[00:01] <dgroos> normal = desktop user and admin user?
[00:02] <dgroos> Ok--thanks again!
[00:02] <Svenstaro> There is no admin user.
[00:02] <Svenstaro> On the desktop, that is,
[00:03] <dgroos> I didn't know that!  interesting.
[23:09] <dgroos> Good afternoon All,
[23:10] <Svenstaro> Sup
[23:11] <dgroos> a bit of a reinstall...
[23:11] <dgroos> how bout you?
[23:12] <Svenstaro> Trying to get some permissions in Edubuntu but people don't seem to like the mailing list.
[23:13] <dgroos> 'don't like the mailing list'?
[23:13] <Svenstaro> So far I haven't got one person in charge to answer it.
[23:14] <dgroos> patience/persistance :-)
[23:15] <dgroos> Anyone have an idea about this update message: "Not all updates can be installed" it says that about the "ltsp-server-standalone" package, I think from stgraber's launchpad page which I added to my software sources.
[23:15] <dgroos> Yeah, had to do a complete reinstall.
[23:15] <Svenstaro> Be more verbose.
[23:18] <dgroos> OK--I've reinstalled Ubuntu.  I've added stgraber's to my sources: https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa.  This is a fix for java and more in ltsp.
[23:20] <dgroos> So, I went to update manager and it listed the package, "ltsp-server-standalone" but was grayed out, and gave a dialog box that said: "Not all updates can be installed"...
[23:20] <dgroos> ..."Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible.  This can be caused by:
[23:20] <dgroos> --a previous upgrade which didn't complete...
[23:21] <dgroos> --problemms with some of the installed software...
[23:21] <dgroos> Unofficial softare packages not provided by Ubuntu...
[23:21] <Svenstaro> The problem is that the dependecies of the individual packages aren't satisfied
[23:21] <dgroos> Normal changes of a pre-release version of Ubuntu.
[23:22] <dgroos> then lists the choice of responses as: "Partial Upgrade" and "Close".
[23:22] <Svenstaro> Why aren't those packages in the PPA in upstream?
[23:22] <Svenstaro> Have you contacted stgraber about it?
[23:23] <dgroos> Svenstaro: I'll do that--wasn't sure what the message might mean...
[23:23] <dgroos> Thanks!
[23:23] <Svenstaro> He might know more about the dependencies. LTSP is quite a large package.
[23:24] <Svenstaro> Wait, those are for karmic anyway.
[23:24] <stgraber> dgroos: did you put the ppa line for the same version of Ubuntu you're using ?
[23:24] <Svenstaro> you aren't installing karmic are you?
[23:24] <dgroos> stgraber: hi!  Yes I did, I'll double check...
[23:25] <Svenstaro> stgraber, why aren't your changes in upstream? :(
[23:25] <stgraber> Svenstaro: they are
[23:25] <Svenstaro> Or are they and you created backports?
[23:25] <Svenstaro> Ah I see.
[23:25] <stgraber> Svenstaro: I always do the changes upstream, then backport
[23:25] <stgraber> (mainly because I'm upstream :))
[23:25] <Svenstaro> Of course. Well I don't care for backports on a rolling distro :P
[23:26] <alkisg> stgraber: got it working *automatically* with 2 or more NICs :) Also ipappend 1/2/3 and static IPs are supported. A little more debugging and I'll send it to you tomorrow.
[23:26] <dgroos> stgraber: yes they are set correctly for Jaunty.
[23:27] <alkisg> stgraber: there's a hardcoded "DEVICE=eth0" in local-top/nbd, could that be removed?
[23:28] <stgraber> alkisg: probably yeah
[23:28] <dgroos> Svenstaro: and yes, I'm not installing Karmic :)
[23:28] <stgraber> dgroos: what happens if you do: sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone
[23:29] <stgraber> it should give you a more useful error message
[23:29] <alkisg> stgraber: Good! G'night all...
[23:30] <stgraber> alkisg: good night
[23:31] <dgroos> stgraber: I did it and it said... the following extra packages will be installed: ldm-server...
[23:32] <dgroos> the following packages will be removed: ldminfod...
[23:32] <dgroos> the following NEW packages will be installed: ldm-server
[23:33] <dgroos> the following packages will be upgraded: ltsp-server-standalone...
[23:33] <dgroos> stgraber: should I continue Y/n ?
[23:34] <stgraber> ok, so there's actually no error :)
[23:34] <stgraber> it's just that the graphic tool won't let you install a new package
[23:34] <dgroos> cool...  I'll accept...
[23:34] <stgraber> you should just do the dist-upgrade from the console with: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:34] <stgraber> and it'll work just fine
[23:35] <stgraber> one of the things I did in karmic is some packages splitting so upgrading from jaunty to karmic's backport will require you to install a few new packages
[23:37] <dgroos> Don't plan on doing the karmic thing--I think I'll upgrade each summer when I have time to make sure things work--if something happened to the server in the middle of the year in the October release time, I'd be cooked if I couldn't fix it.  But that's what I'm thinking now.
[23:37] <Svenstaro> dgroos, hopefully NEXT summer will be a much better time to install Eduubntu
[23:38] <dgroos> And I hope to be involved in this ongoing improvement :)
[23:38] <dgroos> Thanks Svenstaro and stgraber--Now time for some July 4th Partying!
[23:39] <Svenstaro> Why what's up today?
[23:47] <stgraber> dgroos: enjoy you July 4th (hope it's not too rainy where you're :))
[23:48] <stgraber> Svenstaro: Independence Day