[00:15] <senorpedro> hi folks
[00:15] <senorpedro> how can i install new mouse themes in kubuntu 9.04?
[01:03] <alarm> hello , which would be a good application to be able to start and stop services ?
[01:06] <cjae> ok since separate desktops is impossible with kde 4.2.4 is it possible with kde 4.3 or is possible to have two system trays with twinview (nvidia)
[01:08] <cjae> actually I just need a volume control on my tv (second twinview screen) that controls the system volume
[01:09] <Monika|K> you could have two bars and add the systray widget to both
[01:14] <cjae> !kooka
[01:14] <cjae> !info kooka
[01:14] <cjae> %^$&%*(*&
[01:15] <cjae> !scanner
[01:15] <cjae> !OCR
[01:47] <ytoox> I installed tangerine music sharing and banshee but people onmy network can't access the music folder
[01:48] <ytoox> can you help me?
[02:02] <harjot_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203766
[02:05] <vprm> can i install 9.04 on a windows xp with 2 disk, 1 disk is windows, 2 disk is linux??
[02:19] <cjae> is there a way to install gnome without all the gnome apps in your menu?
[02:38] <Ankaku> hello
[02:39] <rgarcia> Hi all, does anybody know how do I change the period from my keyboard at number's place to period, because when i push it appears coma
[02:39] <Ankaku> hmm
[02:40] <Ankaku> did u check your keyboard language?
[02:40] <rgarcia> yeap..
[02:40] <rgarcia> mine is ABNT 2
[02:40] <Ankaku> what are the min. specs for kubuntu?
[02:41] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:41] <rgarcia> sorry but what is min.?
[02:41] <Ankaku> minimum
[02:42] <Ankaku> o and thanks bazhang
[02:45] <Ankaku> How many glitches do you guys normally run into with Kubuntu?
[02:48] <faileas> not as many as i used to, but my box used to freeze up once a week at one point
[02:52] <kubuntuuser> If I have an ntfs drive attached, how can I go about looking at the files on it?
[02:53] <phh> if ntfs-3g is installed (which is done by default i think), you just have to click on it in the device browser
[02:53] <kubuntuuser> when I try to access /dev/<blah> it says unknown file type
[02:54] <kubuntuuser> device browser being the blue monitor icon with the cd poking out of the top in the tray?
[02:56] <phh> yep this one
[02:56] <phh> check if ntfs-3g is installed
[02:57] <kubuntuuser> yeah, and notifier is still empty
[02:57] <kubuntuuser> it's a pata drive that was connected properly when powered on
[02:58] <phh> pata, connected when powered on ?
[02:58] <kubuntuuser> (since I just changed the boot order so I know the ntfs drive is attached/works properly)
[02:58] <phh> pata has to be connected when power is off
[02:58] <phh> but i guess it's what you did
[02:59] <phh> you mean the bios find the hard drive ?
[02:59] <kubuntuuser> yeah, I mean I did it all when off
[03:00] <phh> oh but, it's an internal drive, it's normal it isn't in the notifier /o\
[03:01] <phh> kubuntuuser: how do you try to access to it ?
[03:01] <kubuntuuser> The only thing I changed was the boot order in bios, and when I look through the /dev/sd* list the file icons for the sd*'s are ?'s
[03:02] <phh> well, you just go in /dev ?
[03:02] <kubuntuuser> I'm trying to navigate to it like it was unmounted
[03:02] <phh> ok, you're doing it wrong then
[03:03] <phh> just don't remember how to do it correctly
[03:03] <phh> kubuntuuser: you use dolphin ?
[03:03] <kubuntuuser> but I can't figure out which device it is labelled as to mount it, (I think I got that terminology right?)
[03:04] <kubuntuuser> yes, in dolphin
[03:04] <phh> in the left panel, you have the list of available disks, is there any with the ntfs type ?
[03:06] <kubuntuuser> I only have folder tree on left, and no way top see any disks from there
[03:07] <phh> folder tree ? hu
[03:08] <phh> there you should have the list of all available partitions...
[03:09] <kubuntuuser> I have /bin /boot /cdrom /dev /etc etc...
[03:09] <phh> ?!?
[03:10] <phh> you should have home, network, root, trash, and others partitions
[03:10] <kubuntuuser> stop worrying
[03:10] <kubuntuuser> It was only under "places"
[03:10] <kubuntuuser> I had that turned off
[03:10] <phh> ...
[03:12] <kubuntuuser> if that seems to be the only use for that panel, you can understand why I had it turned off
[03:12] <kubuntuuser> see the sily thing is that now I have entered the pass for the ntfs drive, NOW it shows up in the folder view
[03:29] <kubuntuuser> yeah sorry phh, thanks for giving me the idea to check every part of dolphin though :D
[03:37] <alid> I've just removed firefox 3.0 and installed firefox 3.5. When I run 'firefox' in the terminal it still tries to run firefox 3.0 and as it cannot find it on my computer it asks me to install firefox 3.0. How can I change it so that when I run firefox in terminal, firefox 3.5 pops up?
[03:45] <faileas> alid: what did you install it through?
[03:46] <faileas> IIRC the firefox nightlys have a different name, and the universe firefox 3.5 i haven't tried since it tries to install a crapload of additional packages
[03:46] <alid> faileas: KPackageKit
[03:50] <alid> faileas: I can run firefox 3.5 now by giving the terminal the absolute address where it is installed in. Though, I just want firefox 3.5 pops up whenever I simply run 'firefox' in the terminal. It should not be a big deal, I don't have any idea about it though.
[03:58] <rgarcia> Hello all, does anybody know how do I solve the bug from the period of numpad? on jaunty
[04:00] <rgarcia> anyody?
[04:02] <faileas> alid: symlinks?
[04:05] <alid> faileas: Maybe. I don't actually know what it is. Let me google it a bit.
[05:02] <kubuntunooob> hey
[05:03] <kubuntunooob> I am unable to correctly install nvidia drivers
[05:04] <kubuntunooob> test
[05:08] <ngrokbron> k ondaaa
[05:38] <Adola> Hi!  I need help with NFS, I can't copy more than a few files from the server to the client, everything just stops, and I have to completely restart the machine untill I have network usablility again.
[05:43] <deusr> hi
[05:44] <deusr> anyone know how to remove NO_PUBKEY?
[05:45] <deusr> add 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main'
[05:46] <deusr> hello!!!!!!!!!
[05:46] <deusr> someone living in the channel?
[05:49] <exatrive> lol
[05:49] <mot> shit im drunk
[05:49] <mot> happy 4th of july all [americans]
[05:49] <exatrive> me but have no clue what your talking about
[05:49] <exatrive> 4th is over in 10 min here
[05:49] <mot> eh it's actually 12.50 here
[05:50] <mot> but who cares
[05:50] <mot> just sayin' happy holiday
[05:50] <exatrive> lol
[05:50] <mot> my bad i started drinking at 4
[05:50] <mot> i'm EST
[05:50] <exatrive> yeah ok
[05:50] <mot> so, in my mind it's still the same holiday 'till i go to bed
[05:50] <exatrive> central here
[05:50] <mot> ah
[05:50] <Adola> It's so much more lax here than in #ubuntu
[05:51] <mot> some of the *NIX channels can be extremely hardcore
[05:51] <exatrive> lol yeah always is
[05:51] <mot> #debian is full of pompous d-bags
[05:51] <mot> *shrugs*
[05:51] <mot> that's freenode for ya
[05:51] <Adola> Anyone know about NFS?
[05:51] <exatrive> kubuntu is really sad state atm for me
[05:51] <exatrive> hardware accelration is really lacking
[05:52] <exatrive> network file share
[05:53] <exatrive> saba or something
[05:53] <exatrive> long time since I set it up
[05:55] <exatrive> samba*
[05:55] <Adola> I need help with NFS, I can't copy more than a few files from the server to the client, everything just stops, and I have to completely restart the machine untill I have network usablility again.
[06:00] <exatrive> looking
[06:01] <exatrive> checking launchpad
[06:05] <hibridfoxx> hi
[06:05] <exatrive> have you tried copying the file via scp
[06:05] <hibridfoxx> what??
[06:09] <exatrive> scp examplefile yourusername@yourserver:/home/yourusername/
[06:10] <exatrive> basicly copy in the command line to make sure its not a problem with the gui
[06:18] <shannon__> anyone there?
[07:08] <Guest90396> ?
[07:17] <sluo-bj> Say word here?
[08:35] <peabody> There's an error in the packaging in the repository for firefox 3.5... it says it requires all the GTK libraries, but if you download teh linux version from firefox's website, it's precompiled binary runs fine without any GTK libraries installed
[08:37] <bvalek2> peabody: the firefox website version has probably all those libraries built in
[08:38] <peabody> uhh.. possibly.. but it's got external libraries compiled with it and none of them are gtk libraries
[08:40] <peabody> meh it's a 3k binary, I don't think they compiled the gtk libraries into it
[08:41] <peabody> yeah, I just went through all the directorys and there's no gtk anything in here
[08:41] <peabody> I was amazed that firefox 3.0 was nogtk and then 3.5 went to gtk
[08:41] <morteza_k> hi every one.can anyone help me with my wireless problem?i connect to the network but i cannt ping the modem!!!!
[08:42] <peabody> but looking at teh binary distribution, it's not gtk but the pacakge on the repository thinks it is
[09:29] <ryan___> what is that package with flash/java and shockwave called
[09:29] <peabody> OK I've found two problems in the binary packages on the repository
[09:30] <peabody> 1st: firefox 3.5 says that all the gtk libraries are dependant and they are not
[09:30] <giuseppe_> ciao
[09:31] <peabody> 2nd: Running flash in full screen causes everyone using nvidia binary drivers to crash, and there are several workarounds in editing script files and disabling hardware acceleration, etc. found on the forums. I tried to open the nvidia xorg control panel applet and it said xorg was not correctly configured to use the nvidia drivers, so I dropped to tty1, reran nvidia-xconfig and now it works fine
[09:32] <peabody> so the jockey install for nvidia drivers is not correctly configuring xorg to use the driver
[10:13] <senorpedro> hi folks
[10:13] <senorpedro> i'm using konqueror in 9.04, but the left bar is completely messed up. how can i restore it?
[10:52] <ederico> Hello, I just performed the latest upgrade to my Kubuntu (I update regularly whenever updates are available), I notice a little yet annoying problem, running applications don't show in my menu bar at the bottom of the screen, this only happened after the latest upgrade
[10:58] <Scorpiion> anyone in here who knows where to find an horde demo? (the groupware horde)
[11:26] <andrey> where am I?
[11:36] <lukas> andrey: hard to say, but this is kubuntu channel
[11:45] <mats> How do I clear the KDE session? The same programs always pop up when I log in. I even set the start mode to "empty session", but that does not help. The same windows pop up. 4.3 RC1.
[11:48] <Peace-> mats: rename $HOME/.kde into $HOME/.kdeoldstuff
[11:50] <mats> Peace: No. I've done that too often Too much work. There must be a smaller fix to try.
[11:52] <mats> Where is the session info (open programs on logout) stored?
[12:05] <[-Haza-]> Morning folks. Would i be crazy in thinking i could gain access to files on a NTFS partition from my Kubuntu... easily?
[12:05] <[-Haza-]> I have one HD with XP on one partition and Kubuntu 9 on the other
[12:09] <tsimpson> !ntfs | [-Haza-]
[12:10] <[-Haza-]> tsimpson: Thank you
[12:11] <tinason> what does the file ~/screen-configurations.xml do?
[12:19] <[-Haza-]> tinason: I have no idea.... i just deleted mine! :D
[12:19] <[-Haza-]> Everything *seems* okay
[12:20] <tsimpson> tinason: you can safely delete it, it's not used after the install
[12:20] <tinason> ok thanks guys!
[12:40] <orion_> help ...Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme)
[12:41] <orion_> help ...Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme)
[12:46] <cga> hi all, i cannot mount my crypt-luks partition. it works on other pc with ubuntu but not here in laptop kubuntu. i can open the luks device with password but it cannot mount the partition once opened
[12:46] <cga> any idea? the error says no /dev/md-0 found
[12:50]  * cga bbl - need lunch
[13:10] <lucypher> Hi how do I set a style for KDE3 apps in kde4???
[13:10] <lucypher> I've built and installed QtCurve for KDE3 but I can't undestand how to use it
[13:16] <[-Haza-]> Hi folks i always seem to have this trouble with a new installation on Kubuntu and java 1.6. Setting the JAVA_HOME variable
[13:17] <[-Haza-]> I usually set this variable in my .bashrc file
[13:17] <[-Haza-]> but for some reason i cannot find my JAVA_HOME directory
[13:17] <[-Haza-]> if i do a whereis java or (looking for a java executable) javac i get the directories /usr/bin
[13:20] <[-Haza-]> brb
[13:21] <lucypher> @[-Haza-] .: ls /usr/lib/jvm
[13:30] <geronimo89_> Hello. I am experiencing a bug in Kalendar. There are no information shown when I select day or week-view in kalendar, only when I select month
[13:30] <geronimo89_> kontact I mean
[13:30] <crazy_bus> I know it's silly, but I can't find the search tool in kubuntu.  Can anyone help me find it?
[13:34] <faileas>  /join #ubuntu-sg
[13:42] <lukas> Hi, I have problems with installation of nvidia drivers on fresh installation both the GUI way or module-assistant. Could anyone help?
[13:44] <lukas> I am fairly sure that I have some repository missing, but I am not sure where to get it
[13:46] <lukas> It seems to me that this issue is not covered in ubuntu guide nor kubuntu documentation
[13:47] <lukas> btw, I have the same issue second time I install kubuntu
[13:56] <orion__> help ...Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme)
[13:56] <orion__> help ...Could not install Air  final update (plasma theme)
[14:06] <lukas> orion__: oh, could you say more?
[14:06] <lukas> btw, my problem is solved, it seems that generating xorg.config helps
[14:07] <lukas> orion__: say what precisely you did and what was the OS reaction
[14:07] <amgarchIn9> I have a self-assembled *.deb file how to properly install it with aptitude?
[14:14] <lukas> amgarchIn9: dpkg -i <package.deb>
[14:15] <lukas> amgarchIn9: it is usually not handled by aptitude, which is just one layer over dpkg
[14:15] <lukas> amgarchIn9: dpkg is used for packag handling, but it does not download packages, dependencies ..., aptitude resp apt-get do this
[14:26] <amgarchIn9> lukas: happens to work also with aptitude, suggests conflicts resolution even, but not always
[14:26] <amgarchIn9> lukas: an how do I wipe out also the remaining config files after "aptitude remove"?
[14:30] <amgarchIn9> nevermind, dpkg --purge does that
[14:31] <cabrey> When I press alt-f2, krunner doesn't show up, but it used to and I'm not sure what I did. Can anyone tell me how to get it back?
[14:39] <p-f> is there an option that makes aptitude ask more questions before doing things automatically? I have apparently been running apache2 for two weeks without even having been asked to add it to the list of daemons that automatically start on boot.
[14:40] <lukas> amgarchIn9: aptitude purge <package>
[14:40] <lukas> amgarchIn9: or press _ in text graphic mode
[14:41] <p-f> aptitude --dont-launch-services-unless-I-ask-you-to?
[14:42] <lukas> cabrey: no idea, but I would start with ~/.xsession-errors
[14:42] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:42] <lukas> p-f: I do not know, but aptitude has great guide
[14:43] <p-f> lukas, it's a bit strange that the default behaviour would be to automagically launch every single daemon it installs, though
[14:44] <erikja> !bluetooth
[14:47] <lukas> p-f: well, I was used to control all services manually with some update-rc ... scripts
[15:09] <Abdourakhmane> join #sabily
[15:09] <mib486> was on youtube and was forced to install the latest flash version, after downloading it ive got this message "A later version is available in a software channel" what does it mean? where am i supposed to find it?
[15:10] <ign0ramus> mib486, "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[15:12] <mib486> thanks
[15:19] <prxq> hi. is there a way to disable the window-bouncing when changing desktops?
[15:19] <Moult> i have a fresh kubuntu install - with no internet connection - how do i upgrade to the latest kernel on it?
[15:21] <Dragnslcr> prxq- probably somewhere in System Settings -> Desktop
[15:23] <prxq> Dragnslcr: duh. You are right. I looked for it everywhere but not there. thx
[15:24] <Dragnslcr> No problem
[15:27] <Kitply> hello all, i was trying to type in a Tamil (indian language) font in kword. But i was not able to see the tamil script in kword, it still shows in english. How can i rectify this??
[15:33] <Kitply> hi all, does kubuntu live dvd provide a default GUI based partition manager like Gparted for gnome distros?
[15:33] <faileas> yes
[15:34] <faileas> can't remember what, but there's one
[15:35] <bazhang> !info partitionmanager
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Kitply, but if you have gparted use that to set up yopur partitionds first then when installing kubuntu , just use the manual partitoner setup ...it's easier and faster
[15:37] <Kitply> BluesKaj: oh ok . i do have ubuntu live cd, which offers partition manager, also i have a kubuntu. Just was curious to know if kde version offered any such tool :)
[15:37] <BluesKaj> gparted live cd is a useful tool , Kitply
[15:38] <Kitply> BluesKaj: Oh OK :)
[15:40]  * faileas thinks its either gparted or qtparted
[15:40] <bazhang> kde is partitionmanager
[15:42] <Dragnslcr> qtparted isn't maintained anymore
[15:47] <shivek> hi cn anyone help
[15:47] <shivek> how to execute python script
[15:57] <Moult> is there a livecd version of kubuntu to install kubuntu with a newer kernel?
[15:59] <bazhang> Moult, newer than Jaunty?
[15:59] <Moult> bazhang: yes
[16:00] <bazhang> Moult, in karmic, #ubuntu+1 for that
[16:02] <Moult> bazhang: ok thanks
[16:02] <BluesKaj> Moult, karmic is experimental
[16:02] <bazhang> early alpha Moult
[16:03] <Moult> BluesKaj: well, the alternative is somebody helping me upgrade to the latest kernel on an existing fresh kubuntu jaunty install
[16:03] <BluesKaj> Moult, err , why ?
[16:04] <Moult> BluesKaj: kernel version that comes with kubuntu doesn't recognise my eth :) no internet, which is pretty important
[16:04] <Moult> so yeah um need to update kernel...without an internet connection - i can transfer over via usb though
[16:04] <BluesKaj> Moult, I'm running karmic and it's not real stable , lots of crashes
[16:04] <ikonia> Moult: I strongly advise against updating the kernel
[16:05] <Moult> ikonia: there is no other alternative - there are no drivers for my hardware otherwise
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Moult, install Wicd, it replaces the flaky widget-network-manager
[16:05] <ikonia> Moult: what is the card /
[16:05] <ikonia> ?
[16:06] <Moult> ikonia: ethernet controller attansic technology corp
[16:07] <Moult> ikonia: the opensuse guys say the driver i need is atl1c - apparently not on the kernel i currently run kubuntu on
[16:10] <Moult> BluesKaj: oh and i don't think it's the flakiness of widget-network-manager that's causing it
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Moult, that's a shame , I don't see that ethernet driver in adept or synaptic
[16:12] <BluesKaj> and I'm running Karmic
[16:12] <bazhang> should be in the kernel (jaunty)
[16:20] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper | Moult
[16:21] <BluesKaj> oops
[16:21] <Moult> BluesKaj: not wirelesss
[16:21] <BluesKaj> yeah sorry
[16:25] <stefano> ciao
[16:25] <stefano> !list
[16:26] <BluesKaj> Moult, lspci | grep Ethernet , just to be sure
[16:27] <Moult> BluesKaj: yep that's the only line
[16:29] <BluesKaj> and what's the output , Moult ?
[16:31] <Moult> BluesKaj: ethernet controller: attansic technology corp device 1063 rev c0
[16:35] <BluesKaj> Moult, looks like a tough one to fix ...not much documentation out there
[16:35] <Moult> BluesKaj: aye - i think kernel update is my best bet
[16:37] <BluesKaj> well, if the kernel support exists , but I don't see it Karmic either, but I' mnot running the latest kernel
[16:37] <Moult> BluesKaj: which version are you running?
[16:39] <Moult> BluesKaj: brb
[16:47] <darthanubis> anyone familiar with .nuv files and using vlc to play them, but that event then causes no other sound ie. amarok, to play after that, unless you relogin?
[16:47] <fkm> Hi there. I need some ideas for a substitute for the old Adept. What do you use? KPackage/-Kit, Synaptic, something else?
[16:48] <darthanubis> fkm: me too, I love synaptic, but am trying to avaoid gtk packages
[16:48] <darthanubis> but it is by far, synaptic the best
[16:48] <darthanubis> so right now I'm using kpackigit
[16:48] <darthanubis> (sp)
[16:49] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1023158 darthanubis
[16:49] <darthanubis> bazhang: great link!
[16:49] <darthanubis> thx
[16:49] <bazhang> yw :)
[16:50] <darthanubis> trying to make konversation look more like xchat
[16:50] <darthanubis> with a black background instead of white
[16:50] <darthanubis> I'm revisitng KDE after many years
[16:51] <darthanubis> growing very found if kde4
[16:51] <darthanubis> fond
[16:51] <darthanubis> of
[16:51] <darthanubis> sheesh
[16:51] <Dragnslcr> darthanubis- Configure -> Colors
[16:51] <Dragnslcr> You can set the background color there
[16:51] <Dragnslcr> Kinda wish it just followed the KDE theme color, but whatever
[16:53] <darthanubis> Dragnslcr: beautiful!
[16:53] <darthanubis> thx
[16:53] <fkm> darthanubis: My problem was, that I really liked the old Adept. But as you say: Synaptic seems to be the best package manager around. I'll stick to it then. Thank you for the input! :-)
[16:53] <darthanubis> That white was super bright
[17:01] <BluesKaj> fkm, you can still install adept if you wish
[17:02] <darthanubis> BluesKaj: <fkm> Hi there. I need some ideas for a substitute for the old Adept.
[17:03] <fkm> BluesKaj, The old one?
[17:03] <darthanubis> old?
[17:03] <BluesKaj> yeah, it'll grab some old kde3 files
[17:03] <fkm> The one before the "let's make it more like Gnome"-approach
[17:04] <BluesKaj> fkm, , hang on ,...lemme look at a few things
[17:04] <fkm> BluesKaj, I can only find the 3.0 version. Do I have to add another repo?
[17:05] <fkm> BluesKaj, Ok, thank you
[17:06] <fkm> PS: This is the version I adored -> http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/images/C/kubuntu-adept.png
[17:06] <BluesKaj> fkm, sorry wrong again , the new adept is the one i have ...which I prefer to the old one
[17:06] <fkm> kk
[17:06] <fkm> Thank you anyway for the effort! :-)
[17:07] <BluesKaj> fkm, didn't mean to mislead you , but I forgot that I got rid of all my old kde3 files after moving to amarok2
[17:08] <fkm> No problem :-D
[17:08] <fkm> Rather too much information than no/few answer(s) ;-)
[17:08] <BluesKaj> fkm , yeah I miss the old one too :(
[17:10] <fkm> Luckily they'll never remove APT (the CLI) ;-) But I kinda like my mouse ;-)
[17:10] <contrast> Greets, everyone...
[17:10] <fkm> Hi there, contrast
[17:11] <contrast> Anyone using the kubuntu-ppa/backports repo? I'm wondering how safe it is to upgrade to KDE 4.3 RC1.
[17:12] <fkm> contrast, Pretty save. I've just (yesterday) had a problem with mixing up normal and PPA packages too much which left me with plasma widgets that didn't work properly. But normally it should be fine
[17:13] <contrast> fkm: So did you get the problem sorted out? I'm using quite a few of the Plasma widgets on my laptop, so that might be a showstopper here.
[17:14] <fkm> Well.. I removed KDE completely and reinstalled it :-D But I guess that could have been sorted out much easier :-)
[17:15] <fkm> But I wanted a fresh start anyway :-)
[17:15] <contrast> fkm: Cool, thanks for the info.
[17:15] <Kovert> how can i add a "sudo dolphin" to my menu?
[17:16] <fkm> Kovert, Rightclick on the menu-icon and then click on the "Menu Editor"
[17:16] <contrast> Kovert: Right-click on the menu icon -> Menu editor, then just copy Dolphin's entry and add kdesudo to the beginning of the command.
[17:16] <Kovert> thanks
[17:16] <fkm> Kovert, First of all I wouldn't recommend it and secondly: IF then use kdesudo dophin
[17:16] <fkm> :-)
[17:17] <contrast> np
[17:17] <contrast> Just be careful and you'll be fine.
[17:18] <Kovert> I have enought bad experiane to know how to distroy things
[17:18] <fkm> :-)
[17:19] <contrast> hehe
[17:19] <contrast> fkm: Are you able to have different plasmoids on each desktop? I thought that was supposed to be in 4.3, but last time I tried a beta, it didn't seem possible.
[17:20] <fkm> Don't know. I don't use multiple desktops
[17:20] <fkm> Last time I used it was with compiz to show off the cube/cylinder :-D
[17:20] <fkm> Normally one desktop works fine for me
[17:20] <contrast> oh ok
[17:21] <Kovert> i tried the torride but ended up stuck inside
[17:21] <BluesKaj> normally I don't run bleeding edge , but i got bored in jaunty so i went or it , "upgraded to karmic" and kde3 and FF3.6  etc
[17:21] <BluesKaj> or=for
[17:21] <contrast> BluesKaj: how's everything running since then?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> contrast, plasma crashes quite often , but then recovers quickly , whenever i close a webpage or kate
[17:23] <contrast> is there a proper ubuntu package for ff3.5 yet?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> altho compiz runs ok
[17:23] <contrast> i mean one that will install in jaunty w/o too much fuss
[17:25] <BluesKaj> contrast, dunno for sure if this is the best "how to " but it worked ok for some other ppl http://www.ubuntusolutions.org/2009/07/installing-firefox-3-5-the-right-way-on-ubuntu-jaunty.html
[17:26] <contrast> BluesKaj: Cool, thanks
[17:27] <BluesKaj> contrast, or this one https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[17:27] <Kovert> Dont see why hurry and upgrade
[17:27] <Kovert> should be shortly added
[17:28] <Kovert> be supprosed if it took a week
[17:35] <contrast> i'm off. peace, y'all
[17:44]  * DaskreeCH wanders to Offtopic to muse about the pyschology behind FOSS
[18:01] <KDesk> Hi,
[18:01] <KDesk> Why do the gtk apps (maybe others too) have a white tray icon background in kde?
[18:09] <drbobb> hello, does anyone else have the problem that swf content stopped working (in firefox)? notably, youtube?
[18:10] <drbobb> about:plugins tells me the flash plugin is installed and enabled, but nothing works
[18:12] <Kovert> what versoion of firefox
[18:14] <drbobb> Kovert: 3.0.11 the one currently default in jaunty
[18:14] <juan_> hi there
[18:15] <Kovert> you can install it from medibuntu
[18:15] <Kovert> !medibuntu
[18:15] <Kovert> aand see if that fixes the issue
[18:15] <Cellomander> hi "patch -p1 <dir>patchname give no response." wht can be the problem_
[18:16] <juan_> Could someone help me with this error_
[18:16] <juan_> ?
[18:16] <juan_> This DVD Video is encrypted. To be able to watch it you will need to install libdvdcss by running from a console: sudo /usr/share/doc/kaffeine/install-css.sh. In some countries it is illegal to install the decryption software without permission from the video copyright holder.
[18:16] <drbobb> Kovert: wait a minute, I did once add medibuntu to my sources.list, maybe I'm already using the medibuntu version
[18:17] <Kovert> Juan whats the issue?
[18:18] <Cellomander> Kovert, what can be the reason that i can not get response from patch p1 command_
[18:18] <juan_> kovert, thank you, I already opened the console and did wat the message say but it continues
[18:18] <juan_> kovert, sending that message
[18:18] <Kovert> Cellomander sorry dont know
[18:19] <Kovert> juan_ have you installed the restricted packages?
[18:19] <juan_> kovert, no i am a newbie in linux
[18:19] <Cellomander> ok thnks.. have anyone worked here with network programming in kernel space?
[18:20] <Kovert> juan_ok now you know what to do
[18:20] <sseiersen> woot
[18:20] <sseiersen> This OS is amazing
[18:20] <juan_> kovert, and how do I install the restricted packages_
[18:21] <juan_> ?
[18:21] <Kovert> juan_look for it with kpackage
[18:21] <sseiersen> How do I have a graphical way of installing stuff?
[18:21] <Kovert> sseiersenkpackage
[18:21] <sseiersen> k
[18:21] <Kovert> sseiersen kpackage
[18:21] <juan_> kovert, thank you
[18:21] <Kovert> !kpackage
[18:21] <Kovert> !adept
[18:22] <Kovert> !restricted
[18:22] <juan_> ubottu, thank you too!
[18:22] <sseiersen> and uh...where's my konsole?
[18:23] <sseiersen> idk why it aint installed
[18:23] <Kovert> sseiersen use terminat
[18:23] <Kovert> terminal
[18:23] <sseiersen> cant find it
[18:23] <Kovert> sseiersen you in kde?
[18:24] <sseiersen> yeah
[18:24] <sseiersen> on Ubuntu server 9.04
[18:24] <Kovert> sseiersen look in the menus for your package manager
[18:25] <Kovert> sseiersen if not sudo apt-get install adapt
[18:25] <sseiersen> im gonna have to go to text for that.
[18:25] <sseiersen> i cant find it anywhere in kde
[18:25] <Kovert> sseiersen yeah
[18:26] <sseiersen> brb
[18:26] <judgen> Hmm unable to install the kernel when using net-boot... any ideas?
[18:28] <juan_> kovert, please how do I run KPackage ?
[18:29] <Kovert> juan_ use adapt if you dont have it
[18:29] <Kovert> juan what package manager do you have
[18:29] <Dragnslcr> KpackageKit is installed by default instead of Adept in 9.04
[18:30] <juan_> kovert, I don't know
[18:30] <Dragnslcr> juan_- Applications -> System -> Software Management (if you're using the new-style K menu)
[18:30] <Kovert> juan what kubuntu are you using
[18:31] <snikker> hi, someone can help me with an usb wireless card (chip realtek 8187L)... i've loaded the rtl8187 module, but i'm unable to get it working...
[18:31] <sseiersen> back!
[18:31] <sseiersen> w/ konsole this time
[18:31] <judgen> Ok another try... maybe i should switch mirror... since i cant get kernel to install. (using netboot iso)
[18:31] <Kovert> thanks Dragnslcr
[18:31] <Kovert> judgen sounds good
[18:32] <juan_> kovert, I have applications->System, but there is not any Software Management option
[18:32] <sseiersen> Konvert what was that package again?
[18:32] <Kovert> sseiersen restricted
[18:32] <Kovert> !restricted
[18:32] <Dragnslcr> juan_- it might be listed as KPackageKit, depending on how you have your menu configured
[18:33] <Kovert> <is using karmic
[18:33] <sseiersen> brb. configuring.
[18:33] <sseiersen> btw, how do I get all the system administration tools?
[18:34] <Dragnslcr> By installing them
[18:34] <juan_> kovert, I have Add/Remove Package Manager
[18:34] <Kovert> juan_ go for it
[18:34] <Cellomander> Hi, anyone here working on network programming on kernel space?
[18:35] <Dragnslcr> juan_- what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[18:35] <sseiersen> how do you get a list of all the irc channels?
[18:35] <sseiersen> nvm
[18:37] <Kovert> sseiersen depends on irc progrsam
[18:38] <sseiersen> I found it
[18:38] <sseiersen> Thanks
[18:40] <judgen> Yay it worked... Thank you finland for you mirror =)
[18:42] <judgen> Does Ralink2870 USB devices work in kubuntu?
[18:42] <judgen> !ralink
[18:43] <sseiersen> !server
[18:44] <sseiersen> Thanks ubottu
[18:47] <Neremor> hi!
[18:47] <Neremor> i had to kill plasma using STRG+Alt+Esc because it got stucked... how can i start it now?
[18:47] <Neremor> the command "plasma" doesn't exist
[18:47] <troob> !xft
[18:48] <Kovert> was it ctl alt f12
[18:48] <Kovert> or ctl shift f12
[18:48] <Neremor> i only know Alt+Shift+F12
[18:48] <Neremor> that enables and disables compositing
[18:48] <Kovert> ok maybe thats what I was thinking about
[18:49] <Neremor> can noone tell me how to start the plasma workspace?
[18:49] <Neremor> which comand do i have to run?
[18:54] <Neremor> is here no one who can help me with this simple problem?
[18:54] <Kovert> try joing #kde
[18:55] <linux-hdtv> Hi, how can i add a printer to Kubuntu 9.04 ?
[18:55] <hampei> #ubuntu-de
[18:55] <Kovert> in the system setyup isnt there a icon
[18:55] <Kovert> !cups
[18:55] <linux-hdtv> there is, kovert, but i only see network printers there
[18:56] <Kovert> see above
[18:56] <baron86> Hello.. I want to install a program in a folder named Back up however the program doesnt allow me to install it there cause the name Back up has a space between Back and Up. I tried to use the " " or the '  ' but didnt work.. any other ideas?
[18:57] <Kovert> under score?
[18:58] <baron86> what do you mean underscore?
[18:58] <linux-hdtv> kovert, thanks for the links above, but i don't see how to setup a printer there.
[18:58] <Kovert> baron86 back_up
[18:58] <frenchy> baron86: tap bac --> and the "tab" key
[18:58] <baron86> like Back_up? well i suppose its a different folder than Back up and i wasnt clear.. I should not change the name
[18:59] <baron86> the tab key doesnt work cause i am in installation mode
[18:59] <Kovert> baron86 do it lter?
[18:59] <baron86> whats lter?
[18:59] <frenchy> baron86: so try back\ up/
[18:59] <Kovert> linux-hdtv what version fo kubuntu
[19:00] <Kovert> later
[19:00] <linux-hdtv> 9.04
[19:00] <Kovert> linux-hdtv google it
[19:00] <baron86> doesnt work frenchy.. That works only in the console not in the installation
[19:01] <frenchy> baron86: r u sure that ur folder exist ?
[19:01] <baron86> yes..
[19:02] <linux-hdtv> i did, kovert. q=kubuntu+9.04+setup+printer gives:
[19:02] <frenchy> what does it says with ls
[19:02] <linux-hdtv> http://www.kubuntuway.net/forum/showthread.php?t=342
[19:02] <linux-hdtv> and shows someone else not knowing how to add a printer in Kubuntu 9.04
[19:03] <baron86> i suppose its a fault of the program but i am asking if anyone else faced sth like that before
[19:03] <Kovert> linux-hdtv sorry i allways use negt printers
[19:03] <Kovert> sorry net
[19:03] <linux-hdtv> i understand, kovert
[19:03] <frenchy> baron86: what "ls" give you ?
[19:04] <sseiersen> what's the driver for nvidia cards?
[19:04] <Kovert> sseiersen there are two
[19:05] <sseiersen> ?
[19:05] <baron86> why is that so difficult for you to understand??? i run this program and asks me where to save and i put the folder .../Back up and says invalid.. The folder exists okie?
[19:05] <Kovert> well there is the non supported one
[19:05] <Kovert> thats for me has been the best
[19:05] <sseiersen> nvidia's ?
[19:05] <Kovert> I guess I am really going toi open a 9.04 machine
[19:06] <Kovert> sseiersen yes
[19:06] <DaskreeCH> baron86: Do you have rights to write into the folder?
[19:06] <baron86> yeah i do
[19:06] <Kovert> sseiersen I am starting a 9.04 machine
[19:07] <baron86> I suppose its the programs fault and maybe doesnt support gaps.. It propably wants a different coding propably sth like `~"'; i dunno
[19:07] <sseiersen> Konvert have you had any problems with the xorg.conf created by nVidia's program?
[19:08] <Kovert> nope
[19:08] <sseiersen> Great
[19:08] <Kovert> sseiersen if you kill it it will be recreated
[19:08] <sseiersen> On SUSE and Fedora they both crashed and burned
[19:08] <apavlo> Quick question: Just upgraded to Jaunty. Saw that power-guidance was removed. Is there suppose to be an applet or plasmoid for PowerDevil?
[19:08] <Kovert> sseiersen your on the wrong chanel then
[19:08] <EagleScreen> there is plasmoid for PowerDevil
[19:09] <apavlo> EagleScreen: Is it installed by default?
[19:09] <EagleScreen> it should
[19:09] <apavlo> EagleScreen: I just have "Battery Monitor", which sucks
[19:09] <Kovert> sseiersen system applications hardware drivers
[19:10] <EagleScreen> apavlo: you can click on it and you will see more options
[19:10] <sseiersen> ?
[19:10] <Kovert> sseiersen click on the K
[19:10] <apavlo> EagleScreen: Ah.... that's terrible that I wasted 15 minutes of my life on this....
[19:11] <linux-hdtv> Kovert, it was easy by selecting "New Network Printer", it sets up a local printer no problem, thanks :-)
[19:11] <sseiersen> huh?
[19:11]  * sseiersen is lost
[19:11] <Kovert> sseiersen the kicker the "K"  button left bottom
[19:11] <sseiersen> I know that... :]
[19:11] <Kovert> then sapplication
[19:11] <Kovert> s
[19:11] <apavlo> EagleScreen: Is there anyway to get it back in the sys tray like the old power guidance applet? I don't need to look at it all the time and it's really large in the dock
[19:11] <Kovert> then system
[19:12] <Kovert> thhrn "hardware drivers"
[19:12] <EagleScreen> apavlo: you have got guidance-powermanager in repository, isntall it if you want
[19:12] <sseiersen> Dont have a "Hardware Drivers"
[19:12] <Kovert> sseiersen why dont you install more of the kde options
[19:13] <sseiersen> like?
[19:13]  * sseiersen wishes that stuff was auto installed....
[19:13] <Kovert> sseiersen might be system tools
[19:13] <Kovert> sseiersen your using server?
[19:13] <sseiersen> yeah
[19:14] <Kovert> sseiersen thats why
[19:14] <sseiersen> >_>
[19:14] <apavlo> Ah if anybody cares, it looks like KDE 4.3/4.3 has exactly what I want:
[19:14] <apavlo> http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/A_system_tray_even_more_Plasma
[19:14] <apavlo> Good to know
[19:14] <sseiersen> wow
[19:18] <juanfabelo> boa tarde
[19:19] <juanfabelo> list
[19:19] <juanfabelo> channel
[19:19] <juanfabelo> help
[19:19] <Kovert> !sp
[19:19] <sseiersen> !es
[19:21] <crunchie> hi
[19:23] <crunchie> to make an iso from an xp cd, the following should work. correct?   cat /dev/cdrom > xp.iso   (using it for vitrualbox)
[19:23] <juanfabelo> hi
[19:23] <juanfabelo> join
[19:23] <sseiersen> crunchie: ask in #vbox
[19:23] <juanfabelo> )
[19:23] <juanfabelo> alguem do brasil?
[19:23] <sseiersen> !es
[19:24] <hhlp> !pt | juanfabelo
[19:25] <sseiersen> !ru | sseiersen
[19:26] <alvaro_> djgj
[19:41] <nascentmind> hi. In my kubuntu when i see the network manager connections it shows my ssid with a green shield armor icon and when i hover on it,it says wpa-psk. Am i secure?
[19:42] <papa> hi all
[19:47] <BluesKaj> nascentmind, as long as you are pw protected on wpa-psk , which is default I believe
[19:48] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, when i hover my mouse on the green armor it says that.
[19:49] <BluesKaj> nascentmind, did it ask for a pw when you enabled network manager
[19:49] <nascentmind> yes it uses kwallet to store my passwors.
[19:50] <nascentmind> so unless i give a password for kwallet it does not connect.
[19:50] <BluesKaj> ok, which version of kubuntu are you using ?
[19:52] <nascentmind> jaunty
[19:54] <BluesKaj> nascentmind, I switched to wicd , due to it's stability and clear info about network security , both wireless and ethernet
[19:55] <nascentmind> BluesKaj, oh k
[19:56] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[19:56] <sseiersen> !info flash
[19:56] <sseiersen> hmm
[19:57] <Kovert> sseiersen again medibuntu
[19:58] <Kovert> !medibuntu
[20:12] <Fieldy> !wireless
[20:14] <Xemba> hello, i've purged networkmanager and now i cannot connect to my lan anymore, how can i install a networkmanager again?
[20:15] <Xemba> (karmic + kde 4.3rc1
[20:16] <Kovert> Xemba can you install knetwork manager
[20:16] <BluesKaj> Xemba, install wicd if possible
[20:17] <Xemba> without interet?
[20:17] <Xemba> internet?
[20:17] <pantheras> hi!
[20:17] <Kovert> can you use your source cd?
[20:18] <rgarcia> Hi all, please does anybody know how do I format a pendrive?
[20:18] <pantheras> im just instal kubuntu... nice feelings
[20:18] <BluesKaj> Xemba, how are talking to us , use that pc/device to download wicd http://wicd.sourceforge.net/
[20:18] <Xemba> i don't try, its an jaunty cd... i wanted to install the deb from my memory stick, but i don't find the right version
[20:18] <rgarcia> !pendrive
[20:18] <Kovert> pantheras what is your native language
[20:18] <Xemba> BlueEagle: under winxp
[20:19] <Kovert> !es
[20:19] <pantheras> Kovert russian
[20:19] <rgarcia> anyone?
[20:19] <Kovert> !ru
[20:20] <BluesKaj> Xemba, then copy it from windows in dolphin ntfs-volume on kubuntu
[20:20] <pantheras> да))
[20:21] <Xemba> that is not the problem, but i don't want to install another network manager
[20:21] <Xemba> i'll use the plasmoid again :-)
[20:21] <Xemba> i want to use...
[20:21] <BluesKaj> wicd replaces network manger
[20:22] <BluesKaj> when it's installed
[20:22] <Xemba> but i don't want a replacement
[20:23] <BluesKaj> well then Xemba, good luck and have fun
[20:23] <Xemba> lol thanks for your time
[20:30] <pantheras> ups... resatrt
[20:31] <pantheras> *restart
[20:41] <vismad> hola a todos
[20:41] <vismad> necesito un poco de ayuda
[20:41] <Kovert> !es
[20:41] <jussi01> !es | vismad
[20:42] <vismad> Ok. thanks
[20:44] <sockmonkey> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu on my HP Pavilion 553x, and I'm having trouble getting eth0 to work.  lshw is showing the card to be of the rtl8139 chipset.  Any ideas here?
[20:44] <KDesk> How can I know which files does a (open) binary use?
[20:48] <jussi01> sockmonkey: curious, as that is one of the best supported cards in linux
[20:49] <sockmonkey> jussi01: yeah, I'm a bit perplexed by that too... I've had this card up and running on several boxen before.  I'm wondering if there's a disconnect between the mobo's firmware communicating the chipset properly?
[20:50] <BluesKaj> sockmonkey, you have some choices , are you using the widget-network-manager now ?
[20:51] <sockmonkey> BluesKaj: I'm in Windows atm -- I can print any instructions you give and switch over, though
[20:52] <jussi01> sockmonkey: is it a new install?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> sockmonkey,are you dual booting ?
[20:52] <sockmonkey> jussi01: Yeah, just installed about 15 minutes ago
[20:52] <sockmonkey> BluesKaj: Yes
[20:53] <jussi01> sockmonkey: did you have the ethernet connected at the install time?
[20:53] <sockmonkey> jussi01: Yup -- all was connected.  The LiveCD didn't pick up the ethernet either, so I was hoping I could modprobe following install
[20:53] <jussi01> curious...
[20:55] <BluesKaj> sockmonkey, i had a similar problem , so I DL'd Wicd from http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ and then in dolphin moved the file into kubuntu from the ntfs-volume and installed it.  It works well
[20:56] <jussi01> sockmonkey: Id suggest giving  BluesKaj's suggestion a go...
[20:57] <pantheras>   Добрый вечер, Александр!
[20:57] <pantheras> На сегодняшний момент Piligrim S329 стоит 10.000, Piligrim Stealth 15.000, комплект Piligrim Double - 20.000
[20:57] <pantheras> По вопросам приобретения можно звонить (812)9717279 или писать мне, для бесплатной доставки и установки в СПб нужно состоять в группе и сказать об этом при звонке
[20:57] <FloodBotK2> pantheras: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:57] <sockmonkey> BluesKaj, jussi01: Thanks for your help -- I'll give wicd a try.
[20:58] <pantheras> Kovert where r u from
[20:58] <pantheras> Kovert where r u from
[20:58] <BluesKaj> !ru | pantheras
[20:58] <BluesKaj> !lol
[20:58] <BluesKaj> or r u
[20:59] <sockmonkey> I'll report back and let you guys know how it goes -- keeping my fingers crossed :)
[20:59] <pantheras> мля... я в контакт писала... а сцуко как здесь оказалось???
[21:00] <jussi01> !ru | pantheras
[21:01] <pantheras>  /msg
[21:01] <BluesKaj> jussi01, this pantheras person keeps trolling in and out of the chat ..he's done this several times today
[21:07] <drbobb> help, flash has stopped working for me in firefox, for no reason I can figure out
[21:10] <drbobb> .
[21:12] <BluesKaj> which firefox drbobb?
[21:28] <Tacosarecool> hello
[21:28] <DOOM777> hi
[21:29] <Tacosarecool> What wifi client do you recommend I use?
[21:29] <Tacosarecool> I know there was wlcid or whatever
[21:29] <DOOM777> sorry, i am a n00b
[21:29] <Tacosarecool> I liked that program
[21:29] <Tacosarecool> !wlcid
[21:29] <DaskreeCH> Tacosarecool: knetworkmanager nm-applet or wicd which ever works for you
[21:29] <Tacosarecool> !wcfid
[21:29] <DOOM777> !putty
[21:29] <Tacosarecool> yes thank you
[21:30] <DOOM777> does putty run on KDE?
[21:30] <DaskreeCH> DOOM777: Why do you need it?
[21:31] <DOOM777> cause i also run it on windows, so i have openssh, putty, and tactia version of the same key
[21:31] <DOOM777> it's good for key translation
[21:32] <DaskreeCH> Umm ok Still not sure why you need it under KDE
[21:32] <DOOM777> cause i only have kubuntu linux
[21:32] <DOOM777> plus windows 7
[21:33] <ZeiP> DOOM777, it runs on Linux, so why wouldn't it run on Kubuntu?
[21:33] <ZeiP> Not sure why you need it though :)
[21:33] <DOOM777> cause it needs GTK
[21:33] <DOOM777> for key translation
[21:34] <ZeiP> Well, yeah, you probably need to install the dependencies for that package also, like for any other.
[21:34] <Dragnslcr> DOOM777- you can just use ssh from Konsole
[21:34] <DOOM777> and i could translate into all three versions of keys?
[21:35] <Dragnslcr> You can use keys, yes
[21:35] <ZeiP> Dragnslcr, s/he's not talking about using keys for the connection, but about translating them between different key formats.
[21:35] <drbobb> "shiretoko" is a funny name for a browser
[21:35] <Guest10725> ok
[21:36] <Tacosarecool> thank you lol
[21:36] <Tacosarecool> Thank you irc client
[21:36] <Tacosarecool> I forgot my password
[21:36] <Tacosarecool> for my registered irc name
[21:37] <bsm> hi, anyone having problems with the window switcher plasmoid after upgrading to kde 4.3RC1? btw, 4.3 rocks :)
[21:37] <lukas> Hi, I have some unavailable packages that I am not able to find, where can such packages be found?
[21:38] <lukas> I have fresh installation
[21:40] <drbobb> I think I'll try the 64bit flashplayer from adobe, for practical purposes my flashplugin is broken anyway
[21:43] <DaskreeCH> bsm: whats the window switcher plasmoid>?
[21:43] <DaskreeCH> lukas: Some more information might help
[21:43] <drbobb> yakuake would be very nice if only it made sensible use of konsole profiles
[21:44] <Tacosarecool> oh cool
[21:44] <Tacosarecool> should I get the rc1 of kde 3
[21:44] <DaskreeCH> Tacosarecool: I guess you mean KDE 4.3 ?
[21:45] <Tacosarecool> yeah
[21:45] <bsm> DaskreeCH: ah maybe its called window list plasmoid? in german its "fensterleiste" :D
[21:45] <bsm> it does not display any windows, in fact it does not display anything
[21:45] <Tacosarecool> I'll wait until late july
[21:45] <DaskreeCH> bsm: ah right I think it's called task manager
[21:46] <DaskreeCH> bsm: remove it and re add it
[21:46] <DaskreeCH> Tacosarecool: I guess you can what are your reasons for removing it?
[21:46] <Tacosarecool> removing what?
[21:47] <DaskreeCH> KDE 4.3
[21:47] <bsm> DaskreeCH: it does not help
[21:47] <drbobb> dang, still no sound in flash videos
[21:47] <drbobb> seems to be not a firefox or flashplayer issue, but a kubuntu issue
[21:47] <DaskreeCH> bsm: what version of KDE are you using? Though it has worked in all of them
[21:47] <Tacosarecool> drbobb
[21:48] <Tacosarecool> try sudo also force-reload
[21:48] <Tacosarecool> alsa
[21:48] <DaskreeCH> drbobb: Or a sound issue
[21:48] <Tacosarecool> not also
[21:48] <Tacosarecool> drboobb try sudo also force-reload
[21:48] <Tacosarecool> darn
[21:48] <Tacosarecool> typos
[21:49] <DaskreeCH> Ha ha ha :)
[21:49] <drbobb> omfg
[21:49] <lukas> DaskreeCH: okay, I have kubuntu 9.04, fresh installation 64bit and I want to have skas patch that is unavailable. I added only medibuntu repository
[21:49] <DaskreeCH> skas patch ?
[21:49] <bsm> DaskreeCH: 4.95 from kubuntu experimental
[21:49] <PsynoKhi0> heya, does anyone know of a good sound setup guide for k9.04? so far I've only found stuff about getting PA to work yet at the same time saying it shouldn't be there and it's not a recommended package
[21:49] <drbobb> i got a deluge of notification sounds, all at once :O
[21:49] <Tacosarecool> How do I make sure I have the latest kde
[21:50] <Tacosarecool> not the beta
[21:50] <DaskreeCH> bsm: reinstall kdebase-workspace-bin
[21:50] <Tacosarecool> but the latest
[21:50] <Tacosarecool> pre proposed updates right?
[21:50] <DaskreeCH> Tacosarecool: Backports I think
[21:50] <bsm> DaskreeCH: thank you, I'll try
[21:50] <drbobb> yeah alsa must have blocked on something
[21:50] <lukas> DaskreeCH: yes, linux-patch-skas
[21:51] <DaskreeCH> bsm: also try a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after that
[21:51] <lukas> DaskreeCH: it is set as recommended
[21:51] <drbobb> now i can't really use my system while several hours ofpending system sounds are played
[21:51] <PsynoKhi0> basically I only have mono output for one app at a time :/
[21:51] <DaskreeCH> lukas: I've never heard of a skas package
[21:52] <drbobb> it's become rather unresponsive, heh
[21:52] <Tacosarecool> Why did they replace konversation with quassel anyway?
[21:52] <DaskreeCH> Konversation was KDE3 only at the time.
[21:52] <DaskreeCH> Quassel team was very responsive to suggested changes
[21:53] <lukas> DaskreeCH: look in recommended packages of user-mode-linux
[21:54] <DaskreeCH> lukas: Don't see it there either
[21:54] <DaskreeCH> do an apt-cache policy user-mode-linux
[21:54] <DaskreeCH> What server is it using?
[21:54] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[21:54] <snirp> Quassel is not antoher app starting with the K. Now we have to cope with tke Q :-(
[21:54] <DaskreeCH> hi
[21:54] <rysiek|pl> on jaunty, there should be a "printers" secion in the System Settings, right?
[21:54] <DaskreeCH> snirp: Koala has konversation jsut set that back to default
[21:55] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: Koala will be back to konversation for IRC? yippie!
[21:55] <DaskreeCH> rysiek|pl: Not what I said
[21:55] <p-f> any ideas what might be causing flash flv players to freeze every 2-3 seconds? The sound is fine, it's just that it sits on some frames for too long. This is not a connection issue.
[21:56] <snirp> rysiek|pl: It was default on my kaola...
[21:56] <rysiek|pl> snirp: Konversation?
[21:56]  * rysiek|pl prefers Konversation to Quassel
[21:56] <snirp> rysiek|pl: Konversation yeah, But maybe it remained there thoughout dist-upgrade. Dunno how that works.
[21:56] <rysiek|pl> anywhoo, on jaunty there should be a "Printers" sectioon in the System Settings, am I right?
[21:57] <lukas> well, I see it there, in cerommended not dependencies, output is in http://pastebin.com/f6031fc53
[21:58] <drbobb> urg i think I'll log out, seems to be no end to these sounds, and kmix has died, i can't turn down the volum
[21:58] <snirp> rysiek|pl: Got rid of Konversation though. Krunner just gave me too much choice after typing >kon
[21:59] <rysiek|pl> hah
[21:59] <rysiek|pl> true
[21:59]  * rysiek|pl misses Katapult
[21:59] <snirp> What was ever the point of naming everything with a K. Drives me nuts. There is supposed to be something like "alias" to rename, right?
[21:59] <DaskreeCH> snirp: typing the extra letter was too much to ask ?
[21:59] <BluesKaj> Tacosarecool, Wicd is what you're looking for
[22:00] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[22:00] <Tacosarecool> I know
[22:00] <Tacosarecool> i'm already using it now
[22:00] <BluesKaj> good
[22:00] <Tacosarecool> thanks though
[22:00] <snirp> DashreeCH: Yep. That too, Names are confusing and quite frankly not appealing as well.
[22:00] <Tacosarecool> Bluekaj how do I make sure I'm using the latest version of kde
[22:01] <DaskreeCH> lukas: Indeed. Looks like a bug can you drop into #ubuntu-motu and mention it to them?
[22:01] <DaskreeCH> snirp: Change them then :-P
[22:01] <snirp> Tacosarecool: check >help >about KDE
[22:02] <snirp> Tacosarecool: 4.2.90 here. KDE 4.3 beta
[22:02] <Tacosarecool> I only have 4.2.2
[22:02] <lukas> Dekans: look here http://pastebin.com/f579d06e4
[22:03] <DaskreeCH> Tacosarecool: rad http://kubuntu.org
[22:03] <phh> snirp: you should upgrade, the RC1 is out
[22:03] <snirp> Tacosarecool: could be ok if you are not on beta's.
[22:03] <Dekans> lukas: DaskreeCH :)
[22:03] <snirp> phh: nice!
[22:03] <BluesKaj> Tacosarecool, depends if you want bleeding edge or stability
[22:04] <snirp> *starting up packagekit, with the extra K ;-)*
[22:04] <Tacosarecool> Ok I like having the latest why not
[22:04] <Tacosarecool> Linux is all about testing
[22:04] <Tacosarecool> and making it better
[22:05] <snirp> nominates Tacosarecool for miss Universe
[22:05] <BluesKaj> well then , you can upgrade to karmic and kde4.3 and the latest kernel etc
[22:05] <lukas> Dekans: sorry,
[22:05] <Dekans> np :p
[22:05] <rysiek|pl> oh, anybody uses karmic?
[22:05] <rysiek|pl> is it at all usable?
[22:06] <lukas> yes, it was to DaskreeCH
[22:06] <snirp> how come i do not get the RC1 here. What repo are you using?
[22:06] <BluesKaj> Tacosarecool, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha2
[22:06] <DaskreeCH> rysiek|pl: When it's done somewhat
[22:06] <DaskreeCH> snirp: Read the topic?
[22:06] <snirp> rysiek|pl; been on it for about a month and did not experience many crashes and no annoying bugs really.
[22:07] <Tacosarecool> no I'm not using alphas lol
[22:07] <Tacosarecool> Thanks though
[22:07] <drbobb> heh, I experience a fair amount of crashes and annoying bugs with jaunty
[22:08]  * rysiek|pl uses hardy; kde4 is *not* yet usable for me; waiting eagerly, jaunty on a second partition with kde4.3 prerelease being fired-up from time to time
[22:08] <drbobb> karmic can't be much worse, so i'll try to switch soon
[22:08] <Tacosarecool> Tell me how it goes but remember it's an alpha
[22:08] <drbobb> actually up to and including hardy, kubuntu was getting better with each release
[22:08] <snirp> drbobb: some plasma crashes, but had those before as well.
[22:09] <BluesKaj> karmic crashes then recovers when I close edit apps or some times webpages
[22:09] <drbobb> after that it got a lot worse
[22:09] <BluesKaj> actualy plasma crashes
[22:09] <drbobb> snirp: there were no plasma crashes in kde3 ;)
[22:09] <Tacosarecool> 9.04 is way better than 8.10 8.10 was the most annoying release
[22:10] <drbobb> whew, glad I decided to skip 8.10
[22:11] <drbobb> still, hardy to jaunty has been full of regressions as far as i'm concerned
[22:11] <snirp> Kpackagekit fails to display my software sources. Otherwise it works fine and i can edit the sources,list. Any clues on what to do about it?
[22:11] <DOOM777> is there a way to access clipboard from shell?
[22:11] <drbobb> and it's not just kde4, video performance has degraded seriously for me
[22:12] <BluesKaj> snirp , use synaptic or adept
[22:12] <snirp> *whobbles a window for drbobb*
[22:13] <Tacosarecool> drbob are you using a intel graphics card?
[22:13] <snirp> BluesKaj: that seems like a workaroud. Are there problems with kpackagekit then?
[22:13] <drbobb> in fact the x.org in jaunty doesn't work at all with my video
[22:13] <drbobb> nope mine is a SiS
[22:13] <BlueChili> mplayer seems not to suffer from this regressions, on the other hand VLC and dragon has them
[22:13] <Tacosarecool> did you update the intel driver has been updated and stuff in june
[22:13] <BluesKaj> snirp, yes I found it clunky and unstable
[22:13] <drbobb> I had to selectively downgrade most of x.org to hardy versions
[22:13] <drbobb> still, video playback works poorly compared to hardy
[22:14] <drbobb> and vlc is fully broken (as in, displays nothing)
[22:14] <snirp> BluesKaj:I will have a look into behaviour under adept
[22:14] <BluesKaj> drbobb, xorg is very dependent on HAL in jaunty
[22:15] <fkm> Grrrr... Somehow I guess I broke my installation. After removing the main Metapackage of either KDE or GNOME "apt-get autoremove" will remove almost the whole system.....
[22:15] <BluesKaj> X is on it's way out from what i've read , udev is going to be the new std
[22:15] <drbobb> well too bad xorg no longer supports my video card. sure it's a crappy one but i can't afford a new laptop atm
[22:16] <drbobb> BluesKaj: uhh you must have meant HAL
[22:16] <DaskreeCH> rysiek|pl: What are your thoughts on KDE 4.3 ?
[22:16] <drbobb> not X
[22:16] <snirp> BluesKaj: Under adept: [Edit sources] loads the sources but does not display for editing. Issue with key or repo here?
[22:16] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: well... coming close to being usable.
[22:17] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: I see lots of good things in KDE4, lots of great ideas, and with 4.3 they're getting pretty close to decent implementation
[22:17] <DaskreeCH> rysiek|pl: neat what's missing for you?
[22:17] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: still, there are a few things that bar me from using it daily
[22:17] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: first and foremost - speed
[22:17] <DaskreeCH> fkm: What did you expect? :)
[22:18] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: it's just too damn slow, albeit much faster than kde 4.1
[22:18] <BluesKaj> drbobb, well udev / HAL , without xorg is the next step , right ?
[22:18] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: then there's stability, but it's almost there, we're almost home with that
[22:19] <DaskreeCH> rysiek|pl: Yeah optimization still hasn't had a focused release yet. It's sped up but we haven't had the call to make everything that much faster as yet
[22:19] <drbobb> BluesKaj: uhh you lost me there
[22:19] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: and my personal favourite: support for multi-screen setups
[22:19] <BluesKaj> anyway it's dinner time here ...BBL
[22:19] <fkm> DaskreeCH, That only libraries that are no longer needed are beeing removed.
[22:19] <DaskreeCH> fkm: Yeah that's kinda what autoremove does
[22:19] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: I have two screens with my desktop, one of those is rotated 90deg
[22:19] <Adola> When I try to sshfs a folder to a local folder, I get this error "fuse: mountpoint is not empty"
[22:20] <Daemon_> are there any issues with the ext4 filesytem on a clean install of jaunty?
[22:20] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: TwinView doesn't support that; Xinerama doesn't support Composite; and KDE4 still doesn't support two separate screens
[22:20] <Adola> And it says "fuse: if you are sure this is safe, use the 'nonempty' mount option"
[22:20] <fkm> DaskreeCH, Well... Before autoremove didn't propose to remove KDM ;-) And I didn't have the "kde" metapackage installed aswel
[22:21] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: so I am unable to use kde4 on my desktop; on the laptop however I catch myself using it more and more
[22:22] <Tacosarecool> should I installed pre-released updates
[22:23] <DaskreeCH> Tacosarecool: If you like. Should is a strong statement though
[22:23] <Tacosarecool> ok but pre-released means proposed
[22:24] <Daemon_> Ipersonaly do not install pre-release updates
[22:26] <Daemon_> are there any issues with the ext4 filesytem on a clean install of jaunty?
[22:26] <Tacosarecool> no not that i've experienced you might not want to use it if you use acronis true imagee though
[22:27] <Tacosarecool> I tried ext4 a while back I liked it
[22:27] <DaskreeCH> Daemon_: I would say honestly yes. Are you likely to hit one probably not
[22:27] <DaskreeCH> I can't say unless I know more about how you make use of your computer but overall it should be good
[22:28] <Daemon_> DaskreeCH: just thinking of making the switch and dont know much about the ext4 system
[22:29] <DaskreeCH> Daemon_: Well then read up on it.
[22:29] <Tacosarecool> some thinks it a intrim step to brtfs
[22:29] <Daemon_> DaskreeCH: heard its faster and supports large files and such
[22:29] <DaskreeCH> Nothing beats down the issue of not knowing like seeking knowledge :)
[22:29] <DaskreeCH> Daemon_: Indeed it does
[22:31] <Daemon_> DaskreeCH: I have read up on it some but its also good to ask others of there experiences with it
[22:32] <Daemon_> DaskreeCH: But thanks for the info
[22:40] <Tacosarecool> how did most of you go about upgrading kde
[22:41] <rysiek|pl> Tacosarecool: upgrading from? to?
[22:41] <Tacosarecool> I wanna upgrade to kde 3
[22:41] <Dragnslcr> From what, KDE 2?
[22:42] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows how to patch kde2 for freebsd?
[22:42] <DaskreeCH> rysiek|pl: With ports
[22:43] <rysiek|pl> DaskreeCH: joke question: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_does_one_patch_KDE2_under_FreeBSD%3F
[22:44] <DaskreeCH> ha ha nice
[22:45] <DaskreeCH> Internet jokes FTOJW
[22:45] <DaskreeCH> !kde3 | Tacosarecool
[22:45] <Tacosarecool> no I mean 4.3
[22:45] <Tacosarecool> lol
[22:45] <Tacosarecool> !kde 4.3
[22:46] <Tacosarecool> !kde 4.2.4
[22:46] <Tacosarecool> !kde beta
[22:46] <rysiek|pl> Tacosarecool: try google, there is a good howto somewhere
[22:46] <Tacosarecool> ok
[22:46] <rysiek|pl> Tacosarecool: there's a launchpad PPA set up
[22:47] <rysiek|pl> Tacosarecool: so you just need to add some lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:47] <rysiek|pl> and aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[22:47] <DaskreeCH> Tacosarecool: Read the topic
[22:47] <DaskreeCH> also see http://kubuntu.org
[22:47] <Tacosarecool> Or i could check unsupported updates
[22:51] <deiboy> hello
[22:53] <DaskreeCH> !hi | deiboy
[22:55] <Laeborg> !multiscreen
[22:55] <Laeborg> !multi screen
[22:55] <rysiek|pl> Laeborg: kde4 does not know anything about multi screen
[22:56] <rysiek|pl> Laeborg: I am also trying to run kde4 on two different screens, FAIL
[22:56] <Laeborg> okay :/
[22:56] <Laeborg> I need one screen to focus on a terminal and the other on my desktop
[23:10] <`mandea1> Se construieşte arborele de dependenţă
[23:10] <`mandea1> Reading state information... Terminat
[23:10] <`mandea1> Următoarele pachete NOI vor fi instalate:
[23:10] <`mandea1>   sl
[23:10] <`mandea1> 0 înnoite, 1 nou instalate, 0 de şters şi 0 neînnoite.
[23:10] <FloodBotK2> `mandea1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:10] <`mandea1> Este nevoie să descărcaţi 25,3kB de arhive.
[23:11] <`mandea1> nu ma lasa sa instalez dezinstalez nimka :((
[23:12] <rysiek|pl> `mandea1: I have no idea what language you are using
[23:12] <`mandea1> sorry ....
[23:13] <rysiek|pl> `mandea1: but there has to be a correct localized ubuntu channel, like #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-es
[23:13] <`mandea1> ok thanks....
[23:14] <checkdisk> hallo
[23:15] <checkdisk> it's so many difficult to use kubuntu. i am a noob
[23:15] <BlueChili> rysiek|pl that wasn't spanish nor portuguese
[23:15] <rysiek|pl> I said I had no idea
[23:15] <rysiek|pl> those were just examples
[23:16] <BlueChili> neither I
[23:17] <rysiek|pl> Romanian?
[23:18] <BlueChili> maybe
[23:18] <BlueChili> maybe
[23:18] <rysiek|pl> google and wikipedia quite agree
[23:18] <BlueChili> it has some shared roots with spanish
[23:19] <BlueChili> then it is
[23:19] <BlueChili> Se construieşte arborele de dependenţă
[23:19] <BlueChili> se está construyendo el árbol de dependencias
[23:19] <BlueChili> (in spanish)
[23:20] <rysiek|pl> I bet protuguese and italian would be quite similar, too
[23:20] <rysiek|pl> *portuguese
[23:21] <BlueChili> portuguese wolud be the most, in some cases...
[23:21]  * rysiek|pl 's gotta eat something
[23:21] <rysiek|pl> bbl
[23:22] <BlueChili> k
[23:33] <UnluckyMike> any way to get desktop effects with nvidia xinerama?
[23:37] <BlueChili> desktop effects with xinerama, It's a no go
[23:48] <rysiek|pl> jeez, I hope kde4.4 will be a optimization-targeted release
[23:48] <purpleposeidon> What's the kernel option to keep all of the hard drives read-only?
[23:49] <rysiek|pl> ro?
[23:49] <rysiek|pl> ...I think
[23:49] <BlueChili> ro
[23:51] <purpleposeidon> I, uh, I have a bad disk. >__<
[23:53] <LadyNikon> sucks
[23:55] <Yanick_> Hi, Is there a way to make Jaunty restart properly after suspend/hibernate? Right now, the screen turns on but only to display some random pixels and everything else seems frozen. The network appears to reconnect itself and application to restart correctly but USB/keybaord and all the rest are just frozen. I have a Dell XPS 16 with Kubunty 64bit
[23:55] <Yanick_> kubuntu