| akgraner | BUGabundo, hey! | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| billybigrigger | wow, does empathy ever need some work | 00:12 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I installed the gnome shell from source, just to try, and now every terminal I launch opens in ~/gnome-shell/source/gnome-shell/src (this in karmic) | 00:15 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | do you know if there is some gnome-terminal setting for this? | 00:16 |
| penguin42 | Le-Chuck_ITA: Did you start the terminal from that directory? | 00:16 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | no :) | 00:16 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I run them from a button in the panel | 00:16 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | but I ran gnome-shell from that dir | 00:16 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | so perhaps it changed some gnome environment variable | 00:16 |
| * Le-Chuck_ITA logs out and in again | 00:17 | |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | my terminals are ok now :) sorry for noise | 00:18 |
| patapouf | Hi, I wanna repport a problem, but first I want to get the kernel stack trace. Is there any solution to produce a logs when the kernel 'crash' during the boot process ? | 00:58 |
| === kenyon_ is now known as kenyon | ||
| ryanakca | How do I change the default keyboard map? | 01:22 |
| ryanakca | (X server's, not just KDE/GNOME/XFCE's | 01:23 |
| fosco_ | hi | 02:22 |
| bobesponja | hey | 02:22 |
| fosco_ | sudo: gdmsetup: command not found <-- do you know something about this in karmic? | 02:22 |
| bobesponja | booting with 2.6.31 doesn't work so I'm falling back to the latest 2.6.30, anyone has the same issue? | 02:22 |
| fosco_ | bobesponja: .31 has some issues with graphics drivers | 02:23 |
| bobesponja | ok thanks for the info | 02:23 |
| bobesponja | I'm on intel | 02:23 |
| bobesponja | Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) | 02:24 |
| billybigrigger | nvidia + .31 working here | 02:24 |
| fosco_ | anything about missing gdmsetup? | 02:27 |
| billybigrigger | nope | 02:27 |
| fosco_ | ummm, | 02:27 |
| billybigrigger | when did you get that? | 02:28 |
| fosco_ | right now | 02:28 |
| billybigrigger | partial upgrade? or when trying to log in? | 02:28 |
| fosco_ | trying to change gdm theme | 02:28 |
| billybigrigger | uhhh | 02:28 |
| billybigrigger | pretty sure that gdm doesn't have a gui config tool | 02:28 |
| billybigrigger | so your trying to change the gdm theme for the old gdm | 02:28 |
| billybigrigger | someone correct me if im wrong? | 02:29 |
| fosco_ | gdmsetup worked 2 or 3 days ago :-? | 02:29 |
| fosco_ | ok, i can wait, no prob :) | 02:30 |
| === wapko is now known as wapko^ | ||
| DanaG | Mmm, love the 20-second boot times. | 04:30 |
| akio | im loving karmic UNR | 05:14 |
| DanaG | Any new news on the high-keycode issue I had mentioned before? | 05:17 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/313514 | 05:18 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 313514 in linux "MASTER: evdev driver ignores keycodes > 255" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 05:18 |
| DanaG | mmyeah. | 05:23 |
| DanaG | Oh hey, I figured out how to change the new gdm's settings: | 05:47 |
| DanaG | Be at login screen, then switch to console. Then do this: | 05:47 |
| DanaG | export DISPLAY=:0 | 05:47 |
| DanaG | sudo -u gdm gconf-editor | 05:47 |
| DanaG | or xterm works, too. | 05:47 |
| DanaG | Oh, and you can enable the volume control keys there, too! | 05:47 |
| nandemonai | Anyone running Karmic in virtualbox? For some reason the guest additions driver has died since the kernel update. Tried reinstalling it and no errors but X still spits the dummy. | 07:32 |
| nhasian | nandemonai, did you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ? | 08:16 |
| nandemonai | nhasian: Yeah I did, that's the weird thing. No errors either. | 08:16 |
| nhasian | nandemonai, since the kernel update in your host OS or the 2.6.31 update in karmic? | 08:17 |
| nandemonai | Oh wait sorry.. | 08:18 |
| nandemonai | Guest update. | 08:18 |
| nandemonai | No I didn't run vboxdrv update cause vbox runs fine, it's the Karmic guest that is having trouble. | 08:18 |
| nandemonai | Ran the guest additions install twice after the kernel upgrade (in the guest) but no dice. | 08:19 |
| nandemonai | (miss read what you said at first). | 08:19 |
| nhasian | i havent reinstalled virtualbox since i did a fresh karmic install. next i'll probably try kvm since its built into the kernel | 08:22 |
| nandemonai | I guess I'll just revert to vesa on the guest until I can figure it out. | 08:23 |
| oldude67 | ok if there is anyone alive in here tonight i could use some help...hosed my system by doing the wrong type of update this morning now i cant get gdm to work, have already did dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it just keeps saying done and i get the kdm instead..any suggestions? | 08:46 |
| oldude67 | ok i typed in dpkg-reconfigure kdm and it said i was using gdm already is what i want to use but it keeps defaulting me back to kdm, why? | 09:20 |
| dupondje | fast-user-switch-applet is broken ? | 09:25 |
| robin0800 | dupondje: think both gdm and compiz broken at the momment sice yesterday | 09:27 |
| oldude67 | robin0800: i got told that gdm got broken cause i did the wrong update yesterday morning i did a sudo ap-get update instead of a sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe_update | 09:31 |
| oldude67 | this caused a particial update and now my gdm is hosed. | 09:31 |
| oldude67 | ugh how ever you spell the dang word. | 09:34 |
| oldude67 | ugh | 09:34 |
| nandemonai | Oh.. | 09:38 |
| nandemonai | So GDM is borked eh? | 09:38 |
| nandemonai | Here I was assuming it was my vbox guest additions driver. | 09:38 |
| oldude67 | well yeah mine is..lol | 09:38 |
| robin0800 | nandemonai: and mine and compiz too won't start | 09:39 |
| nandemonai | Makes sense now lol | 09:40 |
| iPoRn | did any of you, updates the "gdm" package, and when on the login screen, had a new splash-screen? | 10:00 |
| yofel | iPoRn: you mean the login screen looks like the fedora one? yes | 10:02 |
| iPoRn | do you have any ideia how to change that? | 10:03 |
| iPoRn | c'os on the startup-manager, i can't change it | 10:03 |
| yofel | iPoRn: since there is no GUI configuration tool for it yet you'll have to stick with it | 10:04 |
| iPoRn | ok, tks | 10:04 |
| eagles0513875 | can any one help me trouble shoot a wifi problem | 10:05 |
| yofel | !ask | eagles0513875 | 10:05 |
| ubottu | eagles0513875: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 10:05 |
| eagles0513875 | for some reason i am unable to connect to my access point its wpa encrypted but it works on jaunty but not on karmic it seems that the access point denies association with a code 13 | 10:06 |
| eagles0513875 | i remember that issue being a bug in jaunty but it seems to have resurfaced in karmic alpha 2 | 10:09 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: any idea as to my issue | 10:11 |
| yofel | eagles0513875: not really, what's your card? also: wpa or wpa2? mixed mode? | 10:24 |
| eagles0513875 | my card is a broadcom bcm4311 rev2 card | 10:25 |
| eagles0513875 | im using the b43-fwcutter | 10:25 |
| eagles0513875 | let me check if wpa or wpa2 | 10:25 |
| eagles0513875 | yofel: its wpa2 mixed | 10:26 |
| yofel | I'm no expert here, and since I don't know anything about broadcom cards I don't think I can help you, sry | 10:26 |
| eagles0513875 | ok will go hunt on launchpad | 10:27 |
| eagles0513875 | anyone a wifi guru thats around cuz im having issues connecting to my wpa2 mixed wifi ap | 11:11 |
| BUGabundo | bom dia ppl | 11:33 |
| eagles0513875 | morning | 11:38 |
| eagles0513875 | BUGabundo: since you seem to be the bugspert lol | 11:38 |
| eagles0513875 | are there bugs against wpa2 mixed encrypted connections on karmic | 11:39 |
| BUGabundo | not that I know | 11:39 |
| BUGabundo | but this cycle I've been soooooooooooooo backloged :(((( | 11:40 |
| BUGabundo | eagles0513875: last time I tried it, it WFM | 11:40 |
| eagles0513875 | wfm???? | 11:40 |
| eagles0513875 | wpa2 mixed mode works fine in jaunty what changed in karmic | 11:40 |
| BUGabundo | Works For Me | 11:41 |
| BUGabundo | eagles0513875: lots changed! entire new kernel stack | 11:41 |
| BUGabundo | and new iwtools | 11:41 |
| eagles0513875 | you able to connect to a wpa2 mixed mode connection on karmic alpha 2 | 11:41 |
| robin0800 | BUGabundo: gdm and compiz appear broke after new fast switcher applet yesterday any bugs raised? | 11:41 |
| eagles0513875 | cuz i just upgraded from jaunty | 11:41 |
| cwillu | eagles0513875, try both 2.6.30 and 2.6.31 kernels. If it's broken in .31 and working in .30, then make sure you file a bug if you haven't already. .31 is still under development, and that sort of breakage is completely normal | 11:41 |
| BUGabundo | robin0800: I have all updates and it works | 11:42 |
| eagles0513875 | cwillu: its not working in 30 | 11:42 |
| BUGabundo | robin0800: someone else complained about it yesterday | 11:42 |
| eagles0513875 | cwillu: should i try go back to the jaunty kernels which i still have installed | 11:42 |
| cwillu | eagles0513875, worth a shot, yes | 11:42 |
| * BUGabundo pokes cwillu with a stick full of Saudades!! | 11:42 | |
| eagles0513875 | rebooting now | 11:42 |
| * BUGabundo finally remembers to file a bug on nvidia hue | 11:43 | |
| * cwillu pokes BUGabundo with a I-got-up-20-hours-ago,I'm-just-filling-out-my-time-sheets-so-I-can-get-paid-and-then-I'm-going-to-bed-for-16-hours :p | 11:43 | |
| eagles0513875 | here is something that isnt right | 11:43 |
| cwillu | it's a whinekabob! | 11:43 |
| robin0800 | BUGabundo: perhaps its just the open drivers that have problems | 11:43 |
| eagles0513875 | cwillu: here is a new problem | 11:43 |
| eagles0513875 | its showing me verbose out put of shutdown then goign back right into booting no kernel options no grub showing up no nothing | 11:44 |
| BUGabundo | poor cwillu | 11:44 |
| cwillu | eagles0513875, are you shutting down or rebooting? | 11:44 |
| eagles0513875 | i cant choose me kernel :( | 11:44 |
| eagles0513875 | rebooting | 11:44 |
| cwillu | do a shutdown | 11:44 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu what has your job making you do!?! you haven't told me what's up since last two weeks | 11:44 |
| cwillu | BUGabundo, under paid programmer this week :p | 11:44 |
| BUGabundo | :(( | 11:44 |
| eagles0513875 | haha better the no job student like me | 11:45 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu new job for me this week. HPUX admin | 11:45 |
| cwillu | but, come monday, I've got lots and lots of points scored with everyone at the office, and a stranglehold on the new product line they're putting together (or rather, I'm putting together) | 11:45 |
| cwillu | BUGabundo, ooo, fun fun :) | 11:45 |
| BUGabundo | really? | 11:46 |
| BUGabundo | never touched it before! totally new experience! | 11:46 |
| eagles0513875 | weeeeeeeee broken reboot script | 11:46 |
| BUGabundo | >200 servers under my command AAHAHAA | 11:46 |
| eagles0513875 | when did karmic go to kernel 31 | 11:46 |
| eagles0513875 | but funny thing is i had this problem in also 30 and now in 31 | 11:47 |
| eagles0513875 | trying with 2.6.28-13 | 11:47 |
| BUGabundo | eagles0513875: 3 days ago | 11:47 |
| eagles0513875 | ok | 11:47 |
| cwillu | BUGabundo, I'd suggest reading the man pages in preference to just typing <command> -h or <command>. Other unixes are kinda bad for doing things by default that you might not want done :p | 11:47 |
| cwillu | just a free tip :p | 11:48 |
| BUGabundo | eagles0513875: that will break your GPU | 11:48 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu like really old version of VI ? | 11:48 |
| cwillu | BUGabundo, bah, you need to be able to work that anyway :p | 11:48 |
| eagles0513875 | BUGabundo: what you mean | 11:48 |
| eagles0513875 | well seems like the bug is still there in 2.6.28-13 and 2.6.31 | 11:48 |
| * cwillu notices that his timesheets start out very short, snappy, and full of progress, and gradually grow less succinct, more wordy, and describing more addled-brained behaviour as he browses through his week | 11:49 | |
| cwillu | maybe going into work tomorrow isnt' such a good idea :p | 11:49 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu should I had nvidia-bugreport.sh data to my bug? | 11:50 |
| * cwillu falls asleep facedown on his keyboardssdffdsfk fggffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff | 11:52 | |
| eagles0513875 | hahaha | 11:52 |
| eagles0513875 | im off to file a bug on launch pad against what i have no idea | 11:52 |
| eagles0513875 | BUGabundo: did you upgrade from jaunty or not | 11:53 |
| eagles0513875 | are you on a clean install | 11:53 |
| BUGabundo | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/395476 | 11:53 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 395476 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "nvidia sets HUE to -1000" [Undecided,New] | 11:53 |
| cwillu | I mean seriously, when you need to figure out the formatting code to get openoffice to display a time after 24:00 as a number larger than 24... | 11:53 |
| BUGabundo | eagles0513875: I did... long time ago.... one week after JJ came out | 11:54 |
| cwillu | (it's [HH]:MM, btw) | 11:54 |
| eagles0513875 | hahah also BUGabundo speaking of nvidia graphics for some reason on karmic my 1280x800 seems alot higher then that lol | 11:54 |
| eagles0513875 | everything is so much smaller or the start bar on the bottom shrank | 11:54 |
| BUGabundo | thata not resolution its Font Size or DPI | 11:54 |
| * yofel wonders what idiot programmed BUGabundos bios... <To Be Filled By O.E.M.> | 11:55 | |
| yofel | good morning | 11:56 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: right! bad and closed OEM | 11:56 |
| BUGabundo | its an asustek barebone S37S | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | can't find a bios update either! | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | have to go! | 11:57 |
| BUGabundo | bbl | 11:57 |
| * BUGabundo $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/time; echo bbl | 11:58 | |
| eagles0513875 | cwillu: :( did you do a clean install of karmic or upgraded from jaunty | 12:00 |
| cwillu | clean install? that's silly talk :p | 12:01 |
| cwillu | that laptop's been upgraded since edgy, and my desktop since hoary :p | 12:02 |
| cwillu | I'm definitely going to bed now, sorry :p | 12:02 |
| eagles0513875 | humm | 12:04 |
| yofel | that hue bug is interesting: mplayer - works, vlc - works, totem - wrong hue, after I tried totem the hue was wrong in mplayer and vlc as well... | 12:11 |
| yofel | gstreamer broken? | 12:11 |
| cbr | what's the matter with karmic at the moment? | 12:20 |
| cbr | X crashes | 12:21 |
| eagles0513875 | cbr: doesnt for me | 12:21 |
| cbr | and irssi did too if i didnt do chmod 777 /dev/null | 12:21 |
| cbr | but X still crashes | 12:21 |
| cbr | looks like udev fuckups? | 12:21 |
| eagles0513875 | strange im having issues connecting to wifi | 12:21 |
| eagles0513875 | !language | cbr | 12:21 |
| ubottu | cbr: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 12:21 |
| cbr | sorry, didn't find another word to appropriately describe the situation | 12:22 |
| cbr | anyway, yeah.. i'm X-less | 12:23 |
| cbr | pretty frustrating :p | 12:23 |
| eagles0513875 | cbr: you try reconfiguring x | 12:24 |
| cbr | which package? | 12:25 |
| yofel | cbr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think | 12:26 |
| yofel | wasn't there also an option for this in the recovery mode? | 12:27 |
| cbr | X starts for me anyway | 12:27 |
| cbr | KDM displays | 12:27 |
| cbr | but when i try to open a desktop or window manager, it crashes | 12:27 |
| yofel | cbr: what card? | 12:27 |
| cbr | intel gm965 | 12:27 |
| yofel | anything useful in Xorg.0.log.old ? | 12:28 |
| eagles0513875 | cbr: you can drop down to init 1 and reconfigure x that way also try run fsck as of late i have found that fixes alot of interesting issue | 12:28 |
| cbr | oh wait | 12:28 |
| cbr | now it magically starts again | 12:29 |
| eagles0513875 | lol | 12:29 |
| eagles0513875 | woohoo | 12:29 |
| * eagles0513875 wonders what the odds of fsck fixing my wifi connectivity are | 12:30 | |
| cbr | well yeah, X started | 12:32 |
| cbr | but sound is still abort | 12:32 |
| cbr | and all kinds of programs didnt autostart | 12:32 |
| tgpraveen | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539142 | 13:25 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 539142 in General "Cannot go online manually if NM is not running" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 13:25 |
| borschty | hi, the patch to https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/395103 causes me to be unable to login, gdm crashes after selecting my default user, does anybody have an idea how to get a good backtrace of this? i already tried "sudo gdb /usr/bin/gdm-binary" but no crash showed up | 13:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 395103 in gdm "Gnome doesn't have my configured keyboard layout after login anymore" [High,Fix released] | 13:45 |
| borschty | ah, possibly it isn't gdm-binary that is crashing but gdm-simple-greeter, maybe i should try gdb on that one | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 14:15 |
| BUGabundo | hey BluesKaj | 14:15 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: could you reproduce the totem bug? | 14:16 |
| BUGabundo | 'cause for me it happens on any player | 14:16 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395476 | 14:16 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 395476 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "nvidia sets HUE to -1000" [Undecided,New] | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | hi BUGabundo ...went bacj to ff3.0 . ff3.5 wouldn't link thru thunderbird URLs even after editing the config editir to make FF3.5 t6he default browser | 14:17 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: can you please try with FF3.6? | 14:18 |
| * BluesKaj examines swollen fingers | 14:18 | |
| BUGabundo | what's up with your finguers BluesKaj ? | 14:19 |
| BluesKaj | jamming yestertday/last night | 14:22 |
| BluesKaj | give the kit a good workout | 14:22 |
| BluesKaj | ok got the i686 tarball , ff3.6 | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | err gave | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | damn plasma workspace keeps crashing as well | 14:25 |
| BUGabundo | tarbal??? | 14:25 |
| BluesKaj | firefox-3.6a1pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 | 14:26 |
| BUGabundo | I meant https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa | 14:26 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, ok thx | 14:34 |
| BUGabundo | anyone else with touchpad probs? | 14:42 |
| BUGabundo | mine won't move the cursor! | 14:42 |
| BUGabundo | and audio flat bugs! | 14:42 |
| BluesKaj | get a mouse , i use one even with the laptop ...hate them touchpads | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | du | 14:44 |
| BUGabundo | I'm using a mouse | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | but a touchpad not working is a bug | 14:45 |
| BUGabundo | I need someone to confirm it | 14:45 |
| BluesKaj | sry, i have jaunty on our lappy | 14:45 |
| maxb | touchpad working fine here | 14:56 |
| BUGabundo | :(( | 14:57 |
| maxb | type of machine? | 14:57 |
| BUGabundo | laptop? | 15:01 |
| BUGabundo | barebone, unbranded | 15:01 |
| eagles0513875 | BUGabundo: i cant confirm i dont have that issue | 15:02 |
| eagles0513875 | im having wifi nightmares instead | 15:02 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Hi, I have a bug in karmic which is fixed upstream in mesa: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22428 can someone help me understanding if the fix will naturally reach karmic or I should report it? | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 22428 in Drivers/DRI/i915 "[bisected 945GME]mesa xdemo/glxcontexts run aborted with error: Assertion `!obj->Pointer'" [Major,Verified: fixed] | 15:10 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | perhaps better in the bugs channel | 15:11 |
| BUGabundo | Le-Chuck_ITA: or motu if it is in universe | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, so what is the proper name to call FF3.6 in T-bird about.config to make it the default browser ... the strange thing is , if i make it (firefox-3.6 %u) the global default browser,thunderbird doesn't recognize it as such. | 15:13 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I hope mesa is not in universe, in fact I do not know the correspondence in ubuntu to that upstream package | 15:13 |
| BUGabundo | BluesKaj: please ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam | 15:14 |
| BUGabundo | !info mesa | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Package mesa does not exist in karmic | 15:14 |
| BUGabundo | !search mesa | 15:14 |
| ubottu | Found: | 15:14 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | hmm | 15:15 |
| BUGabundo | too many packages with its name | 15:15 |
| BUGabundo | Le-Chuck_ITA: $ apt-cache search mesa | 15:15 |
| BluesKaj | BUGabundo, you suggested I try FF3.6 so i assumed you were using it too , but i guess you use kamail or some such , right ? | 15:15 |
| BUGabundo | I am | 15:16 |
| BUGabundo | but im not using tbird | 15:16 |
| BUGabundo | kmail here! | 15:16 |
| BUGabundo | systemsetting does the work ok for me | 15:16 |
| BluesKaj | yeah , thought so | 15:16 |
| BluesKaj | yeah i'v eused kamil in the past , i just don't care for it's quirks | 15:16 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | BUGabundo: there are so many packages related to libmesa, it seems that the source package is "mesa" but launchpad can't find it | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | quirks? | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | Le-Chuck_ITA: thers no such package | 15:17 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I see but, apt-cache showsrc | 15:17 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | tells me that | 15:17 |
| BUGabundo | Source: mesa | 15:18 |
| BUGabundo | but you are right | 15:18 |
| BUGabundo | its the "source" LOL | 15:18 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I will type "mesa" in and see if it works :) | 15:18 |
| BUGabundo | $ apt-cache policy mesa | 15:19 |
| BUGabundo | W: Unable to locate package mesa | 15:19 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | what's the ubuntu xorg development channel? I'll ask them | 15:20 |
| eagles0513875 | BluesKaj: blarg your not running a vm with karmic are you or karmic on a laptop by any chance are you | 15:21 |
| BluesKaj | eagles0513875, I'm using the wifi connection , cuz the other pc needs the ethernet cable | 15:22 |
| eagles0513875 | i know but are you on karmic or jaunty | 15:23 |
| BluesKaj | karmic | 15:23 |
| eagles0513875 | on a mixed wpa2 encrypted wifi connection | 15:23 |
| eagles0513875 | cuz its not working for me | 15:23 |
| BluesKaj | eagles0513875, wicd ? | 15:24 |
| eagles0513875 | no the plasma widget | 15:24 |
| eagles0513875 | never really tried wicd | 15:24 |
| BluesKaj | wicd is more stable and it remembers your settings , unlike the widget one | 15:24 |
| eagles0513875 | the widget one does as well it seems like | 15:25 |
| rbrunhuber | eagles0513875: Which of the widgets are you using | 15:25 |
| BluesKaj | not on my setup | 15:25 |
| eagles0513875 | the plasma-widget-network-manager thats in karmic rbrunhuber | 15:25 |
| BUGabundo | Le-Chuck_ITA: #ubuntu-x | 15:26 |
| rbrunhuber | eagles0513875: there is also a plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | is that required though | 15:26 |
| rbrunhuber | That is what I'm using. But it is not working either, eagles0513875 | 15:26 |
| eagles0513875 | ok so its not only me are you running 32bit or 64bit karmic | 15:26 |
| rbrunhuber | eagles0513875: 32 bit jaunty to karmic upgrade. | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | me 64bit jaunt to karmic upgrade | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | rbrunhuber: im not sure if you would like to file a bug and i can confirm it for ya | 15:27 |
| eagles0513875 | rbrunhuber: i get 2 strange messages in dmessage regarding wifi which i have no idea what they mean | 15:28 |
| BluesKaj | filing a bug is fine but wicd should solve your widget network management probs , eagles0513875 rbrunhuber | 15:28 |
| eagles0513875 | BluesKaj: i know but this is a regression if im not mistaken there was a bug in jaunty regarding connection issues with wpa encrypted wifi connections which was resolved | 15:29 |
| rbrunhuber | eagles0513875: As far as I see the networkmanager and wpa_supplicant are not working properly together. | 15:29 |
| eagles0513875 | ya | 15:29 |
| eagles0513875 | rbrunhuber: if you hunt down a similar bug from jaunty you can reconfirm it on karmic and i can as well | 15:29 |
| rbrunhuber | BluesKaj: The problem is that filling bugs against NetworkManger/plasmawidget/... has stopped being fun, because someone steps up to suggest wicd. | 15:30 |
| eagles0513875 | i might end up taking it upstream directly to kde dev in charge of it | 15:30 |
| rbrunhuber | BluesKaj: This does not help... to iron out the bugs in the other packages. | 15:31 |
| BluesKaj | nope eagles0513875 , that issue was not totally solved, the widget manger/management is still flaky \ | 15:31 |
| eagles0513875 | then how come in jaunty it works perfectly fine | 15:32 |
| eagles0513875 | what is the current svn version from upstream of it | 15:32 |
| rbrunhuber | eagles0513875: BluesKaj: For me it did not work fine in jaunty, I had to go for the ppa version of the widget | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | strange | 15:33 |
| eagles0513875 | seems like one in karmic is svn 976478 | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | well, rbrunhuber I assume you want to get your own issue fixed before filing a bug ...most ppl have already switched to wicd because the widget manager is so unstable | 15:33 |
| BluesKaj | !wicd | 15:34 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd | 15:34 |
| eagles0513875 | i would like to as well but its strange how there is a regression all of a sudden | 15:34 |
| eagles0513875 | !info wicd | 15:34 |
| ubottu | wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2484 kB | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | !info wicd | 15:34 |
| ubottu | wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2484 kB | 15:34 |
| eagles0513875 | hehe touche BluesKaj :) | 15:34 |
| BluesKaj | eagles0513875, don't dwell on regressions , they are sometimes necessary , but not in this case , just switch to wicd and fix your problem | 15:35 |
| eagles0513875 | ya will do that as we speak but have to run where i have one last free wired connection | 15:36 |
| eagles0513875 | BluesKaj: outa curiosity can i keep both installed or once i install wicd i remove the plasma widget | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | wicd auto-replaces the widget manager | 15:36 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | Thanks BUGabundo | 15:37 |
| BUGabundo | np Le-Chuck_ITA | 15:38 |
| eagles0513875 | BluesKaj: gotcha | 15:38 |
| rbrunhuber | BluesKaj: eagles0513875: I just created a script, that kills Networkmanager and uses wpa_supplicant and dhclient directly that works like a charm and it is fast!!! | 15:39 |
| eagles0513875 | O_O | 15:39 |
| eagles0513875 | elaborate rbrunhuber | 15:39 |
| eagles0513875 | rbrunhuber: why not just uninstall networkmanager and install wpa_supplicant | 15:39 |
| eagles0513875 | or are they dependencies of one another | 15:40 |
| rbrunhuber | eagles0513875: wpa_supplicant is a dependency of networkmanager | 15:40 |
| eagles0513875 | gotcha how fast we talking about though cuz with network manager on jaunt on wifi to upgrade i was getting about 1.2mbps | 15:40 |
| rbrunhuber | eagles0513875: not the network speed is fast, but the connection time (1-2 seconds) | 15:41 |
| eagles0513875 | interested what are connection times like with wicd BluesKaj | 15:41 |
| BluesKaj | if you want a gui type app for wifi then wicd is the way to go ...scripts are fine but I use both wired and wifi on this pc and our laptop dependeng on where we are situated | 15:42 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | BUGabundo: back again, touchpad: mine works fine here (Thinkpad R61) - HUE Bug: I already commented on it ;) (I'm Philip) maybe something broken in gstreamer? | 16:00 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: I know you commented | 16:00 |
| BUGabundo | that's why I asked | 16:00 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: well, I can watch the video fine as long I use (S)Mplayer or vlc, but if I try Totem the HUE is wrong in all players from that on | 16:03 |
| BUGabundo | ok | 16:05 |
| BUGabundo | I guess I need to upstream it too | 16:05 |
| yofel | I think it's something in gstreamer, since the only references to HUE that grep found in totems source code were a function for the settings dialog and a gstreamer query | 16:08 |
| robin0800 | ''''' | 16:09 |
| robin0800 | '''' | 16:09 |
| yofel | robin0800: bored? | 16:09 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | how to get all the kde dependencies without polluting gnome entirely? I have no icons in buttons in the interface of kdenlive | 16:12 |
| BUGabundo | Le-Chuck_ITA: instal kde-icons ? | 16:16 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | trying | 16:17 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | but shouldn't they come as a dependency of something? | 16:17 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 16:21 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | installed kde-icons-nuvola | 16:21 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | nothing | 16:21 |
| BUGabundo | not until final snaptshot | 16:21 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | sorry | 16:22 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | didn't install | 16:22 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | I am going crazy | 16:22 |
| BUGabundo | gnome 2.29 already !? | 16:24 |
| Le-Chuck_ITA | BUGabundo: installed kdeartwork-theme-icon but nope | 16:26 |
| BUGabundo | no idea | 16:30 |
| BUGabundo | Le-Chuck_ITA: ask on #kubuntu-devel | 16:30 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/395476 sent upstream | 16:30 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 395476 in totem "nvidia sets HUE to -1000" [Undecided,New] | 16:30 |
| DanaG | 100% of the space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use | 17:36 |
| BUGabundo | woot | 17:36 |
| BUGabundo | I'm up to 95% | 17:36 |
| DanaG | That's my backup drive. | 17:36 |
| DanaG | 100% of the disk space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use | 17:36 |
| DanaG | Wow, it literally opens a new dialog saying that, once per minute. | 17:37 |
| DanaG | 100% of the disk space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use | 17:37 |
| DanaG | Now I have 3 of those windows.' | 17:38 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 17:39 |
| td123 | hmm, is it a known bug that when a freshly installed alpha 2 system freezes when you do a partial upgrade? ~470 packages need updating. I'm also using vbox 3.0 | 17:39 |
| DanaG | 4 of them. | 17:39 |
| * td123 is checking launchpad | 17:39 | |
| DanaG | oh yeah, the update to GDM locked up my system. | 17:40 |
| DanaG | Now I have 5 of those notifications. | 17:40 |
| Zorael^2 | Is the envyNG in karmic broken for anyone else? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/209874/ | 17:40 |
| BUGabundo | td123: DON'T do parcial updates | 17:41 |
| BUGabundo | it means that something is still building! | 17:41 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: _please_ stop counting! | 17:41 |
| BUGabundo | Zorael^2: wfm | 17:41 |
| td123 | BUGabundo: oh | 17:41 |
| BUGabundo | td123: if you really want to install the remaining packages use aptitude | 17:42 |
| td123 | BUGabundo: but would it matter if the whole virtual system freezes when it's still downloading the partial upgrade packages? | 17:42 |
| BUGabundo | td123: $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade | 17:42 |
| BUGabundo | td123: with partials, you will most prob removed required packages | 17:43 |
| DanaG | heh, now I have 15. | 17:50 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: !!!!!!! | 17:52 |
| DanaG | I guess I should file a bug on that. | 17:53 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo::: i saw your bug report | 17:54 |
| billybigrigger | i sub'd it, but will be back to add to the report after the gym and some brunch | 17:54 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo::: don't know if i told you already, docky = the shit | 17:55 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | billybigrigger: please pretty please change the way your IRC client autocompletes nicks!!!! | 17:55 |
| billybigrigger | haha | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | !language | billybigrigger | 17:55 |
| ubottu | billybigrigger: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 17:55 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo??? better? | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | much | 17:55 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo??? ok | 17:55 |
| BUGabundo | ahaah | 17:56 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo??? what? | 17:56 |
| billybigrigger | :P | 17:56 |
| billybigrigger | BUGabundo, i guess a simple , will suffice eh? | 17:56 |
| BUGabundo | I like : better | 17:57 |
| BUGabundo | but anything is better then :::::::: | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | then whats wrong with the triple threat? | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | ::: | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | :) | 17:57 |
| billybigrigger | hehe, ok ill be back in a bit, we can argue about tab completion prettiness later | 17:58 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/395558 | 18:22 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 395558 in gnome-settings-daemon "With notify-osd, "low disk space" notifications become spam" [Undecided,New] | 18:22 |
| DanaG | and with that... I stop griping about it here. | 18:23 |
| DanaG | =รพ | 18:23 |
| DanaG | and: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/240553 | 18:23 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 240553 in linux "evbug.c spams logs and causes high system loads" [Medium,Triaged] | 18:23 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOL | 18:28 |
| BUGabundo | right | 18:28 |
| BUGabundo | you already have TWO of those popup bugs right? | 18:28 |
| DanaG | nOT sure what you mean, actually. | 18:29 |
| DanaG | I haven't reported it myself, before. I also couldn't find an existing report about it. | 18:30 |
| BUGabundo | DanaG: weren't you who also reported a bunch of popups about something else? | 18:30 |
| DanaG | I really don't remember, actually. | 18:30 |
| DanaG | heh, and with the 3D-windows plugin... now I have a literal "tower" of windows. | 18:31 |
| BUGabundo | ahaha | 18:31 |
| BUGabundo | http://files.getdropbox.com/u/112892/120percent.png | 19:11 |
| BUGabundo | PA at 120% | 19:11 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOL | 19:11 |
| tgpraveen | BUGabundo: hi | 19:16 |
| tgpraveen | BUGabundo: why does pidgin have a playback stream in that img? | 19:16 |
| BUGabundo | it was a ping | 19:16 |
| nixternal | anyone have karmic running on a dell mini 10v or similar? | 19:50 |
| BUGabundo | LOLOL nixternal | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo | bcurtis was just complaining about those | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo | actually the 9" | 19:51 |
| nixternal | well what did bcurtis say? | 19:51 |
| nixternal | issues with X? | 19:51 |
| BUGabundo | nixternal: bcurtis is not in this # | 19:54 |
| BUGabundo | _yet_ | 19:54 |
| tgpraveen | anyone know how to bring ubottu to other rooms | 20:15 |
| billybigrigger | great i lost audio today | 20:17 |
| billybigrigger | binutils binutils-static readline-common | 20:17 |
| billybigrigger | those were my only updates | 20:17 |
| yofel | tgpraveen: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots | 20:24 |
| tgpraveen | yofel: thx | 20:24 |
| yofel | grmbl... why doesn't nautilus have a button to refresh the desktop? | 20:34 |
| guntbert | is there a way to download just the differences between my "daily" and the latest one (like with rsync)? | 20:36 |
| adam7 | yofel: why do you need one? | 20:37 |
| yofel | adam7: I just created a symlink on the desktop to a file on a fs that doesn't get mounted on boot. The symlink works after I mount the fs, but the icon always shows a broken symlink :( | 20:40 |
| guntbert | for reference: I found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage as answer to my question :-) | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | I had one for that | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | even better then that one | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | then cwillu made me a better one LOL | 21:21 |
| BUGabundo | guntbert: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo/ISORsync | 21:22 |
| BUGabundo | uploading new one | 21:22 |
| guntbert | BUGabundo: nice, thank you :-) | 21:22 |
| BUGabundo | guntbert: refresh the page now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo/ISORsync | 21:25 |
| BUGabundo | darn... it list line breaks | 21:26 |
| guntbert | BUGabundo: :) | 21:27 |
| BUGabundo | *lost | 21:28 |
| BUGabundo | guntbert: should be ok now I hope https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BUGabundo/ISORsync | 21:31 |
| guntbert | BUGabundo: looks definitely better - thx :-) | 21:32 |
| * cwillu has slept for 10 hours | 22:27 | |
| cwillu | BUGabundo, that's funny. It's definitely my code, I can tell from the coding style, but I have no memory of writing that :) | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: that's all? weren't you supposed to sleep 16h? | 22:28 |
| cwillu | I know | 22:28 |
| cwillu | must have been another one of those 24 hour days when I did that for you :) | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: jaunty alpha1 date | 22:28 |
| * cwillu wonders why he left the files owned as root | 22:30 | |
| Twigathy | woah, that was crazy :O | 22:31 |
| Twigathy | The new version of the nvidia drivers just got installed... it logged me out of my xfce session, saving it, and brought me to a debian login screen where I could choose to resume the session ... >_< | 22:32 |
| cwillu | BUGabundo, after the time sudo ionice, add: sudo chown $SUDO_USER:$SUDO_USER /home/bugabundo/temp/OS_isos/$2 | 22:32 |
| cwillu | Twigathy, that's an xfce thing, although gnome can do it too | 22:33 |
| cwillu | but it's an application-by-application thing whether it works or not :p | 22:33 |
| Twigathy | well, everything seemed to survive it! :) | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: wfm... the isos are already there as reguler user eheh | 22:34 |
| yofel | wasn't it gdm that caused that? o.O | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | cwillu: gnome saved sessions is broken since JJ | 22:35 |
| * penguin42 wishes he knew why Karmic kept screen blanking | 22:48 | |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: you are lucky! mine won't power save | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | actucally my CPU is at 100% | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | damn firefox and X and gconf-d | 22:52 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: It just seems randomly to screenblank while I'm doing something | 22:52 |
| SKB | heh i have no sound | 22:54 |
| SKB | and trash is gone | 22:55 |
| * cwillu cheers! | 22:55 | |
| SKB | and places doesn't work | 22:55 |
| cwillu | sounds like you haven't rebooted since upgrading or updating :p | 22:55 |
| SKB | and no auto-mount | 22:55 |
| SKB | i had to recompile hal and glibc | 22:55 |
| SKB | :D | 22:56 |
| cwillu | ah, so it's a self-inflicted scar :p | 22:56 |
| cwillu | you really should stop cutting yourself silly :p | 22:56 |
| SKB | the biggest suprise was no keyboar and mouse input after upgrade | 22:57 |
| * cwillu on the other hand should really buy some groceries | 22:57 | |
| SKB | that's why i had to recompile some stuff :P | 22:57 |
| SKB | now, how te get my trash back? It should contain ~5GB by now :D | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | SKB: forget hal | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | sound: check with pavucontrol if you have any app lever below 50 | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | 50% | 22:58 |
| BUGabundo | trash is the 1st report so far | 22:59 |
| SKB | haven't got that app 0o | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | SKB: I have no touchpad working and mouse is a bit slower | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | SKB: ~/.local/Trash? | 22:59 |
| BUGabundo | SKB: install pavucontrol then, right? | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | SKB: I would recommend you go with aptitude safe-upgrade | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | you may have a few broken depdencies | 23:00 |
| BUGabundo | also check *if* your mirror is upto date | 23:00 |
| SKB | sound is pulse related :| | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | yes | 23:01 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: What hardware are you on having touchpad trouble? | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: forgot about you LOLOL | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: how do you check? lspci ? | 23:01 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: GPM is broken meaning it will behave hearadict | 23:01 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: No, I just mean what machin/manufacturer/model? | 23:01 |
| penguin42 | oh if gpm is broken then that's not going to help | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | your symptons look like the ones from jaunty or was it II ? | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | idVendor 0x147e Upek | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | idProduct 0x2016 Biometric Touchchip/Touchstrip Fingerprint Sensor | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | does this help? | 23:03 |
| penguin42 | oh I just meant the model of computer | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | how can I find out that? | 23:04 |
| penguin42 | it's just there were some 'quirks' the other day about i8042.nomux needed for some touchpads on some laptops | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | its not like it has a label on it | 23:04 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: Erm oh, dmidecode and look for System Information ? | 23:04 |
| penguin42 | still, if it's a no-name then I doubt there'll be anything to find online | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210013/ | 23:06 |
| penguin42 | haha = Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M. | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | I know | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | you are the 2nd today | 23:07 |
| penguin42 | It's OK, my Tosh laptop claims to be 52U high and have 18 power leads according to it's DMI info | 23:07 |
| penguin42 | BUGabundo: It was this conversation that your touchpad not working reminded me of: http://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/30337/ | 23:11 |
| BUGabundo | mine is not a net book | 23:12 |
| penguin42 | nod, still reminded me of it | 23:13 |
| === poseidon_ is now known as poseidon | ||
| Twigathy | Has anybody played about with vdpau magic in mplayer? Worth doing? Tricky? Crash-happy? | 23:44 |
| BUGabundo | crashy | 23:44 |
| Twigathy | ah, not a great deal of point then. I'll stick with vlc and mplayer then =) | 23:45 |
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