[00:49] <jeeves> afternoon all
[00:49] <jeeves> what is the simplest way of rsyncing ONLY the changes to a webserver's directories to a remote host?
[05:00] <balloooza> how do I set up apache to redirect somthing that comes onto a domain (witch is set up to redirect to somthing out of my www folder to a differen folder: mysite.com > /var/website/ mysite.com/desktop > /var/eyeos/ (hypotheticaly, you do not need to click the links:) )
[05:04] <balloooza> macd: do you know about apache (you might still be looking at this page)
[05:48] <pwnguin> is there a standard system of deploying websites via debian packages?
[05:48] <pwnguin> munin just installed to /var/www, but i see a sites-available, sites-enabled setup
[06:09] <qman__> sites-enabled and sites-available are for the site configuration files
[06:10] <qman__> you can set them up individually in sites-available and enable them with a2ensite
[06:10] <qman__> you define where the site's actual files are in that configuration file
[06:11] <qman__> a simpler classic configuration will also work, but I rather like the way it's set up in ubuntu
[06:14] <pwnguin> i was just wondering if there's a policy suggesting where to put files
[06:14] <pwnguin> that might be a bit more flexible than subdirs of /var/www
[06:15] <qman__> that's what I usually do
[06:15] <qman__> not sure if there's a standard
[06:16] <pwnguin>  i see some draft debian policies
[06:23] <ntshan> hi
[06:24] <ntshan> anyone have experience running hudson on ubuntu server?
[06:25] <ntshan> I have a small nettop machine that I installed ubuntu server on
[06:25] <ntshan> and set up subversion
[06:29] <ntshan> mkay
[06:29] <dthacker> what is hudson?
[06:30] <ntshan> it's a continuous integration server
[06:30] <ntshan> when you check in changes to source code on your project, it runs the build
[06:31] <dthacker> my googling has found other people using it, but I've no experience with it.
[06:31] <dthacker> If you have a specific question, ask it here or in the forums.
[06:32] <ntshan> cool...I was just wondering if there are any ubunty specific issues others have had
[06:32] <ntshan> *ubuntu
[06:32] <dthacker> http://www.sonatype.com/people/2009/02/the-hudson-build-farm-experience-volume-ii/    looks interesting
[06:35] <ntshan> nice
[07:13] <ntshan> I plan on using ant instead of maven as a build system though
[07:14] <ntshan> mostly because my company uses it and I'm trying to test everything at home before pitching it to the company
[08:45] <pwnguin> qman__: http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft/html/ch-issues.html
[09:15] <chris_d_adams> hi guys - I'm running a server that I want to update to using ubuntu intrepid, instead of gutsy
[09:15] <chris_d_adams> why might aptitude update error on me like this?
[09:15] <chris_d_adams> http://gist.github.com/140877
[09:19] <mattt> chris_d_adams: hmm
[09:20] <mattt> chris_d_adams: have feisty/gutsy been EOLd?
[09:20] <chris_d_adams> mattt: ah, after a bit more googling, i think that might be it
[09:20] <chris_d_adams> this person had a similar problem
[09:20] <chris_d_adams> http://forum.linuxmce.org/index.php?topic=8107.0
[09:20] <chris_d_adams> sorry to sound dense
[09:21] <chris_d_adams> but is it really just a case of changing all instances of http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:21] <chris_d_adams> to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead?
[09:22] <mattt> i don't think so
[09:22] <mattt> i think the idea of old-releases is to allow you to install packages when still running an EOL'd version
[09:22] <mattt> for you, you wish to upgrade ... right?
[09:23] <mobi-sheep> Just curious -- In "sudo tasksel" -- There are Basic Ubuntu Server.  What does that do?
[09:23] <chris_d_adams> mattt: yeah -  i have a couple of boxes running intrpeid
[09:24] <chris_d_adams> and I totally forgot this one was running gutsy
[09:24] <mattt> chris_d_adams: i'm not sure what the upgrade path is, if you can go straight from gutsy to intrepid ... i guess that's what you should be looking at
[09:25] <mattt> chris_d_adams: perhaps you want to get rid of the references to feisty in your sources.list, and then replace the references to gusty w/ intrepid ... but if it's a live server please research first, as i have no experience doing that :)
[09:25] <chris_d_adams> mattt: duly noted, thanks :)
[09:25] <mobi-sheep> chris_d_adams: I think I heard this before.  You switch to the old-releases to ensure that all packages are fully updated/upgraded before you upgrade over to the next version.  I heard it many times on #ubuntu
[09:26] <mattt> mobi-sheep: would make sense :)
[09:26] <chris_d_adams> ah, this looks like it
[09:26] <chris_d_adams> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:28] <mobi-sheep> What is Basic Ubuntu Server?  Should I toggle it on?  I only want to run XBMCbuntu.
[09:28] <mobi-sheep> And other servers such as print server.  Basic Ubuntu Server is too generic.
[09:29] <mattt> chris_d_adams: awesome, i love step-by-step instructions :)
[09:29] <chris_d_adams> indeed
[09:29] <chris_d_adams> thanks for the help btw
[09:30] <mattt> chris_d_adams: np, good luck!
[11:05] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #394385 in php5 (main) "[karmic] php packages need update to 5.3" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394385
[12:02] <CoMp4c7> Does anybody knows why apache suexec is compiled to execute scripts in /var/www and not in /home?
[12:45] <joshhunt> Hey guys
[12:46] <joshhunt> i am trying to install the latest nightly of transmission through apt
[12:47] <joshhunt> I have the correct repo, but apt-get wont get transmission-common from that repo. Instead, it gets it from the default ubuntu repo
[12:47] <joshhunt> Is it possible to 'reorder' the priority of the repos?
[13:51] <Anirban1987>  http://117.194.228.242/vhosts/ehcp/sysinfo/index.php?disp=dynamic  Is dedicated RAM of 256 mb enough for me ?
[14:08] <RoyK> Anirban1987: that depends what you're going to do
[14:09] <RoyK> Anirban1987: what sort of load?
[14:12] <Anirban1987> http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5854/serveryab.jpg . This is a screen shot of my home server. Now I want to shift to a VPS with the same set of apps installed. How much dedicated RAM should I get ?
[14:16] <RoyK> what is the load?
[14:16] <RoyK> is it a webserver?
[14:16] <RoyK> a file server?
[14:17] <RoyK> video streaming?
[14:17] <RoyK> database?
[14:17] <Anirban1987> RoyK : webserver... LAMP
[14:17] <RoyK> 256 may suffice
[14:17] <RoyK> depending on the database size
[14:18] <Anirban1987> RoyK : Hav u seen the screenshot ?
[14:18] <RoyK> the screen shot doesn't say much about the actual load
[14:18] <RoyK> only that the system is quite idle and that it doesn't use all its memory
[14:19] <RoyK> what is the price diff between the two?
[14:19] <Anirban1987> RoyK : The memory is crossing 256 MB . Thats why I am asking...
[14:19] <RoyK> on the console, type 'free'
[14:19] <RoyK> pastebin the output
[14:20] <RoyK> more memory means better caching
[14:20] <RoyK> how much data is there to cache?
[14:22] <Eviltechie> How do you install sun-java6-jre?
[14:23] <RoyK> Eviltechie: FGFI http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455137
[14:23] <Anirban1987> RoyK : http://pastebin.ca/1484696
[14:25] <RoyK> see the buffers/cache line
[14:25] <Eviltechie> E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
[14:25] <RoyK> it seems your box is only using ~130MB for processes/data
[14:26] <RoyK> Eviltechie: which version?
[14:26] <Eviltechie> 6
[14:26] <RoyK> ubuntu version?
[14:26] <Eviltechie> 9.04
[14:26] <RoyK> hm. i thought it should be in there
[14:27] <Eviltechie> There is one called sun-java6-jre-headless
[14:27] <Anirban1987> RoyK : So can I settle for 256 MB of dedicated RAM and 0 MB of burstable RAM.
[14:27] <RoyK> Anirban1987: should work - just set vm.swappiness = 100
[14:28] <RoyK> Anirban1987: in /etc/sysctl.conf
[14:29] <RoyK> Anirban1987: that makes the kernel swap out earlier, so that processes that aren't actually doing anything, in time, may be swapped out so that memory can be used for something useful
[14:30] <RoyK> Eviltechie: from my ubuntu 8.04.2:
[14:30] <RoyK> sun-java6-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files)
[14:30] <Eviltechie> I'm on a vps
[14:30] <Eviltechie> And the headless one is not working either
[14:31] <RoyK> it shouldn't matter if you're on a vps or not
[14:31] <Eviltechie> Apt-get is complaining about some language issue with pearl, and wget was missing
[14:32] <RoyK> Eviltechie: which repositories are you using?
[14:35] <Eviltechie> RoyK: Not sure
[14:35] <RoyK> pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:36] <Eviltechie> RoyK: Looks like my universe repos are commented out
[14:36] <RoyK> try enabling them, apt-get update and retry installing the package
[14:38] <Eviltechie> RoyK: Still no instalation candiate
[14:38] <RoyK> which ones are you using now?
[14:38] <Anirban1987> RoyK : There is no such entry like vm.swappiness (http://pastebin.ca/1484703) . Where shld I add it ?
[14:38] <RoyK> Anirban1987: somewhere
[14:39] <RoyK> just add it to the end
[14:39] <RoyK> vm.swappiness = 100
[14:39] <RoyK> also, these might be nice
[14:39] <RoyK> kernel.panic = 60
[14:39] <RoyK> kernel.panic_on_oops = 1
[14:39] <RoyK> the former automatically reboots after 60 seconds in case of a kernel panic
[14:39] <RoyK> the latter calls panic() in case of OOPS()
[14:42] <RoyK> a kernel panic will stop the machine, so better reboot it if that happens. an OOPS _may_ stop the machine or certain services, so treating those as a panic is just as well
[14:42] <Anirban1987> RoyK : If my VPS provider offers 0 MB burstable RAM , is that means that I have no swap file ?
[14:43] <RoyK> the swapping is handled by the guest OS, not the host OS, so no difference there
[14:43] <RoyK> that is, swapping is handled individually by both
[14:44] <Anirban1987> RoyK : SO is that means that I have no swap file on the host OS ?
[14:44] <RoyK> Anirban1987: are you the administrator of this system?
[14:44] <RoyK> the host OS is the one running one or more VPSes
[14:45] <RoyK> the VPSes are the 'guest' OSes
[14:45] <Anirban1987> RoyK : Ya , I am the admin of a VPS. No access to host OS
[14:45] <RoyK> then you don't have to care for the host OS
[14:46] <RoyK> the guest OS should be treated like linux installed on bare iron
[14:46] <RoyK> Eviltechie: are you using multiverse?
[14:46] <bogeyd6> actually very look iron is used in making a computer
[14:47] <bogeyd6> look = little
[14:47]  * RoyK bitchslaps bogeyd6 
[14:48] <Eviltechie> I don't think so http://pastebin.com/m1460ed9
[14:48] <bogeyd6> bare metal would be a more accurate descriptor
[14:48] <RoyK> Eviltechie: try adding it
[14:48] <RoyK> bogeyd6: pedantic today, are we?
[14:49] <bogeyd6> your big words anger and confuse me
[14:49] <RoyK> :þ
[14:49] <bogeyd6> i do appluad your vast understanding of vm
[14:51] <RoyK> bogeyd6: if you're here to fuck around and just that, perhaps there's a better place elsewhere?
[15:00] <Anirban1987>  Do the amount of RAM eaten up depends upon the web hosting panel used ?
[15:00] <RoyK> yes
[15:00] <RoyK> but not a lot
[15:02] <Anirban1987> RoyK : I am amazed why my home server with only LAMP and EHCP panel installed taking so much RAM !!
[15:03] <RoyK> 130 megs isn't really a lot
[15:09] <RoyK> Anirban1987: do a "ps axfv" to see how much memory each process is using
[15:10] <RoyK> Anirban1987: the RSS column shows how much memory is really in use. DRS shows the memory the process has requested
[15:18] <Anirban1987> RoyK : Check it out http://pastebin.ca/1484714
[15:20] <RoyK> Anirban1987: try ps axfvwwwwww
[15:23] <Anirban1987> RoyK : http://pastebin.ca/1484715
[15:23] <RoyK> hm... summing up those processes makes them use 280MB or so
[15:24] <RoyK> but then, I guess most of the apache processes share a lot
[15:24] <RoyK> ps can't show shared (CoW) memory after forks - it just shows what the process can address, not if it's dedup'ed by the fork
[15:25] <Anirban1987> RoyK : hmm... So how much dedicated and burstable RAM should I settle for ?
[15:26] <RoyK> what is the price diff?
[15:26] <RoyK> LAMP likes memory. even if it can run on 128MB or perhaps even less, it won't hurt to give it more
[15:27] <RoyK> but again, it depends on your workload
[15:27] <Anirban1987> RoyK : http://ideastack.com/vps.html Stuck btw Gold and Platinum ...
[15:28] <Anirban1987> RoyK : And I must admit my budget is severely limited. Need to do as much optimization as possible
[15:28] <RoyK> As long as an upgrade is possible/affordable, I'd start at silver and see if that works well
[15:28] <RoyK> install sysstat and so on to monitor the system
[15:28] <RoyK> if it's too slow, upgrade
[15:29] <RoyK> 10GB of disk space is hilarious
[15:31] <Anirban1987> RoyK : Ya, upgrade is possible . Giv me necessary web links for "sysstat" to install .
[15:32] <RoyK> apt-get install sysstat
[15:33] <RoyK> edit /etc/default/sysstat to enable it
[15:33] <RoyK> start it with /etc/init.d/sysstat start
[15:33] <RoyK> use the 'sar' command to view system activity
[15:33] <RoyK> but then I'm off - catch you later
[16:07] <Anirban1987>  How to use the "sar" command to view the amount of RAM consumed ?
[17:12] <n0gear> how do i set up my network manually? Automatic didnt work in installation? only lo now
[17:14] <n0gear> actually thats weird, but it doesnt even show eth0?!
[17:17] <qman__> n0gear, use ifconfig -a
[17:17] <qman__> you can configure your network in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:26] <n0gear> hmmm it doesnt get ip addr from dhcp? i dont have a router and all other comps get an ip straight from ISP ... anything i could edit manaually?
[17:36] <qman__> n0gear, /etc/network/interfaces is where you configure it to use DHCP or a static IP
[17:36] <qman__> but, just for testing
[17:36] <qman__> you can use ifconfig to set a manual ip, or you can use dhclient to try and pick up a DHCP lease
[17:37] <qman__> first, use ifconfig -a to see if your interface shows up or not
[17:37] <qman__> the default 'ifconfig' hides unconfigured interfaces, but -a shows all of them
[17:37] <qman__> if it doesn't show up with -a, you need drivers
[17:39] <n0gear> qman__: yes eth0 now shows. i put all the auto eth0 things to /interfaces
[17:40] <n0gear> but for somereason it doesnt get ip from isp?
[17:43] <n0gear> because i dont have router i dont think i can invent an ip address for the server??? need to get assigned from my ISP right?
[17:44] <Tom_Ass> n0gear, how many IPs can you get from your ISP?
[17:45] <n0gear> 5. Only 2 in use at the moment ... unless i've got 'visitors' on my WLAN. Whats the reason the autoconf didnt work on install
[17:47] <DormantOden> hay, after I use useradd to create a user what default password do they have?
[17:50] <Tom_Ass> DormantOden, you type in a password when you add the user, https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/user-management.html for more info
[17:51] <DormantOden> lies
[17:59] <Tom_Ass> DormantOden, then you can change it with "sudo passwd <user>", then you will be prompted to type a new password
[18:00] <DormantOden> =P cheers
[18:01] <Tom_Ass> np
[18:01] <DormantOden> now i just have to remember what file I have to change bin/bash -> bin/false in =/
[18:01] <DormantOden> any idea?
[18:01] <Tom_Ass> and I think the recommended way to add users are in that link I gave you
[18:01] <Tom_Ass> no
[18:01] <Tom_Ass> idea
[18:01] <Tom_Ass> =/
[18:01] <DormantOden> its to stop people login in
[18:01] <DormantOden> ...or getting to bash
[18:02] <DormantOden> unless theres a new fangled way =P
[18:13] <qman__> DormantOden, /etc/passwd
[18:13] <qman__> you can also use usermod
[18:14] <qman__> n0gear, you either need to configure the IP statically, or inform your ISP of the MAC address, they can't just know what box is yours ;)
[18:15] <qman__> DormantOden, if you didn't set the password during creation, there is no password set
[18:15] <qman__> and the user cannot log on
[18:17] <DormantOden> ah, that explains why I couldnt login then :P
[18:17] <DormantOden> kl, its all working nicley now
[18:17] <DormantOden> =
[18:17] <DormantOden> * =D
[18:21] <n0gear> qman__: might i use dyndns address as a ip address?
[18:22] <qman__> no, you need an IP
[18:22] <qman__> DNS is just a convenience
[18:23] <qman__> DNS can be used to host multiple websites on one IP, or other similar tasks, but every node needs an IP address, either on the net, routed, or NATed
[18:23] <n0gear> damn, i think im screwed unless i get a NAT router
[18:25] <Tom_Ass> n0gear, have you checked so you don't have any unwanted w-lan visitors using up all your IPs?
[18:26] <qman__> n0gear, you can also use a linux box with iptables as a NAT router
[18:26] <qman__> though that gets complicated
[18:27] <n0gear> okay i disconnected wlan now. lets see if that helps
[18:29] <Tom_Ass> it can be quite power consuming too
[18:29] <n0gear> no luck
[18:29] <Tom_Ass> :|
[18:30] <qman__> in order to receive a DHCP address, the ISP has to identify you in some way, usually that means giving them your MAC addresses
[18:30] <qman__> it depends on your ISP and connection type
[18:30] <qman__> you should call and find out
[18:31] <n0gear> yep. unfortunately customer service not open today :(
[18:31] <qman__> ah
[18:32] <Eviltechie> How do you setup subdomains with apache?
[18:33] <qman__> by subodmains, do you mean dynamic subdomains or just a couple?
[18:33] <Eviltechie> qman__:  What's the difference?
[18:33] <qman__> what I mean by that is
[18:33] <qman__> do you want to have it automatically create subdomains for you, or do you just want to create a few sites manually?
[18:34] <Eviltechie> qman__:  Just a few
[18:34] <qman__> for that, you configure your sites using a virtualhost configuration
[18:34] <qman__> fortunately, ubuntu defaults to this kind of setup
[18:34] <qman__> in the configuration file for the website, in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[18:34] <qman__> you set each site's file like this
[18:35] <qman__> <Virtualhost subdomain.domain.tld:80>
[18:35] <qman__> instead of using an IP or just *
[18:35] <qman__> set up multiple configurations, one for each site
[18:35] <qman__> you can use the default one as a template
[18:35] <qman__> then enable them with the a2ensite command
[18:36] <qman__> for that to work, you need a working DNS setup, and you can't have any sites listening based on IP
[18:37] <sseiersen> can I make ubuntu as a boot from lan server?
[18:37] <sseiersen> to boot systems from the network?
[18:38] <qman__> sseiersen, yes, look up LTSP
[18:38] <sseiersen> ok
[18:38] <qman__> IIRC the alternate install disc has this capability as an install feature
[18:41] <Eviltechie> qman__: Like this? http://pastebin.com/m5a9f670e
[18:41] <qman__> yes
[18:41] <qman__> you create each of your subdomains that way, and enable them
[18:41] <Eviltechie> qman__: Ok
[18:41] <qman__> and if DNS works correctly, the sites will work correctly
[18:45] <Eviltechie> qman__: The subdomain works, but the regular one doesn't. It mirrors the subdomain.
[18:46] <qman__> did you make sure to point the two sites to different file paths?
[18:47] <qman__> DocumentRoot
[18:47] <Eviltechie> qman__:
[18:47] <Eviltechie> 	DocumentRoot /var/home
[18:48] <qman__> each site should point to a different root
[18:48] <qman__> to the files for each site
[18:48] <Eviltechie> qman__: They do. I was having this problem before when I tried this another way.
[18:50] <qman__> hmm
[18:50] <qman__> looks like there is another approach
[18:50] <qman__> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/1.3/vhosts/name-based.html
[18:51] <qman__> using ServerName instead of the virtualhost directive to define which site is which
[18:51] <qman__> so
[18:51] <qman__> in the main apache configuration, you set
[18:51] <qman__> NameVirtualHost *
[18:51] <qman__> then each site will contain
[18:51] <qman__> <Virtualhost *>
[18:51] <Eviltechie> First, how do I undo the sites avalaible thing?
[18:51] <qman__> ServerName domain.tld
[18:51] <qman__> oh
[18:51] <qman__> a2dissite
[18:52] <Eviltechie> Ok
[18:53] <Eviltechie> Like that? http://pastebin.com/m3f727758
[18:53] <qman__> yes
[18:54] <qman__> and make sure NameVirtualHost * is used, but only once, not in each site
[18:54] <Eviltechie> That did the exact same thing, mirrored the main domain off the sub domain
[18:54] <qman__> preferrably in the main configuration, /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[18:54] <Eviltechie> I put this in httpd.conf, right/
[18:55] <qman__> well
[18:55] <qman__> preferrably the sites would be defined in individual site files
[18:55] <qman__> and the NameVirtualHost * would be in the main configuration, either httpd.conf or apache2.conf
[18:55] <qman__> but, if it's all in one file it'll still work
[18:56] <qman__> the separation is only for organization and convenience
[18:56] <Eviltechie> What is this namevirtualhost thing you speak of?
[18:56] <qman__> NameVirtualHost *
[18:56] <Eviltechie> Where does it go?
[18:56] <qman__> literally, should be in the configuration somewhere
[18:56] <qman__> but only once
[18:56] <qman__> and not within a virtualhost section
[18:57] <qman__> I would put it in apache2.conf
[18:57] <Eviltechie> I just put it in httpd.conf
[18:57] <qman__> that's fine
[18:57] <qman__> apache must be restarted afterward, or at least have the configuration reloaded
[18:58] <Eviltechie> Now the subdomain is mirroring off the main one
[18:59] <qman__> try changing the main site to www.site.tld
[18:59] <qman__> but place it first
[19:00] <Eviltechie> How do I do that?
[19:00] <qman__> like
[19:00] <qman__> in the ServerName directive, change the name from domain.tld to www.domain.tld
[19:00] <qman__> on the main site
[19:00] <qman__> and leave the subdomain as sub.domain.tld
[19:01] <qman__> and as long as the main site comes first in the configuration, it'll be the default
[19:01] <qman__> so one who does not define www. will still get to the main site
[19:01] <Eviltechie> Where is this directive?
[19:01] <qman__> in the virtualhost configuration
[19:01] <Eviltechie> And where is that?
[19:01] <qman__> for the main site
[19:01] <Eviltechie> Yeah
[19:02] <qman__> inside the <Virtualhost *>
[19:02] <Eviltechie> Oh
[19:02] <qman__> you should have two of those, one for each site
[19:02] <Eviltechie> Oh
[19:04] <Eviltechie> Here is what httpd.conf looks like now http://pastebin.com/m46601263
[19:04] <qman__> are all sites in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ disabled?
[19:05] <Eviltechie> I don't know
[19:05] <Eviltechie> I disabled the one I made
[19:05] <qman__> you need to disable the default site too
[19:05] <Eviltechie> But the default and default-ssl are in there
[19:05] <qman__> a2dissite default
[19:05] <qman__> yeah, you need to disable them both to do it that way
[19:06] <qman__> if all sites are disabled, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ should be empty
[19:07] <Eviltechie> I think it works now
[19:10] <Eviltechie> Ok, all good. Thanks
[19:10] <qman__> yep
[19:10] <Eviltechie> Just one thing
[19:10] <Eviltechie> [Sun Jul 05 18:06:13 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts  ... waiting [Sun Jul 05 18:06:14 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[19:10] <Eviltechie> That happened when I restarted the server
[19:11] <qman__> ah
[19:11] <qman__> somewhere in the configuration "NameVirtualHost *:80' exists
[19:11] <qman__> probably in apache2.conf
[19:11] <qman__> look for it and remove it, should be all set
[19:11] <Eviltechie> NameVirtualHost * <--Remove that?
[19:12] <qman__> no
[19:12] <qman__> you need that, but one that says *:80 should be removed
[19:12] <qman__> a remnant from the default configuration
[19:12] <DormantOden> anyone know how I can stop my server getting stuck on "Checking battery..." when shutting down?
[19:12] <DormantOden> or even why it does?
[19:13] <Eviltechie> qman__: The only instance is NameVirtualHost * in my httpd.conf
[19:14] <dbz3222> hi there i'm trying to understand why the deadline schedule is in use in the 9.04 kernel vs the cfq one
[19:14] <dbz3222> can someone explain why this is picked?
[19:15] <qman__> Eviltechie, the error means it's in there somewhere, hang on a sec
[19:16] <qman__> for FILE in `find /etc/apache2`; do echo $FILE; grep NameVirtualHost $FILE; done
[19:17] <qman__> run that in a terminal, it'll help you find it
[19:20] <dbz3222> qman__: what are you doing that for ?
[19:21] <Eviltechie> qman__: That chucked out a bunch of files
[19:21] <dbz3222> you can just run grep -R ....
[19:23] <Eviltechie> qman__: It's in ports.conf
[19:25] <Eviltechie> qman__: Should I just take it out?
[19:25] <qman__> yes, you can comment it if you're unsure
[19:27] <Eviltechie> qman__: Ok, no errors on restart
[19:40] <danlii> I tried to install a dhcp server, but encountered this error message instead "dhcp3-server: Depends: dhcp3-common (= 3.1.1-5ubuntu8) but 3.1.1-6 is to be installed" - what can i do to resolve this?
[19:40] <qman__> what method did you go about to install the dhcp package
[19:41] <danlii> sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server
[19:41] <qman__> then you need to check your repositories
[19:41] <qman__> somehow you installed a newer version of dhcp3-common than is available from your current set
[19:42] <qman__> so either you need to update your repositories, or you previously used incorrect ones
[19:42] <danlii> Actually, I "upgraded" my system from Debian 5 just by changing the repositories and do aptitude dist-upgrade...
[19:42] <ssm> ouch
[19:42] <qman__> that's the problem
[19:42] <qman__> you're pretty much screwed now
[19:42] <qman__> you've got major version conflicts
[19:42] <danlii> But removing and reinstalling dhcp3-common did the trick actually, so thank you for pointing me in the right direction. :)
[19:43] <ssm> danlii: you _should_ probably backup, reinstall, and restore your data and configs
[19:43] <qman__> yeah, that's likely not the only version conflict you have
[19:43] <qman__> and some of them can be rather nasty
[19:43] <danlii> ssm: Nah, too much trouble. I'd rather fix problems as i encounter them. ;)
[19:43] <ssm> or at least, keep good backups :)
[19:43] <danlii> Everything else seems to work.
[19:44] <danlii> It's just my firewall, so there's not much to backup.
[19:44] <ssm> danlii: good.  Now, make sure you have backups of your config and data :)
[19:44] <ssm> ah
[19:51] <dbz3222> so why should i be using deadline vs cfq on my server?
[20:31] <Eviltechie> What's the group you add a user to make them an admin?
[20:32] <Eviltechie> Is it sudo?
[20:42] <pmatulis> Eviltechie: admin
[20:43] <Eviltechie> pmatulis: It says that group dosen't exist.
[20:43] <Eviltechie> useradd: unknown group admin
[20:43] <pmatulis> Eviltechie: what was your full command?
[20:43] <Eviltechie> # useradd -G admin ivan
[20:44] <pmatulis> Eviltechie: try '$ sudo useradd ivan admin'
[20:44] <pmatulis> adduser rather
[20:45] <Eviltechie> ivan is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[20:45] <pmatulis> Eviltechie: the user issuing the command *must* have access to root privileges
[20:45] <Eviltechie> There is no admin group. I checked /etc/group
[20:46] <pmatulis> then you erased it
[20:46] <Eviltechie> pmatulis: The only user that has those privlidges is root
[20:46] <pmatulis> Eviltechie: by default, the user created during install is a member of admin group
[20:47] <Eviltechie> I'm in a vps, the only user that was created was root
[20:47] <pmatulis> this is the user you should be using to have access to root privileges
[20:47] <pmatulis> and what is a vps?
[20:47] <Eviltechie> Virtual Private Server
[20:48] <pmatulis> Eviltechie: how did you install it?
[20:49] <Eviltechie> I set how much disc space, the root password, and clicked the install button. Then I waited 30 seconds, and sshed into the root account.
[20:51] <pmatulis> i'm not familiar with VPS.  all i can say is that i don't think you have Ubuntu there
[20:52] <Eviltechie> It's ubuntu, just not how I'm used to it.
[20:52] <pmatulis> output to: '$ lsb_release -a'
[20:53] <Eviltechie> No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 9.04 Release:	9.04 Codename:	jaunty
[20:53] <ajmitch> you could just add the admin group & add the %admin line back into /etc/sudoers
[20:56] <Eviltechie> Ok, now for a silly question, where do yo type your password in evolution?
[20:57] <ajmitch> no idea, I haven't used it for years :)
[20:58] <pmatulis> Eviltechie: evolution is not a valid topic for this channel
[21:07] <n0gearII> qman__: DUDE guess what was wrong with nor getting IP!?
[21:41] <n0gearII> how do i update manually from cli?
[21:42] <qman__> change your IP? ifconfig eth0 12.34.56.78 netmask 255.0.0.0
[21:43] <qman__> change the IP and mask with the ones you're supposed to have
[21:46] <n0gearII> qman__: ip problem is now ok! didnt realise i had 2 network cards on my comp :)
[21:47] <n0gearII> but now i need to install updates manually. how do i do that?
[23:04] <balloooza> hi, dose anyone here know how to get the kernel source to compile (or install I guess) the vmware server (2.0.0) on jaunty, the kernel-source-devel appears to be gone
[23:07] <balloooza> helloooo
[23:15] <ajmitch> then you pro0bably need linux-headers-generic or linux-headers-server, depending on which kernel you're using
[23:16] <balloooza> ajmitch, thanks, I will see if it was what I needed
[23:40] <ghostlines> hi all
[23:41] <ghostlines> I'm telnetting to may postfix smtp server on ubuntu 9.04, and when i run the starttls command i get this error 502 5.5.1 Error: command not implemented
[23:41] <ghostlines> anyone know why this may be