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high-rezHey guys - i'm seeing a problem with ext3 on ARM.  I'm not sure if its hardware or software - but under heavy load I'm getting FS corruption06:10
Martynhigh-rez : can you categorize the corruption?06:22
MartynAre you seeing this on the Jaunty Jackalope ARM kernel?06:22
Martyncategorize/quantify06:22
high-rezCorrect, jaunty.  Essentially under heavy IO load things start to go bad.  I ran fsck -y against it and everything was lost :)06:23
high-rezthe problem is i don't know how to tell if this is a hardware issue or a software issue.  :(06:23
MartynWhat steps are needed to reproduce this?  Have you dialed it in so that it's repeatable/06:23
Martynwhat platform are you running on?  Babbage?  Beagle?  Other?06:24
high-rezMartyn: I'm trying again.  I think I should be able to repro06:24
MartynWhat's the platform?06:24
high-rezBeagleboard06:24
high-rezUsing an external USB HD (laptop hd connected via a usb converter)06:24
MartynC3?06:25
MartynB7?06:25
MartynC2?06:25
high-rezC.... Let me see which06:25
high-rezC2 pretty sure06:25
Martynusing USB OTG then06:25
Martynthere's a known issue on usb-storage on that platform06:25
high-rezc206:25
MartynYou can't be using the stock kernel either then .. you're using a specific Beagle kernel06:26
Martynwhich wasn't distributed with Jaunty (since Jaunty was packaged for Babbage board, but not Beagle)06:26
high-rezI believe I am using a beagle specific kernel:  beagleboard 2.6.29-oer3406:26
MartynRight, but it's not from the Ubuntu distribution, is what I'm pointing at06:26
Martynthere are no official Beagle builds on launchpad .. yet.06:27
high-rezSo I'm using the larger USB port, not the smaller one (which I believe is the OTG port)06:27
high-rezGotcha06:27
MartynThe C2 USB port is suspect06:27
Martynthe C3 USB port is known good06:27
high-rezOuch :(06:27
MartynThe B7 main USB port was depopulated06:27
Martyn(for that very reason)06:27
MartynSo, it's the underlying USB driver, not the ext3 (or other FS) driver that's likely causing your issue06:28
high-rezIs this a pure hardware issue or do you think a software workaround will be possible ?06:28
MartynI saw similar "lost and dazed" corruption when I was doing USB ethernet on a C206:28
high-rezUnderstood, and also understood that it's not likely an ubuntu specific issue.06:28
MartynI don't think anyone's going to bother with a software workaround for the issue06:28
high-rezYeah.. I've been a bit suspect of this usb port for a bit.06:29
MartynAll the development work for Ubuntu right now is concentrated on the Babbage 2, which is the precursor of the new ARM based netbooks06:29
MartynI'm working on the Arm Cortex-A9, which is the multi-core ARM chip06:29
high-rezInteresting.  I've played a bit with a cortex based system and linux (android on the htc toch pro)06:30
MartynSo there's more work going into the Freescale i.mx51 chip than the OMAP3 + Beagleboard06:30
high-rezIs OMAP3 not considered to be a big contender for next generation netbooks?06:30
MartynThat pretty little beagle of yours is also a Cortex-A806:30
Martynnot really.  It lacks a lot of support for very basic things netbooks need.06:31
MartynLike Ethernet06:31
high-rezYeah, the lack of ethernet is a bit of a bummer.06:31
MartynWhich is why you don't see an ethernet adapter on the Beagleboard (it would cost an extra chip)06:31
MartynAlthough it's possible the C4 or C5 will have one, since the next generation of OMAP3 chips may integrate an ethernet MAC06:31
high-rezFor which there is no space.  :)  It's a neat demo "look a whole computer on a board" lacking some modern essentials.06:31
Martyn(but not a PHY)06:32
high-rezGood info, thanks man06:33
high-rezI like seeing how many packages you guys have built for arm06:33
high-rezIf my FS hadn't corrupted I guess I'd probably be running right now with gnome on it :)06:33
L84Supperanyone here run into the qreal=double vs float issue with Qt4 for ARM?  I have x86 source littered with thousands of doubles vs float.21:55
L84Supperis Ubuntu-ARM mainly aimed at OMAP and iMX?21:59
armin76L84Supper: s/OMAP//22:23
armin76well s/OMAP and// :P22:24
L84Supperhave you heard what the Freescale iMX netbook are planning on using for a Linux distro?22:25
armin76nope22:25
L84SupperI'm working with those and Samsung S3C2440 ARM922:26
L84Supperwaiting for the OMAP 4xxx22:27
L84Supperwhat's everyone using for OMAP boards? beaglboard?22:28

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