BUGabundoasac: sooo.... downgrade?00:01
asacBUGabundo: well. nm from MM ppa would be the right combinatiopn00:05
asacnot MM from mm and NM(a) from archive ;)00:05
asacanyway, feel free to downgrad00:05
asacthe upgrade takes a bit here00:05
asacbefore i cannot see whats going on00:06
BUGabundook ok00:06
asacmaybe its a packaging bug or something00:06
asacfta: guess what just happened ;)00:10
asacapt-get dist-upgrade -> X crash00:10
asacnow typing from console ;)00:11
asacbut X started again00:11
* BUGabundo is totally lost with NM PPAs pages :((00:11
asacluckily console is quite good with kms00:11
asacBUGabundo: four sources: archive == rock solid; NM ppa == latest 0.7; MM ppa == arhive NM + MM; NM-trunk == trunk NM + MM00:12
asacfta: i think the "restart required notification" triggered the logout00:12
asacmaybe it wasnt even a crash00:12
asacbut a session thing00:12
asacor something00:12
asacback in X1100:14
BUGabundoasac: I'm here https://edge.launchpad.net/network-manager/0.700:14
BUGabundodotn see the PPA00:14
asacii  libnm-glib0                         0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework (GLib shared library)00:14
asacii  libnm-util1                         0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework (shared library)00:14
asacii  modemmanager                        0.2.git5.ef0a604dc-0ubuntu1~mm1     D-Bus service for managing modems00:14
asacii  network-manager                     0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework daemon00:14
asacii  network-manager-gnome               0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0 network management framework (GNOME frontend)00:15
asacBUGabundo: dont use the PPAs for now00:15
asacNM ppa has broken 3g ;)00:15
asacand seems trunk as well00:15
asacand since MM ppa didnt work for you either stick with archive version for now00:15
* asac restarts NM 0.800:15
asacBUGabundo: maybe i packaged the wrong applet ;)00:18
asaclet me check00:18
BUGabundolet me know *before* I downgrade :!!00:19
BUGabundonetwork-manager-gnome will be downgraded00:24
BUGabundonetwork-manager will be downgraded00:24
BUGabundonetwork-manager-dev will be downgrade00:24
asac seems like MM is too outdated ;)00:30
BUGabundoasac: you are really tired !00:34
asacyeah well. iddnt notice that dan landed refactoring branches right before i bumped a new NM trunk00:35
asacok uploaded new mm00:56
asacto mm ppa00:56
asac(and then copy to nm trunk)00:56
jetsaredimis there a ppa with an updated thunderbird3?06:37
andrew_sayersjetsaredim: looks like ubuntu-mozilla-daily has it, but it's not building right. now.06:50
jetsaredimyea fta has it too06:51
jetsaredimmy only problem is also installing upgraded 3.5 as well, which I'm not sure I want06:51
andrew_sayersYou could apt-pin Firefox?06:52
andrew_sayersAh, which answers your question in #ubuntu-motu :)06:53
reedwhy don't you want 3.5?06:55
jetsaredimreed: i have 3.5 from the regular repos07:00
jetsaredimi mean - i suppose i could just upgrade all of the ff-related components from fta's repo07:01
reedah, I see07:01
jetsaredimnot that I have anything against fta07:01
jetsaredimjust seems like overkill if all i want is tb-207:01
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BUGabundobom dia ppl11:33
FFEMTcJI read that 3.5 final would be in the Jaunty repos yesterday.. Any word?11:35
BUGabundoFFEMTcJ: Monday now11:37
FFEMTcJ:-( thanks BUGabundo.. anything I can do to help?11:39
BUGabundoasac: any news on MM ?11:39
BUGabundoFFEMTcJ: no idea! asac is having trouble with secutiry tea11:39
BUGabundoFFEMTcJ: you can get it from mozilla security ppa11:39
FFEMTcJalreaedy have it that way.. I want to make it default tho.. heh11:40
BUGabundoFFEMTcJ: $galternatives x-www11:40
* BUGabundo $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/time; echo bbl11:58
BUGabundoasac: fta: what is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozillateam for?14:27
BUGabundofta should I upstream FF fullscreen bug?14:39
BUGabundofta micah tracked it down to one of the last 3 day14:40
ftayes, please14:46
ftaand provide the 2 rev ids you have14:46
BUGabundorev ids!?14:47
ftathey are in the version14:48
BUGabundoMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090703 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Minefield/3.6a1pre ID:2009070319485714:49
BUGabundothe date?14:49
BUGabundo  Installed: 3.6~a1~hg20090703r29981+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd114:50
BUGabundoahhh r2998114:50
* BUGabundo checks LP for last 3 days revid14:51
ftaBUGabundo, do you still have a jaunty 64 somewhere?15:06
BUGabundofta NO15:11
BluesKajhowdy folks ,running Karmic here and looking for the correct settings in thunderbird "about config" to make FF3.6 the default browser ...any hints ?15:26
BUGabundo3.6 or 3.5 ?15:33
BUGabundocutting edge I see15:38
BluesKajhey, you recommended it15:40
BUGabundome !?!?15:41
BUGabundoI just asked you if it fixed it for you15:42
BluesKajnope , still doesn't connect to any url links from t-bird15:43
BluesKajso FF3.6 is officially called minefield ?15:45
BluesKajit connects from konversation and akregator15:47
BluesKajas firefox-3.6 %u , not minefield15:47
PiciAs I understand it, Minefield is always the development version of FF. Each release gets one of the codenames though.15:48
BUGabundoPici: really?15:53
PiciBUGabundo: I think wikipedia has a good explanation of it... /me looks15:53
BUGabundoPici: ^^^?15:54
BUGabundoThe precursory releases of upcoming Firefox releases are codenamed "Minefield",  as this is the name of the trunk builds.15:54
PiciThe trunk builds are Minefield.15:54
BUGabundonow we are clear on tha15:55
BUGabundofta stupid question: where do I file 3.6 bugs?? lp on ubuntu won't allow me :(16:04
BUGabundoasac: ^^^^^^^^^^^^16:07
BUGabundofta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50237616:15
ubottuMozilla bug 502376 in General "firefox will not come out of full screen" [Major,Unconfirmed]16:15
BUGabundohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395534 I have no idea which package/project set it too16:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 395534 in ubuntu "firefox will not come out of full screen" [Undecided,New]16:20
BluesKajok BUGabundo , I did the ' sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser '  and chose /usr/bin/firefox-3.6 , then editd the 'about:config' in t-bird and changed it to firefox-3.6 from firefox-3.6 &u.. and now the links to the urls work  !   :)16:42
BUGabundosee? user error16:43
BluesKajhehe, well it's not error as much as knowing the nomenclature16:45
mbanahello all, can i help on that bug report any further?19:40
BUGabundofta: what does this mean?21:02
ubottuMozilla bug 502133 in Widget: Win32 "F11 no longer leaves fullscreen mode" [Normal,New]21:02
BUGabundo"new build posted to try; should have builds in about 2hrs."21:02
BUGabundodoes it mean that your next daily build will have the fix?21:02
BUGabundofta then what?21:04
fta"posted to try" means posted to a "try" server, a builder dedicated to on-demand builds. this doesn't mean the patch is committed in the branch/trunk21:04
ftathe resulting build is available for testing, to confirm the fix21:05
ftathen it could be committed, assuming it is in an acceptable form21:06
BUGabundoso now what?21:09
ftaor help by testing that build21:09
BUGabundohow do I do that?21:10
BUGabundofta https://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-builds/dougt@mozilla.com-1246734864/ ?21:58
ftamost likely, yes22:21
asacnice ... riots in the streets ;)23:09
asacBUGabundo: if 3.6 bugs are packaging related tell us here ... otherwise open upstream bugs23:10
asacdailies are recent enough to make them really useful for them ;)23:10
BUGabundothat's what I did23:11
BUGabundoI better close the LP task23:11
BUGabundoasac: so that is what you meant on identica23:11
asacyeah ;)23:13
asaccrazy guys23:13
asacpolice is too massive imo23:13
asaccant be that bad that they even shout at civilians here (about 3 miles away)23:13
asac"go away or otherwise you will be treated as shit by us" ;)23:14
asacBUGabundo: you probably rarely have riots in your city ;)?23:14
BUGabundocan't even recall ONE23:16
BUGabundonor in Porto23:16
asacyeah ;)23:16
BUGabundowe had two several years ago in Lisbon23:16
asacwe regularly have some in that quarter23:16
BUGabundoone that lead to the fall of PM back then (that now is President lol)23:16
asaciits a place with anarchist tradition ;)23:16
asacbut no adays its really cool and snoppy23:17
asacguess thats why police is so massive23:17
asacbut its making it worse every year23:17
asacthe more police the more fun for the folks making the riots23:17
BUGabundotime to move out ?23:17
asacnot for me23:17
asaci like it23:17
asaclast time i was in a bar right where the riots were23:17
BUGabundoyou crazy and anarchist dude23:17
asacwas really fun, because nobody inside actually bothered about all this fighting going on outside23:18
asacBUGabundo: its fixed now23:18
BUGabundotodays update broke something23:18
asacit fixed it ;)23:18
BUGabundohad lots of trouble to make it work23:18
asacdidnt you downgrade?23:18
asacBUGabundo: 3g? thought it didnt work at all before ;)23:18
asacBUGabundo: or are you talking about ~network-manager PPA?23:18
BUGabundo  Installed: 0.2.git6.869c69e22-0ubuntu~mm123:18
asacthat one is known to have broken 3g23:18
asacyeah thats the good one23:18
BUGabundoasac: MM PPA23:19
BUGabundoI think23:19
asacthat should make your huawei available in the applet at least23:19
BUGabundoI downgrade last night23:19
BUGabundoand this morning there was an update23:19
asacBUGabundo: maybe you havent upgraded everything again?23:19
BUGabundono idea23:19
asacyou also need the NM and applet bits from that archive23:19
BUGabundototal mess23:19
BUGabundoneed to put everyting in sync23:19
asacjust dist-upgrade with modemmanager installed23:19
BUGabundo  Installed: 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm223:19
asacBUGabundo: yes. thats probably incompatible23:20
BUGabundo  Installed: 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm123:20
asacBUGabundo: yes23:20
BUGabundowell its working NOW23:20
asacBUGabundo: you need 0.823:20
BUGabundobeen all afternoon23:20
BUGabundoalways on 3g23:20
asacthen all fine23:20
BUGabundoonly was on 2g for 15 min23:20
asacbut it should also work on 0.8 now23:20
asacBUGabundo: do you see signal strength?23:20
BUGabundoI have no other connection her23:21
asacor doesnt your device support that?23:21
BUGabundoif it fails I need to boot a win pc LOL23:21
asacjust 3g? nice23:21
asacif you have all the .debs on your machine23:21
asacyou can always recover ;)23:21
asacbe more optimistic23:21
asacif you dont want to check 0.8 thats fine23:21
asaci will upload it to the main archive most likely ;)23:21
BUGabundoas long as I have the packages in cache23:21
asacas new default in karmic23:21
BUGabundoform last night23:21
BUGabundowithout any tests??23:22
BUGabundoit broke for me yesterday23:22
BUGabundoI can upgrade again23:22
BUGabundowhat's the 'H' symbol in the applet?23:22
asacseems the first one is actually from a camera that one of each police fighter teams has ;)23:25
asacnot sure if thats leaking or good  to put there ;)23:25
asacBUGabundo: H means that you are on HSDPA23:25
asacthink thats the bets23:26
asacits better than E and U23:26
asacEdge and UMTS23:26
BUGabundoasac: with that poor kuality that could  have been anywher :p23:26
asacBUGabundo: yes23:26
asacBUGabundo: but its there ;)23:26
asacBUGabundo: no official videos available ;)23:27
BUGabundoright now I have all bars but no letter23:27
asacthere are even worse23:27
asacBUGabundo: on 3g?23:27
asacBUGabundo: maybe you are aon wifi too?23:27
BUGabundono wifi here23:27
asachavent seen it23:27
BUGabundowant a screenshot?23:27
asaccould be that your card doesnt support network technology querying23:27
asacwhile active23:27
asacsome modems have only one tty port23:27
BUGabundoI still have it running on cli23:27
asacso you cannot ask for status while you do ppp over it23:27
BUGabundodo want a paste of 3 h or 5000 lines23:28
BUGabundo** (modem-manager:14017): DEBUG: (ttyUSB2): <-- '<CR><LF>CONNECT 3600000<CR><LF>'23:28
asacnope ;)23:28
asacyeah if you want23:28
BUGabundo** (modem-manager:14017): DEBUG: Got failure code 3: No carrier23:28
asacBUGabundo: so you sometimes see those letters?23:28
asacand you see the signal strength?23:28
asacor never?23:28
BUGabundoI see it23:28
asacok ... then the log would indeed be interesting23:28
BUGabundojust not now23:28
asacthe stat port probably died23:29
asacBUGabundo: and now only signal strength?23:29
asacor is that also zero?23:29
asacnot sure what that means23:30
asacBUGabundo: are you connected right now?23:30
asacis that the end of the log?23:30
BUGabundohummm lost keyboard on FF23:31
BUGabundoand its not flash this time23:31
BUGabundoasac: I think that's the end23:31
BUGabundonothing after it23:31
BUGabundobut it seems to be very small23:31
BUGabundoto be connect for so many hours23:31
BUGabundoits like it stoped outputting23:31
asacBUGabundo: maybe its not running?23:32
BUGabundothen how am talking to you ?23:32
asacwhat happens if you try to reconnect?23:32
BUGabundoam I dreaming ?23:32
BUGabundodo I have to daddy ?23:32
* BUGabundo hates reconnects almost as much as reboots23:32
asacnot sure if the connection will really go down if MM is down23:32
BUGabundoI'm afraid if I disconect not conect again23:33
asacthen no23:33
asaci would just want you to run trunk ;)23:33
asacand not 0.7.1.mm23:33
BUGabundook ok23:33
asaceven though that is also good23:33
BUGabundouncommenting sources23:33
asacwhy are you somewhere where you have no wifi?23:33
BUGabundo# deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu karmic23:34
BUGabundo# deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/modemmanager/ppa/ubuntu karmic main23:34
BUGabundodeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/trunk/ubuntu karmic main23:34
BUGabundowell I do have a linkys across the street23:34
asacah ok23:34
BUGabundoa bit far from where I'm at the moment23:34
BUGabundobut if I move the living room it should work23:34
BUGabundoeehh now that I mentioned it, it got turned off23:35
BUGabundobad neighbor23:35
BUGabundocan I use 3.5 from archive and 3.6 from daily ppa?23:40
BUGabundoits stupid to spend all that bw on a app I don't run23:41
BUGabundoasac: btw upgrading to 0.823:41
BUGabundoasac: applet blows away when upgrading!23:43
BUGabundoI still have it on the cli, but not in the tray23:43
BUGabundo  Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0ubuntu1~nmt123:43
BUGabundo  Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0ubuntu1~nmt123:43
BUGabundo  Installed: 0.2.git6.869c69e22-0ubuntu~mm123:43
BUGabundoasac: any famous last words?23:45
asacgood luck ;)23:48
* BUGabundo say bye bye BUGabundo23:48
BUGabundobye bye23:48
asacback ;)23:56
asacseems wasnt too hard ;)23:57
BUGabundobuttt old applet23:57
BUGabundoantena not signal23:57
asacwhy old applet?23:57
BUGabundoalso I already notice it yesterday23:57
asacold applet + new nm daemon + mm ?23:57
asacBUGabundo: how?23:57
BUGabundono longer able to select box to allow ALL users23:57
asacBUGabundo: so seems you can connec to 3g23:57
asacBUGabundo: ok so it speaks modemmanager23:58
asacBUGabundo: if dpkg -l network-manager-gnome gives you 0.8...23:58
asacthen its fine23:58
BUGabundobut it's the old antena!23:58
asacthe applet title still says 0.7.023:58
BUGabundoI already liked the signal bars23:58
asacyeah. could be that the applet patch didnt go into trunk yet23:58
asacthe 0.7.1 build is a custom build with a few patches on top23:59
BUGabundoNetworkManager Applet 0.7.023:59
BUGabundo  Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0ubuntu1~nmt123:59
BUGabundowhy does FF crashe TWO times on every boot?23:59

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