[00:02] i have a few questions im hoping someone from this channel can answer... [00:03] with the new 2.6.31 kernel, vbox 2.2.4 and its networking module has quit working...now i see that vobx 3.0 was released to debian testing [00:03] what are the odds i will see a vbox 3.0 package in repos within the next few days, and if not for a long time, is anyone working on a patch or workaround? [00:04] i've been digging around and can't seem to come up with a solution, short of downloading 3.0 from vbox's site, but i'd rather run software from the repos only [00:06] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/virtualbox/+bug/392314 [00:06] Ubuntu bug 392314 in virtualbox-ose "vboxnetflt module fails to compile on 2.6.31-rc1 due to old the net_device api being removed." [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:08] no wonder searching for virtualbox didn't return that :P [00:08] Sarvatt, thanks a bunch [00:10] Sarvatt, ok it says fix released, would that be the patch included in that bug page? [00:10] or is there a fix coming in my updates [00:10] ? [00:11] it says fixed release for the upstream bug, the fix being the svn commit for 2.2.4 thats also in 3.0 [00:12] ok [00:12] Sarvatt, its been awhile since i patched something [00:12] just save the patch in the bug to your /usr/src/vboxnetflt-2.2.4/ directory and patch -p1 < whatever.patch [00:13] patch -p1 > VBoxNetFlt-linux.c [00:13] ??? [00:13] oh [00:13] ok [00:13] patch -p1 < patchname.patch [00:13] just have to save it in the dir [00:13] gotcha :P [00:13] thanks [00:16] billybigrigger@cabo:/usr/src/vboxnetflt-2.2.4/linux$ patch -p1 < net_device-2.6.31.patch [00:16] can't find file to patch at input line 4 [00:16] Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? [00:17] nvm [00:17] i guess it patched [00:17] Sarvatt, now i have to get dkms to reconfigure the module right? [00:22] Sarvatt, or am i supposed to be patching dkms? [01:07] Sarvatt, ping [01:07] ? [01:07] i applied that patch, and build the network driver with dkms and installed it, rebooted the system and im still getting the same errors [01:08] i know this isn't a support chan...but you seem to be the only guy awake in the last few hours [01:08] no idea then, i'm sorry man :( [01:08] k no prob [01:09] stupid stupid [01:09] booted the wrong kernel [01:09] haha [01:11] and am i missing something or can you not restart the system from gnome anymore? [01:11] you have to logout back to gdm, and restart from there? [01:11] bug or feature? [01:12] The System menu [01:12] nope [01:13] Upgrade and re-login [01:57] I have a question, and this is kind of advertisement but not intended to be as its part of the question. [01:59] Im apart of a site called amahi, amahi.org, and we run a "home server software" ontop of distrobutions, currently the only one we have this working on is Fedora, and are working on a ubuntu version along with others. I dont know if any of the developers that are apart of ubuntu would like to help on this or not but its worth a shot to ask. Would any of the developers happen to be able to help out in getting amahi to work on dist [02:01] I am also sorry if I broke any rules or if this is not the place to ask this question. [02:03] bk: this sounds more like you need a bunch of packages ... [02:03] I am looking at http://www.amahi.org/apps [02:03] CarlFK: no, not applications, those are oneclicks [02:03] we can handle that [02:03] just to get amahi itself working on ubuntu [02:04] its more a home server solution for the end user [02:04] im not seeing what "amahi" is then - kinda makes me think "linux distro" [02:04] “We default to using home.com for your home DNS domain. That means your machines at home will be part of this DNS domain.” Ew, EBW! [02:04] CarlFK: honestly, it kindof is, but it runs ontop of other distros (atm fedora) [02:06] bk: it is sounding like a package. [02:06] it is, you install the distro, then install amahi [02:06] basically we need to change amahi to work with fedora [02:06] oops [02:06] ubuntu [02:06] ah... I bet you want #ubuntu-moto (packaging chatter) [02:09] this #chan is more for what ubuntu is, not what runs on it. you 'might' get some interest, cuz it is a nice project... but that would be pulling people away from ubuntu, which would make me grumpy :) [02:10] CarlFK: ahh ok, im sorry then, I dont want to pull anyone away from ubuntu, I would just really love to see this running on ubuntu (i dont particularly like fedora, always been a ubuntu lover) [02:11] I don't think you've really explained what it is, anyways. [02:11] Looks like a bunch of applications, some of which are already available in Ubuntu. [02:12] wasabi: its a home server software for the end users. Web based applications, Ease of shares with different users in a household, backup solutions (from files to bare metal) and other sorts of things, can make it into a web server if wanted, mail server, etc. But easily for the non experienced users. [02:12] Heh. And some of the package descriptions on your site are the exact same as the ones in apt. [02:13] So is it any unique code, or just a bunch of software repackaged? [02:13] wasabi: as well as in yum [02:13] unique code [02:13] Not open, or? [02:14] yes, opensource [02:14] it sounds like amahi is a couple of packages that depend on other packages from the distro (currently Fedora)? [02:15] So is it just a UI to install packages that already exist? [02:15] That's the question I'm trying to get at. [02:15] "What is it?" [02:15] wasabi: i stated what it is above [02:15] for the users that use WHS, they can use this as easy as that [02:16] WHS=windows home server [02:16] You stated what it is from a marketing perspective. [02:16] Not from a perspective one might expect to require when helping you figure out how to package it. [02:17] Well, its written in ruby if that helps, im not really the maker, just the outer shell, i really wanted to see if this is the right place [02:17] there are about 4-5 users that work on the code currently [02:17] Oh. Well. Probably -motu is better then. [02:17] But they'll ask the same questions I did. [02:17] k [02:17] I still haven't figured out what it is, but my ears perked up because it sounds kind of like what we're doing at MIT, for adding to existing packages [02:17] take a look at http://debathena.mit.edu/ - if that concept sounds like what Amahi is, I can point you at hoe we did it [02:18] geofft, from the ONE screen shot I can find on the Wiki, it looks like a web-ui that sets up various apps. [02:18] Like ebox. [02:18] geofft: no, the packages are "one click apps" where you go to say http://apps in the browser, it shows that list of apps, you click install, then its done, then you go to http://appname and it takes you to that application [02:18] you can use it anywhere in your home or if your vpn'd into your home, you can use it away as well [02:19] If it involves adding configuration on top of existing Ubuntu packages, then some (a little) of our setup might help [02:19] but obviously we don't have this web installer thing [02:19] Web installer thing already exists: apt:// or something [02:19] ok [02:19] amahi installs like LAMP does [02:19] installs ruby, pearl etc as well [02:19] LAMP on Ubuntu (and Fedora) is just installing the Apache, MySQL, and PHP packages. [02:20] So vague. [02:20] yes [02:20] its like a web serverr [02:20] but more user friendly? [02:20] if that makes since [02:20] I'm guessing you don't know much about it technically? [02:20] if you get someone with a better understanding of the code to show up, we can probably help more :-) [02:21] the user does not have to worry about setting up mysql passwords and databases, along with other things [02:21] I can send the guy for this part on over, send him to #ubuntu-motu? [02:21] Does that guy have any questions, or do you? [02:22] he will have more than i will [02:22] i know that centos devel was not particularly interested in helping us [02:22] wanted to make sure before we came on over [02:22] Well, without a question to be asked, there's not much anybody can do to help you. [02:23] well ok [02:24] thanks for your time, he might drop into motu to ask random questions about bigger things if needed [02:27] that was odd [02:27] makes me feel better about my OT questions :) === tkamppeter__ is now known as tkamppeter === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [06:18] whats up with gnome/gdm/xorg?, they keep dieing =(, and something about gnome/gdm having a login issue about starting something [06:18] gdm-simple-greeter [06:19] or something like that? i get that error upon login [06:19] yeah [06:19] yeah i don't know what thats about either [06:20] do u get x dieing randomly while typing? [06:23] nope [06:23] what do you mean? [06:24] x randomly dies and i get a gdm login screen =( [06:24] oh kicks you right back to gdm? [06:25] how about your logs? [06:26] anything weird? [06:26] Xorg.0.log? [06:29] not that i can see one moment [06:29] http://pastebin.com/f1dcaea8c [06:30] * FFForever loves pastebinit === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away === asac_ is now known as asac [10:28] ogra: sure, feel free to commit it [10:40] pitti, ping? [10:41] hi jono [10:41] pitti, hey, actually Rick S is going to ping you [10:41] something regarding some Python bindings for CouchDB [10:51] hi [10:51] wont ubuntu handle '? [10:51] such as find . -name '*.txt' -exec ls -R '{}' ';' [10:51] will ubuntu handle the ' [11:03] reknol: that's a support question, not development one. please respect the topic of the channel. Try #ubuntu [11:04] k [11:04] thx === azeem_ is now known as azeem === gigabytes is now known as microbyte === microbyte is now known as gigabytes === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch === Tonio__ is now known as Tonio_ [15:28] hello guys , i 'm writing ubuntu install preseed file , my question is how can i add a tasksel ( new one ) like server,standard ....etc. say i wanna add a task called mnabil . any idea how can i do that ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [16:11] guys how can the install cd use tasksel, what is the name of the packages (udeb) ? [16:15] * cody-somerville has fell victim to the GDM-doesn't-start-anymore bug. doh. === at_aerzte_logger is now known as hsitter === ryu2 is now known as ryu === dashua_ is now known as dashua [17:40] Hello. Do you know of any existing efforts to create ubuntu build environment under OSX? === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [18:19] as in, a simple chroot? [18:55] what else besides the files in hom dir .asoundrc and company, and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , do affekt the routing of audio on ubuntu? [18:57] what else besides the files in hom dir .asoundrc and company, and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , do affekt the routing of audio on ubuntu 9.04? [18:57] silidan1: the only files that affect audio routing by default in Ubuntu are /usr/share/alsa/pulse*.conf. the module-init-tools file does not actually affect it. [18:58] did you know that setting audio out trough system->settings->sound doesnt affekt ubuntus theme sound output? [18:59] silidan1: it's a known issue for 9.04 and won't be resolved in that release. [18:59] :O [18:59] so i should upgrade to 9.10 ? [19:00] silidan1: you do not need to unless you want tightly integrated GNOME controls. you can install and use pavucontrol. [19:01] nope i cant it only reports -5 no driver or so [19:01] silidan1: if you need assistance, that's more appropriate in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-audio-help [19:01] lol [19:02] noone could help me there [19:02] "there" meaning the former? i don't see any remarks from your nickname in the latter. [19:02] the former [19:03] will ask in ubuntu audio thanks for the hint [20:40] When is the toolchain freeze for Karmic? We've got a GCC 4.4 regression that we're trying to pin down, and it would be great if we could get a patch in to Karmic's toolchain instead of having to patch around the bug upstream. [20:53] ryanprior: I've never heard of Ubuntu having a specific seperate freeze for toolchain === vorian is now known as flirty [20:55] okay. I didn't know. === flirty is now known as vorian [21:46] can someone explain to me maybe why webcam quit working in 2.6.31? or if this is a known issue? i can't seem to find any info on the topic === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [23:09] hi, dose anyone here know how to get the kernel source to compile (or install I guess) the vmware server (2.0.0) on jaunty, the kernel-source-devel appears to be gone [23:12] balloooza: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kernel-image you mean that? === Snova_ is now known as Snova [23:14] c_korn: that says debian installer, is that right [23:15] c_korn: there is no such package for jaunty [23:18] balloooza: a kernel for which architecture are you looking for? debian installer is correct because ubuntu uses the debian package format .deb [23:18] c_korn: usually for something like vmware, just the headers for the current running kernel are used [23:18] I think I found it, ubuntu-headers-genaric [23:46] dtchen: any ideas on how I might debug HDMI audio intermittently cutting out on Karmic? [23:48] it seems to drop a split-second once or twice a minute, though it continues to play through the laptop speakers just fine === FFForever-Away is now known as FFForever [23:49] ooh, i wonder if karmic will give me working hdmi audio [23:50] directhex: Possibly, since 2.6.31 pretty much has the latest alsa code available. [23:51] directhex: However, only 2 channel PCM is possible currently, no AC3/7.1 PCM etc is possible. [23:51] TheMuso, that'd be a start [23:52] directhex: it is working fine for me in Jaunty, this is actually a regression [23:53] i get nothin' on my server box [23:53] nvidia audio... [23:53] also I should file a papercut bug to rename the IEC958 switch to something more discoverable and enable visibility of it by default [23:53] directhex: a server with hdmi audio? [23:54] otherwise almost no one is going to figure it out [23:54] ajmitch, well, until i can afford a mythfrontend, it does that job too [23:54] any tips on a good initial package for the bug? pulseaudio? nvidia-glx-180? [23:55] mrooney: thats a rather difficult thing to do, rename the IEC control. [23:55] * ajmitch doubts it'd be anyway related to nvidia-glx-180 [23:55] mrooney: Probably alsa-lib, but maybe at the kernel level as well. But please bare in mind taht if its renamed, it will brea a lot of bits/. [23:55] really? you can't just change the name in the volume control to anything? === FFForever is now known as FFForever-Away [23:56] mrooney: We could make the change somehow in the UI, but not in alsamixer, and by UI I mean GTK/QT. [23:56] there'd probably need to be some set of mappings from hardware names to user-friendly names for the volume controls [23:56] yeah [23:56] I just mean rename it in the UI so a remotely normal person can figure out that they should enable it to get digital audio [23:56] currently the switch is even hidden by default [23:57] mrooney: Right, you want to look at gnome-media then, although teh gnome-volume-control appet uses gstreamer, so you will have to see hwo those too communicate device volume controls. [23:57] As for KDE, I don't know.