[00:32] <neilv> hello. any idea how long it'll take for an ubuntu-specific DoS exploit in apache to become a security update?
[04:18] <reduz> Hi! Pulseaudio is a bug, can it be fixed (removed) from ubuntu?
[06:33] <Hew> bug 325973 still exists with Karmic, should it be reopened or reported as a new bug?
[06:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 325973 in nautilus "gnome-session keeps respawning nautilus when no desktop is drawed" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325973
[06:43] <Hew> I'll reopen it.
[07:24] <Hew> The trace for bug 386357 / gnome bug 585595 is complete, isn't it? I don't understand why upstream is asking for glibc symbols, or which package these symbols are contained in.
[07:24] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 386357 in rhythmbox "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386357
[07:24] <ubot4> Gnome bug 585595 in general "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Critical,Needinfo] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=585595
[07:31] <jmarsden> Hew: The symbols being requested are most likely in the libc6-dbg package.
[07:32] <Hew> Thanks jmarsden. I already have that installed and I assume the apport retracer uses them too, so I'm still not sure what upstream needs.
[07:33] <jmarsden> Hew: OK... sounds like you should ask them, perhaps in a comment on the upstream bug?
[07:33] <Hew> ok, will do
[11:33] <BUGabundo> bom dia ppl
[15:11] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Hi, I have a bug in karmic which is fixed upstream in mesa: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22428 can someone help me understanding if the fix will naturally reach karmic or I should report it?
[15:11] <ubot4> Freedesktop bug 22428 in Drivers/DRI/i915 "[bisected 945GME]mesa xdemo/glxcontexts run aborted with error: Assertion `!obj->Pointer'" [Major,Verified: fixed]
[15:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> dunque
[15:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> pomplamoose video song
[15:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> cerca su youtube
[15:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> sorry
[15:12] <Le-Chuck_ITA> wrong window...
[15:12] <BUGabundo> ahaahahah
[15:13] <Le-Chuck_ITA> Luckily it was a polite conversation :)
[15:21] <Le-Chuck_ITA> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/+bug/395522
[15:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 395522 in mesa "mesa xdemo/glxcontexts run aborted with assertion error" [Undecided,New]
[15:33] <BUGabundo> hey kklimonda
[15:33] <BUGabundo> humm on mobile *again* kklimonda|W810
[15:52] <kklimonda|W810> hey
[16:07] <BUGabundo> stupid question: where do I file firefox 3.6 bugs?? lp on ubuntu won't allow me :(
[16:20] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395534 I have no idea which package/project set it too
[16:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 395534 in ubuntu "firefox will not come out of full screen" [Undecided,New]
[17:40] <cactaur> Hey guys! I have a question. If a bug is linked upstream, but the upstream bug was found as a duplicate, should I update the launchpad bug to point to the other bug?
[17:42] <BUGabundo> good question!
[17:42] <BUGabundo> doenst LP know about it ?
[17:44] <cactaur> Umm.... according to LP, the bug is marked as invalid, but upstream it was just marked as a duplicate.
[17:44] <cactaur> And I was actually looking at your FF bug <.<
[17:45] <cactaur> It was missing a package.
[17:47] <BUGabundo> mine?
[17:47]  * BUGabundo hides
[17:47] <BUGabundo> lolol
[17:47] <BUGabundo> right upstream marked it as dupe!
[17:47] <BUGabundo> and LP closed it?? bad LP
[17:47] <BUGabundo> let me file a bug on it! LOL
[17:48] <cactaur> Well, LP saw it upstream as invalid.
[17:48] <cactaur> On Ubuntu, there's been nothing done.
[17:48] <BUGabundo> yeah... that..
[17:49] <BUGabundo> I don't know where to file Firefox 3.6
[17:49] <BUGabundo> its not in Ubuntu Archives
[17:49] <BUGabundo> and I don't file a team BTS for it
[17:49] <BUGabundo> fta and asac are away right now
[19:27] <hggdh> cactaur, go ahead an update the LP upstream link
[19:31] <hggdh> hey BUGabundo
[19:31] <BUGabundo> hey hggdh desparecido !
[19:31] <BUGabundo> hggdh: cactaur: I already did
[19:32] <BUGabundo> hggdh: shouldn't be LP doing so?
[19:34] <hggdh> Well, the bug was closed invalid upstream...
[19:34] <hggdh> (as a dup)
[19:35] <bcurtiswx> hey BUGabundo, hggdh
[19:35] <BUGabundo> hggdh: but the nondupe was NEW
[19:35] <BUGabundo> bad BTS ?
[19:35] <hggdh> hi bcurtiswx
[19:36] <hggdh> BUGabundo, I am not sure. All I know is this is how it has always been, AFAICR
[19:36] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[19:38] <bcurtiswx> i recommend to everyone here, the mini and karmic are a bad mix at the moment
[19:41] <BUGabundo> mini?
[19:41] <BUGabundo> hey chrisccoulson
[19:41] <chrisccoulson> hi BUGabundo
[19:41] <bcurtiswx> BUGabundo: dell mini 90
[19:41] <bcurtiswx> 9*
[19:41] <BUGabundo> ahhhh
[19:42] <BUGabundo> what's broken other then the usual bcurtiswx?
[19:42] <bcurtiswx> the intel driver makes the screen go to random colors at random times
[19:42] <bcurtiswx> i try to reproduce it and its not possible
[19:42] <bcurtiswx> lol
[19:42] <bcurtiswx> its that random
[19:43] <BUGabundo> ahah
[19:43] <BUGabundo> tried x-edger driver?
[19:43] <bcurtiswx> yea
[19:43] <bcurtiswx> no help
[19:44] <bcurtiswx> ive got a bug for it.. but bryce knows about it, so for now its out of my hands
[19:49] <elena09> hello
[19:51] <BUGabundo> nixternal: ping
[19:51] <BUGabundo> (07:38:54 PM) bcurtiswx: i recommend to everyone here, the mini and karmic are a bad mix at the moment
[19:52] <nixternal> yo
[19:52] <BUGabundo> (07:42:55 PM) bcurtiswx: the intel driver makes the screen go to random colors at random times
[19:52] <nixternal> oh, I don't even get that far
[19:52] <BUGabundo> hello elena09. welcome back due
[19:52] <nixternal> I can't even get to KDM
[19:52] <BUGabundo> *dude
[19:52] <BUGabundo> nixternal: aaah
[19:52] <bcurtiswx> lol
[19:52] <BUGabundo> back to +1
[19:52] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: you should be there too
[19:53] <nixternal> bcurtiswx: did you have to do anything funky to get X at least working somewhat?
[19:53] <bcurtiswx> no, it was so bad i went back to jaunty :-X
[19:54] <elena09> I set acpi=off at boot starting, and the temperature of my hard disk is 52 Celsius degrees
[19:55] <nixternal> heh, I need Karmic so I can work on the Kubuntu Netbook Edition
[19:55]  * BUGabundo pulls bcurtiswx ear and drag him to #ubuntu+1
[19:55] <bcurtiswx> hey now, no ear dragging allowed
[19:55]  * ogra throws little wet sticky paperballs at nixternal 
[19:56] <bcurtiswx> this channels turning into a high school.. bugs the principal pulling ears and ogras the bully shooting spitballs
[19:56] <ogra> nixternal, hey, happy 4th
[19:56] <BUGabundo> hey ogra long time no see
[19:56] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: ahaahaha
[19:57] <BUGabundo> Approved Seal of ReDent
[19:57] <ogra> BUGabundo, well, i'm always around just not always active in here
[19:57] <BUGabundo> ogra: yeah I know! you been uber busy too
[19:58]  * bcurtiswx waves to ogra,
[19:58] <bcurtiswx> nice to meet you
[19:58] <ogra> yeah, working on ARM enablement keeps me busy
[19:58] <nixternal> ogra: thanks :)
[20:01] <nixternal> nomodeset :)  that is my friend of late
[20:03] <elena09> http://forum.ts.fujitsu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=39835 that is a bad BUG!!
[20:04] <elena09> and no one knows how to solve it ; see also: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/374121
[20:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 374121 in acpi-support "acpi-support 0.121 causes ~+10c increase in HD temp." [Undecided,Triaged]
[20:07] <ogra> well, slangasek seems to know about it ...he apparently commented
[20:07] <ogra> and gave an accurate explanation
[20:09] <elena09> but he didn't give a solution; I have 53 Celsius degrees Celsius now, and only Pidgin is running and Firefox. And AC adapter is unplugged
[20:09] <ogra> read what he wrote
[20:09] <ogra> there is no solution
[20:10] <elena09> I read it
[20:10] <ogra> yu either have excessive park cycles or the tem raises
[20:10] <ogra> *temp
[20:11] <elena09> yes
[20:11] <ogra> /etc/acpi/start.d/90-hdparm.sh rules that, you could edit that
[20:11] <ogra> and go with the excessive parking all the time instaed
[20:11] <elena09> Now laptp is on batery only, acpi=off, no parkings anymore, but 53 Celsius
[20:12] <ogra> (note that until recently all distros had that excessive parking on by default since its a HW vendor setting, i havent seen dead disks up to today due to it)
[20:12] <elena09> excessive parkings destroy HDD very fast
[20:12] <ogra> it doeesnt
[20:13] <ogra> it lowers the lifecycle
[20:13] <ogra> but you wont use the disk long enough to notice unless you actually use a laptop for more than 10 years
[20:14] <elena09> so, you say that excessive parking is better than excessive heat?
[20:14] <ogra> your choice
[20:14] <elena09> the clicks of parking are annoying...
[20:14] <ogra> users complained a lot that we didnt do anything against the excessive parking due to the FUD that came up
[20:15] <elena09> FUD?
[20:15] <ogra> so now the parking is handled
[20:15] <ogra> yes, FUD
[20:15] <elena09> what'sFUD?
[20:15] <ogra> its true it lowers the lifetime of a disk
[20:15] <ogra> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt
[20:15] <elena09> ok
[20:16] <ogra> but its not as dramatic as it is outlined by many people
[20:16] <elena09> like this one: http://paul.luon.net/journal/hacking/BrokenHDDs.html ?
[20:16] <ogra> you can compare it to waering out a USB key ... theoretically these have a limited amount of write cycles
[20:17] <ogra> i have USB keys to which i do a test install once a day ... including a swap partition which is proven to do horrible amounts of writes to the key ...
[20:18] <ogra> my oldest is a 4 years 2G key old and still doesnt show any corruption
[20:19] <elena09> ok thanks, I must leave now
[20:19] <ogra> you could try experimenting with hdparm a bit
[20:19] <ogra> to find a roper compromise between heat and parking
[20:20] <ogra> *proper
[20:20] <ogra> the prob is that its really specific to certain disks ... which is why the setting wasnt touched for so long ... such problems were predictable ... there is no common setting that works for everyones HW
[20:53] <BUGabundo> ogra: I have a 8GiB kingston with one year and its seems to have lots of trouble being read!
[21:05] <billybigrigger> hey everyone
[21:06] <billybigrigger> is there anything i can do to get vbox 2.24 working with the new kernel 2.6.31?
[21:06] <BUGabundo> hummm
[21:06] <billybigrigger> or how long do i have to wait to see vbox 3.0 in the karmic repos?
[21:06] <BUGabundo> I was going to tell you something
[21:06] <BUGabundo> ahh audio
[21:06] <BUGabundo> open pavucontrol
[21:06] <billybigrigger> yeah
[21:06] <BUGabundo> and UP the levers
[21:06] <billybigrigger> all seemed good in there
[21:06] <billybigrigger> tried maxing everything
[21:06] <billybigrigger> working now after a restart
[21:07] <BUGabundo> one must have got down, due to overbusted sound
[21:07] <BUGabundo> ah ok
[21:07] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: its not static levers! it's the ones of apps playing
[21:07] <BUGabundo> those only appear when playing
[21:07] <billybigrigger> yeah
[21:07] <billybigrigger> i was trying to play with the vlc one
[21:07] <BUGabundo> which sucks for stuff that only works for half a sec
[21:07] <billybigrigger> i have sound in flash again for some reason
[21:07] <billybigrigger> haha
[21:08] <BUGabundo> oopps wrong #
[21:08] <BUGabundo> vlc as no sound for me :(
[21:08] <BUGabundo> it hasn't all karmic cycle
[21:08] <billybigrigger> well i did have sound today, not now after the restart
[21:08] <billybigrigger> really?
[21:08] <billybigrigger> still
[21:08] <billybigrigger> wow
[21:09] <BUGabundo> yeah