| Svenstaro | stgraber, yeah I actually know so much. I was merely concerned with the stance of what sounded like "Happy 4th July everywhere in the world" which seems a bit ignorant to me. | 00:25 |
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| vprm | can i install 9.04 on a windows xp with 2 disk, 1 disk is windows, 2 disk is linux?? | 02:00 |
| dgroos | Hi--just coming back after the party and fireworks. The weather was great this evening--pure blue skies--and that was different a couple of hours before that as it was a heavy downpour. Strange, weather... | 04:45 |
| dgroos | I had a friend who said where he came from on the farm there was a saying that if you think you can predict the weather you are either a newcomer or ignorant :) | 04:46 |
| dgroos | Svenstaro: I wanted to address your concern--a few hours ago-- that my reference to my impending, 'July 4th partying' was an expression of ignorant provincialism, assuming that 'everyone would know about the july 4th celebration in the US'. | 04:49 |
| dgroos | Actually, one thing that tickles me--delights me to no end--is that here we are conversing from many ends of the world, together. | 04:50 |
| dgroos | I like saying, and reading others say, 'good morning' with full knowledge that many readers are just entering night, or it is mid-afternoon for them or for me. That's cool :) | 04:52 |
| dgroos | Your comment, however, reminded me, that I need to not forget that while I'm talking in my own language, English, many people are talking, not in their language, but in mine. This shouldn't be taken for granted. | 04:53 |
| dgroos | While I do speak Spanish fluently (though not write--that's different), I'm continually shocked be so many people on the list, such as your self, who write English so flawlessly and with such depth. | 04:56 |
| dgroos | I don't take that lightly. I realize that there are some weird, shall we say bad, politics of which I generally happen to benefit from and thus can communicate with you-all and not have to speak German, French, Finish, Greek, Portuguese, etc. but my own language. | 04:58 |
| dgroos | Anyway, Svenstaro, thanks for bringing up that which is often just below the surface. And, I'm lucky and glad you speak more than German! :) | 04:59 |
| dgroos | The End :) | 04:59 |
| dgroos | stgraber: I thought you might (?) be interested in the output from when I upgraded from your launchpad--not through the GUI which gave an error, but through the CLI, which worked well. Here's the paste: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/210132. | 05:06 |
| dgroos | stgrager: Actually, I noticed that the errors I've had these last couple of days with hal sometimes included things about the ldm-server. I wonder if I didn't properly address this earlier and it led to some problems... FYI | 05:07 |
| Svenstaro | dgroos, oh hi again, I see you've taken note of my note taking :P | 05:11 |
| dgroos | :) | 05:13 |
| dgroos | Svenstaro: And thinking about time-o-day it would be around 7-8 AM? Pretty early or late? | 05:18 |
| Svenstaro | Late I guess | 05:20 |
| Svenstaro | I'm starting to think that I might have way too many projects. | 05:21 |
| Svenstaro | And thanks for your complements. | 05:22 |
| dgroos | Svenstaro: :) | 05:28 |
| stgraber | dgroos: that's the expected behavior, ldm-server replaces ldminfod so it conflicts with ldminfod to get it removed | 15:43 |
| sn9 | bug 269853 is annoying | 16:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 269853 in edubuntu-artwork "Human List Login User List is now empty after Edubuntu add-on to Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269853 | 16:18 |
| sn9 | ogra: apparently, the bug triager asked the reporter for more info, and the reporter misunderstood what was asked, leading it to be marked Invalid, but the bug is still there | 16:29 |
| dgroos | stgraber: for sure. Is, 'Try command line interface to install package when package won't install via gui" common wisdom in Linux world? | 18:27 |
| stgraber | dgroos: when using a PPA containing backports of the current development version, yes it's | 18:53 |
| stgraber | update-manager (the GUI) is supposed to do the same with the -c option but it's usually used for dist-upgrading to the next release, not dist-upgrading to the current release | 18:55 |
| Daskreec1 | Hello | 19:28 |
| Daskreec1 | what's a good Biology application for High school level studetns? | 19:28 |
| dgroos | Hi Daskreec1 | 19:39 |
| dgroos | I don't think too many teachers hang out on this list... | 19:39 |
| dgroos | Personally, I don't know of a good app. I'd suggest signing up for the edubuntu users list and asking there--Here's the address... https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users. | 19:41 |
| dgroos | good luck. | 19:41 |
| Daskreec1 | Thanks. Everything seems focused on the molecular or genetic level. I'd like something much lighter | 19:46 |
| Daskreec1 | dgroos: Also is there a wikipedia offline reader available ? | 19:59 |
| Daskreec1 | hi dgroos welcome back | 20:15 |
| dgroos | Daskreec1: I googled and found no definitive yes--sorry. | 20:16 |
| a-st | hello | 20:19 |
| a-st | Does the edubuntu cd work with ubuntu and kubuntu? | 20:20 |
| Daskreec1 | Thre was a KDE one called knowledge year or so back | 20:20 |
| a-st | So it just works with ubuntu? | 20:21 |
| Daskreec1 | a-st I think there is a edubuntu-kde-desktop package you can install | 20:23 |
| a-st | okay thx | 20:23 |
| Daskreec1 | scroll-keepr is taking up 70% of my CPU. What's that supposed to be doing? | 20:33 |
| Daskreec1 | !info edubuntu-desktop-kde | a-st | 20:36 |
| ubottu | a-st: edubuntu-desktop-kde (source: edubuntu-meta): educational desktop for Kubuntu. In component main, is optional. Version 1.70 (jaunty), package size 18 kB, installed size 48 kB | 20:36 |
| a-st | oky thx trying it in a vbox ;) | 20:37 |
| Daskreec1 | ok :) | 20:38 |
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| UbuntuNewb | Hello! | 23:02 |
| sn9 | hi | 23:02 |
| UbuntuNewb | I have a question about setting up a FTP server on my Unbuntu jaunty... | 23:02 |
| sn9 | you sure ftp is what you want? | 23:02 |
| UbuntuNewb | Is it possible I can ask that question here? | 23:02 |
| UbuntuNewb | no, no necessarily, I just want read/write access remotely to my hdd | 23:03 |
| UbuntuNewb | Is there a reason not to choose FTP? | 23:04 |
| sn9 | because it's not meant for that? | 23:04 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok, what would you recommend then? | 23:05 |
| UbuntuNewb | I'm quite new to ubuntu | 23:05 |
| sn9 | ubuntu has an integrated sftp client | 23:06 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok, would you recommend it? | 23:06 |
| sn9 | yes, since on the server side, setup is dead-simple | 23:06 |
| UbuntuNewb | great | 23:06 |
| UbuntuNewb | what's it called? | 23:07 |
| sn9 | all you do is install a single package on the server, and everything is ready | 23:07 |
| sn9 | the package is openssh-server | 23:07 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok great.. | 23:07 |
| sn9 | you don't even need it on the client, just the server | 23:07 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok, and I can app it with synaptic? | 23:08 |
| sn9 | on the client, Places -> Connect to Server... -> Service type: SSH | 23:08 |
| sn9 | yes, install that pkg with synaptic | 23:09 |
| sn9 | on the server only | 23:09 |
| UbuntuNewb | cool... | 23:09 |
| UbuntuNewb | my only issue is that the client will be running on windows machines... | 23:10 |
| sn9 | ohhhhh | 23:10 |
| UbuntuNewb | do you know a good ssh client for xp for instance? | 23:10 |
| sn9 | then you want to use samba instead | 23:10 |
| UbuntuNewb | aha, ok... | 23:10 |
| sn9 | unless it will be over the public internet, which is a bad use of samba | 23:11 |
| UbuntuNewb | it it to be used over the Internet | 23:11 |
| UbuntuNewb | sadlyy.. I'm going abroad and need acess to my files | 23:11 |
| sn9 | sftp is ok, then | 23:11 |
| UbuntuNewb | sftp, is it SSL or why is it called sftp? | 23:12 |
| sn9 | only sftp client i really know for windows is putty | 23:12 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok, will suffice | 23:12 |
| sn9 | unless you have access to KDE for windows, which has one called FiSH | 23:13 |
| alkisg | UbuntuNewb: for file copying over sftp, filezilla & winscp | 23:13 |
| alkisg | (windows) | 23:13 |
| sn9 | ok, those will likely work better than putty | 23:14 |
| alkisg | Yeah, putty is for remote ssh session mainly :) | 23:14 |
| UbuntuNewb | alkisg, thnx | 23:14 |
| sn9 | try filezilla first | 23:14 |
| UbuntuNewb | will do. | 23:14 |
| UbuntuNewb | so How do I setup the server? | 23:14 |
| alkisg | sudo apt-get install openssh-server | 23:15 |
| sn9 | install openssh-server and just go | 23:15 |
| UbuntuNewb | okidoki | 23:15 |
| UbuntuNewb | my machine is really slow, I'm running it off a Atom 1200 | 23:17 |
| sn9 | better that than a celeron | 23:18 |
| UbuntuNewb | so, I think it's installing now... | 23:19 |
| UbuntuNewb | also I'm running the whole setup off of a compactflash card | 23:19 |
| UbuntuNewb | So, it's dead silent but a little slow... | 23:20 |
| alkisg | What, no cpu fan? | 23:23 |
| UbuntuNewb | a small cpu fan, low rpm... | 23:23 |
| sn9 | make sure you have no swap partition | 23:23 |
| UbuntuNewb | and a 12 Cm fan in the chasis, very low rpm | 23:23 |
| UbuntuNewb | yes, I pulled down the "swapiness" to 5 I think | 23:24 |
| sn9 | turn it off altogether | 23:24 |
| UbuntuNewb | could do, I just got recommendations to leasve it on 5... dunno why | 23:25 |
| UbuntuNewb | It swaps 1 Mbyte at a maximum | 23:25 |
| sn9 | the wiki page on ubuntu on the aspireone has better suggestions than that | 23:25 |
| UbuntuNewb | how do I turn off the swap+ | 23:26 |
| sn9 | sudo swapoff -a | 23:27 |
| UbuntuNewb | I see now that it exceeds the swapsize I previously mentioned, it swaps ~200MB | 23:27 |
| sn9 | but that's only until the next boot | 23:27 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok. | 23:28 |
| UbuntuNewb | openssh still installing | 23:28 |
| UbuntuNewb | it's not the fastest machine in the world. =) | 23:29 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok, done. | 23:29 |
| UbuntuNewb | is there a GUI to setup the ssh? | 23:30 |
| UbuntuNewb | the ssh server. | 23:30 |
| alkisg | No need to setup anything, really... | 23:30 |
| alkisg | You just put your username/password to filezilla, select sftp and copy the files | 23:30 |
| UbuntuNewb | but I have to set my user/password into the server somewhere don't I? | 23:31 |
| alkisg | It uses your account info | 23:31 |
| sn9 | well, for remote access, don't forget to forward port 22 | 23:31 |
| UbuntuNewb | aha. Cool! | 23:31 |
| UbuntuNewb | sweet | 23:31 |
| UbuntuNewb | Do I need a strong password? I guess I do... | 23:32 |
| UbuntuNewb | thank you guys.. It's not really working right now... but that's probably due to my lousy router | 23:37 |
| alkisg | Yeah, you need the port forwarding that sn9 said | 23:38 |
| UbuntuNewb | I've forwarded the port 22 to my local machine | 23:38 |
| UbuntuNewb | still nothing. | 23:38 |
| alkisg | And sometimes the ISP blocks the ports < 1024, so you have to port forward from 8022 to 22 or something | 23:38 |
| UbuntuNewb | I had the same issue with the ftp server I tried earlier | 23:38 |
| UbuntuNewb | ah ok... | 23:38 |
| UbuntuNewb | trying that | 23:39 |
| UbuntuNewb | hmmm.. nope. | 23:39 |
| UbuntuNewb | I get a ping through with reply | 23:39 |
| UbuntuNewb | is it possible that the local firewall (firestarter) is blocking it? | 23:40 |
| sn9 | yes | 23:40 |
| UbuntuNewb | ok... :s | 23:41 |
| UbuntuNewb | *stopping firewall | 23:41 |
| UbuntuNewb | still nothing... | 23:41 |
| UbuntuNewb | timeout is all I get on the client | 23:41 |
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