[08:27] <selinuxium> hi all. I just created a symlink within the My Files folder for my Documents folder. nothing happened to sync...
[08:43] <tcole> symlinks aren't supported at this time
[08:45] <Nafallo> the reverse should work surely?
[08:45] <Nafallo> (just throwing in a work around)
[11:08] <selinuxium> Hi Nafallo, Happy Birthday!
[11:10] <Nafallo> selinuxium: too late ;-)
[11:12] <selinuxium> Nafallo: I know, but still.... Happy Birthday! Surely you are continuing the festivities tonight?  :)
[11:13] <Nafallo> selinuxium: hopefully not. couldn't tell if I was sober or not when I woke up :-P
[11:13] <Nafallo> selinuxium: anyway. thanks :-)
[11:13] <ajmitch> Nafallo: surely sobriety is optional? :)
[11:14] <ajmitch> just remind me never to use any server you admin :)
[11:14] <Nafallo> ajmitch: depends what your tasks for the day are ;-)
[11:14] <Nafallo> ajmitch: ehrm.. like stratos? :-P
[11:14] <ajmitch> uh oh
[11:15] <ajmitch> you probably saw that syklone is larger now
[13:43] <jdobrien> Hello Ubuntu One'eers!
[13:50] <jdobrien> Check the over-night log for #ubuntuone and deal with any issues
[14:21] <jdobrien> hello everyone...there are some package issues with the nightlies as I understand it
[14:21] <jdobrien> so if you get the nightlies (unstable-hot-off-the-press version) you're broken like me
[15:00] <vds> Standup Meeting time!
[15:00] <vds> me
[15:02] <vds> aquarius teknico urbanape jblount
[15:02] <aquarius> me
[15:02] <vds> CardinalFang:
[15:03] <teknico> me
[15:03] <jdobrien> me... what's going on? this is my first day
[15:04] <aquarius> jdobrien: desktop+ team standup :)
[15:04] <jdobrien> oh ok
[15:04] <jdobrien> i'll watch :)
[15:04] <vds> :)
[15:04] <vds> who's missing?
[15:04] <aquarius> everyone. :)
[15:04] <aquarius> urbanape is on holiday today
[15:04] <jdobrien> national holiday for US today
[15:04] <aquarius> I assume most Americans are. jdo's just super-dedicated ;)
[15:04] <teknico> jblount and CardinalFang too, I guess
[15:05] <vds> ah
[15:05] <vds> of course!
[15:05] <CardinalFang> jo!
[15:05] <CardinalFang> me
[15:05] <vds> so that's going to be a very quick standup meeting
[15:05] <aquarius> just the three of us...we can make it if we try...just the three of us...you and I (and teknico)
[15:05] <vds> shall I start?
[15:05] <jdobrien> aquarius: some silly think about independence from England
[15:05] <teknico> four now
[15:05] <teknico> now four, for now
[15:05] <teknico> four for now
[15:06] <vds> DONE: added tests for view in phone verification branch...on it's way for review now
[15:06] <vds> TODO: on-call review
[15:06] <vds> BLOCKED: no
[15:06] <vds> next aquarius
[15:06] <aquarius> jdobrien: one year when you're all sittin' there drinkin' beer and celebratin' we're gonna come and take it back. :)
[15:06] <aquarius> DONE: landed uber-branch for records API; worked with urbanape on FF extension; defined CouchDB "management" database; fixed lsof being broken on jdo's machine
[15:06] <aquarius> TODO: finish FF extension ready for GCDS demos; write up
[15:06] <aquarius> BLOCKED: still using the horror of lsof to find CouchDB port until the print-the-port logfile patch goes in
[15:06] <aquarius> It's teknico, he rounds the last defender, teknico, still teknico, he shoots, GOOOOOOOAL!
[15:06] <jdobrien> aquarius: you can have it if you pay our Bills to China
[15:06] <teknico> DONE: more work on the web ui interface for resetting contact devices
[15:06] <teknico> TODO: making the web ui interface for resetting contact devices work
[15:06] <teknico> BLOCKED: nothing
[15:06] <teknico> NEXT: CardinalFang
[15:06] <teknico> aquarius, shut up
[15:07] <CardinalFang> Er, I'm not ready anyway.  One minute.
[15:07] <vds> CardinalFang: no
[15:07] <teknico> CardinalFang, you're the last one anyway :-)
[15:07] <vds> CardinalFang: np
[15:08] <jdobrien> I completely uninstalled the client, deleted all the folders .cache/ubuntuone and /etc/xdg/ubuntuone ....
[15:08] <jdobrien> I purged ubuntuone-client and everything ubuntuone
[15:08] <jdobrien> rebooted
[15:09] <jdobrien> then apt-get install ubuntuone-client
[15:09] <jdobrien> When i start it...nothing happenes
[15:09] <jdobrien> and there is no ~/.cache/ubuntuone
[15:09] <jdobrien> no folder
[15:10] <CardinalFang> DONE: Started overhauling network code to make room for SSL.  (Not "done" in any sense.)  Pushed some more changes to branch.
[15:10] <CardinalFang> TODO: Get reviews and submit to PQM.  Probably take the day off.
[15:10] <CardinalFang> BLOCKED: None
[15:10] <CardinalFang> end?
[15:10] <vds> EOM thanks!
[15:13] <aquarius> cool, thanks vds
[15:32] <jdobrien> quiet day in the ubuntuone worl
[15:32] <jdobrien> d
[15:45] <facundobatista> Hi all
[15:55] <aquarius> jkakar: ping?
[16:04] <rmcbride> jdobrien: currently users will need to install both ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-client-gnome to get everything installed and working. I'll change the topic in a second.
[16:04] <jdobrien> rmcbride: any specific order?
[16:05] <rmcbride> jdobrien: specific order won't matter
[16:05] <rmcbride> they have some deps in common but they won't step on each otehr.
[16:05] <jdobrien> rmcbride: when i installed ubuntuone-client-gnome, python-ubuntuone-client was installed
[16:06] <rmcbride> jdobrien: yes, you need ubuntuone-client too
[16:06] <rmcbride> p-u-c is just the libraries
[16:06] <jdobrien> k
[16:06] <rmcbride> both u-c and u-c-g dep on p-u-c
[16:07] <jdobrien> rmcbride: that did not work for me
[16:07] <rmcbride> jdobrien: define "did not work"
[16:08] <jdobrien> rmcbride: install everything...open Applications>Ubuntu One> .... Nothing happens
[16:08] <jdobrien> rmcbride: also no .cache/ubuntuone folder
[16:08] <rmcbride> jdobrien: what do you get at terminal?
[16:08] <rmcbride> if you run the applet
[16:08] <jdobrien> rmcbride: how do i run the applet from the cmd line?
[16:08] <rmcbride> ubuntuone-client-applet
[16:09] <jdobrien> Traceback (most recent call last):
[16:09] <jdobrien>   File "/usr/local/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet", line 39, in <module>
[16:09] <jdobrien>     from canonical.ubuntuone.oauthdesktop.main import Login
[16:09] <jdobrien> ImportError: No module named canonical.ubuntuone.oauthdesktop.main
[16:09] <rmcbride> alternately you would logout/back in, the client doesn't start automaticallyt
[16:09] <jdobrien> import...canonical.ubuntuone.. is wrong
[16:09] <rmcbride> THAT is old
[16:09] <rmcbride> something is out of date.
[16:09] <jdobrien> there is no canonical.ubuntuone
[16:09] <rmcbride> yes
[16:09] <rmcbride> but I don't get that. Mine runs. one second.
[16:10] <jdobrien> do i need to uninstall oauthdesktop. is that it's own package now?
[16:11] <rmcbride> jdobrien: no that gets pulled in with the packages you have. Something is not rigt about your client-applet
[16:12] <jdobrien> rmcbride: hmm after uninstalling, I still have a menu item
[16:12] <rmcbride> jdobrien: you've got an old client-applet somehow. That import is correct witht he current package. Also I think yours is in the wrong spot.... which ubuntuone-client-applet has it in /usr/bin for me, not /usr/local/bin
[16:12] <rmcbride> jdobrien: that's a bug
[16:12] <rmcbride> jdobrien: and one that I haven't seen written up yet
[16:13] <rmcbride> jdobrien: do you still have ubuntuone-client-applet with the package uninstalled?
[16:13] <jdobrien> rmcbride: which package?
[16:13] <rmcbride> client
[16:13] <rmcbride> the main client one...
[16:14] <rmcbride> and gnome
[16:14] <rmcbride> client-gnome that is
[16:14] <jdobrien> john@Monolith:/usr/bin$ sudo apt-get purge ubuntuone-client
[16:14] <jdobrien> Reading package lists... Done
[16:14] <jdobrien> Building dependency tree
[16:14] <jdobrien> Reading state information... Done
[16:14] <jdobrien> Package ubuntuone-client is not installed, so not removed
[16:14] <jdobrien> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[16:14] <jdobrien> john@Monolith:/usr/bin$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/ubuntuone*
[16:14] <jdobrien> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  22K 2009-06-01 15:34 /usr/local/bin/ubuntuone-client-applet*
[16:14] <jdobrien> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5.2K 2009-06-01 15:34 /usr/local/bin/ubuntuone-syncdaemon*
[16:14] <rmcbride> jdobrien: pastebin that next time please :)
[16:14] <rmcbride> yea that stuff sh ould not be there
[16:15] <jdobrien> rmcbride: it's two lines
[16:15] <jdobrien> ok 10 lines
[16:15] <rmcbride> jdobrien: remove ubuntuone-client-gnome as well to be certain
[16:16] <jdobrien> rmcbride: same result
[16:16] <rmcbride> but the executables don't get put in that path.
[16:16] <rmcbride> you'll need to remove those manually I think
[16:16] <rmcbride> and then 'apt-get install ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-client-gnome'
[16:16] <rmcbride> jdobrien: look at the dates on those executables as well
[16:17] <rmcbride> jdobrien: june 1
[16:17] <rmcbride> way old
[16:17] <jdobrien> rmcbride: i got an oauth page!
[16:17] <jdobrien> \o/
[16:18] <rmcbride> \o/
[16:18] <jdobrien> rmcbride: ok new problem
[16:18] <jdobrien> rm i have an applet
[16:18] <rmcbride> jdobrien: ok
[16:19] <jdobrien> oops
[16:19] <jdobrien> i have an applet...it looks normal...not spinning, no disconnected decoration
[16:19] <jdobrien> the only options are connect and go to web...the "Open Folder" is greyed out
[16:19] <rmcbride> jdobrien: OK try connect
[16:20] <jdobrien> nothing
[16:20] <rmcbride> jdobrien: tail -f ~/.cache/ubuntuone/syncdaemon.log
[16:20] <jdobrien> no syncdaemon.log
[16:20] <jdobrien> rmcbride: ^^
[16:21] <rmcbride> ok open a terminal
[16:21] <jdobrien> oops
[16:21] <jdobrien> forgot the log/folder
[16:21] <rmcbride> ah
[16:21] <jdobrien> oh
[16:21] <jdobrien> still no syncdaemon
[16:21] <rmcbride> ok do /lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-synchdaemon
[16:22] <rmcbride> no h
[16:22] <verterok> jdobrien: dpkg -L ubuntuone-client && dpkg -L python-ubuntuone-client
[16:22] <jdobrien> verterok: ok
[16:23] <jdobrien> rmcbride: did you mean: /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon
[16:23] <jdobrien> rmcbride: because that got the applet running ^^
[16:24] <jdobrien> oh wow...lots of old folders files back
[16:25] <jdobrien> rmcbride: is that file in the wrong spot?
[16:25] <rmcbride> jdobrien: that's the right spot
[16:25] <jdobrien> k
[16:25] <rmcbride> jdobrien: I mistyped
[16:26] <jdobrien> well it's working now
[16:26] <jdobrien> oops
[16:26] <jdobrien> just disconnected
[16:26] <rmcbride> log?
[16:26] <jdobrien> hmm
[16:26] <jdobrien> rmcbride: it shows disconnected, but syncdaemon log is still updating
[16:27] <rmcbride> jdobrien: the applet might have issues again. After it finishes syncing, logout and back in and see if it can get daemon status correctly
[16:27] <jdobrien> rmcbride: clicked connect again and it's spinning
[16:27] <rmcbride> jdobrien: interesting
[16:28] <jdobrien> rmcbride: odd thing is...folders and files I deleted yesterday are uploading now :(
[16:28] <jdobrien> rmcbride: I didn't delete my local files
[16:28] <jdobrien> rmcbride: so now im going to upload 4.6 GB again i guess
[16:28] <rmcbride> jdobrien: hmm
[16:28] <verterok> jdobrien: that's because you deleted all the metadata
[16:28] <rmcbride> yea
[16:28] <jdobrien> rmcbride: however
[16:29] <rmcbride> that's right,, you did
[16:29] <jdobrien> rmcbride: folders/files that I deleted long ago are coming back
[16:29] <rmcbride> jdobrien: also probably because the meta data is gone. Not sure why the server would still have them
[16:29] <verterok> jdobrien: syncdaemon found the files, don't have metadata, not matching file in the server, upload them!
[16:30] <rmcbride> jdobrien: but I'm going to go shower and do holiday stuff now.
[16:30] <jdobrien> verterok: yeah i understand that about files I deleted on the web but never synced
[16:30] <jdobrien> verterok: but I see folders that I deleted on the client and had sycned months ago
[16:31] <verterok> jdobrien: that's *bad*, do you see that files in the webui?
[16:31]  * jdobrien checks
[16:31] <jdobrien> they are back now
[16:31] <jdobrien> hmm
[16:31] <verterok> jdobrien: all of them?
[16:32] <jdobrien> verterok: yes.
[16:32] <verterok> jdobrien: I think a change landed on the server that might be causing this, let me check
[16:32] <jdobrien> verterok: the Music folder, the big one. is uploading as I would expect
[16:32] <jdobrien> verterok: but the folder/files that I deleted long ago are back both in the web ui and desktop.
[16:33] <verterok> jdobrien: indeed weird
[16:33] <jdobrien> verterok: the only existing folder now has a conflict folder
[22:32] <Ng> if one is on karmic, should one use ubuntuone from the karmic repositories, or the beta ppa?
[22:33] <BUGabundo> karmic here
[22:44] <Ng> looks like the PPA has newer versions
[22:48] <verterok> Ng: as the topic says, there are some issues with the ppa packages, you need to manually install both: ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-client-gnome
[22:49]  * Ng nods
[22:51] <verterok> Ng: but you get all the bells and whistles ;)
[22:51] <Ng> I have to say it seems kinda the same as it did before ;)
[22:51] <Ng> is it more than just a packaging split?
[22:52] <verterok> Ng: bugfixes FTW!
[22:54] <verterok> Ng: basically: bring back sharing from Nautilus, and a minor improvement in the local rescan
[22:55] <Ng> aha, good good :)
[22:55] <BUGabundo> err
[22:56] <BUGabundo> coming late! what do I need in karmic to have U1 runnnig?
[22:57] <verterok> BUGabundo: if the packages are ok, the ppa, and both: ubuntuone-client and ubuntuone-client-gnome installed
[22:58] <BUGabundo> it was crashing for me on boot
[22:58] <BUGabundo> and it isn't starting verterok
[22:58] <verterok> BUGabundo: crashing how? do you have a traceback?
[22:59] <BUGabundo> $ sudo aptitude install ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-client-gnome
[22:59] <BUGabundo> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[22:59] <BUGabundo>   python-ubuntuone-client{a} python-ubuntuone-storageprotocol{a} ubuntuone-client-gnome
[22:59] <BUGabundo> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:59] <BUGabundo>   ubuntuone-storage-protocol{a}
[22:59] <BUGabundo> verterok: better: apport crash
[22:59] <BUGabundo> but let me isntall that and test again
[23:00] <verterok> ok
[23:03] <BUGabundo> verterok: fixed. now it starts
[23:03] <verterok> BUGabundo: cool!
[23:03] <BUGabundo> why didn't I get the update on its own?
[23:04] <verterok> BUGabundo: maybe the package renaming?
[23:05] <BUGabundo> still I make the same question
[23:05] <BUGabundo> why didn't I get the update on its own?
[23:09] <verterok> BUGabundo: I have no idea :)
[23:59] <stevepearce> hello all