[00:01] <BUGabundo> asac: sooo.... downgrade?
[00:05] <asac> BUGabundo: well. nm from MM ppa would be the right combinatiopn
[00:05] <asac> not MM from mm and NM(a) from archive ;)
[00:05] <asac> anyway, feel free to downgrad
[00:05] <asac> the upgrade takes a bit here
[00:06] <asac> before i cannot see whats going on
[00:06] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[00:06] <asac> maybe its a packaging bug or something
[00:10] <asac> fta: guess what just happened ;)
[00:10] <asac> apt-get dist-upgrade -> X crash
[00:11] <asac> now typing from console ;)
[00:11] <asac> but X started again
[00:11]  * BUGabundo is totally lost with NM PPAs pages :((
[00:11] <asac> luckily console is quite good with kms
[00:11] <asac> ;)
[00:12] <asac> BUGabundo: four sources: archive == rock solid; NM ppa == latest 0.7; MM ppa == arhive NM + MM; NM-trunk == trunk NM + MM
[00:12] <asac> fta: i think the "restart required notification" triggered the logout
[00:12] <asac> maybe it wasnt even a crash
[00:12] <asac> but a session thing
[00:12] <asac> consolekit
[00:12] <asac> or something
[00:14] <asac> back in X11
[00:14] <BUGabundo> asac: I'm here https://edge.launchpad.net/network-manager/0.7
[00:14] <BUGabundo> dotn see the PPA
[00:14] <asac> ii  libnm-glib0                         0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework (GLib shared library)
[00:14] <asac> ii  libnm-util1                         0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework (shared library)
[00:14] <asac> ii  modemmanager                        0.2.git5.ef0a604dc-0ubuntu1~mm1     D-Bus service for managing modems
[00:14] <asac> ii  network-manager                     0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework daemon
[00:15] <asac> ii  network-manager-gnome               0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0 network management framework (GNOME frontend)
[00:15] <asac> BUGabundo: dont use the PPAs for now
[00:15] <asac> NM ppa has broken 3g ;)
[00:15] <asac> and seems trunk as well
[00:15] <asac> and since MM ppa didnt work for you either stick with archive version for now
[00:15]  * asac restarts NM 0.8
[00:18] <asac> BUGabundo: maybe i packaged the wrong applet ;)
[00:18] <asac> let me check
[00:19] <BUGabundo> let me know *before* I downgrade :!!
[00:24] <BUGabundo> network-manager-gnome will be downgraded
[00:24] <BUGabundo> network-manager will be downgraded
[00:24] <BUGabundo> network-manager-dev will be downgrade
[00:30] <asac>  seems like MM is too outdated ;)
[00:34] <BUGabundo> LOLOLOLOLOL
[00:34] <BUGabundo> asac: you are really tired !
[00:35] <asac> yeah well. iddnt notice that dan landed refactoring branches right before i bumped a new NM trunk
[00:56] <asac> ok uploaded new mm
[00:56] <asac> to mm ppa
[00:56] <asac> (and then copy to nm trunk)
[06:37] <jetsaredim> is there a ppa with an updated thunderbird3?
[06:50] <andrew_sayers> jetsaredim: looks like ubuntu-mozilla-daily has it, but it's not building right. now.
[06:51] <andrew_sayers> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[06:51] <jetsaredim> yea fta has it too
[06:51] <jetsaredim> my only problem is also installing upgraded 3.5 as well, which I'm not sure I want
[06:52] <andrew_sayers> You could apt-pin Firefox?
[06:53] <andrew_sayers> Ah, which answers your question in #ubuntu-motu :)
[06:55] <reed> why don't you want 3.5?
[07:00] <jetsaredim> reed: i have 3.5 from the regular repos
[07:01] <jetsaredim> i mean - i suppose i could just upgrade all of the ff-related components from fta's repo
[07:01] <reed> ah, I see
[07:01] <jetsaredim> not that I have anything against fta
[07:01] <jetsaredim> just seems like overkill if all i want is tb-2
[07:01] <jetsaredim> *-3
[11:33] <BUGabundo> bom dia ppl
[11:35] <FFEMTcJ> I read that 3.5 final would be in the Jaunty repos yesterday.. Any word?
[11:37] <BUGabundo> FFEMTcJ: Monday now
[11:39] <FFEMTcJ> :-( thanks BUGabundo.. anything I can do to help?
[11:39] <BUGabundo> asac: any news on MM ?
[11:39] <BUGabundo> FFEMTcJ: no idea! asac is having trouble with secutiry tea
[11:39] <BUGabundo> FFEMTcJ: you can get it from mozilla security ppa
[11:39] <FFEMTcJ> ok
[11:40] <FFEMTcJ> alreaedy have it that way.. I want to make it default tho.. heh
[11:40] <BUGabundo> FFEMTcJ: $galternatives x-www
[11:41] <FFEMTcJ> k
[11:58]  * BUGabundo $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/time; echo bbl
[14:27] <BUGabundo> asac: fta: what is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozillateam for?
[14:37] <fta> mistake
[14:39] <BUGabundo> ok
[14:39] <BUGabundo> fta should I upstream FF fullscreen bug?
[14:40] <BUGabundo> fta micah tracked it down to one of the last 3 day
[14:46] <fta> yes, please
[14:46] <fta> and provide the 2 rev ids you have
[14:47] <BUGabundo> rev ids!?
[14:48] <fta> they are in the version
[14:48] <fta> rXXXX
[14:49] <BUGabundo> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090703 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Minefield/3.6a1pre ID:20090703194857
[14:49] <BUGabundo> the date?
[14:50] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 3.6~a1~hg20090703r29981+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1
[14:50] <BUGabundo> ahhh r29981
[14:50] <fta> yep
[14:51]  * BUGabundo checks LP for last 3 days revid
[15:06] <fta> BUGabundo, do you still have a jaunty 64 somewhere?
[15:11] <fta> http://identi.ca/notice/6054720
[15:11] <BUGabundo> fta NO
[15:26] <BluesKaj> howdy folks ,running Karmic here and looking for the correct settings in thunderbird "about config" to make FF3.6 the default browser ...any hints ?
[15:33] <BUGabundo> 3.6 or 3.5 ?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> 3.6
[15:36] <BluesKaj> hehe
[15:38] <BUGabundo> cutting edge I see
[15:40] <BluesKaj> hey, you recommended it
[15:41] <BUGabundo> aahah
[15:41] <BUGabundo> me !?!?
[15:41] <BUGabundo> ahah
[15:42] <BUGabundo> I just asked you if it fixed it for you
[15:43] <BluesKaj> nope , still doesn't connect to any url links from t-bird
[15:45] <BluesKaj> so FF3.6 is officially called minefield ?
[15:47] <BUGabundo> codename
[15:47] <BluesKaj> it connects from konversation and akregator
[15:47] <BluesKaj> as firefox-3.6 %u , not minefield
[15:48] <Pici> As I understand it, Minefield is always the development version of FF. Each release gets one of the codenames though.
[15:53] <BUGabundo> Pici: really?
[15:53] <Pici> BUGabundo: I think wikipedia has a good explanation of it... /me looks
[15:53] <BUGabundo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Firefox
[15:54] <BUGabundo> Pici: ^^^?
[15:54] <Pici> Indeed.
[15:54] <BUGabundo> The precursory releases of upcoming Firefox releases are codenamed "Minefield",  as this is the name of the trunk builds.
[15:54] <Pici> The trunk builds are Minefield.
[15:55] <BUGabundo> ok
[15:55] <BUGabundo> now we are clear on tha
[15:55] <BUGabundo> *that
[16:04] <BUGabundo> fta stupid question: where do I file 3.6 bugs?? lp on ubuntu won't allow me :(
[16:07] <BUGabundo> asac: ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[16:15] <BUGabundo> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502376
[16:20] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395534 I have no idea which package/project set it too
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ok BUGabundo , I did the ' sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser '  and chose /usr/bin/firefox-3.6 , then editd the 'about:config' in t-bird and changed it to firefox-3.6 from firefox-3.6 &u.. and now the links to the urls work  !   :)
[16:43] <BUGabundo> YAY
[16:43] <BUGabundo> see? user error
[16:43] <BUGabundo> LOL
[16:45] <BluesKaj> hehe, well it's not error as much as knowing the nomenclature
[19:40] <mbana> hello all, can i help on that bug report any further?
[21:02] <BUGabundo> fta: what does this mean?
[21:02] <BUGabundo> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502133
[21:02] <BUGabundo> "new build posted to try; should have builds in about 2hrs."
[21:02] <BUGabundo> does it mean that your next daily build will have the fix?
[21:03] <fta> no
[21:04] <BUGabundo> :(
[21:04] <BUGabundo> fta then what?
[21:04] <fta> "posted to try" means posted to a "try" server, a builder dedicated to on-demand builds. this doesn't mean the patch is committed in the branch/trunk
[21:05] <fta> the resulting build is available for testing, to confirm the fix
[21:06] <fta> then it could be committed, assuming it is in an acceptable form
[21:09] <BUGabundo> okay
[21:09] <BUGabundo> so now what?
[21:09] <fta> wait
[21:09] <fta> or help by testing that build
[21:09] <BUGabundo> right
[21:10] <BUGabundo> how do I do that?
[21:29] <fta> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:TryServer
[21:58] <BUGabundo> fta https://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-builds/dougt@mozilla.com-1246734864/ ?
[22:21] <fta> most likely, yes
[22:22] <BUGabundo> ok
[23:09] <asac> nice ... riots in the streets ;)
[23:10] <asac> BUGabundo: if 3.6 bugs are packaging related tell us here ... otherwise open upstream bugs
[23:10] <asac> dailies are recent enough to make them really useful for them ;)
[23:11] <BUGabundo> yeah
[23:11] <BUGabundo> that's what I did
[23:11] <BUGabundo> I better close the LP task
[23:11] <BUGabundo> asac: so that is what you meant on identica
[23:13] <asac> yeah ;)
[23:13] <asac> crazy guys
[23:13] <asac> police is too massive imo
[23:13] <asac> cant be that bad that they even shout at civilians here (about 3 miles away)
[23:14] <asac> "go away or otherwise you will be treated as shit by us" ;)
[23:14] <BUGabundo> ahah
[23:14] <asac> BUGabundo: you probably rarely have riots in your city ;)?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> gondomar??
[23:16] <BUGabundo> can't even recall ONE
[23:16] <BUGabundo> nor in Porto
[23:16] <asac> yeah ;)
[23:16] <BUGabundo> we had two several years ago in Lisbon
[23:16] <asac> we regularly have some in that quarter
[23:16] <BUGabundo> one that lead to the fall of PM back then (that now is President lol)
[23:16] <asac> iits a place with anarchist tradition ;)
[23:17] <asac> but no adays its really cool and snoppy
[23:17] <asac> guess thats why police is so massive
[23:17] <asac> but its making it worse every year
[23:17] <asac> the more police the more fun for the folks making the riots
[23:17] <BUGabundo> time to move out ?
[23:17] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[23:17] <asac> not for me
[23:17] <asac> i like it
[23:17] <BUGabundo> ahaah
[23:17] <asac> last time i was in a bar right where the riots were
[23:17] <BUGabundo> you crazy and anarchist dude
[23:18] <BUGabundo> btw
[23:18] <asac> was really fun, because nobody inside actually bothered about all this fighting going on outside
[23:18] <BUGabundo> MM
[23:18] <asac> BUGabundo: its fixed now
[23:18] <BUGabundo> todays update broke something
[23:18] <asac> na
[23:18] <asac> it fixed it ;)
[23:18] <BUGabundo> had lots of trouble to make it work
[23:18] <asac> didnt you downgrade?
[23:18] <asac> BUGabundo: 3g? thought it didnt work at all before ;)
[23:18] <asac> BUGabundo: or are you talking about ~network-manager PPA?
[23:18] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.2.git6.869c69e22-0ubuntu~mm1
[23:18] <asac> that one is known to have broken 3g
[23:18] <asac> yeah thats the good one
[23:19] <BUGabundo> asac: MM PPA
[23:19] <BUGabundo> I think
[23:19] <asac> that should make your huawei available in the applet at least
[23:19] <BUGabundo> I downgrade last night
[23:19] <BUGabundo> and this morning there was an update
[23:19] <asac> BUGabundo: maybe you havent upgraded everything again?
[23:19] <BUGabundo> no idea
[23:19] <asac> you also need the NM and applet bits from that archive
[23:19] <BUGabundo> total mess
[23:19] <BUGabundo> need to put everyting in sync
[23:19] <asac> just dist-upgrade with modemmanager installed
[23:19] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm2
[23:20] <asac> BUGabundo: yes. thats probably incompatible
[23:20] <asac> hmm
[23:20] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm1
[23:20] <asac> BUGabundo: yes
[23:20] <BUGabundo> well its working NOW
[23:20] <asac> BUGabundo: you need 0.8
[23:20] <BUGabundo> been all afternoon
[23:20] <asac> ok
[23:20] <BUGabundo> always on 3g
[23:20] <asac> then all fine
[23:20] <BUGabundo> only was on 2g for 15 min
[23:20] <asac> but it should also work on 0.8 now
[23:20] <BUGabundo> ahaah
[23:20] <asac> BUGabundo: do you see signal strength?
[23:21] <BUGabundo> I have no other connection her
[23:21] <asac> or doesnt your device support that?
[23:21] <BUGabundo> *here
[23:21] <BUGabundo> if it fails I need to boot a win pc LOL
[23:21] <asac> just 3g? nice
[23:21] <asac> if you have all the .debs on your machine
[23:21] <asac> you can always recover ;)
[23:21] <asac> be more optimistic
[23:21] <asac> ;)
[23:21] <asac> jt
[23:21] <asac> if you dont want to check 0.8 thats fine
[23:21] <asac> i will upload it to the main archive most likely ;)
[23:21] <BUGabundo> as long as I have the packages in cache
[23:21] <asac> as new default in karmic
[23:21] <BUGabundo> form last night
[23:21] <asac> ;)
[23:22] <asac> yeah
[23:22] <BUGabundo> ahahaha
[23:22] <BUGabundo> without any tests??
[23:22] <BUGabundo> it broke for me yesterday
[23:22] <BUGabundo> I can upgrade again
[23:22] <BUGabundo> what's the 'H' symbol in the applet?
[23:24] <asac> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAfCo7JryJo&feature=related
[23:24] <asac> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DA1lFYxgNQ&feature=related
[23:25] <asac> seems the first one is actually from a camera that one of each police fighter teams has ;)
[23:25] <asac> not sure if thats leaking or good  to put there ;)
[23:25] <asac> BUGabundo: H means that you are on HSDPA
[23:26] <asac> think thats the bets
[23:26] <asac> best
[23:26] <asac> its better than E and U
[23:26] <asac> Edge and UMTS
[23:26] <BUGabundo> asac: with that poor kuality that could  have been anywher :p
[23:26] <asac> BUGabundo: yes
[23:26] <asac> BUGabundo: but its there ;)
[23:27] <asac> BUGabundo: no official videos available ;)
[23:27] <BUGabundo> right now I have all bars but no letter
[23:27] <asac> there are even worse
[23:27] <asac> BUGabundo: on 3g?
[23:27] <BUGabundo> y
[23:27] <asac> BUGabundo: maybe you are aon wifi too?
[23:27] <BUGabundo> no wifi here
[23:27] <asac> havent seen it
[23:27] <BUGabundo> ahha
[23:27] <BUGabundo> want a screenshot?
[23:27] <asac> could be that your card doesnt support network technology querying
[23:27] <asac> while active
[23:27] <asac> some modems have only one tty port
[23:27] <BUGabundo> eeh
[23:27] <BUGabundo> I still have it running on cli
[23:27] <asac> so you cannot ask for status while you do ppp over it
[23:27] <asac> no
[23:28] <BUGabundo> do want a paste of 3 h or 5000 lines
[23:28] <BUGabundo> ** (modem-manager:14017): DEBUG: (ttyUSB2): <-- '<CR><LF>CONNECT 3600000<CR><LF>'
[23:28] <asac> nope ;)
[23:28] <asac> yeah if you want
[23:28] <BUGabundo> ** (modem-manager:14017): DEBUG: Got failure code 3: No carrier
[23:28] <asac> BUGabundo: so you sometimes see those letters?
[23:28] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:28] <asac> and you see the signal strength?
[23:28] <asac> or never?
[23:28] <BUGabundo> yep
[23:28] <BUGabundo> I see it
[23:28] <BUGabundo> both
[23:28] <asac> ok ... then the log would indeed be interesting
[23:28] <BUGabundo> just not now
[23:29] <asac> the stat port probably died
[23:29] <asac> BUGabundo: and now only signal strength?
[23:29] <asac> or is that also zero?
[23:29] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/210026/
[23:29] <BUGabundo> ah?
[23:30] <asac> not sure what that means
[23:30] <asac> BUGabundo: are you connected right now?
[23:30] <asac> is that the end of the log?
[23:31] <BUGabundo> hummm lost keyboard on FF
[23:31] <BUGabundo> and its not flash this time
[23:31] <BUGabundo> LOL
[23:31] <BUGabundo> asac: I think that's the end
[23:31] <BUGabundo> nothing after it
[23:31] <BUGabundo> but it seems to be very small
[23:31] <BUGabundo> to be connect for so many hours
[23:31] <BUGabundo> its like it stoped outputting
[23:32] <asac> BUGabundo: maybe its not running?
[23:32] <BUGabundo> then how am talking to you ?
[23:32] <asac> what happens if you try to reconnect?
[23:32] <BUGabundo> am I dreaming ?
[23:32] <BUGabundo> do I have to daddy ?
[23:32] <BUGabundo> :p
[23:32]  * BUGabundo hates reconnects almost as much as reboots
[23:32] <asac> not sure if the connection will really go down if MM is down
[23:33] <asac> heh
[23:33] <BUGabundo> I'm afraid if I disconect not conect again
[23:33] <asac> then no
[23:33] <asac> i would just want you to run trunk ;)
[23:33] <asac> and not 0.7.1.mm
[23:33] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[23:33] <asac> even though that is also good
[23:33] <BUGabundo> uncommenting sources
[23:33] <asac> why are you somewhere where you have no wifi?
[23:34] <BUGabundo> # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu karmic
[23:34] <BUGabundo> # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/modemmanager/ppa/ubuntu karmic main
[23:34] <BUGabundo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/trunk/ubuntu karmic main
[23:34] <asac> yes
[23:34] <BUGabundo> well I do have a linkys across the street
[23:34] <asac> ah ok
[23:34] <BUGabundo> a bit far from where I'm at the moment
[23:34] <BUGabundo> but if I move the living room it should work
[23:35] <BUGabundo> eehh now that I mentioned it, it got turned off
[23:35] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[23:35] <BUGabundo> bad neighbor
[23:40] <BUGabundo> can I use 3.5 from archive and 3.6 from daily ppa?
[23:41] <BUGabundo> its stupid to spend all that bw on a app I don't run
[23:41] <BUGabundo> asac: btw upgrading to 0.8
[23:43] <BUGabundo> asac: applet blows away when upgrading!
[23:43] <BUGabundo> I still have it on the cli, but not in the tray
[23:43] <BUGabundo> network-manager-gnome:
[23:43] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0ubuntu1~nmt1
[23:43] <BUGabundo> network-manager:
[23:43] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0ubuntu1~nmt1
[23:43] <BUGabundo> modemmanager:
[23:43] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.2.git6.869c69e22-0ubuntu~mm1
[23:44] <BUGabundo> rebooting
[23:45] <BUGabundo> asac: any famous last words?
[23:47] <asac> no
[23:48] <asac> good luck ;)
[23:48]  * BUGabundo say bye bye BUGabundo
[23:48] <BUGabundo> bye bye
[23:56] <asac> back ;)
[23:57] <asac> seems wasnt too hard ;)
[23:57] <BUGabundo> back
[23:57] <BUGabundo> buttt old applet
[23:57] <BUGabundo> antena not signal
[23:57] <BUGabundo> :(((
[23:57] <asac> why old applet?
[23:57] <BUGabundo> also I already notice it yesterday
[23:57] <asac> old applet + new nm daemon + mm ?
[23:57] <asac> BUGabundo: how?
[23:57] <BUGabundo> no longer able to select box to allow ALL users
[23:57] <asac> BUGabundo: so seems you can connec to 3g
[23:58] <BUGabundo> yep
[23:58] <asac> BUGabundo: ok so it speaks modemmanager
[23:58] <BUGabundo> yes
[23:58] <asac> BUGabundo: if dpkg -l network-manager-gnome gives you 0.8...
[23:58] <asac> then its fine
[23:58] <BUGabundo> but it's the old antena!
[23:58] <asac> the applet title still says 0.7.0
[23:58] <asac> hmm
[23:58] <BUGabundo> I already liked the signal bars
[23:58] <asac> yeah. could be that the applet patch didnt go into trunk yet
[23:59] <asac> the 0.7.1 build is a custom build with a few patches on top
[23:59] <BUGabundo> NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0
[23:59] <BUGabundo> network-manager-gnome:
[23:59] <BUGabundo>   Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0ubuntu1~nmt1
[23:59] <BUGabundo> grrrr
[23:59] <BUGabundo> why does FF crashe TWO times on every boot?