseb> orhan: thought I had lost you
[18:19] <JuJuBee> mdm http://pastebin.com/m48c3f5f0
[18:19] <gladiator> one*
[18:19] <orhan> im here
[18:20] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok  web cam in development for that one,  I just Googled
[18:20] <orhan> hehe
[18:21] <orhan> do u think if i restart the pc that amsn could work
[18:21] <gladiator> any idea if sudden halting and flickering of the screen could be caused by overheating?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> orhan: probably wont be as simple as that
[18:21] <mdm> JuJuBee, go into your BIOS and turn on EPP
[18:21] <sebsebseb> orhan: ,but  I know of a program that will do web cam for sure :)
[18:21] <orhan> ok ill try
[18:21] <orhan> i come soon
[18:21] <JuJuBee> mdm ok.
[18:21] <JuJuBee> Don't recall turning it off since I upgraded...
[18:22] <JuJuBee> I'll be back ...
[18:23] <Halitech> Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24 on i686, any reason why it would only show 1gig of ram with 3 installed? computer does show 3 gig on boot
[18:23] <ersin> How can i resolve Grub Error COde 17 ?
[18:23] <sahak> hello
[18:24] <sahak> In nautilus I can access a remote server either via sftp or ssh. Which one of those protocols is faster?
[18:24] <Thingymebob> mickster04: does eeebuntu have it own restricted extras package?
[18:24] <mdm> ersin, you have an incorrect device selected, most likly your boot partition (as in the root entry) in your menu.lst file
[18:25] <mickster04> Thingymebob, how do i find out, i dunno off by heart
[18:25] <elux> is the package manage on ubuntu and debian the exact same? i understand ubuntu uses debian' aptitude manager
[18:25] <ersin> mdm: i get error code 18 when i solve it i get error code 17, i do a clean reinstallation of sabily
[18:25] <Halitech> elux, yes, both use apt, aptitude, synaptic and dpkg
[18:26] <Milos_SD> Hi all... I was doing something with fonts rendering options (changeing .fonts.conf file), but didn't do a backup. Can someone help me restore all to default?
[18:26] <elux> Halitech: does ubuntu also do the stupid shit like stable/testing/unstable/experimental and back ports?
[18:26] <Thingymebob> mickster04: synaptic, type in restricted-extras in quicksearch,
[18:26] <mdm> ersin, it means "I did not find a kernel because I could not find the drive you said it was on", i.e. invalid device
[18:26] <Mike_lifeguard> If I'm going to make a partition for backups, what filesystem would be most reliable for that sort of thing?
[18:26] <jrib> Mike_lifeguard: ext3?
[18:27] <Halitech> elux, I wouldn't call it stupid but thats me :)  no, Ubuntu just uses strange animal names for thier versions ;)
[18:27] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, thx
[18:27] <ersin> mdm: yesterday it worked fine till i do a stupid kernel update, do i need to correct the device from bios or do i need to change menu.lst with live cd ?
[18:27] <elux> Halitech: i see.. i think its very stupid. the stable versions are also so much older.. its not practical
[18:27] <mickster04> Thingymebob, it does indeed
[18:27] <mdm> ersin, pastebin a fdisk -l, df -k and your /boot/grub/menu.lst please
[18:27] <Thingymebob> mickster04: is it installed?
[18:28] <tumii> asd
[18:28] <sebsebseb> orhan: hi
[18:28] <Halitech> elux, maybe not for you but with their way of thinking, stable is just that, stable and if you were a sys admin running a server farm would you want stability or the latest untested packages?
[18:28] <orhan> nope
[18:28] <giaco> how can I upgrade a single package from jaunty to karmik? Obviously with all the dependencies
[18:28] <mickster04> Thingymebob, no, actually it has restricted modules not eeebuntu specific restricted extra's an the extra's aren't installed
[18:28] <orhan> it doesnt work
[18:29] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Are you saying ubuntu-restricted-extras aren't installed?
[18:29] <mickster04> Thingymebob, correct
[18:29] <hai_> hello
[18:29] <Thingymebob> mickster04: install them
[18:29] <elux> Halitech: im a developer, and i cant be bothered using 1 year old versions of software..
[18:29] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok thinking what to suggest and so on
[18:29] <mickster04> :D
[18:29] <hai_> u think i can now convert to windows
[18:30] <orhan> ok
[18:30] <ersin> mdm: im doing a reinstallation now, i will paste it when it is finished
[18:30] <mickster04> Thingymebob, i have to reboot due to updates too so will brb!
[18:30] <elux> Halitech: i dont mind apt-get install package/testing .. thats fine, but then if i run apt-get upgrade, it will try to upgrade everything to use testing.. ?
[18:30] <Thingymebob> mickster04: ok
[18:30] <omkar> hello
[18:31] <Mike_lifeguard> Does Gparted's "format to" option erase the data?
[18:31] <orhan> is it hurd to set up ubuntu boot vista
[18:31] <Halitech> elux, then you are thinking as a developer who needs cutting edge, not someone who needs stability. what about the people running Ubuntu 8.04? are they stupid for running an old version if it suits their needs?
[18:31] <orhan> and from there to use msn
[18:31] <sebsebseb> orhan: what was that?
[18:32] <orhan> i saw i guy he got in vista throught ubuntu
[18:32] <Halitech> elux, there is a way of not upgrading everything if you have a testing repo listed but I'm not sure how as I use just testing myself
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: yes with enough RAM, you can virtual machine Windows
[18:32] <orhan> actually using ubuntu and vista
[18:32] <elux> Halitech: no they're not stupid if it works. but when designer a new product, i consider the new features of the services available to me and leverage them to make a better product and then monitor stability closely and fix issues as they come.. but in my experiences nothing has been devastating if you have back ups
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: inside Ubuntu
[18:32] <orhan> this pc is good
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: how much RAM?
[18:32] <orhan> and fast
[18:32] <elux> Halitech: ohh you make testing your default branch for all packages?
[18:32] <orhan> 3gb ram
[18:32] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok cool
[18:33] <JuJuBee> mdm it seems to have found it but test page printing gibberish
[18:33] <theunixgeek> Where can I get free Chinese unicode fonts?
[18:33] <Halitech> elux, it comes down to what you need and want in your daily use
[18:33] <Halitech> elux, yes I do
[18:33] <elux> Halitech: but testing doesnt have security updates.. no?
[18:33] <mdm> JuJuBee, that is a matter of selecting a proper PPD, make sure you select one that matches the capability of the printer
[18:33] <sebsebseb> orhan: ok many options then
[18:33] <orhan> guide me pls
[18:33] <sebsebseb> orhan: I don't want to flood the channel with loads of stuff though,  did you get my pm?
[18:34] <SurfNewsNetwork> holy jesus A_Yoshi is here
[18:34] <orhan> i need msn and i adore ubuntu
[18:34] <mdm> JuJuBee, also did you enable DMA for it?
[18:34] <Halitech> elux, yes it does
[18:34] <elux> Halitech: btw. what about backports .. do those original from testing?
[18:34] <elux> original == originate
[18:34] <Halitech> elux, I'm not sure on backports, I've never used them and I don't feel I need the latest and greatest when what I get installed is working the way I feel it should
[18:35] <Halitech> elux, if I wanted to be on the cutting edge I'd go SID or Sidux :D
[18:36] <tumii> Is ext4 faster than ext2 with / as mount?
[18:36] <elux> yea i dont need cutting edge
[18:36] <elux> i need a mix.. hand picked packages
[18:37] <JuJuBee> mdm thanks, was the wron ppd.  I chose 810 ps/foomatic or something like that.  Switched to 800 laserjet.
[18:37] <Mike_lifeguard> tumii: you should check actual benchmarks
[18:37] <JuJuBee> Working :)
[18:37] <tumii> Mike_lifeguard: where
[18:37] <Halitech> elux, then Debian would be the better way to go as from what I know (and I stand to be corrected) there is no easy way to get packages from a newer version of ubuntu without PPA or backports which aren;t from Canocal
[18:37] <mdm> JuJuBee, im glad it works, also if you did not already do so, enable DMA for the EPP on that port
[18:38] <elux> i see. good to know
[18:38] <elux> i was interested in the differences. thanks for the talk
[18:38] <Mike_lifeguard> tumii: http://lmgtfy.org?q=ext4+benchmarks
[18:38] <JuJuBee> K, I will go back and check.  Weird, I never changed the settings in bios.
[18:38] <tumii> Mike_lifeguard, thanks
[18:39] <mdm> JuJuBee, DMA is not necessary.  Its just nice to have so you dont hold up your kernel while sending bits to the printer
[18:39] <mdm> err im sorry its pralel, sending bytes
[18:41] <fuffalo> has anyone here used the opensource package emailrelay?  I'm having problems with it timing out when a filter takes more than ~33 seconds
[18:41] <silidan> is there a way to automatically rebuild the tree /var/cache ?
[18:41] <mickster04> Thingymebob, no luck :( neither plays, still same as before
[18:41] <lianimator> in Kino, when I imported a wide screen video, it became squeezed into a 4:3 ratio, how do I change back?
[18:42] <mdm> silidan, ????
[18:43] <silidan> yea i was stupid enough to delete all that has been in /var/cache now my system is screwed
[18:43] <chetnick> When i add vga option to grub menu.lst, i get a blank screen. I tried vga=791, vga=792, and vga=793. I am guessing that those codes are nots supported by my monitor. What code should i use for 24" wide screen. That is my guess, maybe that is not problem at all. vga=791 works just fine on my laptop. Thanks
[18:43] <shuan> Hi everyone
[18:43] <mdm> silidan, reboot the system qand crash recover everything that you just wiped out its runing cache.  Most thing can recover from that
[18:44] <shuan> I would like to know if i can possibly enable ntfs file system as im running a dual boot with vista
[18:44] <dgilpin> hey, can't remember who helped me with the pidgin issue
[18:44] <dgilpin> thanks
[18:44] <silidan> how?
[18:44] <dgilpin> it worked
[18:44] <Thingymebob> mickster04: I'll be honest, i'm lost here and don't want to sit here blindly telling you to add & remove stuff, The only things that managed to break it for me were restricted extras and open-jre. I would suggest, if there isn't anyone else here who can help a post on the forums.
[18:45] <Thingymebob> Can Anyone here shine some light on mickster04's issue with BBC iplayer on eeebuntu
[18:45] <silidan> mdm: you mean by running dpkg-reconfigure?
[18:45] <shuan> I would like to know if i can possibly enable ntfs file system as im running a dual boot with vista
[18:45] <elena09> Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop
[18:46] <mdm> silidan, /var/cache is a place for programs to store things like state data and running data.  Apt put things like its repo cache output there.  You can rerun any program and it will recreate them.  Sometimes you need to trigger it, with an update, sometimes it will do it on its own.  But whatever you wiped out will make the programs unstable, reboot the system
[18:46] <mickster04> Thingymebob, thanks alot anyway!
[18:46] <mickster04> :d
[18:46] <shuan> anyone know how i can enable ntfs
[18:47] <silidan> mdm: i already rebooted and apt update only worked after i created the path it said it could not read (cause it wasnt there)
[18:47] <elena09> Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop
[18:47] <mmlj4> how do I change the locale settings, please?
[18:47] <silidan> mdm: nothing recreates itself, unless the path already exists
[18:47] <silidan> mdm: at least this is what i observed
[18:48] <TheMuffinMan> hey
[18:48] <TheMuffinMan> i need help
[18:48] <tw3akUrb0x> hello all
[18:48] <mdm> silidan, rerun apt-get update
[18:48] <silidan> done
[18:48] <mudkipz_lulz_900> lol
[18:48] <TheMuffinMan> i need help
[18:49] <mudkipz_lulz_900> u do
[18:49] <mudkipz_lulz_900> tylonol
[18:49] <shuan> anyone know how i can enable ntfs
[18:49] <TheMuffinMan> help
[18:49] <TheMuffinMan> how do u install themes
[18:49] <ABoba> shaun it should be enabled by default
[18:49] <mudkipz_lulz_900> same
[18:50] <TheMuffinMan> how themes
[18:50] <ABoba> shaun just try mounting the device and see if it works
[18:50] <TheMuffinMan> halp!
[18:50] <shuan> how would i mount it
[18:50] <derenrich> TheMuffinMan: calm down
[18:50] <silidan> mdm: after it was run finishing with done, i get without doing anything the following error:
[18:50] <Punisher> hola
[18:50] <ABoba> shaun is it listed in your places?
[18:50] <shuan> i can see 1 partition of my ntfs drive
[18:51] <shuan> the partition with windows isnt showing
[18:51] <silidan> mdm: Failed to open connection to "system" message bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket : no such file or directory
[18:51] <shuan> i checked system monitor and it lists both of them
[18:51] <mdm> silidan, restart dbus, also you may have to go recreate the directories by hand
[18:52] <daviddolphin> is there an off topic ubuntu channel?
[18:52] <ABoba> shaun you using jaunty?
[18:52] <silidan> mdm: no shit?, that was why i was asking if there is an automated way of doing all this
[18:52] <Titan8990_> !offtopic
[18:52] <tw3akUrb0x> #ubuntu-offtopie
[18:52] <shuan> yes jaunty
[18:52] <tw3akUrb0x> ubuntu-offtopic
[18:52] <mdm> silidan, yes reinstall the OS.  we call this a learning experience
[18:52] <tw3akUrb0x> <<<<<<<< pro at reinstall LOL
[18:53] <tw3akUrb0x> defined newb
[18:53] <silidan> but its linux its must be fixable without reinstall
[18:53] <Titan8990_> silidan, linux can always be fixed without reinstall
[18:53] <shuan> ABoba: yes jaunty
[18:54] <mdm> silidan, this is multiple programs that you have screwed up its running state and its data.  You can fix them, one by one, or you can reinstall the OS and let it do it.  Either way do not go deleting /var any more
[18:54] <ABoba> shaun check your messages
[18:54] <Punisher> #ubuntu-es
[18:54] <Titan8990_> silidan, but you have to compare a 1 hour reinstall to 12hr fixing session
[18:54] <Titan8990_> silidan, but /home partitions make OS reinstall nothing major
[18:54] <silidan> let me guess i will loose all data then?
[18:54] <Zzeiss> Yeah.  If you've hosed /var, it might be a better use of your time to simply reinstall.  Or find a machine you can copy from.
[18:54] <Titan8990_> silidan, did you make a /home partition?
[18:55] <silidan> i have no /home partition its all in one, sadly
[18:55] <Titan8990_> silidan, then you will need to backup prior to reinstalling
[18:55] <mdm> silidan, yes you will loose all the data in them, go copy your /home directory and /etc directory somewhere (home is your persoanl files, etc will allow you get get any custom configs back)
[18:55] <iaindalton> According to the documentation, "aptitude install gnumeric/karmic" would install the karmic version of gnumeric, even though I'm on a different distro, right?  I get "release not found"; do I need to add a line to sources.list or something?
[18:55] <mmlj4> halp! running dpkg-reconfigure locales on my linode fails, and I'm still getting "locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory", when "LANGUAGE = "en_US.utf8"," and friends are indeed set
[18:55] <Zzeiss> silidan: Actually, now is an _ideal_ time to upgrade your machine, to put in a bigger disk, etc.
[18:55] <Zzeiss> silidan: do you have a spare / larger disk handy?
[18:55] <mdm> silidan, co make a tar backup of them, we call this a learning experiance too
[18:56] <Zzeiss> (usually, when I frak up this bad, it's time for me to make it a bigger machine.  :) )
[18:56] <Thingymebob> mickster04, you still about
[18:56] <silidan> a large disk, yes but its full and as second drive in another pc
[18:56] <xiong> i dearly wish i had some help with evolution -- online info seems to contradict itself
[18:57] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah
[18:57] <MK13> is the nvidia driver's .deb the same for kubuntu & ubuntu?
[18:57] <silidan> one question if one recompiles a kernel how much disk space is used at peak during compilation?
[18:57] <mdm> silidan, tar and gzip the files in home, store them somwhere else, reinstall the OS (this time making a seperate root and home parition) then reinstal and restore the backup
[18:57] <Titan8990_> MK13, yes
[18:58] <MK13> Titan8990_, can you not install drivers on a persistent usb made by the startup usb creator?
[18:58] <Zzeiss> silidan: Well, you might want to think about buying another disk then.  If you have no disk to spare, you have no room to play.
[18:58] <Thingymebob> mickster04: I think iplayer uses wm for drm so you might need w32codecs or non-free-codecs from the medibuntu repositories
[18:58] <Titan8990_> MK13, wouldn't know
[18:58] <mickster04> aaah
[18:58] <dtownhero> can somebody help me install a program using ./configure make etc... ?
[18:58] <mickster04> yeah tat could be
[18:58] <Titan8990_> silidan, 796M	/usr/src/
[18:58] <xiong> DiskDoubler!
[18:58] <Titan8990_> silidan, that sources for 4 kernels
[18:59] <Thingymebob> mickster04: worth a shot eh?
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, and binaries that have already been compiled
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, the actual kernel image is about 2mb
[18:59] <silidan> strange i tryed to compile the kernel and it ended up using over 4 GB and running out of space
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, you were doing something very wrong
[18:59] <mickster04> Thingymebob, yeah
[18:59] <silidan> thats why i needed to delete cache, to get my space back
[18:59] <MK13> what would cause nvidia's driver not to install on a persistent usb install?
[18:59] <Titan8990_> silidan, and ubuntu does not have the best support for custom kernels
[19:00] <silidan> all in all ubuntu cost me alot of stress im about to install vista just to say ubuntus fault
[19:00] <edbian> silidan: Have fun with that...
[19:00] <Zzeiss> silidan: Well, I'd disagree.  But nobody can stop you.
[19:00] <mickster04> Thingymebob, will give you a shout when im done
[19:01] <silidan> ubuntu cost me 4 days to get the desktop properly running at beginning, and everytime there is an update something screws
[19:01] <mdm> silidan, go reinstall, putting about 25G or so as root the rest as home.  Pay attention to the size of /usr/src and /var/log.  But basicly you can spend multipel hours diagnosing programs, or you can reinstall the OS
[19:01] <Thingymebob> mickster04: cool
[19:01] <NickWebHA> Something very weird just happened with rsync and it has be pretty worried. I was syncing something from my pen drive (rsync -v --progress -h --stats -r -t --delete ./ /media/windows\ vista/_backup/64gb_usb/) and everything on my pen drive just disapeared half way through.
[19:01] <edbian> silidan: If you don't want help with an ubuntu problem than you're in the wrong place bud
[19:01] <silidan> ok will consider reinstall
[19:01] <NickWebHA> I have a half-completed backup now.
[19:01] <Zzeiss> do .fdi files automatically reload or do I need a reboot to make that happen?
[19:02] <edbian> NickWebHA: perhaps the pen drive filled up?
[19:02] <NickWebHA> Resulting in it wiping the whole thing?
[19:02] <silidan> well actually the help was just to say reinstall thats something id expect from a windows forum tough (altough i know i did screw it up that hard)
[19:02] <mdm> silidan, those 4 days is why I suggested backing up /etc as well.  Things like /etc/asound.conf, /etc/X11/xorg.conf, all of /etc/mail and /etc/samba are there
[19:02] <edbian> NickWebHA: Yeah, I know.  It should never do that.  Just a thought.
[19:03] <mdm> silidan, basicly all that "stuff" you configured by hand is there.  Everything else (like your gnome settings) are in /home so back that up too
[19:03] <silidan> i really regret switching from suse just cause of a memory leak problem... now
[19:03] <silidan> kk
[19:03] <mdm> silidan, then relay out the OS so you dont have to do this yet again in the future.  The more painfull this is the more you will learn
[19:03] <NickWebHA> It still says the 50GB is used on the pen drive. I just can not get a file list.
[19:03] <Dulak> silidan: it's a time thing, if you knew linux well, it would be a non-issue, but not knowing linux and having hosed the system so thoroughly, reinstalling is gonna be much faster than walking you through fixing everything that is broke
[19:04] <silidan> the funny thing is when i start gdm now my mouse and keyboard stop woring...
[19:04] <edbian> NickWebHA: 50GB pen drive?!?!
[19:04] <NickWebHA> 64GB.
[19:04] <NickWebHA> I am only using 50GB on it.
[19:04] <silidan> *working
[19:04] <Dulak> silidan: same exact situation on a hosed windows box, 6 hours to fix it, 1 hour to reinstall, nobody paying hourly is gonna choose the 6 hour option
[19:04] <theunixgeek> "only" ;)
[19:04] <NickWebHA> I wish I could get my hands on a 128GB. This 64GB has caused me to compromise on a few things. :-P
[19:04] <edbian> NickWebHA: I didn't know they even came that big!!  Anyway.  Is there a .Trash folder that's filled up with all that junk ??
[19:05] <NickWebHA> Nope. Not a single item in the file list.
[19:05] <theunixgeek> NickWebHA: do you not use your hard drive? ;)
[19:05] <mdm> NickWebHA, go get a sata drive and external USB enclosure.
[19:05] <mickster04> NickWebHA, are you sure its GB? not Mb?
[19:05] <silidan> o the .Trash another nice ubuntu issue, sometimes it ends up in homes trash sometimes in roots sometimes you need root rights to delete it... nice funny thing
[19:05] <NickWebHA> Between my 4GB Ubuntu-on-a-stick installation and my pen drive I can move to any PC and have my environment.
[19:05] <MK13> what is the command to clear the trash of a connected usb device w/out unmounting and waiting for the clear trash prompt?
[19:05] <edbian> Try perhaps copying something new to the drive.  Maybe the drive died in the middle of the transfer.
[19:06] <uma_> hello, did anybody tried to export sqlite db into mysql?
[19:06] <NickWebHA> I am sure: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220370
[19:06] <elena09> Does Ubuntu jaunty have some bug related to HDD? My HDD temperature is pretty high without doing anything and it seems spinning all time, I have a laptop
[19:07] <bjoern_> hello. i've got a question. i have read today that it is possible to make an iso file from the installation of ubuntu. i can use it as a live cd to. i have forgotten the name of the program, but i remember words like recovery and sys. can anybody help?
[19:07] <NickWebHA> Be right back. Am going to try rebooting as even thought I pulled the drive out it still sees it and refuses to unmount it.
[19:07] <te_> elena09: More than likely a hardware issue.
[19:07] <silidan> elena09: yea i heard of a bug or feature related to harddrives, somthing to do with powermanagement i think
[19:08] <edbian> NickWebHA: Very nice drive.  I'm sorry but I have no idea why it would blank the whole thing.  The rsync command is fine AFAIK.  Perhaps just run the command again.  Maybe it was a fluke?
[19:08] <mdm> uma_, you have to dump the sqllite to sql them import it to mysql.  Then you have to change any program that relied on that data to use a new source.  There are pleny of websites that show you how to do this
[19:08] <elena09> te_ I have Ubuntu jaUNTY
[19:08] <te_> silidan: has info for you.
[19:08] <elena09> te_ perhaps it is Ubuntu settings
[19:09] <aytekin_> hello there
[19:09] <tristanmike> Hi all :) I have a question that I would appreciate some help on. I have an ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe Motherboard. I have just purchased a new SATA drive (640GB) and I would like Ubuntu to see it. I've tried the command "sudo lshw -C disk" however it is not listed, which I suppose means it's not seen in the BIOS. The product page says it supports Serial ATA but the manual only describes the Windows installation, any help would be ap
[19:09] <tristanmike> preciated. Thanks.
[19:09] <tw3akUrb0x> hero what are you trying to install?
[19:09] <aytekin_> i ve installed amarok2
[19:09] <aytekin_> bu it dint work
[19:09] <samuelstj> can anyone help me with a choice about kernel? i bought a new pc, core 2 quad, 4Gb RAM and I don't know what version of ubuntu (32 bits or 64bits) choose
[19:10] <te_> tristanmike: sudo fdisk -l
[19:10] <derenrich> tristanmike: wait so does the bios see it?
[19:10] <derenrich> tristanmike: have you checked?
[19:10] <edbian> tristanmike: Does it show up in your bios post??
[19:10] <aytekin_> what sort of prob wolud be
[19:10] <aytekin_> what sort of prob would be
[19:10] <samuelstj> i also need to choose the kernel image
[19:10] <mickster04> samuelstj, what processor is it
[19:10] <Dulak> samuelstj: if you want to use all 4g of ram go 64 bit
[19:10] <uma_> mdm: can you link me to something? actually I'm trying to do this for amarok db following the wiki instructions but I get this error: ERROR 1062 (23000) at line 9: Duplicate entry '1' for key 1
[19:11] <Holek_> hello, when the final version of firefox 3.5 will be available thru repos?
[19:11] <mickster04> dulak surely he has to have a 64 it processor?
[19:11] <mickster04> !ff35
[19:11] <samuelstj> mickster04, Dulak,  core 2 quad 2.8 and 4 GB RAM
[19:11] <Dulak> mickster04: core 2 duo are all 64 bit
[19:11] <tristanmike> te_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/208337/
[19:11] <mickster04> oh ok
[19:11] <mdm> uma_, it sounds as if you tried importing it twice.  That or the sql dump come from an improper databse
[19:11] <MK13> !ff3.5
[19:11] <Holek_> mickster04: thanks ^^
[19:11] <Dulak> mickster04: or quad even
[19:11] <samuelstj> Dulak: and about the kernel image?
[19:11] <silidan> what packages are responsible for keyboard and mouse input?
[19:12] <mdm> uma_, however if all you are worried about is amarok just remove the database and let it recreate it.
[19:12] <Dulak> samuelstj: ??
[19:12] <te_> tristanmike: dmesg | less
[19:12] <Holek_> mickster04: simply just installed this beta package and was wondering if you know any ETA :)
[19:12] <silidan> i dont like amarok it feels so bloated
[19:12] <Dulak> samuelstj: You lost me, what are the choices?
[19:12] <samuelstj> Dulak: i am from Brazil, sorry about my english =D
[19:13] <mickster04> Holek_, nope sorry
[19:13] <Holek_> kthxbai ^^
[19:13] <uma_> mdm: I am just afraid to lose the data of the old sqlite db... anyway if i took the wrong database to import I already lost it :(
[19:13] <mickster04> samuelstj, define kernel image?
[19:13] <fantasai> my clock is often off by an hour after resuming from suspend. Can I tell it to sync via NTP or something, even though it's off by an hour and not just a minute or two?
[19:13] <mdm> uma_, however you may also be running into problems withe the differnces in sql from sqllite to mysql, things like the differnce between autoincrement and auto_increment (which is sounds like it did happen to you)
[19:13] <te_> tristanmike: See that the cable(s) are connected properly/securely. Look at bios for config settings that might have an effect.
[19:13] <aytekin_> hello
[19:13] <aytekin_> i ve installed amarok2 but it didnt work what kinf of problem could be , i dont have any idea
[19:14] <samuelstj> Dulak: i will choose 64 bits, but are so many kernel images in apt. p4-smp and k8-smp
[19:14] <aytekin_> somebody could help me
[19:14] <Jazzy> what is the default username and password for ubuntu
[19:14] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: How did you install
[19:14] <te_> tristanmike: Watch as the computer boots for errors or something indicating that the drive is being detected.
[19:14] <silidan> just to inform you i am now downloading the install cd for ubuntu 9.04
[19:15] <mdm> Jazzy, there is none, its why it asks you for one when you install
[19:15] <aytekin_> i ve installed over the synaptic pack
[19:15] <uma_> mdm: yep I thins so... the wiki just told me to "remove all commands beginning with CREATE, BEGIN TRANSACTION and COMMIT "and I did it manually...
[19:15] <Dulak> samuelstj: k8 is amd only
[19:15] <samuelstj> Dulak: ok
[19:15] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: what happens when you try to launch it?
[19:15] <samuelstj> Dulak: thx a lot
[19:15] <Jazzy> okay damn
[19:16] <Jazzy> oh well
[19:16] <tristanmike> derenrich, te_, upon boot, doesn't detect SATA, just my IDE and two ROMs (IDE)... in the BIOS, it doesn't appear that they have their own section, in the same way the IDE drives do
[19:16] <mickster04> Thingymebob, boh no luck, ill be ok without it on my laptop
[19:16] <Jazzy> PS ubuntu sucks
[19:16] <FloodBot2> Jazzy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <MK13> tristanmike, also check your master/slave settings
[19:16] <Thingymebob> mickster04: Thats real weird
[19:16] <mdm> uma_, about the only thing you will loose is your streaming settings (like podcasts), just rescan your library and resetup your streams
[19:16] <tristanmike> derenrich, te_, It should be noted that I currently have an 80GB IDE drive which Ubuntu currently resides
[19:17] <m477> #e-drama
[19:17] <derenrich> tristanmike: well it's not an ubuntu problem. master slave won't matter since it's sata...
[19:17] <aytekin_> while launching list of the track just skimming and  vent playing
[19:17] <m477> #java
[19:17] <aytekin_> it oesnt play the list
[19:17] <tristanmike> derenrich, right, it's more of a "how do I get Ubuntu to see it" kinda thing
[19:17] <aytekin_> it doesnt play the list
[19:18] <derenrich> tristanmike: you've gone into the bios settings right? not just looking at the post results?
[19:18] <uma_> mdm: I don't have any, I just lost the ratings (stars, etc) I just don't understand if switching to mysql did substitute my old file "collection.db" with a new one
[19:18] <derenrich> tristanmike: your bios can't see it, so clearly ubuntu can't
[19:18] <mickster04> Thingymebob, if there was anyway i could find the error messages that would be gr8
[19:18] <aytekin_> there is no any sot of sound
[19:18] <axisys> !firefox
[19:18] <tristanmike> derenrich, yes, but it's not listed in the same way IDE is... that is to say, on the main BIOS screen
[19:18] <aytekin_> there is no any sort of sound
[19:18] <silidan> how much space does your /usr folder use?
[19:18] <axisys> !firefox-3.5
[19:19] <te_> tristanmike: Do you have any boot disks?  Like maybe gparted liveCD?
[19:19] <mdm> uma_, it did replace it, but it rebuilt it when you started amarok again.  It may just be that your library is small enough and your computer fast enough that you didnt notice
[19:19] <aytekin_> i think i ve shortage of codec
[19:19] <te_> tristanmike: Or a slackware CD, or... any other boot disk?
[19:19] <derenrich> tristanmike: well, do you know the drive is spinning up? working? plugged in? does your mobo support it? etc.
[19:20] <tristanmike> I have a live Ubuntu CD
[19:20] <derenrich> tristanmike: live cd's can't help
[19:20] <m477> anyone know name channel of java programmers ?
[19:20] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: What type of files are they?
[19:21] <uma_> mdm: I'll try to rescan without worrying too much and see what happens... maybe I just don't need this export stuff. Do you have a better idea?
[19:21] <aytekin_> mp3
[19:21] <jmite> If someone could help me, I'm having trouble with VirtualBox. I downloaded the new 3.0 version. Oddly, the beta worked fine, but when I downloaded the official release, the VM window is half transparent
[19:21] <tristanmike> derenrich, http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=wAsRYm41KTp78MFC  -- says it supports it
[19:21] <aytekin_> an other kinds
[19:21] <te_> tristanmike: Boot the live Ubuntu CD and see if you can find it.
[19:21] <Thingymebob> mickster04: stumpled on this, but I think we've done everything here http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=60314
[19:22] <tristanmike> derenrich, plugged in, check
[19:22] <mdm> uma_, no just do what you are doing now.  Basicly you will have to redo all your custom ratings, watched statitics and so on
[19:22] <kenichi_> hello, what's the proper way to manage /etc/alternatives?  (new to ubuntu/debian)
[19:22] <aytekin_> but while running rhytimbox, there is no problem with my mp3s
[19:22] <uma_> mdm: ok thanks a lot... nobody cared to help me in mysql channel :(
[19:22] <aytekin_> just i ve with amarok2
[19:22] <tristanmike> derenrich, working - well, I'm not quite sure as the BIOS doesn't recognize it.... te_, I'll see what happens when I boot the live CD see ya in a bit. :D
[19:23] <te_> m477 /join ##java
[19:23] <derenrich> live CD wtg
[19:23] <mdm> uma_, baislcy this is an amarok problem, not a mysql one
[19:23] <jmite> anybodie have any ideas about my virtualbox problem?
[19:23] <aytekin_> i think i ll keep searching over forums
[19:24] <derenrich> te_: a live cd won't help him
[19:24] <om26er> how to completey remove mplayer
[19:24] <m477> te_:  ##java :You need to be identified to join that channel , what does it mean ?
[19:24] <derenrich> m477: get an irc accoutn
[19:24] <te_> derenrich: Yea probably because the computer is not recognizing it.
[19:24] <derenrich> te_: ... he's just wasting his time now
[19:24] <te_> m477: So register your nic
[19:25] <aytekin_> many times i ve tried many ways, but no result just as old as
[19:25] <tonii> m477: /nickserv help, to register your nick
[19:25] <edbian> om26er: "sudo apt-get purge mplayer" will remove mplayer and all config files
[19:25] <m477>  /nickserv help
[19:25] <te_> derenrich: Well, we told him from the beginning so.... not much else to do.
[19:26] <davenpro> I'm looking for a howto on how to convert a default 9.04 install to netbook remix
[19:26] <om26er> edbian: thanx
[19:26] <davenpro> not finding anything
[19:26] <davenpro> anyone know of one?
[19:26] <edbian> om26er: np
[19:26] <m477> tonii: no answer
[19:26] <edbian> davenpro: Just remove compiz and install the UNR package.
[19:26] <derenrich> davenpro: isn't there just a meta package that you can install (i don't know, I've only installed it directly)
[19:26] <alka_trash> is there a firefox 3.5 deb out there for amd64 and Jaunty?
[19:26] <davenpro> edb: from what I've read/seen theres more to it than that
[19:27] <tonii> m477: check "status windows" or whatever it's called :)
[19:27] <te_> m477: Go to statas page
[19:27] <m477> ok i know now , thx
[19:27] <derenrich> alka_trash: there are no debs out at all
[19:27] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: install phonon-backend-xine and remove phonon-backend-gstreamer
[19:27] <davenpro> reason I did normal install first is I wanted disk encryption
[19:27] <davenpro> so I installed 9.04 from the alternate cd
[19:27] <davenpro> now I want UNR :)
[19:27] <alka_trash> derenrich thanks
[19:27] <M1K3> how do you empty the trash of a mounted usb drive?
[19:28] <jmite> never mind, I fixed it
[19:28] <te_> M1K3: Probebly just delete .trash
[19:28] <codeshah> hey guys, I am opening a mov file but I cannot seek to any particular location or rewind...
[19:28] <iceroot> what is a good alternate-program for dvd shrink i can use with ubuntu? i want to copy a video-dvd
[19:28] <M1K3> te_, then it would be put in a .trash (eg. cycled)
[19:28] <thomc> which log file will contain a record of jobs performed by cron/anacron?
[19:29] <davenpro> I basically want this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Mobile/HowTo/TurnUMPCDesktopIntoNetbook
[19:29] <davenpro> for desktop
[19:29] <davenpro> instead of UMPC
[19:29] <edbian> davenpro: I'm reading it right now
[19:30] <michaeltanaka> hello
[19:30] <dmelo> hi
[19:30] <edbian> davenpro: I think there is 1 package now that handles maximus / netbook launcher / go-home-applet.  Other than that all the tutorial says is to make them start when you login.
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> how can i install
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> what is this program
[19:31] <davenpro> edb: any idea what the package is?
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> wyta
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> tfw
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> ftw
[19:31] <aytekin_> hello again
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> hello
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> kkkdkdkdkdkd
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> GFasdf
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> asdf
[19:31] <FloodBot2> michaeltanaka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <michaeltanaka> asdf
[19:31] <kane77> how can I measure the dns response speed?
[19:31] <aytekin_> ok guys i ve solved amarok2 problem at last
[19:32] <michaeltanaka> Hello
[19:32] <michaeltanaka> What is this program
[19:32] <m477> te_ tonii thx i registered :)
[19:32] <derenrich> aytekin_: you fixed its inumerable bugs?
[19:32] <aytekin_> i thought i ve shortage of codec
[19:32] <Thingymebob> aytekin_: how
[19:32] <aytekin_> i was right
[19:33] <edbian> davenpro: See the line :  Automatically turn on the netbook apps...
[19:33] <aytekin_> i ll give a site address
[19:33] <tonii> m477: np :)
[19:33] <aytekin_> http://www.mygnulinux.com/?p=129
[19:33] <edbian> davenpro: No, I have no idea lol.  Try searching UNR or ubuntu-netbook or "netbook"
[19:33] <aytekin_> i ve just installde a codec
[19:33] <davenpro> yeah I have, just info on the 'main' UNR install
[19:33] <davenpro> nothing about converting/installing on a default install
[19:34] <aytekin_> problem was about codec
[19:34] <davenpro> wtf can't they just include disk encryption on all the releases :P
[19:34] <Kangarooo> is there ar gui tool witch also includes hddtemp ?
[19:34] <aytekin_> thx again you all
[19:34] <edbian> davenpro: It says soon there will be a package that does it all for you...  I think that package already exists and the page is outdated.
[19:34] <Kangarooo> davenpro: what encryption? in witch release its not?
[19:35] <edbian> davenpro: It's all just software packages isn't it?
[19:35] <davenpro> kang: full partition/disk encryption
[19:35] <zozo> hello, I changed motherboard and now network doesnt work. I think new driver needed, can somebody help?
[19:35] <davenpro> you need the alternate install cd to do it
[19:36] <edbian> zozo: Does your network connection show up in the nm-applet?
[19:36] <davenpro> which UNR doesn't ahve
[19:36]  * Stull1 Testet IRC
[19:36] <edbian> davenpro: Isn't the encryption done by a software package?  Does it have to be before the system is installed??
[19:36] <doomguy> help, i cant boot into any other resolution than 640x480 16bit depth. I can only change resolutions after i boot into this resolution but the screen is split into different parts. i m using the intel 2.4 drivers and intrepid version.
[19:36] <datacrusher> hi there. i had many problens with my audio and alsa, using ubuntu 8 lts, so i changed to OSS. everything works fine, games, audio files, movies... but i cant use some apps, like skype, and flash movies, they got no audio. is there a way to use skype and OSS, and watch youtube movies with audio?
[19:36] <zozo> edbian, nm-applet?
[19:37] <edbian> zozo: Is this a typical ubuntu install?  gnome-desktop?
[19:37] <confounds> anyone know what the default for logrotation is on 8.04? my system doesn't have the logrotate package/command, but it's been rotating logs anyway
[19:37] <zozo> edbian: yes it is
[19:37] <cyberghoser1> !lxde
[19:38] <zozo> edbian: network manager seems to fail connection
[19:38] <The_Techie> i shall be back one sec
[19:39] <wildc4rd> on a CPU usage app (gkrellm for example), CPU use, I understand sys time and user time, what is 'nice' time please
[19:39] <dusty_> what is the command to set flags on a hard drive?
[19:40] <jrock2004> Is there a way in ubuntu to set a list of sites that can be viewed but block the rest
[19:40] <datacrusher> jrock2004, its a whitelist u wanna
[19:40] <jrock2004> datacrusher: yes
[19:40] <datacrusher> is a single station, or got firewall and stuff?
[19:40] <edbian> zozo: Sorry I had to step out for a minute.  So there is a "wired connection" but it won't connect?
[19:40] <jrock2004> datacrusher: Well they are LTSP servers
[19:40] <derenrich> anyone use tripwire in ubuntu?
[19:41] <jrock2004> datacrusher: As far as firewall that has not been setup yet
[19:41] <datacrusher> hm... the easyest solution is a proxy
[19:41] <kansan> looking for some kind of counter ... that can count how many calls i make in a given day.. something as an app or as a gnome-applet woudl be great
[19:41] <zozo> edbian: yes there is wired connection but disconnects
[19:41] <derenrich> s/easyest/easiest/
[19:41] <dusty_> is there a tool to set flags on a hard drive via the console?
[19:41] <jrock2004> datacrusher: would I have to change everyones browser though?
[19:41] <rski> dusty_: hdparm i think can do it
[19:41] <datacrusher> i dont think so
[19:42] <dusty_> rski: thanks i'll look at that quick
[19:42] <datacrusher> u can create a single gateway, and pass all the stations trought it
[19:42] <davenpro> edbian: yes, it's an encrypted LVM volume so it has to be done @ install
[19:42] <datacrusher> derenrich, sorry man, english is not my mother language
[19:42] <derenrich> datacrusher: I'm just joking
[19:42] <zozo> edbian: i would like to keep settings and programs, everything works after MB change but network
[19:42] <datacrusher> whats the correct one? easiest?
[19:42] <derenrich> yeah
[19:42] <datacrusher> thanks!
[19:43] <edbian> zozo: It disconnects?  (Changing the motherboard should not effect any of your apps.  Those are stored on the HDD)
[19:43] <datacrusher> living and learning
[19:43] <jrock2004> datacrusher: so I would need something like squid proxy or is there a better one?
[19:43] <datacrusher> jrock2004, if you set this gateway to be the proxy, every security issue you alter will affect instantly all the stations that got connected throught it
[19:43] <datacrusher> squid is friendly, lots of documentation... will do just fine
[19:44] <om26er2> can any1 plz tell me how to set my other harddrive to automount at startup
[19:44] <edbian> zozo: Can you connect and then does it bump you off?
[19:44] <om26er2> i cannot understand fstab
[19:44] <dusty_> om26er2: edit your fstab
[19:44] <edbian> om26er2 I can!
[19:44] <lesshaste> well I tried to restore debconf and not something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[19:44] <edbian> om26er2 see me pm??
[19:44] <lesshaste> any ideas?
[19:44] <zozo> edbian: i dont want to do a clean install. It seems to try connect then display massage connektion aborted
[19:45] <nub> i cant get wireshark to recognize my ethernet drive as a collection point.. are there any other protocol analyzers that are as good as wireshark/ ehtereal that i can install on ubuntu.. i have already tried the synaptics package manager but couldnt find anything.. thanks for the help!!!
[19:45] <edbian> zozo: You do not need to reinstall.
[19:45] <mickster04> Thingymebob, sorr yhad to dash if you had any new ideas i'd love to hear them but i havent yet recieved them:p
[19:45] <zagabar_> Hm, I seem to have a ghost here... zagabar1. It won't let me log in cause that is in use...
[19:45] <zagabar_> How can I fix it?
[19:45] <lesshaste> oops
[19:45] <lesshaste> I tried to restore debconf and now something has gone wrong when trying to install the kernels?  See http://pastebin.ca/1481697
[19:45] <tristanmike> te_, derenrich, OK, thanks guys, you made me look a little deeper and in my manual, in a tucked away paragraph it mentioned jumpers...it appears that the jumpers were set do disable SATA. I've enabled them and now the BIOS sees it and according to "lshw -C disk" the disk is there proper as well, http://paste.ubuntu.com/208374/
[19:45] <mickster04> zagabar_, ghost them
[19:45] <edbian> zozo: Perhaps your network is the problem?
[19:46] <edbian> zozo: I don't really know.  Ask around!  Sorry I can't help more :(
[19:46] <mickster04> zagabar_, /ghost <Username> <password>
[19:46] <derenrich> tristanmike: woo!
[19:46] <derenrich> tristanmike: I knew you could do it!
[19:46] <lstarnes> zagabar_: /msg nickserv ghost nick password
[19:46] <zozo> edbian: my network is ok because i did a clean jaunty install too and there works
[19:46] <derenrich> :)
[19:46] <mickster04> zagabar_, sorry like lstarnes said
[19:46] <tristanmike> derenrich, Not without you all to push me a little further :D
[19:47] <jrock2004> datacrusher: thanks for your input
[19:47] <dusty_> it doesn't look like hdparm can set the "raid" flag. are there any alternatives? i really don't want to boot a live cd...
[19:47] <zagabar_> mickster04, lstarnes thanks it worked!
[19:47] <datacrusher> be welcome
[19:48] <dusty_> it doesn't look like hdparm can set the "raid" flag. are there any alternatives? i really don't want to boot a live cd...
[19:48] <xiong> finally found a decent vector graphics editor and it's been abandoned :(
[19:49] <wildc4rd> getting some skipping of audio/video in Totem player, is this normal behaviour?
[19:49] <dusty_> wildc4rd: are you using gstreamer?
[19:49] <ltcabral> can anyone point me a tutorial to set up a MIT Kerberos 5 server on my local machine?
[19:49] <n2diy>  I just did a fresh install of 8.04, and have the system up to date. I'm customizing my desktop, and when I move the top panel down to the bottom of the desktop, both panels dissapear, and I have to ctrl-alt+backspace, to regain control of the system. When I log back in, everything is ok, until I try to move the top panel again, what gives?
[19:49] <dusty_> it doesn't look like hdparm can set the "raid" flag. are there any alternatives? i really don't want to boot a live cd...
[19:49] <wildc4rd> dusty_, its local content
[19:50] <zozo> Is it possible to reinstall network driver? realtek rtl8111dl
[19:50] <deany> if PSD is for Photoshop, what is for Gimp?  I know it can save as PSD files, but it for some reason cant save layers that use the Dodge layer effect.
[19:50] <krammer_> You have mail in /var/spool/mail/krammer how can i open this msg?
[19:51] <dusty_> wildc4rd, what is your multimedia framework?
[19:51] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:53] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:53] <wildc4rd> dusty_, I'm pretty new to linux, how am I going to te;
[19:53] <wildc4rd> s/te;/tell
[19:53] <whole> Is there anyone on here that would be able to help me with a question relating to creating a custom liveusb?
[19:53] <doomguy> how do you choose vga=ask in boot menu
[19:53] <silidan> which linux distro will do best as low latency audio workstation ? (with realtime kernel)
[19:53] <kromar> hi
[19:54] <dusty_> wildc4rd, gstreamer is basicall the system that drives your audio system. it is the "driver" if you will.
[19:54] <davertron> hi, i just installed jaunty on my macbook pro 2,2, everything seems to work fine except i see no wireless networks in network manager and the networks are definitely there because i'm connected via my iphone; can anyone help?
[19:54] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:54] <kromar> i installed a wrong gpu driver and now my display is all fancy colors and screwed u, how can i fix that?
[19:54] <lesshaste> can anyone help with this ? http://pastebin.ca/1482194
[19:54] <davertron> also, the "wireless" section that shows up when i click on the network manager icon is greyed out, which seems weird
[19:55] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive throught the console?
[19:55] <krammer_> kromar, unistall that driver
[19:55] <davertron> if I do "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" i see the wireless network i want to connect to
[19:55] <davertron> just doesn't shot up in network manager for some reason
[19:55] <kromar> krammer_: and how do i do that when i cant see anything?
[19:55] <krammer_> kromar, how did you install it?
[19:55] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive through the console?
[19:55] <kromar> krammer_: in the add/remove app
[19:56] <krammer_> kromar,now go back and uncheck it then apply
[19:56] <kromar> krammer_: i cant even log in, i dont see anything
[19:56] <MrQuietGuy> After today's update I have No Soundcard Found and, consequently, no sound.  Anybody has a link to the solution?
[19:56] <xiw> hello pals.
[19:57] <davertron> can anyone help me with troubleshooting some wireless issues?
[19:57] <krammer_> kromar, can you log into the console?
[19:57] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive through the console?
[19:57] <xiw> is there any simple way to manually change the Show Desktop button logo and the Trash Can logo in Gnome?
[19:57] <kromar> krammer_: yes
[19:58] <SnakesAndStuff> I'm using Ubuntu 8.04.3, 64-bit version.  When I open up gedit, and then try to open a file from within, gedit crashes.  It does not crash when I do a "gedit filename" or drag and drop a file onto gedit.  It seems the open file dialog box is causing the crash.  GnomeBaker, gimp, other programs function normally it seems.
[19:58] <krammer_> kromar, log in as root then apt-get unistall <file>
[19:58] <krammer_> how go to go
[19:58] <krammer_> sorry
[19:58] <SnakesAndStuff> Is there a way that I can install packages with debugging symbols in them so that I can step it through and supply a core dump to aid in fixing?
[19:58] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a hard drive through the console?
[19:59] <kromar> krammer_: well i dont even know the exact file name... how can i find that one? o_O
[19:59] <MrQuietGuy> This thing is kind of a zoo!
[20:00] <davertron> MrQuietGuy: ha
[20:00] <davertron> MrQuietGuy: welcome to IRC :)
[20:00] <Alex1> Acnaven estas?
[20:00] <MrQuietGuy> Update just broke my sound, anybody have a recommendation?
[20:01] <smotchkkiss> hello everyone
[20:01] <naiad> Is there a way to force dhclient to look for an ipv4 address isntead of ipv6?  I think my router does not like 6 i cannot access my network at all
[20:01] <MrQuietGuy> howdy
[20:01] <smotchkkiss> I was curious if we could change the name to "unbuntu"? can we get a vote going?
[20:01] <trohs> Hello everybody, i have a doubt: Why firefox is not auto up
[20:01] <lwells> How do I get more involved in Ubuntu?
[20:01] <trohs> Hello everybody, i have a doubt: Why firefox is not auto updating to 3.5?
[20:01] <rski> !firefox3-5
[20:01] <lwells> I want to learn and help
[20:01] <lstarnes> !ff35 | rski
[20:01] <Alex1> Clarooo.
[20:01] <rski> lwells: feel free to do what you want :)
[20:01] <kromar> how can i get a list of installed packages in console?
[20:02] <lwells> rski, but how
[20:02] <trohs> ubottu: thanks
[20:02] <lwells> I am a NoOb
[20:02] <rski> lwells: well what do you want to doo
[20:02] <davertron> you can also install firefox3-5 pretty easily manually without mucking up your 3.0 profile
[20:02] <lwells> Help with the code somehow
[20:02] <smotchkkiss> I personally think unbuntu has a better sound to it. I think it would help people adopt this distro when comparing it to others. Where can I officially submit this suggestion?
[20:02] <naiad> ive gone through a lot of articles and it seems in 9.04 ipv6 is compiled into the kernel and people say you to install a different kernel to get around it.  either a newer one or one from 8.10  but i cant get online at all as it currently stands
[20:02] <rski> lwells: launchpad.net is a good place to start and look around
[20:03] <lwells> Look at code try to figure out how to fix problems
[20:03] <lwells> ok
[20:03] <Spike1506> Whats the best FTP client for Ubuntu?
[20:03] <robin_> anyone here can help i can get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:03] <rski> !best
[20:03] <nascentmind> hi. does anybody get part black screen with ati cards? what's the cause of it?
[20:03] <lwells> rski, you can participate at launchpad?
[20:03] <udettner> hi, i used launchpad app-collect but it pasted the data to the wrong bug. Its in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3d/+bug/75006 instead of https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+question/75006  how can i change this?
[20:04] <rski> lwells: yea
[20:04] <udettner> apport-collect
[20:04] <trohs> nascentmind: I've got it with intel card...
[20:04] <lwells> You can send messages that you want to get involved
[20:04] <lwells> ?
[20:04] <robin_> anyone here can help i can get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:04] <davertron> robin_: sounds like you probably have a non-native resolution set on that monitor
[20:05] <smotchkkiss> robin_: i'm trying to get a vote going to change the distro name to "unbuntu." I can help you with your issue if you'll help me.
[20:05] <nascentmind> trohs, i get this whenever i open firefox and part of the screen is black.. whenever i minimize maximize will it go away. does this happen to you too?
[20:05] <lwells> rski, launchpad is all Ubuntu code?
[20:05] <trohs> nascentmind: Because I've tried to install the drivers by myself
[20:05] <davertron> smotchkkiss: lol
[20:05] <kromar> how can i pause a output in console before it scrolls out of the screen?
[20:05] <trohs> nascentmind: No...
[20:05] <rski> lwells: in the ubuntu section, yes :)
[20:05] <Kangarooo> does somebody knows what is a load cycle? its something with hdd.. so it just works.. so how can it have problems? I just read that there were some mystic load cycle problems what can't find what is load cycle
[20:05] <trohs> nascentmind: But I'm almost sure you have a driver problem
[20:05] <smotchkkiss> I think it's close enough to the original name that people won't be confused, but more catchy in that more people will adopt this distro compared to others.
[20:06] <jrib> !participate | lwells
[20:06] <smotchkkiss> davertron: don't you think though?
[20:06] <trohs> nascentmind: In fact, I am sure you have a driver problem
[20:06] <marco__> hi guys
[20:06] <jrib> lwells: #ubuntu-bugs is a good place to start if you want to help with bugs (see the wiki)
[20:06] <smotchkkiss> robin_: try /nick unbuntu
[20:06] <davertron> smotchkkiss: but what will it MEAN?
[20:06] <signpost> I've got this software raid 1 array from another system that I plugged in.  I was able to assemble an array from one pair of drives, but when I try the second pair, it says "mdadm: cannot open device /dev/sde1: Device or resource busy"  Does anyone have any insights?
[20:06] <jrib> !ftp | Spike1506
[20:06] <MrCraig> hi everyone :)
[20:06] <datacrusher> hi there. i had many problens with my audio and alsa, using ubuntu 8 lts, so i changed to OSS. everything works fine, games, audio files, movies... but i cant use some apps, like skype, and flash movies, they got no audio. is there a way to use skype and OSS, and watch youtube movies with audio?
[20:06] <kromar> how can i pause a output in console before it scrolls out of the screen?
[20:07] <jrib> kromar: a real console or terminal in X?
[20:07] <tonii> signpost: unmount the hd, maybe?
[20:07] <trohs> nascentmind: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496 (have you already tried this?)
[20:07] <smotchkkiss> davertron: no one truly knows what ubuntu means right now; the meaning was lost in the medieval times. people would think unbuntu is just another mysterious word.
[20:07] <kromar> jrib: real console
[20:07] <signpost> tonii: not mounted anywhere
[20:07] <davertron> signpost: yeah, agree with tonii, sounds like you have that drive mounted or something
[20:07] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: have you tried running it from a terminal first?
[20:07] <jrib> !debug | SnakesAndStuff
[20:07] <kromar> jrib: i cant access the systemm
[20:07] <tonii> signpost: unmount it anyway, just for the fun of it :D
[20:07] <jrib> kromar: hit the pause button on your keyboard, or scroll lock (I forget which)
[20:08] <davertron> smotchkkiss: ahhhh, so why is it an improvement then?
[20:08] <signpost> tonii: did
[20:08] <MrCraig> From my win box I use putty to ssh my home server and tunnel mysql through - I do this so that the only port open on my database server is 22.   From my linux box though, I don't know how to setup a tunnel through ssh - can anyone help me out please?
[20:08] <jrib> kromar: why not?
[20:08] <MK13> kromar, you can use 'command > filename' to print out to a file and then look at the file (most of the time)
[20:08] <jrib> smotchkkiss: this isn't really related to ubuntu support...
[20:08] <tristanmike> If I'm filesharing between Linux and Windows, is it still recommended to use FAT32 for all shared partitions/disks ??
[20:08] <robin_> anyone here can help i can get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:08] <tonii> signpost: oh, then I don't know. software raid ain't my thing tbh :)
[20:08] <signpost> tonii: neither partition is mounted, tried unmounting both
[20:08] <signpost> blast! :D
[20:08] <tonii> hehe
[20:08] <shuan> Hi
[20:08] <smotchkkiss> davertron: it's purely a phonetic improvement. in fact, we could go one step further and call it unbuntun. that way we have the repetitive UN sound three whole times!
[20:08] <nascentmind> trohs, yes i have
[20:08] <signpost> it's my media drive :D
[20:09] <amireldor> MrCraig, check the -L option on ssh man page
[20:09] <lstarnes> kromar: you could also try piping through a pager such as less or most
[20:09] <jrib> kromar: seems like scroll lock is what you want
[20:09] <kromar> jrib: because i installed some crap app for the gpu which messed up my screen and i cant see anything so i try to find that app and remove it
[20:09] <SnakesAndStuff> jrib: Yup, tried running it from a terminal, no output that says why it crashes
[20:09] <MrCraig> ty amireldor
[20:09] <jrib> !fixres | robin_
[20:09] <Grab> hi
[20:09] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: the !debug link ubottu gave has repositories for packages with debug symbols
[20:09] <davertron> smotchkkiss: hmmm, i do kind of like that...
[20:09] <Grab> how can i search for a regex in nano ?
[20:09] <kromar> jrib: pause or scroll lock doesent work i cant pause it manually because its to fast
[20:10] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: you should see if it happens with a fresh new user too
[20:10] <te_> M1K3:
[20:10] <kromar> jrib: isnt there a command like in dos to halt after one screen?
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: what exactly are you doing?
[20:10] <tonii> signpost: sde1, is that usb?
[20:10] <trohs> nascentmind: i have no idea, sorry... keep asking
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: pipe to less as someone said
[20:10] <MK13> te_, ?
[20:10] <kromar> jrib: i want to list the installed packages
[20:10] <trohs> nascentmind: try also #ati
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: aptitude search '~i' | less
[20:10] <shuan> I have created a directory for my NTFS partition in the media folder and when i click on the NTFS folder it opens my windows filesystem however this isnt showing the partition in COMPUTER or my desktop
[20:10] <nascentmind> trohs, ok
[20:10] <te_> MK13: mistake
[20:10] <Mike_lifeguard> How do I update grub to boot from a different partition than it's set up for now?
[20:10] <te_> sorry
[20:10] <SnakesAndStuff> jrib: Many thanks!  I want to help, just didn't know where to start... Now I have a direction
[20:10] <kromar> jrib: what does that do?
[20:10] <jrib> kromar: why you would ever want to scroll through that though is beyond me.  Try it
[20:10] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: edit menu.lst
[20:10] <MK13> te_, kk
[20:11] <edbian> shuan: You mounted it manually?
[20:11] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: But what have you done?
[20:11] <shuan> yes
[20:11] <edbian> shuan: But it isn't in computer??
[20:11] <smotchkkiss> davertron: I think it's a worthwhile improvement. I understand there are countless places to update the name but the transition wouldn't have to be a rapid one as, at first glance, unbuntun /looks/ just like ubuntu; however, if someone actually takes the time to read it, they will be very pleased with its phonetic harmony!
[20:11] <shuan> no
[20:11] <shuan> its only in the media folder
[20:11] <kromar> jrib: because i dont even know the name of the package. how would you remove it if you dont know the name?
[20:11] <jrib> !ot | smotchkkiss
[20:11] <Mike_lifeguard> te_: on the new root partition? isn't there something like reinstall-grub command you also need to run?
[20:12] <robin_> anyone here can help i can't get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:12] <jrib> kromar: but there will be thousands of things on that list.  You don't know anything about the package?
[20:12] <te_> !grub | mike
[20:12] <smotchkkiss> ah i'll head to #unbuntun-offtopic
[20:12] <sagredo> hey buds
[20:12] <NickWebHA> I figured out my rsync  from the 64GB pen drive problem.
[20:12] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: Yes
[20:12] <sagredo> what's the deal with this compilation error
[20:12] <sagredo> -DDEBUG -I/opt/gnome/include    -c -o src/main.o src/main.c
[20:12] <sagredo> Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[20:12] <sagredo> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[20:12] <sagredo> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[20:12] <FloodBot2> sagredo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:12] <jrib> robin_: read the link ubottu gave you
[20:12] <NickWebHA> Ubuntu has a fit. A reboot fixed it. No data lost.
[20:12] <NickWebHA> ^ had
[20:12] <redsoxking> is it possible to have a ubuntu on a smart phone, I hate WM6.1
[20:13] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: There's grub-instal
[20:13] <davertron> robin_: what resolution is your monitor, and what is the video hardware on the machine you're running ubuntu on?
[20:13] <kromar> jrib: not really, only know its some ati stuff
[20:13] <Mike_lifeguard> right, thanks
[20:13] <kromar> jrib: or is there a way to roll back or something like that?
[20:13] <shuan> edbian: its not in COMPUTER or DESKTOP, only in Media folder
[20:13] <kansan> looking for some kind of counter ... that can count how many calls i make in a given day.. something as an app or as a gnome-applet woudl be great  (thats not a calculator)
[20:13] <MK13> is it possible to install drivers on a USB peristent install of Ubuntu?
[20:13] <kansan> is there a way to run firefox 3.5 on ubuntu hardy?
[20:13] <MK13> !ff3.5
[20:13] <te_> Mike_lifeguard: (The tab-key is your friend.)
[20:14] <jrib> kromar: I don't understand how you cannot know anything about what you want to remove.  Why don't you explain what you end-goal is
[20:14]  * smotchkkiss invites davertron to #unbuntun and #unbuntun-offtopic
[20:14] <tristanmike> If I'm filesharing between Linux and Windows, is it still recommended to use FAT32 for all shared partitions/disks ??
[20:14] <Devon_C> hey guys, I'm having some trouble with Firefox right now. Whenever I go to forzamotorsport.net I get stuck in a loop with a dialogue box that asks me if I want to continue even though there's a possibility of being on an unencrypted connection
[20:14] <edbian> shuan: I'm not sure.  That is strange. :/
[20:14] <Devon_C> I disabled all the dialogue boxes
[20:14] <Devon_C> and I still get stuck
[20:14] <kromar> jrib: i explained it 3 times already, i want to "REMOVE" the diplay drivers so ican acctually see something in ubuntu
[20:14] <shuan> edbian: yes it is
[20:14] <sagredo> dudes
[20:15] <sagredo> I got to get these binaries compiled like pronto
[20:15] <sagredo> what gives
[20:15] <te_> Devon_C: Tell it not to ask you again.
[20:15] <Donedeez> random: can anyone help me with rc.d? and further explain what it is
[20:15] <sagredo> let me link pastebin
[20:15] <Devon_C> te_: won't let me
[20:15] <edbian> shuan: lol.  I don't have any ideas.  Sorry :(
[20:15] <jrib> kromar: removing them would not doing anything.  And this is the first time you have explained it to me.  Just change the driver being used in your xorg.conf
[20:15] <Devon_C> te_: I visit the site regularly too, I dont know why it started doing it now
[20:15] <te_> Donedeez: Startup scripts
[20:15] <davertron> kansan: read this, it'll probably get you going http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=681052
[20:15] <alan_> hello
[20:15] <shuan> edbian: isit possible to make a shortcut to it
[20:15] <alan_> test
[20:16] <Donedeez> te_: i have rc1.d up to 6.d but no actual 'rc.d'. do i need it?
[20:16] <SnakesAndStuff> jrib: : just tried it under a different user, it works.... I guess I probably have something funky in a conf file then?
[20:16] <edbian> shuan: Yeah.  But you can't place (symlinks they're called) in computer
[20:16] <jrib> SnakesAndStuff: yeah, good luck!
[20:16] <kromar> jrib: and how would i do that?
[20:16] <jrib> kromar: pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:17] <kromar> jrib: and how can i paste something when i cant enter the system??
[20:17] <jrib> !pastebinit | kromar
[20:17] <sagredo> http://pastebin.com/m7a1dc8ef
[20:17] <sagredo> someone's got this
[20:17] <Donedeez> can anyone help me with rc.d?
[20:17] <sagredo> gcc compilation error
[20:17] <sagredo> hook me up
[20:17] <sagredo> http://pastebin.com/m7a1dc8ef
[20:17] <confounds> how do you tell logrotate to never delete any old, rotated log files?
[20:17] <jrib> !compiling > sagredo
[20:18] <te_> Donedeez: No, you only need rc1.d rc2.d rc3.d
[20:18] <te_> etc
[20:18] <te_> Donedeez: What do you need?
[20:18] <te_> Donedeez: What are you trying to do?
[20:18] <Donedeez> socket files
[20:18] <Donedeez> and a script relies on rc.d
[20:18] <Donedeez> i was wondering if i coudl just edit the script to one of hte numbers
[20:19] <te_> Donedeez: Yes you can edit them...
[20:19] <te_> Donedeez: What do you need to do?
[20:19] <Donedeez> k. does it matter which number i use?
[20:19] <Donedeez> i am trying to set up a socket policy file
[20:19] <B0BBY> Hello People.
[20:19] <redsoxking> is it possible to have a ubuntu on a smart phone, I hate WM6.1
[20:19] <te_> Donedeez: It only orders them, (order in which they are run)
[20:19] <kromar> jrib: thats nice and all but i dont have inet connection on that pc...
[20:20] <B0BBY> so a Sheeva Plug has a ubuntu variant or something installed.
[20:20] <B0BBY> would it be ok to ask questions for that in this channel?
[20:20] <jrib> kromar: what version of ubuntu?
[20:20] <Donedeez> k so it doesnt really matter which number i use then i guess.. yea?
[20:20] <MK13> redsoxking, you might try Android...not ubuntu but you might like it better than wm6
[20:20] <kromar> jrib:9.04
[20:20] <jrib> B0BBY: depends on the question, give it a try.  Worst-case scenario, it seems like it's not default ubuntu behavior and we send you away :)
[20:21] <semitemos> could someone assist me in finding out which graphics driver I'm using?
[20:21] <jrib> kromar: you should be fine with just renaming xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup
[20:21] <dusty_> how do i create a partition on a /dev/sda using parted?
[20:21] <jrib> dusty_: use gparted
[20:21] <B0BBY> jrib: ok I'll send my friend with the question in here. :)
[20:21] <dusty_> jrib - it's a server install. i'm SSHing into it
[20:21] <B0BBY> thanks.
[20:22] <edbian> dusty_: Do you know what gparted is / how to get it??
[20:22] <kromar> jrib:wahts the command to rename?
[20:22] <te_> Donedeez: If you'll notice, rc2.d and rc3.d are same, so if you put what you want in rc2.d, that's prbably all you need to do.
[20:22] <semitones> could someone help me with my graphics driver?
[20:22] <barbarella> kromar:mv
[20:22] <jrib> dusty_: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/parted.html I guess then
[20:22] <signpost> tonii: nah, I just have a crapload of disks; it's a server
[20:22] <jrib> kromar: mv old new
[20:22] <kromar> jrib:and where exactly is the xorg.conf located?
[20:23] <dusty_> edbain: yes i know what gparted it. i do not have gnome installed. it is a headless server
[20:23] <jrib> kromar: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:23] <dusty_> jrib: thanks i'll look at that manual
[20:23] <tonii> signpost: ah :P
[20:23] <Mike_lifeguard> So, I'm booting from a new HD -- what do I need to remember to change? UUID in /etc/fstab, grub...?
[20:23] <jrib> dusty_: there might be a parted channel but for something so simple I imagine the manual is probably faster
[20:23] <Ace2017_-> how many years of support does dapper have left?
[20:24] <mdm> dusty_, use fdisk
[20:24] <kromar> jrib: still the same problem....
[20:24] <jrib> Ace2017_-: 2 on the server
[20:24] <jrib> kromar: you rebooted?
[20:24] <tristanmike> If I'm filesharing between Linux and Windows, is it still recommended to use FAT32 for all shared partitions/disks ?? Or what would be suggested ?
[20:24] <semitones> is there an easy way to find out what drivers the computer is using right now?
[20:24] <Ace2017_-> jrib: does 2 on the server mean that the repos for dapper will be up for 2 more years, i need it for a VM
[20:25] <jrib> Ace2017_-: why not use hardy?
[20:25] <te_> semitones: lsmod
[20:25] <dusty_> jrib: right. if i have to i'll boot a live cd. i just want to see if i can avoid connecting a cd rom
[20:25] <semitones> te_, thanks
[20:25] <Mike_lifeguard> tristanmike: isn't ntfs default for windows? linux can read/write to ntfs just fine
[20:25] <Ace2017_-> jrib: i'm running an old program in the VM, its binary only
[20:25] <dusty_> mdm: fdisk can do that?
[20:25] <te_> semitones: NP
[20:25] <kromar> jrib: jup, reboot, still same messed up display
[20:25] <dusty_> mdm: i guess i knew that :s lol
[20:25] <jrib> Ace2017_-: well the repos will always be up you just won't get security updates after support ends
[20:25] <kromar> jrib: gona reinstall everything... this is to stupid
[20:25] <enterneo> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errors there too - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3
[20:26] <Ace2017_-> thats fine
[20:26] <chetnick> Mike_lifeguard: yes it has support to r/w NTFS but it needs to be compiled into kernel.
[20:26] <Ace2017_-> thanks
[20:26] <barbarella> tristanmike:depends if you like to set permissions
[20:26] <Pantcho> Hello, i have an ARM mini laptop with crap wince5.0 on it. i want to install ubuntu 9.04 that it is said supports ARM. but i have a usb only interface on my mini laptop. anyone know a guide to do this installment? thank you.
[20:26] <nascentmind> I am getting the following part black screen --> http://imagebin.ca/view/Fm-2heDG.html
[20:26] <tristanmike> barbarella: how so ?
[20:26] <dexter_> i need help
[20:26] <Mike_lifeguard> enterneo: I don't see any errors
[20:26] <dexter_> i get error 21
[20:26] <kromar> anyone knows where i can get a ATI FireGL 9000 driver?
[20:26] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, yes I do
[20:27] <enterneo_> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errors there too - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3
[20:27] <Mike_lifeguard> enterneo_: please don't repeat yourself
[20:27] <Zopiac> can the mount command mount isos?
[20:27] <barbarella> tristanmike:cause you can't set permissions on a fat32 partition
[20:27] <tristanmike> Mike_lifeguard: yes, NTFS is default of OS install (XP), but I just want to make sure the support for NTFS is "proper" now... I haven't used Windows in years and last time I did, NTFS was not recommended
[20:27] <tristanmike> barbarella: from Linux ? Really ?
[20:27] <jrib> !iso | Zopiac
[20:27] <dexter_> grub error 21 when booting up  on my windows harddive and even if i switch the hardrive boot sequance i get that error only if i unplug the windows harddive and just load the linux one can i boot up into linux but i can't boot up into windows please help
[20:28] <te_> Zopiac: Short answer: Yes
[20:28] <Zopiac> jrib: thanks
[20:28] <jrib> dexter_: are you using UUID in your menu.lst?
[20:28] <dusty_> mdm: thanks for telling me to use fdisk. It worked like a charm, and i didn't have to look anything up :)
[20:28] <dexter_> jrib, i havent
[20:28] <mdm> dusty_, np it is the standard btw.
[20:28] <Mandrake6> join #ubuntu-br
[20:28] <jrib> dexter_: that would fix your problems
[20:28] <dexter_> jrib, i havent messed with that yet i have just installed it on a harddive
[20:28] <dexter_> jrib, how do i fix it?
[20:28] <nascentmind> can somebody help me with the video problem ?
[20:29] <barbarella> tristanmike:security is not an issue?
[20:29] <dusty_> mdm: i'll remember that for next time :) i'm glad i could avoid the whole live cd thing ;)
[20:29] <jrib> dusty_: are you on the working system now?
[20:29] <te_> nascentmind: Ask your question(s)
[20:29] <jrib> dexter_: are you on the working system now?
[20:29] <dexter_> jrib, yes kinda
[20:29] <jrib> dexter_: erm, "kinda"?
[20:29] <shuan> anyone know why my ntfs drive is not showing up in computer or desktop
[20:29] <dexter_> jrib, i am working on one of the harddive
[20:29] <dusty_> jrib: technically. i'm sshing into it. i got it working now
[20:29] <dexter_> jrib, the one with linux
[20:30] <te_> shuan: Not mounted?
[20:30] <dexter_> jrib, but not the one that gets the error
[20:30] <jrib> dexter_: ok.  Pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:30] <robin_> anyone here can help i can't get my ubuntu to fullscreen all i get now is a center screen??
[20:30] <te_> shuan: sudo fdisk -l
[20:30] <jrib> dexter_: wait.  You have more than one linux installed?
[20:30] <tristanmike> barbarella: no, just my personal computer, like I was saying to Mike, I haven't used Windows in years, I (unfortunately) need to now, so I wanted to make sure NTFS support was fine as last time I had Windows and Linux together, NTFS was "use at own risk" kinda thing.
[20:30] <enterneo> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errors there too - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3
[20:30] <barbarella> shuan:try to mount it manualy, man ntfs-3g
[20:30] <nascentmind> I get part of the screen black and the other part normal. why is that? how can if fix it? http://imagebin.ca/view/Fm-2heDG.html
[20:31] <mats> hi
[20:31] <dexter_> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m59a82213
[20:31] <tristanmike> barbarella: the reason I'm even curious is because I'm concerned about the FAT 4 gig file limitation...
[20:31] <SheevaPlug> Trying to get rt2870 drivers compiled, anyone done that?
[20:31] <dusty_> jrib, mdm: all is well now. ran fdisk, created a new partition, and then ran mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1 and its workin like a champ now. thank you both :)
[20:32] <mats> lspci | grep ati
[20:32] <barbarella> tristanmike:depends on many things, one i have already said, the other is big files
[20:32] <jrib> dexter_: does linux always work then regardless of how your disks are ordered?
[20:32] <jrib> dusty_: cool
[20:32] <B0BBY> I see you SheevaPlug ....
[20:32] <dusty_> how do i set the "raid" flag now?
[20:32] <dexter_> jrib, no it only works if i unplug the windows harddive when booting up
[20:32] <dexter_> jrib, but i can load it now
[20:32] <jrib> dexter_: what happens exactly when you don't unplug it?
[20:32] <dexter_> jrib, not windows but i can see inside the windows harddive
[20:33] <om26er1> /dev/sda1 /media/ssd ext4 rw,user,reltime,auto 0 2
[20:33] <barbarella> tristanmike:take a look at ntfs-3g
[20:33] <Pantcho> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/jaunty/release/ - i have ARM processor which image/iso should i download?
[20:33] <om26er1> is there anythin wrong
[20:33] <om26er1> /dev/sda1 /media/ssd ext4 rw,user,reltime,auto 0 2
[20:33] <mats> http://pastebin.com/
[20:33] <om26er1> help me plz
[20:34] <dexter_> jrib, ok so i am booting up and i unplug the windows harddive and then i get the  grub menu which has options to boot up into windows or ubuntu but when i click windows it doesn't work because the harddive isn't pluggged in
[20:34] <te_> jrib: He more than likely installed when the MS Windows driver was unplugged. so...
[20:34] <barbarella> tristanmike:so you can partition your windows drive as a ntfs partition and write to it from linux
[20:34] <om26er1> help me plz
[20:34] <tristanmike> barbarella: right, I understand that, the large files is my concern, so my question is, if I were to share partitions between Windows and Linux, is it safe to use NTFS. The last time I had to use shared partitions, the NTFS write support in Linux was "could corrupt data"
[20:34] <jrib> om26er1: I'm pretty sure the "reltime" option does not exist
[20:34] <tristanmike> barbarella: so it is perfectly safe to write to NTFS from Linux ?
[20:34] <SheevaPlug> Bobby have you gotten the rt2870 working before?
[20:34] <dusty_> Does anyone know how to set the raid flag on a drive on the console?
[20:34] <mats> thomas what is it
[20:34] <mats> ?
[20:34] <tristanmike> barbarella: well, "safe enough" ;)
[20:35] <thomas__> http://pastebin.com/da92c9d4
[20:35] <barbarella> tristanmike:the ntfs kernel driver, not ntfs-3g
[20:35] <te_> dexter_: Are joking?
[20:35] <mats> thomas_
[20:35] <jrib> dexter_: alright, but what happens when it is plugged in?
[20:35] <diffred> command line to delete all but .txt files?
[20:35] <mats> thomas__
[20:35] <dexter_> te_, what?
[20:35] <diffred> something like rm !*.txt?
[20:35] <jrib> diffred: do you happen to use zsh...?
[20:35] <x_O> Argh
[20:35] <diffred> jrib: nope
[20:35] <x_O> How do you install Firefox 3.5 from source in 8.04?
[20:35] <jrib> diffred: then use find
[20:35] <tristanmike> barbarella: which does Ubuntu use by default ?
[20:35] <jrib> !firefox | x_O
[20:36] <tristanmike> barbarella: if you know
[20:36] <dexter_> jrib, even if its the secondary hardddive i get an error saying grub loading error 21
[20:36] <rojanu> After upgrade to jaunty on boot my system halt at
[20:36] <rojanu> setting advanced power management level to 0xfe (254)
[20:36] <edbian> om26er: You there still??
[20:36] <x_O> jrb would be nice if that halped
[20:36] <x_O> but im on 9.04
[20:36] <x_O> 8.04 *
[20:36] <x_O> Hardy Heron
[20:36] <FloodBot2> x_O: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <jrib> x_O: did you actually read it?
[20:36] <dusty_> figured out how to set raid flag. using gparted type "set 1 raid on"
[20:36] <dexter_> jrib, it might be another number but i think its 21
[20:37] <mdm> tristanmike, it was never a NTFS on linux isssue.  It was a fuse on pre 2.6.9 kernels, just use a newer kernel and it will be fine
[20:37] <jrib> x_O: erm, the page changed since I last looked.  Go through the history, you'll see instructions on installing the tar.gz
[20:37] <x_O> yea... hmm seeing alphas
[20:37] <thomas__> i dont know how to install xserver, my graficchip is nvidia 8400m g, please have a look to http://pastebin.com/da92c9d4
[20:37] <jrib> !away > ToXBoT-AFK
[20:37] <barbarella> tristanmike:and do a mount -t ntfs-3g
[20:38] <tristanmike> mdm: oh, ok, so when I install the current version of Ubuntu, I should be cool as ice ?
[20:38] <SheevaPlug> I'm trying to compile wifi driver for shevaplug and it's failing
[20:38] <x_O> not seeing that
[20:38] <mdm> tristanmike, yes
[20:38] <enterneo_> i am on ubuntu live installer, the install failed at 94% (when grub was installing), I tried to reinstall grub with the terminal but found errros in between, although the process shows as successful - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3 , but when I reboot I see no list but only the grub prompt
[20:38] <thomas__> can anybody help me?
[20:38] <x_O> google is of no help
[20:38] <jrib> !grub | dexter_
[20:38] <tristanmike> mdm: just wanted to be sure, like I've said, haven't used Windows and Linux for years and last time I did, NTFS wasn't suggested. Thanks
[20:39] <jrib> dexter_: you can probably just reinstall it with supergrub, that will be the easiest thing to try
[20:39] <dexter_> jrib, where do i get supergrub apt install
[20:39] <dexter_> jrib, ???
[20:39] <x_O> Boo.
[20:39] <jrib> x_O: I see a hardy repo for the mozilla ppa.  What's wrong with that?
[20:39] <jrib> dexter_: see ubottu
[20:40] <mdm> tristanmike, I didnt say I suggested it, rather that it wasnt a fault of ntfs-3g.  If you want my suggestion format it to ext3 and forget about windows
[20:40] <B0BBY> SheevaPlug: what is your error ?
[20:40] <dexter_> jrib, ok all read the links you got me thanks
[20:40] <x_O> last time i checked that it was release canditates
[20:40] <thomas__> please, could someone help me?
[20:40] <SheevaPlug> I'm getting a make error 2 when compiling wifi drivers
[20:40] <jrib> x_O: are you sure?  "daily build"
[20:41] <x_O> hmm
[20:41] <x_O> Firefox 3.6?  o_O
[20:41] <tristanmike> mdm, LOL, I unfortunately must use windows for certain apps, believe me, it's not something I want to do, but I won't be spending much time there, I just want to make sure that my my music and movies will be available to me when I'm there
[20:41] <B0BBY> what's your kernel version?
[20:41] <didi> It seems an odd question, but is it possible to run a program by a user which hasn't a shell?
[20:42] <jrib> didi: with su -c I guess?
[20:42] <tristanmike> mdm: which is why the concern for the 4 gig FAT limitation (mostly for the video)
[20:42] <SheevaPlug> Bobby Linux ubuntu 2.6.30-rc6 #2 PREEMPT Wed May 20 05:42:04 MDT 2009 armv5tel GNU/Linux
[20:42] <dexter_> jrib, so i am confuzed what grub menu list should i be modfing
[20:42] <tuxlover> hey guys
[20:42] <mdm> didi, yes, in fact its preferable for many programs to run as a user whos shell is set to /bin/false
[20:42] <x_O> It's still a tar.gz
[20:42] <x_O> doesn't answer my question on how to install it.
[20:42] <jrib> x_O: no.  Read the wiki page that explains how to use ppa's
[20:43] <mats> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5086971&postcount=6
[20:43] <dexter_> jrib, is their one on the windows harddive i shoould know about or do i just modife the one on the linux harddive
[20:43] <mats> @thomas__
[20:43] <tuxlover> i have a question can anybody tell me someting about howto get the webcam sl-6825 to run
[20:43] <didi> jrib: Don't know. I will try it. Just to clarify I want to run a tor process but I want the user which will run it to have less to none privilege.
[20:43] <jrib> dexter_: you should just follow the instructions on the wiki about reinstalling grub
[20:43] <semitones> te_ which of these drivers is the display driver though? I don't see anything like "nv" or "nvidia"
[20:43] <rich_> !list
[20:44] <x_O> I see no such wiki.
[20:44] <mdm> !help | rich_
[20:44] <x_O> I am seeing three package files too. Only one is 42mb ... guessing I don't need the other two.
[20:44] <didi> mdm: Run it like jrib suggested?
[20:44] <B0BBY> guys does ubuntu repo has the kernel sources for  2.6.30-rc6?
[20:45] <jrib> x_O: the first link you clicked on that then linked you to the ppa
[20:45] <mdm> didi, yes or more precisly depends on the program.  Some have command switches to run as a user
[20:45] <jrib> !who | x_O
[20:46] <mats> liero
[20:46] <enterneo_> i manually installed grub from terminal (after grub install failed during jaunty install), it went find - http://pastebin.com/mf7358b3 , but on reboot I see no menu list, I am on ubuntu installer right now
[20:46] <keiichi> Hi, I've tried testing Grub2 as per the wiki page, but get a No Such Disk error, anyone able to help as I'd like to test this
[20:46] <mats> http://openlierox.sourceforge.net/
[20:47] <B0BBY> anyone?
[20:47] <didi> mdm: Tor have a config switch that says "drop root privileges and use this user instead". But I am actually not very comfortable believing in that.
[20:47] <B0BBY> looking for kernel sources  2.6.30-rc6.
[20:47] <jrib> !kernel > B0BBY
[20:48] <gourlet> ubuntu fr#
[20:48] <mdm> didi, its not very difficult to implement in a program, it it says it will run as a user, and ps shows it running as that user, well it is doing what it was set to do
[20:48] <gourlet> 3 ubuntu fr
[20:48] <gourlet> # ubuntu-fr
[20:48] <B0BBY> jrib: thanks.
[20:48] <irocksu> hi
[20:49] <OB1FoShoB> hey had anyone got flash working in firefox 3.5, i just have it installed in a folder running manually until repos get updated
[20:49] <gourlet> soory I shear going un Chat ubntu french
[20:49] <irocksu> i just want to make sure is the best current practise for dual boot: first install windows, then linux with grub bootloader?
[20:49] <jrib> irocksu: yep
[20:49] <irocksu> or did something change radically.
[20:49] <irocksu> ok
[20:50] <irocksu> one more thing: should i use 8.04 or 9.04?
[20:50] <B0BBY> jrib: I see. I guess I'm not sure how to retrieve a particular version.
[20:50] <dayo> 8.10
[20:50] <dayo> irocksu: 8.10
[20:50] <B0BBY> jrib: My friend and I are tyring to compile a wifi driver. which need the kernel sources....
[20:50] <irocksu> why?
[20:50] <B0BBY> jrib: header files and such.
[20:50] <didi> mdm: Well. I think that you're right. But don't you fell very uncomfortable running something as root?
[20:50] <jrib> B0BBY: you are using the default linux kernel?
[20:51] <jrib> s/linux/ubuntu
[20:51] <ersin> i dont my mouse in xorg.conf
[20:51] <ersin> i use sabily
[20:51] <dayo> irocksu: i use 8.04 on my servers. the only reason one should have for upgrading, is that it fixes an issue/bug. my reason for upgrading my laptop from 8.04 to 8.10 is that 8.10 gives me far less pulseaudio troubles.
[20:52] <gourlet> je veux aller sur le fprum francais mais je ne sais jamais comment aller sauf en passat par là et sa dérange du monde
[20:52] <mdm> didi, me personally no, but then again the stuff I run as root I know about, can read the source code and understand what it does.  I do with with mythtv so I can set proity threads, then again my myth frontends are more appliances then systems
[20:52] <B0BBY> jrib: it's a Sheeva Plug which report to uname -a with a ubuntu something something 2.6.30-rc6
[20:52] <irocksu> but why not 9.04?
[20:52] <irocksu> the current release
[20:52] <guntbert> gourlet: type "/join #ubuntu-fr" (without the ")
[20:52] <rski> !fr
[20:52] <B0BBY> jrib: it's on the MIPs arch.
[20:52] <jrib> B0BBY: ah...
[20:52] <irocksu> i understand bigger is better, but 8.10?
[20:52] <gourlet> thing you
[20:53] <dabide> hi, i have a ubuntu 7.10 virtual server, and i'm currently trying to set up my very first cronjob, but "crontab -e" or "sudo crontab -e" give me both: "crontab: command not found" - shouldn't crontab be some kind of systemtool, and be always available?
[20:53] <guntbert> gourlet: pas de quois
[20:53] <jrib> B0BBY: use the git instructions and checkout the right version, does that help?
[20:53] <dayo> irocksu: i have no reason to. my pulseaudio misbehaves maybe once a month, now. i'm ok with that.
[20:53] <didi> mdm: Hum. Well, for now I will try the jrib solution until I get around the idea.
[20:53] <didi> jrib: Thank you.
[20:53] <mdm> didi, implitly root is not evil, its just dangerous.  Especially in the hands of a semi-knowledgeable user.  Or quite literally "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing"
[20:53] <irocksu> hmmm... ok
[20:53] <Mike94287> Where are the gedit theme files placed?
[20:53] <B0BBY> jrib: that does help. I just have to now figure out all of that. :)
[20:54] <B0BBY> jrib: so when you say get out my own, you mean from kernel.org sources, right?
[20:54] <jrib> irocksu: if you need LTS use 8.04, otherwise use 9.04
[20:54] <didi> mdm: The all concept of running a process with super privileges just make me fell funny.
[20:54] <irocksu> jrib ok.
[20:54] <jrib> B0BBY: if your kernel is a vanilla kernel without the ubuntu patches, yeah
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: otherwise, it could be trouble...?
[20:55] <dayo> dabide: type    which crontab     what's the output?
[20:55] <jrib> B0BBY: I don't know
[20:55] <irocksu> thanks guys.
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: hehe, it's always a lot of fun compile random drivers, eh?
[20:55] <mdm> didi, I dont think it was jribs idea as much as he gave you the command to run a program as a different user.  I would call it jrib was correct.
[20:55] <rambo3> !best
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: that's for your help.
[20:55] <jrib> !wifi > B0BBY
[20:55] <jrib> B0BBY: that may have some hints about your card too
[20:55] <tumii> I need help installing these things: OpenGL, ALSA, GTK, GTKGLEXT, libxml2
[20:55] <B0BBY> jrib: cool. thanks for your help.
[20:55] <jrib> tumii: why?
[20:56] <tumii> jrib: how do I install them?
[20:56] <mdm> didi, some things HAVE to run as root, thigns that access hardware directly (xorg being most notable).  But not all things need root.
[20:56] <jrib> !software > tumii
[20:56] <ersin> i have no mouse in xorg.conf but my mouse is working, can anyone help me out? i want to configure more buttons
[20:56] <dabide> dayo: "which crontab" does not produce any output
[20:56] <jrib> tumii: that's how to install them
[20:56] <didi> mdm: I think I didn't quite understand what you meant about jrib "idea".
[20:56] <gourlet> sorry for my English
[20:56] <dayo> dabide: odd. looks like it's not installed.
[20:56] <KiRLi> hi, how can i format ufs my /media/disk1 on ubuntu?
[20:56] <dabide> dayo: can i get it via apt-get?
[20:57] <mdm> didi, ok, but pay attention to what jrib tells you, he is knowledgeable
[20:57] <irocksu> KiRLi: sudo cfdisk
[20:57]  * jrib claims no such thing
[20:57] <irocksu>  and the device
[20:57] <dayo> dabide: yes u can
[20:57] <didi> mdm: I know, I know. (although there are many people that do not like the idea of xorg been run as a privileged process)
[20:57] <gourlet> What is your Linux distribtion?
[20:57] <dayo> dabide: sudo aptitude install crontab
[20:57] <irocksu> sudo cfdisk /dev/sda2 or something... you need to figure out what hd it acutally is
[20:58] <irocksu> dont format the wrong one ;)
[20:58]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[20:58] <guntbert> gourlet: you english is better than my french :), this is the support channel for ubuntu
[20:58] <jrib> !away > D3f0
[20:58] <mdm> didi, like I said, root isnt dangerous any more then a rifle is.  It is how it is used (I would say misused) that is.
[20:58] <KiRLi> irocksu, fatal error
[20:58] <irocksu> KiRLi: why do you want to format your disk?
[20:58] <KiRLi> scond hdd, backup
[20:59] <irocksu> what device is your hd?
[20:59] <epzt> my raid is broken and can't start in degrade mode
[20:59] <gourlet> guntbert: sorry I don't enderstant and Yes this chat is for Ubuntu
[20:59] <KiRLi> scond=second
[20:59] <didi> mdm: I personally would say that a rifle is *always* dangerous. But let not visit that place.
[20:59] <semitones> hey everyone -- how do I find out which graphics driver I'm using? There seems to be a problem
[20:59] <irocksu> then try /dev/sda1
[20:59] <irocksu> wait... not sure
[20:59] <dabide> dayo: thx, got it working - bye!
[20:59] <justinA> can someone please send me the hardy default source.list file
[20:59] <keiichi> anyone able to help with chainloading grub2?
[20:59] <wildc4rd> whats my best bet software wise for tracking resource use of PC's remotely?
[21:00] <irocksu> could you check /etc/fstab?
[21:00] <KiRLi> try, mount umount device ?
[21:00] <justinA> or a link with the exact list of default sources
[21:00] <funkja> Will my Ubuntu automatically update my firefox to 3.5 now that it's released or will I have to do it myself?
[21:00] <irocksu> unmount it
[21:00] <guntbert> gourlet: ubuntu support here, ubuntu chat -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <jrib> !ff35 | funkja
[21:00] <epzt> how can I repair my raid from intramfs console ?
[21:01] <ace> Does anyone know a good software for converting video?
[21:01] <justinA> can someone send me the hardy default source.list file
[21:01] <funkja> jrib: That's not quite up to date.
[21:01] <irocksu> KiRLi what does fstab tell you
[21:02] <justinA> or a link to the list of sources
[21:02] <jrib> funkja: why do you say that?
[21:02] <KaiZ> hi, does anyone know how to update firefox 3.0 to 3.5 on ubuntu 9.04?
[21:02] <jrib> !ff35 | KaiZ
[21:03] <funkja> jrib: nvm. I understand - the beta is referring to ubuntu specific packages - not ff itself.
[21:03] <jrib> funkja: right
[21:03] <funkja> thanks.
[21:03] <KiRLi> irocksu, I tried but did linux file system, i want to ufs file systems
[21:03] <abbazabba> i have a silly question.. i'm on 8.04, and usually i am able to enable my videocard hardware driver, which then breaks my system bringing me back to a menu that lets me select nv and my monitor.. which lets me raise the resolution. now, i don't have anything in my hardware driver section, and when i check out xorg.conf it has what i want in it.. i'm still stuck at 800x600 though.. any ideas? i'm thinking maybe erase xorg.conf
[21:03] <barbarella> ace:mencoder
[21:03] <ace> barbarella: Thank you!
[21:04] <irocksu> KiRLi: you want what?
[21:04] <derek6711> the update informantion is outdates. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Can some one help me
[21:04] <SerenityKill3r> anybody know a good OGG Vorbis DAP?
[21:04] <SerenityKill3r> cheap preferably
[21:05] <irocksu> ufs never heard of it.
[21:05] <te_> abbazabba: Yes. If you're using opensource driver, you can rm xorg.conf
[21:05] <kenichi_> why, when i start screen on jaunty, does it resize my terminal to 80 cols?
[21:05] <threethirty> In my conky config im catting a text file (its a todo list) but i cant get it to show more than 10 lines, here is my current config http://linuxcranks.pastebin.com/m2bd1910f anyone have any ideas?
[21:06] <abbazabba> te_: i am not sure if i'm using an opensource driver, i am using "nv".. and i don't want to remove it, i just want to bring it back to zero so i could set my own options (which are the options it already has in it..)
[21:06] <irocksu> you need to format your drive and then create a new file syste with mkfs
[21:06] <te_> abbazabba: nv is the opensource driver
[21:06] <ace> barbarella: How do you use Mencoder?
[21:06] <tw3akUrb0x> hello
[21:06] <derek6711> hi
[21:07] <abbazabba> te_: so just delete it?
[21:07] <te_> abbazabba: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:07] <te_> abbazabba: Or mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf~
[21:07] <bo7amny> how can i open a program or a folder from the terminal and set the size and the position of the window ?
[21:08] <uncola> Help.. anyone know a guide that tells you how to update to the newest nvidia driver?
[21:08] <epzt> someone to help repairing a broken raid
[21:08] <te_> bo7amny: Can you restate your question?
[21:08] <Titan8990_> !nvidia | uncola
[21:08] <derek6711> te_, you could use sudo mv because it could require admin permissions
[21:08] <derek6711> te_, by the way, im back =)
[21:09] <abbazabba> te_: wish me luck
[21:09] <theholyduck> hmm, just having fglrx installed (without even using it) is making my system lock up
[21:09] <ace> Anyone know of an EASY video converter
[21:09] <te_> derek6711: derek6711 Yes, you are correct.
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> ace:  winff, avidumex
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> !find avid
[21:09] <theholyduck> ace, easy is just another way of saying its rubbish and the audio will be out of sync
[21:09] <epzt> ace: ffmpeg
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> i never can spell avidmux right
[21:09] <derek6711> te_, could very well be correct
[21:09] <Dr_Willis> winff is very handy.
[21:10] <edbian> Dr_Willis: avidemux* he he
[21:10] <ace> Dr_Willis: Thank you
[21:10] <derek6711> te_, not situated with ubuntu yet but google does wonders =)
[21:10] <threethirty> ace: media convert  is  a gui  for ffmpeg
[21:10] <te_> derek6711: Oh yes, google is your friend.
[21:10] <bo7amny> ex : firefox -size 800 600 -pos 100 100
[21:10] <threethirty> In my conky config im catting a text file (its a todo list) but i cant get it to show more than 10 lines, here is my current config http://linuxcranks.pastebin.com/m2bd1910f anyone have any ideas?
[21:10] <te_> derek6711: BTW, there's also google.com/linux
[21:11] <derek6711> te_, especially since there are so many people that helped develop ubuntu and linux it is like free help desk
[21:11] <te_> derek6711: Yep...
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> threethirty:  check the conky homepage/configs - they got examples of doing that stuff..  you may need to set the  min/max sizes of the 'conky' window manually
[21:11] <tw3akUrb0x> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208475/ I'm building a customized kernel , everything is working however I have a few questions........... in my default boot there is no comments in "dmesg" about MTRR or PAT are these parts of the kernel needed? or can they be safely removed from my next build?
[21:11] <derek6711> te_. i didnt know that
[21:11] <edbian> derek6711: Not to mention the best help desk around! :)
[21:11] <didi> jrib: If I switch the shell from /bin/bash to /bin/false I cannot execute the su -c command. Another idea?
[21:11] <bo7amny> te_, ex : firefox -size 800 600 -pos 100 100
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> threethirty:  my conky configs --> http://drop.io/dr_willis
[21:11] <threethirty> Dr_Willis: ty
[21:11] <derek6711> edbian. dont think too high of yourself
[21:11] <Dr_Willis> threethirty:  i do a similer thing with log files.
[21:11] <edbian> derek6711: ha ha ha
[21:12] <n3vermind> join #polska
[21:12] <edbian> derek6711: I was talking about everybody else!
[21:12] <edbian> lol
[21:12] <derek6711> edbian, here is a nice test of your abundance of knowledge
[21:12] <NoiseEee> any reason that apache wouldn't prompt me for a login/pass once i've added .htaccess and .htpasswd to the relevant places?   anything i need to adjust on the default ubuntu server installation?
[21:12] <te_> bo7amny: What was your original question?
[21:12] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  My pulseaudio is sending a lot of data over the network.  How do I see which streams make up that traffic?
[21:12] <edbian> NoiseEee: Did you restart apache?  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart  ??
[21:12] <uncola> that guide you linked me to is what caused me problems in the first place :(
[21:12] <derek6711> edbian, i have a repository that the update manager uses and it wasnt updated with the downloads
[21:12] <derek6711> edbian, now my updater is yelling at me
[21:12] <te_> NoiseEee: did you restart the server?
[21:13] <edbian> derek6711: Wasn't updated with the downloads?  What do you mean?
[21:13] <derek6711> te_, so it is just http://www.google.com/linux ?
[21:13] <te_> derek6711: Yes.
[21:13] <derek6711> edbian, it didnt update for some reason
[21:13] <comicinker>  jonaskoelker: watch -n 1 "netstat -tupen"
[21:14] <edbian> derek6711: sudo apt-get update ??
[21:14] <NoiseEee> te_, edbian:  yep restarted apache
[21:14] <myk_robinson> have any of you installed Firefox 3.5 yet, and if so, are your links in the "Awesome Bar" blue all of a sudden??
[21:14] <jonaskoelker> comicinker: and look for what?
[21:14] <derek6711> edbian, the update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer available. Can some one help me
[21:14] <clusty> hey
[21:14] <derek6711> edbian, first message i posted
[21:14] <jonaskoelker> comicinker: the only program names I see are chromium-brow (there's a missing "ser") and ssh, none of which (apparently) play sound
[21:14] <edbian> derek6711: Perhaps the repo is down?  or (more possibly) "no longer available"
[21:15] <derek6711> te_, thanks
[21:15] <te_> derek6711: NP
[21:15] <derek6711> edbian, but my computer updated, it just didnt update the system information
[21:15] <edbian> derek6711: That is very strange.  Did you have more than 1 package manager running ??
[21:15] <clusty> i am having a rather strange problem with my ubuntu: I changed some bios settings (like enabling AHCI) and now grub is not working no more: error 22
[21:16] <te_> clusty: Must have re-oreder the drives.
[21:16] <L3dPlatedLinux> I went ahead and made another user account for my wife and out it in the admin group so i thought and all but she doesnt have wifi access and she cant edit the user and groups accounts either how would i fix this
[21:16] <derek6711> edbian, i may have had the update manager and spm
[21:16] <threethirty> Dr_Willis: my old conky config fit the whole screen and i just removed some of the sections, shouldnt the window size still be the same (and how are you starting multiple conkies?)
[21:16] <clusty> i boot the live cd mount the partition do a chroot, find /boot/grub/stage1 but it cannot find anything
[21:16] <derek6711> edbian, does it matter?
[21:17] <clusty> te_: but should my stuff not be there?
[21:17] <clusty> te_: stuff=stage1
[21:17] <comicinker> jonaskoelker: just a start. maybe you can identify the connected IP addresses and the average amount of tcp packats related to it... it was a shot into the dark...
[21:17] <edbian> derek6711: You're not supposed to be able to do anything in any of them if more than one is open.  That way it can keep track.  (How would it keep track if multiple apps were changing things all at once).
[21:17] <edbian> derek6711: Usually it yells at you if you try.
[21:17] <te_> clusty: probably still there just not designated as was before.
[21:18] <derek6711> edbian, i think i just had it open while i was updating
[21:18] <clusty> te_: so whats the fix? (possibly without a full ubuntu reinstall)
[21:18] <NoiseEee> is there a specific module i should be enabling for Apache to respect .htaccess restrictions in Ubuntu server?
[21:18] <edbian> derek6711: When you say it's "yelling at you" what is it saying??
[21:18] <te_> clusty: Boot a liveCD and do fdisk -l  and see what is different.
[21:18] <derek6711> edbian, here are the problems
[21:18] <derek6711> edbian, GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4874D3686E80C6B7Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/deb-src/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[21:18] <derek6711> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[21:18] <derek6711> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/jaunty/binary-i386/Packages  404 Not Found
[21:18] <derek6711> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:18] <FloodBot2> derek6711: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:19] <clusty> te_: will reinstall the whole bloody sys. will be faster. hope I won'y have to be back :D
[21:19] <derek6711> edbian, so it seems to be the links or something
[21:20] <edbian> derek6711: "failed to fetch" means that it cannot get in contact with the server.  Remove them from your sources temporarily and try to update
[21:20] <edbian> derek6711: update = "reload" and the GUI's call it.
[21:20] <derek6711> edbian, i can still update it just when i check for updates
[21:21] <NoiseEee> wtf
[21:21] <edbian> derek6711: Yeah.  I think those repos are down.  Try removing them from your software sources and see if the problem persists.
[21:21] <derek6711> edbian, how will i go about this
[21:21] <te_> clusty:  why not just go into the bios and change it back the way it was?
[21:22] <bucky> NoiseEee: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialApacheAddingLoginSiteProtection.html
[21:22] <edbian> derek6711: System -> Admin -> software sources
[21:22] <clusty> te_: did not do the trick :D
[21:22] <te_> clusty: Oh
[21:22] <edbian> derek6711: Go to the third party tab and uncheck them.
[21:23] <mickster04> anyione not being served?
[21:23] <mickster04> :p
[21:23] <te_> clusty: if you can get the drives back in the order they were, it will boot again
[21:24] <derek6711> edbian, it is updating
[21:25] <pronoy_> i seem to be suddenly having trouble with my flash plugin ...how to fix this...
[21:25] <wolter> hi
[21:25] <derek6711> hi
[21:25] <wolter> why is my update manager crashing my sound??
[21:25] <mickster04> hi
[21:25] <derek6711> it could be updating your sound
[21:25] <mickster04> wolter what are you doing other than updating?
[21:25] <edbian> derek6711: Hows it going?
[21:26] <edbian> derek6711: Errors?
[21:26] <pronoy_> i seem to be suddenly having trouble with my flash plugin ...how to fix this...
[21:26] <derek6711> edbian, it opened the update manager and is updating
[21:26] <wolter> mickster04, was listening to music with banshee
[21:26] <bucky> pronoy enable all your repos and install adobe-flashplugin
[21:26] <edbian> derek6711: No errors?
[21:26] <mickster04> wolter, it may have also been updating banshee?
[21:26] <gnubie> edbian;  ty
[21:26] <pronoy_> bucky its to its newest version..
[21:26] <mickster04> wolter, or does it happen everytime
[21:26] <wolter> nah..
[21:26] <wolter> everytime
[21:26] <derek6711> edbian, i think it was just 1 sourve
[21:26] <wolter> I made myself a script to fix sound
[21:27] <derek6711> edbian, source*
[21:27] <wolter> and when I run it update manager crashes
[21:27] <wolter> so its one or the other
[21:27] <mickster04> wolter so how does it break
[21:27] <bucky> pronoy what kind of video chip/card do you have
[21:27] <wolter> mickster04, the update manager?
[21:27] <mickster04> wolter, oh so you've fixed it
[21:27] <clusty> te_: reinstalling. luckily i have the home on a diff partition so i can just format / and put new one
[21:27] <wolter> mickster04, no
[21:27] <mickster04> wolter, no the sound, does the device dissappear?
[21:27] <wolter> mickster04, fixing it would be making it not happen again
[21:27] <edbian> derek6711: Those repos aren't necessarily down.  Perhaps it was just a typo.  Why did you add them??
[21:28] <mickster04> wolter, but to have a script fix it, you should know what the problem is?
[21:28] <bucky> banshee sucks
[21:28] <pronoy_> bucky vga is 8600gt other than that sound is onboard and the trouble i am having has come up after certain kernel updates ...
[21:28] <wolter> mickster04, when i run the sound tests on the sound control panel it tells me that the device is currently in use by some other application
[21:28] <wolter> mickster04, yes, kindof...
[21:28] <wolter> mickster04, now that the update manager finished sound works again
[21:28] <derek6711> edbian, i didnt add any
[21:28] <derek6711> edbian, it was only one
[21:29] <mickster04> wolter, then i guess it does do sumat to the sound?
[21:29] <jg_> hi
[21:29] <derek6711> edbian, it was the same thing but 3 errors
[21:29] <jg_> i need help
[21:29] <TheNewGuy> howdy, are there games in the repository?
[21:29] <jg_> I Need HELp!
[21:29] <edbian> derek6711: What repo had errors?
[21:29] <tmavy> hi everyone
[21:29] <pronoy_> TheNewGuy yeah tons
[21:29] <jacatone> Does anyone know how to add themes to Xubuntu 9.04?
[21:29] <te_> wolter: is firefox running?
[21:29] <mickster04> !ask | jg_
[21:29] <derek6711> TheNewGuy, there is in spm
[21:29] <wolter> te_, now it is, but firefox remains neutral to the problem
[21:29] <jg_> my youtube dosent work
[21:29] <TheNewGuy> are they listed in the synaptic manager?
[21:29] <derek6711> edbian, http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/http://ppa.launchpad.net/banshee-team/ppa/ubuntu/binary-i386/Packages
[21:29] <rickest> jg_: "doesn't work" is as useful as "I need help"
[21:30] <derek6711> TheNewGuy, yep
[21:30] <pronoy> !flash | jg_
[21:30] <mickster04> jg_ have you installed flash non-free
[21:30] <wolter> mickster04, what is sumat?
[21:30] <jg_> it just shows a black page
[21:30] <mickster04> wolter, sorry sumat = something in my accent
[21:30] <edbian> derek6711: You didn't add that?
[21:30] <clusty> jg_: you need FLASH
[21:30] <TheNewGuy> cool.  I assume that if we get something in the repository we can assume it is clean and does not have viruses?
[21:30] <mickster04> wolter apologies
[21:30] <te_> wolter: lsof
[21:30] <pronoy> jg_: dude check the link you got from the bot
[21:30] <jg_> ok
[21:30] <derek6711> edbian, nope
[21:30] <jg_> tell me how
[21:30] <derek6711> edbian, i dont know how to add em
[21:30] <pronoy> bucky...any ideas or should i repost
[21:30] <wolter> well the problem is fixed now
[21:30] <jg_> is ubottu a robot
[21:30] <edbian> strange
[21:30] <te_> wolter: lsof | grep dsp
[21:30] <clusty> jg_: sudo apt-get install flash-non-free
[21:31] <wolter> it aparently happens when update manager starts installing applications
[21:31] <edbian> derek6711: It was under 3rd party apps?
[21:31] <clusty> jg_: inside a terminal
[21:31] <derek6711> edbian, could have been put in with an app
[21:31] <jg_> ok
[21:31] <pronoy> jg_: just a bot...a robot is hardware linked
[21:31] <derek6711> edbian, ya
[21:31] <jg_> il try now
[21:31] <wolter> gconf-hel  7056           wolter  mem       REG                8,6    81496 1118724 /usr/lib/libspeexdsp.so.1.5.0
[21:31] <wolter> te_,
[21:31] <jg_> whats the password
[21:31] <wolter> te_, (sound works again and firefox is no longer open)
[21:31] <edbian> ummm
[21:31] <derek6711> clusty, thank you
[21:31] <edbian> odd
[21:31] <derek6711> clusty, i needed that command
[21:31] <pronoy> yo ! anyone having trouble lately with the flash plugin ? seems to be in all browsers
[21:31] <TheNewGuy> sorry, was that a dumb question?
[21:32] <clusty> derek6711: what for? :D
[21:32] <te_> wolter: That's interesting.
[21:32] <clusty> ohh ok :D
[21:32] <mickster04> jg_ password
[21:32] <pronoy> TheNewGuy the games one ? nope
[21:32] <jg_> ok
[21:32] <mickster04> pronoy i have youtube sorta working in ff on eeebuntu
[21:32] <derek6711> clusty, my flash sucks and wont work right
[21:32] <clusty> derek6711: hope is correct the package name that is
[21:32] <mickster04> jg_ sorry, what password*
[21:32] <wolter> te_, yeah
[21:32] <jg_> tehers writetn this
[21:32] <jg_> hello
[21:32] <jg_>  sudo apt-get install flash-non-free
[21:32] <clusty> jg_: man, you set up that password?
[21:32] <TheNewGuy> No, about can I assume that the files in the repository are clean and have not viruses or trojens?
[21:32] <jg_> ups
[21:32] <derek6711> clusty, it is different from mine
[21:32] <FloodBot2> jg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:32] <pronoy> mickster04 my flash video displays a huge play button in a circle and unless clicked it doesn't load automatically
[21:32] <jg_> jg@jg-desktop:~$  sudo apt-get install flash-non-free
[21:32] <jg_> [sudo] password for jg:
[21:32] <jg_> Sorry, try again.
[21:32] <jg_> [sudo] password for jg:
[21:32] <jg_> Reading package lists... Done
[21:33] <wolter> te_, i am 100% sure that the problem is caused when update manager locks the system to install the downloaded updates
[21:33] <pronoy> !pastebin | jg_
[21:33] <clusty> ...and there goes the young padwan :D
[21:33] <mickster04> pronoy, thats supposed to e like that, you have to click to start the video?
[21:33] <jg_> Hello
[21:33] <jg_> help me plz
[21:33] <mickster04> jg_ e patient
[21:34] <mickster04> jg_ be patient*
[21:34] <clusty> fingers crossed... doing the reboot
[21:34] <pronoy> mickster04: yeah before kernel 2.7.27-14 update everything was cool and it used to load automatically and it sure isn't supposed to act like that
[21:34] <pronoy> jg_ dude what's the problem ?
[21:34] <mickster04> pronoy ah ok
[21:34] <jg_> my youtube dosent work
[21:34] <mickster04> pronoy well i always had to start it myself
[21:34] <pronoy> jg_: did you do what was asked to you in the terminal ?
[21:34] <ramfist> I am having trouble getting my install of ubuntu to work, booting from cd or hard drive keeps getting me to BusyBox 1.10.2 what should i be doing differntly during install/ startup?
[21:34] <jg_> pronoy
[21:35] <jg_> can we pm
[21:35] <mickster04> pronoy he did
[21:35] <pronoy> jg_ cool
[21:35] <TheNewGuy> JG, unload flash and then reload the adobi flash.  not the three one.  and no, I don't know how to do it well enough to tell you.
[21:35] <jg_> can we private message
[21:35] <mickster04> !pm
[21:35] <TwoToneSpirit> ramfist:  live cd?  USB stick?
[21:35] <mickster04> just as a hint
[21:35] <ramfist> live cd
[21:36] <TheNewGuy> anyone have a suggestion for a good car game?  rally?
[21:36] <comicinker> TheNewGuy: you decide if you trust a software repository. technically, a repository can blow your system, install viruses and rootkits. so watch out which repositories you add to your system
[21:36] <TheNewGuy> OH!
[21:36] <TheNewGuy> Really!  It thought it was monitored by someone.. or a group.
[21:37] <ramfist> I dung thru the formus at their  support site, thre seems to be similar  problems with 8  but i am running 9.04
[21:37] <ramfist> oh wow, my spelling is terrible
[21:37] <pronoy> mickster04 he's on pm wimme...doesn't have his repo enabled anyways...so what bout the flash thing  ? any ideas
[21:37] <TheNewGuy> Chit man... I need too re think this.
[21:37] <mickster04> pronoy, ermmm...i had just installed the normal nonfree flash an it worked with eeebuntu
[21:37] <comicinker> TheNewGuy: well, the default repositories are  trustfull
[21:38] <pronoy> TheNewGuy dude google for top 25 linux games you'll get one
[21:38] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: Well, there's only so much certainty with any repository / group. even the original authors of software could do something bad, and I'm not sure everything would be caught.
[21:38] <TheNewGuy> thats the 4 basic ones.  the one that come active in umbuto 9.04.  right?
[21:38] <pronoy> mickster04 ah eeebuntu don't know bout that...running intrepid here DAMN KERNEL UPDATE !!
[21:38] <mickster04> pronoy ah, what u using (pcwise)
[21:39] <TheNewGuy> OK, good to know.  I am new to linux... but after a week, I love it.
[21:39] <bluef00t> could anyone point me to how to write a shell script that automatically feeds in the password for a command that asks for one.
[21:39] <mickster04> pronoy although desktop edition of 9.04 worked seamlessly on my pc so it mght have somat to do with hardware too
[21:39] <edbian> TheNewGuy: It's gets better and better
[21:39] <pronoy> mickster04 well on a 2.7 C2D 2 gig ram and 8600gt and onboard sound "and i didn't have problems before the kernel fix"
[21:39] <mickster04> bluef00t, that would nullify all security on ur oc/laptop
[21:40] <TheNewGuy> Yea, I can see that in a few years it could go main stream.
[21:40] <mickster04> pronoy ah, no eeebuntu would be pointless for you
[21:40] <Cynner> Download new music, films, games and lot of more, check it - http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844
[21:40] <pronoy> Pici you around ?
[21:40] <bluef00t> mickster04, yes, kind of, but i am annoyed by entering the same command and then root password again and again. Any way around?
[21:40] <mickster04> pronoy i would suggest updating to the new ubuntu as it worked from scratch on my botch-job pc
[21:41] <comicinker> TheNewGuy: that's what they said 10 years ago ;)
[21:41] <edbian> bluef00t: In the GUI you can have it save the password for the session
[21:41] <pronoy> mickster04 well too many bugs on jaunty i am waiting for karmic ..
[21:41] <Radtoo> bluef00t: one simple trick to keep a root shell open is to run screen first.
[21:41] <x4mer> hi, all
[21:41] <mickster04> bluef00t, if your using terminal it should keep the sudo for about 15mins no?
[21:41] <cicada> Hi
[21:41] <pronoy> TheNewGuy: mainstream ?
[21:41] <red-lichtie> One thing that gets on my nerves regarding Ubuntu is that after a kernel update  I am forced to 1) reinstall NVIDIA driver (NVIDIA-blabla.run), reinstall omnibook module & download/recompile the kernel just to get my MemoryStick support to work again. Any ideas on how to get this to happen automatically when there is a kernel update ?
[21:41] <mickster04> pronoy, bugs? i havent had one yet?
[21:41] <pisecx> !ff3.5
[21:41] <pisecx> =(
[21:41] <pronoy> mickster04 were you around when it launched ?
[21:42] <mickster04> pronoy ah no
[21:42] <te_> red-lichtie: Get everything from the package-manager.
[21:42] <root> hello everyone
[21:42] <pronoy> pisecx what is this deal with ff3.5 anyways ? why the hype ?
[21:42] <mickster04> ]hi root
[21:42] <TheNewGuy> LOL.... yea.. things more slowly.   the push has been to get the major features working, the detailed ease of use and integration really take a lot of programing to get very very smooth... so smooth that grandma can use it.  That is going to take some time.
[21:42] <mickster04> pronoy on windoze it is blitz fast in comparison
[21:42] <red-lichtie> te_ if I only knew the locations to add I would
[21:42] <te_> red-lichtie: and / or use  open source
[21:42] <pronoy> mickster04 you should have seen the shit we were sailing in ...every new dude came in and yelped for help
[21:42] <pronoy> mickster04 watch this
[21:42] <mickster04> pronoy lol
[21:42] <bluef00t> yes...but i want to automate the whole thing..cause my internet goes down again and again and i need to do sudo pon provider after 20 mins. I just want to automate this.
[21:42] <Radtoo> red-lichtie: yes, thats the pain with external modules. allmost everyone has to. but the memorystick I can't understand, it should be supported by the kernel itself, no?
[21:43] <cicada> I'm having trouble running the demo for X2 on Jaunty that I downloaded here: http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/info.php?id=23&
[21:43] <x4mer> i have a question and i haven't found the answer on google: are iso images from ubuntu testing page updated dayly or only on milestones such as alpha2/3/beta/rc ?
[21:43] <pronoy> HEY GUYS WINDOWS SUCKS RIGHT ? people who agree say aye !
[21:43] <cicada> aye
[21:43] <mickster04> aye
[21:43] <te_> !nvidia | red-lichtie
[21:43] <red-lichtie> te_: omnibook IS opensource + MemoryStick is simply no compiled as a module in the Ubuntu releases :/
[21:43] <TheNewGuy> wow, I just read what I wrote... Honest, I am not drunk.
[21:43] <bluef00t> aye
[21:43] <bluef00t> mickster04, yes...but i want to automate the whole thing..cause my internet goes down again and again and i need to do sudo pon provider after 20 mins. I just want to automate this.
[21:43] <TheNewGuy> eye.... I poked my eye using windows.
[21:43] <Radtoo> x4mer: snapshots. the thing thats updated more frequently is the repository of installable packages.
[21:44] <pronoy> mickster04 see and if an op were around you'd find a !ot with my name on it
[21:44] <mickster04> i was about to:P
[21:44] <coleys> Radtoo: Ahoy =D ///
[21:44] <pronoy> mickster04 huh :D
[21:44] <cicada> Anyone have an issue trying to run demo games from Linux Publishing?
[21:44] <mickster04> pronoy, i was gona ot! you till i realised you were right
[21:44] <pronoy> mickster04 anyways im still stuck with this flash thingy
[21:45] <pronoy> mickster04 haaww ! betrayel
[21:45] <te_> TheNewGuy: I might agree with you if what you are saying that being restricted to MS would be similar to getting poked in they eye with a sharp stick. :)
[21:45] <threethirty>    /wc
[21:45] <TheNewGuy> is there a good "visual C" enviroment free ware?  I want to try to learn how to program c.  I used to do basic years ago.
[21:45] <ali1234> why does my display keep doing this? : http://imagebin.org/54330 - using nvidia driver and compiz. it started happening after todays updates
[21:46] <jg> HI again
[21:46] <jg> need help from the guy pm'ing me before
[21:46] <pronoy> TheNewGuy try ur hand on the command line...it is beautiful :) you'll be asking for a lot of command line stuff after you know how powerful it really is
[21:46] <ali1234> it happens about every 10 minutes, and switching to console and back makes it go away... for another 10 minutes
[21:46] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: theres a lot of IDE for C
[21:46] <mickster04> pronoy,, i had some input about ubuntu restricted extra's
[21:46] <dock> code::blocks is nice
[21:46] <jg> plz help man
[21:46] <mickster04> thenewguy try c++ with codeblocks
[21:46] <cicada> Anyone know of a channel where people are doing more than bs?
[21:47] <jg> i need help plz anyone
[21:47]  * red-lichtie completes complete kernel download/recompile just for memstick (+ pro) modules, not exactly a wonderful user experience
[21:47] <coleys> !question | jg
[21:47] <TheNewGuy> pronoy, is there a primer or something to give me the basics.  I really am the new guy.
[21:47] <jg> coleys
[21:47] <jg> can u pm me
[21:47] <dock> anyway i have a wierd problem
[21:47] <TheNewGuy> rad
[21:47] <danbhfive> Is anyone able to use the "Pictures folder" screensaver without problem, ie, with it working and without a memory leak (on 9.04)?
[21:47] <mickster04> cicada pardon?
[21:47] <TheNewGuy> Radtoo, what is IDE?
[21:47] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: you can use specialized editors like code::blocks, multipurpose ide like anjuta / kdevelop / eclipse / netbeans, or even text editors like vim or emacs (they can do a lot for you)
[21:47] <pronoy> yo ! i thought you went away
[21:47] <bucky> cicada: #debian
[21:47] <coleys> jg: Just ask your question =)
[21:47] <jg> ok
[21:47] <pronoy> yo ! i thought you went away jg
[21:47] <coleys> jg: someone else might be having the same problem.
[21:47] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: integrated development environment
[21:47] <red-lichtie> Add to that the fact that my BT won't work without the omnibook module, makes every kernel update nightmare
[21:47] <TimX4209> hello
[21:48] <jg> its ok
[21:48] <dock> my tab key is broken so i xmodmaped it to capslock, sure i can tab again but i cant alt tab which is rather crucial for me
[21:48] <jg> im pming with pronoy
[21:48] <pronoy> yey ! i am famous !!
[21:48] <TimX4209> can we asked questions about tiny core linux here
[21:48] <cicada> No one is helping me.. And it appears that this is more or less a hangout.  I'm looking for people that actually want to help out.  Is there a channel for that?  I'm having problems trying to run a demo on Jaunty.
[21:48] <coleys> jg: pronoy Should allow other people to see your solution, if they have the same problem =P.
[21:48] <TheNewGuy> I check it out.
[21:48] <rohtie> hey everyone! Does anyone know how i can configure my trust tablet?
[21:48] <pedestrianentra1> id like to grab all link titles of my website and put them in a file.... Ive looked at man wget and can't figure out how. Any ideas?
[21:48] <guntbert> !patience | cicada
[21:49] <mickster04> cicada, if you hadn't noticed theres lots of people helping other people out, be patient, mayb i can help
[21:49] <pronoy> coleys how many have the problem of not knowing how to enable the repos...
[21:49] <bucky> TimX4209: isn't anyone in #tinycorelinux ?
[21:49] <dock> pede: check out download them all plugin for firefox
[21:49] <coleys> pronoy: Many... ?
[21:49] <cicada> sorry..
[21:49] <Radtoo> TheNewGuy: Meaning code editor, compiler, debugger, documentation, ... yadda yadda all combined in or controlled by one program.
[21:49] <Adola> I just did an update, and when I restated, ALSA isn't installed, or so it seems.
[21:49] <TimX4209> they dont talk their
[21:49] <pronoy> coleys cool bring it here
[21:49] <Adola> "Alsamixer" doesn't work in terminal.
[21:49] <Adola> And my sound isn't working.
[21:49] <edbian> cicada: How is it not working?  What have you tried to do?
[21:49] <mickster04> cicada, whats the matter  then?
[21:49] <mickster04> LD
[21:49] <coleys> Adola: alsamixer (withoutcaps)
[21:50] <Adola> coleys: Yeah, I did.
[21:50] <mickster04> adola you havent muted it have you:P
[21:50] <TimX4209> bucky no one talks in tinycorelinux chat
[21:50] <TheNewGuy> Last question.  I have compez (compiz.. whatever) and I can flip my chart upside down, but is there a way to then mirror it? or flip it right to left (or left to right)  ?
[21:50] <pronoy> is there a guide as to how to enable the repos for noobs ?
[21:50] <Adola> mickster04: No, and not only that, I had to reinstall an ethernet driver too.
[21:50] <mickster04> TimX4209, what is the problem
[21:50] <cicada> I get this warning error when running the X2 game demo from Linux Publishing..I'll post it in a sec..
[21:50] <pronoy> or is ubottu loaded with one ?
[21:50] <TheNewGuy> When I say chart, I mean screen.
[21:50] <uofm49426>  (ntfs-config:7198): WARNING **: /media/windows contains an invalid caracter.
[21:50] <uofm49426> you must choose a name, not a directory.
[21:50] <a1fa> hello.. i dont have access to ubuntu forums.. can anyone download http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=94477&d=1227872015 and pastebin it for me, please?
[21:50] <mickster04> adola what did you do?
[21:50] <TimX4209> i want to changes the windows manager to icewm
[21:50] <uofm49426> help
[21:50] <rohtie> Anyone know how i configure my trust tablet?
[21:50] <TimX4209> and i want to put some programs on a usb
[21:50] <edbian> TheNewGuy: ctrl + alt + button one to hold the "screen"
[21:50] <TheNewGuy> I am using this is a charting program.
[21:50] <guntbert> !repos | pronoy
[21:50] <coleys> Adola: sudo apt-get install alsa-libs
[21:50] <TimX4209> and connect to my ahteros wifi 5007
[21:50] <Adola> mickster04: I just did an update
[21:51] <dock> wow the flood in here
[21:51] <pronoy> guntbert: thanks a lot mate....
[21:51] <TheNewGuy> what do you mean hold the screen?
[21:51] <pronoy> !repos | jg
[21:51] <edbian> TheNewGuy: Also you have a 2 sided plane because you only have 2 desktops.  If you add 2 more (4 total) You'll have a square
[21:51] <guntbert> pronoy: :)
[21:51] <cicada> Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:51] <enterneo_> I had no menu.lst in my /boot/grub , so I am writing one manually for my new jaunty install, Grub complains '
[21:51] <pronoy> edbian you mean a cube
[21:51] <edbian> TheNewGuy: Just try it: ctrl + alt + left click
[21:51] <Adola> coleys: E: Couldn't find package alsa-libs
[21:51] <a1fa> hello.. i dont have access to ubuntu forums.. can anyone download http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=94477&d=1227872015 and pastebin it for me, please?
[21:51] <coleys> Adola: Have you sudo apt-get update
[21:51] <dock> no one here knows about xev/xevmodmap
[21:51] <edbian> pronoy: TheNewGuy dube*
[21:51] <edbian> cube*
[21:51] <Adola> coleys: I'll do it again.
[21:51] <rohtie> >_>
[21:52] <mickster04> cicada, try to use full nicks too i see when you've written then
[21:52] <edbian> haha
[21:52] <coleys> Adola: if so, try... sudo apt-get install alsa-lib
[21:52] <coleys> =P
[21:52] <enterneo_> I had no menu.lst in my /boot/grub , so I am writing one manually for my new jaunty install, Grub complains 'no such partition', I am wondering if someone could see my menu option and correct it?
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> red-lichtie, i was researching your kernel modules problem (i initially though I remembered an application that would automatically rebuild external modules - but I can't find it, so I guess i remember incorrectly), I haven't found a solution yet that i feel comfortable implementing but this person did some work re-nvidia drivers, and i imagine it could be modified to suite (personally i'm don't like it much) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p
[21:52] <ZykoticK9> hp?t=835573  Good luck man.
[21:52] <edbian> TheNewGuy: Understand??
[21:52] <pronoy> a1fa dude we heard you the first time you probably aren't allowed to view that cuz its for the admins or something
[21:52] <Adola> coleys: It doesnt' work.
[21:52] <bucky> TimX4209: tiny core linux has a nice website with docs and a searchable forum http://www.tinycorelinux.com/
[21:52] <a1fa> pronoy : actually my proxy is blocking forums
[21:52] <cicada> mickster04: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[21:52] <cicada> Like that?
[21:52] <a1fa> pronoy : its vmware patch
[21:52] <coleys> Adola: sudo apt-cache search alsa
[21:53] <te_> enterneo_: We would also need to see output of sudo fdisk -l
[21:53] <danbhfive> a1fa: http://pastebin.com/f75de4f41
[21:53] <pronoy> a1fa  ok .. so use a tunnel
[21:53] <a1fa> danbhfive : thank you sir
[21:53] <te_> enterneo_: and cat /etc/fstab
[21:53] <danbhfive> np
[21:53] <rohtie> ok i give up >_>
[21:53] <rohtie> bai everyone
[21:53] <TimX4209> on tinycorelinux they want u to download the stuff with their distro and i cant get online with their distro so i need to put the drivers and programs on a usb with the tiny core
[21:53] <Guest87898> hi i am trying to remote login to my windows vista laptop using ubuntu 9.04 desktop ...... can someone help me to solve this.
[21:53] <a1fa> danbhfive : i appreciate it
[21:53] <cicada> mickster04: what are full nicks?
[21:53] <TimX4209> cuz my atheros wifi 5007 does not work on any distro except ubuntu
[21:53] <Radtoo> TimX4209: Entirely different disto, not the right channel to talk about that here.
[21:54] <jg_> hello
[21:54] <mickster04> cicada, that :D mickster04 instead of mickster :p
[21:54] <jg_> help needed
[21:54] <rull> quelqu'un parle français et connait bien ubuntu
[21:54] <mickster04> jg_ we know
[21:54] <TimX4209> but this is the only distro that my wifi works on
[21:54] <enterneo_> te_: I am currently on ubuntu installer, I can assure you, / is installed on /dev/sda5 , and I manually installed grub on (hd0,4), should I paste back the menu list option to your PM?
[21:54] <TimX4209> im on ubuntu right now
[21:54] <jg_> my youtube wont work
[21:54] <pronoy> jg_ dude you retarded or something ?
[21:54] <Radtoo> rull: #ubuntu-fr perhaps?
[21:54] <Adola> coleys: http://pastebin.com/m20f383b8
[21:54] <mickster04> cicada, http://www.linuxgamepublishing.com/support.php
[21:54] <te_> enterneo_: enterneo_ Ok
[21:54] <mickster04> pronoy !ohmy
[21:54] <jg_> pronoy watch what your saying
[21:54] <jg_> i started ubuntu yesterday
[21:54] <jg_> i dont know how to use it
[21:54] <TimX4209> anyone know how ubuntu connects to wifi with atheros 50007
[21:54] <jg_> i need help
[21:54] <jg_> so
[21:54] <jg_> tell me
[21:54] <edbian> jg_: You need to install flash.  First go to the repos.  Do you know what the repos are??
[21:54] <FloodBot2> jg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <raylu> how do i check the name of the driver my X11 is currently using? i have an intel mobile 4
[21:54] <jg_> no
[21:55] <pronoy> mickster04 oi ! that wasn't necessary he's on pm with me...and he keeps quitting and issuing the same question
[21:55] <jg_> i dont now what repos is
[21:55] <cicada> mickseter: yeah, I tried there support page...they haven't gotten back me just yet..
[21:55] <pronoy> jg_ i thought you were on a pm wimme
[21:55] <Radtoo> TimX4209: Most likely ubuntu has a more recent kernel. But we'd not know what the other dists did not have.
[21:55] <edbian> jg_ see my pm???
[21:55] <daedra> anyone know of an app to automatically tag my mp3s?
[21:55] <pronoy> jg_ and i told you how to enable them
[21:55] <coleys> Adola: sudo apt-get install alsa-utils alsamixergui
[21:55] <mickster04> cicada, whats the error, but i would suggest waiting :D
[21:55] <TheNewGuy> edbain... why did you do that
[21:55] <TimX4209> i tried the new fedora and my wifi did not work
[21:55] <edbian> TheNewGuy: Do what?
[21:55] <TheNewGuy> is there a monitor in here?
[21:55] <cicada> mickster: do you know if Jaunty comes with glibc installed?
[21:55] <mickster04> pronoy, it was still a little harsh, in public
[21:55] <TheNewGuy> you told me to put in a command that shut me down... WTF
[21:56] <ZykoticK9> daedra, check out easytag - the "scanner" feature is quite powerful.
[21:56] <mysticdarkhack> hello, anyone here experience vlc is not working and it give you an error message saying owner die at: /usr/lib/libvlccore.so.0(vlc_pthread_fatal+0xb5)[0xb7fe3235
[21:56] <TimX4209> my sound is also not working good on alot of distros on windows it uses conexant high def audio
[21:56] <mickster04> cicada, no i dont, try synaptics? or search the uuntu site a little
[21:56] <raylu> cicada: yes, of course it does
[21:56] <TheNewGuy> is there a room monitor in here?
[21:56] <Radtoo> TimX4209: You could always try to deploy a recent .30 or even 31 rc kernel on your own and see if that helps. Its not easy on some distros tho. Also, why not just use ubnutu if it works?
[21:56] <pronoy> mickster04 he's on 2 seperate pms with me ! with 2 nicks and he's issuiing the same question5 times on the channel
[21:56] <mickster04> raylu ta
[21:56] <raylu> TheNewGuy: #ubuntu-ops
[21:56] <pronoy> but i apologize
[21:56] <edbian> TheNewGuy: ???  I told you to press ctrl + alt + mouse button 1
[21:56] <TimX4209> if i update my ubuntu i lose sound also
[21:56] <TimX4209> so im waiting for 9.10
[21:56] <mickster04> pronoy tell an op
[21:56] <daedra> ZykoticK9: ok thanks
[21:56] <mysticdarkhack> anyone here know or fix this?
[21:56] <TheNewGuy> no, you did not say the mouse button
[21:56] <pronoy> mickster04 nah...that'
[21:57] <a1fa> hm
[21:57] <a1fa> the patch didnt work
[21:57] <pronoy> mickster04 that'll be like crucification
[21:57] <BCM43> is there a way to check a ntfs file system for errors? I have a hard drive for a windows computer that copies to my hard drive for a bit before freezing up.
[21:57] <edbian> TheNewGuy: I might have said left click?
[21:57] <TheNewGuy> WTF... I had three hours of work going and several running.
[21:57] <mickster04> pronoy he might listen to them
[21:57] <raylu> BCM43: no
[21:57] <BCM43> raylu: damn. Any suggestions?
[21:57] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, ask again
[21:57] <mysticdarkhack> hello, anyone here experience vlc is not working and it give you an error message saying owner die at: /usr/lib/libvlccore.so.0(vlc_pthread_fatal+0xb5)[0xb7fe3235
[21:57] <raylu> BCM43: get a windows recovery disk
 TheNewGuy: ctrl + alt + button one to hold the "screen"
[21:57] <pronoy> mickster04 you know i should probably pastebin steps of adding a repo and add it to ubottu
[21:58] <BCM43> raylu: k, thanks
[21:58] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, oh no i havent had any problems with vlc, whats the scenario
[21:58] <TheNewGuy> button one... the one key
[21:58] <mickster04> pronoy, not a bad idea
[21:58] <amit_> hi i am trying to remote login to my windows vista laptop using ubuntu 9.04 desktop ...... can someone help me to solve this.
[21:58] <Donedeez> does anyone know anything about 'missing LSB tags and overrides'?
[21:58] <mickster04> thenewguy he prolly means left mouse click, 2 is right and 3 is scroll click
[21:58] <TheNewGuy> not everyone here has 10 years of exp with linux.   come on man.. .this is a support chat.
[21:58] <henux> whats the proper way to regenerate /etc/motd ?
[21:58] <TheNewGuy> yea I guess he does meant that but see my last post
[21:58] <mickster04> amit_, whats the problem?
[21:59] <TheNewGuy> so what does that do ebain?
[21:59] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, not really sure and I wonder if it the latest ubuntu update.
[21:59] <edbian> TheNewGuy: See my pm??
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> BCM43, it "might" be possible using a virtual machine, other then that there is pretty limited ntfs filesystem tools under linux.  good luck.
[21:59] <Adola> coleys: http://pastebin.com/m6d65f3d6
[21:59] <TheNewGuy> what.. I'm in the pm.
[21:59] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, possibly, there seems to be a couple of problems...
[21:59] <Donedeez> does anyone know anything about "missing LSB tags and overrides"?
[21:59] <BCM43> how can I find out the size of a folder from the command line?
[21:59] <cyberworm_> ANYBODY KNOWS HOW TO INSTALL RESTRICTED DRIVER MANAGER BACKTRACK?
[22:00] <pronoy> cyberworm_ yo ! release the caps
[22:00] <mickster04> cicada, you still here?
[22:00] <cicada> raylu:  ok..I ask because it is required for a game demo I'm having trouble running that I got from Linux Publishing.  I get this error: Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:00] <cicada> ...  This makes me think that a library file is missing.  However, I checked synaptec package manager and the libcanberra-gtk package was installed.  The only thing I found for glibc in synaptec listed was glibc source and docs..  That's why I'm asking if glibc comes with ubuntu..  I guess what I want to know is if there is anything I need to do -- like compile source -- so that it can be seen by programs that need it..
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> BCM43, "du"
[22:00] <BCM43> !patience | CyberGabber
[22:00] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, yeah and I even --purge autoremove and reinstalling vlc again, but same resault.
[22:00] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, what are you doing and what is the error
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> BCM43, "du -h" for human readable might be of interest.
[22:00] <Radtoo> BCM43: du -hs is useful if you don't want to read bytes and individual files
[22:00] <cicada> mickster: that's for you too :-D
[22:01] <Radtoo> BCM43: And well, all my experience with this topic amounts to use Windows to check ntfs and/or get rid of it asap.
[22:01] <UbNoob> Hello everyone.  I'm using Ubuntu Jaunty w/Firefox 3.0.11 browser.  Some websites (facebook), I'm unable to see all the webpage, for instance, some of the games.  Any suggestions on what to check?
[22:01] <raylu> cicada: and what does this have to do with libc? what's missing is libcanberra-gtk
[22:02] <cicada> ubnoob: I can see these sites fine with Ubuntu and Firefox..
[22:02] <tonsofpcs> UbNoob: if you have flash installed
[22:02] <bucky> UbNoob: the scrollbar at the bottom
[22:02] <lesshaste> can anyone help with this ? http://pastebin.ca/1482194
[22:02] <raylu> cicada: glibc is a metapackage. it's provided by libc6
[22:02] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, well I run vlc on terminal since I can't seem to launch from sound/video menu. the error I get was LibVLC fatal error locking mutex in thread 3081668304 at misc/objects.c:395: 130
[22:02] <mysticdarkhack>  Error message: Owner died at:
[22:02] <n2diy>  I had ubuntu installed on my test box, and I replaced it with Xubuntu. I didn't reformat /home, would the old setting from Ubuntu conflict/confuse Xubuntu?
[22:02] <raylu> n2diy: no
[22:02] <comicinker> TheNewGuy: I think edbian didn't want you to loose your work. Nobody in this room is a professional supporter. He forgot to tell you how to return to graphic console
[22:02] <mickster04> UbNoob, if you do ctrl = (scroll direction) it zooms in or out depending on the direction of scroll
[22:03] <UbNoob> I wonder if it's the old laptop that I have Ubuntu on?  I have flash installed already.
[22:03] <panko> hi, how do i cut or disable the time of the remembering the password in gnome session? thx
[22:03] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, are you running it as sudo? if u are try gksudo otherwies theres a bigger oproblem if you cant run it from the menu
[22:03] <comicinker> oh, maybe there are professional supporters. sorry to them ;)
[22:03] <bandrews> UbNoob: I've notice flashed being messed up with firefox updates
[22:03] <edbian> comicinker: I worked it out with him in a PM.  I told him to ctrl + alt + left click though.  I don't know where the confusion came form.
[22:03] <cicada> raylu: well, I'm not a C programmer..I took a class in C, but I'm not a hacker..yet anyhow..  Still, I'm not sure, but I thought there are two main libraries that are used for writing in C on linux systems: glibc and libc.  My thinking is that maybe Ubuntu uses libc, where the games requires glibc.  I'm out of my element here..
[22:04] <TheNewGuy> My apology to edbain.  we had a communication brake down.   Thanks again edbain.
[22:04] <edbian> NP!
[22:04] <edbian> :D
[22:04] <UbNoob> I'm have firefox version 3.0.11.  Is there a newer version?
[22:04] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, no not as sudo or gksudo
[22:04] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, oh ok, well there is a problem that u cant run it from the menu, which isnt brilliant
[22:04] <n2diy> UbNoob: 3.5 was released Tuesday.
[22:04] <tumii> I put ' aptitude search sdl ' and got a list of packages, what should I install?
[22:05] <bandrews> UbNoob: Just sec, let me find the directory
[22:05] <bucky> raylu: so apt-got libcanberra-gtk0
[22:05] <mickster04> !FF35
[22:05] <joaojeronimo> Hi guys... Does someone know a build of cx-python available for Ubuntu 9.04 ? For some reason I can only find one for 9.10....
[22:05] <UbNoob> ok bandrews
[22:05] <Donedeez> Hey, can anyone help me with missing LSB tags and overrides?
[22:05] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, why can t u run it from the menu
[22:05] <joaojeronimo> *I'm sorry, I wanted to say cx-freeze
[22:05] <UbNoob> n2diy....have you upgraded?
[22:05] <Quasi1> börjar bli rätt seg i kolan
[22:05] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, yeah even in terminal
[22:05] <mickster04> !Patience | Donedeez,
[22:05] <Quasi1> hmm...wrong window, sry
[22:05] <cicada> bucky: what will 'so apt-got libcanberra-gtk0' do??
[22:05] <n2diy> UbNoob: no, I'm waiting for the repos to catch up with it.
[22:05] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, no clue
[22:06] <UbNoob> n2diy - probably wise
[22:06] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack,  i have a feeling it may be related? what system you running?
[22:06] <cicada> O:-)
[22:06] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, jaunty on dell vostro
[22:06] <bucky> cicada: he wanted libcanberra-gtk  the name of the package is libcanberra-gtk0  use any one of the 20 different package manager front ends for apt-get  to install it
[22:07] <chris_> when i get on pandora it says were sorry but unless you agree to share registration information with %s
[22:07] <n2diy> UbNoob: yes, I get myself into enough trouble with the stuff Ubuntu approves of.
[22:07] <bandyo1> Hi everyone. I am new here. I messed up some bluetooth related files. My desktop used to have a bluetooth dongle, but not anymore. Now I get an error message when the application "bluez" tries to be updated. I cannot install, uninstall, or update this bluez from Synaptic or Update Manager. Help. Thanks.
[22:07] <UbNoob> n2diy - ha ha!
[22:07] <raylu> bucky: please read scrollback; that's not the issue
[22:07] <bucky> raylu: sorry too much work
[22:08] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, oh ermm..well has it worked before
[22:08] <chris_> when i try to get on Pandora it says We're sorry, but unless you agree to share registration information with %s, you will be unable to listen to %s, why does it do this?
[22:08] <raylu> cicada: again, glibc is a metapackage. all it's functionality is provided by libc. your issue has _nothing_ to do with (g)libc at all
[22:08] <UbNoob> bandrews - stepping away from my computer but will stay signed on.  Thank You for looking.
[22:08] <cicada> raylu: Ok.  Thanks for the reassurance..
[22:08] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, yeah since I fresh install jaunty
[22:08] <job> i want to make my top panel completely transparent but transparency is not apply to either end. any idea?
[22:08] <chris_> does anyone know?
[22:09] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, when did it break
[22:09] <antibody> :S I hope every single Bluray involved person dies
[22:09] <derek6711> edbian, it worked
[22:09] <antibody> :S
[22:09] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, I might think of reinstalling jaunty and so where it goes from there.
[22:09] <antibody> I had no idea bluray DRM was like this :(
[22:09] <mickster04> chris_, hang on
[22:09] <antibody> !bluray
[22:09] <cicada> raylu: any ideas why it can't find that file?
[22:09] <antibody> !blu-ray
[22:09] <edbian> derek6711: Yay!
[22:09] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, ok
[22:09] <raylu> cicada: though, i'm wondering if you have libcanberra-gtk-module installed?
[22:09] <bucky> raylu: he might need libc6-dev to build something... but afaik cicada just wanted to install a demo game fro Linux Publishing and who knows what that entails
[22:09] <fabio> blu ray doesnt work in ubuntu?
[22:09] <chris_> k thanks
[22:09] <derek6711> edbian, thanks a lot
[22:09] <edbian> job: Are you talking about the hiding buttons?
[22:09] <edbian> derek6711: NP
[22:10] <bandrews> UbNoob: Check the location of the flash plugin for firefox. There are a couple directiories depending on the version. Try making sure they all have it
[22:10] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, not really sure since I haven't us vlc in quite awhile
[22:10] <antibody> any pro in bluray to help me out reading a movie?
[22:10] <Adola> I did "important security updates" and I can't use alsa now.  Or rather, I don't see it.  How can I check>  Or anything like that? (I believe, it changed my kernel version, should I purge Alsa, and try again?)
[22:10] <job> edbian yes
[22:10] <raylu> How do i check the name of the driver my X11 is currently using? I have an intel mobile 4
[22:10] <edbian> job: They don't go transparent :(
[22:10] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, well mine has worked gr8 :P well if there is nothing important things on ur set up it might e easier, update firstly :D
[22:10] <bandrews> UbNoob: /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and also /usr/lib/firefox*/plugins
[22:10] <raylu> Adola: restart after kernel upgrades
[22:11] <job> edbian even the background of icons and menu area
[22:11] <mezquitale> anyone knows the steps to install NX server, the edition that can have up to 2 connections???
[22:11] <Adola> raylu: I have...Secveral times.
[22:11] <job> apps places & system
[22:11] <edbian> job: Are you running compiz??
[22:11] <mysticdarkhack> mickster04, yeah
[22:11] <job> yes
[22:11] <mysticdarkhack> well I'm off now all
[22:11] <job> edbian: yes compiz
[22:11] <bucky> raylu: try lsmod |grep agpgart
[22:11] <edbian> job: Your Applications Places and System menu isn't transparent??
[22:11] <mysticdarkhack> later and ty for your asistant
[22:12] <mickster04> mysticdarkhack, tara
[22:12] <job> edbian: no it isn't just the middle part
[22:12] <cicada> raylu: yes, according to the synaptic pkg mgr
[22:12] <raylu> bucky: nothing
[22:12] <raylu> Adola: alsamixer
[22:12] <bucky> raylu: then no 3d
[22:12] <edbian> job: I'm sorry but IDK?  Maybe kill your gnome-panel and restart it. ??
[22:12] <xiambax> Anyone know why a TPLink WN951n would lock up my computer upon connect? It does the same thing in Windows 7
[22:13] <mickster04> anyone not being answered?
[22:13] <raylu> bucky: agp = ?
[22:13] <job> edbian: thanks i will try that
[22:13] <TheNewGuy> Thanks for the all the help today!  really nice to know all you volunteers are here.   Thanks for your time. have a great weekend.  The NEW GUY.    Who is a little less new, and now even more less new.... a little more... .... some more less new... ok, now a whole lot more less new but still kinda new compared to some people, but much less new then others. LOL... OLD or new it feels great to be out from under Bills thumb.   bye   .
[22:13] <Adola> raylu: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[22:13] <raylu> bucky: and that wasn't really the question. i'm just wondering which driver is in use
[22:13] <jg> whers the guy who helped me
[22:13] <raylu> Adola: sudo aptitude reinstall alsa-utils
[22:13] <bucky> raylu: try lsmod and see which video driver is loaded
[22:14] <jg> my pc lagged plz pm me i dont remmber your name
[22:14] <raylu> bucky: i see an intel_agp
[22:14] <edbian> jg: Was it me?
[22:14] <jg> no the other one
[22:14] <edbian> jg: What are you trying to do?
[22:14] <jg> i was trying to make youtube work
[22:14] <jg> then my pc lagged
[22:14] <jg> and wont move
[22:14] <jg> so i restarted
[22:14] <UbNoob> bandrews:  in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, there is a flashplugin-alternative.so    Am checking next directory.
[22:15] <jg> and i want to find the guy hwo pmed me
[22:15] <jg> and helped me hes name was po something
[22:15] <bucky> raylu: are any other modules listed on the same line that would infer that they depend on intel_agp
[22:15] <raylu> bucky: no
[22:15] <bucky> hmmm
[22:15] <jg> Need Help any helpers pm me plz
[22:16] <jg> help me dudes
[22:16] <bucky> !xconfig | raylu
[22:16] <chris_> anybody know how to fix my Pandora problem?
[22:16] <Adola> raylu: http://pastebin.com/m632d6652
[22:17] <Adola> It's still not in "volume control" alsa that is.
[22:17] <jg> OMG when thf are you gonna help me
[22:17] <bandrews> UbNoob: I also have it in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins . I'm not really sure why they are all there
[22:17] <UbNoob> bandrews:  in /usr/lib/firefox/   flashplugin-alternative.so   There is nothing in the /usr/lib//firefox 3.0.11/plugin directory.    Also, nothing in the  /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugin directory.
[22:18] <pronoy> jg what did i tell you
[22:18] <mickster04> pronoy is he ack
[22:18] <pronoy> mickster04 yes
[22:18] <bandrews> UbNoob:
[22:18] <clusty> finally windows choked :(
[22:19] <pronoy> mickster04 back on pm wimm
[22:19] <clusty> grrrrerererre
[22:19] <jorick> E: Package php5-mysql has no installation candidate => huh?
[22:19] <mickster04> xchat just froze :/
[22:19] <bandrews> UbNoob: copy the flashplugin-alternative to both the other plugin dirs and try restarting firefox
[22:19] <jorick> i'm trying to solve my problem with php not executing mysql_connect....
[22:19] <arcsky> anyone know a nice simple snmp and mrtg howto?
[22:19] <UbNoob> bandrews:   I will try that and be back in a few....
[22:20] <kromar> re
[22:20] <Gino> I've got some some questions about mail in ubuntu/linux, first: How much mail is "too much" for one user? Seccond: On a ubuntu installation, is there an application I can use to move mail between user accounts?
[22:21] <Adola> I've reinstalled alsa, it doesn't work.
[22:21] <bandrews> My screen does some sort of auto-dim/auto-brightness adjust when something like 60% of the screen is black.  I can't find any settings to turn this off.
[22:21] <Jimmio> Hello all, I have a feeling gnome's keyboard shortcuts broke for some reason, as if there's something that's taking input before it can receive it because my multimedia keys are now dead x.x What can I do?
[22:21] <Radtoo> Gino: depends on how you handle mail, to begin with.
[22:21] <raylu> Gino: how do you have your mail stored?
[22:21] <Jimmio> bandrews: I have that too. It's called X-Contrast and it's on your monitor, not ubuntu
[22:21] <raylu> bucky: not interested in reconfiguring... just wondering what i'm using
[22:21] <kromar> why does blender not get updated in the package manager?
[22:22] <bandrews> Jimmio: Ah thanks! I was looking through monitor settings, but couldn't find it. Wasn't sure if it was a compiz thing or what
[22:22] <Jimmio> kromar: Security updates and bug fixes. Not new features and not community software updates most of the time.
[22:22] <Jimmio> bandrews: You're welcome :)
[22:22] <Radtoo> Gino: if you use some normal graphical email client, I guess its just like you were storing files on your hard disk drive. no clients I know of have anywhere near the degressive behviour of outlook that leads people to believe there's "too much" email, so its bacially like handling files, constrained by drive space.
[22:22] <lesshaste> can anyone help with this ? http://pastebin.ca/1482194
[22:23] <mickster04> anyone not bein served? im free
[22:23] <bandyo> Hi everyone! I am trying to update Bluez and getting following errors:Preparing to replace bluez 4.32-0ubuntu4 (using .../bluez_4.32-0ubuntu4.1_i386.deb) ...
[22:23] <bandyo>  * Stopping bluetooth                                                    [ OK ]
[22:23] <bandyo> dund: no process killed
[22:23] <bandyo> invoke-rc.d: initscript bluetooth, action "stop" failed.
[22:23] <bandyo> dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[22:23] <FloodBot2> bandyo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:23] <bandyo> dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
[22:23] <Jimmio> bandrews: I actually recommend getting used to it and using it because LCDs are very bad at color reproduction.
[22:24] <imaginativeone> which version of samba do I want to install?
[22:24] <bandyo> Opps
[22:25] <hamaney> what a question
[22:25] <short__error> Can someone help me with openarena?
[22:25] <bandrews> Jimmio: Ah didn't think about that.  I only hate it when I'm trying to read code ;)
[22:25] <mickster04> not me:/
[22:25] <pjm90041> Can anyone help me - I can't get my freshly installed Ubuntu dual boot system to boot up Windows...
[22:25] <bucky> raylu: since ubuntu has weened itself off the dependancy of the /etc/X11/xorg.config file there's no easy way of readily finding that out now unless you do specifically tell it to use a certain driver through reconfiguring... that being said, dmesg might tell you
[22:25] <raylu> lesshaste: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:25] <Jimmio> bandrews: Yeah, that's why I turned mine off xD
[22:25] <matrixblue> is gspca in the repositories?
[22:25] <lesshaste> raylu: what does that do?
[22:25] <pronoy> !topic
[22:25] <Radtoo> matrixblue: it should be in newer kernels, no?
[22:26] <raylu> bucky: Xorg.0.log: (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,
[22:26] <raylu> bucky: heh.
[22:26] <matrixblue> Radtoo, I can't get my webcam working so I'm guessing no
[22:26] <joaojeronimo__> Hi guys, I'm trying to build cx-freeze (since I can't find a version to work with 9.04, just with 9.10..) and I'm stuck with this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz" How can I solve it ?
[22:26] <Adola> I did a security update, now alsa won't work.
[22:26] <raylu> lesshaste: starts configuring packages that aren't configured, such as your kernel and its header
[22:26] <bucky> raylu: so which driver is that?
[22:26] <pronoy> !upgrade
[22:26] <raylu> bucky: "Intel" is the name :P
[22:26] <raylu> bucky: i'm just glad i'm not using vesa
[22:27] <bucky> raylu: mine is nvidia
[22:27] <pronoy> !upgrade | jg
[22:27] <bandyo> Hi I am having trouble updating Bluez See http://paste.ubuntu.com/208542/
[22:27] <UbNoob> bandrews:  Won't let me copy.  Says permission denied.
[22:27] <lesshaste> raylu: ok .. it gives http://www.pastebin.ca/1482334
[22:27] <Gino> Radtoo: Sounds about right, any idea about moving mail?
[22:27] <Radtoo> matrixblue: Well I think it is in since .27 or so. Not sure what you're using.
[22:28] <bandyo> Sorry for flooding earlier. See http://paste.ubuntu.com/208542/ Anyone help!
[22:28] <raylu> bucky: lucky :P
[22:28] <Radtoo> Gino: From...?
[22:28] <matrixblue> Radtoo, using Jaunty
[22:28] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com !
[22:28] <lesshaste> raylu: I think I need to find out what exactly is failing
[22:28] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:28] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:28] <lesshaste> raylu: any way to do that?
[22:28] <FloodBot2> Jennyyy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:28] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:28] <bucky> raylu: there have been performance issues with intel video and flash.. wasn't that what started this conversation?
[22:28] <mickster04> !op jennyyy
[22:28] <Gino> Radtoo: from one users account to another, I have a user A with 10,000 email's, but I want to copy them to a new email account B
[22:28] <pronoy> !ops
[22:28] <lesshaste> just kick Jennyyy please
[22:28] <dragon_> !ops | Jennyyy
[22:28] <mickster04> !op | jennyyy
[22:28] <raylu> lesshaste: that error message _is_ exactly what's failing
[22:29] <mickster04> wow
[22:29] <raylu> lesshaste: why do you have both ati and nvidia drivers?
[22:29] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:29] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:29] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:29] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:29] <Jennyyy> GIVING WEBCAM STRIPSHOWS FOR 2$,PAY BY TXT MESSAGE,ADD MSN realstrip@live.com
[22:29] <FloodBot2> Jennyyy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <pronoy> !ops
[22:29] <lesshaste> raylu: I don't want the nvidia drivers
[22:29] <mickster04> cheers mez
[22:29] <dragon_> this one took a while..
[22:29] <pronoy> Mez thanks
[22:29] <Radtoo> Gino: to the account itself? well... humm, I think you need to just use imap and like, drag & drop the emails in the client, usually.
[22:29] <lesshaste> raylu: I already removed nvidia-common.. what else can I remove
[22:29] <Mez> dragon_: less than a minute from the !ops
[22:29] <Gino> 10,000 emails = quite a long time and alot of network traffic
[22:29] <bandrews> sudo cp /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[22:29] <raylu> lesshaste: aptitude search nvidia
[22:29] <raylu> lesshaste: anything with an i in the left column is installed
[22:30] <bandrews> UbNoob: sudo cp /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[22:30] <joaojeronimo_> Hi guys, I'm trying to build cx-freeze (since I can't find a version to work with 9.04, just with 9.10..) and I'm stuck with this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz" How can I solve it ?
[22:30] <dragon_> what's the syntax of `find` command's -exec argument?
[22:30] <Gino> Radtoo: I was hoping there was some application or method of doing it on the server
[22:30] <lesshaste> raylu: it's very weird as this only started since the latest kernel update in intrepid
[22:30] <mezquitale> anyone knows the steps to install NX server, the edition that can have up to 2 connections???
[22:30] <raylu> dragon_: find -exec echo {} \;
[22:30] <Radtoo> Gino: almost certainly but it depends on which server it is and I don't know most of them :0
[22:30] <bandyo> Hi everyone! Can anyone help me with this update error? thanks. http://paste.ubuntu.com/208542/
[22:30] <dragon_> raylu: thanks
[22:31] <Gino> Radtoo: Just a ubuntu 7.04 box we have somewhere
[22:31] <Gino> Radtoo: I'm not sure if I can move mail from one home dir to another
[22:31] <chris_> does anybody know how to fix Pandora
[22:32] <jg> Hello the guy who helped me
[22:32] <jg> plz pm me
[22:32] <raylu> Gino: your ubuntu 7.04 box is actually serving as a mailserver? are you sure it's not the mail client?
[22:32] <mickster04> jg please be patient,
[22:32] <Gino> raylu: yes I know.... don't get me started on the person who built the "servers" where I work....
[22:32] <jg> ok im waiting for that guy dont remember his name
[22:32] <Radtoo> Gino: There's various formats in which mail could be stored and such. It still matters what exactly you use...
[22:32] <mickster04> pronoy you about
[22:33] <jg> pronoy pm me
[22:33] <lesshaste> raylu: removing anything with the word nvidia in it...
[22:33] <pronoy> mickster04 yeah here
[22:33] <Radtoo> Gino: And what applications that ultimately display the email and so on. There's no "generic" way to move these.
[22:33] <mickster04> pronoy goodluck
[22:33] <pronoy> mickster04 thnks..need it :)(
[22:34] <slovenian> hi all! i need help with gparted and partitioning
[22:34] <pjm90041> Can anyone help me with my "Grub" problem?  I'm a relative newbie...
[22:34] <slovenian> who can help me?
[22:35] <raylu> !anyone | pjm90041
[22:35] <mickster04> pjm90041, maybe
[22:35] <raylu> !details | slovenian
[22:35] <lesshaste> raylu: ok so this is the situation now... aptitude search nvidia|grep ^i
[22:35] <lesshaste> raph@raph-desktop:~/Desktop$
[22:35] <lesshaste>   but http://www.pastebin.ca/1482342
[22:35] <FloodBot2> lesshaste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <imaginativeone> how do I find out which Ubuntu version I have?
[22:36] <Flannel> imaginativeone: lsb_release -a
[22:36] <imaginativeone> does anyone know how to find out which Ubuntu version I have?
[22:36] <imaginativeone> heh heh
[22:36] <mickster04> !repeat | imaginativeone
[22:36] <Gino> imaginativeone: cat /etc/issue
[22:36] <lwells> I want to create a partition for my data, but I cannot resize the partitions?, why
[22:36] <pjm90041> Does anyone know how I might get Windows to reboot on my recently isntalled dual boot system?  Ubuntu 9.04 boots fine from Grub, but when I choose Windows I just get a blank screen that says "Error 21: Selected disk does not exist..."
[22:37] <Myrtti> lwells: are the partitions mounted?
[22:37] <lesshaste> lwells: have you made a parted boot disk?
[22:37] <lwells> yes
[22:37] <zimbres> hi, Does anyone here has a pc "project" that is fully gnu/linux compatible and quite up to date? So that I can steal it:)
[22:37] <Radtoo> Gino: If you can't give further information about your setup, I can't help you any more than this...
[22:37] <lesshaste> raylu: any ideas?
[22:37] <imaginativeone> Ubuntu 8.10
[22:37] <Kristof_D> imaginativeone: take a look at system->about Ubuntu it should be in there somewhere
[22:37] <imaginativeone> :-)
[22:37] <lesshaste> lwells: yes to which question?
[22:37] <mickster04> pjm90041, are you sure you idnt dlete it
[22:37] <mickster04> pjm90041, or otherwise remove it?
[22:37] <imaginativeone> thanks everyone (who helped)
[22:37] <raylu> lesshaste: i didn't get most of your last message
[22:37] <lwells> Sorry, my boot drive is mounted yes
[22:37] <Radtoo> zimbres: ehm, what?
[22:37] <raylu> lesshaste: oh you're saying there's nothing with nvidia in it
[22:37] <lwells> Myrtti, do I need to unmount it first?
[22:38] <Gino> Radtoo: Running email, using a maildir format? Does that help?
[22:38] <lesshaste> raylu: ah sorry... basically there is no nvidia pacakge installed but it still fails
[22:38] <pjm90041> mickster04: no, because when I log into Ubuntu I can find the Windows files (and all my precious documents) in the correct folders
[22:38] <lesshaste> in the same way
[22:38] <mickster04> pjm90041, hmm i cant on my dual boot system...:/
[22:38] <Myrtti> lwells: would help
[22:38] <pjm90041> I tried to follow some advice and play around with the grub menu.lst file... before teh blank screen just saod "Starting up" and sat there forever
[22:38] <lesshaste> what's the magic command to see which package owns a file again?
[22:38] <lwells> If I unmount it, that does not mess up my install right Myrtti?
[22:38] <bandyo> I am running 9.04 32bit on an old desktop. I had attached an USB Bluetooth dongle sometime back. I got it working. And now it is not there. I may have uninstalled some bluetooth stuff. Now I get an Recommended update for Bluez. But it fails to update or uninstall. The error message is in http://paste.ubuntu.com/208542/ Please help me uninstall this Bluez thing or update it. Thanks.
[22:38] <slovenian> ok: I'm preparing partitions for further work. I have disk with 3 partitions. sda1, sda2 (which includes sda5), and unallocated partition. I want to merge sda1 and unallocated space to make partition bigger and to install. sda 2 (or sda5) contains important data.
[22:38] <raylu> lesshaste: for now, i suggest removing fglrx too
[22:39] <lesshaste> raylu: but why is it still doing this nvida thing?
[22:39] <Myrtti> lwells: if you're using the partition, you can't unmount it
[22:39] <mickster04> pjm90041, are the uid's the same
[22:39] <raylu> lesshaste: not sure, actually. dpkg -S nvidia-common may help
[22:39] <pjm90041> micskter04: What's a "uid"?  Please be patient with me.  As I said, I'm a relative newbie...
[22:40] <lwells> Myrtti: so then how can I resize the partition?
[22:40] <lesshaste> I want to know where /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/nvidia-common comes from
[22:40] <Radtoo> Gino: yes... I think usually you can just move the file storage location and change permissions.
[22:40] <nono__> hello, i have usb very no speed with nautilus ???
[22:40] <mickster04> pjm90041, sorry pastein your menu.lst
[22:40] <zimbres> Radtoo, I have to buy a new PC, and I am afraid of so incompatibilities(hardware,driver) So I would like see configurations of someone someone else that was successful.
[22:41] <Gino> ls -lmc
[22:41] <pjm90041> mickster04: paste in to this line?  It's a file with many lines....
[22:41] <mickster04> noooo pastebin
[22:41] <mickster04> pjm90041,  noooo pastebin
[22:42] <pjm90041> mickster04: again, with your indulgence, what's "pastebin"?
[22:42] <mickster04> pjm90041,  then give me the link
[22:42] <mickster04> !pastebin
[22:42] <cactusfrog> hi
[22:42] <cactusfrog> i need help with grub
[22:42] <pronoy> mickster04 hey all done with jg
[22:42] <lesshaste> raylu: ok I am confused .. nvidia-common owns /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/nvidia-common apparently.. but nvidia-common is not installed
[22:42] <bandyo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208542/
[22:42] <cactusfrog> i need to reinstall it because evertime i try to install it i get error 17
[22:42] <slovenian> my problem is that i can't merge those two partitions
[22:42] <mickster04> pronoy well done
[22:42] <pronoy> mickster04 he's a 12 year old !! hahaha
[22:43] <derenrich> HAHA
[22:43] <mickster04> pronoy ah makes sense
[22:43] <cactusfrog> and when i try to boot up with my windows harddive attached to my computer i get another number error like error 21 or somethign
[22:43] <raylu> lesshaste: strange. consider dpkg -r nvidia-common
[22:43] <Radtoo> zimbres: ah. you know, with all the different hardware being offered all the time, this is almost impossible to do. the opposite approach as well, as the list of supported hardware is very long
[22:43] <cactusfrog> how can i fix this
[22:43] <raylu> lesshaste: also, i've got to go now
[22:43] <Myrtti> lwells: with a live disk of ubuntu (or gparted)
[22:43] <cactusfrog> i tried booting up with the live disk
[22:43] <UbNoob> bandrews:   It copied...but still didn't work.   I appreciate your help though.   Would uninstalling then reinstalling firefox do anything to fix it maybe?
[22:43] <j0nr> evening, can anyone help me with the correct syntax for rdiff-backup, remote source to local dir, using a NON-standard port please? I know I should be using --remote-schema, but can't quite get it right
[22:44] <lesshaste> raylu: Ah I needed purge
[22:44] <lwells> Ahh ok, that is what I am going to be doing , installing Karmic, Myrtti
[22:44] <cactusfrog> but i follow the steps and just get error
[22:44] <pjm90041> micskter04: I'm working on a different machine than the one that won't boot Windows.  I think the line you mean read "rootnoverify (hd0,1)"
[22:44] <bobesponja> hi
[22:44] <cactusfrog> hi
[22:44] <Radtoo> zimbres: I think you best either go into a shop and ask them whether they would let you run a live dvd with linux to see if things work, or get the specs of candidate machines and at least check whether the wlan card, graphics card, peripherials and special devices (say, fingerprint reader, camera, ...) are listed as supported on the net.
[22:44] <cactusfrog> anyone know how to fix the error i have
[22:45] <bobesponja> I get internet from my wireless wlan0 and I would like to forward it to eth0 which is connected to another laptop.
[22:45] <mickster04> pjm90041, well i'd like to see it all:/ nm i dont have my dual boot here eiterh
[22:45] <buttons840> I'm using screen.  How can I run a command with arguments?  I try typing "screen asterisk -vvvr"  but screen thinks the -vvvr arg belongs to it, but it should be passed to asterisk
[22:45] <bobesponja> how do I forward wlan0 to eth0?
[22:45] <cactusfrog> evertime i boot up my computer with the windows harddive plugged in grub wont load
[22:45] <cactusfrog> so i was told to reinstall it but i can't do that
[22:45] <lesshaste> raylu: heh.. purge was the solution it seems!
[22:45] <cactusfrog> because i get another errror
[22:45] <pjm90041> micjster04: I chnaged it to "rootnoverify (hd1,) and then added two "map" lines after that, one reading "map (hd1) (hd0)" and the other "map (hd0) (hd1)"
[22:46] <slovenian> raylu: ok: I'm preparing partitions for further work. I have disk with 3 partitions. sda1, sda2 (which includes sda5), and unallocated partition. I want to merge sda1 and unallocated space to make partition bigger and to install. sda 2 (or sda5) contains important data.
[22:46] <imaginativeone> how do I find smb.conf?
[22:46] <mickster04> pjm90041, ermmm im not sure what tha will do:?
[22:46] <lcabrini> imaginativeone: /etc/samba/
[22:46] <mickster04> !menu.lst
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> buttons840, try -- screen "asterisk -vvvr" --
[22:46] <mickster04> !grub
[22:46] <pjm90041> mickster04: sorry, I meant to say I changed it to "rootnoverify (hd1,0)"
[22:46] <cactusfrog> !menu.lst
[22:46] <cactusfrog> :S
[22:47] <zimbres> Radtoo, Yes, I think I am going to get specifications, because I am not going to buy it on a shop, I am planning to piece by piece on the net. I will certainly need a list of supported hardware.
[22:47] <mickster04> !grub | pjm0616,
[22:47] <mickster04> pjm0616, sorry,
[22:47] <cactusfrog> it doesn't help!
[22:47] <pronoy> mickster04 check this if it needs more adding    http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/208562/
[22:47] <mickster04> !grub | pjm90041
[22:47] <cactusfrog> i can't figure the fuckign thing out!
[22:47] <cactusfrog> !
[22:48] <mickster04> !ohmy
[22:48] <bandyo> Help me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/208542/
[22:48] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  you could install grub on both hard drives... the grub homepage/docs are also very well done. Grub is a powerfull/flexiable/comlex tool.
[22:48] <buttons840> ZykoticK9, doesn't work
[22:49] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: how
[22:49] <ZykoticK9> buttons840, you could just launch screen then launch the app
[22:49] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: i am new to linux and am going insain
[22:49] <mickster04> pronoy awesome give it to a op
[22:49] <Guest933> hey guys i'm getting this error: http://attachr.com/12391 can anybody help me? i already googled a lot but none of the solutions i found work for me
[22:49] <fergus> -.-"
[22:49] <pronoy> mickster04 yeah talking to one
[22:50] <Jagjr12345678> i cant get flash to work :(
[22:50] <Radtoo> zimbres: Ah, nice. Well, I can report that I assembled a variety of machines myself and didn't have any significant problems with these. Two things that most frequently were a bit of a pain after doing this check for support were certain ACPI modes and AHCI on some mainboards, and ati's graphic cards with certain kernel versions. Other than that, it always worked out just as expected by what I figured from doing web site searches.
[22:50] <mickster04> !FLASH
[22:50] <Jagjr12345678> ty
[22:50] <ZykoticK9> buttons840, Actually try $ screen `asterisk -vvvr`
[22:50] <slovenian> it looks raylu isn't here anymore, can someone else help me?
[22:51] <Jagjr12345678> i already have flash installed.. i still cant view youtube
[22:51] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:   the thing to rember is that with grub. if you add/remove drives that may 'reorder' the layout of the drives thus messing up the  drive names from the menu.lst (id sda1 became sdb1 and so on) also rember grub starts counting at ZERO.  and does not use the same drive names as 'linux'    You can 'install' grub to the mbr of a hard drive using  the 'grub-install' command  or other ways.
[22:51] <pronoy> !factoid
[22:51] <javaboy> i know this is a dumb error but i don't know how to fix it: when i click on the FF icon in the panel, it doesn't materialize. when I run it from the terminal, it doesn't create a window unless I use sudo. its pointing to /usr/bin/firefox . Anyone know what I've done?
[22:51] <naiad> anyone ever have problems with jaunty nvidia mcp55 network controller and ipv6 ( not able to get an ipv4 address from my router )
[22:51] <nadine> can anyone list me some linux games that will run acceptably on a 6150SE IGP? I.E. 30FPS minimum average
[22:51] <buttons840> ` or ' do you mean?
[22:51] <javaboy> this is a brand new install, I just downloaded all the reccommended updates
[22:51] <Counterspell> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04. My ~/Pictures folder is linked to a directory under a mounted SMB fileshare (via VMware /mnt/hgfs/.../Pictures). When I try to open the linked directory in the GUI X crashes. When I open it directly in the GUI using the original path (/mnt/hgfs/...) then no crash.
[22:51] <zimbres> Radtoo, Your information is valuable for me. Thank you
[22:51] <Radtoo> zimbres: It really isn't that likely that things don't work as far as the usual components found in every computer go. Even if you blindly chose hardware you'd probably never have to replace more than one or perhaps two components in the end...
[22:51] <axos88>  hello! Can anyone tell me of the help channel of openssl? #openssl seems to be (almost) empty
[22:52] <ZykoticK9> buttons840, nope `
[22:52] <nadine>  Geforce 6150SE*
[22:52] <Jagjr12345678> i cant get flash to work :(
[22:52] <j0nr> evening, can anyone help me with the correct syntax for rdiff-backup, remote source to local dir, using a NON-standard port please? I know I should be using --remote-schema, but can't quite get it right
[22:52] <Radtoo> zimbres: And this much, you should always expect when assembling computers on your own. They're cheap these days, but also get poor QA for each component. Well, good luck!
[22:52] <mickster04> !patience | Jagjr12345678,
[22:52] <pronoy> Jagjr12345678 you having trouble with youtube >
[22:52] <Jagjr12345678> yer + adult sites :P
[22:53] <pjm90041> mickster04:  Does this mean that you're referring me to those web sites?
[22:53] <pronoy> Jagjr12345678 ok gross..anyways go to the terminal and type   sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[22:53] <bandyo> help http://paste.ubuntu.com/208542/
[22:53] <ralf_1985> am new at ubuntu .. what is edgy and dapper ?
[22:53] <mickster04> pjm90041, ???
[22:53] <fergus> hi u there....
[22:53] <pronoy> ralf_1985 versions of ubuntu
[22:53] <mickster04> pjm90041, what sites?
[22:53] <maw1> !edgy
[22:53] <ralf_1985> mine is 9.04
[22:53] <Jagjr12345678> james@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[22:53] <Jagjr12345678> Reading package lists... Done
[22:53] <Jagjr12345678> Building dependency tree
[22:53] <pjm90041> mickster04: I managed to get it back to where it says "Starting up ..." when I choose Windows from the Grub menu, but then it just sits there with "Starting up..." on the screen...
[22:53] <Jagjr12345678> Reading state information... Done
[22:53] <mickster04> pjm90041, oh ubottu? hes a bot with wise info
[22:53] <Jagjr12345678> adobe-flashplugin is already the newest version.
[22:54] <FloodBot2> Jagjr12345678: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <Jagjr12345678> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[22:54] <pronoy> ralf_1985 its the latest its called jaunty jackalope
[22:54] <mickster04> pjm90041, is it the windows starting up?
[22:54] <cactusfrog>  so here is what i have done so far. First i have installed ubuntu on my secondary harddive. THen when i boot up i get an a message that says error 17 or something so i tried unplugging my linux harddive but that didn't fix anything.  then i changed my windows harddive to slave and my ubuntu harddive to master but still received the same error.  Then i unplugged my windows harddive  so only the ubuntu harddive was connected to my c
[22:54] <ralf_1985> yeah i knew it
[22:54] <ralf_1985> but is it edgy ? lool
[22:54] <pronoy> Jagjr12345678 use pastebin.ubuntu.com to display outputs
[22:54] <Jagjr12345678> -_-.. flood bot
[22:54] <ralf_1985> srry for asking
[22:54] <pronoy> ralf_1985 no
[22:54] <zimbres> Radtoo, Waht do you mean with "poor QA"?
[22:54] <pjm90041> micskter: the Windows SHOULD be starting up, but I just get a blank screen with "Starting up..." on it
[22:54] <pronoy> Jagjr12345678 paste ur o/p there and paste the link here
[22:55] <cactusfrog> anyone?
[22:55] <ralf_1985> thanx pronoy
[22:55] <axos88>  I have a source of true random numbers, which I would very much like to use with openssl for generating keys, and signing data. How can this be done?
[22:55] <Jagjr12345678> http://paste.ubuntu.com/208571/
[22:55] <pronoy> ralf_1985 np
[22:55] <mickster04> pjm90041, try what ubottu said
[22:55] <slovenian> hi, i'm running gparted from ubuntu 8.04 live cd right now and i have special desires for partitioning. who can help me?
[22:56] <mickster04> !grub | pjm90041,
[22:56] <mickster04> pjm90041,  try 'em out
[22:56] <mickster04> slovenian, what do u wanna do
[22:56] <ward-> i do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-xen-desktop , then i reboot and i choose the -server kernel from my grub list...
[22:56] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  these are all IDE drives?
[22:56] <ward-> then ubuntu does not boot
[22:57] <ward-> because it doesnt have the nvidia driver in the server kernel...
[22:57] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis:  ihave no idea what that means
[22:57] <pjm90041> mickster04: it was  jusr a link to some web sites that give information about Grub - it's of no use to me.  I don't think it's Grub that's the problem - it's somethign that's preventing Windows from starting up once Grub tells it to start...
[22:57] <mickster04> pjm90041,  well that the windows partition then, if grub is working,
[22:57] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: what do i have to do to get the grub to load when my windows harddive is plugged in?
[22:57] <mickster04> ?
[22:57] <the_dark_warrio> is it possible to install the new themes that come with Jaunty on Intrepid?
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  ide drives.. vs sata - the different kind of connectors..
[22:57] <slovenian> mickster04: i have 2 partitions which can't be merged or resized to one.
[22:57] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  install grub to the windows hard drive. Or tell teh bios to boot the OTHER hard drive.
[22:58] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  telling the bios may be the easier trick.
[22:58] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: sata
[22:58] <pjm90041> mickster04: Hmmm.  What do you suggest, then?
[22:58] <PapaChub> Does anybody know of an NFS server that supports "map_static" in /etc/exports?
[22:58] <mickster04> slovenian you ll have to keep asking ....
[22:58] <Jagjr12345678> anyone?
[22:58] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: wait if they  both are connected the same then they are both the same harddive right?
[22:59] <slovenian> mickster04: this means you can't help me?
[22:59] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: because i know one is a SATA hardive says so on the box
[22:59] <PapaChub> nfs-kernel-server complains about "unknown keyword" and unfsd just says "syntax error" :-(
[22:59] <mickster04> pjm90041,  iunno..sounds like windows is kinda dead, or your grub set up is wrong
[22:59] <mickster04> slovenian, yeah
[22:59] <Jagjr12345678> nvm i fixed it
[22:59] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  sata drives dont   do master/slave -  - if both drives are connected at the same time.. You got one that will be sda, and one that is sdb, or in grub terms (hd0) and (hd1)
[22:59] <mickster04> slovenian, i wouldnt have thought it's possible...but it must be
[23:00] <pjm90041> mickster04: Okay.  Thanks anyway.
[23:00] <hugodor> does anyone here know assembly?
[23:00] <slovenian> mickster04: structure looks like this: sda1 - sda2 - unallocated space.   i want to merge sda1 and unallocated space
[23:00] <lcabrini> hugodor: on which arch?
[23:00] <pronoy> hugodor a bit ...
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  normally when installing linux. I plug in one sata drive..  insttall linux, let it put grub on that hard drive..  THEn  i plug in the windows hd.. and tell the bios to boot the proper hard drive.. if i want windows. i tell bios to boot the other HD.
[23:00] <hugodor> x86
[23:00] <laymansnerd> i think i screwed up royally here....
[23:00] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  or you can set up grub to boot the windows hard drive also.
[23:01] <mickster04> slovenian, try removing the sda and using all unallocated for one new drive
[23:01] <ward-> i do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-xen-desktop , then i reboot and i choose the -server kernel from my grub list...
[23:01] <ward-> then ubuntu does not boot
[23:01] <andruk> does anybody know if this will work on linux: http://www.alesis.com/usbprodrumkit ?
[23:01] <ward-> because it doesnt have the nvidia driver in the server kernel...
[23:01] <lcabrini> hugodor: no, but if you need me to do something on a vic-20.. :)
[23:01] <ward-> any ideas?
[23:01] <FloodBot2> ward-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:01] <laymansnerd> i installed another drive in my case and now all of my drives are out of whack and i can't even access my new ext4 drive
[23:01] <SerenityKill3r> wow fx3.5 is fast as all hell
[23:01] <ward-> what was i thinking asking in here
[23:01] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: ok thanks so when i boot up on only my windows harddive grub gives me an option for windows so if i specify in bios to boot up on the linux harddive everything should work
[23:01] <ThJ> I have some manual config lines in xorg.conf for an evtouch-driver based touchscreen, and when I unplug the screen from USB, the calibration info isn't loaded. It seems that hotplug doesn't care about my config lines. How can I make it care?
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> laymansnerd:   they problery all shifted down a drive letter..  this is why mounting with  'uuid' type naming - is so handy.
[23:02] <mickster04> ward-, patience
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  if you boot the linux drive.. it will need grub on it also...
[23:02] <mickster04> SerenityKill3r, true, is it ot yet
[23:02] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  thers several ways you can set this up.. Grub on windows drive. bootung either os. is a common way to set it up.
[23:02] <slovenian> mickster04: it doesn't work, i can get old size as the maximum. do you maybe know, why i have exclamation mark near the partition?
[23:02] <ward-> mickster04, i'll probably find a solution to this crappy bug myself
[23:02] <mickster04> slovenian, nope :/
[23:03] <SerenityKill3r> yeah it is mickster
[23:03] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: i already have grub on linux so can i just boot up on that
[23:03] <mickster04> ward-, yeah probly, certainly
[23:03] <mickster04> ward-, yeah probly, certainly try *
[23:03] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: or do i have to configuer grub for windows too.
[23:03] <laymansnerd> ok i got rid of the old associations from my fstab i'm gonna try to reboot...cause i had my two NTFS drives mounting at boot
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  if you want grub to boot windows.. it will need a windows entry in its menu.lst
[23:03] <ward-> mickster04, just frustrating thats all, it NEVER EVER just works
[23:03] <mickster04> SerenityKill3r, ubuunutu?
[23:03] <slovenian> bye all
[23:03] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: it already has that
[23:03] <SerenityKill3r> yeah
[23:03] <Dr_Willis> bios --> (grub)(on either hard drive) -> reads menu.lst -> shows menu.
[23:03] <SerenityKill3r> mickster
[23:04] <mickster04> !ff35
[23:04] <Kristof_D> ward-: can't you start up in text mode and install the driver that way?
[23:04] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis:  ah ok
[23:04] <SerenityKill3r> if u want to install mickster
[23:04] <SerenityKill3r> type "wget -O - http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-3.5.tar.bz2 | tar xj -C ~"
[23:04] <SerenityKill3r> into the terminal
[23:04] <SerenityKill3r> it will install into your home folder
[23:04] <mickster04> SerenityKill3r, i dont want the beta
[23:05] <SerenityKill3r> its not beta
[23:05] <SerenityKill3r> its full
[23:05] <FloodBot2> SerenityKill3r: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: oh i know the problem i get an error when the windows drive is plugged in so basicly it does this
[23:05] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: bios----> windows harddivve--->grub-->error
[23:05] <ward-> Kristof_D, no but never mind, ubuntu just installs the segver kernel for fun i foudn out
[23:05] <ward-> i dont need it
[23:05] <ward-> another bug
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  if you have more then 1 sata conector on the motherboard.. move the windows drive to a different one perhaps..
[23:05] <ward-> this whole thing is one giant bug
[23:06] <ward-> time for debian again
[23:06] <Rubin> I need to generate divx files for use with a portable dvd player. Anyone know how to get mencoder to have support for divx?
[23:06] <ward-> i've been using debian since ubuntu 7.10
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> ward-:  have fun.
[23:06] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: tried that i have 4
[23:06] <panado> why do some themes cause display/window update problems but others are fine?
[23:06] <ward-> thought 9.04 would be nice since i heard so much good about it but i keep finding new bugs every minute :s thanx anyway
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Rubin:  i convert to divx.xvid all the time with mencoder/menplayer/winff/avidumes
[23:07] <Rubin> i guess i dont really understand the relationship between divx and xvid
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  time to learn some fundamentals on how linux and grub 'organize' disks
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> Rubin:  they are sort of the same thing. :)
[23:07] <dsdeiz> anyone using the "trayer" ?
[23:07] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: :S ok well will that teach me how to reinstall grub for windows
[23:07] <Rubin> Dr_Willis, sort of enough for an embedded device like a dvd player to think so?
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> Rubin:   the wiki pages ive read state divx has some extended features
[23:07] <mickster04> SerenityKill3r, do you knkow when itll e in the repos
[23:08] <lenswipe> hey guys, how do i download a text file with wget and then have wget change the extention on the text file to something other than .txt
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  you install grub to a drive you boot.. the proper menu.lst entry will then boot whatever..  thers no 'reinstall grub for windows' -> you 'install grub' :)
[23:08] <lenswipe> how do i download a text file with wget and then have wget change the extention on the text file to something other than .txt
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> Rubin:  from what i recall (been a while since i read it) both are just  mpeg4   with some extras
[23:08] <lenswipe> how do i download a text file with wget and then have wget change the extention on the text file to something other than .txt
[23:08] <mickster04> !patience | lenswipe
[23:09] <laymansnerd> permission to a drive....how do i gain it?
[23:09] <SerenityKill3r> GUYS, theres a video of michael jackson rehearsing on CNN
[23:09] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: ok well i want to boot of the ubuntu harddive because grub works on their so how do i make sure grub doesn't boot of my windows hardive
[23:09] <SerenityKill3r> http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/07/02/jackson.wrap/index.html
[23:09] <mickster04> !ot | SerenityKill3r
[23:09] <SerenityKill3r> sorry, got excited
[23:10] <mickster04> lol]
[23:10] <Dr_Willis> cactusfrog:  you tell the bios to boot what hard drive you want.. if you want a grub menu. You tell the bios to boot the hard drive that has grub installed to it..  Install grub to  the linux drive (if its not allready installed there)
[23:11] <cactusfrog> Dr_Willis: thanks all try that
[23:11] <laymansnerd> how do i change the permissions on a drive
[23:11] <laymansnerd> ?
[23:11] <laymansnerd> got my previous problem fixed
[23:11]  * Dr_Willis cant wait for the vast confusions/chaos thats going to come about when we all start ussing Grub2 :)
[23:11] <Dr_Willis> laymansnerd:  depends on the filesystem/files
[23:11] <mickster04> !patience | laymansnerd
[23:11] <laymansnerd> ext4
[23:12] <Radtoo> laymansnerd: chmod or perhaps you need to use mount options
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> laymansnerd:  then you use chown/chmod as you would any other linux file/filesystem
[23:12] <laymansnerd> chmod 774?
[23:12] <Radtoo> laymansnerd: ah ignore the latter part for ext4. use chmod/chown.
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> laymansnerd:  depends  on the details..   you can chante the permossions on teh mounted filesystem (after its mounted) if you wanted.
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> Dr_Willis, remember we did transition from lilo to grub successfully (prior to Ubuntu probably)
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> laymansnerd:  but thats NOt going to change the permissions for every file on the drive.. (unless you specifically change them)
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> ZykoticK9:  i recall the chaos about that also. :)
[23:13] <laymansnerd> there's nothing on the drive
[23:13] <Dr_Willis> laymansnerd:  then chown/chmod the mountpoint - AFTER the drive is mounted.. that chowns/chmodes the 'root' of the drive
[23:13] <laymansnerd> i want to transfer some files from an ntfs to this ext4 so i can format my 1tb to ext4
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> laymansnerd:  or make a directory ON the drive.. and chown/chmod that.
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> which is a little 'neater' arangement
[23:14] <mickster04> laymansnerd, i presume you can mount both?
[23:14] <laymansnerd> oh yes
[23:15] <Radtoo> q: Is there any application that can find duplicate files (exact match) for ubuntu, perhaps even one that can even look into archives like .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 for this purpose?
[23:17] <mgolisch> fdupes?
[23:17] <mgolisch> Radtoo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fdupes this also list other candidates
[23:17] <ZykoticK9> Radtoo, kleansweep (available in repo) is a pretty powerful duplicate finder, not sure if it can look inside .gz or .bz2 files but give it a look.  good luck.
[23:17] <mgolisch> hope that helps
[23:17] <u_dparte> hello, i just installed jaunty and as soon as I boot up after install the system freezes ... alt+f2 during the boot up screen shows a write to ADC failed error - not sure if that's relevant
[23:18] <u_dparte> i've installed on this box before but for some reason it's failing everytime
[23:18] <cocoa117> hi, is it possible to create nested group under traditional Linux group access method? e.g. in /etc/group can i create a group inside another group?
[23:18] <mickster04> u_dparte, have u ran the disk check
[23:18] <u_dparte> yes and it checks out fine
[23:19] <coldjack1> hello how can my ipod touch works with ubuntu jaunty
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> cocoa117, groups can be members of other groups i believe
[23:20] <PapaChub> cocoa117, Not in any *NIX I've ever used.
[23:20] <\\`oot> Hi... how can I make a program that needs access to a SMB:// file "see" that mounted share?
[23:20] <cocoa117> ZykoticK9, how do i put it in /etc/group file?
[23:20] <Radtoo> mgolisch, ZykoticK9: yes, that helps. Thanks!
[23:21] <cocoa117> PapaChub, what do we do if we want to create nested group? using ACL?
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> cocoa117, not really a great idea to be directly editing that file if you don't know what you're doing.  there are commands for adding users/groups to the system (sorry off the top of my head can't remember them)
[23:21] <pronoy> mickster04 they declined
[23:21] <PapaChub> Copy+paste :-?
[23:21] <u_dparte> ZykoticK9, cocoa117 groupadd and useradd
[23:21] <mickster04> pronoy shame
[23:22] <\\`oot> anyone, anyone?... Bueller?
[23:22] <pronoy> mickster04 check pm
[23:22] <cocoa117> u_dparte, i assume u want to me to use useradd group1?
[23:22] <PapaChub> groupadd/useradd *create* new groups & users.  I've only ever used "vigr" to "vi /etc/group"
[23:23] <u_dparte> cocoa117, yes ... check the man pages for exact syntax your needing
[23:23] <andruk> \\`oot: what have you tried, and how familiar are you with samba?
[23:23] <u_dparte> cocoa117, add groups and add access rights to those groups, then add users to those groups as needed
[23:23] <\\`oot> andruk: So far I'm just using the GUI to mount the share via Places --> Connect to Server
[23:24] <doink1212> The keyboard controls for PCSX are not workings, how do i get them to function?
[23:24] <laymansnerd> yay
[23:24] <laymansnerd> done
[23:25] <andruk> ...okay, good, thats all i know how to do.  just making sure you werent a complete newb being mislead by a bad error message that told you to check the SMB share or something
[23:25] <pronoy> !repository > pronoy
[23:26] <wolter> which module contains the wacom drivers
[23:26] <wolter> ?
[23:26] <proq> what command can I use to print a file from the command-line?
[23:27] <PapaChub> proq lpr ?
[23:27] <soulwarp> Hi I'm having a problem with one of my packages. It wasn't installed properly because the power went out in the middle of installing. Here is my pastebin http://paste.debian.net/40856
[23:27] <doink1212> can anybody help me with PCSX? its a playstation emulator
[23:28] <ZykoticK9> doink1212, what are you having problems with?
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> doink1212, first off check out pSX and/or epsxe - i find them a little better then pcsx -- just an FYI
[23:29] <doink1212> i can start up the games but there is no keyboard input... will it only work with a controller?
[23:29] <wolter> my usbmouse drivers where unloaded for some strange reason
[23:29] <wolter> how do I get them back?>
[23:30] <Radtoo> doink1212: unless you actually mean pcsx2, I agree with ZykoticK9.
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> doink1212, you can configure the keyboard input in the options menu i'm sure.  try just starting the emulator and see if you can find the input configuration
[23:30] <c0rleone> someone can help install artwiz-fonts?
[23:30] <soulwarp> Hi I'm having a problem with one of my packages. It wasn't installed properly because the power went out in the middle of installing. Here is my pastebin http://paste.debian.net/40856
[23:30] <doink1212> the menu doesnt seem to do anything...
[23:30] <c0rleone> im follow this how-to
[23:30] <c0rleone> http://urukrama.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/artwiz-fonts-on-ubuntu-hardy/
[23:31] <c0rleone> but when i type sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config, nothing happens
[23:31] <riotkittie> soulwarp: try running sudo apt-get install -f
[23:31] <doink1212> after pcsx I tried, pcsx2, psx, and pcsx2 on wine... all to little or no avail (im not that great at installing from .tar)
[23:32] <soulwarp> riotkittie: yeah i tried that before http://paste.debian.net/40857
[23:32] <c0rleone> someone can help me please :(
[23:33] <doink1212> pSX will not load its bios file, which i put in its folder
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> doink1212, re psx and epsxe you don't really install them, if you download the tar files just extract them, cd into the directory and directly run the executable (sometime in subdirectories like "bin").
[23:33] <lwells> How do I change the default email client for like Firefox to use when sending out links?
[23:33] <Radtoo> doink1212: I dont think the wine way is worth pursuiting for this purpose.
[23:33] <wolter> how do i get my mouse working again??
[23:33] <wolter> usbmouse is loaded
[23:34] <lwells> Currently it is using Evolution
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> doink1212, i agree with Radtoo on that - wine is NOT the way to go for emulation on Linux, there are EXCELLENT emulator that run on Ubuntu!
[23:34] <doink1212> I extracted everything, but i am lost in errors and configuration menus
[23:35] <doink1212> "Could Not Load GS Plugin '/home/nick/pcsx2/plugins/': /home/nick/pcsx2/plugins/: cannot read file data: Is a directory"
[23:35] <pronoy> cya peeps
[23:36] <soulwarp> riotkittie: watch what happens when i do "sudo apt-get remove -f miro" http://paste.debian.net/40858
[23:36] <ZykoticK9> doink1212, sometimes these sorts of emulators have dependency problems, try running the executable from a terminal and see if you have any errors (probably near the top) about "missing" this or that (then try and install through Synaptic whatever package is missing - sometime this requires some research about what package provides...)  anyways best of luck man.
[23:36] <bucky> c0rleone: you don't have fontconfig-config installed
[23:36] <doink1212> "	Not Detected SSSE3
[23:36] <doink1212> 	Not Detected SSE4.1"
[23:36] <doink1212> on pcsx2
[23:38] <doink1212> "Can't open libZeroGSoglr.so.0.96.2: libCg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[23:38] <intx> anyone here have a netbook that they've hooked up to an external monitor?
[23:38] <doink1212> i have in the past... does work that well
[23:38] <doink1212> *doesn't
[23:38] <ZykoticK9> intx, my old first gen eee hooks up to external monitors (only way to run Google Earth at full speed is by output 1280x1024 or greater)
[23:39] <AJC_Z0> intx: What's the real question?
[23:39] <riotkittie> soulwarp: try it again without the miro.   although i'm not sure that will make a difference.
[23:40] <irad> is there a way to setup gnome to have an animated background like - Dreamscenes in Windows Vista?
[23:40] <steinomite> how does one disable the loud beep that seems to come with jaunty? (note: i googled it but did not find the information i wanted)
[23:40] <soulwarp> riotkittie: http://paste.debian.net/40860
[23:41] <soulwarp> riotkittie: wait a sec, synaptic is ope
[23:41] <riotkittie> steinomite: system beep?
[23:41] <zugiart> hey folks
[23:41] <K0mp1ex> Anyone know if I can get songbird working with the "now playing" screenlets?
[23:41] <ZykoticK9> irad, Screensaver as wallpaper? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScreensaverAsWallpaper
[23:41] <Radtoo> doink1212: I know pcsx2 a little. The SSE messages probably are just for your information.
[23:42] <Patrick> guys
[23:42] <Patrick> please help me
[23:42] <steinomite> riotkittie: yes. happens in terminal and on shutdown/reboot
[23:42] <zugiart> question: How can I use a different directory for my desktop. i.e. if I don't want to use ~/Desktop ?
[23:42] <intx> doink1212: what netbook acer?
[23:42] <xubean> guys i need help setting up sound on my hp 3510nr laptop.. i hunted around the internet, but didn't find any solution.. any suggestions?
[23:42] <Patrick> i need to complely uninstall something how do i do this?
[23:42] <intx> ZykoticK9: the eees are good
[23:42] <doink1212> intx: aspire one
[23:42] <Guest2816> guys
[23:42] <Guest2816> please help me
[23:42] <intx> doink1212: yeah, i tried an acer, that's what i'm trying to avoid now by my question
[23:42] <bc> steinomite: xset b off (from the terminal), and optionally sudo rmmod pcspkr
[23:42] <ZykoticK9> intx, i've owned 3 of them, i like them a lot.
[23:42] <Guest2816> im trying to uninstall dekoron but i dont know how
[23:42] <riotkittie> steinomite: you can totally disable it by... uhm, i'm not on jaunty, but probably somewhere under Sounds under  the Preference menu. You can disable it temporarily wtih sudo rmod pcspkr
[23:42] <Guest2816> im talking about complete installing it
[23:42] <intx> doink1212: it works great for it's own display, but that vga port sucks
[23:43] <intx> AJC_Z0: i'm trying to find a netbook that can display externally, vga, non-blurry
[23:43] <intx> the aspire one (acer) did something like this: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/4362/simulatedbadvgav.png
[23:43] <xubean> guys i need help setting up sound on my hp 3510nr laptop.. i hunted around the internet, but didn't find any solution.. any suggestions?
[23:43] <Guest2816> anyone know how to completely uninstall something?
[23:43] <Radtoo> doink1212: On the other hand, well, missing libraries like the libCg.so must matter. But I didn't have this issue in particular, possibly since I built pcsx2 from source (and even some plugins).
[23:43] <bc> Guest2816: perhaps 'apt-get autoremove <package>'
[23:43] <doink1212> intx: ive had no problem with the VGA itself just trying to configure and run the netbook on weird resolutions (i was on a projector)
[23:44] <ZykoticK9> Guest2816, you might want to research "purge"
[23:44] <Guest2816> let me try
[23:44] <steinomite> is there a way to change the volume of it without completely disabling it? I can't find anything under Preferences > Sounds
[23:44] <doink1212> radtoo: so if i can build from source that may fix my problem
[23:44] <savage1> howdie folks
[23:44] <xjara> ola
[23:44] <bc> steinomite: is it the PC speaker beep?
[23:44] <Radtoo> doink1212: possibly. although, have you used a package for pcsx2 or just downloaded and extracted it?
[23:44] <savage1> i'm following some instructions that asked me to add a line to my sources.list which I've done
[23:44] <steinomite> bc: yes
[23:44] <savage1> the line is:  deb http://repos.groupoffice.eu/ main/
[23:45] <savage1> I added it to the very end of the file
[23:45] <bc> steinomite: not sure.. check out xset man page, might have an option
[23:45] <savage1> when I try to install the software after having run apt-get update, it says 'some of the packages cannot be found'
[23:45] <doink1212> radtoo: there currently is no package for pcsx2, i downloaded and extracted it... I have the original zip as well
[23:45] <savage1> and it's the packages that are fromt he respo...
[23:45] <steinomite> bc: ok. is there any reason why i might not want to disable it?
[23:45] <Radtoo> doink1212: the latter would at least require you to manually ensure dependencies are met. I recall they listed what pcsx2 needed on the homepage or maybe their forums.
[23:45] <bc> steinomite: I checked, yes it does -> "The  b  option  controls  bell volume, pitch and duration. "
[23:45] <doink1212> cd
[23:46] <bc> steinomite: I dunno, but I have xset b off in my startup script and don't miss it
[23:46] <savage1> anyone know how I can make sure I edited that right? does that syntax look right?
[23:46] <Radtoo> doink1212: and the linux version doesn't appear to be in a .zip, but a .tar.gz
[23:46] <bc> steinomite: (for about 10 years)
[23:46] <doink1212> radtoo: sorry i interchange the terms
[23:46] <soulwarp> riotkittie: no joy http://paste.debian.net/40861
[23:46] <steinomite> bc: ok i will try turning the volume down first. thanks!
[23:46] <Tetracomm> I am trying to set up a Brother M-1809 printer in Ubuntu 8.10.
[23:47] <soulwarp> Hi I'm having a problem with one of my packages. It wasn't installed properly because the power went out in the middle of installing. Here is my pastebin http://paste.debian.net/40856
[23:47] <AJC_Z0> intx: I have a Samsung SyncMaster 2233 connected to the VGA port on my Toshiba Tecra and it looks fine at full resolution
[23:47] <AJC_Z0> using the nvidia driver
[23:47] <doink1212> lols this storm is gonna knock out my power soon
[23:48] <ZykoticK9> savage1, i think you have one to many "/" it should probably be "...groupoffice.eu/ main"
[23:48] <postscript> doink1212: don't you love that?
[23:48] <Radtoo> doink1212: all right. well, all I know has been said, I guess. good luck.
[23:48] <\\`oot> Hello?  Is it possible to make programs in linux "see' smb:// mounted shares from the network??
[23:48] <Guest2816> what is wrong with ubuntu?
[23:48] <Cosmo1> I am having a problem my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this so that it stays dvorak?
[23:49] <Guest2816> (Reading database ... 192274 files and directories currently installed.)
[23:49] <Guest2816> Removing kwin ...
[23:49] <Guest2816>      AM i suppose to wait?
[23:49] <Lhorn73>  /join #aurora dawn
[23:49] <Guest2816> anyone?
[23:49] <bucky> Guest2816: it's based on debian ?
[23:49] <MidsummerDawn> Dawn?
[23:49] <MidsummerDawn> Who?
[23:49] <Guest2816> ubuntu
[23:49] <Tetracomm> I am trying to set up a Brother M-1809 printer in Ubuntu 8.10, but, I can't find a driver for it in the printer setup, help?
[23:49] <doink1212> radtoo: is this what i need to do http://forums.pcsx2.net/thread-2298.html
[23:49] <MidsummerDawn> Is that me?
[23:49] <bucky> Guest2816: what's wrong with it
[23:49] <bernz> (hm, i got disconnected there; anyway...) so, what's the deal with my boot not finding the .map file it wanted (which *is* there)?
[23:50] <Guest2816> i want to remove the program and the directory becase when i installed it was giving meerrors
[23:50] <Guest2816> now when i start the program theres no menue
[23:50] <Guest2816> i need to remove it completely
[23:50] <Guest2816> how do i do this
[23:50] <ZykoticK9> \\`oot, if you mount the SMB shares from /etc/fstab for example you can simply have programs reference where you mount them too and the program will never have to know it's an SMB share, it will only be on the file system.  Good luck.
[23:50] <\\`oot> ZykoticK9: Thanks... appreciate it
[23:51] <riotkittie> soulwarp: what happens if you sudo apt-get install --reinstall miro ?   probably won't work.    i know i've had the same problem with another package in the past, but for the life of me... can't remember what was required to fix it. sorry.
[23:51] <Radtoo> doink1212: from a quick look, that seems better than the instructions I used, although I guess it links to the same instructions for the (possibly) tricky compilation as well.
[23:52] <doink1212> radtoo: these instructions aren't exactly clear,
[23:52] <daishadar> how do i prevent a package from being updated?
[23:52] <soulwarp> riotkittie: I've tried that too, http://paste.debian.net/40863, thanks anyway
[23:52] <savage1> zy: when I drop that last / it says I have a malformed line when I run apt-get update
[23:52] <beliveyourdream> hello ... i installed ubuntu 9 on a dell pavillion dv5 and i have some problems with sound .it works after i boot up but after a while it stops working. i restarted alsa-utils but no luck .. if i do a reboot it works again . what could be the problem ?
[23:53] <Radtoo> doink1212: found the instructions I used: http://code.google.com/p/pcsx2/wiki/CompilationGuideForLinux
[23:53] <apoc_> What's the deal with all these option windows where changes have effect immediately and there is no Ok/Cancel?
[23:53] <Guest2816> someone please help me
[23:53] <Guest2816> i need to remove a program
[23:53] <Guest2816> and its registry
[23:53] <mdg> Guest2816: what program?
[23:54] <bucky> Guest2816: dpkg --purge <packagename>
[23:54] <Guest2816> dekoron
[23:54] <ZykoticK9> beliveyourdream, the next time it happens, try restarting pulse audio, then restart alsa (or vice-verca).  Good luck.
[23:54] <VCoolio> beliveyourdream: you can check if pulseaudio took over (I had that when I switched to alsa); run "ps aux | grep pulse" to see if that is the case and if so, kill it and disable pulseaudio for good. Other than that I can't help
[23:54] <bucky> Guest2816: did you install it as a deb file?
[23:54] <mdg> Guest2816: dpkg --purge dekoron
[23:55] <Tamnakz> anyone here know the term 'an ID is a terrible thing to waste" and if so can you please enlighten me?
[23:55] <Guest2816> a deb file?
[23:55] <beliveyourdream> i do have pulseaudio started ... how do i disable it for good ?
[23:55] <bucky> Guest2816: that's what package managers are for
[23:55] <Guest2816> it jpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove kwin-style-dekorator which isn't installed.
[23:55] <VCoolio> beliveyourdream: I don't remember, I followed some howto on the net
[23:56] <Guest2816> yea but it doesnt remove the whole registry
[23:56] <Guest2816> because when i try to intall a fresh new one it doesnt show menue
[23:56] <Cosmo1> I am having a problem my keyboard layout keeps changing from dvorak back to qwerty even though I have removed the qwerty layout and it seems at random times it goes back to qwerty and I have to run setxkbmap dvorak in a launcher. How do I fix this so that it stays dvorak? I dont know if this is related but I did notice that in my xorg.conf most of it is commented out "due to hal"
[23:56] <bucky> Guest2816: i can't find it in my repos so why don't you make it easy for us and tell us where you got it
[23:56] <postscript> Tamnakz: You know what an ID is, right?
[23:56] <Radtoo> doink1212: Hm. Well, I don't have anything better to offer. It was easy enough for me.
[23:56] <doink1212> radtoo: the instructions are for debian
[23:56] <dexter> aftter installing ubuntu everytime i try to boot up in windows i get an error
[23:56] <Guest2816> oh i got it from doing apt-get install kwin
[23:57] <doink1212> i am only familiar with ubuntu commands
[23:57] <ZykoticK9> Tamnakz, this is OT but i'm sure it refers to Process ID's and at one time killing one off would have been a MUCH bigger deal then today.  I stress "ONLY A GUESS"
[23:57] <mdg> Cosmo1: which version of ubuntu - gnome, KDE ,etc.?
[23:57] <dexter> if i boot through ubuntus grub i get an error saying error 13 unsupported executable format
[23:57] <Cosmo1> mdg: gnome
[23:57] <doink1212> never mind i need to install subversion
[23:58] <mdg> Cosmo1: out of curiosity, does it happen in a certain program or just any time?
[23:58] <Radtoo> doink1212: ubuntu is sorta debian-based, many to most things are exactly the same.
[23:58] <SerenityKill3r> Ubuntu IS Debian based
[23:58] <bucky> Guest2816: sudo dpkg --purge kwin-style-dekorator
[23:58] <Tamnakz> Do you know who might have SAID it?
[23:58] <Cosmo1> mdg: seems random including when I am not at my computer
[23:58] <mdg> Cosmo1: wow!
[23:58] <dexter> if i don't have the ubuntu HD as the main HD get an error saying grub loading stage 1.5 /n grub loading please wait /n error 21 (/n means new line)
[23:59] <bucky> Guest2816: if it says it's gone then it's gone
[23:59] <bazhang> Tamnakz, please non-support questions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:59] <VCoolio> beliveyourdream: I did some steps from here, but not all of them http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/ ; I remember doing step 1 and 2, not the rest
[23:59] <mdg> Cosmo1: Have you tried choosing layout through Menu > Preferences >Keyboarda?
[23:59] <dexter> if i boot through ubuntus grub i get an error saying error 13 unsupported executable format. if i don't have the ubuntu HD as the main HD get an error saying grub loading stage 1.5 /n grub loading please wait /n error 21 (/n means new line)
[23:59] <dexter> how can i boot up into windows
[23:59] <doink1212> radtoo: ok i am running through the terminal commands and crossing my fingers thanks for your help