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macosoo who's still using jaunty?00:01
ZoraelJaunty on one machine, Karmic on the other00:04
blizzzjaunty here00:05
ZoraelThe mentioned update bug hit me (kdm stopping to update), so I just sat in a tty and waited for hdd activity to drop, then killed the aptitude process, removed the lock file and had dpkg resume configuring00:07
macoin the ps manpage, they list "ps jax --sort=uid,-ppid,+pid" as an example. ive got one user saying it errors for her on jaunty. works on karmic. can you reproduce?00:08
macoZorael, oh is THAT what happened to me yesterday?00:08
Zoraelmaco: Possibly. :300:09
Zoraelmaco: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/209363/00:09
Zoraelmaco: it doesn't seem to like the + sign at all, and the man page says "The "+" is optional since default direction is increasing numerical or lexicographic order."00:13
macoZorael, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=50843500:13
ubottuDebian bug 508435 in procps ""ps --sort" doesn't work for time arguments (patch included)" [Unknown,Closed]00:13
nellerylex79: around?00:14
lex79nellery: yes00:14
nellerylex79: looking at your kanyremote update... do you think that it would be better to recommend python-bluez rather than depend on it00:15
nelleryas the README says "if planned to use bluetooth connection"00:16
lex79yes I know, if you want I can change to recommend :)00:17
nellerylex79: don't worry about it, I can do it for you00:17
nellerygreat work, will upload shortly00:18
lex79I like depend rather reccomend, less trouble for the user00:18
lex79nellery: thanks00:19
nellerylex79: from what I can see, it's not completely necessary to have it00:20
nelleryyou only need it if you want bluetooth support00:21
lex79ok ;)00:21
neversfeldesomeone wants to review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/bilbo00:22
lex79Riddell or ScottK: can you retry kdeutils? FTBS on i38600:34
lex79http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28609229/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.kdeutils_4%3A4.2.95-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz00:34
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lex79thanks nellery00:37
ScottKlex79: Done00:37
lex79great00:37
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Riddellnixternal: ping?03:17
nixternalRiddell: got it, will look at it shortly for you04:23
nixternalRiddell: the Fridge is shite, it doesn't allow img tags04:27
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PingJockyanyone having sound issues with kubuntu 9.10?06:30
nixternalnope06:33
nixternalonly n00bs have issues like that06:33
nixternalmy sound is super quiet, but I am not a n00b like you06:34
nixternalcould usb transfer be any slower?06:36
PingJockyshould have lobbied to get a good netbook instead of that crap that dell puts out06:49
DaskreeCHPingJocky: Lob the crap at me :)08:22
PingJockyDaskreeCH: na... i was just popping nixternal some shit!09:49
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Riddell~twitter update conference has started, unable to wake kenny, anarchy may ensue10:02
kubotustatus updated10:02
Riddell~twitter update other kenny emerged only to disappear, anarchy is taking over10:05
kubotustatus updated10:05
DaskreeCHWhat's going on?10:07
RiddellGlaswegians, that's what10:07
Riddelland a free bar last night10:07
blizzzhard work, eh10:08
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aerzteloggerhm10:55
aerzteloggerwhere is everyone?10:55
lex79holiday11:01
lex79:P11:01
aerzteloggerbah11:01
* aerztelogger re-implements kcm-root-fix patch11:01
aerzteloggeryou know, I really love fedora developers, kevin kofler was kind enough to direct me to the KDE 4.3 port :)11:02
aerzteloggerlex79: are you motu yet?11:05
neversfeldeaerztelogger: would you have a look at the new bilbo package?11:13
lex79nope11:13
aerzteloggerkubotu: np11:14
kubotuaerztelogger doesn't exist on last.fm, perhaps they need to: lastfm user <username>11:14
aerzteloggeroh dear11:14
aerzteloggerkubotu: lastfm user apachelogger11:14
kubotuincorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help lastfm'11:14
aerzteloggerhmmmm11:14
neversfeldemhh, REVU not loading11:14
aerzteloggerkubotu: help lastfm11:14
kubotulast.fm plugin - topics: events, artist, album, track, now, set, who, compare, shouts, friends, neighbors, (loved|recent)tracks, top(albums|tracks|artists), weekly(album|artist|track)chart11:14
aerzteloggerkubotu: help lastfm set11:15
kubotulastfm set user <user> => associate your current irc nick with a last.fm user. lastfm set verb <present>, <past> => set your preferred now playing/just played verbs. default "is listening to" and "listened to".11:15
aerzteloggerkubotu: lastfm set user apachelogger11:15
kubotuokay, I'll remember that aerztelogger is apachelogger on last.fm11:15
aerzteloggerkubotu: np11:15
kubotuapachelogger is listening to "Alles für Dich" by Die Ärzte [Rebell, 1999]; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more11:15
aerzteloggerneversfelde: ^11:15
neversfeldelastfm neversfelde11:15
neversfeldemhh11:15
aerzteloggeruh, council votes are over already11:15
neversfeldehere it is http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/bilbo11:16
aerzteloggerneversfelde: revud11:32
neversfeldeaerztelogger: I think with ospdev there is the same problem that exists with kde-apps, but I will have a look at it again. Thank you11:35
aerzteloggerospdev doesn't use UID'ed names for the downloads, so it should be watchable one way or another11:36
neversfeldeok11:37
CIA-76kubuntu: apachelogger * r115 kdebase-workspace/debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs):11:46
CIA-76kubuntu: Port kubuntu_11_fix_root_only_kcms.diff to KDE 4.3. Proudly provided11:46
CIA-76kubuntu: by the Fedora-KDE team (enhanced with our icon hack).11:46
aerzteloggerCIA \o/11:47
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cbrhi12:16
cbrwhat's the matter with kubuntu12:16
cbrit says can't open /dev/null because of permissions and a lot of programs crash12:16
Quintasanhi there12:19
cbrsome udev stuff gone horribly wrong again12:20
cbr?12:20
Quintasanlooks like12:20
Quintasankarmic?12:20
cbryes12:20
QuintasanI'm not updating :P12:20
CIA-76Kubuntu: apachelogger * r6 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/process.rb: Make list-processor actually do a l10n checkout if not available.12:27
aerzteloggercbr: older kernel doesn't help?12:27
CIA-76Kubuntu: apachelogger * r7 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/process.rb:12:38
CIA-76Kubuntu: * Enhance blacklist12:38
CIA-76Kubuntu: * Try to take the launchpad conversion from _ to - into account (somewhat)12:38
* aerztelogger is wondering why neither k3b nor konversation have desktop_*.pot files in KDE svn12:54
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aerzteloggermy quassel icon is blinking and I aint got no idea why :D13:03
aerzteloggerSput: quassel is the broken13:03
lex79try with show hide buffers13:04
lex79launchpad bug 39548113:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395481 in kipi-plugins "Merge kipi-plugins 0.4.0-1 with debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39548113:06
aerzteloggerI don't hide buffers13:12
* aerztelogger thinks that he stripped the list of launchpad translation templates to remove to the point where it makes most sense13:13
CIA-76Kubuntu: apachelogger * r8 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/process.rb: Finalize list-processor's ignore arrays, the output now should be pretty much perfect.13:16
CIA-76Kubuntu: apachelogger * r9 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/ (karmic-templates-kubuntu.log process.rb): Update with new templates list.13:37
aerzteloggerlex79: the fix for k3b+oxygen is inefficient13:50
aerzteloggerlex79: kdebase-runtime needs to depend on oxygen-icons13:50
aerzteloggerk3b depends on kdebase-runtime13:51
aerzteloggerso does any other KDE application I suppose13:51
aerzteloggerso instead of making each application depend on oxygen-icons, we should make kdebase-runtime depend13:51
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dajomuanyone here?14:33
dajomuI tried to install Karmic but got this message: "Udevd[1974]: Worker 2120 unexpectedly returned with 0" and this one "[380.044468] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical end_request: I/O error on device sro, block.14:36
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Blizzzis there are know memory leak in 4.3 rc? my swap gets flooded16:05
DaskreeCHBlizzz: maybe. Not known by me. What do you have open?16:18
BlizzzDaskreeCH: Amarok, Konqueror, Konversation, Kopete, Choqok, Kile, OOo16:19
Blizzznothing unusual ;)16:19
* DaskreeCH laughs. What's using memeory?16:20
BlizzzDaskreeCH: Xorg  ~10%, Amarok ~5%, Konqueror ~3%, Kontact ~3%16:21
DaskreeCHHow much of your Memory is cache?16:22
Blizzz1271 MB (2GB total)16:22
Blizzzif atop shows a blinking red line this is presumably indicating that something is not ok?16:23
Blizzzhttp://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/805 (outtake, the highlighted ones)16:24
BlizzzDSK is usually normal, and PAG 50:50, but SWP is blinking red the whole time16:25
BlizzzDaskreeCH: another effect is, that suspend to RAM gets useless. waking up takes hours, afterwards swap is totally filled up and for everything you do disk is working as hell. eventually there is no chance but reboot.16:34
Le-Chuck_ITAHi there, I asked already in #ubuntu+1 and #kubuntu; I installed kdelinve in gnome, recommended packages and all the rest, in karmic, but I don't have icons in toolbars and buttons, some dependency must be missing but I don't know what16:46
Blizzzneed a reboot :(16:58
QuintasanLe-Chuck_ITA: do you have oxygen icons installed?17:04
* Quintasan thinks kde libs depend on oxygen17:04
Le-Chuck_ITAQuintasan: I don't, installing it now17:04
QuintasanLe-Chuck_ITA: kde-icons-oxygen17:04
tsimpsonmaybe it's bug #39541817:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395418 in k3b "k3b / karmic - gnome is not installing kde-icons-oxygen by default" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39541817:05
Le-Chuck_ITAQuintasan: kdelibs-data depends only on hicolor icons17:06
Le-Chuck_ITAah yes17:06
Le-Chuck_ITANow I have icons in kdenlive, thanks a lot.17:06
Quintasannp :)17:06
DaskreeCHBlizzz: What version of KDE?17:32
BlizzzDaskreeCH: 4.3 RC17:32
DaskreeCHhmm haven't been running that long enough to know. How fast does swap fill up?17:33
Blizzzoh. let me think.17:34
Blizzzthe 2gb of swap i have are filled up in let's say 6hrs17:34
Blizzzor if i suspend to ram and wake up :) then in no time^^17:35
macoBlizzz, how much ram?17:38
Blizzzmaco: 2gb each17:38
macoBlizzz, thats what ive got17:38
macoswap usually doesnt go over 1gb in use though17:38
macoer wait....i have 2gb ram and 4gb swap17:38
Blizzzmaco: it didn't used to here, too, but that was before 4.3 rc17:39
macoi just booted like an hour ago, so its only just starte to swap a coupl mb17:40
Blizzzmh, in the 40min since my last reboot 107mb of swap are used. there is something wrong.17:41
* Blizzz is out for a walk17:55
Riddellryanakca: getting into Debian Qt KDE team?17:57
ryanakcaRiddell: Aye18:32
ryanakcaRiddell: along with the Debian Python Apps one. Helping out with two teams should be ample work, along with the Kubuntu website and what not on this side.18:33
Blizzzre18:51
nhandlerryanakca: Speaking of the Kubuntu website, for Bug 389955, didn't we decide that the javascript would be fine to use? Also, any idea when the sys admins will push the changes?18:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 389955 in kubuntu-website "Kubuntu New Wiki Theme - "You are here" text is incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38995518:54
nixternalinstalling Kubuntu on the mini now...so far so good19:07
seelenixternal: netbook edition or just regular kubuntu?19:21
nixternalI will put netbook edition on there once it is installed since there isn't a cd for it yet19:23
nixternaland netbook edition == regular kubuntu right now, so I get to start from the beginning and start working on KDE MID and Kubuntu Netbook Edition :)19:23
nixternalone thing I liked with the Dell Ubuntu is that you can switch to the regular desktop or the netbook edition19:24
nixternaland Dell really screws up Ubuntu big time..it is really buggy, super slow, a real mess19:24
nixternalit looks just OK to me19:24
nixternalI want to try UNR as it looks decent19:24
nixternalwhat I have seen thus far from KDE though, I am not a fan of...it just doesn't look right to me, so I am hoping to help out there a bit19:25
lex79Tonio_: have you time to sponsor konversation ? :)19:43
Tonio_lex79: sure, url ?19:44
lex79https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/39545019:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 395450 in konversation "Merge konversation 1.2~alpha4-2 with debian unstable" [Undecided,New]19:44
lex79thx :P19:44
nixternalwhere is jjesse when you need him19:53
nixternalKubuntu will not run on this bad boy19:53
lex79launchpad bug 395481 39527619:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395481 in kipi-plugins "Merge kipi-plugins 0.4.0-1 with debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39548119:56
lex79uhm kubotu :(19:56
lex79launchpad bug 39527619:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395276 in kdenlive "Please merge kdenlive 0.7.5-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39527619:57
lex79ok :P19:57
ryanakcanhandler: Yes, we will be using javascript. I just haven't gotten around to fixing it, I've been camping for the past week20:33
ryanakcanhandler: As for when the sysadmins will push the changes, it'll be whenever I finish the changes + two to three weeks... so, figure within the next two weeks to a month.20:34
macohey guys, is plasma broken?20:51
Quintasanmaco: Why it should be?21:01
* Quintasan wonders if anyone can help with with vim21:02
Quintasanargh21:02
macoi might be able to21:04
macoand it seems broken here... i dont get knotify popups (tray shows there's 1 notification, but it wont display it when clicked), and i cant get kmix to close21:04
macoQuintasan, er, i meant i might be able to help on vim21:05
Quintasanmaco: I'm trying to learn regexp. but vim looks only in current line. I tried s/pattern/pattern2/g but it didn't work21:11
Quintasanmaco: I have same issue, try killing it21:11
macog just does it for every instance on that line21:12
macoyou want :%s/21:13
macoinstead of :s/21:13
Quintasanah21:14
Quintasanthanks21:14
ryanakcaCan someone push https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/395604 through please?21:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 395604 in libqinfinity "Sync libqinfinity 1.0~beta3-1 (universe) from Debian experimental (main)." [Wishlist,New]21:16
macoQuintasan, you may also find ".,.+3s/" interesting. it says "from this line til 3 lines from now, substitute..."21:18
Quintasanmaco: will write it somewhere :P21:19
nixternal:%s/foo/bar/g21:36
nixternalQuintasan: ^^21:36
nixternalthough I think :s/foo/bar/g will work all the same21:37
Quintasannixternal: second one looks for all instances in line you are currently in :P21:37
nixternalthe g should fix that though, if not chalk up another vim failure :p21:38
* Quintasan misses block mode, Kate's ctrl+v == paste21:39
ryanakcaQuintasan: Vim has block mode too, :help visual-block ... however, if you want ^v as paste, I'm sure you could remap it in your .vimrc...21:58
Quintasanryanakca: I'm using Vi input mode in Kate :P21:59
ryanakcaQuintasan: Oh. Ewww... that sounds wierd.22:00
Quintasanryanakca: I though so, but with Konsole plugin and tab bar it rocks :D22:01
ryanakcaQuintasan: Doesn't :sp or :vsp along with ^w j or ^w k do the same thing as tabs?22:04
Riddell~twitter update dinner party in the KDE penthouse suite22:13
kubotustatus updated22:13
Blizzzafter 5 ½hrs ~80MB of my swap are unused :-/22:39
vorianyo nixternal23:19
vorianI'm at O'Hair23:19
nixternalpoor vorian23:22
nixternalhow long are you there for?23:22
claydohhow hard would it be to convince someone to work on a KDE/Konq cleint for ubuntuone?23:31
macoryanakca, it does the same as panes, not tabs23:31
maconixternal, nope, youre getting it wrong23:32
maconixternal, no g = replace first instance on this line23:32
maconixternal, g = replace all instances on this line23:32
maconixternal, % & no g = first instance on every line23:32
maconixternal, % & g = all instances on all lines23:32
voriannixternal: til 723:36
PingJockyvorian: your at ohare till 7?23:36
PingJockydamn... im sorry23:36
macoclaydoh, umm....the regular ubuntuone client works with dolphin just fine23:37
* claydoh realizes its wishful thinking right now23:37
claydohit does? integrated I mean23:38
claydohlike in nautilus23:38
* claydoh is using it himself, paying for the extra space :)23:38
claydohit works fine using like dropbox23:39
claydohbut I have had 3 people recently get literelaly angry at the extra deps neede to be installed :(23:39
nixternalvorian: what time did you get in?23:41
nixternalmaco: that's because vim sucks and doesn't do regex correctly then23:41
nixternalPingJocky: how about you take me out to dinner tonight? I am on my way over! :)23:41
PingJockycome over.. i have food!23:42
maconixternal, it's per-line regex23:42
nixternalit's per-shite regex23:43
nixternalPingJocky: still raining by you?23:43
PingJockynot really23:43
macoclaydoh, umm i never used it with nautilus, but if i start the ubuntuone client then put stuff in ~/Ubuntu\ One in Dolphin, the little ubuntuone logo starts spinning in the tray and then after a while of data transmission, it stops, and everything's all synced23:43
PingJockyill feed you, you teach me Qt + C++23:44
claydohmaco: yes, it works nicely :)23:44
nixternalbeer too?23:44
PingJockynope, youll have to get that or i can pick some up23:44
claydohmaco: bug #395357 is the latest, and most angry :(23:44
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395357 in ubuntuone-client "Install PPA installed a bunch of things that I do not need on my computer." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39535723:44
nixternali will fill my camelpack up with some beer and start pedaling :p23:44
PingJockybtw, pidgin was causing my audio problems23:45
PingJockycome on over...23:45
macoclaydoh, oh that just plain didnt work for me :P yay for dpkg on the cli23:45
nixternalmy computer just yelled at me..it said.... "CONGRATULATIONS! YOU WON!"23:45
nixternalstupid ads23:45
PingJockywhere do i file Kubuntu bugs?23:46
claydohmaco: I just installed it vis kpackagekit on my karmic box :) yay for kpackagekit not barfing this once :)23:47
macoPingJocky, same place as ubuntu bugs :)23:47
PingJockymaco: right on!23:47
voriannixternal: got here at 515ish23:50
vorianmy kids are going nuts23:51
vorianits just a layover from UT to OH23:52
PingJockythey have a cool exibit for kids at one of the security checkpoints23:53
claydohnixternal: would beer be a motivator or a performance enhancer :)23:54
claydohnixternal: I managed almost 5 miles today, in some light rain - my fave time to ride:)23:54
macoeep! i dont think i could ride 5 miles23:54
macomaybe 2 or 3 if i had empty saddlebags and no backpack...23:55
claydoh5 flat miles23:56
claydohnot to bad, I an 300+lbs and have high blood pressure, it wasn't too bad23:56
claydohwhen i was  fit and 19, I managed to do a 44 mile ride, nothing campared to Tour De nixternal here :)23:57
* claydoh is going to enjoy watching the tour de france in hi def this year23:58

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