[00:00] <p3rror> Hi
[00:00] <p3rror> I'm looking for a sponsor for a package
[00:00] <p3rror> can any one take a look to it
[00:02] <Ampelbein> p3rror: it would certainly help if you gave us the name of the package/ a bugnumber to check.
[00:03] <cpscotti> warp10: thanks!
[00:03] <Ampelbein> cpscotti, warp10: uploaded harpia
[00:03] <warp10> Ampelbein: ok, perfect
[00:03] <p3rror> Ampelbein, please check http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/python-ipcalc
[00:05] <cpscotti> Ampelbein: thanks!
[00:07] <ramvi> What's the difference between dpkg-buildpackage, dpkg --build and debuild ?
[00:07] <cpscotti> Ampelbein: should I subscribe the universe sponsors on the needs-packaging bug at launchpad ?  Or you will "take it from here"?
[00:08] <Ampelbein> cpscotti: the archive-admins will look at the package and (if they accept it) put it in the repository.
[00:08] <ramvi> dpkg --build checks for less (changelog, rules)
[00:08] <Ampelbein> cpscotti: you don't need to do anything from here.
[00:08] <cpscotti> I see.. thanks!
[00:08] <cpscotti> Ampelbein: =]
[00:09] <Ampelbein> p3rror: the itp-bug at debian is "pending", so I suppose it was uploaded already? if so, we can just sync from debian, once it got accepted.
[00:09] <ramvi> and dpkg --build looks for DEBIAN while debuild and dpkg-buildpackage looks for debian
[00:11] <p3rror> Ampelbein, ok
[00:11] <p3rror> thanks
[01:27] <porthose> p3rror: have a look at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
[03:33] <CarlFK> in a .deb... how do I add an icon to the users Desktop that launchs an app?
[03:34] <geofft> something in /etc/xdg, IIRC
[03:38] <CarlFK> hmmm... maybe I will just shove it in  /etc/xdg/autostart and then the user won't have to click it :)
[03:38] <CarlFK> not really a bad idea given the point of the cd is to run this app
[03:42] <RAOF> CarlFK: /usr/share/applications is where you want to drop it.
[03:43] <RAOF> Argh.  Never mind.  I need to read more carefully.
[03:43] <CarlFK> no prob - I am kinda digging the autostart thing
[03:48] <CarlFK> how about adding things to the launcher pannel?
[07:02] <mrooney> if I've got an ubuntu-only package, when does the window close to get a new version in karmic?
[07:02] <mrooney> (that is already in jaunty)
[07:10] <TheMuso> mrooney: You will have to check the schedule to be 100% sure, but late August I think.
[07:16] <mrooney> TheMuso: thanks, so "FeatureFreeze" is the freeze relevant to that?
[07:17] <ajmitch> mrooney: that's the one, no new upstream versions after that, excluding bugfixes
[07:17] <ajmitch> or if you get exceptions granted
[07:17] <mrooney> yeah, an FFE for a package not even on popcon probably wouldn't be too hard, although I think by Feature Freeze should work
[07:18] <ajmitch> what's the package?
[07:19] <mrooney> wxbanker, it is in universe and I am the maintainer / upstream author
[07:19] <ajmitch> usually freeze exceptions are more likely given if a package has nothing else depending on it, doesn't affect other things, etc
[07:19] <ajmitch> ok
[07:19] <mrooney> so I am just trying to figure out when I need to finish up the latest version
[07:19] <ajmitch> sounds like one that wouldn't be hard to get exceptions for, but definitely aim for before feature freeze
[07:20] <mrooney> yeah I shall indeed, I'll aim for 2 weeks before allowing that time for finding someone to upload it :)
[07:20] <ajmitch> new versions aren't nearly as hard to get in as new packages :)
[07:21] <mrooney> I wish you could just designate a bzr branch as the official one owned by the maintainer, and that person can push themselves up till FF
[07:21] <ajmitch> that will come in time
[07:22] <ajmitch> though most of what we do avoids having single maintainers for packages
[07:22] <ajmitch> however there's already the possibility of package-specific upload rights
[07:22] <mrooney> yeah I was at the UDS session on daily builds and such, sounds like there is exciting stuff coming
[07:22] <ajmitch> we're just not there yet with bzr integration
[07:22] <mrooney> ajmitch: oh, would that be something worth exploring for me?
[07:22] <ajmitch> it could be
[07:23] <ajmitch> I believe upload rights were just granted to someone for some universe packages recently
[17:54] <billybigrigger> hey quick question...
[17:55] <billybigrigger> am i allowed to start my own ppa for vbox 3.0?
[18:02] <geser> sure, why shouldn't you be allowed? (as long as it meets the PPA terms-of-use)
[18:03] <sebner> geser: huhu =) , Neue Lage - 4 Tage :D
[18:05] <geser> sebner: Hi, so your military service is almost done?
[18:05] <sebner> geser: Yep. Ends on thursday, already gave back my weapon on friday
[18:06]  * geser awaits a batch of uploads from sebner on next friday :)
[18:06] <dtchen> geser: thanks for the libghc6-x11-xft-dev no-change rebuild; will you please do the same for xmonad-contrib?
[18:07] <sebner> geser: ehehehe. If that goes that fast ... maybe a little bit later since I will move to Vienna middle of the month
[18:15] <geser> dtchen: done
[18:15] <dtchen> geser: great, thanks!
[19:11]  * hyperair wonders what happened to all the amd64 builds
[19:11] <hyperair> buildds*
[19:19] <geser> why? it looks normal
[19:21] <pochu> maybe because they look normal? :)
[19:21] <sebner> pochu: lol
[19:21] <pochu> yo sebner!
[19:21] <sebner> huhu pochu :)
[19:22] <pochu> sebner: glad to hear you'll be back soon :)
[19:22]  * sebner hides
[19:37] <hyperair> mozilla daily's builds for amd64 have been waiting for some time
[19:37] <hyperair> ah well
[19:51] <dcraven> So I've updated a package locally (LP bug 395576), but now I don't know what to do with what I have... I've done the debuild -S and built the new package with pbuilder. Now what? heh
[19:52] <dcraven> Needs to be reviewed I'd imagine since I'm new at this.
[19:53] <dcraven> I'm certain I've read this on the wiki somewhere, but it's lost forever :)
[19:54] <kklimonda> dcraven: for start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate
[19:55] <kklimonda> and then prepare a debdiff, attach it to a report and subscribe sponsors
[19:56] <dcraven> hehe.. I just found that too finally. Thank you kklimonda. Given that this is a version update, it seems I need to attach the diff.gz.
[19:56] <dcraven> Thanks for your help.
[20:15] <leifdk1978> hey have a quistion on repo on blender
[20:15] <micahg> !info blender karmic
[20:16] <leifdk1978> it is a update of it
[20:16] <micahg> what's the current version leifdk1978
[20:16] <leifdk1978> 2,49a
[20:16] <leifdk1978> :)
[20:16] <leifdk1978> if mentoring is avalible i would love to work
[20:16] <micahg> hmmm
[20:17] <sebner> leifdk1978: 2.49 is already in Debian so you only need to merge it
[20:17] <leifdk1978> ahh ok '
[20:17] <micahg> leifdk1978: it's awaiting merge
[20:17] <micahg> on mom
[20:17] <leifdk1978> ahhh nice perfect
[20:18] <leifdk1978> then i just have to wait
[20:23] <geser> leifdk1978: or you could help with the merge (if you want)
[20:24] <leifdk1978> yeah i wil return when i am back from vacation and offer help
[20:24] <leifdk1978> leaving tomorrow early
[20:26] <leifdk1978> that is a way i can see it
[20:38] <fabrice_sp_> leifdk1978, debian only has 2.49, so first, try to get 2.49a in Debian
[20:38] <leifdk1978> ok well is leaving tomorrow early so when i am back
[20:38] <fabrice_sp_> np :-)
[20:39] <leifdk1978> but then i start update the blender program
[20:39] <fabrice_sp_> leifdk1978, or you can open a bug in Debian requesting the update, and merge after
[20:40] <fabrice_sp_> (if Debian updates the package)
[20:40] <fabrice_sp_> anyway: good holidays :-)
[20:40] <leifdk1978> ahh ok nice i am gona go for that and help maintaint it
[20:41] <leifdk1978> 2,49a is a bug fix release while we wait for 2,5
[20:47] <leifdk1978> does motu work demand a lot of programming
[20:47] <Laney> nope
[20:47] <leifdk1978> ahh nice i am looking forward to learning it and be working on updating software
[20:48] <kklimonda> Laney: hey, you have a moment?
[20:48] <Laney> kklimonda: one or two
[20:49] <kklimonda> Laney: are you sure that bug 389265 is a duplicate of 391398 ?
[20:49] <Laney> it sounds like the same thing
[20:49] <Laney> undupe if you have evidence to the contrary
[22:05] <lukas> Hi, I was told to report probably fault in one package - user-mode-linux seems to depend on unavailable skas patch, see http://pastebin.com/f579d06e4 which is from apt-cache showpkg user-mode-linux
[22:09] <ajmitch> lukas: it only suggests linux-patch-skas, and that uml package looks to be rather outdated
[22:09] <ajmitch> however you can file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug user-mode-linux'
[22:10] <lukas> ajmitch: do you think it is worth?
[22:10] <ajmitch> same bug has been open in debian for nearly a year
[22:10] <ajmitch> being just a 'Suggests', it doesn't affect it too much
[22:11] <lukas> ajmitch: yes, but frankly, I hoped for the patch
[22:11] <lukas> ajmitch: so ok, I will report it
[22:13] <ajmitch> I thought that skas patch was rather outdated now?
[22:13] <lukas> ajmitch: afaik, there is skas3 now
[22:14] <ajmitch> SKAS3/2.6 latest supported tree: 2.6.20
[22:14] <lukas> ajmitch: ah, okay then, I thought it was present
[22:15] <ajmitch> looks like there hasn't been a new one for the last 2+ years
[22:16] <lukas> ajmitch: oh, so usermode might be dead?
[22:16] <ajmitch> not dead, apparantly there was some skas stuff merged upstream quite awhile ago
[22:17] <ajmitch> I know people who still use uml, but on older systems
[22:17] <lukas> ajmitch: well, I would really like to use such thing, and I hope it wont end now
[22:17] <ajmitch> any reason you'd rather use uml instead of kvm or xen?
[22:18] <ajmitch> as you can see, there hasn't been a lot of activity with supporting uml recently
[22:22] <lukas> ajmitch: well, I like the fact that kernel is just another process and I hope to reduce memory necessary for multiple machines