[00:07] <akgraner> BUGabundo, hey!
[00:12] <billybigrigger> wow, does empathy ever need some work
[00:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I installed the gnome shell from source, just to try, and now every terminal I launch opens in ~/gnome-shell/source/gnome-shell/src (this in karmic)
[00:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> do you know if there is some gnome-terminal setting for this?
[00:16] <penguin42> Le-Chuck_ITA: Did you start the terminal from that directory?
[00:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> no :)
[00:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I run them from a button in the panel
[00:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but I ran gnome-shell from that dir
[00:16] <Le-Chuck_ITA> so perhaps it changed some gnome environment variable
[00:17]  * Le-Chuck_ITA logs out and in again
[00:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> my terminals are ok now :) sorry for noise
[00:58] <patapouf> Hi, I wanna repport a problem, but first I want to get the kernel stack trace. Is there any solution to produce a logs when the kernel 'crash' during the boot process ?
[01:22] <ryanakca> How do I change the default keyboard map?
[01:23] <ryanakca> (X server's, not just KDE/GNOME/XFCE's
[02:22] <fosco_> hi
[02:22] <bobesponja> hey
[02:22] <fosco_> sudo: gdmsetup: command not found <-- do you know something about this in karmic?
[02:22] <bobesponja> booting with 2.6.31 doesn't work so I'm falling back to the latest 2.6.30, anyone has the same issue?
[02:23] <fosco_> bobesponja: .31 has some issues with graphics drivers
[02:23] <bobesponja> ok thanks for the info
[02:23] <bobesponja> I'm on intel
[02:24] <bobesponja> Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[02:24] <billybigrigger> nvidia + .31 working here
[02:27] <fosco_> anything about missing gdmsetup?
[02:27] <billybigrigger> nope
[02:27] <fosco_> ummm,
[02:28] <billybigrigger> when did you get that?
[02:28] <fosco_> right now
[02:28] <billybigrigger> partial upgrade? or when trying to log in?
[02:28] <fosco_> trying to change gdm theme
[02:28] <billybigrigger> uhhh
[02:28] <billybigrigger> pretty sure that gdm doesn't have a gui config tool
[02:28] <billybigrigger> so your trying to change the gdm theme for the old gdm
[02:29] <billybigrigger> someone correct me if im wrong?
[02:29] <fosco_> gdmsetup worked 2 or 3 days ago :-?
[02:30] <fosco_> ok, i can wait, no prob :)
[04:30] <DanaG> Mmm, love the 20-second boot times.
[05:14] <akio> im loving karmic UNR
[05:17] <DanaG> Any new news on the high-keycode issue I had mentioned before?
[05:18] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/313514
[05:23] <DanaG> mmyeah.
[05:47] <DanaG> Oh hey, I figured out how to change the new gdm's settings:
[05:47] <DanaG> Be at login screen, then switch to console.  Then do this:
[05:47] <DanaG> export DISPLAY=:0
[05:47] <DanaG> sudo -u gdm gconf-editor
[05:47] <DanaG> or xterm works, too.
[05:47] <DanaG> Oh, and you can enable the volume control keys there, too!
[07:32] <nandemonai> Anyone running Karmic in virtualbox? For some reason the guest additions driver has died since the kernel update. Tried reinstalling it and no errors but X still spits the dummy.
[08:16] <nhasian> nandemonai, did you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ?
[08:16] <nandemonai> nhasian: Yeah I did, that's the weird thing. No errors either.
[08:17] <nhasian> nandemonai, since the kernel update in your host OS or the 2.6.31 update in karmic?
[08:18] <nandemonai> Oh wait sorry..
[08:18] <nandemonai> Guest update.
[08:18] <nandemonai> No I didn't run vboxdrv update cause vbox runs fine, it's the Karmic guest that is having trouble.
[08:19] <nandemonai> Ran the guest additions install twice after the kernel upgrade (in the guest) but no dice.
[08:19] <nandemonai> (miss read what you said at first).
[08:22] <nhasian> i havent reinstalled virtualbox since i did a fresh karmic install.  next i'll probably try kvm since its built into the kernel
[08:23] <nandemonai> I guess I'll just revert to vesa on the guest until I can figure it out.
[08:46] <oldude67> ok if there is anyone alive in here tonight i could use some help...hosed my system by doing the wrong type of update this morning now i cant get gdm to work, have already did dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it just keeps saying done and i get the kdm instead..any suggestions?
[09:20] <oldude67> ok i typed in dpkg-reconfigure kdm and it said i was using gdm already is what i want to use but it keeps defaulting me back to kdm, why?
[09:25] <dupondje> fast-user-switch-applet is broken ?
[09:27] <robin0800> dupondje:   think both gdm and compiz broken at the momment sice yesterday
[09:31] <oldude67> robin0800: i got told that gdm got broken cause i did the wrong update yesterday morning i did a sudo ap-get update instead of a sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe_update
[09:31] <oldude67> this caused a particial update and now my gdm is hosed.
[09:34] <oldude67> ugh how ever you spell the dang word.
[09:34] <oldude67> ugh
[09:38] <nandemonai> Oh..
[09:38] <nandemonai> So GDM is borked eh?
[09:38] <nandemonai> Here I was assuming it was my vbox guest additions driver.
[09:38] <oldude67> well yeah mine is..lol
[09:39] <robin0800> nandemonai:  and mine and compiz too won't start
[09:40] <nandemonai> Makes sense now lol
[10:00] <iPoRn> did any of you, updates the "gdm" package, and when on the login screen, had a new splash-screen?
[10:02] <yofel> iPoRn: you mean the login screen looks like the fedora one? yes
[10:03] <iPoRn> do you have any ideia how to change that?
[10:03] <iPoRn> c'os on the startup-manager, i can't change it
[10:04] <yofel> iPoRn: since there is no GUI configuration tool for it yet you'll have to stick with it
[10:04] <iPoRn> ok, tks
[10:05] <eagles0513875> can any one help me trouble shoot a wifi problem
[10:05] <yofel> !ask | eagles0513875
[10:06] <eagles0513875> for some reason i am unable to connect to my access point its wpa encrypted but it works on jaunty but not on karmic it seems that the access point denies association with a code 13
[10:09] <eagles0513875> i remember that issue being a bug in jaunty but it seems to have resurfaced in karmic alpha 2
[10:11] <eagles0513875> yofel: any idea as to my issue
[10:24] <yofel> eagles0513875: not really, what's your card? also: wpa or wpa2? mixed mode?
[10:25] <eagles0513875> my card is a broadcom bcm4311 rev2 card
[10:25] <eagles0513875> im using the b43-fwcutter
[10:25] <eagles0513875> let me check if wpa or wpa2
[10:26] <eagles0513875> yofel: its wpa2 mixed
[10:26] <yofel> I'm no expert here, and since I don't know anything about broadcom cards I don't think I can help you, sry
[10:27] <eagles0513875> ok will go hunt on launchpad
[11:11] <eagles0513875> anyone a wifi guru thats around cuz im having issues connecting to my wpa2 mixed wifi ap
[11:33] <BUGabundo> bom dia ppl
[11:38] <eagles0513875> morning
[11:38] <eagles0513875> BUGabundo: since you seem to be the bugspert lol
[11:39] <eagles0513875> are there bugs against wpa2 mixed encrypted connections on karmic
[11:39] <BUGabundo> not that I know
[11:40] <BUGabundo> but this cycle I've been soooooooooooooo backloged :((((
[11:40] <BUGabundo> eagles0513875: last time I tried it, it WFM
[11:40] <eagles0513875> wfm????
[11:40] <eagles0513875> wpa2 mixed mode works fine in jaunty what changed in karmic
[11:41] <BUGabundo> Works For Me
[11:41] <BUGabundo> eagles0513875: lots changed! entire new kernel stack
[11:41] <BUGabundo> and new iwtools
[11:41] <eagles0513875> you able to connect to a wpa2 mixed mode connection on karmic alpha 2
[11:41] <robin0800> BUGabundo:  gdm and compiz appear broke after new  fast switcher applet yesterday  any bugs raised?
[11:41] <eagles0513875> cuz i just upgraded from jaunty
[11:41] <cwillu> eagles0513875, try both 2.6.30 and 2.6.31 kernels.  If it's broken in .31 and working in .30, then make sure you file a bug if you haven't already.  .31 is still under development, and that sort of breakage is completely normal
[11:42] <BUGabundo> robin0800: I have all updates and it works
[11:42] <eagles0513875> cwillu: its not working in 30
[11:42] <BUGabundo> robin0800: someone else complained about it yesterday
[11:42] <eagles0513875> cwillu: should i try go back to the jaunty kernels which i still have installed
[11:42] <cwillu> eagles0513875, worth a shot, yes
[11:42]  * BUGabundo pokes cwillu with a stick full of Saudades!!
[11:42] <eagles0513875> rebooting now
[11:43]  * BUGabundo finally remembers to file a bug on nvidia hue
[11:43]  * cwillu pokes BUGabundo with a I-got-up-20-hours-ago,I'm-just-filling-out-my-time-sheets-so-I-can-get-paid-and-then-I'm-going-to-bed-for-16-hours :p
[11:43] <eagles0513875> here is something that isnt right
[11:43] <cwillu> it's a whinekabob!
[11:43] <robin0800> BUGabundo:  perhaps its just the open drivers that have problems
[11:43] <eagles0513875> cwillu: here is a new problem
[11:44] <eagles0513875> its showing me verbose out put of shutdown then goign back right into booting no kernel options no grub showing up no nothing
[11:44] <BUGabundo> poor cwillu
[11:44] <cwillu> eagles0513875, are you shutting down or rebooting?
[11:44] <eagles0513875> i cant choose me kernel :(
[11:44] <eagles0513875> rebooting
[11:44] <cwillu> do a shutdown
[11:44] <BUGabundo> cwillu what has your job making you do!?! you haven't told me what's up since last two weeks
[11:44] <cwillu> BUGabundo, under paid programmer this week :p
[11:44] <BUGabundo> :((
[11:45] <eagles0513875> haha better the no job student like me
[11:45] <BUGabundo> cwillu new job for me this week. HPUX admin
[11:45] <cwillu> but, come monday, I've got lots and lots of points scored with everyone at the office, and a stranglehold on the new product line they're putting together (or rather, I'm putting together)
[11:45] <cwillu> BUGabundo, ooo, fun fun :)
[11:46] <BUGabundo> really?
[11:46] <BUGabundo> never touched it before! totally new experience!
[11:46] <eagles0513875> weeeeeeeee broken reboot script
[11:46] <BUGabundo> >200 servers under my command AAHAHAA
[11:46] <eagles0513875> when did karmic go to kernel 31
[11:47] <eagles0513875> but funny thing is i had this problem in also 30 and now in 31
[11:47] <eagles0513875> trying with 2.6.28-13
[11:47] <BUGabundo> eagles0513875: 3 days ago
[11:47] <eagles0513875> ok
[11:47] <cwillu> BUGabundo, I'd suggest reading the man pages in preference to just typing <command> -h or <command>.  Other unixes are kinda bad for doing things by default that you might not want done :p
[11:48] <cwillu> just a free tip :p
[11:48] <BUGabundo> eagles0513875: that will break your GPU
[11:48] <BUGabundo> cwillu like really old version of VI ?
[11:48] <cwillu> BUGabundo, bah, you need to be able to work that anyway :p
[11:48] <eagles0513875> BUGabundo: what you mean
[11:48] <eagles0513875> well seems like the bug is still there in 2.6.28-13 and 2.6.31
[11:49]  * cwillu notices that his timesheets start out very short, snappy, and full of progress, and gradually grow less succinct, more wordy, and describing more addled-brained behaviour as he browses through his week
[11:49] <cwillu> maybe going into work tomorrow isnt' such a good idea :p
[11:50] <BUGabundo> cwillu should I had nvidia-bugreport.sh data to my bug?
[11:52]  * cwillu falls asleep facedown on his keyboardssdffdsfk fggffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[11:52] <eagles0513875> hahaha
[11:52] <eagles0513875> im off to file a bug on launch pad against what i have no idea
[11:53] <eagles0513875> BUGabundo: did you upgrade from jaunty or not
[11:53] <eagles0513875> are you on a clean install
[11:53] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/395476
[11:53] <cwillu> I mean seriously, when you need to figure out the formatting code to get openoffice to display a time after 24:00 as a number larger than 24...
[11:54] <BUGabundo> eagles0513875: I did... long time ago.... one week after JJ came out
[11:54] <cwillu> (it's [HH]:MM, btw)
[11:54] <eagles0513875> hahah also BUGabundo speaking of nvidia graphics for some reason on karmic my 1280x800 seems alot higher then that lol
[11:54] <eagles0513875> everything is so much smaller or the start bar on the bottom shrank
[11:54] <BUGabundo> thata not resolution its Font Size or DPI
[11:55]  * yofel wonders what idiot programmed BUGabundos bios... <To Be Filled By O.E.M.>
[11:56] <yofel> good morning
[11:56] <eagles0513875> lol
[11:56] <BUGabundo> yofel: right! bad and closed OEM
[11:57] <BUGabundo> its an asustek barebone S37S
[11:57] <BUGabundo> can't find a bios update either!
[11:57] <BUGabundo> have to go!
[11:57] <BUGabundo> bbl
[11:58]  * BUGabundo $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/time; echo bbl
[12:00] <eagles0513875> cwillu: :( did you do a clean install of karmic or upgraded from jaunty
[12:01] <cwillu> clean install?  that's silly talk :p
[12:02] <cwillu> that laptop's been upgraded since edgy, and my desktop since hoary :p
[12:02] <cwillu> I'm definitely going to bed now, sorry :p
[12:04] <eagles0513875> humm
[12:11] <yofel> that hue bug is interesting: mplayer - works, vlc - works, totem - wrong hue, after I tried totem the hue was wrong in mplayer and vlc as well...
[12:11] <yofel> gstreamer broken?
[12:20] <cbr> what's the matter with karmic at the moment?
[12:21] <cbr> X crashes
[12:21] <eagles0513875> cbr: doesnt for me
[12:21] <cbr> and irssi did too if i didnt do chmod 777 /dev/null
[12:21] <cbr> but X still crashes
[12:21] <cbr> looks like udev fuckups?
[12:21] <eagles0513875> strange im having issues connecting to wifi
[12:21] <eagles0513875> !language | cbr
[12:22] <cbr> sorry, didn't find another word to appropriately describe the situation
[12:23] <cbr> anyway, yeah.. i'm X-less
[12:23] <cbr> pretty frustrating :p
[12:24] <eagles0513875> cbr: you try reconfiguring x
[12:25] <cbr> which package?
[12:26] <yofel> cbr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think
[12:27] <yofel> wasn't there also an option for this in the recovery mode?
[12:27] <cbr> X starts for me anyway
[12:27] <cbr> KDM displays
[12:27] <cbr> but when i try to open a desktop or window manager, it crashes
[12:27] <yofel> cbr: what card?
[12:27] <cbr> intel gm965
[12:28] <yofel> anything useful in Xorg.0.log.old ?
[12:28] <eagles0513875> cbr: you can drop down to init 1 and reconfigure x that way also try run fsck as of late i have found that fixes alot of interesting issue
[12:28] <cbr> oh wait
[12:29] <cbr> now it magically starts again
[12:29] <eagles0513875> lol
[12:29] <eagles0513875> woohoo
[12:30]  * eagles0513875 wonders what the odds of fsck fixing my wifi connectivity are
[12:32] <cbr> well yeah, X started
[12:32] <cbr> but sound is still abort
[12:32] <cbr> and all kinds of programs didnt autostart
[13:25] <tgpraveen> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539142
[13:45] <borschty> hi, the patch to https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/395103 causes me to be unable to login, gdm crashes after selecting my default user, does anybody have an idea how to get a good backtrace of this? i already tried "sudo gdb /usr/bin/gdm-binary" but no crash showed up
[13:46] <borschty> ah, possibly it isn't gdm-binary that is crashing but gdm-simple-greeter, maybe i should try gdb on that one
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:15] <BUGabundo> hey BluesKaj
[14:16] <BUGabundo> yofel: could you reproduce the totem bug?
[14:16] <BUGabundo> 'cause for me it happens on any player
[14:16] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395476
[14:17] <BluesKaj> hi BUGabundo ...went bacj to ff3.0 . ff3.5 wouldn't link thru thunderbird URLs even after editing the config editir to make FF3.5 t6he default browser
[14:18] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: can you please try with FF3.6?
[14:18]  * BluesKaj examines swollen fingers
[14:19] <BUGabundo> what's up with your finguers BluesKaj ?
[14:22] <BluesKaj> jamming yestertday/last night
[14:22] <BluesKaj> give the kit a good workout
[14:24] <BluesKaj> ok got the i686 tarball , ff3.6
[14:24] <BluesKaj> err gave
[14:25] <BluesKaj> damn plasma workspace keeps crashing as well
[14:25] <BUGabundo> tarbal???
[14:26] <BluesKaj> firefox-3.6a1pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2
[14:26] <BUGabundo> I meant https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[14:34] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, ok thx
[14:42] <BUGabundo> anyone else with touchpad probs?
[14:42] <BUGabundo> mine won't move the cursor!
[14:42] <BUGabundo> and audio flat bugs!
[14:44] <BluesKaj> get a mouse , i use one even with the laptop ...hate them touchpads
[14:44] <BUGabundo> du
[14:45] <BUGabundo> I'm using a mouse
[14:45] <BUGabundo> but a touchpad not working is a bug
[14:45] <BUGabundo> I need someone to confirm it
[14:45] <BluesKaj> sry, i have jaunty on our lappy
[14:56] <maxb> touchpad working fine here
[14:57] <BUGabundo> :((
[14:57] <maxb> type of machine?
[15:01] <BUGabundo> laptop?
[15:01] <BUGabundo> barebone, unbranded
[15:02] <eagles0513875> BUGabundo: i cant confirm i dont have that issue
[15:02] <eagles0513875> im having wifi nightmares instead
[15:10] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi, I have a bug in karmic which is fixed upstream in mesa: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22428 can someone help me understanding if the fix will naturally reach karmic or I should report it?
[15:11] <Le-Chuck_ITA> perhaps better in the bugs channel
[15:12] <BUGabundo> Le-Chuck_ITA: or motu if it is in universe
[15:13] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, so what is the proper name to call FF3.6 in T-bird about.config to make it the default browser ... the strange thing is , if i make it (firefox-3.6 %u) the global default browser,thunderbird doesn't recognize it as such.
[15:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I hope mesa is not in universe, in fact I do not know the correspondence in ubuntu to that upstream package
[15:14] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: please ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam
[15:14] <BUGabundo> !info mesa
[15:14] <BUGabundo> !search mesa
[15:15] <Le-Chuck_ITA> hmm
[15:15] <BUGabundo> too many packages with its name
[15:15] <BUGabundo> Le-Chuck_ITA: $ apt-cache search mesa
[15:15] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, you suggested I try FF3.6 so i assumed you were using it too , but i guess you use kamail or some such , right ?
[15:16] <BUGabundo> I am
[15:16] <BUGabundo> but im not using tbird
[15:16] <BUGabundo> kmail here!
[15:16] <BUGabundo> systemsetting does the work ok for me
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yeah , thought so
[15:16] <BluesKaj> yeah i'v eused kamil in the past , i just don't care for it's quirks
[15:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> BUGabundo: there are so many packages related to libmesa, it seems that the source package is "mesa" but launchpad can't find it
[15:17] <BUGabundo> quirks?
[15:17] <BUGabundo> Le-Chuck_ITA: thers no such package
[15:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I see but, apt-cache showsrc
[15:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> tells me that
[15:18] <BUGabundo> Source: mesa
[15:18] <BUGabundo> but you are right
[15:18] <BUGabundo> its the "source" LOL
[15:18] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I will type "mesa" in and see if it works :)
[15:19] <BUGabundo> $ apt-cache policy mesa
[15:19] <BUGabundo> W: Unable to locate package mesa
[15:20] <Le-Chuck_ITA> what's the ubuntu xorg development channel? I'll ask them
[15:21] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: blarg your not running a vm with karmic are you or karmic on a laptop by any chance are you
[15:22] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I'm using the wifi connection , cuz the other pc needs the ethernet cable
[15:23] <eagles0513875> i know but are you on karmic or jaunty
[15:23] <BluesKaj> karmic
[15:23] <eagles0513875> on a mixed wpa2 encrypted wifi connection
[15:23] <eagles0513875> cuz its not working for me
[15:24] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, wicd ?
[15:24] <eagles0513875> no the plasma widget
[15:24] <eagles0513875> never really tried wicd
[15:24] <BluesKaj> wicd is more stable and it remembers your settings , unlike the widget one
[15:25] <eagles0513875> the widget one does as well it seems like
[15:25] <rbrunhuber> eagles0513875: Which of the widgets are you using
[15:25] <BluesKaj> not on my setup
[15:25] <eagles0513875> the plasma-widget-network-manager thats in karmic rbrunhuber
[15:26] <BUGabundo> Le-Chuck_ITA: #ubuntu-x
[15:26] <rbrunhuber> eagles0513875: there is also a plasma-widget-networkmanagement
[15:26] <eagles0513875> is that required though
[15:26] <rbrunhuber> That is what I'm using. But it is not working either, eagles0513875
[15:26] <eagles0513875> ok so its not only me are you running 32bit or 64bit karmic
[15:27] <rbrunhuber> eagles0513875: 32 bit jaunty to karmic upgrade.
[15:27] <eagles0513875> me 64bit jaunt to karmic upgrade
[15:27] <eagles0513875> rbrunhuber: im not sure if you would like to file a bug and i can confirm it for ya
[15:28] <eagles0513875> rbrunhuber: i get 2 strange messages in dmessage regarding wifi which i have no idea what they mean
[15:28] <BluesKaj> filing a bug is fine but wicd should solve your widget network management probs , eagles0513875 rbrunhuber
[15:29] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i know but this is a regression if im not mistaken there was a bug in jaunty regarding connection issues with wpa encrypted wifi connections which was resolved
[15:29] <rbrunhuber> eagles0513875: As far as I see the networkmanager and wpa_supplicant are not working properly together.
[15:29] <eagles0513875> ya
[15:29] <eagles0513875> rbrunhuber: if you hunt down a similar bug from jaunty you can reconfirm it on karmic and i can as well
[15:30] <rbrunhuber> BluesKaj: The problem is that filling bugs against NetworkManger/plasmawidget/... has stopped being fun,  because someone steps up to suggest wicd.
[15:30] <eagles0513875> i might end up taking it upstream directly to kde dev in charge of it
[15:31] <rbrunhuber> BluesKaj: This does not help... to iron out the bugs in the other packages.
[15:31] <BluesKaj> nope eagles0513875 , that issue was not totally solved, the widget manger/management is still flaky \
[15:32] <eagles0513875> then how come in jaunty it works perfectly fine
[15:32] <eagles0513875> what is the current svn version from upstream of it
[15:33] <rbrunhuber> eagles0513875: BluesKaj: For me it did not work fine in jaunty, I had to go for the ppa version of the widget
[15:33] <eagles0513875> strange
[15:33] <eagles0513875> seems like one in karmic is svn 976478
[15:33] <BluesKaj> well, rbrunhuber I assume you want to get your own issue fixed before filing a bug ...most ppl have already switched to wicd because the widget manager is so unstable
[15:34] <BluesKaj> !wicd
[15:34] <eagles0513875> i would like to as well but its strange how there is a regression all of a sudden
[15:34] <eagles0513875> !info wicd
[15:34] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[15:34] <eagles0513875> hehe touche BluesKaj :)
[15:35] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, don't dwell on regressions , they are sometimes necessary , but not in this case , just switch to wicd and fix your problem
[15:36] <eagles0513875> ya will do that as we speak but have to run where i have one last free wired connection
[15:36] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: outa curiosity can i keep both installed or once i install wicd i remove the plasma widget
[15:36] <BluesKaj> wicd auto-replaces the widget manager
[15:37] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Thanks BUGabundo
[15:38] <BUGabundo> np Le-Chuck_ITA
[15:38] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: gotcha
[15:39] <rbrunhuber> BluesKaj: eagles0513875: I just created a script, that kills Networkmanager and uses wpa_supplicant and dhclient directly that works like a charm and it is fast!!!
[15:39] <eagles0513875> O_O
[15:39] <eagles0513875> elaborate rbrunhuber
[15:39] <eagles0513875> rbrunhuber: why not just uninstall networkmanager and install wpa_supplicant
[15:40] <eagles0513875> or are they dependencies of one another
[15:40] <rbrunhuber> eagles0513875: wpa_supplicant is a dependency of networkmanager
[15:40] <eagles0513875> gotcha how fast we talking about though cuz with network manager on jaunt on wifi to upgrade i was getting about 1.2mbps
[15:41] <rbrunhuber> eagles0513875: not the network speed is fast, but the connection time (1-2 seconds)
[15:41] <eagles0513875> interested what are connection times like with wicd BluesKaj
[15:42] <BluesKaj> if you want a gui type app for wifi then wicd is the way to go ...scripts are fine but I use both wired and wifi on this pc and our laptop dependeng on where we are situated
[16:00] <yofel> BUGabundo: back again, touchpad: mine works fine here (Thinkpad R61) - HUE Bug: I already commented on it ;) (I'm Philip) maybe something broken in gstreamer?
[16:00] <BUGabundo> yofel: I know you commented
[16:00] <BUGabundo> that's why I asked
[16:03] <yofel> BUGabundo: well, I can watch the video fine as long I use (S)Mplayer or vlc, but if I try Totem the HUE is wrong in all players from that on
[16:05] <BUGabundo> ok
[16:05] <BUGabundo> I guess I need to upstream it too
[16:08] <yofel> I think it's something in gstreamer, since the only references to HUE that grep found in totems source code were a function for the settings dialog and a gstreamer query
[16:09] <robin0800> '''''
[16:09] <robin0800> ''''
[16:09] <yofel> robin0800: bored?
[16:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> how to get all the kde dependencies without polluting gnome entirely? I have no icons in buttons in the interface of kdenlive
[16:16] <BUGabundo> Le-Chuck_ITA: instal kde-icons ?
[16:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> trying
[16:17] <Le-Chuck_ITA> but shouldn't they come as a dependency of something?
[16:21] <BUGabundo> nope
[16:21] <Le-Chuck_ITA> installed kde-icons-nuvola
[16:21] <Le-Chuck_ITA> nothing
[16:21] <BUGabundo> not until final snaptshot
[16:22] <Le-Chuck_ITA> sorry
[16:22] <Le-Chuck_ITA> didn't install
[16:22] <Le-Chuck_ITA> I am going crazy
[16:24] <BUGabundo> gnome 2.29 already !?
[16:26] <Le-Chuck_ITA> BUGabundo: installed kdeartwork-theme-icon but nope
[16:30] <BUGabundo> no idea
[16:30] <BUGabundo> Le-Chuck_ITA: ask on #kubuntu-devel
[16:30] <BUGabundo> yofel: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/395476 sent upstream
[17:36] <DanaG> 100% of the space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use
[17:36] <BUGabundo> woot
[17:36] <BUGabundo> I'm up to 95%
[17:36] <DanaG> That's my backup drive.
[17:36] <DanaG> 100% of the disk space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use
[17:37] <DanaG> Wow, it literally opens a new dialog saying that, once per minute.
[17:37] <DanaG> 100% of the disk space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use
[17:38] <DanaG> Now I have 3 of those windows.'
[17:39] <BUGabundo> lol
[17:39] <td123> hmm, is it a known bug that when a freshly installed alpha 2 system freezes when you do a partial upgrade? ~470 packages need updating. I'm also using vbox 3.0
[17:39] <DanaG> 4 of them.
[17:39]  * td123 is checking launchpad
[17:40] <DanaG> oh yeah, the update to GDM locked up my system.
[17:40] <DanaG> Now I have 5 of those notifications.
[17:40] <Zorael^2> Is the envyNG in karmic broken for anyone else? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/209874/
[17:41] <BUGabundo> td123: DON'T do parcial updates
[17:41] <BUGabundo> it means that something is still building!
[17:41] <BUGabundo> DanaG: _please_ stop counting!
[17:41] <BUGabundo> Zorael^2: wfm
[17:41] <td123> BUGabundo: oh
[17:42] <BUGabundo> td123: if you really want to install the remaining packages use aptitude
[17:42] <td123> BUGabundo: but would it matter if the whole virtual system freezes when it's still downloading the partial upgrade packages?
[17:42] <BUGabundo> td123: $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[17:43] <BUGabundo> td123: with partials, you will most prob removed required packages
[17:50] <DanaG> heh, now I have 15.
[17:52] <BUGabundo> DanaG: !!!!!!!
[17:53] <DanaG> I guess I should file a bug on that.
[17:54] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo::: i saw your bug report
[17:54] <billybigrigger> i sub'd it, but will be back to add to the report after the gym and some brunch
[17:55] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo::: don't know if i told you already, docky = the shit
[17:55] <billybigrigger> :P
[17:55] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: please pretty please change the way your IRC client autocompletes nicks!!!!
[17:55] <billybigrigger> haha
[17:55] <BUGabundo> !language | billybigrigger
[17:55] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo??? better?
[17:55] <BUGabundo> much
[17:55] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo??? ok
[17:56] <BUGabundo> ahaah
[17:56] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo??? what?
[17:56] <billybigrigger> :P
[17:56] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo, i guess a simple , will suffice eh?
[17:57] <BUGabundo> I like : better
[17:57] <BUGabundo> but anything is better then ::::::::
[17:57] <billybigrigger> then whats wrong with the triple threat?
[17:57] <billybigrigger> :::
[17:57] <billybigrigger> :)
[17:58] <billybigrigger> hehe, ok ill be back in a bit, we can argue about tab completion prettiness later
[18:22] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/395558
[18:23] <DanaG> and with that... I stop griping about it here.
[18:23] <DanaG> =þ
[18:23] <DanaG> and: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/240553
[18:28] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[18:28] <BUGabundo> right
[18:28] <BUGabundo> you already have TWO of those popup bugs right?
[18:29] <DanaG> nOT sure what you mean, actually.
[18:30] <DanaG> I haven't reported it myself, before.  I also couldn't find an existing report about it.
[18:30] <BUGabundo> DanaG: weren't you who also reported a bunch of popups about something else?
[18:30] <DanaG> I really don't remember, actually.
[18:31] <DanaG> heh, and with the 3D-windows plugin... now I have a literal "tower" of windows.
[18:31] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[19:11] <BUGabundo> http://files.getdropbox.com/u/112892/120percent.png
[19:11] <BUGabundo> PA at 120%
[19:11] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[19:16] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: hi
[19:16] <tgpraveen> BUGabundo: why does pidgin have a playback stream in that img?
[19:16] <BUGabundo> it was a ping
[19:50] <nixternal> anyone have karmic running on a dell mini 10v or similar?
[19:51] <BUGabundo> LOLOL nixternal
[19:51] <BUGabundo> bcurtis was just complaining about those
[19:51] <BUGabundo> actually the 9"
[19:51] <nixternal> well what did bcurtis say?
[19:51] <nixternal> issues with X?
[19:54] <BUGabundo> nixternal: bcurtis is not in this #
[19:54] <BUGabundo> _yet_
[20:15] <tgpraveen> anyone know how to bring ubottu to other rooms
[20:17] <billybigrigger> great i lost audio today
[20:17] <billybigrigger> binutils binutils-static readline-common
[20:17] <billybigrigger> those were my only updates
[20:24] <yofel> tgpraveen: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[20:24] <tgpraveen> yofel: thx
[20:34] <yofel> grmbl... why doesn't nautilus have a button to refresh the desktop?
[20:36] <guntbert> is there a way to download just the differences between my "daily" and the latest one (like with rsync)?
[20:37] <adam7> yofel: why do you need one?
[20:40] <yofel> adam7: I just created a symlink on the desktop to a file on a fs that doesn't get mounted on boot. The symlink works after I mount the fs, but the icon always shows a broken symlink :(
[21:20] <guntbert> for reference: I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage as answer to my question :-)
[21:21] <BUGabundo> eheh
[21:21] <BUGabundo> I had one for that
[21:21] <BUGabundo> even better then that one
[21:21] <BUGabundo> then cwillu made me a better one LOL
[21:22] <BUGabundo> guntbert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo/ISORsync
[21:22] <BUGabundo> uploading new one
[21:22] <guntbert> BUGabundo: nice, thank you :-)
[21:25] <BUGabundo> guntbert: refresh the page now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo/ISORsync
[21:26] <BUGabundo> darn... it list line breaks
[21:27] <guntbert> BUGabundo: :)
[21:28] <BUGabundo> *lost
[21:31] <BUGabundo> guntbert: should be ok now I hope https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo/ISORsync
[21:32] <guntbert> BUGabundo: looks definitely better - thx :-)
[22:27]  * cwillu has slept for 10 hours
[22:28] <cwillu> BUGabundo, that's funny.  It's definitely my code, I can tell from the coding style, but I have no memory of writing that :)
[22:28] <BUGabundo> cwillu: that's all? weren't you supposed to sleep 16h?
[22:28] <cwillu> I know
[22:28] <cwillu> must have been another one of those 24 hour days when I did that for you :)
[22:28] <BUGabundo> cwillu: jaunty alpha1 date
[22:30]  * cwillu wonders why he left the files owned as root
[22:31] <Twigathy> woah, that was crazy :O
[22:32] <Twigathy> The new version of the nvidia drivers just got installed... it logged me out of my xfce session, saving it, and brought me to a debian login screen where I could choose to resume the session ... >_<
[22:32] <cwillu> BUGabundo, after the time sudo ionice, add:  sudo chown $SUDO_USER:$SUDO_USER /home/bugabundo/temp/OS_isos/$2
[22:33] <cwillu> Twigathy, that's an xfce thing, although gnome can do it too
[22:33] <cwillu> but it's an application-by-application thing whether it works or not :p
[22:33] <Twigathy> well, everything seemed to survive it! :)
[22:34] <BUGabundo> cwillu: wfm... the isos are already there as reguler user  eheh
[22:34] <yofel> wasn't it gdm that caused that? o.O
[22:35] <BUGabundo> cwillu: gnome saved sessions is broken since JJ
[22:48]  * penguin42 wishes he knew why Karmic kept screen blanking
[22:52] <BUGabundo> penguin42: you are lucky! mine won't power save
[22:52] <BUGabundo> actucally my CPU is at 100%
[22:52] <BUGabundo> damn firefox and X and gconf-d
[22:52] <penguin42> BUGabundo: It just seems randomly to screenblank while I'm doing something
[22:54] <SKB> heh i have no sound
[22:55] <SKB> and trash is gone
[22:55]  * cwillu cheers!
[22:55] <SKB> and places doesn't work
[22:55] <cwillu> sounds like you haven't rebooted since upgrading or updating :p
[22:55] <SKB> and no auto-mount
[22:55] <SKB> i had to recompile hal and glibc
[22:56] <SKB> :D
[22:56] <cwillu> ah, so it's a self-inflicted scar :p
[22:56] <cwillu> you really should stop cutting yourself silly :p
[22:57] <SKB> the biggest suprise was no keyboar and mouse input after upgrade
[22:57]  * cwillu on the other hand should really buy some groceries
[22:57] <SKB> that's why i had to recompile some stuff :P
[22:57] <SKB> now, how te get my trash back? It should contain ~5GB by now :D
[22:58] <BUGabundo> SKB: forget hal
[22:58] <BUGabundo> sound: check with pavucontrol if you have any app lever below 50
[22:58] <BUGabundo> 50%
[22:59] <BUGabundo> trash is the 1st report so far
[22:59] <SKB> haven't got that app 0o
[22:59] <BUGabundo> SKB: I have no touchpad working and mouse is a bit slower
[22:59] <BUGabundo> SKB: ~/.local/Trash?
[23:00] <BUGabundo> SKB: install pavucontrol then, right?
[23:00] <BUGabundo> SKB: I would recommend you go with aptitude safe-upgrade
[23:00] <BUGabundo> you may have a few broken depdencies
[23:00] <BUGabundo> also check *if* your mirror is upto date
[23:01] <SKB> sound is pulse related :|
[23:01] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:01] <penguin42> BUGabundo: What hardware are you on having touchpad trouble?
[23:01] <BUGabundo> penguin42: forgot about you LOLOL
[23:01] <BUGabundo> penguin42: how do you check? lspci ?
[23:01] <BUGabundo> penguin42: GPM is broken meaning it will behave hearadict
[23:01] <penguin42> BUGabundo: No, I just mean what machin/manufacturer/model?
[23:02] <penguin42> oh if gpm is broken then that's not going to help
[23:02] <BUGabundo> your symptons look like the ones from jaunty or was it II ?
[23:03] <BUGabundo>   idVendor           0x147e Upek
[23:03] <BUGabundo>   idProduct          0x2016 Biometric Touchchip/Touchstrip Fingerprint Sensor
[23:03] <BUGabundo> does this help?
[23:04] <penguin42> oh I just meant the model of computer
[23:04] <BUGabundo> how can I find out that?
[23:04] <penguin42> it's just there were some 'quirks' the other day about i8042.nomux needed for some touchpads on some laptops
[23:04] <BUGabundo> its not like it has a label on it
[23:04] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Erm oh, dmidecode and look for System Information ?
[23:05] <penguin42> still, if it's a no-name then I doubt there'll be anything to find online
[23:06] <BUGabundo> penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210013/
[23:06] <penguin42> haha = Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
[23:07] <BUGabundo> I know
[23:07] <BUGabundo> you are the 2nd today
[23:07] <penguin42> It's OK, my Tosh laptop claims to be 52U high and have 18 power leads according to it's DMI info
[23:11] <penguin42> BUGabundo: It was this conversation that your touchpad not working reminded me of: http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/30337/
[23:12] <BUGabundo> mine is not a net book
[23:13] <penguin42> nod, still reminded me of it
[23:44] <Twigathy> Has anybody played about with vdpau magic in mplayer? Worth doing? Tricky? Crash-happy?
[23:44] <BUGabundo> crashy
[23:45] <Twigathy> ah, not a great deal of point then. I'll stick with vlc and mplayer then =)