=== handrix is now known as p3rror [00:04] hello is there any motu who can advocate my python module [00:27] Why do I get... [00:27] W: kunquat source: debian-watch-file-in-native-package [00:29] cyberixae, because your package is a Native package (i.e. you are upstream, there's no non-debian source available), and you have a watch file (which would ordinarily point to the unaltered upstream source, to inform you of updates) [00:30] my watch file points to original source in Launchpad [00:30] and it works [00:31] I can get it with get-orig-sourc [00:31] e [00:34] For some reason a tar ball with the name of my package has appeared as well [00:34] funny [00:34] I never created one [00:37] debuild will use the orig in the parent folder to determine what goes into the diff.gz [00:38] no orig means it's a native package, and it creates orig as a tarball of the current folder [00:39] I forgot to rename the directory that was extracted from the original tar ball [00:39] it has a dash instead of under score [00:40] I recall doing the same mistake before [00:43] no, that's wrong [00:43] it should have a dash in it [00:46] dpkg-source: warning: source directory 'kunquat-0.2.1' is not - 'kunquat-0.2.1~twruottu1' [00:46] dpkg-source: info: building kunquat in kunquat_0.2.1~twruottu1.tar.gz [00:47] is it the ~ that somehow breaks things? [00:47] not at all [00:47] it's because it's a native package [00:47] no orig means it's a native package, and it creates orig as a tarball of the current folder [00:49] Well it is not supposed to be a native package [00:50] So, how do I change that? [00:51] what version did you use in debian/changelog? [00:52] do you have a _.orig.tar.gz in .. ? [00:55] cyberix@eval:~/my/pak/kunquat/kunquat-0.2.1$ ls ../*orig*gz [00:55] ../kunquat_0.2.1.orig.tar.gz [00:55] kunquat (0.2.1~twruottu1) jaunty; urgency=low [00:57] cyberixae: you need to add the Ubuntu revision [00:57] ? [00:57] this for a PPA [00:58] initially [00:58] as the upstream software is not yet mature enough for universe inclusion [00:58] oh, well spotted nellery [00:59] cyberixae, there's no - in the version in changelog, so it's a native package [00:59] cyberixae, i.e. it's upstream 0.2.1~twruottu1, not a package from upstream 0.2.1 [00:59] oh [01:00] try 0.2.1-0ubuntu1~twruottu1 [01:00] I wanted to make official packages overwrite mine as they appear into universe [01:00] cyberixae: it's explained a bit here, for PPAs https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Versioning [01:00] and someone told me using ~would be the way to go [01:00] it would. 0.2.1~twruottu1 is lower than 0.2.1 [01:00] but 0.2.1 is a native package version [01:02] so how do I go lower than 0 after a - [01:03] the lowest thing that would ever go there in an official package is 0ubuntu1 [01:03] so you need to be lower than 0ubuntu1 [01:03] how about packages that come from debian [01:04] do they also have -0 [01:04] the lowest thing that would ever go there in an official package is 1 [01:04] -0twruottu1 is lower than -0ubuntu1 [01:04] right? [01:05] yes, but it looks ugly :) [01:05] or I could go with -0kunquatppa1 [01:05] or -0kunquat1 [01:05] or -0kqt1 [01:05] or -0kqtppa1 [01:06] (sorry for the flood) === lukjad007 is now known as ShadowChild [01:24] Thank you guys. [01:24] You have been most helpfull. [01:24] Now I'm going to sleep. [01:24] Good night. [01:38] i've created a deb package for an application (it's in a launchpad PPA). i'm trying to install a folder with dh_installdocs. in it's man page i read that i can specify such things in debian/package.docs but that file seems to be ignored [01:39] does dh_installdocs need an option so that it looks for that file or should that be detected automatically? [01:43] mm. works when i specify the folder as parameter to dh_installdocs and not using that .docs file === Snova_ is now known as Snova [01:49] how does one close a bug in debian? that has an RFP? [01:49] couldn't find a definte guide it seems. [01:58] recreatedme: you can mail nnnn-done@bugs.debian.org [01:59] if you want to close it with a version, the first line of the mail should have [01:59] Version: 1.2.3-1 [01:59] you can also close with an upload, adding a Closes: #123 to you changelog [02:00] they said something, make yourself as the owner of the package? [02:00] should i mail nnn-done with something like [02:00] http://paste.debian.net/40939/ [02:01] oh, an RFP [02:01] then no, yo udon't want to close it [02:01] nor mail -done [02:02] what you want to do I think is become the owner and retitle it to ITP [02:02] (do you want to package and maintain that software?) [02:02] hmm, you're confusing me :) [02:02] what bug# is it? [02:02] yes pucho [02:03] hang on [02:03] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=381263 [02:03] Debian bug 381263 in wnpp "TAG: gyachi -- A Yahoo! client for Linux operating system" [Rfp,Closed] [02:03] oops [02:04] is that right, but it says it's close? [02:24] how does one mail "control@b.d.o" for debian? [02:24] i know this is debian specific [02:25] but, well, this is just seem to a more helpful channel :) [02:25] to be* [02:25] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control [02:26] it's just that gmail doesn't recognize the address [02:26] ? control@bugs.debian.org is being seen by gmail as an invalid address? I doubt it. [02:28] jmarsden control@b.d.o [02:28] b.d.o is IRC shorthand for bugs.debian.org. Read the docs at the link I posted! [02:28] omg! [02:28] i really didn't realize that [02:31] Friday night at brazil, drinking a beer and waiting patiently for a men with spare time, a good heart and a brave soul to review my package (it already got one advocate). It is a python end user app to build computer vision algorithms from block diagrams. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/harpia === santiago-pgsql is now known as santiago-ve [06:35] hi, just wanna as if ubuntu lintian really is different with lintian debian? [06:38] my ubuntu lintian says no more errors & warning, while debian reviewers that there lintian says more? [06:45] is there a way to mask packages out of a repo so that you don't upgrade them? [06:45] or so that you only see certain packages? [06:52] someone up with intrepid ? [06:53] * andrew_sayers raises his hand for emgent [06:54] jetsaredim: man apt_preferences [06:55] andrew_sayers: cool, can i query you ? [06:55] emgent: surely. [07:02] again, someone have an intrepid box? [07:03] no, I think most of us would have upgraded by now [07:03] does it have to be an actual install & not a chroot? [07:03] :| [07:03] I have an Intrepid VM (virtualbox-ose) ... host OS is Jaunty... any use? [07:04] i think that there is a blocker issue in perl base updates (via security fixes) [07:04] jmarsden: can work! [07:04] what sort of issue? [07:04] can you run intrepid ? [07:04] OK... yes, sure... [07:04] ajmitch: after perl update: [07:04] Reading state information... Done [07:04] Calculating upgrade... Failed [07:04] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [07:04] libmono-system-web2.0-cil: Depends: libgdiplus but it is not going to be installed [07:04] xbase-clients: Depends: x11-apps but it is not going to be installed [07:04] Depends: x11-utils but it is not going to be installed [07:04] E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. [07:04] (in apt-get dist-upgrade) [07:05] but i need a confirm. [07:05] jmarsden: type, apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade [07:05] Intrepid VM is running, how do I trigger the bug? [07:05] * ajmitch doesn't see anything perl-related there [07:05] OK.. [07:05] there are some flags you can pass to apt-get to get it to be more verbose, I can't remember what they are though [07:06] jmarsden: some errors? [07:07] Not yet... is says 309 upgraded 5 newly installed do I wish to continue... I'll say Y? [07:07] ya [07:07] OK. [07:08] It's downloading... will be about 5 more minutes to get all those packages... [07:08] emgent: it may be something that only shows up with certain packages installed [07:08] ok jmarsden thanks [07:08] jmarsden: and it should have broke before now if it was going to [07:08] Oh, OK... then... it's fine :) [07:43] hi [07:44] I have been trying to learn packaging in ubuntu for a while, and I came a across a snag [07:44] so I was hoping someone here could help me out [07:45] I was playing around with debian/rules, and I noticed that if I tried to change folders while the package is compiling, changing folder does not take effect [07:46] in other words, placing "cd example" in "debian/rules" does not have any effect [07:46] am I missing something? [07:57] ramaddan: Because debian/rules is a makefile, and each tabbed-in line in a makefile is executed using a different shell [07:58] ok, got that [07:58] hmmm [07:59] that's what semicolons and backslashes are for [08:00] oh, to keep it within the same shell [08:00] and when parentheses close, then goes on to a new shell [08:00] is that correct? [08:02] obviously depends on how it's written [08:05] ok, trying out right now, so that I can get a better understanding of how it works [08:09] it worked :-) [08:10] ok, that is one thing of my list of learning, but still much more to learn [08:11] thanks for the help in the right direction [08:16] ramaddan: no worries - I'm no packaging expert - but I've written a few makefiles === Nicke_ is now known as Nicke === asac_ is now known as asac === hsitter is now known as aerztelogger === ShadowChild is now known as lukjad007 [11:49] james_w: for distributed development we really need to hook up bzr with CIA ;-) [11:50] aerztelogger: there is such a hookup available [11:50] well, only for client-side === aerztelogger is now known as at_aerzte_logger [15:07] how do I add an app to the menu? [15:07] er... as part of the package install process [15:08] https://edge.launchpad.net/~carlfk/+archive/ppa dvswitch - 0.9~alpha-0.1~ppa1 [15:09] what do I do in debian/rules so that when that is installed /usr/bin/dbswitch gets added to Apps/Sound&Video [15:23] CarlFK1, you need to install a .desktop file [15:23] fabrice_sp: thanks - that sounds like enough for me to go on [15:24] ok ;-) [15:26] *grumble* I guess I need to find/make an icon... [15:28] yes: if the app does not have one. Otherwise, your app will appear with the ugly default one [15:30] where should the icon get installed? [15:33] Icon=/usr/share/mysql-workbench/images/MySQLWorkbench-48.png [15:33] that ok? [15:36] CarlFK1, no [15:37] I'm checking === keylocker is now known as leleobhz [15:45] /usr/share/pixmaps/ [15:47] thanks [15:48] I am working on something else, mysql-wb was my random pick to look at. I'll send a note off to them [15:50] if my app foo includes some images that are used when it is run, is /usr/share/foo/images where they should go? [15:51] it provides a test image to stream to a video mixer - the "1" and "2" things in this screen shot: http://pictures.personnelware.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.ShowItem&g2_itemId=5957 [15:52] where does the app expect them? [15:53] currently ~/temp :) [15:54] then /usr/share/foo/images sounds fine :) [15:54] thanks === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:01] I can use .svg for icon ? (good, because that's the master format) [16:02] yes [16:32] odd.... 'sphinx' needs a merge but is not listed on merges.ubuntu.com, why might that be? [16:34] oh, no it doesn't, it's just a multi-level chain of depwait nastiness [16:46] and it waits on jinja2 getting moved to main (MIR is filed and waiting on processing) [16:46] bug 382692 [16:46] Launchpad bug 382692 in jinja2 "Move python-jinja2 to main" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/382692 === azeem_ is now known as azeem [16:49] what defines where in the menu tree the item will be? [16:50] Category in the .desktop file (IIRC) [16:50] as in, i want /usr/bin/dbswitch under Apps/Sound&Video [16:50] does something else map Category to menu stuff? [16:51] every WM which implements the freedesktop specification for desktop files [16:52] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec [17:03] Hi [17:03] I need help with vi .bashrc [17:03] I am busy with the tutorial with daniel on YouTube [17:04] He goes to vi .bashrc [17:04] then [17:04] he goes to the bottom and starts typing [17:04] I can get "~" that thing but don't know how to type or get down there to type [17:04] you don't need to use vi [17:05] you could use whatever $EDITOR [17:05] ok [17:05] let's try [17:05] umm I am quite new that's why I am doing theese tutorials [17:06] in vi .bashrc [17:06] it shows [17:06] ~ [17:06] ~ [17:06] ~ [17:06] ~ [17:06] ~ [17:06] ~ [17:06] ~ [17:06] ~ [17:06] but, I can't go there to type [17:06] how do I do that [17:06] ? [17:06] please don't do that :) [17:06] use another editor [17:06] do "gedit .bashrc" [17:06] like what? [17:06] like one that you know how to use [17:07] o ok [17:07] geser: if you have a moment, mind doing a no-change upload of haskell-x11-xft, please? [17:07] let's see if it works [17:11] I have to do it in vi [17:11] ? [17:11] can anyone help me with vi. [17:11] it is the only way I can do it [17:12] I am registering a key [17:12] I suggest reading the vim documentation then [17:12] and/or tutorial [17:12] link maybe? [17:13] google might help [17:14] can someone help me register my GNG key [17:15] GPG sorry [17:16] PPDP12: you dont need vi for that [17:16] just wherever it says vi, use gedit [17:16] It does not work I have to execute the command but in gedit I can't [17:17] which command? [17:17] vi .bashrc [17:17] then [17:18] export DEBFULLNAME="myname" [17:18] that's not a command [17:18] that's content [17:18] How do I do that?????? [17:18] $ gedit .bashrc [17:18] then type [17:18] PPDP12: you write it into your .bashrc [17:18] DEBFULLNAME="Foo Bar" [17:18] with your faviourite editor [17:18] then save [17:18] and close [17:18] no need to use vi [17:19] but if you want to use vi, read some manual as azeem said [17:19] so I just save .bashrc? [17:19] in gedit? [17:19] PPDP12: what else do you think? [17:19] sorry I am new [17:19] if you edit a file, and want the changes to be permanent, you need to save it [17:19] I don't think that is different on other operating systems [17:20] yes I know that [17:20] Sherlock [17:20] why do you ask then? [17:21] nvm [17:32] ok [17:32] need help on the last thing [17:34] he edits A file .pbuilderrc [17:34] I editted it [17:34] now [17:35] he types "sudo pbuilder create" [17:35] now [17:35] I type in my password [17:35] !enter [17:35] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [17:35] sry [17:35] then I get this Error "sudo: pbuilder: command not found" [17:36] what can I do to fix it? [17:38] PPDP12: paste everthing from what you typed on to http://dpaste.com/ and post the link here [17:38] anyone, please help:-( [17:38] it will look something like this: [17:39] http://dpaste.com/63162/ [17:39] PPDP12: probably you need to install the pbuilder package [17:39] how [17:39] azeem: hush :) [17:39] this is out of scope here [17:40] PPDP12: I suggest asking #ubuntu [17:40] yeah, I was thnking this needed to be moved somwerer [17:41] here is the link of mine: http://dpaste.com/63163/ [17:44] anyone? [17:44] huh - guess you don't get the tips with sudo... [17:44] yeah, what azeem said: I suggest asking #ubuntu [17:45] i tried [17:46] try asking again tomorrow or on the forums [17:46] k :( [17:46] or try to find some tutorial on package management [17:51] ok [17:51] well I tried too install pbuilder and I got this: [17:51] Reading package lists... Done [17:51] Building dependency tree [17:51] Reading state information... Done [17:51] The following extra packages will be installed: [17:51] bsd-mailx build-essential dctrl-tools diffstat dpkg-dev dput g++ g++-4.3 [17:51] gettext intltool-debian libapr1 libaprutil1 libauthen-sasl-perl [17:52] that's what is causing the problem, I think [17:54] quick question regarding use of other source, which is not a package, in my package [17:54] I guess no one can help [17:54] i can either include it in a subdirectory, or i can include the tarball and have make targets to untar and patch it [17:55] which is the preferred approach for the source .tar.gz I'll be distributing and want to turn into a .deb? [18:03] ingenthr: Difficult to comment without more detail on what the two packages are and why one needs to embed the other [18:05] hey fellas! How about reviewing/advocating this package: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/harpia . It already got one advocation! It is a python GUI app to build (and test) computer vision applications! [18:07] PS: if you have a webcam, try it! Its a lot of fun! [18:08] cpscotti: Section:science ? from the description I would expect video [18:08] it is a science app [18:09] you can use as inputs video or pictures [18:09] in depth it is a Image processing/ Computer Vision program... so.. its science.. [18:26] CarlFK1: reviewing? [18:27] cpscotti: kinda. I don't really know what I am doing, so I am in no possision to promote it [18:27] but if I see things that seem odd. Ill let you know [18:27] CarlFK1: thanks anyway.. [18:28] thanks [18:30] cpscotti: icon="/usr/share/harpia/images/harpia.xpm"\ - I think I just leaned that should be in /usr/share/pixmaps/ [18:45] dtchen: done [19:03] CarlFK1: I see what you're saying.. but that .xpm is only used inside the app. The app icon (used in the menu, app icon etc) is at /usr/share/pixmaps.. : harpia.svg [19:04] cpscotti: ah, never mind - like I said.. im clueless [19:04] but made me think anyway! [19:04] (and maybe... i am just as clueless as u) [19:04] CarlFK1: have you tried the app? [19:05] cpscotti: not yet.. and just noticed 1/2 the day is over... [19:06] so I need to get outside and dink with my car before it gets dark [19:06] "dink" ? [19:06] futz... tinker... figure out why the shifter cable fell off yesterday [19:07] and figure out how to keep it from falling off again so I dont have to keep reaching under my car, avoid the exhaust pipe and stick it back on [19:08] heeauheha [19:08] Lol [19:12] maxb: thanks... more detail, one package is some other Open Source, not in Ubuntu, which we have a few delta patches on [19:12] maxb: we're working with them to incorporate our patches, but it could take a little while [19:14] maxb: two approaches I have: 1) include the upstream tarball, create make targets to untar, patch [19:14] maxb: 2) include the upstream source, already patched, with the patches living there in a directory so people can see what has changed [19:15] all of this would go into the tarball I generate from a make dist [19:15] or i should say, either approach would go into that tarball [19:25] ingenthr: Well I suppose it's largely up to you. [19:26] I'd do it whichever way makes it easier to work with your vcs [19:48] maxb: thanks, i think untar'ing is easier for me [19:48] mainly because i have it done [19:48] but i wondered what would be more acceptable to universe [19:49] You will need to consider what would happen if someone else wanted to independently package the 3rd party library into Ubuntu *without* your patches [19:50] agreed, longer term i want to just depend upon their package in universe (even if that means I'm contributing/maintaining) [19:50] like i said, we need to work with them to get the patches into the mainline [19:51] the upstream is libmemcached, i've contributed to it before and it's fairly popular [19:51] we just had to use some things which weren't part of the public api (yet!) [19:53] huh, that's not in ubuntu yet? [19:53] libmemcached | 0.30-2 | karmic/universe | source [19:53] ingenthr: ^ [20:02] maxb: sorry [20:02] maxb: it is, we have delta patches beyond 0.30 [20:02] like i said, we're working to get them in to 0.31 or whatever comes next [20:02] Right.... embedded libraries are generally strongly frowned on [20:02] maxb: then i'd just depend on it [20:03] understood, and i would rather not do it... but it's not in there yet [20:03] hopefully soon :) should be working on that Monday [20:03] If you feel there's a likelyhood of your patches getting into libmemcached upstream soonish, I would strongly recommend depending on it as a separate package [20:03] (i frown on them too) [20:04] it's pretty likely [20:04] the only concern is we're taking some things which aren't part of libmemcached's public api and making them public [20:04] and that could be controversial (since they may not want to maintain that interface) [20:05] i don't think it'll be a problem though [20:05] only one way to find out... [20:15] of course, if there are problems with the way we've done things, we'll adjust... get libmemcached to expose what we need and then switch to whatever the public API is [20:37] warp10: If possible, take another look at harpia ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/harpia ). It already got one advocate! (python, gui, computer vision) [20:53] cpscotti: yeah, I'll try to give a look ASAP [20:54] warp10: thanks! [21:27] I tried up loading my package to our PPA for testing using dput ppa:ecere-team/ppa *source.changes [21:28] but it says "No host ppa:ecere-team/ppa found in config" [21:28] the "read about uploading" link in Launchpad just says you need to install dput, and gives no instructions on adding anything to the config. [21:28] ryanprior: which ubuntu release do you use? [21:28] 8.10 [21:29] then dput doesn't support this syntax yet [21:29] ryanprior: I just made a cheat sheet https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PpaUpload [21:29] might help [21:30] ryanprior: I use the ~/.dput.cf for this. For example, for the 389 team, I have something like: [21:30] [389] [21:30] fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net [21:30] method = ftp [21:30] incoming = ~ubuntu-389-directory-server/ubuntu/ [21:30] login = anonymous [21:30] allow_unsigned_uploads = 0 [21:30]