[00:02] <billybigrigger> i have a few questions im hoping someone from this channel can answer...
[00:03] <billybigrigger> with the new 2.6.31 kernel, vbox 2.2.4 and its networking module has quit working...now i see that vobx 3.0 was released to debian testing
[00:03] <billybigrigger> what are the odds i will see a vbox 3.0 package in repos within the next few days, and if not for a long time, is anyone working on a patch or workaround?
[00:04] <billybigrigger> i've been digging around and can't seem to come up with a solution, short of downloading 3.0 from vbox's site, but i'd rather run software from the repos only
[00:06] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/virtualbox/+bug/392314
[00:08] <billybigrigger> no wonder searching for virtualbox didn't return that :P
[00:08] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, thanks a bunch
[00:10] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, ok it says fix released, would that be the patch included in that bug page?
[00:10] <billybigrigger> or is there a fix coming in my updates
[00:10] <billybigrigger> ?
[00:11] <Sarvatt> it says fixed release for the upstream bug, the fix being the svn commit for 2.2.4 thats also in 3.0
[00:12] <billybigrigger> ok
[00:12] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, its been awhile since i patched something
[00:12] <Sarvatt> just save the patch in the bug to your /usr/src/vboxnetflt-2.2.4/ directory and patch -p1 < whatever.patch
[00:13] <billybigrigger> patch -p1 > VBoxNetFlt-linux.c
[00:13] <billybigrigger> ???
[00:13] <billybigrigger> oh
[00:13] <billybigrigger> ok
[00:13] <Sarvatt> patch -p1 < patchname.patch
[00:13] <billybigrigger> just have to save it in the dir
[00:13] <billybigrigger> gotcha :P
[00:13] <billybigrigger> thanks
[00:16] <billybigrigger> billybigrigger@cabo:/usr/src/vboxnetflt-2.2.4/linux$ patch -p1 < net_device-2.6.31.patch
[00:16] <billybigrigger> can't find file to patch at input line 4
[00:16] <billybigrigger> Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
[00:17] <billybigrigger> nvm
[00:17] <billybigrigger> i guess it patched
[00:17] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, now i have to get dkms to reconfigure the module right?
[00:22] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, or am i supposed to be patching dkms?
[01:07] <billybigrigger> Sarvatt, ping
[01:07] <Sarvatt> ?
[01:07] <billybigrigger> i applied that patch, and build the network driver with dkms and installed it, rebooted the system and im still getting the same errors
[01:08] <billybigrigger> i know this isn't a support chan...but you seem to be the only guy awake in the last few hours
[01:08] <Sarvatt> no idea then, i'm sorry man :(
[01:08] <billybigrigger> k no prob
[01:09] <billybigrigger> stupid stupid
[01:09] <billybigrigger> booted the wrong kernel
[01:09] <billybigrigger> haha
[01:11] <billybigrigger> and am i missing something or can you not restart the system from gnome anymore?
[01:11] <billybigrigger> you have to logout back to gdm, and restart from there?
[01:11] <billybigrigger> bug or feature?
[01:12] <ion> The System menu
[01:12] <billybigrigger> nope
[01:13] <ion> Upgrade and re-login
[01:57] <bk> I have a question, and this is kind of advertisement but not intended to be as its part of the question.
[01:59] <bk> Im apart of a site called amahi, amahi.org, and we run a "home server software" ontop of distrobutions, currently the only one we have this working on is Fedora, and are working on a ubuntu version along with others. I dont know if any of the developers that are apart of ubuntu would like to help on this or not but its worth a shot to ask. Would any of the developers happen to be able to help out in getting amahi to work on dist
[02:01] <bk> I am also sorry if I broke any rules or if this is not the place to ask this question.
[02:03] <CarlFK> bk: this sounds more like you need a bunch of packages ...
[02:03] <CarlFK> I am looking at http://www.amahi.org/apps
[02:03] <bk> CarlFK: no, not applications, those are oneclicks
[02:03] <bk> we can handle that
[02:03] <bk> just to get amahi itself working on ubuntu
[02:04] <bk> its more a home server solution for the end user
[02:04] <CarlFK> im not seeing what "amahi" is then - kinda makes me think "linux distro"
[02:04] <ion> “We default to using home.com for your home DNS domain. That means your machines at home will be part of this DNS domain.” Ew, EBW!
[02:04] <bk> CarlFK: honestly, it kindof is, but it runs ontop of other distros (atm fedora)
[02:06] <CarlFK> bk: it is sounding like a package.
[02:06] <bk> it is, you install the distro, then install amahi
[02:06] <bk> basically we need to change amahi to work with fedora
[02:06] <bk> oops
[02:06] <bk> ubuntu
[02:06] <CarlFK> ah... I bet you want #ubuntu-moto (packaging chatter)
[02:09] <CarlFK> this #chan is more for what ubuntu is, not what runs on it.  you 'might' get some interest, cuz it is a nice project... but that would be pulling people away from ubuntu, which would make me grumpy :)
[02:10] <bk> CarlFK: ahh ok, im sorry then, I dont want to pull anyone away from ubuntu, I would just really love to see this running on ubuntu (i dont particularly like fedora, always been a ubuntu lover)
[02:11] <wasabi> I don't think you've really explained what it is, anyways.
[02:11] <wasabi> Looks like a bunch of applications, some of which are already available in Ubuntu.
[02:12] <bk> wasabi: its a home server software for the end users. Web based applications,  Ease of shares with different users in a household, backup solutions (from files to bare metal) and other sorts of things, can make it into a web server if wanted, mail server, etc. But easily for the non experienced users.
[02:12] <wasabi> Heh. And some of the package descriptions on your site are the exact same as the ones in apt.
[02:13] <wasabi> So is it any unique code, or just a bunch of software repackaged?
[02:13] <bk> wasabi: as well as in yum
[02:13] <bk> unique code
[02:13] <wasabi> Not open, or?
[02:14] <bk> yes, opensource
[02:14] <geofft> it sounds like amahi is a couple of packages that depend on other packages from the distro (currently Fedora)?
[02:15] <wasabi> So is it just a UI to install packages that already exist?
[02:15] <wasabi> That's the question I'm trying to get at.
[02:15] <wasabi> "What is it?"
[02:15] <bk> wasabi: i stated what it is above
[02:15] <bk> for the users that use WHS, they can use this as easy as that
[02:16] <bk> WHS=windows home server
[02:16] <wasabi> You stated what it is from a marketing perspective.
[02:16] <wasabi> Not from a perspective one might expect to require when helping you figure out how to package it.
[02:17] <bk> Well, its written in ruby if that helps, im not really the maker, just the outer shell, i really wanted to see if this is the right place
[02:17] <bk> there are about 4-5 users that work on the code currently
[02:17] <wasabi> Oh. Well. Probably -motu is better then.
[02:17] <wasabi> But they'll ask the same questions I did.
[02:17] <bk> k
[02:17] <geofft> I still haven't figured out what it is, but my ears perked up because it sounds kind of like what we're doing at MIT, for adding to existing packages
[02:17] <geofft> take a look at http://debathena.mit.edu/ - if that concept sounds like what Amahi is, I can point you at hoe we did it
[02:18] <wasabi> geofft, from the ONE screen shot I can find on the Wiki, it looks like a web-ui that sets up various apps.
[02:18] <wasabi> Like ebox.
[02:18] <bk> geofft: no, the packages are "one click apps" where you go to say http://apps in the browser, it shows that list of apps, you click install, then its done, then you go to http://appname and it takes you to that application
[02:18] <bk> you can use it anywhere in your home or if your vpn'd into your home, you can use it away as well
[02:19] <geofft> If it involves adding configuration on top of existing Ubuntu packages, then some (a little) of our setup might help
[02:19] <geofft> but obviously we don't have this web installer thing
[02:19] <wasabi> Web installer thing already exists:  apt:// or something
[02:19] <bk> ok
[02:19] <bk> amahi installs like LAMP does
[02:19] <bk> installs ruby, pearl etc as well
[02:19] <geofft> LAMP on Ubuntu (and Fedora) is just installing the Apache, MySQL, and PHP packages.
[02:20] <wasabi> So vague.
[02:20] <bk> yes
[02:20] <bk> its like a web serverr
[02:20] <bk> but more user friendly?
[02:20] <bk> if that makes since
[02:20] <wasabi> I'm guessing you don't know much about it technically?
[02:20] <geofft> if you get someone with a better understanding of the code to show up, we can probably help more :-)
[02:21] <bk> the user does not have to worry about setting up mysql passwords and databases, along with other things
[02:21] <bk> I can send the guy for this part on over, send him to #ubuntu-motu?
[02:21] <wasabi> Does that guy have any questions, or do you?
[02:22] <bk> he will have more than i will
[02:22] <bk> i know that centos devel was not particularly interested in helping us
[02:22] <bk> wanted to make sure before we came on over
[02:22] <wasabi> Well, without a question to be asked, there's not much anybody can do to help you.
[02:23] <bk> well ok
[02:24] <bk> thanks for your time, he might drop into motu to ask random questions about bigger things if needed
[02:27] <CarlFK> that was odd
[02:27] <CarlFK> makes me feel better about my OT questions :)
[06:18] <FFForever> whats up with gnome/gdm/xorg?, they keep dieing =(, and something about gnome/gdm having a login issue about starting something
[06:18] <billybigrigger> gdm-simple-greeter
[06:19] <billybigrigger> or something like that? i get that error upon login
[06:19] <FFForever> yeah
[06:19] <billybigrigger> yeah i don't know what thats about either
[06:20] <FFForever> do u get x dieing randomly while typing?
[06:23] <billybigrigger> nope
[06:23] <billybigrigger> what do you mean?
[06:24] <FFForever> x randomly dies and i get a gdm login screen =(
[06:24] <billybigrigger> oh kicks you right back to gdm?
[06:25] <billybigrigger> how about your logs?
[06:26] <billybigrigger> anything weird?
[06:26] <billybigrigger> Xorg.0.log?
[06:29] <FFForever> not that i can see one moment
[06:29] <FFForever> http://pastebin.com/f1dcaea8c
[06:30]  * FFForever loves pastebinit
[10:28] <pitti> ogra: sure, feel free to commit it
[10:40] <jono> pitti, ping?
[10:41] <pitti> hi jono
[10:41] <jono> pitti, hey, actually Rick S is going to ping you
[10:41] <jono> something regarding some Python bindings for CouchDB
[10:51] <reknol> hi
[10:51] <reknol> wont ubuntu handle  '?
[10:51] <reknol> such as find . -name '*.txt' -exec ls -R '{}' ';'
[10:51] <reknol> will ubuntu handle the '
[11:03] <maxb> reknol: that's a support question, not development one. please respect the topic of the channel. Try #ubuntu
[11:04] <reknol> k
[11:04] <reknol> thx
[15:28] <mnabil_> hello guys , i 'm writing ubuntu install preseed file , my question is how can i add a tasksel ( new one ) like server,standard ....etc. say i wanna add a task called mnabil . any idea how can i do that ?
[16:11] <mnabil_> guys how can the install cd use tasksel, what is the name of the packages (udeb) ?
[16:15]  * cody-somerville has fell victim to the GDM-doesn't-start-anymore bug. doh.
[17:40] <yacoob> Hello. Do you know of any existing efforts to create ubuntu build environment under OSX?
[18:19] <EvanCarroll> as in, a simple chroot?
[18:55] <silidan1> what else besides the files in hom dir .asoundrc and company, and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , do affekt the routing of audio on ubuntu?
[18:57] <silidan1> what else besides the files in hom dir .asoundrc and company, and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , do affekt the routing of audio on ubuntu 9.04?
[18:57] <dtchen> silidan1: the only files that affect audio routing by default in Ubuntu are /usr/share/alsa/pulse*.conf.  the module-init-tools file does not actually affect it.
[18:58] <silidan1> did you know that setting audio out trough system->settings->sound doesnt affekt ubuntus theme sound output?
[18:59] <dtchen> silidan1: it's a known issue for 9.04 and won't be resolved in that release.
[18:59] <silidan1> :O
[18:59] <silidan1> so i should upgrade to 9.10 ?
[19:00] <dtchen> silidan1: you do not need to unless you want tightly integrated GNOME controls. you can install and use pavucontrol.
[19:01] <silidan1> nope i cant it only reports -5 no driver or so
[19:01] <dtchen> silidan1: if you need assistance, that's more appropriate in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-audio-help
[19:01] <silidan1> lol
[19:02] <silidan1> noone could help me there
[19:02] <dtchen> "there" meaning the former? i don't see any remarks from your nickname in the latter.
[19:02] <silidan1> the former
[19:03] <silidan1> will ask in ubuntu audio thanks for the hint
[20:40] <ryanprior> When is the toolchain freeze for Karmic? We've got a GCC 4.4 regression that we're trying to pin down, and it would be great if we could get a patch in to Karmic's toolchain instead of having to patch around the bug upstream.
[20:53] <maxb> ryanprior: I've never heard of Ubuntu having a specific seperate freeze for toolchain
[20:55] <ryanprior> okay. I didn't know.
[21:46] <billybigrigger> can someone explain to me maybe why webcam quit working in 2.6.31? or if this is a known issue? i can't seem to find any info on the topic
[23:09] <balloooza> hi, dose anyone here know how to get the kernel source to compile (or install I guess) the vmware server (2.0.0) on jaunty, the kernel-source-devel appears to be gone
[23:12] <c_korn> balloooza: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=kernel-image you mean that?
[23:14] <balloooza> c_korn: that says debian installer, is that right
[23:15] <balloooza> c_korn: there is no such package for jaunty
[23:18] <c_korn> balloooza: a kernel for which architecture are you looking for? debian installer is correct because ubuntu uses the debian package format .deb
[23:18] <ajmitch> c_korn: usually for something like vmware, just the headers for the current running kernel are used
[23:18] <balloooza> I think I found it, ubuntu-headers-genaric
[23:46] <mrooney> dtchen: any ideas on how I might debug HDMI audio intermittently cutting out on Karmic?
[23:48] <mrooney> it seems to drop a split-second once or twice a minute, though it continues to play through the laptop speakers just fine
[23:49] <directhex> ooh, i wonder if karmic will give me working hdmi audio
[23:50] <TheMuso> directhex: Possibly, since 2.6.31 pretty much has the latest alsa code available.
[23:51] <TheMuso> directhex: However, only 2 channel PCM is possible currently, no AC3/7.1 PCM etc is possible.
[23:51] <directhex> TheMuso, that'd be a start
[23:52] <mrooney> directhex: it is working fine for me in Jaunty, this is actually a regression
[23:53] <directhex> i get nothin' on my server box
[23:53] <directhex> nvidia audio...
[23:53] <mrooney> also I should file a papercut bug to rename the IEC958 switch to something more discoverable and enable visibility of it by default
[23:53] <ajmitch> directhex: a server with hdmi audio?
[23:54] <mrooney> otherwise almost no one is going to figure it out
[23:54] <directhex> ajmitch, well, until i can afford a mythfrontend, it does that job too
[23:54] <mrooney> any tips on a good initial package for the bug? pulseaudio? nvidia-glx-180?
[23:55] <TheMuso> mrooney: thats a rather difficult thing to do, rename the IEC control.
[23:55]  * ajmitch doubts it'd be anyway related to nvidia-glx-180
[23:55] <TheMuso> mrooney: Probably alsa-lib, but maybe at the kernel level as well. But please bare in mind taht if its renamed, it will brea a lot of bits/.
[23:55] <mrooney> really? you can't just change the name in the volume control to anything?
[23:56] <TheMuso> mrooney: We could make the change somehow in the UI, but not in alsamixer, and by UI I mean GTK/QT.
[23:56] <ajmitch> there'd probably need to be some set of mappings from hardware names to user-friendly names for the volume controls
[23:56] <mrooney> yeah
[23:56] <mrooney> I just mean rename it in the UI so a remotely normal person can figure out that they should enable it to get digital audio
[23:56] <mrooney> currently the switch is even hidden by default
[23:57] <TheMuso> mrooney: Right, you want to look at gnome-media then, although teh gnome-volume-control appet uses gstreamer, so you will have to see hwo those too communicate device volume controls.
[23:57] <TheMuso> As for KDE, I don't know.