[00:25] stgraber, yeah I actually know so much. I was merely concerned with the stance of what sounded like "Happy 4th July everywhere in the world" which seems a bit ignorant to me. [02:00] can i install 9.04 on a windows xp with 2 disk, 1 disk is windows, 2 disk is linux?? [04:45] Hi--just coming back after the party and fireworks. The weather was great this evening--pure blue skies--and that was different a couple of hours before that as it was a heavy downpour. Strange, weather... [04:46] I had a friend who said where he came from on the farm there was a saying that if you think you can predict the weather you are either a newcomer or ignorant :) [04:49] Svenstaro: I wanted to address your concern--a few hours ago-- that my reference to my impending, 'July 4th partying' was an expression of ignorant provincialism, assuming that 'everyone would know about the july 4th celebration in the US'. [04:50] Actually, one thing that tickles me--delights me to no end--is that here we are conversing from many ends of the world, together. [04:52] I like saying, and reading others say, 'good morning' with full knowledge that many readers are just entering night, or it is mid-afternoon for them or for me. That's cool :) [04:53] Your comment, however, reminded me, that I need to not forget that while I'm talking in my own language, English, many people are talking, not in their language, but in mine. This shouldn't be taken for granted. [04:56] While I do speak Spanish fluently (though not write--that's different), I'm continually shocked be so many people on the list, such as your self, who write English so flawlessly and with such depth. [04:58] I don't take that lightly. I realize that there are some weird, shall we say bad, politics of which I generally happen to benefit from and thus can communicate with you-all and not have to speak German, French, Finish, Greek, Portuguese, etc. but my own language. [04:59] Anyway, Svenstaro, thanks for bringing up that which is often just below the surface. And, I'm lucky and glad you speak more than German! :) [04:59] The End :) [05:06] stgraber: I thought you might (?) be interested in the output from when I upgraded from your launchpad--not through the GUI which gave an error, but through the CLI, which worked well. Here's the paste: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/210132. [05:07] stgrager: Actually, I noticed that the errors I've had these last couple of days with hal sometimes included things about the ldm-server. I wonder if I didn't properly address this earlier and it led to some problems... FYI [05:11] dgroos, oh hi again, I see you've taken note of my note taking :P [05:13] :) [05:18] Svenstaro: And thinking about time-o-day it would be around 7-8 AM? Pretty early or late? [05:20] Late I guess [05:21] I'm starting to think that I might have way too many projects. [05:22] And thanks for your complements. [05:28] Svenstaro: :) [15:43] dgroos: that's the expected behavior, ldm-server replaces ldminfod so it conflicts with ldminfod to get it removed [16:18] bug 269853 is annoying [16:18] Launchpad bug 269853 in edubuntu-artwork "Human List Login User List is now empty after Edubuntu add-on to Ubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/269853 [16:29] ogra: apparently, the bug triager asked the reporter for more info, and the reporter misunderstood what was asked, leading it to be marked Invalid, but the bug is still there [18:27] stgraber: for sure. Is, 'Try command line interface to install package when package won't install via gui" common wisdom in Linux world? [18:53] dgroos: when using a PPA containing backports of the current development version, yes it's [18:55] update-manager (the GUI) is supposed to do the same with the -c option but it's usually used for dist-upgrading to the next release, not dist-upgrading to the current release [19:28] Hello [19:28] what's a good Biology application for High school level studetns? [19:39] Hi Daskreec1 [19:39] I don't think too many teachers hang out on this list... [19:41] Personally, I don't know of a good app. I'd suggest signing up for the edubuntu users list and asking there--Here's the address... https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users. [19:41] good luck. [19:46] Thanks. Everything seems focused on the molecular or genetic level. I'd like something much lighter [19:59] dgroos: Also is there a wikipedia offline reader available ? [20:15] hi dgroos welcome back [20:16] Daskreec1: I googled and found no definitive yes--sorry. [20:19] hello [20:20] Does the edubuntu cd work with ubuntu and kubuntu? [20:20] Thre was a KDE one called knowledge year or so back [20:21] So it just works with ubuntu? [20:23] a-st I think there is a edubuntu-kde-desktop package you can install [20:23] okay thx [20:33] scroll-keepr is taking up 70% of my CPU. What's that supposed to be doing? [20:36] !info edubuntu-desktop-kde | a-st [20:36] a-st: edubuntu-desktop-kde (source: edubuntu-meta): educational desktop for Kubuntu. In component main, is optional. Version 1.70 (jaunty), package size 18 kB, installed size 48 kB [20:37] oky thx trying it in a vbox ;) [20:38] ok :) === vorian is now known as flirty === flirty is now known as vorian [23:02] Hello! [23:02] hi [23:02] I have a question about setting up a FTP server on my Unbuntu jaunty... [23:02] you sure ftp is what you want? [23:02] Is it possible I can ask that question here? [23:03] no, no necessarily, I just want read/write access remotely to my hdd [23:04] Is there a reason not to choose FTP? [23:04] because it's not meant for that? [23:05] ok, what would you recommend then? [23:05] I'm quite new to ubuntu [23:06] ubuntu has an integrated sftp client [23:06] ok, would you recommend it? [23:06] yes, since on the server side, setup is dead-simple [23:06] great [23:07] what's it called? [23:07] all you do is install a single package on the server, and everything is ready [23:07] the package is openssh-server [23:07] ok great.. [23:07] you don't even need it on the client, just the server [23:08] ok, and I can app it with synaptic? [23:08] on the client, Places -> Connect to Server... -> Service type: SSH [23:09] yes, install that pkg with synaptic [23:09] on the server only [23:09] cool... [23:10] my only issue is that the client will be running on windows machines... [23:10] ohhhhh [23:10] do you know a good ssh client for xp for instance? [23:10] then you want to use samba instead [23:10] aha, ok... [23:11] unless it will be over the public internet, which is a bad use of samba [23:11] it it to be used over the Internet [23:11] sadlyy.. I'm going abroad and need acess to my files [23:11] sftp is ok, then [23:12] sftp, is it SSL or why is it called sftp? [23:12] only sftp client i really know for windows is putty [23:12] ok, will suffice [23:13] unless you have access to KDE for windows, which has one called FiSH [23:13] UbuntuNewb: for file copying over sftp, filezilla & winscp [23:13] (windows) [23:14] ok, those will likely work better than putty [23:14] Yeah, putty is for remote ssh session mainly :) [23:14] alkisg, thnx [23:14] try filezilla first [23:14] will do. [23:14] so How do I setup the server? [23:15] sudo apt-get install openssh-server [23:15] install openssh-server and just go [23:15] okidoki [23:17] my machine is really slow, I'm running it off a Atom 1200 [23:18] better that than a celeron [23:19] so, I think it's installing now... [23:19] also I'm running the whole setup off of a compactflash card [23:20] So, it's dead silent but a little slow... [23:23] What, no cpu fan? [23:23] a small cpu fan, low rpm... [23:23] make sure you have no swap partition [23:23] and a 12 Cm fan in the chasis, very low rpm [23:24] yes, I pulled down the "swapiness" to 5 I think [23:24] turn it off altogether [23:25] could do, I just got recommendations to leasve it on 5... dunno why [23:25] It swaps 1 Mbyte at a maximum [23:25] the wiki page on ubuntu on the aspireone has better suggestions than that [23:26] how do I turn off the swap+ [23:27] sudo swapoff -a [23:27] I see now that it exceeds the swapsize I previously mentioned, it swaps ~200MB [23:27] but that's only until the next boot [23:28] ok. [23:28] openssh still installing [23:29] it's not the fastest machine in the world. =) [23:29] ok, done. [23:30] is there a GUI to setup the ssh? [23:30] the ssh server. [23:30] No need to setup anything, really... [23:30] You just put your username/password to filezilla, select sftp and copy the files [23:31] but I have to set my user/password into the server somewhere don't I? [23:31] It uses your account info [23:31] well, for remote access, don't forget to forward port 22 [23:31] aha. Cool! [23:31] sweet [23:32] Do I need a strong password? I guess I do... [23:37] thank you guys.. It's not really working right now... but that's probably due to my lousy router [23:38] Yeah, you need the port forwarding that sn9 said [23:38] I've forwarded the port 22 to my local machine [23:38] still nothing. [23:38] And sometimes the ISP blocks the ports < 1024, so you have to port forward from 8022 to 22 or something [23:38] I had the same issue with the ftp server I tried earlier [23:38] ah ok... [23:39] trying that [23:39] hmmm.. nope. [23:39] I get a ping through with reply [23:40] is it possible that the local firewall (firestarter) is blocking it? [23:40] yes [23:41] ok... :s [23:41] *stopping firewall [23:41] still nothing... [23:41] timeout is all I get on the client