| billybigrigger | i have a few questions im hoping someone from this channel can answer... | 00:02 |
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| billybigrigger | with the new 2.6.31 kernel, vbox 2.2.4 and its networking module has quit working...now i see that vobx 3.0 was released to debian testing | 00:03 |
| billybigrigger | what are the odds i will see a vbox 3.0 package in repos within the next few days, and if not for a long time, is anyone working on a patch or workaround? | 00:03 |
| billybigrigger | i've been digging around and can't seem to come up with a solution, short of downloading 3.0 from vbox's site, but i'd rather run software from the repos only | 00:04 |
| Sarvatt | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/virtualbox/+bug/392314 | 00:06 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 392314 in virtualbox-ose "vboxnetflt module fails to compile on 2.6.31-rc1 due to old the net_device api being removed." [Undecided,Confirmed] | 00:06 |
| billybigrigger | no wonder searching for virtualbox didn't return that :P | 00:08 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, thanks a bunch | 00:08 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, ok it says fix released, would that be the patch included in that bug page? | 00:10 |
| billybigrigger | or is there a fix coming in my updates | 00:10 |
| billybigrigger | ? | 00:10 |
| Sarvatt | it says fixed release for the upstream bug, the fix being the svn commit for 2.2.4 thats also in 3.0 | 00:11 |
| billybigrigger | ok | 00:12 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, its been awhile since i patched something | 00:12 |
| Sarvatt | just save the patch in the bug to your /usr/src/vboxnetflt-2.2.4/ directory and patch -p1 < whatever.patch | 00:12 |
| billybigrigger | patch -p1 > VBoxNetFlt-linux.c | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | ??? | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | oh | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | ok | 00:13 |
| Sarvatt | patch -p1 < patchname.patch | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | just have to save it in the dir | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | gotcha :P | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | thanks | 00:13 |
| billybigrigger | billybigrigger@cabo:/usr/src/vboxnetflt-2.2.4/linux$ patch -p1 < net_device-2.6.31.patch | 00:16 |
| billybigrigger | can't find file to patch at input line 4 | 00:16 |
| billybigrigger | Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? | 00:16 |
| billybigrigger | nvm | 00:17 |
| billybigrigger | i guess it patched | 00:17 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, now i have to get dkms to reconfigure the module right? | 00:17 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, or am i supposed to be patching dkms? | 00:22 |
| billybigrigger | Sarvatt, ping | 01:07 |
| Sarvatt | ? | 01:07 |
| billybigrigger | i applied that patch, and build the network driver with dkms and installed it, rebooted the system and im still getting the same errors | 01:07 |
| billybigrigger | i know this isn't a support chan...but you seem to be the only guy awake in the last few hours | 01:08 |
| Sarvatt | no idea then, i'm sorry man :( | 01:08 |
| billybigrigger | k no prob | 01:08 |
| billybigrigger | stupid stupid | 01:09 |
| billybigrigger | booted the wrong kernel | 01:09 |
| billybigrigger | haha | 01:09 |
| billybigrigger | and am i missing something or can you not restart the system from gnome anymore? | 01:11 |
| billybigrigger | you have to logout back to gdm, and restart from there? | 01:11 |
| billybigrigger | bug or feature? | 01:11 |
| ion | The System menu | 01:12 |
| billybigrigger | nope | 01:12 |
| ion | Upgrade and re-login | 01:13 |
| bk | I have a question, and this is kind of advertisement but not intended to be as its part of the question. | 01:57 |
| bk | Im apart of a site called amahi, amahi.org, and we run a "home server software" ontop of distrobutions, currently the only one we have this working on is Fedora, and are working on a ubuntu version along with others. I dont know if any of the developers that are apart of ubuntu would like to help on this or not but its worth a shot to ask. Would any of the developers happen to be able to help out in getting amahi to work on dist | 01:59 |
| bk | I am also sorry if I broke any rules or if this is not the place to ask this question. | 02:01 |
| CarlFK | bk: this sounds more like you need a bunch of packages ... | 02:03 |
| CarlFK | I am looking at http://www.amahi.org/apps | 02:03 |
| bk | CarlFK: no, not applications, those are oneclicks | 02:03 |
| bk | we can handle that | 02:03 |
| bk | just to get amahi itself working on ubuntu | 02:03 |
| bk | its more a home server solution for the end user | 02:04 |
| CarlFK | im not seeing what "amahi" is then - kinda makes me think "linux distro" | 02:04 |
| ion | “We default to using home.com for your home DNS domain. That means your machines at home will be part of this DNS domain.” Ew, EBW! | 02:04 |
| bk | CarlFK: honestly, it kindof is, but it runs ontop of other distros (atm fedora) | 02:04 |
| CarlFK | bk: it is sounding like a package. | 02:06 |
| bk | it is, you install the distro, then install amahi | 02:06 |
| bk | basically we need to change amahi to work with fedora | 02:06 |
| bk | oops | 02:06 |
| bk | ubuntu | 02:06 |
| CarlFK | ah... I bet you want #ubuntu-moto (packaging chatter) | 02:06 |
| CarlFK | this #chan is more for what ubuntu is, not what runs on it. you 'might' get some interest, cuz it is a nice project... but that would be pulling people away from ubuntu, which would make me grumpy :) | 02:09 |
| bk | CarlFK: ahh ok, im sorry then, I dont want to pull anyone away from ubuntu, I would just really love to see this running on ubuntu (i dont particularly like fedora, always been a ubuntu lover) | 02:10 |
| wasabi | I don't think you've really explained what it is, anyways. | 02:11 |
| wasabi | Looks like a bunch of applications, some of which are already available in Ubuntu. | 02:11 |
| bk | wasabi: its a home server software for the end users. Web based applications, Ease of shares with different users in a household, backup solutions (from files to bare metal) and other sorts of things, can make it into a web server if wanted, mail server, etc. But easily for the non experienced users. | 02:12 |
| wasabi | Heh. And some of the package descriptions on your site are the exact same as the ones in apt. | 02:12 |
| wasabi | So is it any unique code, or just a bunch of software repackaged? | 02:13 |
| bk | wasabi: as well as in yum | 02:13 |
| bk | unique code | 02:13 |
| wasabi | Not open, or? | 02:13 |
| bk | yes, opensource | 02:14 |
| geofft | it sounds like amahi is a couple of packages that depend on other packages from the distro (currently Fedora)? | 02:14 |
| wasabi | So is it just a UI to install packages that already exist? | 02:15 |
| wasabi | That's the question I'm trying to get at. | 02:15 |
| wasabi | "What is it?" | 02:15 |
| bk | wasabi: i stated what it is above | 02:15 |
| bk | for the users that use WHS, they can use this as easy as that | 02:15 |
| bk | WHS=windows home server | 02:16 |
| wasabi | You stated what it is from a marketing perspective. | 02:16 |
| wasabi | Not from a perspective one might expect to require when helping you figure out how to package it. | 02:16 |
| bk | Well, its written in ruby if that helps, im not really the maker, just the outer shell, i really wanted to see if this is the right place | 02:17 |
| bk | there are about 4-5 users that work on the code currently | 02:17 |
| wasabi | Oh. Well. Probably -motu is better then. | 02:17 |
| wasabi | But they'll ask the same questions I did. | 02:17 |
| bk | k | 02:17 |
| geofft | I still haven't figured out what it is, but my ears perked up because it sounds kind of like what we're doing at MIT, for adding to existing packages | 02:17 |
| geofft | take a look at http://debathena.mit.edu/ - if that concept sounds like what Amahi is, I can point you at hoe we did it | 02:17 |
| wasabi | geofft, from the ONE screen shot I can find on the Wiki, it looks like a web-ui that sets up various apps. | 02:18 |
| wasabi | Like ebox. | 02:18 |
| bk | geofft: no, the packages are "one click apps" where you go to say http://apps in the browser, it shows that list of apps, you click install, then its done, then you go to http://appname and it takes you to that application | 02:18 |
| bk | you can use it anywhere in your home or if your vpn'd into your home, you can use it away as well | 02:18 |
| geofft | If it involves adding configuration on top of existing Ubuntu packages, then some (a little) of our setup might help | 02:19 |
| geofft | but obviously we don't have this web installer thing | 02:19 |
| wasabi | Web installer thing already exists: apt:// or something | 02:19 |
| bk | ok | 02:19 |
| bk | amahi installs like LAMP does | 02:19 |
| bk | installs ruby, pearl etc as well | 02:19 |
| geofft | LAMP on Ubuntu (and Fedora) is just installing the Apache, MySQL, and PHP packages. | 02:19 |
| wasabi | So vague. | 02:20 |
| bk | yes | 02:20 |
| bk | its like a web serverr | 02:20 |
| bk | but more user friendly? | 02:20 |
| bk | if that makes since | 02:20 |
| wasabi | I'm guessing you don't know much about it technically? | 02:20 |
| geofft | if you get someone with a better understanding of the code to show up, we can probably help more :-) | 02:20 |
| bk | the user does not have to worry about setting up mysql passwords and databases, along with other things | 02:21 |
| bk | I can send the guy for this part on over, send him to #ubuntu-motu? | 02:21 |
| wasabi | Does that guy have any questions, or do you? | 02:21 |
| bk | he will have more than i will | 02:22 |
| bk | i know that centos devel was not particularly interested in helping us | 02:22 |
| bk | wanted to make sure before we came on over | 02:22 |
| wasabi | Well, without a question to be asked, there's not much anybody can do to help you. | 02:22 |
| bk | well ok | 02:23 |
| bk | thanks for your time, he might drop into motu to ask random questions about bigger things if needed | 02:24 |
| CarlFK | that was odd | 02:27 |
| CarlFK | makes me feel better about my OT questions :) | 02:27 |
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| FFForever | whats up with gnome/gdm/xorg?, they keep dieing =(, and something about gnome/gdm having a login issue about starting something | 06:18 |
| billybigrigger | gdm-simple-greeter | 06:18 |
| billybigrigger | or something like that? i get that error upon login | 06:19 |
| FFForever | yeah | 06:19 |
| billybigrigger | yeah i don't know what thats about either | 06:19 |
| FFForever | do u get x dieing randomly while typing? | 06:20 |
| billybigrigger | nope | 06:23 |
| billybigrigger | what do you mean? | 06:23 |
| FFForever | x randomly dies and i get a gdm login screen =( | 06:24 |
| billybigrigger | oh kicks you right back to gdm? | 06:24 |
| billybigrigger | how about your logs? | 06:25 |
| billybigrigger | anything weird? | 06:26 |
| billybigrigger | Xorg.0.log? | 06:26 |
| FFForever | not that i can see one moment | 06:29 |
| FFForever | http://pastebin.com/f1dcaea8c | 06:29 |
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| pitti | ogra: sure, feel free to commit it | 10:28 |
| jono | pitti, ping? | 10:40 |
| pitti | hi jono | 10:41 |
| jono | pitti, hey, actually Rick S is going to ping you | 10:41 |
| jono | something regarding some Python bindings for CouchDB | 10:41 |
| reknol | hi | 10:51 |
| reknol | wont ubuntu handle '? | 10:51 |
| reknol | such as find . -name '*.txt' -exec ls -R '{}' ';' | 10:51 |
| reknol | will ubuntu handle the ' | 10:51 |
| maxb | reknol: that's a support question, not development one. please respect the topic of the channel. Try #ubuntu | 11:03 |
| reknol | k | 11:04 |
| reknol | thx | 11:04 |
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| mnabil_ | hello guys , i 'm writing ubuntu install preseed file , my question is how can i add a tasksel ( new one ) like server,standard ....etc. say i wanna add a task called mnabil . any idea how can i do that ? | 15:28 |
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| mnabil_ | guys how can the install cd use tasksel, what is the name of the packages (udeb) ? | 16:11 |
| * cody-somerville has fell victim to the GDM-doesn't-start-anymore bug. doh. | 16:15 | |
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| yacoob | Hello. Do you know of any existing efforts to create ubuntu build environment under OSX? | 17:40 |
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| EvanCarroll | as in, a simple chroot? | 18:19 |
| silidan1 | what else besides the files in hom dir .asoundrc and company, and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , do affekt the routing of audio on ubuntu? | 18:55 |
| silidan1 | what else besides the files in hom dir .asoundrc and company, and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , do affekt the routing of audio on ubuntu 9.04? | 18:57 |
| dtchen | silidan1: the only files that affect audio routing by default in Ubuntu are /usr/share/alsa/pulse*.conf. the module-init-tools file does not actually affect it. | 18:57 |
| silidan1 | did you know that setting audio out trough system->settings->sound doesnt affekt ubuntus theme sound output? | 18:58 |
| dtchen | silidan1: it's a known issue for 9.04 and won't be resolved in that release. | 18:59 |
| silidan1 | :O | 18:59 |
| silidan1 | so i should upgrade to 9.10 ? | 18:59 |
| dtchen | silidan1: you do not need to unless you want tightly integrated GNOME controls. you can install and use pavucontrol. | 19:00 |
| silidan1 | nope i cant it only reports -5 no driver or so | 19:01 |
| dtchen | silidan1: if you need assistance, that's more appropriate in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-audio-help | 19:01 |
| silidan1 | lol | 19:01 |
| silidan1 | noone could help me there | 19:02 |
| dtchen | "there" meaning the former? i don't see any remarks from your nickname in the latter. | 19:02 |
| silidan1 | the former | 19:02 |
| silidan1 | will ask in ubuntu audio thanks for the hint | 19:03 |
| ryanprior | When is the toolchain freeze for Karmic? We've got a GCC 4.4 regression that we're trying to pin down, and it would be great if we could get a patch in to Karmic's toolchain instead of having to patch around the bug upstream. | 20:40 |
| maxb | ryanprior: I've never heard of Ubuntu having a specific seperate freeze for toolchain | 20:53 |
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| billybigrigger | can someone explain to me maybe why webcam quit working in 2.6.31? or if this is a known issue? i can't seem to find any info on the topic | 21:46 |
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| balloooza | hi, dose anyone here know how to get the kernel source to compile (or install I guess) the vmware server (2.0.0) on jaunty, the kernel-source-devel appears to be gone | 23:09 |
| c_korn | balloooza: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kernel-image you mean that? | 23:12 |
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| balloooza | c_korn: that says debian installer, is that right | 23:14 |
| balloooza | c_korn: there is no such package for jaunty | 23:15 |
| c_korn | balloooza: a kernel for which architecture are you looking for? debian installer is correct because ubuntu uses the debian package format .deb | 23:18 |
| ajmitch | c_korn: usually for something like vmware, just the headers for the current running kernel are used | 23:18 |
| balloooza | I think I found it, ubuntu-headers-genaric | 23:18 |
| mrooney | dtchen: any ideas on how I might debug HDMI audio intermittently cutting out on Karmic? | 23:46 |
| mrooney | it seems to drop a split-second once or twice a minute, though it continues to play through the laptop speakers just fine | 23:48 |
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| directhex | ooh, i wonder if karmic will give me working hdmi audio | 23:49 |
| TheMuso | directhex: Possibly, since 2.6.31 pretty much has the latest alsa code available. | 23:50 |
| TheMuso | directhex: However, only 2 channel PCM is possible currently, no AC3/7.1 PCM etc is possible. | 23:51 |
| directhex | TheMuso, that'd be a start | 23:51 |
| mrooney | directhex: it is working fine for me in Jaunty, this is actually a regression | 23:52 |
| directhex | i get nothin' on my server box | 23:53 |
| directhex | nvidia audio... | 23:53 |
| mrooney | also I should file a papercut bug to rename the IEC958 switch to something more discoverable and enable visibility of it by default | 23:53 |
| ajmitch | directhex: a server with hdmi audio? | 23:53 |
| mrooney | otherwise almost no one is going to figure it out | 23:54 |
| directhex | ajmitch, well, until i can afford a mythfrontend, it does that job too | 23:54 |
| mrooney | any tips on a good initial package for the bug? pulseaudio? nvidia-glx-180? | 23:54 |
| TheMuso | mrooney: thats a rather difficult thing to do, rename the IEC control. | 23:55 |
| * ajmitch doubts it'd be anyway related to nvidia-glx-180 | 23:55 | |
| TheMuso | mrooney: Probably alsa-lib, but maybe at the kernel level as well. But please bare in mind taht if its renamed, it will brea a lot of bits/. | 23:55 |
| mrooney | really? you can't just change the name in the volume control to anything? | 23:55 |
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| TheMuso | mrooney: We could make the change somehow in the UI, but not in alsamixer, and by UI I mean GTK/QT. | 23:56 |
| ajmitch | there'd probably need to be some set of mappings from hardware names to user-friendly names for the volume controls | 23:56 |
| mrooney | yeah | 23:56 |
| mrooney | I just mean rename it in the UI so a remotely normal person can figure out that they should enable it to get digital audio | 23:56 |
| mrooney | currently the switch is even hidden by default | 23:56 |
| TheMuso | mrooney: Right, you want to look at gnome-media then, although teh gnome-volume-control appet uses gstreamer, so you will have to see hwo those too communicate device volume controls. | 23:57 |
| TheMuso | As for KDE, I don't know. | 23:57 |
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