[00:01] asac: sooo.... downgrade? [00:05] BUGabundo: well. nm from MM ppa would be the right combinatiopn [00:05] not MM from mm and NM(a) from archive ;) [00:05] anyway, feel free to downgrad [00:05] the upgrade takes a bit here [00:06] before i cannot see whats going on [00:06] ok ok [00:06] maybe its a packaging bug or something [00:10] fta: guess what just happened ;) [00:10] apt-get dist-upgrade -> X crash [00:11] now typing from console ;) [00:11] but X started again [00:11] * BUGabundo is totally lost with NM PPAs pages :(( [00:11] luckily console is quite good with kms [00:11] ;) [00:12] BUGabundo: four sources: archive == rock solid; NM ppa == latest 0.7; MM ppa == arhive NM + MM; NM-trunk == trunk NM + MM [00:12] fta: i think the "restart required notification" triggered the logout [00:12] maybe it wasnt even a crash [00:12] but a session thing [00:12] consolekit [00:12] or something [00:14] back in X11 [00:14] asac: I'm here https://edge.launchpad.net/network-manager/0.7 [00:14] dotn see the PPA [00:14] ii libnm-glib0 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework (GLib shared library) [00:14] ii libnm-util1 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework (shared library) [00:14] ii modemmanager 0.2.git5.ef0a604dc-0ubuntu1~mm1 D-Bus service for managing modems [00:14] ii network-manager 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0 network management framework daemon [00:15] ii network-manager-gnome 0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0 network management framework (GNOME frontend) [00:15] BUGabundo: dont use the PPAs for now [00:15] NM ppa has broken 3g ;) [00:15] and seems trunk as well [00:15] and since MM ppa didnt work for you either stick with archive version for now [00:15] * asac restarts NM 0.8 [00:18] BUGabundo: maybe i packaged the wrong applet ;) [00:18] let me check [00:19] let me know *before* I downgrade :!! [00:24] network-manager-gnome will be downgraded [00:24] network-manager will be downgraded [00:24] network-manager-dev will be downgrade [00:30] seems like MM is too outdated ;) [00:34] LOLOLOLOLOL [00:34] asac: you are really tired ! [00:35] yeah well. iddnt notice that dan landed refactoring branches right before i bumped a new NM trunk [00:56] ok uploaded new mm [00:56] to mm ppa [00:56] (and then copy to nm trunk) [06:37] is there a ppa with an updated thunderbird3? [06:50] jetsaredim: looks like ubuntu-mozilla-daily has it, but it's not building right. now. [06:51] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa [06:51] yea fta has it too [06:51] my only problem is also installing upgraded 3.5 as well, which I'm not sure I want [06:52] You could apt-pin Firefox? [06:53] Ah, which answers your question in #ubuntu-motu :) [06:55] why don't you want 3.5? [07:00] reed: i have 3.5 from the regular repos [07:01] i mean - i suppose i could just upgrade all of the ff-related components from fta's repo [07:01] ah, I see [07:01] not that I have anything against fta [07:01] just seems like overkill if all i want is tb-2 [07:01] *-3 === asac_ is now known as asac [11:33] bom dia ppl [11:35] I read that 3.5 final would be in the Jaunty repos yesterday.. Any word? [11:37] FFEMTcJ: Monday now [11:39] :-( thanks BUGabundo.. anything I can do to help? [11:39] asac: any news on MM ? [11:39] FFEMTcJ: no idea! asac is having trouble with secutiry tea [11:39] FFEMTcJ: you can get it from mozilla security ppa [11:39] ok [11:40] alreaedy have it that way.. I want to make it default tho.. heh [11:40] FFEMTcJ: $galternatives x-www [11:41] k [11:58] * BUGabundo $ dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/time; echo bbl [14:27] asac: fta: what is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozillateam for? [14:37] mistake [14:39] ok [14:39] fta should I upstream FF fullscreen bug? [14:40] fta micah tracked it down to one of the last 3 day [14:46] yes, please [14:46] and provide the 2 rev ids you have [14:47] rev ids!? [14:48] they are in the version [14:48] rXXXX [14:49] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2a1pre) Gecko/20090703 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Minefield/3.6a1pre ID:20090703194857 [14:49] the date? [14:50] Installed: 3.6~a1~hg20090703r29981+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 [14:50] ahhh r29981 [14:50] yep [14:51] * BUGabundo checks LP for last 3 days revid [15:06] BUGabundo, do you still have a jaunty 64 somewhere? [15:11] http://identi.ca/notice/6054720 [15:11] fta NO [15:26] howdy folks ,running Karmic here and looking for the correct settings in thunderbird "about config" to make FF3.6 the default browser ...any hints ? [15:33] 3.6 or 3.5 ? [15:36] 3.6 [15:36] hehe [15:38] cutting edge I see [15:40] hey, you recommended it [15:41] aahah [15:41] me !?!? [15:41] ahah [15:42] I just asked you if it fixed it for you [15:43] nope , still doesn't connect to any url links from t-bird [15:45] so FF3.6 is officially called minefield ? [15:47] codename [15:47] it connects from konversation and akregator [15:47] as firefox-3.6 %u , not minefield [15:48] As I understand it, Minefield is always the development version of FF. Each release gets one of the codenames though. [15:53] Pici: really? [15:53] BUGabundo: I think wikipedia has a good explanation of it... /me looks [15:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mozilla_Firefox [15:54] Pici: ^^^? [15:54] Indeed. [15:54] The precursory releases of upcoming Firefox releases are codenamed "Minefield", as this is the name of the trunk builds. [15:54] The trunk builds are Minefield. [15:55] ok [15:55] now we are clear on tha [15:55] *that [16:04] fta stupid question: where do I file 3.6 bugs?? lp on ubuntu won't allow me :( [16:07] asac: ^^^^^^^^^^^^ [16:15] fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502376 [16:15] Mozilla bug 502376 in General "firefox will not come out of full screen" [Major,Unconfirmed] [16:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/395534 I have no idea which package/project set it too [16:20] Ubuntu bug 395534 in ubuntu "firefox will not come out of full screen" [Undecided,New] [16:42] ok BUGabundo , I did the ' sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ' and chose /usr/bin/firefox-3.6 , then editd the 'about:config' in t-bird and changed it to firefox-3.6 from firefox-3.6 &u.. and now the links to the urls work ! :) [16:43] YAY [16:43] see? user error [16:43] LOL [16:45] hehe, well it's not error as much as knowing the nomenclature [19:40] hello all, can i help on that bug report any further? [21:02] fta: what does this mean? [21:02] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=502133 [21:02] Mozilla bug 502133 in Widget: Win32 "F11 no longer leaves fullscreen mode" [Normal,New] [21:02] "new build posted to try; should have builds in about 2hrs." [21:02] does it mean that your next daily build will have the fix? [21:03] no [21:04] :( [21:04] fta then what? [21:04] "posted to try" means posted to a "try" server, a builder dedicated to on-demand builds. this doesn't mean the patch is committed in the branch/trunk [21:05] the resulting build is available for testing, to confirm the fix [21:06] then it could be committed, assuming it is in an acceptable form [21:09] okay [21:09] so now what? [21:09] wait [21:09] or help by testing that build [21:09] right [21:10] how do I do that? [21:29] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Build:TryServer [21:58] fta https://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-builds/dougt@mozilla.com-1246734864/ ? [22:21] most likely, yes [22:22] ok [23:09] nice ... riots in the streets ;) [23:10] BUGabundo: if 3.6 bugs are packaging related tell us here ... otherwise open upstream bugs [23:10] dailies are recent enough to make them really useful for them ;) [23:11] yeah [23:11] that's what I did [23:11] I better close the LP task [23:11] asac: so that is what you meant on identica [23:13] yeah ;) [23:13] crazy guys [23:13] police is too massive imo [23:13] cant be that bad that they even shout at civilians here (about 3 miles away) [23:14] "go away or otherwise you will be treated as shit by us" ;) [23:14] ahah [23:14] BUGabundo: you probably rarely have riots in your city ;)? [23:15] gondomar?? [23:16] can't even recall ONE [23:16] nor in Porto [23:16] yeah ;) [23:16] we had two several years ago in Lisbon [23:16] we regularly have some in that quarter [23:16] one that lead to the fall of PM back then (that now is President lol) [23:16] iits a place with anarchist tradition ;) [23:17] but no adays its really cool and snoppy [23:17] guess thats why police is so massive [23:17] but its making it worse every year [23:17] the more police the more fun for the folks making the riots [23:17] time to move out ? [23:17] ahaha [23:17] not for me [23:17] i like it [23:17] ahaah [23:17] last time i was in a bar right where the riots were [23:17] you crazy and anarchist dude [23:18] btw [23:18] was really fun, because nobody inside actually bothered about all this fighting going on outside [23:18] MM [23:18] BUGabundo: its fixed now [23:18] todays update broke something [23:18] na [23:18] it fixed it ;) [23:18] had lots of trouble to make it work [23:18] didnt you downgrade? [23:18] BUGabundo: 3g? thought it didnt work at all before ;) [23:18] BUGabundo: or are you talking about ~network-manager PPA? [23:18] Installed: 0.2.git6.869c69e22-0ubuntu~mm1 [23:18] that one is known to have broken 3g [23:18] yeah thats the good one [23:19] asac: MM PPA [23:19] I think [23:19] that should make your huawei available in the applet at least [23:19] I downgrade last night [23:19] and this morning there was an update [23:19] BUGabundo: maybe you havent upgraded everything again? [23:19] no idea [23:19] you also need the NM and applet bits from that archive [23:19] total mess [23:19] need to put everyting in sync [23:19] just dist-upgrade with modemmanager installed [23:19] Installed: 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm2 [23:20] BUGabundo: yes. thats probably incompatible [23:20] hmm [23:20] Installed: 0.7.1-0ubuntu1.mm1 [23:20] BUGabundo: yes [23:20] well its working NOW [23:20] BUGabundo: you need 0.8 [23:20] been all afternoon [23:20] ok [23:20] always on 3g [23:20] then all fine [23:20] only was on 2g for 15 min [23:20] but it should also work on 0.8 now [23:20] ahaah [23:20] BUGabundo: do you see signal strength? [23:21] I have no other connection her [23:21] or doesnt your device support that? [23:21] *here [23:21] if it fails I need to boot a win pc LOL [23:21] just 3g? nice [23:21] if you have all the .debs on your machine [23:21] you can always recover ;) [23:21] be more optimistic [23:21] ;) [23:21] jt [23:21] if you dont want to check 0.8 thats fine [23:21] i will upload it to the main archive most likely ;) [23:21] as long as I have the packages in cache [23:21] as new default in karmic [23:21] form last night [23:21] ;) [23:22] yeah [23:22] ahahaha [23:22] without any tests?? [23:22] it broke for me yesterday [23:22] I can upgrade again [23:22] what's the 'H' symbol in the applet? [23:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAfCo7JryJo&feature=related [23:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DA1lFYxgNQ&feature=related [23:25] seems the first one is actually from a camera that one of each police fighter teams has ;) [23:25] not sure if thats leaking or good to put there ;) [23:25] BUGabundo: H means that you are on HSDPA [23:26] think thats the bets [23:26] best [23:26] its better than E and U [23:26] Edge and UMTS [23:26] asac: with that poor kuality that could have been anywher :p [23:26] BUGabundo: yes [23:26] BUGabundo: but its there ;) [23:27] BUGabundo: no official videos available ;) [23:27] right now I have all bars but no letter [23:27] there are even worse [23:27] BUGabundo: on 3g? [23:27] y [23:27] BUGabundo: maybe you are aon wifi too? [23:27] no wifi here [23:27] havent seen it [23:27] ahha [23:27] want a screenshot? [23:27] could be that your card doesnt support network technology querying [23:27] while active [23:27] some modems have only one tty port [23:27] eeh [23:27] I still have it running on cli [23:27] so you cannot ask for status while you do ppp over it [23:27] no [23:28] do want a paste of 3 h or 5000 lines [23:28] ** (modem-manager:14017): DEBUG: (ttyUSB2): <-- 'CONNECT 3600000' [23:28] nope ;) [23:28] yeah if you want [23:28] ** (modem-manager:14017): DEBUG: Got failure code 3: No carrier [23:28] BUGabundo: so you sometimes see those letters? [23:28] yes [23:28] and you see the signal strength? [23:28] or never? [23:28] yep [23:28] I see it [23:28] both [23:28] ok ... then the log would indeed be interesting [23:28] just not now [23:29] the stat port probably died [23:29] BUGabundo: and now only signal strength? [23:29] or is that also zero? [23:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/210026/ [23:29] ah? [23:30] not sure what that means [23:30] BUGabundo: are you connected right now? [23:30] is that the end of the log? [23:31] hummm lost keyboard on FF [23:31] and its not flash this time [23:31] LOL [23:31] asac: I think that's the end [23:31] nothing after it [23:31] but it seems to be very small [23:31] to be connect for so many hours [23:31] its like it stoped outputting [23:32] BUGabundo: maybe its not running? [23:32] then how am talking to you ? [23:32] what happens if you try to reconnect? [23:32] am I dreaming ? [23:32] do I have to daddy ? [23:32] :p [23:32] * BUGabundo hates reconnects almost as much as reboots [23:32] not sure if the connection will really go down if MM is down [23:33] heh [23:33] I'm afraid if I disconect not conect again [23:33] then no [23:33] i would just want you to run trunk ;) [23:33] and not 0.7.1.mm [23:33] ok ok [23:33] even though that is also good [23:33] uncommenting sources [23:33] why are you somewhere where you have no wifi? [23:34] # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu karmic [23:34] # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/modemmanager/ppa/ubuntu karmic main [23:34] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/trunk/ubuntu karmic main [23:34] yes [23:34] well I do have a linkys across the street [23:34] ah ok [23:34] a bit far from where I'm at the moment [23:34] but if I move the living room it should work [23:35] eehh now that I mentioned it, it got turned off [23:35] LOLOL [23:35] bad neighbor [23:40] can I use 3.5 from archive and 3.6 from daily ppa? [23:41] its stupid to spend all that bw on a app I don't run [23:41] asac: btw upgrading to 0.8 [23:43] asac: applet blows away when upgrading! [23:43] I still have it on the cli, but not in the tray [23:43] network-manager-gnome: [23:43] Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0ubuntu1~nmt1 [23:43] network-manager: [23:43] Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090702t164632.9c8e600-0ubuntu1~nmt1 [23:43] modemmanager: [23:43] Installed: 0.2.git6.869c69e22-0ubuntu~mm1 [23:44] rebooting [23:45] asac: any famous last words? [23:47] no [23:48] good luck ;) [23:48] * BUGabundo say bye bye BUGabundo [23:48] bye bye [23:56] back ;) [23:57] seems wasnt too hard ;) [23:57] back [23:57] buttt old applet [23:57] antena not signal [23:57] :((( [23:57] why old applet? [23:57] also I already notice it yesterday [23:57] old applet + new nm daemon + mm ? [23:57] BUGabundo: how? [23:57] no longer able to select box to allow ALL users [23:57] BUGabundo: so seems you can connec to 3g [23:58] yep [23:58] BUGabundo: ok so it speaks modemmanager [23:58] yes [23:58] BUGabundo: if dpkg -l network-manager-gnome gives you 0.8... [23:58] then its fine [23:58] but it's the old antena! [23:58] the applet title still says 0.7.0 [23:58] hmm [23:58] I already liked the signal bars [23:58] yeah. could be that the applet patch didnt go into trunk yet [23:59] the 0.7.1 build is a custom build with a few patches on top [23:59] NetworkManager Applet 0.7.0 [23:59] network-manager-gnome: [23:59] Installed: 0.8~a~git.20090701t182005.3bec17d-0ubuntu1~nmt1 [23:59] grrrr [23:59] why does FF crashe TWO times on every boot?