NetLarIrvineI tried to install Karmic, but it just goes to tty, is x server not ready yet?00:05
NetLarIrvineI just downloaded the iso and tried to install from dvd00:06
BUGabundoNetLarIrvine: humm prob a miss match between kernel .31 and your GPU driver not yet available00:06
NetLarIrvineSo no way to get into x server then?00:07
ikoniaNetLarIrvine: what video card do you have ?00:07
NetLarIrvinenvidia 820000:07
NetLarIrvineg force00:07
ikoniaNetLarIrvine: you could also use the vesa driver00:07
BUGabundoNetLarIrvine: you can rsync the next DVD and it should be fixed00:07
BUGabundoor use the low resolution mode, and update for the missing modules00:08
BUGabundothey just hit the repo00:08
BUGabundoso you had just the worse luck on the DVD image00:08
NetLarIrvinehow do i rsync to the DVD00:09
NetLarIrvineYou mean burn a new one?00:09
NetLarIrvineBuGabundo: it does not give me the option to use low resolution mode00:10
BUGabundoNetLarIrvine: with rsync I can just download the missing packages for your iso00:10
BUGabundoBUT, yes you may need to burn a new DVD00:10
BUGabundoor put it on an USB flash pen00:11
NetLarIrvinek lost here, how can I add to the iso for the missing packages00:11
NetLarIrvineMaybe I am not ready to be helping with testing on Karmic00:13
BUGabundoa sec please00:13
NetLarIrvineI am such a NoOb00:13
BUGabundorsync -vvhhP --stats rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/dvd/current/karmic-dvd-i386.iso00:14
BUGabundoif you run this from where u have the dvd image00:14
BUGabundoit should coplete it00:14
BUGabundobut remember, DVDs are only built every 3 days00:15
BUGabundowhile CDs are daily00:15
NetLarIrvineok, let me try that00:15
NetLarIrvineWell it did something , not sure anything happened00:18
BUGabundonothing will00:19
BUGabundosince you should have the SAME dvd iamge00:19
NetLarIrvineIt did not change the iso image?00:19
BUGabundoif it is the same NO00:21
NetLarIrvineWell I just downloaded it today00:21
BUGabundoI said it takes 3 days00:22
NetLarIrvineFor updates00:23
NetLarIrvineOk, I get it now, sorry00:23
NetLarIrvineSo for now, there is nothing I can do about installing Karmic00:23
BUGabundohumm low resolution *should* work00:24
NetLarIrvineIt did not even give me the option of going into low res mode00:25
BUGabundocwillu: ping are you here? can you help NetLarIrvine ?00:25
Alpha7can someone help me my hard drive partation is mess up and its suppose to be two partations only    heres my remote desktop access vnc://ASUS.local::590000:26
NetLarIrvineOk, well I am on the Install or Live screen, is there something I can do from here?00:27
NetLarIrvineMaybe use Safe Graphics Mode?00:27
NetLarIrvineTrying it now, lets see00:29
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billybigriggerBUGabundo::: you get your nvidia working with 2.6.31?00:38
NetLarIrvineHey my problem too?00:44
billybigriggerand whats your problem?00:45
NetLarIrvineI am trying to get it to work in graphics safe mode00:45
NetLarIrvineI am trying just to install00:45
billybigriggerhave you tried the livecd?00:45
NetLarIrvineI am using it now00:45
NetLarIrvineBut installing on a seperate partition00:45
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instructorAnyone else have X hangs?00:46
billybigriggerso your livecd won't install?00:46
NetLarIrvineWell went right to installing it, i am in middle of process now00:47
BUGabundobillybigrigger: haven't rebooted yet00:48
billybigriggerNetLarIrvine::: so whats the problem?00:49
billybigriggeryour install is working yes?00:49
NetLarIrvineWell I tried a regular install, it only went to tty00:50
instructorBUGabundo: You are the most prolific user of identi.ca ?00:50
NetLarIrvineSo now I am trying to do a install in safe graphics mode00:50
BUGabundoinstructor: :)00:50
NetLarIrvineBUGabundo so far so good00:51
NetLarIrvineNot sure yet if I have mess up the partitions00:51
NetLarIrvineit got hung up right in middle of the partition process, had to start over00:52
NetLarIrvineThis is just an experiment box anyway, So I can just start over00:55
NetLarIrvineI just want to learn00:55
BUGabundoNetLarIrvine: eheh00:57
BUGabundoand remember to file bugs too00:57
BUGabundoinstructor: you up there? ping me00:58
NetLarIrvineyes i know that00:59
NetLarIrvineI am going to try to the right things00:59
instructorBUGabundo: upwhere?00:59
instructorYes I'm awake00:59
BUGabundoinstructor: identic01:00
instructorah right01:00
instructorBUGabundo: Pung01:02
* BUGabundo caminha01:04
ZorixDoes anyone know which is tha latest working daily live cd for Kubuntu ?01:30
ZorixThe installer crashes after partitioning the disk.01:31
billybigriggerNetLarIrvine::: was having a similar problem i think during install01:34
billybigrigger<NetLarIrvine> it got hung up right in middle of the partition process, had to start over01:35
pushraxhi all. where does the source of the kernel sit on the dir map?01:35
pushraxI want apply a patch01:36
pushraxI want apply a patch called "net-remove-COMPAT_NET_DEV_OPS.patch"01:37
Zorixbillybigrigger,  I might just try the NetInstall01:38
Zorixshould be /usr/src01:38
pushraxZorix: thx. checking now01:38
Zorixprobably isnt there by default... but I havent built a kernel in Ubuntu so I dont know for sure01:39
Zorixpushrax,  Is that patch for intel NIC?01:40
ZorixIt might be in the recent kernel patch that Ubuntu released either today or yesterday01:40
pushraxZorix: not totally sure, but it said to remove obsolete networking api's01:40
pushraxI'm fairly new to this patching thingy.  I can see that I need to some how symbolic link the patch directories tot he new kernel dir01:42
pushraxVirtualbox wont work on latest kernel otherwise01:43
Zorixsupposed to support 2.6.31 I read01:43
billybigriggervbox 3.0 supports .3101:59
billybigrigger2.2 doesn't02:00
pushraxpl thanks.  will look into upgrading to vb302:14
billybigriggernot in repos yet02:14
billybigriggerwell you can go ahead and install it outside of repos, just don't let bugabundo know02:15
billybigrigger:P he gets offended when you install software outside of the repos :P02:15
billybigriggerwhich makes sense though, in a dev cycle, you should test bugs for ubuntu's repos, as you won't be able to file bugs against a package that's not inside of repos i don't think, you'd have to file to vbox itself02:16
billybigriggerif gdm was built 10 hours ago how come its still being held back for me?02:23
billybigrigger  Installed: 2.20.10-0ubuntu502:23
billybigrigger  Candidate: 2.26.1-0ubuntu102:23
billybigriggeranyone having problems with the new kernel and gspca?02:31
billybigriggerwebcam problems02:32
billybigriggeri know it worked yesterday and after upgrading to 2.6.31 today i get this while doing $ tail -f /var/log/syslog02:32
billybigriggerJul  2 19:31:39 cabo kernel: [11502.374422] gspca: usb_submit_urb [0] err -2802:32
billybigriggerJul  2 19:31:39 cabo kernel: [11502.398542] ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: leak ed ffff88003781f2d0 (#81) state 202:32
pushraxI don't run cams myself.02:32
RAOFbillybigrigger: Because it breaks ubunut-desktop.02:39
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RAOFbillybigrigger: yes.02:44
NetLarIrvineWell just found out one thing02:58
NetLarIrvineYou cannot seem to install Karmic and have it work as a dual boot02:59
NetLarIrvineI installed Jaunty and then installed Karmic, and now only Karmic is on the Grub list03:00
NetLarIrvineCan I do bug fixes and get involved with Jaunty?03:03
billybigriggerdual booting what?03:08
billybigriggeractually it don't matter03:08
billybigriggertry this....03:08
billybigrigger$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall libdebian-installer403:09
billybigrigger$ sudo os-prober03:09
billybigrigger$ sudo update-grub03:09
NetLarIrvineWell I was thinking of just doing it in vm now03:09
NetLarIrvinelike virtual box03:10
NetLarIrvineThat way, if it goes wrong, I would just reinstall on the vm03:11
billybigriggerya i tried that03:14
billybigriggeri barely use the vm anymore03:14
NetLarIrvinewhy not03:14
billybigriggeri find it easier to test things on the machine i use constantly03:14
billybigriggerwell i dont run irc, empathy, music player/video player in the vm03:14
billybigriggerno point of running a development release if you never use it to find bugs :P03:15
NetLarIrvineYea but I could put Karmic on there to do testing only03:15
NetLarIrvineoh ok, I see your point03:15
billybigriggeri use it if there's a known show stopping bug03:15
NetLarIrvineBut there are still bugs in Jaunty to work out too right?03:15
billybigriggerand i'll upgrade the vm and get it sorted before i upgrade my host03:16
alkisgHi, I'm just trying to update karmic and I'm getting "the following packages will be removed: fast-user-switch-applet ubuntu-desktop". I guess I shouldn't update, right?06:23
alkisg(it also says that some other packages, like the kernel and the nvidia drivers, will be updated)06:24
cprxmm7Where is OpenOffice installed by default?06:32
SwedeMikedpkg -L openoffice.org-core06:34
papulif i upgrade to karmic through update manager can i degrade?06:43
alkisgAppareantly, updating gdm also uninstalls ubuntu-desktop and fast-user-switch-applet.06:57
alkisgDid the usplash just went away in the latest Karmic update?06:58
DanaGoh yeah, still no keycode>255 support on the xinput2 PPA.07:36
screamI downloaded the alpha2 desktop cd and it boots up a "boot:" prompt.08:07
bushwakkoroot@workwakko:~# /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 start08:42
bushwakkoStarting K Display Manager: kdm-kde4start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdm: No such file or directory (No such file or directory)08:42
bushwakkoanyone know how to fix this?08:42
Zoraelbushwakko: Um, since Hardy (I think) kdm-kde4 *replaced* kdm, so the proper call should be /etc/init.d/kdm start, which should in turn start /usr/bin/kdm08:50
bushwakkoso kdm-kde4 should be deleted?08:52
bushwakkobut kdm doesn't seem to be able to start kde408:52
melvin_Hi. I'm using Karmic. for me its impossible to resume to gnome session. The gnome-screensaver doesn't accept my password. I tryed it several times. the only way back in is to kill the screensaver. any ideas?08:52
bushwakkoI have to sudo -s and do startx08:52
Zoraelbushwakko: well, I'd try to reinstall kdm and see what happens. That's the iffy thing with upgrading, things get superseded and you're stuck with the old stuff08:53
Zoraelbushwakko: sudo aptitude reinstall kdm08:53
bushwakkohow do I get ps to linewrap btw?09:55
HewAny news on when firefox-3.5 becomes default for Karmic?10:49
jadez03I vote for that.10:49
jadez03Encourage webdesigners to use the new open media standards10:50
DanaGheh, best motherboard name ever:11:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 346505 in linux "[To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M.] suspend/resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" [Undecided,Incomplete]11:31
DanaGyeah... that's the DMI data in that tag.11:32
yofel_bad QA department o.O11:33
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dupondjestill no nouveau driver for 2.6.31 ?11:39
DanaGbug 24055312:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 240553 in linux "evbug.c spams logs and causes high system loads" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24055312:26
DanaGNobody seems to have noticed that this is also a SECURITY FLAW.12:26
DanaG... just like having a world-readable keylogger.12:26
DanaGevbug spews lots of lines giving every keycode you press.12:30
DanaGCheck your own dmesg to see if you have "evbug" lines.12:30
DanaGBasically, it's a keycode debugger thingy... but should never be automatically loaded.  Ever.12:31
DanaGOh, and i915 is randomly loading, even though I don't have any such hardware.12:31
DanaGargh, 2.6.31 kernel removed find_task_by_vpid symbol that fglrx needs.12:38
DanaGand xinput2 PPA has missing symbol DPMSEnabledSwitch12:38
TheFuzzballHow do I get fglrx working in 9.10?12:45
DanaGgoddamn Intel driver keeps randomly loading, and getting in the way of fglrx!12:49
DanaGI don't HAVE an Intel video chip!12:50
DanaGwow... apparently my Karmic was 32-bit... and I thought it was a 64-bit partition.12:58
DanaGI must've used the wrong CD.12:58
bushwakkoMy screen is wrongly recognized with the 2.6.31 kernel, I now get wrong native res and the max res is 1280x1024 while it should be 1600x120012:59
bushwakkoZorael: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/394492 <-- seems to be related to this13:06
ubottuUbuntu bug 394492 in linux "2.6.31 KMS fails to use correct resolution" [Undecided,New]13:06
bushwakkoZorael: sorry, that was't specifically for you13:06
bushwakkoanyone know if there is a kernel-build with this patched available somewhere?13:11
DanaGbushwakko: same thing happened for me on an Intel chip: used a mode that the monitor can't handle, though.13:15
DanaGoh, and separate issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/26886313:15
ubottuUbuntu bug 268863 in grub-installer "Ubuntu doesn't install on bootable SD-card" [Wishlist,Confirmed]13:15
oldude67after doing a partial upgrade it asks if you want to keep or remove certain packages is it ok to keep them?13:37
oldude67cause it is asking for a reboot and i fear i may have fubar'd the system... :0/o13:39
JMFTheVCIdoes anyone know where the equivalent of /usr/sbin/gsmsetup has gone to in Karmic?13:43
JMFTheVCI/usr/sbin/gdmsetup (sorry)13:43
oldude67great no fubar...yeah..:D13:46
robin0800can't enable desktop effects now after todays updates13:48
oldude67running intel celeron 2.4 with intel board and desktop effects still able to use after todays updates keeping old files.13:49
oldude67just to let everyone know..13:49
robin0800oldude67: think partial update removed gdm not realy sure why13:50
oldude67yes it did, and killed splash screen13:51
oldude67went back to oxygen13:51
oldude67as far as desktop effects, i still have them running like explosion and such.13:53
Le-Chuck_ITAHeya all13:56
Le-Chuck_ITAIn karmic, whenever I log in, the panels do not appear, instead I see the disk spinning indefinitely; if I "killall gnome-panel" then it is restarted correctly and the disk spinning stops. Did this happen to some of you?13:57
JMFTheVCIWhere has gdmsetup gone to in Karmic? It was part of GDM. I have just had a load of updates and it has given me a very annoing login window where I have to select myself and then complains about the gdm-simple-greeter.14:03
oldude67yup thats 3 of us now.14:04
JMFTheVCIolddude67: does that mean that gdm is screwed for the timebeing?14:05
oldude67well not sure if it is for everyone, but atleast a few of us it is.14:06
* maxb says "me too" on the gdm-simple-greeter session spurious popup14:07
oldude67had more updates to add but update mangager is being stupid.14:07
JMFTheVCIdo you guys have gdmsetup (normally in /usr/sbin ?14:07
oldude67ya mine is as simple as it comes...14:07
maxbgdmsetup has gone away upstream, and they haven't written a replacement yet14:07
Le-Chuck_ITAJMFTheVCI: I have it14:07
JMFTheVCIso are we stuck with this annoying login window instead of the nice one? Is there a way to change the login window without gdmsetup?14:17
Le-Chuck_ITAJMFTheVCI: you could try installing gdmsetup from jaunty14:21
JMFTheVCII'll give it a go.14:24
JMFTheVCINope. Says it can't communicate with Gnome Display Manager.14:27
BluesKajhmm, FF3.5 installs as a seperate browser ..doesn't see any of the settings, bookmarks or extns on FF3.015:13
yofelBluesKaj: it should copy the profile of 3.0 into a seperate folder for 3.5 afaik - check the contents of .mozilla/15:20
BluesKajyofel, it's located in /usr/share/app-install/desktop/firefox-3.5.desktop15:20
BluesKajso it's not installed15:21
debfxwhen will firefox 3.5 be branded as firefox (instead of shiretoko)?15:21
yofelBluesKaj: what has the .desktop file of 3.5 to do with the profile?15:22
elkydebfx, when it's actually released, rather than in alpha/beta/whatever15:23
BluesKajyofel, that's what Im asking , kind of strange to me15:24
debfxelky: huh, it's already released15:24
BluesKajI think it might have imported my profile finally ..not sure15:24
debfxand the version in ubuntu is already at 3.5 final but still has the development branding15:25
yofelBluesKaj: shiroteko should copy the 3.0 profile from ~/.mozilla/firefox to ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.5 on first start so that you can use 3.0 without getting your profile messed up by 3.515:25
BluesKajwhen i lauch from the panel I'm srill getting the old FF3.015:26
yofelok, that shouldn't happen o.O15:26
yofelhm, when I launch shiroteko here I get 3.5 and not 3.015:27
BluesKajand from the kicker menu as well15:27
BluesKajI see the settings have transferred to 3.5 now , but 3.5 isn't located in the kicker menu ..guess i have to move it and get rid of 3.015:28
yofelBluesKaj: here the launcher for 3.5 is called 'Shiroteko Web Browser' and not firefox-3.515:30
BluesKajit finally shows up as 'Shiroteko Web Browser' in the kicker15:31
solarionis anyone else having pain today?15:33
BluesKajin the cli : sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser  shows it as firefox - /usr/bin/firefox-3.515:33
solarione.g. getting kicked out of the session randomly, and gdm problems?15:34
BluesKajsolarion, yeah, plasma keeps crasshing and recovering every 10 mins or so here15:34
yofelI don't get kicked out at all15:35
solarionI can't find any errors anywhere to figure out what's breaking15:35
yofelsolarion: Xorg.0.log/15:36
solarionyofel: is of no help15:36
solarionbesides, it'd be /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, because X restarts15:36
charlie-tcaHaven't done todays updates yet here15:38
charlie-tca~/.xsession-errors log got anything?15:39
solarionlooks like stuff freaking out that X disappeared15:41
solarionXIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 18852 requests (18851 known processed) with 0 events remaining.15:41
solarionthat's the first X-related message15:42
charlie-tcahmmm, seems like 18000 requests should be running out of memory maybe?15:43
charlie-tcaAre you sure X is starting at all?15:43
solarionIs what I'm using to talk to you right now, so yes. :)15:44
charlie-tcaoh :-)15:44
solarionis perhaps DPMS-related15:45
solarionhmm, there's a drm update; perhaps that'll fix it15:58
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derekShey guys. i am not sure how to describe my issue for a bug ticket. Not sure if its reported or not. Basically, my soundcard makes my system make this loud "click" everytime I open an application thats using sound, or close one. This is using most up-to-date karmic. Has anyone seen this before? Can anyone help me put it in more technical terms :)16:32
mbeierlquick q: anyone know if kerberos support for cifs is going into karmic?16:34
BluesKajderekS, open systemsettings/notifications/player settings tab, choose "no audio output"16:35
derekSBluesKaj: "systemsettings"? in gnome?16:39
BluesKajderek well this is kubuntu , maybe the ppl at #ubuntu can help you , gnome settings are different than kde16:47
BluesKajderekS, see the post above16:52
derekSBluesKaj: this is ubuntu+1 :)16:52
BluesKajoops sry , can't keep track of my chats :)16:52
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mariuzanyone with mysql issues ? trying to overwrite `/usr/sbin/mysqld', which is also in package mysql-server-core-5.116:57
holzmodemhi, could someone confirm that karmic does not load a custom DSDT thru initramfs?17:19
EagleScreeni am probing karmic with KDE17:24
EagleScreenmy user is not in sudoers so i canot use sudo or kdesudo17:25
penguin42Is there any investigation as tot the gtk+ problem in current Karmic?17:30
holzmodemcould someone confirm that karmic does not load custom DSDT.aml ?17:34
screamThe alpha2 iso does not boot on my virtual, or a physical machine.  It goes to the boot: prompt17:46
charlie-tcascream: try the latest daily image, then.17:48
ubottuDaily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/17:48
BUGabundoany one has two volume applets?18:50
penguin42BUGabundo: Nope, just the one18:55
BUGabundoI have the old and the new one18:55
penguin42I'm about a week or so behind though; because of the gtk+2 bug I've had to roll it back to 2.17.0 and it's stopping anything else from upgrading18:55
penguin42it's a bit of a pita bug18:57
derekSI found a weird issue that when I try to play movies with totem-gstreamer, the colors are messed up. i looked on launchpad, saw no bugs, anyone else notice it?19:22
BUGabundoderekS: nvidia?19:24
derekSBUGabundo: ya19:24
BUGabundoits HUE set to -100019:24
derekSBUGabundo: how do i know/19:24
BUGabundostart nvidia and set HUE to 019:24
BUGabundoderekS:  I have the same bug on every movie I start19:25
BUGabundonot sure if it is reported19:25
derekSBUGabundo: nvidia-settings?19:25
BUGabundobut if it isn't I'll do it! I'm very low on my bug quote this cycle :)19:25
BUGabundocwillu: do you have a bug for this?19:25
BUGabundoderekS: yes19:25
derekSBUGabundo: do you use twinview or xinerama?19:26
BUGabundoI don't know! LOL have to check19:26
BUGabundoI'm now on single mon19:27
derekSBUGabundo: where are the hue settings? i can't find it :)19:27
derekSnm found it19:27
BUGabundoxserver xvideo settings19:27
derekSyeah found it19:27
derekSBUGabundo: that worked19:29
BUGabundoderekS: only prob: you need to do that EVERY time you start a video19:30
BUGabundolet me file that19:31
* BUGabundo does $ ubuntu-bug nvidia-glx-18019:35
BluesKajnow that FF3.5 is my default browser any tips on getting it to link to the web from thunderbird , there's no "network.protocol-handler.app.http" default in about:config in thunderbird edit/prefernces.19:41
BUGabundoBluesKaj: what does alternatives say?19:41
BluesKajim thru with fooling around with kmail's quirks19:42
BUGabundothen you need systemsettings19:42
BluesKajI'm not going with kmail19:42
BluesKaji need to edit thunderbird , but the latest version doesn't seem to have a default brwser setting19:43
penguin42I think this is a systemwide-ism for default browser that's doing it19:44
penguin42(Is anyone else finding the 3.5 a bit sluggish compared with 3.0 on URL entry and lookup of the history?)19:44
BluesKajthe global settings aren't working in thunderbird penguin4219:44
penguin42oh, unfortunate19:45
BluesKajyeah, it's not as fast as I thought it should be19:45
BUGabundotrying a crazy thing: NM trunk 0.8 alpha woot. if I crash and burn, blame @asac19:47
BluesKajBUGabundo, what can alternatives do for my prob ?19:47
BUGabundoBluesKaj: ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam19:48
BUGabundopenguin42: that's galternatives19:48
BUGabundoBluesKaj: what does alternatives say?19:48
BluesKajI have the alternitives gui up , but i don't see any firefox or thunderbird options19:49
BluesKajbbiab , gotta check the postbox19:50
BUGabundoBluesKaj: Duh!! x-www19:50
rleedsAnyone else have a problem with their usb mouse going idle and being disabled really quickly?19:57
penguin42not had that; I do seem to have gained a problem with a keyboard (PS/2 on a USB converter) not starting up at power on - I have to unplug it and plug it back in19:59
rleedsWhere should I start looking for the cause of this mouse problem? Is there some acpi thing that might be aggresively powering down my usb devices?19:59
penguin42rleeds: Do you see any messages in dmesg when it goes?20:00
rleedspenguin42, nope20:00
BluesKajBUGabundo,alternatives x-www browser = /usr/bin/firefox3.520:00
penguin42rleeds: Does it still show up in lsusb ?20:01
BUGabundoBluesKaj: something like that! I just use galternatives20:01
rleedspenguin42, simpling running lsusb wakes it up again.20:01
rleedsso yes20:01
rleedsyes..it is. It's approximately 3 seconds after I stop moving it until the light goes off and I need to click in order for it to come alive again. Running lsusb does the trick.20:02
rleedsI wonder if it's a hardware problem with my mouse?20:03
penguin42it could be - what type is it?20:03
rleedsbasic logitech wheel mouse20:03
penguin42odd, what else you got plugged in to the USB port?20:03
BluesKajBUGabundo, what's the option for email app default in alternatives ?20:04
rleedsa hub with attached sound card and a keyboard...I'l try unplugging them20:04
penguin42rleeds: Is it a powered hub?20:04
rleedspenguin42, it has a power plug, but I don't use it powered20:04
rleedsthe mouse is plugged in directly20:04
rleedshuh...plugging it into the hub fixes the problem20:05
penguin42I wonder if it doesn't have a great idea about the amount of power avilable20:05
rleedspenguin42, actually...unplugging it and plugging it back into the laptop directly fixed it too.20:05
BUGabundoBluesKaj: I don't understand the question20:05
rleedspenguin42, heh...oh well. I guess I have no problem.20:06
rleedsnext question...did gdmsetup disappear?20:06
BUGabundodinner and a reboot20:06
BUGabundoI hop20:06
BluesKajBUGabundo, the email alternative20:07
billybigriggerhey all20:12
casinaroyaleMy sound behaves absolutely weirdly in Karmic20:14
casinaroyaleI run pulseaudio20:14
penguin42define weirdly20:14
casinaroyaleif I reduce the volume, it seems to increase20:15
penguin42oh - that is weird20:15
casinaroyaleif I reduce the volume below half, I get static20:15
penguin42If I mute I get static20:15
casinaroyaleRhythmbox plays for a while, and suddenly starts giving static20:15
casinaroyaleya, its really weird20:15
penguin42I've seen that one before (in Jaunty)20:16
casinaroyaleThere was a tutorial in ubuntu forums to configure pulseaudio in Jaunty. I had followed that and configured it.20:16
casinaroyaleIt seems to crash completely unpredictably20:17
penguin42casinaroyale: There seems to be a whole bunch of sound issues that are causing lots of people problems - it's why I gave up on Jaunty - although Karmic gives me much more of a mix of problems :-)20:18
casinaroyalepenguin42: You gave up Jaunty for Karmic?20:18
casinaroyaleMe too. Doesnt seem to improve the things anyway :)20:19
penguin42no :-(20:19
penguin42I know there is alot of work going on trying to nail the audio issues though - in the mean time it's a bit of a PITA20:19
casinaroyalewhats PITA?20:20
casinaroyaleBTW Is there anyway, we can report these issues, with a trace or something?20:21
penguin42casinaroyale: One thing that helped me was to change the default-sample-rate in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf to 48000 rather than 44100 (I think my card prefers 48k) - don't know if it would help you20:21
casinaroyalepenguin42: Were you randomly tweaking around?20:22
penguin42casinaroyale: If you think it's appropriate then bug 345627 might be relavent20:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 345627 in linux "Crackling / scratching noise using Pulseaudio" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/34562720:22
penguin42but there are a bunch of similar bugs - and I don't believe that's a fix20:23
casinaroyalepenguin42: Is your clock also behaving weirdly?20:24
penguin42not that I've noticed - but I have had a couple of weird cases where the machine screen blanked (came back when I hit space) - which made me wonder if there was a time problem - what you seeing ?20:25
casinaroyaleMy time changes to some random some time, everytime I boot20:25
casinaroyaleEven if I set it to the right time20:25
penguin42oh that's wacky20:25
casinaroyaleubuntu has become PITA lately20:26
casinaroyaleespecially with Karmic20:26
penguin42well Karmic is very early - it's meant to be buggy!20:26
penguin42although tbh I wouldn't mind a release which is almost entirely bug fixes20:27
billybigriggeranyone here using a webcam? with the new 2.6.31 kernel?20:27
ubuntuI've been trying to install the July 2nd nightly build of Kubuntu, but, i'm getting errors in /usr/share/ubiquity/install.py after formatting takes place. Anyone else seen this?20:29
billybigriggerlots of people20:29
casinaroyalepenguin42: Looks like the time problem is solved by an update today :)20:29
ubuntuis there a fix?20:29
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casinaroyaleHow to be an official tester for Karmic?20:31
Daskreechcasinaroyale: Install it20:31
enixor is there an ongoing discussion with regard to the kubuntu installer issue?20:31
casinaroyaleDaskreech: Installed it. Now what?20:32
Daskreechthen  make the testing official :)20:32
casinaroyaleDaskreech: I have been facing a lot of problems with it. I would love to be able to report20:32
casinaroyaleHow to make testing official?20:32
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots20:33
Le-Chuck_ITAHey, who said the new gdm is ugly! It's wonderful!20:35
casinaroyaleDaskreech:  Do I have to register at launchpad for that?20:35
Daskreechcasinaroyale: yessir20:35
Daskreechor mam >_>20:35
BUGabundocan't report the nvidia bug :((20:47
BUGabundoapport fails to send to LP20:47
billybigriggeri've been having problems trying to file a a bug against .3120:47
BUGabundopenguin42: refuses to open Firefox20:48
billybigriggerBUGabundo::: what kernel?20:48
penguin42BUGabundo: Disagreement with ff3.5?20:48
billybigriggerand whats your prob again? im rockin pretty solid over here with 185.18.14 and the new 2.6.31 kernel20:49
BUGabundopenguin42: 3.620:49
BUGabundobillybigrigger: videos have HUE at -100020:49
billybigriggeroh ya THAT bug20:49
billybigrigger:P PITA20:49
BUGabundois it on lp?20:50
billybigriggerwell if i look in nvidia xserver settings my hue is at 020:50
billybigriggerbut in vlc its -100020:50
billybigriggerno, im getting it too, i thought you were having problems compiling nvidia with the new kernel20:50
BUGabundoat least 4 ppl reported it here20:50
billybigriggerya i've seen a few peeps20:51
BUGabundodamn slow network20:51
billybigriggersame with the daily kubuntu builds not getting past partitioning on installs20:51
BUGabundoguess I'll have to use my 3G dongle20:51
billybigriggeri don't think anyone's reported that one yet20:51
BUGabundouploading at 1k20:51
BUGabundobillybigrigger: ahahah better let a friend know! he was going to install it tonight20:51
penguin42Had a really wacky X crash last week - whole screen collapsed in a set of flashing horizontal blocks20:52
billybigriggerA2 cd/dvd's are good afiak20:52
billybigriggeraren't they?20:52
billybigriggerjust upgrade from them, no need to get the daily20:52
billybigriggerpenguin42::: too much acid it sounds like20:52
penguin42billybigrigger: Yeh20:53
BUGabundobillybigrigger: but dailies are soooo guud20:53
billybigriggeri can honestly say i've never tried a daily20:53
oldude67how do i switch from gdm to kdm now that gdm is hosed?20:54
casinaroyaleUbuntu has not updated the name of a city (Kolkata). It still appears to have the old name(Calcutta) in my clock20:54
penguin42is there anyway I can persuade apt to upgrade some packages even though there is a broken package installed without removing it?20:54
BUGabundoI tried way too many20:54
BUGabundoeven this laptop was installed 14 months ago with 8.04 daily20:55
BUGabundooldude67: it is ??20:55
BUGabundooldude67: $ sudo dpkg--reconfigure kdm20:55
oldude67mine is after todays update20:55
BUGabundooldude67: $ sudo dpkg --reconfigure kdm20:55
BUGabundomine is working20:55
BUGabundojust loggein twice20:55
BUGabundopenguin42: what does aptitude say?20:55
billybigriggergdm is g2g here20:56
BUGabundoand yes, --force20:56
penguin42BUGabundo: It tells me that gitk and libgtk2.0-bin are broken; I know that and accept that but it means I can't update anything else20:58
BUGabundopenguin42: aptitude will NOT break your system20:59
BUGabundounlike UM20:59
BUGabundoor synaptic20:59
penguin42BUGabundo: My problem is I don't want it to fix gitk or libgtk2.0-bin either20:59
oldude67ah new update hosed my libpannel-applet. configuring it now see if it will work/20:59
BUGabundonvidia apport report upload at 2%21:01
SeveredCrossI wonder if anyone's filed a 100papercuts bug about requiring a password to unmount CD's in Karmic.21:03
SeveredCrossFucking DeviceKti.21:03
penguin42BUGabundo: My problem is that the gitk package is broken - so I forced it (and it works) - I don't want it to unstall it; and the gtk2 packages crash stuff, so I put the older versions in - but that brakes some dependencies21:04
BUGabundo!language SeveredCross21:04
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:04
BUGabundo!language | SeveredCross21:04
ubottuSeveredCross: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:04
penguin42SeveredCross: DeviceKit was working well for me a couple of weeks ago21:04
BUGabundopenguin42: why not use ALL at current version?21:04
SeveredCrosspenguin42: It's required me to enter my password to unmount CD's since day one. :|21:04
BUGabundodon't see anyone else complainng21:04
penguin42BUGabundo: Because the current versions are broken21:05
BUGabundoSeveredCross: yeah lots of bugs with devicekit21:05
BUGabundoSeveredCross: cd, usb devices, even CPU scalling21:05
BUGabundopenguin42: for whom?21:05
penguin42devicekit disks was doing wonderful things ~2 weeks ago - it was letting me mount my crypt directory through the gui for the first time21:05
penguin42BUGabundo: See bug 39139821:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 391398 in gtk+2.0 "Applications segfault with gtk+ version 2.17.2 when selecting listbox values" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39139821:05
SeveredCrossAll that stuff works fine, but unmount disks doesn't.21:06
SeveredCrossI'm considering hotkeying running eject and making eject suid root so I don't need to run it w/ sudo.21:06
penguin42BUGabundo: Can you tell me what version of libgtk2.0-0 you have? Are you running 64bit or 32?21:08
BUGabundo64 bits21:09
BUGabundo!info libgtk2.0-021:09
ubottulibgtk2.0-0 (source: gtk+2.0): The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.17.2-0ubuntu2 (karmic), package size 2413 kB, installed size 6120 kB21:09
BUGabundopenguin42:   Installed: 2.17.2-0ubuntu221:09
penguin42ok, thanks21:09
penguin42yeh that's the one that caused me problems - I suspect it only does it for some depending on some other piece of config - but as you can see there are quite a few people hitting that21:10
ubottuA schedule of Karmic Koala (9.10) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule21:11
BUGabundocan you guys confirm Kubuntu instaler broken ??21:13
BUGabundobillybigrigger: ^^^^^^^^^21:13
billybigriggeri can't21:14
billybigriggerthere's been lots of problems21:14
* penguin42 hasn't tried a fresh install21:14
billybigriggerjust going by word of mouth21:14
* BUGabundo joins penguin42, with a 18 old alpha install21:15
BUGabundobillybigrigger: no LP bug?21:16
billybigriggeri don't think anyones filed it, no21:16
ubuntui can confirm the kubuntu installer is broker21:23
BUGabundook ubuntulog21:29
BUGabundohe left21:29
billybigriggeri've seen lots of people complain about it, no one reports it though21:39
BUGabundoI'll let my friend crash and burn21:41
oldude67seen lots of people complain about what?21:41
BUGabundohe uses Mac21:41
BUGabundobtw any idea what to do with grub to install k/ubuntu on external usb disc on Mac???21:41
oldude67ok dumb question why did the update today get rid of my gnome desktop all together i had to reinstall it.21:43
BUGabundooldude67: how did you upgrade?21:44
oldude67bugabundo sudo apt-get update21:44
BUGabundooldude67: that only refreshs apt DB21:45
BUGabundodist-upgrade is the one you need21:45
BUGabundobetter yet; Update-manager21:45
BUGabundoor aptitude21:45
BUGabundooldude67: please pastebin apt logs21:46
BUGabundoor is it dpkg? I never know21:46
oldude67so i should of used sudo aptitude Update-manager?21:46
BUGabundoSystem->administration->Update Manager21:47
BUGabundo$ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitute safe-upgrade21:47
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oldude67ah ok , well that will keep me from fubarring it again..ty21:47
lwellsGuess cant download karmic right now?21:48
oldude67get out handy dandy dumb things not to do again notebook and right this down..ugh:(21:48
guntbertlwells: why not?21:49
lwellsi tried the link to it, not working right now21:49
BUGabundolwells: why?21:49
BUGabundooldude67: ppl have to learn some how21:49
BUGabundobut that should nt hava happened21:49
guntbertlwells: then try the torrent or try a different mirror21:50
BUGabundo!daily | lwells21:50
ubottulwells: Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/21:50
oldude67well im not like real new to linux but hey just trying to learn anyways..21:50
oldude67the update when doing sudo apt-get update said there was like 301 packages to remove21:51
oldude67but i didnt delete them21:51
BUGabundovery very strange!!21:51
BUGabundothat would only happen in case of extreme depency breakage21:51
oldude67i think it was all of my gnome settings.21:51
BUGabundooldude67: kubutnu ?21:51
BUGabundothen yes!21:52
BUGabundoit COULD happen21:52
BUGabundolots of changes in basic libs21:52
BUGabundoon UM DON'T do particial upgrade21:52
BUGabundonor force it on apt or synaptic21:52
BUGabundoaptitude should keep you safe!!21:52
oldude67it was a particial21:52
oldude67had xfce loaded as well , think i might have to reload it too?21:53
BUGabundooldude67: $ sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop !?!?21:54
oldude67yup it was removed as well grr....21:55
oldude67thanks Bugabundo...ill not do that again...grrr.21:56
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yofelhm... would it be possible no make gdm updates NOT kill the running session o.O21:58
BUGabundohey yofel21:59
yofelhi BUGabundo21:59
oldude67ok reboot see what happens this time..lol22:04
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dupondjewhen will firefox 3.5 become default ? :x22:18
BUGabundodupondje: do you really care??22:19
dupondjeyes :)22:20
dupondjecause search etc is not working yet atm22:20
BUGabundostop it alrigt?22:20
dupondjeand don't feel like installing 3.0 to get it back working ;)22:21
BUGabundoworks for me22:21
dupondjethe search bar ...22:21
BUGabundodo you have a LP bug ?22:21
BUGabundobtw all FF bugs/questions are on #ubuntu-mozillateam22:21
ubottuUbuntu bug 383484 in firefox-3.5 "search engine plugins missing in firefox-3.5 packages" [High,Triaged]22:22
robin0800What driver is it looking for when you try to set  visual  effects22:25
BUGabundoits triaged22:25
BUGabundoso its known22:25
BUGabundorobin0800: GPU22:25
dupondjeBUGabundo: indeed :) but needs to get fixxed ! :D22:26
yofelrobin0800: what's your graphics card?22:27
robin0800BUGabundo: mobility radeon 960022:27
BUGabundorobin0800: so when you enable 3d acelarion it tries to download a driver for your card22:28
robin0800BUGabundo: Yes but it can't because there isn't one22:29
robin0800BUGabundo: And hasn't been a restricted one since  **.o422:31
BUGabundoI never had ati so I don't know22:31
BUGabundobut I do know that there are at least 2 drivers for ati cards22:31
penguin42yeh there's a closed source one and an open one22:33
robin0800BUGabundo:  Dosen't seem to matter if you  set  "ati" or  "radeon"22:34
BUGabundono idea22:34
BUGabundoas I said I don't know about ati22:34
ghindoIs Rhythmbox misbehaving for anybody else?22:39
penguin42ghindo: For me it dies when I hit play?22:39
penguin42I had to push gtk2+ back a version to get it working again22:41
ghindoHrm.  It's chewing up processing power for me.22:42
BUGabundofirefox 3.6 full screen is broken! it won't come out of FS22:45
BUGabundoconfirmed on #-mozillateam22:45
BUGabundonow I can't get it out aaahah22:46
dupondjebtw, somebody knows a good prog to make dvd covers ? :)22:46
ghindooh god i'm trapped in fx 3.6 help me22:46
dupondjeALT+F4 ? :P22:47
BUGabundohye akgraner22:49
BUGabundodupondje: LOLOL22:49
ikus060What is the recommended way to ssubmit a bug about the resum/suspend feature ??22:58
dupondjedamn :( qpxtool is broken :(22:58
dupondjeikus060: depends, best is to make a bug against the thing that doesn't work ..22:58
dupondjeor make that suspend doesn't work well22:59
ikus060dupondje : ?? The suspend/resume doesn't work with my hardware, I'm looking for witch information I need to provide to ensure developpers have everything they need.23:00
BUGabundoikus060: $ ubuntu-bug linux23:00
BUGabundoalso read kernel team debug pages23:00
billybigriggeranyone here use awn?23:13
penguin42what is it?23:13
billybigriggeravant window manager i think23:14
billybigriggerits a dock bar23:14
billybigriggerits supposed to be the defacto dock in ubuntu23:14
billybigriggerbut it either sucks huge, or its not playing nice with karmic23:14
penguin42it is? Never heard of it23:14
BUGabundobillybigrigger: GnomeDO FTW23:14
billybigriggereff gnomedo, i don't know how to get its dock working23:15
penguin42BUGabundo: DO is interesting - although it is exactly a rip off of the Mac one23:15
billybigriggerboog, i installed it a couple of weeks ago and haven't used it once!23:15
BUGabundopenguin42: don't care23:15
BUGabundobillybigrigger: its like playing in the Lotto, and not clayming the prise!23:15
penguin42I do need to try using it more - I've got into the habit of using it for calculator, but little else23:16
BUGabundoDO is SWEET23:16
billybigriggerk how do i get the do dock then23:16
billybigriggerill toss awn right in the trash where it belongs23:16
penguin42BUGabundo: I had an odd one earlier - I logged in, and went to get a drink - when I came back the machine hadn't screen locked, but as soon as I came back, clicked the mouse - Do disappeared and then screenlocked - I do wonder if it was DO startup stopping the lock23:18
BUGabundopenguin42: DO as been a bit unstable on 0.8.223:18
BUGabundobillybigrigger: you have a skin for a dock23:18
BUGabundoits called Docky23:18
billybigriggerwell ill start testing it23:20
* billybigrigger trashes awn23:20
BUGabundothat was fast23:21
* dupondje misses descent DVDR Quality Check tool for Ubuntu :(23:21
DanaGheh, I finally figured out how to read a friggin DMG file in Linux: loop-mount it, and then run TestDisk on it!23:23
billybigriggerboog, docky seems to behave alot smoother, and i definitely prefer it, even after 5 mins of use23:29
billybigriggerboog, docky seems to behave alot smoother, and i definitely prefer it, even after 5 mins of use23:32
BUGabundonow findout how to tweak it !!!23:33
BUGabundoyou can make those icons do and look like anything  you want23:34
billybigriggerwell is it like a top panel sort of too?23:34
billybigriggeri found a few apps in there that where links23:34
billybigriggeri removed them, but they werent apps that were currently running23:35
billybigriggeri see that the bigger you make it, it just fills the dock with apps23:35
BUGabundobillybigrigger: launch shortcuts!23:35
billybigriggerrandom apps?23:35
billybigriggerwell why the hell would gnome devs do that23:35
billybigriggeri like my launch shortcuts at the top :P23:35
billybigriggerBUGabundo::: how can i find out when a package is coming into repos?23:43
billybigriggeri'm waiting for vbox 3.0 to hit repos, someone told me its in debian, so hopefully it would make its way to karmic soonish23:44
billybigriggeranyway to track it?23:44
billybigriggergeez i hate empathy23:45
billybigriggerBUGabundo1::: did you get that?23:49
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BUGabundo(11:45:09 PM) billybigrigger: geez i hate empathy23:50
billybigrigger<billybigrigger> BUGabundo::: how can i find out when a package is coming into repos?23:51
billybigrigger<billybigrigger> i'm waiting for vbox 3.0 to hit repos, someone told me its in debian, so hopefully it would make its way to karmic soonish23:51
billybigrigger<billybigrigger> anyway to track it?23:51
kenyonbillybigrigger: it's in debian, as you can see here: http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/virtualbox-ose.html23:51
billybigriggerok, so how does it make its way to karmic repos?23:51
billybigriggermotu needs to pacakge it for ubuntu first?23:51
billybigriggerthen upload to where?23:51
kenyonbillybigrigger: you can subscribe there. I don't see any way to subscribe to launchpad's publishing history, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose23:52
billybigriggerlaunchpad only had 2.2423:52
kenyonbillybigrigger: the package needs to be synced from debian23:52
billybigriggerno entries for 3.023:52
kenyonbillybigrigger: karmic is already past debian import freeze though: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule23:54
billybigriggeri missed that23:55
kenyonbillybigrigger: that doesn't necessarily mean it won't be imported stil23:55
billybigriggerwho can i bug the piss out of to get the ball rolling?23:56
kenyonbillybigrigger: don't know, it's maintained by MOTU23:57
kenyonbillybigrigger: I suppose you could file a bug requesting a sync from debian for 3.0, and give reasons23:57
billybigriggerthere is a bug filed23:57
kenyonbillybigrigger: I see... https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/39418823:58
ubottuUbuntu bug 394188 in virtualbox-ose "update to VirtualBox 3" [Wishlist,In progress]23:58
billybigriggerits got to do with the networking modules, they don't compile with the 2.6.31 kernel23:58
billybigriggervbox runs fine23:59
kenyonbillybigrigger: bug says "in progress"23:59
billybigriggerahh yeah23:59
billybigriggermissed that :P23:59

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