[00:01] <maco> soo who's still using jaunty?
[00:04] <Zorael> Jaunty on one machine, Karmic on the other
[00:05] <blizzz> jaunty here
[00:07] <Zorael> The mentioned update bug hit me (kdm stopping to update), so I just sat in a tty and waited for hdd activity to drop, then killed the aptitude process, removed the lock file and had dpkg resume configuring
[00:08] <maco> in the ps manpage, they list "ps jax --sort=uid,-ppid,+pid" as an example. ive got one user saying it errors for her on jaunty. works on karmic. can you reproduce?
[00:08] <maco> Zorael, oh is THAT what happened to me yesterday?
[00:09] <Zorael> maco: Possibly. :3
[00:09] <Zorael> maco: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/209363/
[00:13] <Zorael> maco: it doesn't seem to like the + sign at all, and the man page says "The "+" is optional since default direction is increasing numerical or lexicographic order."
[00:13] <maco> Zorael, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508435
[00:14] <nellery> lex79: around?
[00:14] <lex79> nellery: yes
[00:15] <nellery> lex79: looking at your kanyremote update... do you think that it would be better to recommend python-bluez rather than depend on it
[00:16] <nellery> as the README says "if planned to use bluetooth connection"
[00:17] <lex79> yes I know, if you want I can change to recommend :)
[00:17] <nellery> lex79: don't worry about it, I can do it for you
[00:18] <nellery> great work, will upload shortly
[00:18] <lex79> I like depend rather reccomend, less trouble for the user
[00:19] <lex79> nellery: thanks
[00:20] <nellery> lex79: from what I can see, it's not completely necessary to have it
[00:21] <nellery> you only need it if you want bluetooth support
[00:21] <lex79> ok ;)
[00:22] <neversfelde> someone wants to review http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/bilbo
[00:34] <lex79> Riddell or ScottK: can you retry kdeutils? FTBS on i386
[00:34] <lex79> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28609229/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.kdeutils_4%3A4.2.95-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[00:37] <lex79> thanks nellery
[00:37] <ScottK> lex79: Done
[00:37] <lex79> great
[03:17] <Riddell> nixternal: ping?
[04:23] <nixternal> Riddell: got it, will look at it shortly for you
[04:27] <nixternal> Riddell: the Fridge is shite, it doesn't allow img tags
[06:30] <PingJocky> anyone having sound issues with kubuntu 9.10?
[06:33] <nixternal> nope
[06:33] <nixternal> only n00bs have issues like that
[06:34] <nixternal> my sound is super quiet, but I am not a n00b like you
[06:36] <nixternal> could usb transfer be any slower?
[06:49] <PingJocky> should have lobbied to get a good netbook instead of that crap that dell puts out
[08:22] <DaskreeCH> PingJocky: Lob the crap at me :)
[09:49] <PingJocky> DaskreeCH: na... i was just popping nixternal some shit!
[10:02] <Riddell> ~twitter update conference has started, unable to wake kenny, anarchy may ensue
[10:02] <kubotu> status updated
[10:05] <Riddell> ~twitter update other kenny emerged only to disappear, anarchy is taking over
[10:05] <kubotu> status updated
[10:07] <DaskreeCH> What's going on?
[10:07] <Riddell> Glaswegians, that's what
[10:07] <Riddell> and a free bar last night
[10:08] <blizzz> hard work, eh
[10:55] <aerztelogger> hm
[10:55] <aerztelogger> where is everyone?
[11:01] <lex79> holiday
[11:01] <lex79> :P
[11:01] <aerztelogger> bah
[11:01]  * aerztelogger re-implements kcm-root-fix patch
[11:02] <aerztelogger> you know, I really love fedora developers, kevin kofler was kind enough to direct me to the KDE 4.3 port :)
[11:05] <aerztelogger> lex79: are you motu yet?
[11:13] <neversfelde> aerztelogger: would you have a look at the new bilbo package?
[11:13] <lex79> nope
[11:14] <aerztelogger> kubotu: np
[11:14] <kubotu> aerztelogger doesn't exist on last.fm, perhaps they need to: lastfm user <username>
[11:14] <aerztelogger> oh dear
[11:14] <aerztelogger> kubotu: lastfm user apachelogger
[11:14] <kubotu> incorrect usage, ask for help using 'kubotu: help lastfm'
[11:14] <aerztelogger> hmmmm
[11:14] <neversfelde> mhh, REVU not loading
[11:14] <aerztelogger> kubotu: help lastfm
[11:14] <kubotu> last.fm plugin - topics: events, artist, album, track, now, set, who, compare, shouts, friends, neighbors, (loved|recent)tracks, top(albums|tracks|artists), weekly(album|artist|track)chart
[11:15] <aerztelogger> kubotu: help lastfm set
[11:15] <kubotu> lastfm set user <user> => associate your current irc nick with a last.fm user. lastfm set verb <present>, <past> => set your preferred now playing/just played verbs. default "is listening to" and "listened to".
[11:15] <aerztelogger> kubotu: lastfm set user apachelogger
[11:15] <kubotu> okay, I'll remember that aerztelogger is apachelogger on last.fm
[11:15] <aerztelogger> kubotu: np
[11:15] <kubotu> apachelogger is listening to "Alles für Dich" by Die Ärzte [Rebell, 1999]; see http://www.last.fm/user/apachelogger for more
[11:15] <aerztelogger> neversfelde: ^
[11:15] <neversfelde> lastfm neversfelde
[11:15] <neversfelde> mhh
[11:15] <aerztelogger> uh, council votes are over already
[11:16] <neversfelde> here it is http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/bilbo
[11:32] <aerztelogger> neversfelde: revud
[11:35] <neversfelde> aerztelogger: I think with ospdev there is the same problem that exists with kde-apps, but I will have a look at it again. Thank you
[11:36] <aerztelogger> ospdev doesn't use UID'ed names for the downloads, so it should be watchable one way or another
[11:37] <neversfelde> ok
[11:46] <CIA-76> kubuntu: apachelogger * r115 kdebase-workspace/debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[11:46] <CIA-76> kubuntu: Port kubuntu_11_fix_root_only_kcms.diff to KDE 4.3. Proudly provided
[11:46] <CIA-76> kubuntu: by the Fedora-KDE team (enhanced with our icon hack).
[11:47] <aerztelogger> CIA \o/
[12:16] <cbr> hi
[12:16] <cbr> what's the matter with kubuntu
[12:16] <cbr> it says can't open /dev/null because of permissions and a lot of programs crash
[12:19] <Quintasan> hi there
[12:20] <cbr> some udev stuff gone horribly wrong again
[12:20] <cbr> ?
[12:20] <Quintasan> looks like
[12:20] <Quintasan> karmic?
[12:20] <cbr> yes
[12:20] <Quintasan> I'm not updating :P
[12:27] <CIA-76> Kubuntu: apachelogger * r6 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/process.rb: Make list-processor actually do a l10n checkout if not available.
[12:27] <aerztelogger> cbr: older kernel doesn't help?
[12:38] <CIA-76> Kubuntu: apachelogger * r7 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/process.rb:
[12:38] <CIA-76> Kubuntu: * Enhance blacklist
[12:38] <CIA-76> Kubuntu: * Try to take the launchpad conversion from _ to - into account (somewhat)
[12:54]  * aerztelogger is wondering why neither k3b nor konversation have desktop_*.pot files in KDE svn
[13:03] <aerztelogger> my quassel icon is blinking and I aint got no idea why :D
[13:03] <aerztelogger> Sput: quassel is the broken
[13:04] <lex79> try with show hide buffers
[13:05] <lex79> launchpad bug 395481
[13:12] <aerztelogger> I don't hide buffers
[13:13]  * aerztelogger thinks that he stripped the list of launchpad translation templates to remove to the point where it makes most sense
[13:16] <CIA-76> Kubuntu: apachelogger * r8 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/process.rb: Finalize list-processor's ignore arrays, the output now should be pretty much perfect.
[13:37] <CIA-76> Kubuntu: apachelogger * r9 kde-l10n-orphans-parser/list-processor/ (karmic-templates-kubuntu.log process.rb): Update with new templates list.
[13:50] <aerztelogger> lex79: the fix for k3b+oxygen is inefficient
[13:50] <aerztelogger> lex79: kdebase-runtime needs to depend on oxygen-icons
[13:51] <aerztelogger> k3b depends on kdebase-runtime
[13:51] <aerztelogger> so does any other KDE application I suppose
[13:51] <aerztelogger> so instead of making each application depend on oxygen-icons, we should make kdebase-runtime depend
[14:33] <dajomu> anyone here?
[14:36] <dajomu> I tried to install Karmic but got this message: "Udevd[1974]: Worker 2120 unexpectedly returned with 0" and this one "[380.044468] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical end_request: I/O error on device sro, block.
[16:05] <Blizzz> is there are know memory leak in 4.3 rc? my swap gets flooded
[16:18] <DaskreeCH> Blizzz: maybe. Not known by me. What do you have open?
[16:19] <Blizzz> DaskreeCH: Amarok, Konqueror, Konversation, Kopete, Choqok, Kile, OOo
[16:19] <Blizzz> nothing unusual ;)
[16:20]  * DaskreeCH laughs. What's using memeory?
[16:21] <Blizzz> DaskreeCH: Xorg  ~10%, Amarok ~5%, Konqueror ~3%, Kontact ~3%
[16:22] <DaskreeCH> How much of your Memory is cache?
[16:22] <Blizzz> 1271 MB (2GB total)
[16:23] <Blizzz> if atop shows a blinking red line this is presumably indicating that something is not ok?
[16:24] <Blizzz> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/805 (outtake, the highlighted ones)
[16:25] <Blizzz> DSK is usually normal, and PAG 50:50, but SWP is blinking red the whole time
[16:34] <Blizzz> DaskreeCH: another effect is, that suspend to RAM gets useless. waking up takes hours, afterwards swap is totally filled up and for everything you do disk is working as hell. eventually there is no chance but reboot.
[16:46] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi there, I asked already in #ubuntu+1 and #kubuntu; I installed kdelinve in gnome, recommended packages and all the rest, in karmic, but I don't have icons in toolbars and buttons, some dependency must be missing but I don't know what
[16:58] <Blizzz> need a reboot :(
[17:04] <Quintasan> Le-Chuck_ITA: do you have oxygen icons installed?
[17:04]  * Quintasan thinks kde libs depend on oxygen
[17:04] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Quintasan: I don't, installing it now
[17:04] <Quintasan> Le-Chuck_ITA: kde-icons-oxygen
[17:05] <tsimpson> maybe it's bug #395418
[17:06] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Quintasan: kdelibs-data depends only on hicolor icons
[17:06] <Le-Chuck_ITA> ah yes
[17:06] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Now I have icons in kdenlive, thanks a lot.
[17:06] <Quintasan> np :)
[17:32] <DaskreeCH> Blizzz: What version of KDE?
[17:32] <Blizzz> DaskreeCH: 4.3 RC
[17:33] <DaskreeCH> hmm haven't been running that long enough to know. How fast does swap fill up?
[17:34] <Blizzz> oh. let me think.
[17:34] <Blizzz> the 2gb of swap i have are filled up in let's say 6hrs
[17:35] <Blizzz> or if i suspend to ram and wake up :) then in no time^^
[17:38] <maco> Blizzz, how much ram?
[17:38] <Blizzz> maco: 2gb each
[17:38] <maco> Blizzz, thats what ive got
[17:38] <maco> swap usually doesnt go over 1gb in use though
[17:38] <maco> er wait....i have 2gb ram and 4gb swap
[17:39] <Blizzz> maco: it didn't used to here, too, but that was before 4.3 rc
[17:40] <maco> i just booted like an hour ago, so its only just starte to swap a coupl mb
[17:41] <Blizzz> mh, in the 40min since my last reboot 107mb of swap are used. there is something wrong.
[17:55]  * Blizzz is out for a walk
[17:57] <Riddell> ryanakca: getting into Debian Qt KDE team?
[18:32] <ryanakca> Riddell: Aye
[18:33] <ryanakca> Riddell: along with the Debian Python Apps one. Helping out with two teams should be ample work, along with the Kubuntu website and what not on this side.
[18:51] <Blizzz> re
[18:54] <nhandler> ryanakca: Speaking of the Kubuntu website, for Bug 389955, didn't we decide that the javascript would be fine to use? Also, any idea when the sys admins will push the changes?
[19:07] <nixternal> installing Kubuntu on the mini now...so far so good
[19:21] <seele> nixternal: netbook edition or just regular kubuntu?
[19:23] <nixternal> I will put netbook edition on there once it is installed since there isn't a cd for it yet
[19:23] <nixternal> and netbook edition == regular kubuntu right now, so I get to start from the beginning and start working on KDE MID and Kubuntu Netbook Edition :)
[19:24] <nixternal> one thing I liked with the Dell Ubuntu is that you can switch to the regular desktop or the netbook edition
[19:24] <nixternal> and Dell really screws up Ubuntu big time..it is really buggy, super slow, a real mess
[19:24] <nixternal> it looks just OK to me
[19:24] <nixternal> I want to try UNR as it looks decent
[19:25] <nixternal> what I have seen thus far from KDE though, I am not a fan of...it just doesn't look right to me, so I am hoping to help out there a bit
[19:43] <lex79> Tonio_: have you time to sponsor konversation ? :)
[19:44] <Tonio_> lex79: sure, url ?
[19:44] <lex79> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/+bug/395450
[19:44] <lex79> thx :P
[19:53] <nixternal> where is jjesse when you need him
[19:53] <nixternal> Kubuntu will not run on this bad boy
[19:56] <lex79> launchpad bug 395481 395276
[19:56] <lex79> uhm kubotu :(
[19:57] <lex79> launchpad bug 395276
[19:57] <lex79> ok :P
[20:33] <ryanakca> nhandler: Yes, we will be using javascript. I just haven't gotten around to fixing it, I've been camping for the past week
[20:34] <ryanakca> nhandler: As for when the sysadmins will push the changes, it'll be whenever I finish the changes + two to three weeks... so, figure within the next two weeks to a month.
[20:51] <maco> hey guys, is plasma broken?
[21:01] <Quintasan> maco: Why it should be?
[21:02]  * Quintasan wonders if anyone can help with with vim
[21:02] <Quintasan> argh
[21:04] <maco> i might be able to
[21:04] <maco> and it seems broken here... i dont get knotify popups (tray shows there's 1 notification, but it wont display it when clicked), and i cant get kmix to close
[21:05] <maco> Quintasan, er, i meant i might be able to help on vim
[21:11] <Quintasan> maco: I'm trying to learn regexp. but vim looks only in current line. I tried s/pattern/pattern2/g but it didn't work
[21:11] <Quintasan> maco: I have same issue, try killing it
[21:12] <maco> g just does it for every instance on that line
[21:13] <maco> you want :%s/
[21:13] <maco> instead of :s/
[21:14] <Quintasan> ah
[21:14] <Quintasan> thanks
[21:16] <ryanakca> Can someone push https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/395604 through please?
[21:18] <maco> Quintasan, you may also find ".,.+3s/" interesting. it says "from this line til 3 lines from now, substitute..."
[21:19] <Quintasan> maco: will write it somewhere :P
[21:36] <nixternal> :%s/foo/bar/g
[21:36] <nixternal> Quintasan: ^^
[21:37] <nixternal> though I think :s/foo/bar/g will work all the same
[21:37] <Quintasan> nixternal: second one looks for all instances in line you are currently in :P
[21:38] <nixternal> the g should fix that though, if not chalk up another vim failure :p
[21:39]  * Quintasan misses block mode, Kate's ctrl+v == paste
[21:58] <ryanakca> Quintasan: Vim has block mode too, :help visual-block ... however, if you want ^v as paste, I'm sure you could remap it in your .vimrc...
[21:59] <Quintasan> ryanakca: I'm using Vi input mode in Kate :P
[22:00] <ryanakca> Quintasan: Oh. Ewww... that sounds wierd.
[22:01] <Quintasan> ryanakca: I though so, but with Konsole plugin and tab bar it rocks :D
[22:04] <ryanakca> Quintasan: Doesn't :sp or :vsp along with ^w j or ^w k do the same thing as tabs?
[22:13] <Riddell> ~twitter update dinner party in the KDE penthouse suite
[22:13] <kubotu> status updated
[22:39] <Blizzz> after 5 ½hrs ~80MB of my swap are unused :-/
[23:19] <vorian> yo nixternal
[23:19] <vorian> I'm at O'Hair
[23:22] <nixternal> poor vorian
[23:22] <nixternal> how long are you there for?
[23:31] <claydoh> how hard would it be to convince someone to work on a KDE/Konq cleint for ubuntuone?
[23:31] <maco> ryanakca, it does the same as panes, not tabs
[23:32] <maco> nixternal, nope, youre getting it wrong
[23:32] <maco> nixternal, no g = replace first instance on this line
[23:32] <maco> nixternal, g = replace all instances on this line
[23:32] <maco> nixternal, % & no g = first instance on every line
[23:32] <maco> nixternal, % & g = all instances on all lines
[23:36] <vorian> nixternal: til 7
[23:36] <PingJocky> vorian: your at ohare till 7?
[23:36] <PingJocky> damn... im sorry
[23:37] <maco> claydoh, umm....the regular ubuntuone client works with dolphin just fine
[23:37]  * claydoh realizes its wishful thinking right now
[23:38] <claydoh> it does? integrated I mean
[23:38] <claydoh> like in nautilus
[23:38]  * claydoh is using it himself, paying for the extra space :)
[23:39] <claydoh> it works fine using like dropbox
[23:39] <claydoh> but I have had 3 people recently get literelaly angry at the extra deps neede to be installed :(
[23:41] <nixternal> vorian: what time did you get in?
[23:41] <nixternal> maco: that's because vim sucks and doesn't do regex correctly then
[23:41] <nixternal> PingJocky: how about you take me out to dinner tonight? I am on my way over! :)
[23:42] <PingJocky> come over.. i have food!
[23:42] <maco> nixternal, it's per-line regex
[23:43] <nixternal> it's per-shite regex
[23:43] <nixternal> PingJocky: still raining by you?
[23:43] <PingJocky> not really
[23:43] <maco> claydoh, umm i never used it with nautilus, but if i start the ubuntuone client then put stuff in ~/Ubuntu\ One in Dolphin, the little ubuntuone logo starts spinning in the tray and then after a while of data transmission, it stops, and everything's all synced
[23:44] <PingJocky> ill feed you, you teach me Qt + C++
[23:44] <claydoh> maco: yes, it works nicely :)
[23:44] <nixternal> beer too?
[23:44] <PingJocky> nope, youll have to get that or i can pick some up
[23:44] <claydoh> maco: bug #395357 is the latest, and most angry :(
[23:44] <nixternal> i will fill my camelpack up with some beer and start pedaling :p
[23:45] <PingJocky> btw, pidgin was causing my audio problems
[23:45] <PingJocky> come on over...
[23:45] <maco> claydoh, oh that just plain didnt work for me :P yay for dpkg on the cli
[23:45] <nixternal> my computer just yelled at me..it said.... "CONGRATULATIONS! YOU WON!"
[23:45] <nixternal> stupid ads
[23:46] <PingJocky> where do i file Kubuntu bugs?
[23:47] <claydoh> maco: I just installed it vis kpackagekit on my karmic box :) yay for kpackagekit not barfing this once :)
[23:47] <maco> PingJocky, same place as ubuntu bugs :)
[23:47] <PingJocky> maco: right on!
[23:50] <vorian> nixternal: got here at 515ish
[23:51] <vorian> my kids are going nuts
[23:52] <vorian> its just a layover from UT to OH
[23:53] <PingJocky> they have a cool exibit for kids at one of the security checkpoints
[23:54] <claydoh> nixternal: would beer be a motivator or a performance enhancer :)
[23:54] <claydoh> nixternal: I managed almost 5 miles today, in some light rain - my fave time to ride:)
[23:54] <maco> eep! i dont think i could ride 5 miles
[23:55] <maco> maybe 2 or 3 if i had empty saddlebags and no backpack...
[23:56] <claydoh> 5 flat miles
[23:56] <claydoh> not to bad, I an 300+lbs and have high blood pressure, it wasn't too bad
[23:57] <claydoh> when i was  fit and 19, I managed to do a 44 mile ride, nothing campared to Tour De nixternal here :)
[23:58]  * claydoh is going to enjoy watching the tour de france in hi def this year