cjwatsonjames_w: horrible little gotcha, isn't it00:08
cjwatsonI was ... unimpressed when that caused several people's disks to be eaten00:09
james_wion: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2009/07/02#2009-07-02-python-sigpipe00:14
ionExactly what caused people’s disks to be eaten?00:16
james_wion: see the bug report00:20
cjwatsonion: subprocesses that were doing partitioning and expecting to receive commands on stdin and send responses on stdout got rather confused when stdin/stdout went away00:21
cjwatsonand carried on merrily doing something random when ordinarily they would have received SIGPIPE00:21
james_wwhat's the term for that phenomenon where you hear about something for the first time and then for a while after you find that you keep hearing about the same thing where you never noticed it before00:22
cjwatson(I forget the exact details, mercifully, but that's fairly accurate as summaries go)00:22
james_wit seems like this sort of bug should have a name00:23
cjwatsonthat sounds like a species of confirmation bias although it isn't quite the same thing ...00:24
james_wI seem to remember my neuroscientist friend saying that it had be studied and named00:25
james_wlike the "cocktail party phenomenon"00:25
cjwatsonI'm looking through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases but can't see it; I'm entirely prepared to believe it has a name though and I just can't find it :)00:26
Ngjames_w: I think star wars summed it up better than so-called neuroscientists... "your focus determines your reality" ;)00:28
Ngjames_w: http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=41700:37
nellerythat's probably it00:40
nellerywikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baader-Meinhof_phenomenon00:40
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radixI'm testing an upgrade to karmic and it's failing because of a dependency problem between various packages, and I can't figure out which package is at fault by reading apt.log02:40
radixthough the package that the upgrade tool is reporting as being unable to be installed is ubuntu-desktop02:40
radixI'd like to file a bug, I just don't know where it should be filed02:42
radixoh, I see stuff related to fast-user-switch applet and I see a change from pitti about FUSA dependencies on ubuntu-desktop recently. guess it's related.02:47
wgrantradix: The new gdm breaks fusa. Remove fusa if you don't need it, or keep gdm 2.20.03:07
radixwgrant: okay. is there already a bug filed about that? would filing one be valuable?03:08
radixI just removed fusa and that removed ubuntu-desktop and UNR but the upgrade now seems to be working.03:08
wgrantradix: It's known. It's even mentioned in the gdm changelog.03:10
radixokay, cool.03:11
reduzhi guys, i'm here just to ask how in your right minds did you allow pulseaudio in ubuntu04:09
reduzkeeps crashing randomly since a few versions, never been stable, and likes to use 20% cpu when opening sound with bufers < 1024 frames04:10
reduzremoving it causes sound to no longer work04:12
slangasekmathiaz: hrm, you want a separate package just for this?  not sure why /that/ makes sense.04:24
emgentsomeone up with intrepid ?06:52
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ograbah, where is Keybuks plenary talk on bootspeed http://video.ubuntu.com/uds/karmic/ doesnt have any plenary_4 videos :(11:10
tgpraveenactually many videos seem to be missing11:16
ogratgpraveen, only plenary_4 o far (others are not supposed to be up yet)11:22
ogra(others than plenary ones)11:23
* ogra wonders why xscreensaver resolves "gnome-session | xterm | x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator" wrongly on the armel buildd ...11:47
ograsomehow that tries to install gnome-session ... which fails on xserver-xorg11:48
ograhmm, it uses gnome-session on x86 too ... weird11:50
ogralamont, infinity, can it be that the armel buildd chroot doesnt use --no-install-recommends while the others do ?12:31
ograpitti, poke ...13:03
ograpitti, could the check for chroots in the hal initscript be moved to the reload action as well ? seems xserver-xorg deliberately calls reload from postinst now which makes installation in the armel builds fail (which in turn causes an FTBFS in xscreensaver)13:05
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ionliw: Hi. Any benchmark results yet? :-)16:09
maxbdoko: Hi, Vcs-Bzr in python2.6 points to a nonexistent branch in your namespace, can you tell me where to find the actual branch?16:14
maxbjinja2 needs promotion to main in order to satisfy sphinx depwait, what do I do to report that?16:42
Ampelbeinmaxb: follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess16:46
geserbug 38269216:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 382692 in jinja2 "Move python-jinja2 to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38269216:47
gesermaxb: ^^16:47
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netsurf3what boot system does jaunty use? initrd or initramfs?18:55
Nafallonetsurf3: this is a develop channel. for support, please see #ubuntu19:02
netsurf3i thought it was relevant19:02
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nixternalanyone have karmic rocking on a dell mini?19:58
nixternalooh, nomodeset does it :)20:01

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