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p3rrorHi00:00
p3rrorI'm looking for a sponsor for a package00:00
p3rrorcan any one take a look to it00:00
Ampelbeinp3rror: it would certainly help if you gave us the name of the package/ a bugnumber to check.00:02
cpscottiwarp10: thanks!00:03
Ampelbeincpscotti, warp10: uploaded harpia00:03
warp10Ampelbein: ok, perfect00:03
p3rrorAmpelbein, please check http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/python-ipcalc00:03
cpscottiAmpelbein: thanks!00:05
ramviWhat's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage, dpkg --build and debuild ?00:07
cpscottiAmpelbein: should I subscribe the universe sponsors on the needs-packaging bug at launchpad ?  Or you will "take it from here"?00:07
Ampelbeincpscotti: the archive-admins will look at the package and (if they accept it) put it in the repository.00:08
ramvidpkg --build checks for less (changelog, rules)00:08
Ampelbeincpscotti: you don't need to do anything from here.00:08
cpscottiI see.. thanks!00:08
cpscottiAmpelbein: =]00:08
Ampelbeinp3rror: the itp-bug at debian is "pending", so I suppose it was uploaded already? if so, we can just sync from debian, once it got accepted.00:09
ramviand dpkg --build looks for DEBIAN while debuild and dpkg-buildpackage looks for debian00:09
p3rrorAmpelbein, ok00:11
p3rrorthanks00:11
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porthosep3rror: have a look at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html01:27
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CarlFKin a .deb... how do I add an icon to the users Desktop that launchs an app?03:33
geofftsomething in /etc/xdg, IIRC03:34
CarlFKhmmm... maybe I will just shove it in  /etc/xdg/autostart and then the user won't have to click it :)03:38
CarlFKnot really a bad idea given the point of the cd is to run this app03:38
RAOFCarlFK: /usr/share/applications is where you want to drop it.03:42
RAOFArgh.  Never mind.  I need to read more carefully.03:43
CarlFKno prob - I am kinda digging the autostart thing03:43
CarlFKhow about adding things to the launcher pannel?03:48
mrooneyif I've got an ubuntu-only package, when does the window close to get a new version in karmic?07:02
mrooney(that is already in jaunty)07:02
TheMusomrooney: You will have to check the schedule to be 100% sure, but late August I think.07:10
mrooneyTheMuso: thanks, so "FeatureFreeze" is the freeze relevant to that?07:16
ajmitchmrooney: that's the one, no new upstream versions after that, excluding bugfixes07:17
ajmitchor if you get exceptions granted07:17
mrooneyyeah, an FFE for a package not even on popcon probably wouldn't be too hard, although I think by Feature Freeze should work07:17
ajmitchwhat's the package?07:18
mrooneywxbanker, it is in universe and I am the maintainer / upstream author07:19
ajmitchusually freeze exceptions are more likely given if a package has nothing else depending on it, doesn't affect other things, etc07:19
ajmitchok07:19
mrooneyso I am just trying to figure out when I need to finish up the latest version07:19
ajmitchsounds like one that wouldn't be hard to get exceptions for, but definitely aim for before feature freeze07:19
mrooneyyeah I shall indeed, I'll aim for 2 weeks before allowing that time for finding someone to upload it :)07:20
ajmitchnew versions aren't nearly as hard to get in as new packages :)07:20
mrooneyI wish you could just designate a bzr branch as the official one owned by the maintainer, and that person can push themselves up till FF07:21
ajmitchthat will come in time07:21
ajmitchthough most of what we do avoids having single maintainers for packages07:22
ajmitchhowever there's already the possibility of package-specific upload rights07:22
mrooneyyeah I was at the UDS session on daily builds and such, sounds like there is exciting stuff coming07:22
ajmitchwe're just not there yet with bzr integration07:22
mrooneyajmitch: oh, would that be something worth exploring for me?07:22
ajmitchit could be07:22
ajmitchI believe upload rights were just granted to someone for some universe packages recently07:23
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billybigriggerhey quick question...17:54
billybigriggeram i allowed to start my own ppa for vbox 3.0?17:55
gesersure, why shouldn't you be allowed? (as long as it meets the PPA terms-of-use)18:02
sebnergeser: huhu =) , Neue Lage - 4 Tage :D18:03
gesersebner: Hi, so your military service is almost done?18:05
sebnergeser: Yep. Ends on thursday, already gave back my weapon on friday18:05
* geser awaits a batch of uploads from sebner on next friday :)18:06
dtchengeser: thanks for the libghc6-x11-xft-dev no-change rebuild; will you please do the same for xmonad-contrib?18:06
sebnergeser: ehehehe. If that goes that fast ... maybe a little bit later since I will move to Vienna middle of the month18:07
geserdtchen: done18:15
dtchengeser: great, thanks!18:15
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* hyperair wonders what happened to all the amd64 builds19:11
hyperairbuildds*19:11
geserwhy? it looks normal19:19
pochumaybe because they look normal? :)19:21
sebnerpochu: lol19:21
pochuyo sebner!19:21
sebnerhuhu pochu :)19:21
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pochusebner: glad to hear you'll be back soon :)19:22
* sebner hides19:22
hyperairmozilla daily's builds for amd64 have been waiting for some time19:37
hyperairah well19:37
dcravenSo I've updated a package locally (LP bug 395576), but now I don't know what to do with what I have... I've done the debuild -S and built the new package with pbuilder. Now what? heh19:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395576 in gnome-web-photo "Please upgrade gnome-web-photo to 0.8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39557619:51
dcravenNeeds to be reviewed I'd imagine since I'm new at this.19:52
dcravenI'm certain I've read this on the wiki somewhere, but it's lost forever :)19:53
kklimondadcraven: for start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate19:54
kklimondaand then prepare a debdiff, attach it to a report and subscribe sponsors19:55
dcravenhehe.. I just found that too finally. Thank you kklimonda. Given that this is a version update, it seems I need to attach the diff.gz.19:56
dcravenThanks for your help.19:56
leifdk1978hey have a quistion on repo on blender20:15
micahg!info blender karmic20:15
ubottublender (source: blender): Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.48a+dfsg-1ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 9881 kB, installed size 25480 kB20:15
leifdk1978it is a update of it20:16
micahgwhat's the current version leifdk197820:16
leifdk19782,49a20:16
leifdk1978:)20:16
leifdk1978if mentoring is avalible i would love to work20:16
micahghmmm20:16
sebnerleifdk1978: 2.49 is already in Debian so you only need to merge it20:17
leifdk1978ahh ok '20:17
micahgleifdk1978: it's awaiting merge20:17
micahgon mom20:17
leifdk1978ahhh nice perfect20:17
leifdk1978then i just have to wait20:18
geserleifdk1978: or you could help with the merge (if you want)20:23
leifdk1978yeah i wil return when i am back from vacation and offer help20:24
leifdk1978leaving tomorrow early20:24
leifdk1978that is a way i can see it20:26
fabrice_sp_leifdk1978, debian only has 2.49, so first, try to get 2.49a in Debian20:38
leifdk1978ok well is leaving tomorrow early so when i am back20:38
fabrice_sp_np :-)20:38
leifdk1978but then i start update the blender program20:39
fabrice_sp_leifdk1978, or you can open a bug in Debian requesting the update, and merge after20:39
fabrice_sp_(if Debian updates the package)20:40
fabrice_sp_anyway: good holidays :-)20:40
leifdk1978ahh ok nice i am gona go for that and help maintaint it20:40
leifdk19782,49a is a bug fix release while we wait for 2,520:41
leifdk1978does motu work demand a lot of programming20:47
Laneynope20:47
leifdk1978ahh nice i am looking forward to learning it and be working on updating software20:47
kklimondaLaney: hey, you have a moment?20:48
Laneykklimonda: one or two20:48
kklimondaLaney: are you sure that bug 389265 is a duplicate of 391398 ?20:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 389265 in gtk+2.0 "transmission crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 391398)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38926520:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 391398 in gtk+2.0 "Applications segfault with gtk+ version 2.17.2 when selecting listbox values" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39139820:49
Laneyit sounds like the same thing20:49
Laneyundupe if you have evidence to the contrary20:49
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lukasHi, I was told to report probably fault in one package - user-mode-linux seems to depend on unavailable skas patch, see http://pastebin.com/f579d06e4 which is from apt-cache showpkg user-mode-linux22:05
ajmitchlukas: it only suggests linux-patch-skas, and that uml package looks to be rather outdated22:09
ajmitchhowever you can file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug user-mode-linux'22:09
lukasajmitch: do you think it is worth?22:10
ajmitchsame bug has been open in debian for nearly a year22:10
ajmitchbeing just a 'Suggests', it doesn't affect it too much22:10
lukasajmitch: yes, but frankly, I hoped for the patch22:11
lukasajmitch: so ok, I will report it22:11
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ajmitchI thought that skas patch was rather outdated now?22:13
lukasajmitch: afaik, there is skas3 now22:13
ajmitchSKAS3/2.6 latest supported tree: 2.6.2022:14
lukasajmitch: ah, okay then, I thought it was present22:14
ajmitchlooks like there hasn't been a new one for the last 2+ years22:15
lukasajmitch: oh, so usermode might be dead?22:16
ajmitchnot dead, apparantly there was some skas stuff merged upstream quite awhile ago22:16
ajmitchI know people who still use uml, but on older systems22:17
lukasajmitch: well, I would really like to use such thing, and I hope it wont end now22:17
ajmitchany reason you'd rather use uml instead of kvm or xen?22:17
ajmitchas you can see, there hasn't been a lot of activity with supporting uml recently22:18
lukasajmitch: well, I like the fact that kernel is just another process and I hope to reduce memory necessary for multiple machines22:22
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