[00:02] anyone here use vbox 2.2.4? [00:06] after reboot touchpad working again [00:08] yay! [00:11] is anybody else having problems with crashes when clicking on GTK combo boxes? [00:12] when was your last update? [00:12] some days ago, well, I just made one now also. Was there some recent fix? [00:16] henke: known bug [00:18] BUGabundo, i just applied a patch to the vboxnetflt module [00:18] how do i get dkms to reconfigure 2.6.31 to work? [00:19] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/virtualbox/+bug/392314 [00:19] Ubuntu bug 392314 in virtualbox-ose "vboxnetflt module fails to compile on 2.6.31-rc1 due to old the net_device api being removed." [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:19] i applied the patch from there [00:20] no === funkyHat is now known as funkybori [00:33] BUGabundo, no what? [00:33] i don't see anything related to vboxnetflt in /usr/lib/dkms [00:33] so i have to install this module for 2.6.31 right? [00:36] billybigrigger: no, I don't know [00:36] nvm [00:36] had to build the module for kernel 2.6.31, and the install it in dkms [00:36] should be golden now [00:37] brb [01:45] * BUGabundo $off ; $echo You can't off me; $sudo off; $echo ahaha you trieeeddddddzzzzzzzz === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [05:51] Anyone had their entire session crashing recently? I'm not sure what's causing it. [06:24] Hew: the most likely culprit is X itself; check /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old after the crash [06:24] if X crashed, there should be a backtrace at the bottom [06:27] Thanks crdlb. Unfortunately I can't see any backtrace in that file, or any of /var/log/Xorg* [07:24] FFForever> x randomly dies and i get a gdm login screen =( [07:24] how about your logs? [07:24] anything weird? [07:24] Xorg.0.log? [07:24] * nenolod has quit (Client Quit) [07:24] not that i can see one moment [07:24] http://pastebin.com/f1dcaea8c [07:25] looks like a similar problem, both not related to X [07:25] maybe its worth looking into? [07:25] but its late and im off to bed [07:25] check /var/log [07:26] syslog might show something [07:28] is there a way to tell if compiz is running? [07:28] robin0800: many, the best is probably 'wmctrl -m' === pod_ is now known as Guest8286 [10:21] howdy... I've upgraded to koala yesterday on my hp mini 2133... now the resolution problem is solved (was an issue on 9.04)... I've encountered a really strange thing now on koala... when I try to edit my connections to set a static IP and I start entering the host ip it will log me out instantly when I enter a "2" [10:22] so I thought I'll copy/paste the address from the terminal... but it's the same thing there... as soon as I enter "2" it will log me out, so it seems that editing the connection triggers something that makes the 2-key log out [10:25] kann mir jemand sagen, ob es möglich ist die network settings nicht per user, also system wide hinzukriegen? [10:25] also über "interfaces"? [10:35] Any particular reason GDM is being held back? [10:35] probably cause it hasnt caught up yet was what i was told. [10:38] ghindo: Because it still breaks ubuntu-desktop, via... something or other. [10:39] I have a machine I use for testing ubuntu+1. In the past, I have been advised to skip the update when a partial upgrade was offered. It has been doing that for a couple of days now. Should I keep waiting, or was the advice wrong? This is a pretty straightforward install. No added repositories, but about 100 packages added from the main repositories. [10:39] Oh, no? It doesn't seem to now. [10:39] Hrm, I'll update again and see what happens [10:40] Yeah, still being held back. [10:43] and dont do the partial update..it did bork my system...ugh:( [10:43] oldude67, thanks. I'll wait. [10:44] im still working on getting it back to norm now 3 days and it just restarts on me..so...ugh...:( [10:58] morning guys [11:01] hey everyone, hey eagles0513875 [11:01] trying out wicd like blueskaj said [11:01] so, no BT shares working, totally dead on my side [11:01] really bad recovery from hibernate OR suspend [11:01] disk won't come up [11:01] kernel bug or HW failure [11:02] :( [11:02] oh no [11:02] question how on earth do i connect to my wifi connection with wicd [11:02] pulse Flat volume is really really bad [11:02] eagles0513875: LOLOL [11:02] no idea. never used it [11:03] lol [11:03] NM works great for me [11:03] and when it doesn't I axe asac to fix it [11:03] what kinda wifi card do you have [11:03] I'm testing NM 0.8 trunk right now [11:03] that explains it [11:03] will all you kids _just_ have poor old NM 0.7.1 [11:03] the default one that comes with karmic is broken [11:03] can you link me to the nm source [11:04] I have an intel 4965 [11:04] but am connected from 3G modem [11:04] me broadcom 4311 rev2 [11:04] eagles0513875: please come to #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:04] I want to let asac know you are going to test it too [11:10] i downloaded the latest ubuntu live cd and it restarts GDM while installing [11:11] eheh [11:11] Ian__: yeah GDM seems broken [11:11] I MUST remember to NOT upgrade to it yet [11:12] yeah dont do it...its a killer..lmao..im still fighting with it. [11:12] even after trying some repairs i hit the enter key and it takes me back to the log in screen for kdm [11:14] will try with alpha 2 live cd [11:14] iirc that's before the gdm update [11:17] Ian__: no need [11:17] just downgrade it [11:17] if you still have the old file cache [11:17] oh wait... it's a fresh install [11:17] then go to LP and download the previous package [11:18] hmm [11:18] BUGabundo: it just stopped the install [11:18] so i don't even have a working system there now [11:19] grub did not install properly and stuff [11:20] ahhh [11:20] that's bad [11:20] it is [11:20] then download an older daily [11:20] you can use rsync to just get the missing parts [11:20] of your current iso image [11:21] i'm installing jaunty now so i have grub, then i can boot from karmic from my usb stick [11:22] and all will be well [11:23] ahaha [11:23] Ian__: I don't need to _install_ it [11:23] you can run from LiveCD/USB [11:24] brb reboot to test bluetooth [11:24] that's it [11:24] i can't boot from USB [11:24] bios doesn't support it [11:24] AHHAHAHHA [11:24] and i can't boot from CD because my cd writer is on my desktop [11:24] which i'm installing :p [11:24] try a BIOS upgrade? [11:24] tried it [11:24] are you sure it's a bios thing or just bad usb pen? [11:25] some need newer syslinux to work [11:25] and with --safemode install [11:25] well [11:25] brb [11:25] talk to you soon [11:31] it doesn't give me the option to select USB drive in the boot priority thing. And i can boot from the USB stick via grub just fine (root (hd2,0) chainload blabla) [11:32] ahah [11:32] are you *really* sure? [11:32] I've seen some stupid bios, that made you fake and usb device as a Disk [11:33] so essencial you would change not the order, but the disk you use [11:33] yeah nonsence [11:33] its the case of this laptop [11:33] confused me a bit too [11:34] yes i'm 100% sure :p [11:35] I'm never 100% sure, but its you not me! [11:35] :p [11:36] i've been looking for it before [11:48] will they add opera to the repos ever? [11:48] oldude67: offtopic man this is for 9.10 karmic discussion [11:48] um i was just hoping. [11:49] eagles0513875: it _could_ be ontopic *if* it was blueprinted discussion on it [11:49] which AFAIK isn't [11:49] BUGabundo: kinda offtopic is there a windows version of vbox [11:50] cuz my vmware workstation is going bonkers [11:50] ahahah [11:50] lol [11:50] pff the karmic aplha 2 live cd doesn't boot [11:50] just was wondering why thy cant add it to the repos [11:51] Ian__: it _did_ [11:51] oldude67: err close source? [11:51] ah ok BUGabundo , i see ty [11:51] BUGabundo: bad argument :p [11:51] I know [11:52] but enough to have him thinkiing about it [11:52] :p [11:52] too busy testing karmic BT stack [11:52] to loose my precouse time discussing repos [11:52] nope not thinking, drinking...was just wondering. [11:55] anyone else want to join in t? [11:55] need more ppl testing BT packages [11:56] what are BT packages? [11:56] bacon and tomatoe no lettuce...:( [11:56] Ian__: bluetooth [11:57] aha [11:58] gonna try getting it on CD [11:58] pff [11:58] hot here in belgium === _eagles0513875_ is now known as eagles0513875 [12:17] aha the CD does boot [12:30] ok weird [12:30] i installed alpha 2 and after it brings me to the desktop? [12:31] it doesn't ask me to reboot and stuf? [12:41] Ian__: why would it ask you to reboot ? [12:41] is he windows-user? :D [12:41] Tekno: LOLOLOLOLOLOL [12:52] .. [12:52] are you guys daft or something? [12:52] it's after installing the system from a liveCD [12:52] i'd like to boot my real system and not continue working on a liveCD [12:53] remove the cd from drivev then [12:53] ... [12:54] that doesn't make me run on my real system [12:55] how about restarting then? [12:56] i did, i was just wondering why it didn't ask me, along side pressing enter when i removed the disk and sruff [12:56] stuff [12:57] i had some troubles upgrading to koala too... [12:57] half of the scripts didn't finish and I had to poke around until I could trigger them to finish the install [12:58] apart from that it runs fine on my hp mini now [12:59] but I've encountered a really strange thing now on koala... when I try to edit my connections to set a static IP and I start entering the host ip it will log me out instantly when I enter a "2" [13:00] and wtf is up with --no-floppy [13:00] other numbers are fine... I ended up copy/pasting the 2s I need for my address [13:01] but karmic has not broken my system yet... in fact it has corrected some bugs... like missing cpufreq and resolution problem [13:06] Ian__: get a grip on your language please [13:06] Ian__: it may have asked you IF you want to reboot and you missed it, or it may not ask you as it assume you know you have to reboot when you are ready to, to use the real system [13:08] ikonia: my language was what it was because it was a valid question, responded by a counter question, a remark about windows and LOLOLOLOLOL [13:08] Ian__: that doesn't excuse your langage - please get a grip on it [13:08] Ian__: it may help if you give better details in your questions, so they are not miss-understood [13:09] I am missing the "Login Window" menu under administration.... does anyone can tell me how to get it (back)? [13:09] reto`: the config of it has been disabled since the GDM update [13:09] graphicly at least [13:09] until the GUI is updated alongside [13:09] ikonia: i gave enough context beforehand [13:10] Ian__: I certainly didn't see it [13:12] anyone know why /boot/grub/grub.cfg readonly is? [13:12] grub.cfg ? [13:13] you are supposed to edit /etc/default/grub instead [13:13] ok thnx [13:13] and why grub update put the correct boot lines but puts "linux ... root=/dev/sda2 ro quiet splash"? [13:14] Ian__: it should be using uuid [13:15] hmm it's not done that for the 31-1 lines, it uses uuid for 30-8 tho [13:16] Ian__: this may sound dumb, but do you also have a menu.lst ? [13:16] no [13:16] grub 2 doesn't use that anymore [13:16] ahh you're using grub 2 [13:16] ikonia: are you running karmic? [13:16] yeah [13:16] Ian__: not at this second I have it on my test system [13:16] hmm [13:17] when i do a normal boot i get all kinds of warnings, unless i edit the boot lines to hold rw and remove the --no-floppy does it boot [13:17] Ian__: hold rw ? [13:17] i mean replace the ro with rw [13:18] well that can be dagerous [13:18] the first boot is normally ro then re-mounted rw [13:18] dangerous even [13:18] is anyone using gnome do? [13:18] aha ikonia ok [13:18] Ian__: does that make sense ? [13:18] yes [13:18] super [13:19] i think _my_ problem actually is the splash [13:21] i do still get errors like "sda2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240)" [13:21] but at least it boots [13:22] I'm still very surprised it's not referenced from uuid [13:23] hmm [13:23] sec [13:28] it has more then what i just showed [13:28] above that stands uuid stuff [13:36] fd0 is floppy drive? :p [13:38] yep [13:38] grub2 ? [13:39] yeah [13:39] i booted with ati drivers installed now [13:39] i have (slow) 2D support but no 3d [13:39] i'm surprised 2d works with this kernel :p === funkybori is now known as funkyHat [13:46] weird that karmic doens't hold firefox-3.5 [13:46] well i mean as default firefox [13:47] really? [13:47] so what ar they bundling? [13:47] konqueror? [13:47] no just firefox3.1 [13:47] sorry net is a bit slow here [13:47] can't be [13:47] its not in the archive [13:48] huh? [13:48] well default karmic still comes with the version lower then 3.5 :p [13:48] Ian__: $ apt-cache policy firefox-3.1 [13:48] and [13:48] you can apt-get 3.5 but have to specify the version number [13:48] Ian__: $ apt-cache policy firefox-3.5 [13:49] oh wait this is not the daily LiveCD === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [13:50] the whole install flash for firefox is still a bit clumsy [13:53] yeah [13:55] oh goodie.... PA lost my analog devices and only sees digital ones. result: No sound [13:56] PA being? [14:02] Pulse Audio [14:02] Ian__: new around here? [14:02] i'm not familiar with the abrivations :) [14:05] feel free to ask anytime === Ian__ is now known as Ian_Corne [14:29] is Eclipse 3.5 available in Karmic ? [14:30] !info eclipse [14:30] doubt it [14:30] eclipse (source: eclipse): Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-5ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 126 kB, installed size 420 kB [14:30] Dimitree: ^^^ [14:30] there's a PPA with trunk version [14:30] jesus christ this package is never updated :/ [14:31] nope :\ [14:42] Hi folks [14:43] hey guilty one :p [14:44] hi BUGabundo ...guilty ? [14:45] who's guilty of what ? [14:48] ahaah [14:48] you soon will find [14:56] hi folks [14:59] hey yofel [15:08] hey BUGabundo [15:08] !info tracker [15:08] tracker (source: tracker): metadata database, indexer and search tool. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.95-1ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 490 kB, installed size 3032 kB [15:09] * BUGabundo has removed tracker [15:09] hey tgpraveen [15:10] why did u remove tracker? coz it was resource intensive? [15:11] i tried tracker long back in intrepid as i was trying to mimic the best of mac and win features, so i enabled tracker,screenlets,themes,etc,etc. but then the excitement faded and i removed it all to have a lean system again. [15:12] i guess i might give the 0.7 version a try. any one knows if it will be in karmic? [15:13] that's the thing [15:13] I think its no longer part of default instal [15:13] ense optional [15:18] yes it is no longer in default install from jaunty and even before though it was on cd it was disabled by default [15:19] but just now i read a post describing 0.7 version and what all features it will have and how it will use very little resources hope it makes it back in karmic+1. i think the tracker devs are trying to improve a lot in time for gnome 3.0 [15:19] I'll be here waiting for it [15:22] tgpraveen: could you give me the link to the post? I remember tracker as that indexing tool that I immediatly killed since it reminded me of the windows indexing that I never managed to disable ^^ [15:24] http://jamiemcc.livejournal.com/12367.html [15:24] nice... opening a sftp:// url in nautilus crashes it -.- [15:24] yofel: ^^ [15:24] tgpraveen: thx [15:26] sounds interesting :) [15:27] anyone get random freezes/crashes/reboots with karmic? [15:29] random reboots? [15:29] never had that [15:29] yes [15:29] oh [15:29] i didnt have it in 9.04 first, then i got it in 9.04 after, maybe cuz i have proposed repo enabled, idk.. so i upgarded to 9.10 but now i still have it [15:29] i had random freezes with jaunty, in karmic they're gone [15:30] oh [15:30] why http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha3 is not there? [15:31] miik: because we still have alpha2? [15:31] miik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule [15:31] oh, sorry i saw wrong date [15:31] i thought it was august 6 lol [15:31] or something [15:34] when is new gdm come in karmic? [15:34] its been there for liek days [15:34] but it cant install if not fast-user thing come new [15:37] Im, getting lots of plasma crashes , usually when I close a webpage or an app [15:39] takes about 10secs to recover [15:39] BluesKaj: u use kde? how is it these days. i tried kde 4.1 and then rushed back to gnome [15:39] is it better now [15:40] kde4.3...I guess I'm too bleeding edge [15:40] !info plasma [15:40] Package plasma does not exist in karmic [15:41] BluesKaj: not enough to run karmic dough [15:41] konqueror renders web pages more fully than FF3.6 [15:41] also if u run gnome apps in it . do they run well ? or do they lag and look out of place? [15:42] hmm, not plasma ? wth [15:42] theonly gnome app i run is synaptic , once in a while [15:43] if it isn't plasma then what's all this widgetr? [15:47] i certainly have several plasma executeables in /usr/bin [15:48] carry over from jaunty i reckon [15:50] BluesKaj: there's plasma-* packages [15:50] just not any plasma packages [15:50] !info plasma- [15:50] Package plasma- does not exist in karmic [15:50] !info plasma-* [15:50] Package plasma- does not exist in karmic [15:50] !find plasma [15:50] Found: kdebase-plasma, kdelibs5-dev, kdeplasma-addons, kdeplasma-addons-dbg, libplasma3 (and 60 others) [15:51] aha :) [15:51] apt-cache search plasma will list them all [15:52] hey [15:52] hey kellyh [15:53] BUGabundo: using nvidia 180 drivers [15:55] hey so its you [15:55] ahah [15:55] you are to fast for me :) [15:55] LOL [15:55] guys help out kellyh here [15:55] she is having trouble getting mainline kernels and nvidia working [15:56] all kernels from mainline above .29.3 fail, exit status 10 iirc for the nvidia-drivers [15:57] let me get one of those... [15:57] its very strange [15:57] usually its missing the headers [15:57] but you say you have them [15:58] (using amd64 btw) [15:58] very stupid question: [15:58] yep, installed the headers [15:58] kellyh: you have all 4 debs in a folder [15:58] and instaled using: [15:58] $ sudo dpkg -i linux*.deb ? [15:58] used dpkg -i ... [15:58] ahh [15:58] precedencies [15:58] ahahaha [15:59] try * [15:59] kellyh: what kernel version do you have now? [15:59] not the 1st time I saw dpkg get tricked by that [15:59] running .29.3 mainline [15:59] hmm [15:59] ok, to you *need* mainline? [15:59] not especially i guess [16:00] eheh [16:00] ok, so you wont _die_ without it [16:00] just putting a priority on stuff [16:00] nope :) [16:00] kellyh: running karmic or jaunty ? [16:00] but, as i hit a problem, figured i'd mention it [16:00] * BUGabundo wispers 'cause this # is karmic only [16:00] jaunty [16:01] BUGabundo: i realise that :) [16:01] kellyh: mainline kernel images are usually for testing, immediate fixing probs on older kernel [16:01] and helping compare our kernel sauce with the vanila ones [16:02] ah [16:02] users testing them, should usually report that they fix something (or break, like you did) [16:03] yofel: having trouble with them? [16:03] kellyh: AFAIK you are the first experiencing this on jauntu [16:03] *jaunty [16:03] doesn't mean there's a prob dough! [16:04] mainline kernel are so volatile, and specially with nvidia drivers... [16:04] yofel: having trouble with them? [16:04] kellyh: did you try -31.fix ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:04] why don't you use the jockey-gtk thingy kellyh ? [16:04]