[00:05] I tried to install Karmic, but it just goes to tty, is x server not ready yet? [00:06] I just downloaded the iso and tried to install from dvd [00:06] NetLarIrvine: humm prob a miss match between kernel .31 and your GPU driver not yet available [00:07] bummer [00:07] So no way to get into x server then? [00:07] NetLarIrvine: what video card do you have ? [00:07] nvidia 8200 [00:07] g force [00:07] NetLarIrvine: you could also use the vesa driver [00:07] NetLarIrvine: you can rsync the next DVD and it should be fixed [00:08] or use the low resolution mode, and update for the missing modules [00:08] they just hit the repo [00:08] so you had just the worse luck on the DVD image [00:09] how do i rsync to the DVD [00:09] You mean burn a new one? [00:10] BuGabundo: it does not give me the option to use low resolution mode [00:10] NetLarIrvine: with rsync I can just download the missing packages for your iso [00:10] BUT, yes you may need to burn a new DVD [00:11] or put it on an USB flash pen [00:11] k lost here, how can I add to the iso for the missing packages [00:13] Maybe I am not ready to be helping with testing on Karmic [00:13] a sec please [00:13] I am such a NoOb [00:14] rsync -vvhhP --stats rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/dvd/current/karmic-dvd-i386.iso [00:14] if you run this from where u have the dvd image [00:14] it should coplete it [00:15] but remember, DVDs are only built every 3 days [00:15] while CDs are daily [00:15] ok, let me try that [00:18] Well it did something , not sure anything happened [00:19] eheh [00:19] nothing will [00:19] since you should have the SAME dvd iamge [00:19] It did not change the iso image? [00:21] if it is the same NO [00:21] ahh [00:21] Well I just downloaded it today [00:22] ehehe [00:22] I said it takes 3 days [00:23] For updates [00:23] Ok, I get it now, sorry [00:23] So for now, there is nothing I can do about installing Karmic [00:24] humm low resolution *should* work [00:25] It did not even give me the option of going into low res mode [00:25] cwillu: ping are you here? can you help NetLarIrvine ? [00:26] can someone help me my hard drive partation is mess up and its suppose to be two partations only heres my remote desktop access vnc://ASUS.local::5900 [00:27] :D [00:27] Ok, well I am on the Install or Live screen, is there something I can do from here? [00:27] Maybe use Safe Graphics Mode? [00:29] maybe [00:29] Trying it now, lets see === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [00:38] BUGabundo::: you get your nvidia working with 2.6.31? [00:44] Hey my problem too? [00:45] and whats your problem? [00:45] I am trying to get it to work in graphics safe mode [00:45] I am trying just to install [00:45] have you tried the livecd? [00:45] I am using it now [00:45] But installing on a seperate partition === SEJeff is now known as SEJeff_away [00:46] Anyone else have X hangs? [00:46] so your livecd won't install? [00:47] Well went right to installing it, i am in middle of process now [00:48] billybigrigger: haven't rebooted yet [00:49] NetLarIrvine::: so whats the problem? [00:49] your install is working yes? [00:50] Well I tried a regular install, it only went to tty [00:50] BUGabundo: You are the most prolific user of identi.ca ? [00:50] So now I am trying to do a install in safe graphics mode [00:50] instructor: :) [00:51] #1 [00:51] BUGabundo so far so good [00:51] Not sure yet if I have mess up the partitions [00:52] it got hung up right in middle of the partition process, had to start over [00:55] This is just an experiment box anyway, So I can just start over [00:55] I just want to learn [00:57] NetLarIrvine: eheh [00:57] and remember to file bugs too [00:58] instructor: you up there? ping me [00:59] yes i know that [00:59] I am going to try to the right things [00:59] BUGabundo: upwhere? [00:59] Yes I'm awake [01:00] instructor: identic [01:00] ah right [01:02] BUGabundo: Pung [01:03] LOL [01:04] * BUGabundo caminha [01:30] Does anyone know which is tha latest working daily live cd for Kubuntu ? [01:31] The installer crashes after partitioning the disk. [01:34] hmm [01:34] NetLarIrvine::: was having a similar problem i think during install [01:35] it got hung up right in middle of the partition process, had to start over [01:35] hi all. where does the source of the kernel sit on the dir map? [01:36] I want apply a patch [01:37] I want apply a patch called "net-remove-COMPAT_NET_DEV_OPS.patch" [01:37] anyone? [01:38] billybigrigger, I might just try the NetInstall [01:38] should be /usr/src [01:38] Zorix: thx. checking now [01:39] probably isnt there by default... but I havent built a kernel in Ubuntu so I dont know for sure [01:40] pushrax, Is that patch for intel NIC? [01:40] It might be in the recent kernel patch that Ubuntu released either today or yesterday [01:40] Zorix: not totally sure, but it said to remove obsolete networking api's [01:42] I'm fairly new to this patching thingy. I can see that I need to some how symbolic link the patch directories tot he new kernel dir [01:43] Virtualbox wont work on latest kernel otherwise [01:43] brb [01:43] oh [01:43] supposed to support 2.6.31 I read [01:59] vbox 3.0 supports .31 [02:00] 2.2 doesn't [02:14] pl thanks. will look into upgrading to vb3 [02:14] not in repos yet [02:15] k [02:15] well you can go ahead and install it outside of repos, just don't let bugabundo know [02:15] :P he gets offended when you install software outside of the repos :P [02:15] hehee [02:16] which makes sense though, in a dev cycle, you should test bugs for ubuntu's repos, as you won't be able to file bugs against a package that's not inside of repos i don't think, you'd have to file to vbox itself [02:23] if gdm was built 10 hours ago how come its still being held back for me? [02:23] gdm: [02:23] Installed: 2.20.10-0ubuntu5 [02:23] Candidate: 2.26.1-0ubuntu1 [02:31] anyone having problems with the new kernel and gspca? [02:32] webcam problems [02:32] ? [02:32] i know it worked yesterday and after upgrading to 2.6.31 today i get this while doing $ tail -f /var/log/syslog [02:32] Jul 2 19:31:39 cabo kernel: [11502.374422] gspca: usb_submit_urb [0] err -28 [02:32] Jul 2 19:31:39 cabo kernel: [11502.398542] ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: leak ed ffff88003781f2d0 (#81) state 2 [02:32] I don't run cams myself. [02:39] billybigrigger: Because it breaks ubunut-desktop. === dmb_ is now known as dmb [02:40] gdm? [02:44] billybigrigger: yes. [02:58] Well just found out one thing [02:59] You cannot seem to install Karmic and have it work as a dual boot [03:00] I installed Jaunty and then installed Karmic, and now only Karmic is on the Grub list [03:03] Can I do bug fixes and get involved with Jaunty? [03:08] dual booting what? [03:08] actually it don't matter [03:08] try this.... [03:08] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Dual-booting [03:09] $ sudo apt-get install --reinstall libdebian-installer4 [03:09] $ sudo os-prober [03:09] $ sudo update-grub [03:09] Well I was thinking of just doing it in vm now [03:10] like virtual box [03:11] That way, if it goes wrong, I would just reinstall on the vm [03:14] ya i tried that [03:14] i barely use the vm anymore [03:14] why not [03:14] i find it easier to test things on the machine i use constantly [03:14] ahhh [03:14] well i dont run irc, empathy, music player/video player in the vm [03:15] no point of running a development release if you never use it to find bugs :P [03:15] Yea but I could put Karmic on there to do testing only [03:15] oh ok, I see your point [03:15] i use it if there's a known show stopping bug [03:15] But there are still bugs in Jaunty to work out too right? [03:16] and i'll upgrade the vm and get it sorted before i upgrade my host [06:23] Hi, I'm just trying to update karmic and I'm getting "the following packages will be removed: fast-user-switch-applet ubuntu-desktop". I guess I shouldn't update, right? [06:24] (it also says that some other packages, like the kernel and the nvidia drivers, will be updated) [06:32] Where is OpenOffice installed by default? [06:34] dpkg -L openoffice.org-core [06:43] if i upgrade to karmic through update manager can i degrade? [06:46] no. [06:46] ok [06:57] Appareantly, updating gdm also uninstalls ubuntu-desktop and fast-user-switch-applet. [06:58] Did the usplash just went away in the latest Karmic update? [07:36] oh yeah, still no keycode>255 support on the xinput2 PPA. [08:07] I downloaded the alpha2 desktop cd and it boots up a "boot:" prompt. [08:07] o.O [08:42] root@workwakko:~# /etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 start [08:42] Starting K Display Manager: kdm-kde4start-stop-daemon: stat /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kdm: No such file or directory (No such file or directory) [08:42] anyone know how to fix this? [08:50] bushwakko: Um, since Hardy (I think) kdm-kde4 *replaced* kdm, so the proper call should be /etc/init.d/kdm start, which should in turn start /usr/bin/kdm [08:52] ok [08:52] so kdm-kde4 should be deleted? [08:52] but kdm doesn't seem to be able to start kde4 [08:52] Hi. I'm using Karmic. for me its impossible to resume to gnome session. The gnome-screensaver doesn't accept my password. I tryed it several times. the only way back in is to kill the screensaver. any ideas? [08:52] I have to sudo -s and do startx [08:53] bushwakko: well, I'd try to reinstall kdm and see what happens. That's the iffy thing with upgrading, things get superseded and you're stuck with the old stuff [08:53] bushwakko: sudo aptitude reinstall kdm [09:55] how do I get ps to linewrap btw? [10:49] Any news on when firefox-3.5 becomes default for Karmic? [10:49] I vote for that. [10:50] Encourage webdesigners to use the new open media standards [10:50] :D [11:31] heh, best motherboard name ever: [11:31] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/346505 [11:31] Ubuntu bug 346505 in linux "[To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M.] suspend/resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" [Undecided,Incomplete] [11:32] yeah... that's the DMI data in that tag. [11:33] bad QA department o.O === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:39] still no nouveau driver for 2.6.31 ? [12:26] bug 240553 [12:26] Launchpad bug 240553 in linux "evbug.c spams logs and causes high system loads" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/240553 [12:26] Nobody seems to have noticed that this is also a SECURITY FLAW. [12:26] ... just like having a world-readable keylogger. [12:28] explain [12:30] evbug spews lots of lines giving every keycode you press. [12:30] :O [12:30] Check your own dmesg to see if you have "evbug" lines. [12:31] Basically, it's a keycode debugger thingy... but should never be automatically loaded. Ever. [12:31] Oh, and i915 is randomly loading, even though I don't have any such hardware. [12:38] argh, 2.6.31 kernel removed find_task_by_vpid symbol that fglrx needs. [12:38] and xinput2 PPA has missing symbol DPMSEnabledSwitch [12:43] 'morning [12:45] How do I get fglrx working in 9.10? [12:49] goddamn Intel driver keeps randomly loading, and getting in the way of fglrx! [12:50] I don't HAVE an Intel video chip! [12:58] wow... apparently my Karmic was 32-bit... and I thought it was a 64-bit partition. [12:58] Damn. [12:58] I must've used the wrong CD. [12:59] My screen is wrongly recognized with the 2.6.31 kernel, I now get wrong native res and the max res is 1280x1024 while it should be 1600x1200 [13:06] Zorael: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/394492 <-- seems to be related to this [13:06] Ubuntu bug 394492 in linux "2.6.31 KMS fails to use correct resolution" [Undecided,New] [13:06] Zorael: sorry, that was't specifically for you [13:11] anyone know if there is a kernel-build with this patched available somewhere? [13:15] bushwakko: same thing happened for me on an Intel chip: used a mode that the monitor can't handle, though. [13:15] oh, and separate issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/268863 [13:15] Ubuntu bug 268863 in grub-installer "Ubuntu doesn't install on bootable SD-card" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [13:37] after doing a partial upgrade it asks if you want to keep or remove certain packages is it ok to keep them? [13:39] cause it is asking for a reboot and i fear i may have fubar'd the system... :0/o [13:43] does anyone know where the equivalent of /usr/sbin/gsmsetup has gone to in Karmic? [13:43] /usr/sbin/gdmsetup (sorry) [13:46] great no fubar...yeah..:D [13:48] can't enable desktop effects now after todays updates [13:49] running intel celeron 2.4 with intel board and desktop effects still able to use after todays updates keeping old files. [13:49] just to let everyone know.. [13:50] oldude67: think partial update removed gdm not realy sure why [13:51] yes it did, and killed splash screen [13:51] went back to oxygen [13:53] as far as desktop effects, i still have them running like explosion and such. [13:56] Heya all [13:57] In karmic, whenever I log in, the panels do not appear, instead I see the disk spinning indefinitely; if I "killall gnome-panel" then it is restarted correctly and the disk spinning stops. Did this happen to some of you? [14:03] Where has gdmsetup gone to in Karmic? It was part of GDM. I have just had a load of updates and it has given me a very annoing login window where I have to select myself and then complains about the gdm-simple-greeter. [14:04] yup thats 3 of us now. [14:05] olddude67: does that mean that gdm is screwed for the timebeing? [14:06] well not sure if it is for everyone, but atleast a few of us it is. [14:07] * maxb says "me too" on the gdm-simple-greeter session spurious popup [14:07] bother! [14:07] had more updates to add but update mangager is being stupid. [14:07] do you guys have gdmsetup (normally in /usr/sbin ? [14:07] ya mine is as simple as it comes... [14:07] gdmsetup has gone away upstream, and they haven't written a replacement yet [14:07] JMFTheVCI: I have it [14:07] ah [14:08] ok [14:17] so are we stuck with this annoying login window instead of the nice one? Is there a way to change the login window without gdmsetup? [14:21] JMFTheVCI: you could try installing gdmsetup from jaunty [14:24] I'll give it a go. [14:27] Nope. Says it can't communicate with Gnome Display Manager. [15:13] hmm, FF3.5 installs as a seperate browser ..doesn't see any of the settings, bookmarks or extns on FF3.0 [15:20] BluesKaj: it should copy the profile of 3.0 into a seperate folder for 3.5 afaik - check the contents of .mozilla/ [15:20] yofel, it's located in /usr/share/app-install/desktop/firefox-3.5.desktop [15:21] so it's not installed [15:21] when will firefox 3.5 be branded as firefox (instead of shiretoko)? [15:22] BluesKaj: what has the .desktop file of 3.5 to do with the profile? [15:23] debfx, when it's actually released, rather than in alpha/beta/whatever [15:24] yofel, that's what Im asking , kind of strange to me [15:24] elky: huh, it's already released [15:24] I think it might have imported my profile finally ..not sure [15:25] and the version in ubuntu is already at 3.5 final but still has the development branding [15:25] BluesKaj: shiroteko should copy the 3.0 profile from ~/.mozilla/firefox to ~/.mozilla/firefox-3.5 on first start so that you can use 3.0 without getting your profile messed up by 3.5 [15:26] when i lauch from the panel I'm srill getting the old FF3.0 [15:26] ok, that shouldn't happen o.O [15:27] hm, when I launch shiroteko here I get 3.5 and not 3.0 [15:27] and from the kicker menu as well [15:28] I see the settings have transferred to 3.5 now , but 3.5 isn't located in the kicker menu ..guess i have to move it and get rid of 3.0 [15:30] BluesKaj: here the launcher for 3.5 is called 'Shiroteko Web Browser' and not firefox-3.5 [15:31] it finally shows up as 'Shiroteko Web Browser' in the kicker [15:33] is anyone else having pain today? [15:33] in the cli : sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser shows it as firefox - /usr/bin/firefox-3.5 [15:34] e.g. getting kicked out of the session randomly, and gdm problems? [15:34] solarion, yeah, plasma keeps crasshing and recovering every 10 mins or so here [15:35] I don't get kicked out at all [15:35] :( [15:35] I can't find any errors anywhere to figure out what's breaking [15:36] solarion: Xorg.0.log/ [15:36] yofel: is of no help [15:36] :( [15:36] besides, it'd be /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, because X restarts [15:38] Haven't done todays updates yet here [15:39] ~/.xsession-errors log got anything? [15:41] looks like stuff freaking out that X disappeared [15:41] XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0" after 18852 requests (18851 known processed) with 0 events remaining. [15:42] that's the first X-related message [15:43] hmmm, seems like 18000 requests should be running out of memory maybe? [15:43] Are you sure X is starting at all? [15:44] Is what I'm using to talk to you right now, so yes. :) [15:44] oh :-) [15:45] is perhaps DPMS-related [15:58] hmm, there's a drm update; perhaps that'll fix it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:32] hey guys. i am not sure how to describe my issue for a bug ticket. Not sure if its reported or not. Basically, my soundcard makes my system make this loud "click" everytime I open an application thats using sound, or close one. This is using most up-to-date karmic. Has anyone seen this before? Can anyone help me put it in more technical terms :) [16:34] quick q: anyone know if kerberos support for cifs is going into karmic? [16:35] derekS, open systemsettings/notifications/player settings tab, choose "no audio output" [16:39] BluesKaj: "systemsettings"? in gnome? [16:47] derek well this is kubuntu , maybe the ppl at #ubuntu can help you , gnome settings are different than kde [16:52] derekS, see the post above [16:52] BluesKaj: this is ubuntu+1 :) [16:52] :D:D [16:52] oops sry , can't keep track of my chats :) [16:53] * BluesKaj backs off and has lunch === akgraner_ is now known as akgraner [16:55] :-D [16:57] anyone with mysql issues ? trying to overwrite `/usr/sbin/mysqld', which is also in package mysql-server-core-5.1 [17:19] hi, could someone confirm that karmic does not load a custom DSDT thru initramfs? [17:24] hi [17:24] i am probing karmic with KDE [17:25] my user is not in sudoers so i canot use sudo or kdesudo [17:30] exit [17:30] Is there any investigation as tot the gtk+ problem in current Karmic? [17:34] could someone confirm that karmic does not load custom DSDT.aml ? [17:46] The alpha2 iso does not boot on my virtual, or a physical machine. It goes to the boot: prompt [17:48] scream: try the latest daily image, then. [17:48] !daily [17:48] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [18:50] hey [18:50] any one has two volume applets? [18:55] BUGabundo: Nope, just the one [18:55] strange [18:55] I have the old and the new one [18:55] darn [18:55] I'm about a week or so behind though; because of the gtk+2 bug I've had to roll it back to 2.17.0 and it's stopping anything else from upgrading [18:57] ahhhh [18:57] it's a bit of a pita bug [19:22] I found a weird issue that when I try to play movies with totem-gstreamer, the colors are messed up. i looked on launchpad, saw no bugs, anyone else notice it? [19:24] derekS: nvidia? [19:24] BUGabundo: ya [19:24] its HUE set to -1000 [19:24] BUGabundo: how do i know/ [19:24] start nvidia and set HUE to 0 [19:25] derekS: I have the same bug on every movie I start [19:25] not sure if it is reported [19:25] BUGabundo: nvidia-settings? [19:25] but if it isn't I'll do it! I'm very low on my bug quote this cycle :) [19:25] cwillu: do you have a bug for this? [19:25] derekS: yes [19:26] BUGabundo: do you use twinview or xinerama? [19:26] err [19:26] I don't know! LOL have to check [19:27] I'm now on single mon [19:27] BUGabundo: where are the hue settings? i can't find it :) [19:27] nm found it [19:27] :) [19:27] xserver xvideo settings [19:27] yeah found it [19:29] BUGabundo: that worked [19:29] weird [19:30] derekS: only prob: you need to do that EVERY time you start a video [19:30] :(((( [19:30] HAHA [19:31] let me file that [19:35] * BUGabundo does $ ubuntu-bug nvidia-glx-180 [19:41] now that FF3.5 is my default browser any tips on getting it to link to the web from thunderbird , there's no "network.protocol-handler.app.http" default in about:config in thunderbird edit/prefernces. [19:41] BluesKaj: what does alternatives say? [19:42] im thru with fooling around with kmail's quirks [19:42] ahh [19:42] kmail? [19:42] then you need systemsettings [19:42] I'm not going with kmail [19:43] i need to edit thunderbird , but the latest version doesn't seem to have a default brwser setting [19:44] I think this is a systemwide-ism for default browser that's doing it [19:44] (Is anyone else finding the 3.5 a bit sluggish compared with 3.0 on URL entry and lookup of the history?) [19:44] the global settings aren't working in thunderbird penguin42 [19:45] oh, unfortunate [19:45] yeah, it's not as fast as I thought it should be [19:47] trying a crazy thing: NM trunk 0.8 alpha woot. if I crash and burn, blame @asac [19:47] BUGabundo, what can alternatives do for my prob ? [19:48] BluesKaj: ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam [19:48] penguin42: that's galternatives [19:48] BluesKaj: what does alternatives say? [19:49] I have the alternitives gui up , but i don't see any firefox or thunderbird options [19:50] bbiab , gotta check the postbox [19:50] BluesKaj: Duh!! x-www [19:57] Anyone else have a problem with their usb mouse going idle and being disabled really quickly? [19:58] nope [19:59] Hmm [19:59] not had that; I do seem to have gained a problem with a keyboard (PS/2 on a USB converter) not starting up at power on - I have to unplug it and plug it back in [19:59] Where should I start looking for the cause of this mouse problem? Is there some acpi thing that might be aggresively powering down my usb devices? [20:00] rleeds: Do you see any messages in dmesg when it goes? [20:00] penguin42, nope [20:00] BUGabundo,alternatives x-www browser = /usr/bin/firefox3.5 [20:01] rleeds: Does it still show up in lsusb ? [20:01] BluesKaj: something like that! I just use galternatives [20:01] penguin42, simpling running lsusb wakes it up again. [20:01] so yes [20:02] wacky [20:02] yes..it is. It's approximately 3 seconds after I stop moving it until the light goes off and I need to click in order for it to come alive again. Running lsusb does the trick. [20:03] I wonder if it's a hardware problem with my mouse? [20:03] it could be - what type is it? [20:03] basic logitech wheel mouse [20:03] odd, what else you got plugged in to the USB port? [20:04] BUGabundo, what's the option for email app default in alternatives ? [20:04] a hub with attached sound card and a keyboard...I'l try unplugging them [20:04] rleeds: Is it a powered hub? [20:04] penguin42, it has a power plug, but I don't use it powered [20:04] the mouse is plugged in directly [20:05] huh...plugging it into the hub fixes the problem [20:05] I wonder if it doesn't have a great idea about the amount of power avilable [20:05] penguin42, actually...unplugging it and plugging it back into the laptop directly fixed it too. [20:05] BluesKaj: I don't understand the question [20:06] penguin42, heh...oh well. I guess I have no problem. [20:06] next question...did gdmsetup disappear? [20:06] dinner and a reboot [20:06] bbl [20:06] I hop [20:07]