[00:10] <kromar> man that sucks, as soon as the mixer gets loaded the volume is turned down to 0
[00:22] <kromar> how can i create a shortcut on the desktop?
[00:23] <kromar> ah got it
[00:32] <kromar> man the sound quality is terribly bad.... extreem noise in the background:(
[00:33] <lean2501> i have the "relatime,errors=remount-ro" in my "/" and "relatime" in other mount points in fstab, i want to edit them to have "noatime", because this is a netbook, and i want it to not write so much to the disk
[00:46] <kromar> ok someone has any specific information on how to fix the reboot muting of my sound and extrem noise level?
[00:47] <Joelito> kromar: using pulseaudio?
[00:47] <kromar> Joelito: whats that?
[00:49] <Joelito> kromar: ok
[00:51] <Joelito> kromar: which version of xubuntu are you using?
[00:51] <kromar> 9.04
[00:52] <Joelito> open your xfc4 configuration page
[00:53] <kromar> where is that?
[00:53] <Joelito> find audio|sound..similar..I'm using spanish version..so, maybe be little different
[00:53] <Joelito> try by the xfce menu ;)
[00:55] <kromar> the only way i can open any sound settings is with the mixer....
[00:56] <Joelito> can you change with the mixer the audio manager
[00:56] <Joelito> between alsa,pulseaudio or other
[00:57] <kromar> yes
[00:57] <Joelito> do it :)
[00:58] <kromar> done it already, always the same result
[00:58] <kromar> muted sound after reboot
[00:59] <Joelito> and volume meter in enbaled or disabled?
[00:59] <kromar> with  lspci | grep -i audio my audio device is listed as ALC889A and with  aplay -l its listed as ALC885, why is that?
[00:59] <kromar> Joelito: what volume meter?
[01:00] <Joelito> you know, that knob to increase volume =)
[01:00] <Joelito> kromar: that you are using some alsa, try to use pulseaudio
[01:12] <kromar> gona reboot and see if it works
[01:14] <kromar> nope, muted again
[01:15] <kromar> can it be that the settings arent saved correctly?
[01:17] <Joelito> kromar: Nop, I don't have problems
[01:17] <Joelito> kromar: did you install something lately
[01:18] <kromar> its a fresh install
[01:19] <Joelito> oh
[01:22] <kromar> is there a command to save the sound settings manually?
[01:23] <Joelito> kromar: don't need too, system does it for you
[01:23] <sml1226> is there a 64 bit skype? or a softphone that can call skypeids?
[01:23] <Joelito> I think the installer went wrong in some point
[01:24] <kromar> no i reinstalled it about 10 times and its the same every time, even with different installation cds
[01:25] <Joelito> kromar: oh, so..I don't know..I don't have problems with sound...
[01:25] <Joelito> try to wait someone...at least I try to help =p
[01:26] <kromar> im looking for a solution for that for some month now, i waited long enough
[01:46] <kromar> how do i get rights to change the user settings?
[01:46] <kromar> never mind....
[01:50] <kromar> man that sucks... and thats the reason why i never really made the jump to this system. always some small problems which take hours to find a solution
[01:58] <n2diy> I have a new install of 8.04 on my test box, and I can't change my keyboard layout, or move my panels around? Applications-quit doesn't work, I can't drag a terminal icon to my desktop, and who knows what else is wrong? Is this a munged install, or can I work my way out of it?
[02:27] <Ollonk> anyone here willing to give me a hand with some issues/
[02:27] <Ollonk> ?
[02:28] <Ollonk> apparently not, I'll try the next channel ;)
[02:35] <kromar> ok i think i found the problem with the sound volume, the asound.state file gets reseted every time i reboot. why is this happening?
[04:31] <art_> can't get adobe flash to work in Xubuntu 9.04
[04:33] <art_> hello
[04:33] <wolfgang> hello
[04:34] <art_> hello
[04:34] <forces> alo
[04:34] <forces> A&T?
[04:35] <forces> art_, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:35] <art_> installed it already
[04:36] <art_> still no adobe flash
[04:38] <art__> sorry got disconnected
[04:38] <forces> art_, which browser r u using?
[04:40] <art__> firefox the latest version
[04:40] <forces> 3.5?
[04:40] <art__> let me check
[04:40] <forces> I have 3.0.11
[04:40] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.30-020630-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 77.6% free] disk[Total: 214.2GB, 67.2% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[04:41] <art__> 3.0.11
[04:41] <forces> hmm
[04:42] <forces> have you installed flash right now?
[04:43] <art__> i tired the x86 version and moved it to .mozillza/plugins, but it didn't work
[04:43] <forces> did you restart your browser?
[04:43] <art__> it doesn't even show up in the plugins info
[04:43] <art__> yes I restarted it
[04:45] <art_> does the fact that I'm running Xubuntu on my Ps3 have anything to do with my problems
[04:46] <forces> remove the plugin installed manually
[04:47] <art_> how? just delete the .so file from the directory
[04:49] <forces> I don't know
[04:49] <forces> how did you install it?
[04:49] <art_> I just removed the .so file from .mozilla/plugins
[04:49] <art_> now what
[04:54] <art_> forces: did I lose you?
[04:55] <forces> now restart the browser
[04:55] <forces> and try again
[04:56] <art_> I'm not sure I installed it correctly
[04:57] <art_> the file I downloaded is libflashplayer.so
[04:57] <forces> try with other browser
[04:57] <forces> you have 2 plugins installed
[04:57] <forces> 2 flash
[04:57] <forces> that's the problem
[04:58] <art_> what the plugin?
[04:58] <art_> when I try the files from abobe I get the "i386" error
[05:02] <forces> art_, try another browser
[05:02] <forces> is just a test
[05:02] <forces> try with opera
[05:03] <art_> where do I get opera
[05:04] <maduser> sudo apt-get install opera
[05:06] <art_> didn't work
[05:06] <art_> Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:06] <art_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:06] <art_> is only available from another source
[05:06] <art_> E: Package opera has no installation candidate
[05:07] <maduser> are you trying to get the falsh player?
[05:07] <maduser> if the deb isn't working then just get the manual installer
[05:09] <art_> yes. how do i get the manual installer
[05:09] <maduser> adobe website
[05:10] <maduser> the tar.gz
[05:10] <forces> art_, www.opera.com
[05:10] <art_> let me download it
[05:10] <forces> =.=
[05:10] <forces> google is your best friend
[05:12] <art_> should i save the flash file or open it?
[05:14] <forces> did you try with opera?
[05:14] <art_> not yet
[05:15] <art_> which version of opera?
[05:16] <art_> linux x86 64, powerpc, linux i386
[05:17] <art_> I have a PS3
[05:18] <maduser> your running linux on it?
[05:19] <art_> xubuntu 9.04
[05:19] <forces> art_, type uname -r
[05:20] <forces> uname -a
[05:20] <forces> in a shell
[05:20] <art_> sorry I'm a newb. not sure what you mean.
[05:22] <art_> you mean in terminal
[05:22] <wolfgang> eee xubuntu on ps3 jealouse the wii sucks
[05:22] <wolfgang> nah the wiis pim sometimes
[05:22] <wolfgang> pimp*
[05:22] <forces> art_, yes
[05:22] <forces> terminal == konsole == shell
[05:23] <art_> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-6-powerpc64-smp #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 09:59:41 UTC 2009 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[05:24] <forces> powerpc
[05:24] <forces> use powerpc
[05:24] <art_> ok
[05:25] <art_> the option is ubuntu 7.10 gutsy gibbon. Is that ok
[05:26] <forces> o_0
[05:26] <wolfgang> o_0
[05:26] <forces> and ubuntu 9.04?
[05:26] <art_> not listed
[05:27] <forces> art_, type in a shell
[05:27] <forces> or terminal
[05:27] <forces> sudo apt-get instal epiphany-browser
[05:27] <forces> try with that browser
[05:32] <art_> still installing
[05:33] <art_> appreciate the help
[05:35] <forces> i'm tired
[05:35] <art_> Sorry about that.
[05:35] <art_> installed now what
[05:44] <art_> do I need to be logged on as the root user instead of the local user
[08:22] <jadez03> stupid WicD
[10:14] <psycho_oreos> is there a possibility for me to make apt-get download from one of my other hosts which is running the same distro? (both are xubuntu 9.04). I was thinking of a possibility with trying to do network mounting of /var/cache/apt/archives maybe over smbfs.
[10:17] <psycho_oreos> I prefer not to download over the internet right now because for one I am on internet that's already capped, so the speed is slow enough. The other is that it will be a pain for me to update more xubuntu boxens and getting them to download the same package (thus its a waste of bandwidth and un-necessary redundancy)
[10:19] <TheSheep> you can install a .deb file with gdebi or dpkg -i
[10:19] <TheSheep> so just copy the files over and install them
[10:20] <psycho_oreos> hmm that wouldn't be bad idea but what about somehow simplifying the process? because there's almost always updates available.. I was thinking if I shared that directory, it also contains a database file which I hope is what apt-get will be referring to rather than some hidden list somewhere else
[10:21] <psycho_oreos> or some really confusing process
[10:27] <psycho_oreos> previously I was thinking of setting up my own server for all the debian packages but its really difficult now with keys and what not.. what a pain in the ass and plus if my idea works, I can shave some more bandwidth + space off by keeping all the debs on one box and the other just installs stuff from that one box without having to really download the deb packages and then update
[10:33] <psycho_oreos> ok correction, its not in /var/cache/apt/archives for that db, its in /var/cache/apt.. and its not really a db its a file named pkgcache.bin which file reports it as just data.. was hoping for some useful ascii stuff that is readable so I can quickly determine if this will resolve my issue or not.. I'll use strings
[10:34] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> seems as though the information I got is more like a dump of whatever is the output from apt-get update lol
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> I'll try my method once I've downloaded the updates first.. I'll install smb
[11:10] <SiDi> psycho_oreos: i know there is a way to turn one of your machines into a repository
[11:10] <SiDi> and other machines would use it
[11:10] <SiDi> but i dont know how you can tell which packages you want for the repository
[11:11] <psycho_oreos> SiDi, well I'm hoping for simple stuff like when I hit apt-get upgrade (after seeing theres new updates available) it will download from the host.. however, if I can cut off the extra downloading that'll be a bonus but its not a huge necessity
[11:11] <SiDi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocalAptGetRepository
[11:12] <psycho_oreos> when I mean download I mean like downloading the deb packages onto the computer itself and then installing it from there
[11:12] <SiDi> psycho_oreos: the only difficult thing will be to setup the local repo and chose which packages should be on it
[11:12] <psycho_oreos> hmm thanks, I'll check the link
[11:12] <SiDi> psycho_oreos: i suppose there would be a way to make the local repo use the cache directory of apt as a list of packages, and then these packages would be available for your local machines
[11:13] <psycho_oreos> well it shouldn't be too difficult, there's minor differences between my boxens and I don't use optimised packages
[11:13] <psycho_oreos> yeah I was thinking of mounting them over smb
[11:14] <psycho_oreos> like share /var/cache/apt over smbfs and then mount it onto the other computers as if its their own.. tricking synaptic and what not into installing it rather than not seeing it there and download the packages from the real repository
[11:15] <SiDi> its better to setup a local repo :)
[11:15] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[11:16] <psycho_oreos> but wouldn't that also need one to generate gpg keys and what not? then there's preferences over which repo to use unless I disabled all the internet ones and to use the local one?
[11:21] <psycho_oreos> anyway thanks for the inputs, I'll try my method first and if that doesn't work I'll setup a local repository
[11:38] <jadez03> this is ground control to major tom
[11:38] <jadez03> take your protein pills and put your helmet on
[12:29] <kromar> hi
[12:39] <kromar> anyone knows how i can stop asound.state to get reset after rebooting?
[12:56] <kromar> ok my sound problem seems to be that alsa is not started on boot. how can i make it start when booting?
[12:59] <SiDi> kromar: hm, ps aux | grep pulse please
[12:59]  * SiDi had an idea
[13:00] <kromar> that does nothing
[13:00] <SiDi> ah crap
[13:00] <SiDi> its not PA then :(
[13:01] <SiDi> kromar: no idea then, sorry. Feel free to try #ubuntu though :/
[13:10] <kromar> looks like the solution was an easy one... will reboot to see if that works:O
[13:12] <SiDi> kromar: so ?
[13:13] <kromar> negative... did not work
[13:14] <SiDi> :(
[13:15] <kromar> well someone in the ubuntu channel told me to activate the alsa service under App>system>services but that didnt help
[13:17] <kromar> when i enter sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils start in a terminal it gets unmuted so i guess that needs to be executed at boot, right?
[13:31] <znag> anyone know how to make thunar launch with maximum window size?
[14:22] <kromar> so i reinstalled xubuntu again and set the volume to 50% before updating and after the first reboot the sound is not muted o_O
[14:22] <kromar> gona reboot again to see if it stays that way
[14:25] <kromar> still got sound after second reboot... hurrayy. gona turn the volume up and reboot again...
[14:25] <SiDi_> kromar: you must write a bug report forthis issue :/
[14:26] <kromar> gona test a bit more later today to see if it keeps working or if it fails again
[14:30] <kromar> yeah seems to work for now.... till later
[15:30] <mikubuntu> i am trying to make an Endura Video Player work in Wine on my ubuntu 904 laptop.  i received a disk from a courthouse video system, and this is the player that came with an .exe file on the disk.  the player is running, it has the video file in it, but is not rendering any video... is it possible i need to 'install' some codecs to wine?  if so, how do i 'permanently' install those?  thanks...
[15:30] <mikubuntu> ...to anyone who can help!
[15:31] <mikubuntu> yes, i've askd the question b4 here.  still  can't get this dang thing to play...
[16:10] <Kangarooo> hello I pressed in pidgin Help Help translate this application and it opens me link in opera.. but FF is default..
[16:11] <Kangarooo> default aplication is FF in xubuntu and in pidgin also default link opener is FF
[16:11] <Kangarooo> this is not first time when something opens in opera but I want it to open in FF
[16:39] <ivan_> всём привет
[16:39] <ivan_> здесь по русски кто-нибудь говорит?
[16:39] <knome> ivan_, english please...
[16:40] <charlie-tca> !ru
[16:40] <ivan_> Who can help me in one question? I'm not running torrent client in Xubuntu 9.04
[16:43] <ivan_> help please?
[16:43] <charlie-tca> !question | ivan_
[17:23] <psycho_oreos> from linux to linux, how does one connect to an xdmcp session without logging out of the current one on their local host? i.e. running xdmcp-"client" in windowed mode for example
[17:51] <nikolam> What a lowsy Microsoft move.. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13880_3-10277784-68.html
[17:51] <nikolam> I am one more time convinced that closed source OS`s should be avoided as much as possible
[18:00] <mdshaw89> nikolam: yep - I noticed this today on my netbook after a patching - wish I could wipe Windoze but unfortunately Netflix has no valid Linux option.
[18:01] <kromar> SiDi: looks like the sound is working now, how do i make a error report?
[18:02] <kromar> oh someone knows when SiDi will be back?
[18:13] <psycho_oreos> mdshaw89, ever tried running that software in vm?
[18:15] <mdshaw89> psycho_oreos:  yep - works fine but you have to have a enough of a machine to make it useable
[18:16] <psycho_oreos> mdshaw89, well I suppose you could try the stripped down versions of windows.. not that they are great but it'll probably suffice
[18:16] <mdshaw89> I'm using an Asus 900HD netbook as a TV video streamer - works fine - but sucks I have to run Windoze
[18:16] <psycho_oreos> can't find open-source alternative?
[18:16] <mdshaw89> LOL
[18:16] <mdshaw89> nope
[18:17] <mdshaw89> believe me I've looked
[18:17] <mdshaw89> Netflix has been very sneaky about their Roku box
[18:17] <psycho_oreos> as with all other windows only based programs
[18:18] <mdshaw89> I think it really sucks that Linux isn't good enough for a direct player but certainly good enough to run their set-top box
[18:19] <psycho_oreos> I'd say its the fault of the driver used in the process to render graphics as such :p but then again, why complain when you're getting all this for next to nothing?
[18:19] <mdshaw89> I'm surprised RMS hasn't pointed this out.
[18:20] <psycho_oreos> RMS?
[18:20] <mdshaw89> Richard Stallman
[18:20] <mdshaw89> FSF advocate
[18:20] <psycho_oreos> what about what I said?
[18:21] <mdshaw89> Don't understand?
[18:21] <psycho_oreos> probably because it might leave a flattery image on the developers themselves :p
[18:21] <mdshaw89> "flattery image"???
[18:21] <psycho_oreos> and no my head isn't working too well, its almost half past 3 in my time
[18:22] <mdshaw89> k - no prob - I'm in NC - its 1:22P here - :)
[18:23] <psycho_oreos> if you wrote programs for free, you're struggling but barely managing to get by everyday living.. someone comes along uses your software which is free as you licensed the software as... they then say hey why should I complain when its free? wouldn't that be bit of a bad feeling on your part knowing that you have donated something to the society and am struggling but this person says that he's not complaining when its all for free (m
[18:23] <psycho_oreos> eaning that he's kinda like a freeloader) no?
[18:23] <psycho_oreos> Sat Jul  4 03:23:38 EST 2009
[18:26] <psycho_oreos> I'm not implying that all developers are broke but because linux is so diverse that any one of us can be jobless, yet writing programs and contributing for free
[18:30] <mdshaw89> Keep in mind I'm NOT an RMS fan - I think the guy is a nut!  But I do think that Netflix should make a Linux player available for customers that run Linux - its a bit of a discrimination that since I prefer to run Linux you make me go buy an extra seperate piece of hardware that you offer to other customers for free
[18:32] <psycho_oreos> Netflix amongst many other conceited corporate entities still slaps the same old reasons that because linux is so diverse, its hard to make one for every linux distribution whereas in windows, its unified, one file does most if not all
[18:33] <mdshaw89> yep - I agree
[18:33] <psycho_oreos> most likely in other words, they cbf making a binary blob program for every linux distribution... or better yet, they want to keep it as proprietary binary blob version like broadcrap
[18:34] <mdshaw89> I use Hulu too and until recently Joost - but I do wish there was a company that offered this service to users world-wide - I think a huge opportunity is being missed
[18:34] <psycho_oreos> oh well its their loss not yours
[18:36] <mdshaw89> yep
[18:36] <psycho_oreos> I am already doing my bit to not recommend such softwares/devices to other people unless if they have a good reason that they must use it
[18:37] <psycho_oreos> in business world.. there is a common saying.. "one bad customer brings 10 bad customers"
[18:39] <psycho_oreos> effectively meaning that if we started taking on the stance of snubbing companies which snubs linux and its movement, we maybe able to turn the large mass around and inhibit their sales/revenues
[18:57] <cemunal> ﻿i installed a command line system with 8.04 LTS alternate CD. i want to install xorg, gdm, xfce. And a package which configures my printer auto. but which package? can somebody help me?
[18:57] <psycho_oreos> apt-get install xubuntu-desktop ?
[18:59] <forces> no
[18:59] <forces> cemunal, http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20090504#feature
[18:59] <mikubuntu> hey guys.  my friend finally convinced her daughter that since her vista was frozen up that it was time to go ubuntu.  i gave her an xubuntu disk, but she says that vista has some password lock that will not let her load the disk.  can this be?
[19:00] <psycho_oreos> mikubuntu, she's making up excuses
[19:00] <forces> kick her
[19:00] <psycho_oreos> does she even know how to get into the bios?
[19:01] <mikubuntu> i mean, theres no such a thing, right?  yes, i've taught her b4 , we've installed on other boxes, so i don't know
[19:01] <mikubuntu> guess i will have to make a house call
[19:02] <cemunal> forces: printer?
[19:02] <forces> :O
[19:02] <forces> ha!
[19:03] <forces> xubuntu-desktop?
[19:03] <psycho_oreos> mikubuntu, she's lying, obviously, making stories up or she's a real blonde
[19:04] <cemunal> forces: printer support on minimal xubuntu 8.04 lts
[19:17] <cemunal> will release xubuntu 8.04.3 lts?
[19:17] <cemunal> as a CD
[19:22] <forces> no
[19:22] <forces> the last release was xubuntu 8.04.1
[21:17] <slow-motion> hi
[21:36] <SiDi> hi
[22:26] <magnetron> hi. my xfce returns to some profile that i previously saved by accident. how do i delete this profile so i use the default instead?
[22:30] <SiDi> magnetron: hello, remove .cache/sessions
[22:30] <SiDi> and you should be ok
[22:30] <magnetron> SiDi→ thank you
[23:07] <SiDi> !info gedit
[23:07] <SiDi> !info gedit karmic
[23:43] <kromar> what do i need to watch youtube on linux?
[23:46] <Slonkie> flash player
[23:46] <Slonkie> adobe-flashplugin is in the repos
[23:46] <kromar> hm installed it but get no picture, only sound
[23:47] <Slonkie> reboot your system
[23:51] <SiDi> kromar: can you stop running through every single documented and non-documented issue please ? :D
[23:52] <kromar> i would love to....
[23:57] <kromar> ah got it, i installed the 64bit plugin and the 32 bit plugin was installed which caused the problem
[23:57] <kromar> is there a divx web player for linux?