[00:01] normal = desktop user and admin user? [00:02] Ok--thanks again! [00:02] There is no admin user. [00:02] On the desktop, that is, [00:03] I didn't know that! interesting. [23:09] Good afternoon All, [23:10] Sup [23:11] a bit of a reinstall... [23:11] how bout you? [23:12] Trying to get some permissions in Edubuntu but people don't seem to like the mailing list. [23:13] 'don't like the mailing list'? [23:13] So far I haven't got one person in charge to answer it. [23:14] patience/persistance :-) [23:15] Anyone have an idea about this update message: "Not all updates can be installed" it says that about the "ltsp-server-standalone" package, I think from stgraber's launchpad page which I added to my software sources. [23:15] Yeah, had to do a complete reinstall. [23:15] Be more verbose. [23:18] OK--I've reinstalled Ubuntu. I've added stgraber's to my sources: https://launchpad.net/~stgraber/+archive/ppa. This is a fix for java and more in ltsp. [23:20] So, I went to update manager and it listed the package, "ltsp-server-standalone" but was grayed out, and gave a dialog box that said: "Not all updates can be installed"... [23:20] ..."Run a partial upgrade, to install as many updates as possible. This can be caused by: [23:20] --a previous upgrade which didn't complete... [23:21] --problemms with some of the installed software... [23:21] Unofficial softare packages not provided by Ubuntu... [23:21] The problem is that the dependecies of the individual packages aren't satisfied [23:21] Normal changes of a pre-release version of Ubuntu. [23:22] then lists the choice of responses as: "Partial Upgrade" and "Close". [23:22] Why aren't those packages in the PPA in upstream? [23:22] Have you contacted stgraber about it? [23:23] Svenstaro: I'll do that--wasn't sure what the message might mean... [23:23] Thanks! [23:23] He might know more about the dependencies. LTSP is quite a large package. [23:24] Wait, those are for karmic anyway. [23:24] dgroos: did you put the ppa line for the same version of Ubuntu you're using ? [23:24] you aren't installing karmic are you? [23:24] stgraber: hi! Yes I did, I'll double check... [23:25] stgraber, why aren't your changes in upstream? :( [23:25] Svenstaro: they are [23:25] Or are they and you created backports? [23:25] Ah I see. [23:25] Svenstaro: I always do the changes upstream, then backport [23:25] (mainly because I'm upstream :)) [23:25] Of course. Well I don't care for backports on a rolling distro :P [23:26] stgraber: got it working *automatically* with 2 or more NICs :) Also ipappend 1/2/3 and static IPs are supported. A little more debugging and I'll send it to you tomorrow. [23:26] stgraber: yes they are set correctly for Jaunty. [23:27] stgraber: there's a hardcoded "DEVICE=eth0" in local-top/nbd, could that be removed? [23:28] alkisg: probably yeah [23:28] Svenstaro: and yes, I'm not installing Karmic :) [23:28] dgroos: what happens if you do: sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone [23:29] it should give you a more useful error message [23:29] stgraber: Good! G'night all... [23:30] alkisg: good night [23:31] stgraber: I did it and it said... the following extra packages will be installed: ldm-server... [23:32] the following packages will be removed: ldminfod... [23:32] the following NEW packages will be installed: ldm-server [23:33] the following packages will be upgraded: ltsp-server-standalone... [23:33] stgraber: should I continue Y/n ? [23:34] ok, so there's actually no error :) [23:34] it's just that the graphic tool won't let you install a new package [23:34] cool... I'll accept... [23:34] you should just do the dist-upgrade from the console with: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [23:34] and it'll work just fine [23:35] one of the things I did in karmic is some packages splitting so upgrading from jaunty to karmic's backport will require you to install a few new packages [23:37] Don't plan on doing the karmic thing--I think I'll upgrade each summer when I have time to make sure things work--if something happened to the server in the middle of the year in the October release time, I'd be cooked if I couldn't fix it. But that's what I'm thinking now. [23:37] dgroos, hopefully NEXT summer will be a much better time to install Eduubntu [23:38] And I hope to be involved in this ongoing improvement :) [23:38] Thanks Svenstaro and stgraber--Now time for some July 4th Partying! [23:39] Why what's up today? [23:47] dgroos: enjoy you July 4th (hope it's not too rainy where you're :)) [23:48] Svenstaro: Independence Day