| cjwatson | james_w: horrible little gotcha, isn't it | 00:08 |
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| james_w | yeah | 00:08 |
| cjwatson | I was ... unimpressed when that caused several people's disks to be eaten | 00:09 |
| ion | URL? | 00:13 |
| james_w | ion: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2009/07/02#2009-07-02-python-sigpipe | 00:14 |
| ion | Thanks | 00:14 |
| ion | Exactly what caused people’s disks to be eaten? | 00:16 |
| james_w | ion: see the bug report | 00:20 |
| cjwatson | ion: subprocesses that were doing partitioning and expecting to receive commands on stdin and send responses on stdout got rather confused when stdin/stdout went away | 00:21 |
| cjwatson | and carried on merrily doing something random when ordinarily they would have received SIGPIPE | 00:21 |
| ion | Heh | 00:22 |
| james_w | what's the term for that phenomenon where you hear about something for the first time and then for a while after you find that you keep hearing about the same thing where you never noticed it before | 00:22 |
| cjwatson | (I forget the exact details, mercifully, but that's fairly accurate as summaries go) | 00:22 |
| james_w | ? | 00:22 |
| james_w | it seems like this sort of bug should have a name | 00:23 |
| cjwatson | that sounds like a species of confirmation bias although it isn't quite the same thing ... | 00:24 |
| james_w | I seem to remember my neuroscientist friend saying that it had be studied and named | 00:25 |
| james_w | like the "cocktail party phenomenon" | 00:25 |
| cjwatson | I'm looking through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases but can't see it; I'm entirely prepared to believe it has a name though and I just can't find it :) | 00:26 |
| Ng | james_w: I think star wars summed it up better than so-called neuroscientists... "your focus determines your reality" ;) | 00:28 |
| Ng | james_w: http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=417 | 00:37 |
| nellery | that's probably it | 00:40 |
| nellery | wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baader-Meinhof_phenomenon | 00:40 |
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| radix | I'm testing an upgrade to karmic and it's failing because of a dependency problem between various packages, and I can't figure out which package is at fault by reading apt.log | 02:40 |
| radix | though the package that the upgrade tool is reporting as being unable to be installed is ubuntu-desktop | 02:40 |
| radix | I'd like to file a bug, I just don't know where it should be filed | 02:42 |
| radix | oh, I see stuff related to fast-user-switch applet and I see a change from pitti about FUSA dependencies on ubuntu-desktop recently. guess it's related. | 02:47 |
| wgrant | radix: The new gdm breaks fusa. Remove fusa if you don't need it, or keep gdm 2.20. | 03:07 |
| radix | wgrant: okay. is there already a bug filed about that? would filing one be valuable? | 03:08 |
| radix | I just removed fusa and that removed ubuntu-desktop and UNR but the upgrade now seems to be working. | 03:08 |
| wgrant | radix: It's known. It's even mentioned in the gdm changelog. | 03:10 |
| radix | okay, cool. | 03:11 |
| reduz | hi guys, i'm here just to ask how in your right minds did you allow pulseaudio in ubuntu | 04:09 |
| reduz | keeps crashing randomly since a few versions, never been stable, and likes to use 20% cpu when opening sound with bufers < 1024 frames | 04:10 |
| reduz | also | 04:12 |
| reduz | removing it causes sound to no longer work | 04:12 |
| slangasek | mathiaz: hrm, you want a separate package just for this? not sure why /that/ makes sense. | 04:24 |
| emgent | someone up with intrepid ? | 06:52 |
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| ogra | bah, where is Keybuks plenary talk on bootspeed http://video.ubuntu.com/uds/karmic/ doesnt have any plenary_4 videos :( | 11:10 |
| tgpraveen | actually many videos seem to be missing | 11:16 |
| ogra | tgpraveen, only plenary_4 o far (others are not supposed to be up yet) | 11:22 |
| ogra | (others than plenary ones) | 11:23 |
| * ogra wonders why xscreensaver resolves "gnome-session | xterm | x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator" wrongly on the armel buildd ... | 11:47 | |
| ogra | somehow that tries to install gnome-session ... which fails on xserver-xorg | 11:48 |
| ogra | hmm, it uses gnome-session on x86 too ... weird | 11:50 |
| ogra | lamont, infinity, can it be that the armel buildd chroot doesnt use --no-install-recommends while the others do ? | 12:31 |
| ogra | pitti, poke ... | 13:03 |
| ogra | pitti, could the check for chroots in the hal initscript be moved to the reload action as well ? seems xserver-xorg deliberately calls reload from postinst now which makes installation in the armel builds fail (which in turn causes an FTBFS in xscreensaver) | 13:05 |
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| ion | liw: Hi. Any benchmark results yet? :-) | 16:09 |
| maxb | doko: Hi, Vcs-Bzr in python2.6 points to a nonexistent branch in your namespace, can you tell me where to find the actual branch? | 16:14 |
| maxb | jinja2 needs promotion to main in order to satisfy sphinx depwait, what do I do to report that? | 16:42 |
| Ampelbein | maxb: follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess | 16:46 |
| geser | bug 382692 | 16:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 382692 in jinja2 "Move python-jinja2 to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/382692 | 16:47 |
| geser | maxb: ^^ | 16:47 |
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| netsurf3 | what boot system does jaunty use? initrd or initramfs? | 18:55 |
| Nafallo | netsurf3: this is a develop channel. for support, please see #ubuntu | 19:02 |
| netsurf3 | i thought it was relevant | 19:02 |
| netsurf3 | nevermind | 19:02 |
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| nixternal | anyone have karmic rocking on a dell mini? | 19:58 |
| nixternal | ooh, nomodeset does it :) | 20:01 |
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