[00:07] BUGabundo, hey! [00:12] wow, does empathy ever need some work [00:15] I installed the gnome shell from source, just to try, and now every terminal I launch opens in ~/gnome-shell/source/gnome-shell/src (this in karmic) [00:16] do you know if there is some gnome-terminal setting for this? [00:16] Le-Chuck_ITA: Did you start the terminal from that directory? [00:16] no :) [00:16] I run them from a button in the panel [00:16] but I ran gnome-shell from that dir [00:16] so perhaps it changed some gnome environment variable [00:17] * Le-Chuck_ITA logs out and in again [00:18] my terminals are ok now :) sorry for noise [00:58] Hi, I wanna repport a problem, but first I want to get the kernel stack trace. Is there any solution to produce a logs when the kernel 'crash' during the boot process ? === kenyon_ is now known as kenyon [01:22] How do I change the default keyboard map? [01:23] (X server's, not just KDE/GNOME/XFCE's [02:22] hi [02:22] hey [02:22] sudo: gdmsetup: command not found <-- do you know something about this in karmic? [02:22] booting with 2.6.31 doesn't work so I'm falling back to the latest 2.6.30, anyone has the same issue? [02:23] bobesponja: .31 has some issues with graphics drivers [02:23] ok thanks for the info [02:23] I'm on intel [02:24] Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03) [02:24] nvidia + .31 working here [02:27] anything about missing gdmsetup? [02:27] nope [02:27] ummm, [02:28] when did you get that? [02:28] right now [02:28] partial upgrade? or when trying to log in? [02:28] trying to change gdm theme [02:28] uhhh [02:28] pretty sure that gdm doesn't have a gui config tool [02:28] so your trying to change the gdm theme for the old gdm [02:29] someone correct me if im wrong? [02:29] gdmsetup worked 2 or 3 days ago :-? [02:30] ok, i can wait, no prob :) === wapko is now known as wapko^ [04:30] Mmm, love the 20-second boot times. [05:14] im loving karmic UNR [05:17] Any new news on the high-keycode issue I had mentioned before? [05:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/313514 [05:18] Ubuntu bug 313514 in linux "MASTER: evdev driver ignores keycodes > 255" [Unknown,Confirmed] [05:23] mmyeah. [05:47] Oh hey, I figured out how to change the new gdm's settings: [05:47] Be at login screen, then switch to console. Then do this: [05:47] export DISPLAY=:0 [05:47] sudo -u gdm gconf-editor [05:47] or xterm works, too. [05:47] Oh, and you can enable the volume control keys there, too! [07:32] Anyone running Karmic in virtualbox? For some reason the guest additions driver has died since the kernel update. Tried reinstalling it and no errors but X still spits the dummy. [08:16] nandemonai, did you run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup ? [08:16] nhasian: Yeah I did, that's the weird thing. No errors either. [08:17] nandemonai, since the kernel update in your host OS or the 2.6.31 update in karmic? [08:18] Oh wait sorry.. [08:18] Guest update. [08:18] No I didn't run vboxdrv update cause vbox runs fine, it's the Karmic guest that is having trouble. [08:19] Ran the guest additions install twice after the kernel upgrade (in the guest) but no dice. [08:19] (miss read what you said at first). [08:22] i havent reinstalled virtualbox since i did a fresh karmic install. next i'll probably try kvm since its built into the kernel [08:23] I guess I'll just revert to vesa on the guest until I can figure it out. [08:46] ok if there is anyone alive in here tonight i could use some help...hosed my system by doing the wrong type of update this morning now i cant get gdm to work, have already did dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it just keeps saying done and i get the kdm instead..any suggestions? [09:20] ok i typed in dpkg-reconfigure kdm and it said i was using gdm already is what i want to use but it keeps defaulting me back to kdm, why? [09:25] fast-user-switch-applet is broken ? [09:27] dupondje: think both gdm and compiz broken at the momment sice yesterday [09:31] robin0800: i got told that gdm got broken cause i did the wrong update yesterday morning i did a sudo ap-get update instead of a sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe_update [09:31] this caused a particial update and now my gdm is hosed. [09:34] ugh how ever you spell the dang word. [09:34] ugh [09:38] Oh.. [09:38] So GDM is borked eh? [09:38] Here I was assuming it was my vbox guest additions driver. [09:38] well yeah mine is..lol [09:39] nandemonai: and mine and compiz too won't start [09:40] Makes sense now lol [10:00] did any of you, updates the "gdm" package, and when on the login screen, had a new splash-screen? [10:02] iPoRn: you mean the login screen looks like the fedora one? yes [10:03] do you have any ideia how to change that? [10:03] c'os on the startup-manager, i can't change it [10:04] iPoRn: since there is no GUI configuration tool for it yet you'll have to stick with it [10:04] ok, tks [10:05] can any one help me trouble shoot a wifi problem [10:05] !ask | eagles0513875 [10:05] eagles0513875: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [10:06] for some reason i am unable to connect to my access point its wpa encrypted but it works on jaunty but not on karmic it seems that the access point denies association with a code 13 [10:09] i remember that issue being a bug in jaunty but it seems to have resurfaced in karmic alpha 2 [10:11] yofel: any idea as to my issue [10:24] eagles0513875: not really, what's your card? also: wpa or wpa2? mixed mode? [10:25] my card is a broadcom bcm4311 rev2 card [10:25] im using the b43-fwcutter [10:25] let me check if wpa or wpa2 [10:26] yofel: its wpa2 mixed [10:26] I'm no expert here, and since I don't know anything about broadcom cards I don't think I can help you, sry [10:27] ok will go hunt on launchpad [11:11] anyone a wifi guru thats around cuz im having issues connecting to my wpa2 mixed wifi ap [11:33] bom dia ppl [11:38] morning [11:38] BUGabundo: since you seem to be the bugspert lol [11:39] are there bugs against wpa2 mixed encrypted connections on karmic [11:39] not that I know [11:40] but this cycle I've been soooooooooooooo backloged :(((( [11:40] eagles0513875: last time I tried it, it WFM [11:40] wfm???? [11:40] wpa2 mixed mode works fine in jaunty what changed in karmic [11:41] Works For Me [11:41] eagles0513875: lots changed! entire new kernel stack [11:41] and new iwtools [11:41] you able to connect to a wpa2 mixed mode connection on karmic alpha 2 [11:41] BUGabundo: gdm and compiz appear broke after new fast switcher applet yesterday any bugs raised? [11:41] cuz i just upgraded from jaunty [11:41] eagles0513875, try both 2.6.30 and 2.6.31 kernels. If it's broken in .31 and working in .30, then make sure you file a bug if you haven't already. .31 is still under development, and that sort of breakage is completely normal [11:42] robin0800: I have all updates and it works [11:42] cwillu: its not working in 30 [11:42] robin0800: someone else complained about it yesterday [11:42] cwillu: should i try go back to the jaunty kernels which i still have installed [11:42] eagles0513875, worth a shot, yes [11:42] * BUGabundo pokes cwillu with a stick full of Saudades!! [11:42] rebooting now [11:43] * BUGabundo finally remembers to file a bug on nvidia hue [11:43] * cwillu pokes BUGabundo with a I-got-up-20-hours-ago,I'm-just-filling-out-my-time-sheets-so-I-can-get-paid-and-then-I'm-going-to-bed-for-16-hours :p [11:43] here is something that isnt right [11:43] it's a whinekabob! [11:43] BUGabundo: perhaps its just the open drivers that have problems [11:43] cwillu: here is a new problem [11:44] its showing me verbose out put of shutdown then goign back right into booting no kernel options no grub showing up no nothing [11:44] poor cwillu [11:44] eagles0513875, are you shutting down or rebooting? [11:44] i cant choose me kernel :( [11:44] rebooting [11:44] do a shutdown [11:44] cwillu what has your job making you do!?! you haven't told me what's up since last two weeks [11:44] BUGabundo, under paid programmer this week :p [11:44] :(( [11:45] haha better the no job student like me [11:45] cwillu new job for me this week. HPUX admin [11:45] but, come monday, I've got lots and lots of points scored with everyone at the office, and a stranglehold on the new product line they're putting together (or rather, I'm putting together) [11:45] BUGabundo, ooo, fun fun :) [11:46] really? [11:46] never touched it before! totally new experience! [11:46] weeeeeeeee broken reboot script [11:46] >200 servers under my command AAHAHAA [11:46] when did karmic go to kernel 31 [11:47] but funny thing is i had this problem in also 30 and now in 31 [11:47] trying with 2.6.28-13 [11:47] eagles0513875: 3 days ago [11:47] ok [11:47] BUGabundo, I'd suggest reading the man pages in preference to just typing -h or . Other unixes are kinda bad for doing things by default that you might not want done :p [11:48] just a free tip :p [11:48] eagles0513875: that will break your GPU [11:48] cwillu like really old version of VI ? [11:48] BUGabundo, bah, you need to be able to work that anyway :p [11:48] BUGabundo: what you mean [11:48] well seems like the bug is still there in 2.6.28-13 and 2.6.31 [11:49] * cwillu notices that his timesheets start out very short, snappy, and full of progress, and gradually grow less succinct, more wordy, and describing more addled-brained behaviour as he browses through his week [11:49] maybe going into work tomorrow isnt' such a good idea :p [11:50] cwillu should I had nvidia-bugreport.sh data to my bug? [11:52] * cwillu falls asleep facedown on his keyboardssdffdsfk fggffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff [11:52] hahaha [11:52] im off to file a bug on launch pad against what i have no idea [11:53] BUGabundo: did you upgrade from jaunty or not [11:53] are you on a clean install [11:53] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/395476 [11:53] Ubuntu bug 395476 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "nvidia sets HUE to -1000" [Undecided,New] [11:53] I mean seriously, when you need to figure out the formatting code to get openoffice to display a time after 24:00 as a number larger than 24... [11:54] eagles0513875: I did... long time ago.... one week after JJ came out [11:54] (it's [HH]:MM, btw) [11:54] hahah also BUGabundo speaking of nvidia graphics for some reason on karmic my 1280x800 seems alot higher then that lol [11:54] everything is so much smaller or the start bar on the bottom shrank [11:54] thata not resolution its Font Size or DPI [11:55] * yofel wonders what idiot programmed BUGabundos bios... [11:56] good morning [11:56] lol [11:56] yofel: right! bad and closed OEM [11:57] its an asustek barebone S37S [11:57] can't find a bios update either! [11:57] have to go! [11:57] bbl [11:58] * BUGabundo $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/time; echo bbl [12:00] cwillu: :( did you do a clean install of karmic or upgraded from jaunty [12:01] clean install? that's silly talk :p [12:02] that laptop's been upgraded since edgy, and my desktop since hoary :p [12:02] I'm definitely going to bed now, sorry :p [12:04] humm [12:11] that hue bug is interesting: mplayer - works, vlc - works, totem - wrong hue, after I tried totem the hue was wrong in mplayer and vlc as well... [12:11] gstreamer broken? [12:20] what's the matter with karmic at the moment? [12:21] X crashes [12:21] cbr: doesnt for me [12:21] and irssi did too if i didnt do chmod 777 /dev/null [12:21] but X still crashes [12:21] looks like udev fuckups? [12:21] strange im having issues connecting to wifi [12:21] !language | cbr [12:21] cbr: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [12:22] sorry, didn't find another word to appropriately describe the situation [12:23] anyway, yeah.. i'm X-less [12:23] pretty frustrating :p [12:24] cbr: you try reconfiguring x [12:25] which package? [12:26] cbr: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think [12:27] wasn't there also an option for this in the recovery mode? [12:27] X starts for me anyway [12:27] KDM displays [12:27] but when i try to open a desktop or window manager, it crashes [12:27] cbr: what card? [12:27] intel gm965 [12:28] anything useful in Xorg.0.log.old ? [12:28] cbr: you can drop down to init 1 and reconfigure x that way also try run fsck as of late i have found that fixes alot of interesting issue [12:28] oh wait [12:29] now it magically starts again [12:29] lol [12:29] woohoo [12:30] * eagles0513875 wonders what the odds of fsck fixing my wifi connectivity are [12:32] well yeah, X started [12:32] but sound is still abort [12:32] and all kinds of programs didnt autostart [13:25] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539142 [13:25] Gnome bug 539142 in General "Cannot go online manually if NM is not running" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [13:45] hi, the patch to https://bugs.launchpad.net/gdm/+bug/395103 causes me to be unable to login, gdm crashes after selecting my default user, does anybody have an idea how to get a good backtrace of this? i already tried "sudo gdb /usr/bin/gdm-binary" but no crash showed up [13:45] Ubuntu bug 395103 in gdm "Gnome doesn't have my configured keyboard layout after login anymore" [High,Fix released] [13:46] ah, possibly it isn't gdm-binary that is crashing but gdm-simple-greeter, maybe i should try gdb on that one [14:15] Hiyas all [14:15] hey BluesKaj [14:16] yofel: could you reproduce the totem bug? [14:16] 'cause for me it happens on any player [14:16] billybigrigger: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395476 [14:16] Ubuntu bug 395476 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "nvidia sets HUE to -1000" [Undecided,New] [14:17] hi BUGabundo ...went bacj to ff3.0 . ff3.5 wouldn't link thru thunderbird URLs even after editing the config editir to make FF3.5 t6he default browser [14:18] BluesKaj: can you please try with FF3.6? [14:18] * BluesKaj examines swollen fingers [14:19] what's up with your finguers BluesKaj ? [14:22] jamming yestertday/last night [14:22] give the kit a good workout [14:24] ok got the i686 tarball , ff3.6 [14:24] err gave [14:25] damn plasma workspace keeps crashing as well [14:25] tarbal??? [14:26] firefox-3.6a1pre.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 [14:26] I meant https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa [14:34] BUGabundo, ok thx [14:42] anyone else with touchpad probs? [14:42] mine won't move the cursor! [14:42] and audio flat bugs! [14:44] get a mouse , i use one even with the laptop ...hate them touchpads [14:44] du [14:45] I'm using a mouse [14:45] but a touchpad not working is a bug [14:45] I need someone to confirm it [14:45] sry, i have jaunty on our lappy [14:56] touchpad working fine here [14:57] :(( [14:57] type of machine? [15:01] laptop? [15:01] barebone, unbranded [15:02] BUGabundo: i cant confirm i dont have that issue [15:02] im having wifi nightmares instead [15:10] Hi, I have a bug in karmic which is fixed upstream in mesa: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22428 can someone help me understanding if the fix will naturally reach karmic or I should report it? [15:10] Freedesktop bug 22428 in Drivers/DRI/i915 "[bisected 945GME]mesa xdemo/glxcontexts run aborted with error: Assertion `!obj->Pointer'" [Major,Verified: fixed] [15:11] perhaps better in the bugs channel [15:12] Le-Chuck_ITA: or motu if it is in universe [15:13] BUGabundo, so what is the proper name to call FF3.6 in T-bird about.config to make it the default browser ... the strange thing is , if i make it (firefox-3.6 %u) the global default browser,thunderbird doesn't recognize it as such. [15:13] I hope mesa is not in universe, in fact I do not know the correspondence in ubuntu to that upstream package [15:14] BluesKaj: please ask on #ubuntu-mozillateam [15:14] !info mesa [15:14] Package mesa does not exist in karmic [15:14] !search mesa [15:14] Found: [15:15] hmm [15:15] too many packages with its name [15:15] Le-Chuck_ITA: $ apt-cache search mesa [15:15] BUGabundo, you suggested I try FF3.6 so i assumed you were using it too , but i guess you use kamail or some such , right ? [15:16] I am [15:16] but im not using tbird [15:16] kmail here! [15:16] systemsetting does the work ok for me [15:16] yeah , thought so [15:16] yeah i'v eused kamil in the past , i just don't care for it's quirks [15:17] BUGabundo: there are so many packages related to libmesa, it seems that the source package is "mesa" but launchpad can't find it [15:17] quirks? [15:17] Le-Chuck_ITA: thers no such package [15:17] I see but, apt-cache showsrc [15:17] tells me that [15:18] Source: mesa [15:18] but you are right [15:18] its the "source" LOL [15:18] I will type "mesa" in and see if it works :) [15:19] $ apt-cache policy mesa [15:19] W: Unable to locate package mesa [15:20] what's the ubuntu xorg development channel? I'll ask them [15:21] BluesKaj: blarg your not running a vm with karmic are you or karmic on a laptop by any chance are you [15:22] eagles0513875, I'm using the wifi connection , cuz the other pc needs the ethernet cable [15:23] i know but are you on karmic or jaunty [15:23] karmic [15:23] on a mixed wpa2 encrypted wifi connection [15:23] cuz its not working for me [15:24] eagles0513875, wicd ? [15:24] no the plasma widget [15:24] never really tried wicd [15:24] wicd is more stable and it remembers your settings , unlike the widget one [15:25] the widget one does as well it seems like [15:25] eagles0513875: Which of the widgets are you using [15:25] not on my setup [15:25] the plasma-widget-network-manager thats in karmic rbrunhuber [15:26] Le-Chuck_ITA: #ubuntu-x [15:26] eagles0513875: there is also a plasma-widget-networkmanagement [15:26] is that required though [15:26] That is what I'm using. But it is not working either, eagles0513875 [15:26] ok so its not only me are you running 32bit or 64bit karmic [15:27] eagles0513875: 32 bit jaunty to karmic upgrade. [15:27] me 64bit jaunt to karmic upgrade [15:27] rbrunhuber: im not sure if you would like to file a bug and i can confirm it for ya [15:28] rbrunhuber: i get 2 strange messages in dmessage regarding wifi which i have no idea what they mean [15:28] filing a bug is fine but wicd should solve your widget network management probs , eagles0513875 rbrunhuber [15:29] BluesKaj: i know but this is a regression if im not mistaken there was a bug in jaunty regarding connection issues with wpa encrypted wifi connections which was resolved [15:29] eagles0513875: As far as I see the networkmanager and wpa_supplicant are not working properly together. [15:29] ya [15:29] rbrunhuber: if you hunt down a similar bug from jaunty you can reconfirm it on karmic and i can as well [15:30] BluesKaj: The problem is that filling bugs against NetworkManger/plasmawidget/... has stopped being fun, because someone steps up to suggest wicd. [15:30] i might end up taking it upstream directly to kde dev in charge of it [15:31] BluesKaj: This does not help... to iron out the bugs in the other packages. [15:31] nope eagles0513875 , that issue was not totally solved, the widget manger/management is still flaky \ [15:32] then how come in jaunty it works perfectly fine [15:32] what is the current svn version from upstream of it [15:33] eagles0513875: BluesKaj: For me it did not work fine in jaunty, I had to go for the ppa version of the widget [15:33] strange [15:33] seems like one in karmic is svn 976478 [15:33] well, rbrunhuber I assume you want to get your own issue fixed before filing a bug ...most ppl have already switched to wicd because the widget manager is so unstable [15:34] !wicd [15:34] Sorry, I don't know anything about wicd [15:34] i would like to as well but its strange how there is a regression all of a sudden [15:34] !info wicd [15:34] wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2484 kB [15:34] !info wicd [15:34] wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-3 (karmic), package size 415 kB, installed size 2484 kB [15:34] hehe touche BluesKaj :) [15:35] eagles0513875, don't dwell on regressions , they are sometimes necessary , but not in this case , just switch to wicd and fix your problem [15:36] ya will do that as we speak but have to run where i have one last free wired connection [15:36] BluesKaj: outa curiosity can i keep both installed or once i install wicd i remove the plasma widget [15:36] wicd auto-replaces the widget manager [15:37] Thanks BUGabundo [15:38] np Le-Chuck_ITA [15:38] BluesKaj: gotcha [15:39] BluesKaj: eagles0513875: I just created a script, that kills Networkmanager and uses wpa_supplicant and dhclient directly that works like a charm and it is fast!!! [15:39] O_O [15:39] elaborate rbrunhuber [15:39] rbrunhuber: why not just uninstall networkmanager and install wpa_supplicant [15:40] or are they dependencies of one another [15:40] eagles0513875: wpa_supplicant is a dependency of networkmanager [15:40] gotcha how fast we talking about though cuz with network manager on jaunt on wifi to upgrade i was getting about 1.2mbps [15:41] eagles0513875: not the network speed is fast, but the connection time (1-2 seconds) [15:41] interested what are connection times like with wicd BluesKaj [15:42] if you want a gui type app for wifi then wicd is the way to go ...scripts are fine but I use both wired and wifi on this pc and our laptop dependeng on where we are situated === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:00] BUGabundo: back again, touchpad: mine works fine here (Thinkpad R61) - HUE Bug: I already commented on it ;) (I'm Philip) maybe something broken in gstreamer? [16:00] yofel: I know you commented [16:00] that's why I asked [16:03] BUGabundo: well, I can watch the video fine as long I use (S)Mplayer or vlc, but if I try Totem the HUE is wrong in all players from that on [16:05] ok [16:05] I guess I need to upstream it too [16:08] I think it's something in gstreamer, since the only references to HUE that grep found in totems source code were a function for the settings dialog and a gstreamer query [16:09] ''''' [16:09] '''' [16:09] robin0800: bored? [16:12] how to get all the kde dependencies without polluting gnome entirely? I have no icons in buttons in the interface of kdenlive [16:16] Le-Chuck_ITA: instal kde-icons ? [16:17] trying [16:17] but shouldn't they come as a dependency of something? [16:21] nope [16:21] installed kde-icons-nuvola [16:21] nothing [16:21] not until final snaptshot [16:22] sorry [16:22] didn't install [16:22] I am going crazy [16:24] gnome 2.29 already !? [16:26] BUGabundo: installed kdeartwork-theme-icon but nope [16:30] no idea [16:30] Le-Chuck_ITA: ask on #kubuntu-devel [16:30] yofel: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/395476 sent upstream [16:30] Ubuntu bug 395476 in totem "nvidia sets HUE to -1000" [Undecided,New] [17:36] 100% of the space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use [17:36] woot [17:36] I'm up to 95% [17:36] That's my backup drive. [17:36] 100% of the disk space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use [17:37] Wow, it literally opens a new dialog saying that, once per minute. [17:37] 100% of the disk space on the volume "EXT3_External" is in use [17:38] Now I have 3 of those windows.' [17:39] lol [17:39] hmm, is it a known bug that when a freshly installed alpha 2 system freezes when you do a partial upgrade? ~470 packages need updating. I'm also using vbox 3.0 [17:39] 4 of them. [17:39] * td123 is checking launchpad [17:40] oh yeah, the update to GDM locked up my system. [17:40] Now I have 5 of those notifications. [17:40] Is the envyNG in karmic broken for anyone else? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/209874/ [17:41] td123: DON'T do parcial updates [17:41] it means that something is still building! [17:41] DanaG: _please_ stop counting! [17:41] Zorael^2: wfm [17:41] BUGabundo: oh [17:42] td123: if you really want to install the remaining packages use aptitude [17:42] BUGabundo: but would it matter if the whole virtual system freezes when it's still downloading the partial upgrade packages? [17:42] td123: $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade [17:43] td123: with partials, you will most prob removed required packages [17:50] heh, now I have 15. [17:52] DanaG: !!!!!!! [17:53] I guess I should file a bug on that. [17:54] BUGabundo::: i saw your bug report [17:54] i sub'd it, but will be back to add to the report after the gym and some brunch [17:55] BUGabundo::: don't know if i told you already, docky = the shit [17:55] :P [17:55]