[00:02] <Yanick_> anybody home?
[00:05] <contrast> !ask
[00:05] <contrast> ;)
[00:06] <Yanick_> contrast, that's what I did, scroll up
[00:06] <contrast> sorry, i just joined.
[00:06] <Yanick_> well, there it was :
[00:06] <Yanick_> Hi, Is there a way to make Jaunty restart properly after suspend/hibernate? Right now, the screen turns on but only to display some random pixels and everything else seems frozen. The network appears to reconnect itself and application to restart correctly but USB/keybaord and all the rest are just frozen. I have a Dell XPS 16 with Kubuntu 64bit
[00:06] <rysiek|pl> Yanick_: probably nobody knows; try searching google for your laptop make and model and kubuntu jaunty
[00:07] <contrast> Yanick_: are you running desktop effects on an ati card?
[00:07] <Yanick_> rysiek|pl, I did. Most newsgroups I find are talking gibbrish to me, others speak about problems *going* into suspend. I have problem resuming. After reading, I would guess that resume doesn't wake up my video card, but I don't know
[00:08] <Yanick_> contrast, yes
[00:08] <contrast> Yanick_: turn off desktop effects before suspending/hibernating
[00:08] <Yanick_> contrast, I'm not sure how.... besides, it should be automatic, and also automatically restarting compiz after resume
[00:09] <contrast> Yanick_: it's as simple as one click each after you add shortcuts for it.
[00:10] <rysiek|pl> Yanick_: it should. but it isn't as you can see. so contrast is trying to debug it a bit
[00:10] <contrast> Yanick_: if you're just using kwin's special effects, there's a plasma widget in the repos (plasma-widget-toggle-compositing) that allows one-click toggling of kwin's desktop effects.
[00:10] <Yanick_> contrast, the problem I just had is that the laptop went suspend because it was on battery (2 hours remaining, so I didn't worry) I don't manually put the laptop on suspend, and this process (if it happens again) should be automatic
[00:11] <racecar56> test, does anyone see this
[00:11] <KoRn-> racecar56: I see ya.
[00:11] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: nope
[00:11] <rysiek|pl> KoRn-: aww, you've ruined everything ;)
[00:11] <KoRn-> Sorry.
[00:11] <melhisedek> how can i make links open in firefox and not konqueror?
[00:11] <KoRn-> Haven't been on IRC in years.
[00:11] <rysiek|pl> Yanick_: one of the ways of debugging is limiting things that may b0rk the process
[00:12] <contrast> Yanick_: the reason it's not automatic is it isn't apci's (the layer which handles suspend/resume) job to change the window manager, and if ati knew how to make a driver, it'd have no reason to.
[00:12] <racecar56> my sound isn't working
[00:12] <contrast> melhisedek: System Settings -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
[00:12] <rysiek|pl> Yanick_: so you can either wait for somebody to give you the Magic Command to Fix Things (hint: won't happen), or try to help us help you ;)
[00:13] <melhisedek> contrast, thanks a lot mate!
[00:13] <Yanick_> rysiek|pl, this is what I'm reading so far : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/148160
[00:13] <contrast> melhisedek: np
[00:13] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: some specifics, maybe?
[00:13] <racecar56> i have a intel alc1200
[00:13] <racecar56> sound has worked on here before but not now
[00:13] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: kubuntu jaunty?
[00:14] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: yeah
[00:14] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: when did sound stop working? some upgrades?
[00:14] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: no
[00:14] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: it dosen't work
[00:14] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: i resintalled
[00:14] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: *reinstalled
[00:14] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: you said it worked; I'm asking: when did it *sstop* working
[00:14] <rysiek|pl> ah
[00:14] <thesandman> Does anyone know  how do you defrag on linux?
[00:14] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: so it worked before reinstallation?
[00:14] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: it stopped when i reinstalled
[00:15] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: yes
[00:15] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: i'm on 9.04 amd64
[00:15] <EagleScreen> when I press Ctrl Alt Supr (Ctrl Alt Del) in tty, computer reboots. I know there is a config file to change this to shutdown instead, which file is it?
[00:15] <rysiek|pl> ok; did you install the same version (e.g. kubuntu jaunty), or did you have some other version previously
[00:15] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: same
[00:15] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: before was normal ubuntu though
[00:15] <rysiek|pl> humm
[00:15] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: this is a command line install
[00:15] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: but i put xorg kde and all that stuff
[00:15] <rysiek|pl> ?
[00:16] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: how did you install all that? by installing kubuntu-desktop?
[00:16] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: no
[00:16] <rysiek|pl> Yanick_: is your card nvidia?
[00:16] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: just installing kde, i guess i should get kbuntu-desktop
[00:17] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: yeah, try that: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:17] <Yanick_> rysiek|pl, nope, ATI
[00:17] <rysiek|pl> then don't read a bugreport concerning nvidia ;)
[00:17] <rysiek|pl> Yanick_: ^^^^^^^^
[00:17] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: does it make a difference if i use aptitude or apt-get
[00:17] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: not really; aptitude handles orphaned dependancies better
[00:17] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: k
[00:18] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: i.e. when you install some-package that needs some-other; then remove some-package (and some-other is not needed), aptitude will delete some-other, too
[00:18] <Yanick_> rysiek|pl, there are not many threads concerning this problem, even though it seems to be widespread
[00:18] <rysiek|pl> Yanick_: try disabling desktop effects, and then suspending by hand
[00:18] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: what the heck it wants to install nvidia drivers
[00:19] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: WHY?
[00:19] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: do you have nvidia?
[00:19] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: no
[00:19] <rysiek|pl> what is that p[ackage's name?
[00:19] <melhisedek> can you make xchat open links as I click them? Not to have to right click on link and chose "Open in browser"
[00:19] <Yanick_> rysiek|pl, I will look at that later. gotta go. but thanks to the help
[00:19] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: nvidia-180-modaliases
[00:19] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: there is a nvidia-71-modaliases too
[00:20] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: and a 96
[00:20] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: and nvidia-common
[00:20] <Flare183> Can Konversation run/use mIRC scripts? (I'm thinking no)
[00:20] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: O_o
[00:20] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: these are not drivers
[00:20] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: k
[00:20] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: i have an ati radeon hd 2400 pro to be exact (and it fails......)
[00:20] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: these are only files that allow Ubuntu to detect whether or not it's nvidia in your box
[00:20] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: ah
[00:21] <rysiek|pl> so just go with the flow and install those
[00:21] <KoRn-> While I'm here.. I found nothing helpful in forums, so I'll lay this out as simply as possible...
[00:21] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: kk
[00:21] <rysiek|pl> whoa, 5 threads already
[00:21] <KoRn-> I run Intel 945 for graphics and have never had this problem before, but I freeze on logout from KDE.  I'm runnin 9.04 converted to Kubuntu and everything worked fine up until today.
[00:22] <racecar56> your gfx card fails
[00:22] <rysiek|pl> KoRn-: where there any updates today?
[00:22] <KoRn-> I haven't downloaded any updates.
[00:22] <afeijo> its possible to have 2 screens + mouse + keyboard to 2 different people use my case?
[00:22] <KoRn-> I went through and fixed my grub menu.lst after removing selinux addons, but everything else now works fine.
[00:23] <racecar56> the heck is selinux anyway
[00:23] <rysiek|pl> KoRn-: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 -> and use the SAFE configuration
[00:23] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: Security Enhanced Linux
[00:23] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: ah
[00:23] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: kk
[00:23] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: security additions for linux, more precise ACLs and such
[00:23] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: kk
[00:23] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: my internet is so slow :
[00:23] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: :|
[00:23] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: 204 kb/s
[00:24] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: do as chuck norris did - go to an internet cafe and download Teh Internet onto a floppy disk
[00:24] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: kb/s or KB/s
[00:24] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: kB/s
[00:24] <KoRn-> rysiek|pl: I'm not sure if this is the same thing, but ragarding the UXA support, I've already followed an Ubuntu forum to fix it.  My graphics card now works great with everything but the logout.
[00:24] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: mine is 100KB/s, so don't whine ;)
[00:25] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: oh great
[00:25] <rysiek|pl> KoRn-: now that's interesting
[00:25] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: how could you USE that
[00:25] <KoRn-> It's not a straight freeze.  It's a black screen that won't let me open any other tty terminals.  The only response I've gotten was to tap my power button and Kubuntu shuts down like normal.
[00:25] <KoRn-> regarding*
[00:25] <rysiek|pl> KoRn-: try doing the latest updates, then and see if that helps (there's a chance it will)
[00:25] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: but it isn't as bad as my now dead laptop
[00:25] <KoRn-> alright.. brb
[00:25] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: downloaded at 1 byte a second
[00:25] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: and now it downloads nothin
[00:26] <rysiek|pl> hit shappens
[00:26] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: not to mention it's hard drive was ata, which is stupid
[00:26] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: on a not even 2 year old laptop
[00:27] <racecar56> anyone considering buying a hp pavilion dv9000 STOP NOW
[00:27] <KoRn-> rysiek|pl: I updated my repositories and there are still no updates.  It still worked after my last round of updates, so I assume I'm on the latest stable driver.
[00:27] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: that's not really important
[00:27] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: i know but it's old interface new laptop
[00:27] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: which i see as crazy
[00:28] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: your hdd is probably a 5400rpm one, so ATA is plenty anyways
[00:28] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: it is 5400 rpm
[00:28] <rysiek|pl> yeah, almost every laptop is
[00:28] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: this one im on now is a nice 7200 rpm 500gb sata
[00:28] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: desktop pc
[00:28] <rysiek|pl> people buy 3, 4GiB of RAM to "speed the system up", but their hdd lags behind
[00:29] <rysiek|pl> so thay can take those gigs of ram and shove it ;)
[00:29] <DOOM777> 4GB of ram still speeds the system up
[00:29] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: and my ancient other computer has a 7200 (i think) rpm eide hard drive
[00:29] <DOOM777> because there is no need to use pagefile
[00:29] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: 1gb ram
[00:29] <DOOM777> also, they have the 10000RPM raptors
[00:29] <rysiek|pl> DOOM777: yeah, when you have the system and apps loaded already
[00:29] <racecar56> good gracious
[00:30] <racecar56> that's a lot of rpm
[00:30] <rysiek|pl> I prefer deb...
[00:30] <racecar56> i bet those things are fast :)
[00:30] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: haha
[00:30] <DOOM777> rysiek|pl: true, startup takes a few dozen seconds. But working is lag-less
[00:30] <rysiek|pl> DOOM777: but when you're loading helluva lot of small files (read: system boot-up), your gigs of ram will give you nothing, if you're on a shitty hdd
[00:30] <rysiek|pl> yeah
[00:31] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: i have a 5400 rpm 10.2gb ata hard drive around somewhere
[00:31] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: it's 9 years old
[00:31] <rysiek|pl> racecar56: I have a 4GiB and 8GiB ata drives in my home server
[00:31] <DOOM777> racecar56: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014%201035507821%201036007800&name=3.5%22
[00:31] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: haha
[00:31] <rysiek|pl> both have 10+ years
[00:31] <rysiek|pl> and are humming along nicely
[00:32] <rysiek|pl> just yesterday I bought two 1TiB disks for backups/data
[00:32] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: ever seen a wd caviar 33100
[00:32] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: ha ha ha
[00:32] <rysiek|pl> but the system will stay on those two 4Gib/8GiB old guys
[00:33] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: caviar 33100 is 3.1 gb i think, it's ata of course
[00:33] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: its from 1997
[00:34] <rysiek|pl> I'd have to check my disks
[00:34] <rysiek|pl> might be older
[00:34] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: haha
[00:34] <rysiek|pl> but don't really feel like diving into that dust
[00:35] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: that 10.2gb disk i have is the oldest hard drive i have
[00:35] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: and yes it works
[00:35] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: yay it's done the install
[00:36] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: brb
[00:39] <rgarcia> does anybody know a program which change the quality?
[00:39] <rgarcia> of the music?
[00:39] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: and you need it for?
[00:40] <rgarcia> change the quality to use it in my cellphone
[00:42] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: quality or encoding ;)
[00:42] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: gimme a sec
[00:42] <rgarcia> ok...
[00:43] <rgarcia> i don't know...i have to change stereo to mono, and 128hz to 90hz
[00:43] <rgarcia> i think it's that
[00:43] <rysiek|pl> 128kbps, not hz
[00:44] <rysiek|pl> well, you can certainly use k3b for that
[00:44] <rysiek|pl> but it's an overkill a bit
[00:44] <rgarcia> yes...sorry
[00:44] <rysiek|pl> there was something called SoundKonverter
[00:44] <rysiek|pl> no problem ;)
[00:45] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: yup, soundkonverter should be what you seek
[00:45] <rgarcia> let me see...
[00:45] <rgarcia> is that in  the repository?
[00:46] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: yup
[00:46] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: at least in hardy and jaunty
[00:46] <melhisedek> can I have doubleclick to open folders somehow
[00:46] <rysiek|pl> humm
[00:46] <rysiek|pl> yes
[00:47] <rysiek|pl> melhisedek: System Settings -> Mouse and Keyboard
[00:47] <melhisedek> rysiek|pl, thanks a lot mate!
[00:47] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[00:48] <lily> necesito saber cpomo instalar ares
[00:48] <lily> ??
[00:48] <rysiek|pl> lily: english please, or /join some localised ubuntu channels, like #ubuntu-pt or #ubuntu-es
[00:48] <rgarcia> lily: vc  entendeu?
[00:56] <rgarcia> rysiek|pl: thanks a lot, that's the program that i was looking for
[00:56] <melhisedek> can clock be forced to show 24 hours time and not am/pm?
[00:56] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: happy to help
[00:56] <rysiek|pl> melhisedek: which clock, the one on the panel?
[00:57] <melhisedek> yes
[00:59] <rgarcia> rysiek|pl: do you know which program that could I put in my desktop to show the weather? I'm under jaunty
[01:00] <rysiek|pl> melhisedek: Systemn Settings -> Country/Region and Language -> Time format
[01:00] <rysiek|pl> melhisedek: it might be named differently, I was translating to english from polish here ;)
[01:01] <melhisedek> hehe ok
[01:01] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: right click on the desktop and click "add widgets", search there
[01:01] <melhisedek> rysiek|pl, thanks once again mate! You rock!
[01:02] <Dayla> how do i compress an image file without changing the format?
[01:02] <rysiek|pl> melhisedek: nope; I just do a quick search in system settings ;)
[01:02] <rgarcia> i can't use superkaramba right?
[01:02] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: on the contrary, plasma supports superkaramba's themes
[01:02] <rysiek|pl> as far as I know
[01:03] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: in the "Add widget" window there's a "install widgets" button
[01:03] <rgarcia> really, so i can install liquid weather?
[01:03] <rysiek|pl> if you click it, you get also a superkaramba support
[01:04] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: probably; I use "Weather Forecast" plasmoid
[01:04] <rgarcia> is it there?
[01:05] <rysiek|pl> Dayla: if it's png, jpeg or gif, you can change the level of compression; if not, you can zip or tar it
[01:05] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: why don't you check yourself?
[01:05] <rysiek|pl> rgarcia: if not, Install new widgets -> download from the net
[01:05] <rgarcia> ok i'll do it, because i didnt find it there
[01:07] <Adola> How do I stop Kubuntu from restoring my session at last shudown?
[01:08] <Adola> It takes over a minute to start up because > 10 windows open.
[01:08] <Adola> < 10
[01:08] <Adola> Sorry :P
[01:09] <rysiek|pl> Adola: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Management
[01:13] <chris_> hello everyone
[01:18] <chris_> Can anyone help me with pidgin?
[01:19] <chris_> or wanna buy one? :p
[01:19] <chris_> i guess that
[01:19] <chris_> is a no?
[01:20] <chris_> i wonder what this button does?
[01:21] <chris_> sweet!
[01:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> Hello everybody.
[01:21] <chris_> hola gun
[01:21] <gundam_rx78nt1> I decided to install my portable kubuntu intall on to my laptop permanently.
[01:22] <chris_> how's that working out fer ya?
[01:22] <gundam_rx78nt1> So I am going to install it, but how do I get a list of all the packages  I have installed on my portable so I can install them on my laptop?
[01:23] <chris_> add remove programs should give you an idea of what's on your computer
[01:23] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: dpkg -l
[01:23] <rysiek|pl> or, to get *just the names*:
[01:24] <chris_> make sure you have the installed applications drop down selected
[01:24] <rysiek|pl> dpkg -l | awk '{ print $2 }'
[01:24] <chris_> so anywho.........
[01:24] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: dpkg -l | egrep '^ii' | awk '{ print $2 }'
[01:25] <rysiek|pl> that's the thing.
[01:25] <rysiek|pl> it'll give you the list of all installed packages, just the names
[01:25]  * rysiek|pl brb
[01:26] <gundam_rx78nt1> rysiek|pl, ummm... how do I get it to install all of those packages after I install a fresh clean version of kubuntu 9.04?
[01:27] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: just save this list to some txt file
[01:27] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: then replace all the endlines with spaces
[01:28] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: and then, after installation, just type in terminal:
[01:28] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: sudo aptitude install <paste_those_packages_here>
[01:31] <gundam_rx78nt1> great. so I can make a diff of the list from a clean install to this list I created and add those packages... correct? and if so... awesome.
[01:31] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: yup
[01:31] <rysiek|pl> you can even automate the task
[01:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> you got my attention...
[01:32] <rysiek|pl> well... let's first save our list of packages to some file:
[01:32] <gundam_rx78nt1> done
[01:32] <rysiek|pl> dpkg -l | egrep '^ii' | awk '{ print $2 }' > packages_9.10
[01:33] <rysiek|pl> ok, now we can install a clean 9.10 on the laptop and do the same with the default packages
[01:33] <rysiek|pl> dpkg -l | egrep '^ii' | awk '{ print $2 }' > packages_9.10.clean
[01:33] <rysiek|pl> now, creating the diff is not necessary, as aptitude is smart and will not install packages that are already installed
[01:33] <gundam_rx78nt1> great.
[01:34] <rysiek|pl> so, the *.clean file is actually not needed
[01:34]  * rysiek|pl thinks slowly today
[01:34] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: after the clean installation, just copy the packages_9.10 file
[01:35] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: and do:
[01:35] <rysiek|pl> sudo aptitude install $( cat packages_9.10 | tr '\n' ' ' )
[01:36] <rysiek|pl> aptitude will sort out which packages need to be installed, and will install them
[01:36] <rysiek|pl> so we're down to two commands ;)
[01:36] <gundam_rx78nt1> rysiek|pl: where were you when I started my linux admin class?
[01:37] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: no idea, probably drinking beer
[01:37] <gundam_rx78nt1> you would have saved me some headache and had some good BBQ as pay for your help... LOL.
[01:37] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: all you need is a bit of audacity with the terminal, and knowledge how to use man and google ;)
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> gundam_rx78nt1: experiment and read, and you'll be doing Teh Automation in notime ;)
[01:38] <gundam_rx78nt1> Ok, thanks. I will do that once I get back from walking the dogs.  I will let you know of my success.  thank you.
[01:38] <Prankster> :S
[01:38] <rysiek|pl> no prob
[01:38] <poetbox> Someone told me not to use KDE4.1 which I'm using now~~
[01:39] <R0CkEt> hola
[02:00] <mr---t-> I have a problem with my new motherboard.  I have sound, but my kmix does nothing. I can't mute or change volume.  My setup is listed here.  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=b2f3c60e49e5db33802757ef1c588dc2092baa82   Any ideas?
[02:07] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: back, should i restart
[02:07] <racecar56> rysiek|pl: from installing kubuntu-desktop
[02:08] <rysiek|pl> methinks not
[02:10] <zorael> mr---t-: Make sure kmix has its master channel set appropriately
[02:10] <zorael> mr---t-: it could have defaulted to system beep or something otherwise wrong
[02:11] <mr---t-> I have tried every channel possible ,same result
[02:12]  * zorael shrugs
[02:12] <mr---t-> I have sound, audio, system sounds et al, just no control.
[02:13]  * rysiek|pl goes to get some sleep
[02:13] <rysiek|pl> cu all
[02:15] <mr---t-> I'll try in #alsa
[02:15] <zorael> mr---t-: Mmkay. I had similar issues after a fresh karmic install. Then kmix had apparently decided my dvb card should be the main card for the whole system, and I was changing *its* volume.
[02:15] <zorael> might be a good idea, yeah
[02:15] <zorael> Although it could be a kmix issue entirely, I guess
[02:15] <zorael> (as in my case)
[02:22] <darthanubis> how does one associate files to programs in KDE?
[02:22] <darthanubis> I don't seem to be able to find the option in system preferences
[02:25] <darthanubis> http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/unassigned-bugs/2009-February/006519.html
[02:25] <darthanubis> guess I can't change me
[02:25] <darthanubis> em
[02:26] <javizoso> I just installed Kubuntu yesterday (1st day using linux). I saw a program called "Kompile", and tried installing it, but i ran into some trouble.. I'm wondering wether the trouble is that its an old (incompatible) program, or I'm missing some kind of file....
[02:26] <javizoso> The whole problem is after ./configure,  i try 'make' and it ends in plenty of errors
[02:28] <darthanubis> javizoso: why are you even trying to compile anything on your first day? What is there you need to compile? Ever program you need is already compiled. I'd find something else to waste your evening on.
[02:28] <javizoso> Well, those were the installation instructions.
[02:29] <bazhang> what does 'kompile' do javizoso
[02:29] <javizoso> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30223
[02:29] <darthanubis> it makes install tarballs easier
[02:30] <bazhang> better to find something in the repos
[02:30] <darthanubis> Kompile is a KDE interface for automatic execution of configurations, compilation and installation of source tarball.
[02:30] <javizoso> ok, thanks..
[02:30] <bazhang> okay. no need to install tons of tarballs on Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[02:30] <javizoso> i was still having trouble with some installations... i found that i had to install a lot of things to get ./configure running well... is this normal?
[02:31] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/+bug/330201
[02:32] <darthanubis> fixed how? I'm using 4.3RC
[02:32] <darthanubis> I see no "fix"
[02:32] <darthanubis> where exactly is the file association settings?
[02:32] <darthanubis> is=are
[02:35] <darthanubis> found it
[02:35] <darthanubis> konq. settings
[02:35] <darthanubis> of all places
[02:38] <ale_> hello
[02:39] <xuzas> !ot
[02:40] <xuzas> buennas
[02:42] <DOOM777> how come there is no man page for cd?
[02:42] <darthanubis> DOOM777: http://www.ss64.com/bash/cd.html
[02:42] <Tacosarecool> hello
[02:43] <DOOM777> lol, i found it online
[02:43] <DOOM777> but 'man cd' did nothing
[02:43] <Tacosarecool> Why is the kde rc look foggy text
[02:43] <benny_> hellooo
[02:43] <darthanubis> DOOM777: yeah, I figure they figured, why waste space on that?
[02:44] <benny_> all of u using kubuntu
[02:44] <Tacosarecool> Theres something wrong with my kde 4.3
[02:44] <DOOM777> yes
[02:44] <DOOM777> benny_: yes
[02:44] <benny_> what version
[02:44] <benny_> i'm using 9.04
[02:45] <DOOM777> benny_: me too
[02:45] <darthanubis> Tacosarecool: mine works great 90% of the time
[02:45] <racecar56> is it possible to clear the history from the "Open with..." dialog
[02:45] <benny_> wer did u get that?
[02:45] <racecar56> kde4 of course
[02:45] <benny_> me i just download it
[02:45] <DOOM777> benny_: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[02:45] <darthanubis> I just had to tweek my fonts to get them to look like in GNome
[02:46] <benny_> i though u ask for cd
[02:47] <benny_> wer you from Doom777
[02:47] <DOOM777> Brooklyn, ny
[02:47] <benny_> me im from philippines
[02:49] <Tacosarecool> Is my text suppose to look weird
[02:49] <Tacosarecool> it works great
[02:50] <Tacosarecool> but the text after the kmenu is weird
[02:50] <benny_> whose from philippines here?
[02:51] <Tacosarecool> If someone would like to remote control me to  see
[02:51] <bazhang> #ubuntu-ph benny_
[02:52] <benny_> are u from phil bazshang?
[02:52] <darthanubis> Tacosarecool: remote control you? Not a good idea. And weird is a very relative term
[02:52] <bazhang> benny_, offtopic chat in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:53] <benny_> ok
[02:53] <Adola> When Irun  a script from Terminal, it works, when I run the SAME script from the menu, it doesn't...
[02:54] <Adola> Any ideas?
[02:54] <Tacosarecool> you know ghosty text on the task manager
[02:55] <Tacosarecool> Or whatever it's called
[02:55] <Tacosarecool> like you have a window open the thing under it on the bar
[02:55] <Tacosarecool> the rectangle under the windows
[02:55] <Adola> Where it says "file" "edit" "Insirt"
[02:55] <Adola> "Insert"
[02:56] <Adola> Tacosarecool: The "task manager" does it say "File Edit Insert" Etc. things like that?
[02:57] <Tacosarecool> no that's not what I mean
[02:57] <Tacosarecool> Like the rectangle thing that controls it
[02:57] <Tacosarecool> like when you minimize you can put it back up
[02:58] <Adola> What about it?
[03:01] <CleanLaundry> anyone in here familiar with NUBUNTU?
[03:02] <Tacosarecool> like there the k then the folder the rectangle stuff after that is weird shadowy text
[03:02] <bazhang> CleanLaundry, yes, its not supported on Ubuntu channels
[03:03] <CleanLaundry> bazhang, I see. In other words, what would be the best way to find my wireless driver which works out of the box in Kubuntu
[03:04] <bazhang> CleanLaundry, which wireless; is it recognized by the system
[03:06] <CleanLaundry> bazhang, yes, is it. It is a wireless usb device. it uses the rtl8187b driver
[03:06] <Tacosarecool> Is there a way for someone to remote view me?
[03:06] <bazhang> Tacosarecool, not a good option/idea
[03:06] <Tacosarecool> remote view not remote control
[03:07] <CleanLaundry> Tacosarecool, even so, they know all your info
[03:07] <Tacosarecool> oh ok
[03:08] <CleanLaundry> bazhang, Im just trying to figure out where to find this driver location
[03:08] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[03:14] <BluesKaj> CleanLaundry, I have a belkin usb wifi with a rt driver (forgotten the number) but it works with Wicd very nidely
[03:14] <BluesKaj> nicely
[03:14] <CleanLaundry> BlueChili, Wicd?
[03:15] <BlueChili> indeed
[03:15] <BluesKaj> CleanLaundry, se the ubottu post above
[03:15] <CleanLaundry> k
[03:21] <BlueChili> CleanLaundry, so, why do you need to find the driver location for?
[03:21] <CleanLaundry> BlueChili, so I can TRY and copy it over to nUbuntu. Hopefully I can just load it and it will work...
[03:22] <BlueChili> if both systems are the system architecture, libc version, etc they sould
[03:22] <BlueChili> shoul
[03:22] <BlueChili> d
[03:24] <BlueChili> the other way around it's to compile it as a kernel module then copy it to nUbuntu
[03:25] <BlueChili> CleanLaundry, I'm not sure if the rt drivers are compiled in kernel, or avaiable as a module in Kubuntu
[03:25] <BluesKaj> BBL ... have to boot into windows for a bit
[03:26] <BlueChili> CleanLaundry, also it should take just a few seconds to get the modules
[03:27] <CleanLaundry> BlueChili, so what would you advice me to do?
[03:28] <BlueChili> compile just the module, if you already have build-essential it's better than being poking aroun usr/lib
[03:29] <BlueChili> CleanLaundry, the modules are spread around /usr/lib that's the place where you should find it
[03:31] <CleanLaundry> BlueChili, sorry to sound really newbish, just unsure where to start to compile the module?
[03:31] <BlueChili> CleanLaundry, /usr/src/linux
[03:33] <ahmos> hi , i have acer laptop and card reader don't work any help please?
[03:34] <BlueChili> CleanLaundry, http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ get to chapter 4
[03:34] <CleanLaundry> BlueChili, k thanks
[03:36] <BlueChili> k
[03:36] <CleanLaundry> BlueChili, so rebuild the kernel?
[03:37] <Adola> If I wanted to (in a konsole) open another konsole and make that konsole run a script, how would I do that?
[03:57] <sooki_> anyone know the name of the thing that makes gnome apps not look like crap in kde4?
[04:02] <Daemon_> how do you change the default kubuntu bootscreen?
[04:08] <ign0ramus> !grub | Daemon_
[04:08] <ign0ramus> !usplash | Daemon_
[04:12] <CleanLaundry> can I get some help with these errors while trying to build a driver? http://pastebin.com/f175444ab
[04:12] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: what does this mean?
[04:12] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: http://pastebin.com/m314622f1
[04:13] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: were do i add more .so files
[04:13] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, it means you only have 1 usplash installed?
[04:13] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, www.kde-look.org
[04:14] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: yeah but were do i put the new ones
[04:15] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, download them from wherever (the site above is probably the best), and install them via System Setttings
[04:15] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: system settings were
[04:15] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, Kmenu -> System Settings
[04:16] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, I personally use this one: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/login-scan-print+splash?content=91663
[04:17] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: i see the splash screens but what about the ones when you first boot up the kubuntu one
[04:18] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, afaik, they are limited... I personally disable them in fstab so that I can see what is being loaded at boot time
[04:19] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: what is afik?
[04:19] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, "afaik" = = "as far as i know"...
[04:20] <Daemon_> ign0ramus: so do you know how to install them
[04:20] <ign0ramus> Daemon_, just follow the instructions from the creator.  See here: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=61x66x67x68x79
[04:23] <kasperooney> i suddenly lost sound after restarting my system - is there any solution to this?
[04:24] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, did you get any notification that your sound device stopped working?
[04:24] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, does "aplay -l" show any devices?
[04:25] <kasperooney> nope nothing....and i didnt tinker with any settings just restarted
[04:25] <kasperooney> here's the output:
[04:25] <kasperooney> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[04:25] <kasperooney> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC861 Analog [ALC861 Analog]
[04:25] <kasperooney>   Subdevices: 1/1
[04:25] <kasperooney>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[04:26] <FloodBotK2> kasperooney: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:26] <kasperooney> sorry a bit new here
[04:26] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, obviously your card is recognized. if you do "alsamixer", is your sound all the way up?
[04:27] <kasperooney> yup its 100% and my speakers are woring fine, coz i tested them in windows7
[04:27] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, in alsamixer, you can press "TAB" button to check all audio device settings
[04:28] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, did you install any updates?
[04:28] <kasperooney> not recently....
[04:28] <kasperooney> in alsamixer it says "master" is off...does that mean anything?
[04:28] <kasperooney> pcm is 100
[04:28] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, turn Master "on'
[04:29] <naddha> who can help me...my ubuntu can't connect to internet with wi-fi radar....must with LAN....why???
[04:29] <kasperooney> sorry, but how do i do that?
[04:29] <Viking667> Got a question... apparently on Jaunty, kopete doesn't support MSN. Am I right, or are my eyes playing tricks on me?
[04:29] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, in alsamixer, put outputs all the way up
[04:29] <Viking667> I'm having to install pidgin just to get MSN support.
[04:29] <ign0ramus> Viking667, amsn or pidgin work.
[04:30] <Viking667> *nod* - I know they both work, but I'm surprised about kopete not having MSN support.
[04:30] <ign0ramus> Viking667, msn changed their servers... you need to specify their new servers... google it
[04:30] <kasperooney> ign0ramus, with tab or arrow keys i can select the item (master, pcm, etc) how do i turn it up, down, on, off?
[04:30] <Viking667> I can't actually ADD a account of MSN type.
[04:30] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, arrow up or down.
[04:30] <ign0ramus> Viking667, in pidgin?
[04:31] <Viking667> no, in kopete.
[04:31] <ign0ramus> Viking667, lemme check
[04:31] <alba_> naddha,  did you try clicking in manage connections?mine was not autoconnected but when you click there might appear
[04:31] <Viking667> thank you. I'm configuring it on my wife's machine.
[04:31] <kasperooney> oops yes i figured that out, but master is off so up/down isn't working....was the command for turning master on? (really sorry for the idiotic questions!)
[04:32] <ign0ramus> Viking667, Kopete seems to work OK with MSN: see screenshot: http://imgur.com/N5TXN.png
[04:32] <naddha> can you telll me step by step, 'cause i'm new using linux ubuntu....i'm not understand... :)
[04:33] <Viking667> ign0ramus: huh? Then what happened? Where did the account selection go for MSN?
[04:33] <ign0ramus> Viking667, don't know what you're seeing; as you can see, it works on my end.  I don't know.
[04:33] <kasperooney> ign0ramus: I'm nearly there plz help me with the last step...how do i turn master on?
[04:34] <BlueChili> kasperooney, hit the "Space" key
[04:35] <BlueChili> kasperooney, to toggle master on
[04:35] <ign0ramus> thanks BlueChili
[04:36] <kasperooney>  BlueChili: its not working over here! :(
[04:36] <naddha> someone who can help me ??? I'm using ubuntu, but i can't connect to internet with WLAN with wi-fi radar just with LAN....why ?
[04:36] <sooki> anyone know the name of the thing that makes gnome apps not look like crap in kde4?(sorry to ask again)
[04:36] <Viking667> I'll go back to the accounts selection, and see if I missed it the first two times.
[04:36] <kasperooney> wait i hit M and it worked!
[04:36] <BlueChili> kasperooney, use TAB to go through the toggles
[04:37] <BlueChili> kasperooney, ok, great!
[04:37] <ign0ramus> sooki, try "gtk-qt-engine" or  "gtk-qt-engine-kde4"
[04:37] <kasperooney>  thanks a lot ign0ramus and BlueChili - i must have looked through 30 sites for this solution!!!!
[04:37] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, np :)
[04:38] <BlueChili> kasperooney, good that you solved your issue
[04:38] <kasperooney>  for some reason "space" isnt the solution here - pressing M is toggling ON n OFF
[04:38] <kasperooney>  the problem is solved but cud someone tell me why it got switched off automatically?
[04:38] <BlueChili> kasperooney, so M goes for mute/unmute?
[04:38] <sooki> okay, thanks
[04:38] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, honestly don't know.
[04:39] <ign0ramus> sooki, then, i recommend using "gtk2-engines-qtcurve" as your style... makes gtk apps look slick :)
[04:39] <kasperooney>  BlueChili: yeah that's what i figured just now....if only i had thought of it earlier woud hav saved me a lot of trouble!
[04:40] <kasperooney>  : in some of the websites i looked through many people were having this problem as soon as they installed 9.04 but i got it just now....it seems there's a problem with pulse audio...
[04:40] <BlueChili> kasperooney, probably some software toggled it to prevent another software having use of the mixer, or it just muted it on exit, really don't know for certain
[04:40] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, i've seen a lot of people say that by default, sound is muted in Jaunty.  I don't know why that would be, and it wasn't my experience, but I've seen it before...
[04:41] <[Pwner]John> =o
[04:41]  * [Pwner]John dies
[04:41] <BlueChili> kasperooney, on Xubuntu sound is muted by default on each session loggin
[04:41] <ign0ramus> kasperooney, if you're using only KDE, i would recommend removing Pulseaudio completely
[04:42] <kasperooney>  hmm thats a good idea must try it sometime.....
[04:42] <kasperooney>  anyway thanks for the help again guys...im in a hurry so gotta say bye bye - have a nice day!
[04:43] <BlueChili> kasperooney, still some packages have it as a dependency, don't know why
[04:43] <ign0ramus> BlueChili, he's gone :(
[04:44] <BlueChili> ign0ramus, he just couldn't hold on and went to celebrate!
[04:44] <sooki> ign0ramus, do you know if the apps have to be restarded to take effect, as i installt gtk-qt whatever and they still look like crap :P
[04:44] <ign0ramus> BlueChili, he's probably blasting the theme from "Space Odyssey: 2001" right now :P
[04:44] <sooki> installed, how the hell did installt come out?
[04:45] <BlueChili> ign0ramus, the opening?
[04:45] <ign0ramus> sooki, in System Settings, you have to set gtk apps to use kde style
[04:45] <ign0ramus> BlueChili, most definitely
[04:45] <ign0ramus> :)
[04:45] <sooki> aha
[04:46] <BlueChili> ign'ramus, that's, "Thus speak Zarathustra" a symphonic poem by
[04:46] <ign0ramus> sooki, you need "gtk-qt-engine" if you dont already have it
[04:46] <sooki> that's what a i got, yeah
[04:46] <ign0ramus> BlueChili, a geek after my own heart :3
[04:47] <sooki> but i don't see where in the settings
[04:47] <ign0ramus> sooki, in "appearance" there should now be "gtk styles and fonts" settings
[04:47] <BlueChili> ign0ramus, Richard Strauss
[04:48] <ign0ramus> BlueChili, nice :)
[04:49] <sooki> aha, thank you, ign0ramus
[04:49] <ign0ramus> sooki, np :)
[04:49] <ign0ramus> sooki, i like "qt curve" - some of the others still look ugly imho
[04:49] <kasperooney>  you're not gonna believe this - as soon as i disconnected the sound went mute again! master is on but the sound is gone! :(
[04:50] <ign0ramus> sooki, "gtk2-engines-qtcurve" is what i use
[04:50] <sooki> i don't have that in my styles drop down
[04:51] <ign0ramus> sooki, its a package to install... then select "qtcurve" in the dropdown
[04:51] <Viking667> Right. Back to the server to use:  messenger.hotmail.com:1863  ?
[04:52] <BlueChili> kasperooney, thatś really bad
[04:53] <sooki> ah, okay, thanks
[04:53] <BlueChili> kasperooney, did you check volume on all the sliders?
[04:54] <ign0ramus> Viking667, did you see here: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3104587.0
[04:56] <Viking667> I'll take a look.
[05:04] <Daemon_> could someone tell me how to change the usplash screen
[05:04] <darthanubis> install usplash themes then use startupmanager to change them, or just remove the themes you won't use
[05:05] <Daemon_> darthanubis: i cant find any .so files to put into startup manager
[05:06] <Viking667> whew. Silly me didn't find the account type the first two times. Sheesh.
[05:06] <darthanubis> Daemon_: follow my instructions to the letter, and stop doing whatever you are doing to be successful
[05:07] <Daemon_> darthanubis: how do i install usplash themes
[05:08] <darthanubis> Daemon_: I told you.
[05:08] <Daemon_> darthanubis: the startup manager only accepts certain types of files were do i find them
[05:09] <darthanubis> I told you that as well
[05:09] <darthanubis> you find them where all the other packages are
[05:09] <Daemon_> darthanubis: only ones i can find are .sobz2 files
[05:09] <darthanubis> don't be so lazy
[05:09] <darthanubis> look in the freeking repositories
[05:09] <darthanubis> you know SYNAPTIC
[05:10] <darthanubis> search for usplash
[05:10] <darthanubis> can it get any easier?
[05:10] <Daemon_> yeah i know what am i going to look for there
[05:10] <darthanubis> is english your first language, because there are other channels in your native tongue
[05:10] <Daemon_> yes it could if ppl like you that dont like to help ppl would get off the channel!
[05:11] <darthanubis> I told you several times
[05:11] <darthanubis> who like to repeat themselves to people who are not interested in the asnwers they recieve
[05:11] <darthanubis> don't troll man, just read, and follow the directions given
[05:12] <darthanubis> no one here has a responsibility to help you or read for you
[05:12] <Daemon_> ok then shut up and leave me alone
[05:12] <darthanubis> !conduct
[05:13] <darthanubis> educate yourself kid
[05:13] <darthanubis> !respect
[05:13] <bazhang> !usplash > Daemon_
[05:16] <oldude67> whats the other program like webman? that ubuntu uses?
[05:16] <bazhang> !ebox
[05:16] <oldude67> bazhang, ty
[05:16] <sockmonkey> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu and I'm wanting to add launcher icons to my KDE panel (near the K menu).  Can anyone help?
[05:18] <darthanubis> sockmonkey: if you accidentally clikced the taskbar you'd be enlightened
[05:19] <darthanubis> oldude67: I'd stay away from ebox
[05:20] <sockmonkey> darthanubis, I wasn't...
[05:20] <oldude67> darthanubis, why?
[05:20] <darthanubis> oldude67: I've used both,and webmin does what it does with no hassle and well. Ebox, was more complicated than it should have been. YMMV
[05:21] <darthanubis> WARNING: the eBox package released with Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid Ibex) is broken and cannot be installed. See bug #255368 for information and unsupported workarounds.
[05:21] <darthanubis> Although that is for 8.10 Webmin as always worked
[05:21] <oldude67> but was told that webman does not handle packages like ubuntu prefers
[05:22] <darthanubis> it is WEBMIN not man, and why would you need wemin to handle "packages" at all?
[05:23] <oldude67> havent used either, was just what i was told..
[05:23] <darthanubis> don't base anything off what you were told, You should know that from experience "oldude"
[05:24] <darthanubis> And when I did use webmin with packages, there was not an issue
[05:24] <darthanubis> I speak from experience, but again YMMV
[05:25] <sockmonkey> darthanubis: can you be a bit more enlightening?
[05:27] <darthanubis> sockmonkey: GIYF http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1037646
[05:28] <Dragnslcr> sockmonkey- you mean Quicklaunch?
[05:29] <sockmonkey> Dragnslcr: Yeah :)
[05:29] <Dragnslcr> sockmonkey- it's a regular plasmoid, you can add it to a panel the same way as anything else
[05:30] <sockmonkey> Dragnslcr: That's basically my question - where/how is that done?  I just installed a few minutes ago
[05:32] <Dragnslcr> sockmonkey- right-click the panel and go to Add Widgets
[05:33] <sockmonkey> Dragnslcr: Thanks... feel stupid now, but thanks :)
[05:33] <Dragnslcr> Heh, no problem
[05:33] <Dragnslcr> When in doubt, right-click. You'll be amazed how much you can learn just by looking through menus
[05:33] <sockmonkey> Dragnslcr: Is there any trick to creating a *.desktop file to add to the widget?  Just a normal shortcut?
[05:34] <sockmonkey> lol, learned my lesson :)
[05:34] <darthanubis> your making this harder than it is
[05:34] <sockmonkey> darthanubis: Your pompous attitude makes it difficult for me to take you seriously.
[05:35] <Dragnslcr> sockmonkey- most programs have .desktop files already
[05:35] <darthanubis> but your lazy " I just installed a few MINUTES ago setup my desktop for me" attitude makes you come off REAL credible?
[05:35] <darthanubis> sock monkey indeed
[05:36] <Dragnslcr> sockmonkey- /usr/share/app-install/desktop has a lot of them
[05:36] <sockmonkey> darthanubis: I'm not going to entertain you.  Chill dude.
[05:36] <sockmonkey> Thanks Dragnslcr
[05:36] <darthanubis> too late
[05:36] <Dragnslcr> darthanubis- if you aren't going to be helpful, please don't say anything
[05:36] <darthanubis> ok
[05:36] <darthanubis> I was helpful
[05:36] <darthanubis> soooo?
[05:37] <darthanubis> I can't help the lazy like you have done?
[05:37] <darthanubis> I googled for him
[05:37] <darthanubis> gave it to him right in his lap
[05:37] <darthanubis> I told him what to click before YOU woke up to run to his aid
[05:40] <BlueChili> iIthink you're both wrong, and I am rigth just cause didn't do anything, now really, chill out
[05:41] <sockmonkey> darthanubis: her
[05:42] <sockmonkey> Thanks again Dragnslcr -- your advice worked beautifully
[05:44] <gherring> hey...what's a 'search domain'?
[05:49] <darthanubis> guest1010: a two word phrase indicating an action to perform?
[06:08] <type0neg> my whole desktop just dissapeared...the only way I got in here was by typing Alt + F2 and running 'konversation'
[06:10] <DaskreeCH> type0neg: try alt+F2 -> plasma
[06:11] <type0neg> WHOA!!!
[06:11] <type0neg> that worked   :)
[06:11] <Viking667> does plasma also run the taskbar? (the panels)
[06:13] <type0neg> is networkmanagement buggy?
[06:13] <type0neg> whenever I alter it I lose the task bar...except last time I lost it all
[06:15] <type0neg> Viking667: I think so, but dont quote me
[06:16] <type0neg> well....thanks
[06:16] <Adola> How do I unmount my ipod using terminal?
[06:22] <type0neg> darthanubis: your a trip
[06:22] <type0neg> I've been reading the logs - funny stuff
[06:23] <faileas> Adola: same way you'd unmount any device. sudo unmount /path/to/mountpoint i think
[06:23] <darthanubis> type0neg: are you running KDE 4.3RC1?
[06:23] <Adola> Okies!
[06:24] <Tacosarecool> now my desktop is checkered
[06:24] <darthanubis> because I am and lose the desktop quite often, especially when the windows explode away
[06:24] <DaskreeCH> Adola: sudo umount /path/to/iPod
[06:25] <Adola> Ok..
[06:25] <DaskreeCH> darthanubis: nope
[06:25] <Adola> Is it umount?
[06:25] <Adola> Or unmount?
[06:25] <DaskreeCH> Adola: umount
[06:25] <darthanubis> DaskreeCH: nope?
[06:25] <type0neg> darthanubis: kind of
[06:25] <Tacosarecool> ok
[06:25] <Tacosarecool> figured it out
[06:25] <DaskreeCH> darthanubis: Not running rc1
[06:25] <Adola> Hold on, let me get the error.
[06:25] <darthanubis> DaskreeCH: I was asking type0neg?
[06:25] <Adola> sudo umount /media/IPOD doesn't work.
[06:26] <DaskreeCH> I know I was answering
[06:27] <darthanubis> DaskreeCH: answering for him?
[06:28] <type0neg> KDE 4.2.2
[06:29] <type0neg> darthanubis:   my version is KDE 4.2.2
[06:29] <Tacosarecool> update to 4.2.4
[06:29] <DaskreeCH> darthanubis: Assuning that type0neg is a he. Yes
[06:30] <Tacosarecool> me I upgraded to 4.3
[06:30] <type0neg> I is a 'he'  :0
[06:30] <Adola> DaskreeCH: Post-disconnect command failed
[06:30] <Guest32979> hi
[06:30] <type0neg> any security issues with KDE 4.2.2?
[06:30] <darthanubis> 4.3 is VERY nice
[06:31] <DaskreeCH> Adola: hmm OK is it still mounted?
[06:31] <darthanubis> just wating for them to make is stable
[06:31] <Adola> DaskreeCH: yes.
[06:31] <type0neg> I built this all the way up from a minimal install....I don't want to break it
[06:31] <DaskreeCH> Adola: Sounds like i's not letting go
[06:31] <Adola> DaskreeCH: i?
[06:31] <darthanubis> "built"?
[06:31] <darthanubis> ;)
[06:32] <darthanubis> hardly built, this aint Gentoo
[06:32] <DaskreeCH> Adola: Do you have an apps using it or are you on ipod file system?
[06:32] <DaskreeCH> It is
[06:32] <type0neg> darthanubis: I didn't mean it like that...I'm no 'coder'  LOL
[06:32] <darthanubis> type0neg: just update to 4.2.4
[06:32] <darthanubis> Live on the edge and go 4.3
[06:33] <type0neg> I had to find the right kind/combination of packages...all from command line...aptitude...it was an ordeal
[06:33] <darthanubis> Ubuntu is one of the distro that make it easy to try bleeding edge stuff with PPAs. I LOVE PPAs
[06:33] <type0neg> darthanubis: it's late and I'm scared - LOL
[06:33] <darthanubis> type0neg: a needless ordeal
[06:34] <type0neg> darthanubis: not needless:: I learned alot
[06:34] <darthanubis> type0neg: use synaptic next time, and stop wasting your time with the command line
[06:34] <darthanubis> you scare easliy then
[06:34] <DaskreeCH> darthanubis: Sadly most distros make it easy to try bleeding edge stuff
[06:34] <type0neg> :-|  I was kidding
[06:35] <darthanubis> type0neg: sorry humor does not come across too well in this medium, trust me I know
[06:35] <type0neg> I was reading the logs ...you are a hoot
[06:35] <darthanubis> DaskreeCH: nothing "sad" about it......for me
[06:35] <BlueChili> darthanubis: at least one can avoid pulseaudio starting from a CLI install
[06:35] <darthanubis> type0neg: how so?
[06:36] <DaskreeCH> darthanubis: Yep for me as well :-)
[06:36] <type0neg> your conversation with 'daemon_'
[06:36] <type0neg> I laughed so hard
[06:36] <darthanubis> BlueChili: True, but I have PulseAudio working fine. I should not have used the "Kubuntu" disk and should have just used my 9.04 alt.cd
[06:36] <darthanubis> type0neg: glad I was not the only one to get a hoot from that garbage
[06:37] <type0neg> darthanubis: so I can update frorm repositories?
[06:37] <type0neg> let me scroll up and read that stuff
[06:38] <imfinity> Hello
[06:38] <darthanubis> I left ubnutu for 24hrs to run Fedora, and Fedora sucks, but I did like KDE after trying it, so I thought kubuntu, bad idea to use the kubuntu cd even the alt kubuntu cd as the default install of PA was borked
[06:38] <BlueChili> darthanubis: alt.cd was the way to go
[06:38] <darthanubis> type0neg: yes
[06:39] <darthanubis> BlueChili: I HAD to use the alt.cd because my storage drive is LVM
[06:39] <DaskreeCH> I dunno pulseaudio just isn't installed for me
[06:39] <darthanubis> MYTHTV in Fedora sucks as well
[06:39] <darthanubis> I don't have issues most do with my systems
[06:40] <BlueChili> darthanubis: oh, Fedora starts snappy but performance degrades quite quickly
[06:40] <darthanubis> I'm very thorough in my reading of instructions so I solve most of my own, well ALL of my own issues
[06:41] <darthanubis> BlueChili: It ran smooth and was fst. I just did not like the way the system files were setup, ,the naming of programs, like "httpd" for "apache"
[06:41] <BlueChili> darthanubis: the kubuntu-desktop package it's the one who brings PA, not that it should
[06:41] <darthanubis> Apache and Mysql did not start by default
[06:42] <darthanubis> BlueChili: well all was fine until I tried to play .nuv files with vlc, and have working audio in amarok
[06:42] <darthanubis> both would not play
[06:42] <darthanubis> I solved that only issue a few hours ago
[06:43] <BlueChili> darthanubis: kicked PA out and pulled in xine plugin for VLC?
[06:43] <darthanubis> I have Mint 7 on both my wives PCs, xubuntu on the kids, he is 10, and I keep foobuntu on my box
[06:44] <darthanubis> BlueChili: nope, installed asoundconfgtk and set default sound card to pulse.
[06:45] <darthanubis> also installed the debiansoundall package
[06:45] <darthanubis> sonthign like that
[06:45] <darthanubis> something...getting tired
[06:45] <BlueChili> darthanubis: much like the skype workaround for PA
[06:46] <BlueChili> darthanubis: it's late
[06:46] <darthanubis> BlueChili: not really, when I used Skype I did not have to do anything for my sound to work, it was the video that was the headache
[06:46] <darthanubis> But Skype uses 32bit libs
[06:46] <darthanubis> I'm ALL 64bit
[06:47] <darthanubis> I won't be going back to Gnome for quite a while. Been using Gnome since Ubuntu debuted
[06:48] <BlueChili> darthanubis: skype's issue with PA seems to be a gnome only deal
[06:48] <darthanubis> Who knew that you don't need compiz for the cube and a large amount of eyecandy!
[06:49] <darthanubis> BlueChili: Skype issues for me seemed to be 64bit
[06:49] <BlueChili> darthanubis: and "usability improvements"
[06:50] <darthanubis> Ubuntu has the BEST Mythtv setup in my opinion
[06:50] <darthanubis> that is my main concern
[06:51] <darthanubis> well Ubuntu and Mint, but I don't even consider Mint a seperate distro, they can call it one if they want to.
[06:51] <darthanubis> I don't consider ANY ubuntu knock off as a seperate distro, please.:/
[06:51] <BlueChili> darthanubis: not mine...
[06:52] <BlueChili> darthanubis, if Xubuntu, Kubuntu and Ubuntu all share the same main repos, how come
[06:53] <darthanubis> how come.....what?
[06:54] <BlueChili> darthanubis: be separate distros
[06:54] <darthanubis> please, one coherent sentence structure?
[06:54] <darthanubis> ;)
[06:55] <darthanubis> preferably grammatically correct:D
[06:55] <type0neg> darthanubis: nice chattin with you...I need to burn my sys to a cd and go back to command line
[06:57] <BlueChili> darthanubis: I ran put of those four sentences ago
[06:58] <darthanubis> WHAT?!????
[06:58] <darthanubis> "ran put"?
[06:58] <darthanubis> ohhh ran out
[06:58] <BlueChili> darthanubis: hahahaha *ran out*
[06:59] <darthanubis> gotcha
[06:59] <iivv> i performed the latest updates, and now i do not have any window decorations, and plasma is completely different
[06:59] <darthanubis> I was just wondering what you were trying to ask me
[06:59] <jussi01> !ot
[06:59] <BlueChili> darthanubis: guess that was my signal, better go to sleep
[07:00] <darthanubis> iivv: "performed the latest updates" how?
[07:00] <iivv> through the update manager
[07:00] <iivv> it told me i had about 48 updates
[07:00] <darthanubis> iivv: yeah bit we don't know what repos you hav enabled
[07:01] <darthanubis> iivv: when was the last time you updated?
[07:01] <iivv> would you like a list? i actually had just added one from the kubuntu site before i installed
[07:01] <iivv> just today
[07:02] <darthanubis> I have no updates availible, and have not had any for a while
[07:02] <darthanubis> so I don't know where you got 48 updates from
[07:02] <darthanubis> not saying you did not
[07:03] <darthanubis> just wonder about your repos
[07:03] <iivv> i just addded a line a few hours ago... i'll get my update history in a sec?
[07:03] <darthanubis> a;so did not know kubuntu was giving repos out on it's site?
[07:03] <darthanubis> how about you share the line you added?
[07:04] <darthanubis> did you add the line to install KDE4.3RC1?
[07:05] <Tacosarecool> no
[07:05] <Tacosarecool> I used synaptic
[07:06] <iivv> i used a
[07:06] <iivv> 'backports
[07:06] <iivv> '
[07:06] <Tacosarecool> take a look at kde.orhg
[07:06] <Tacosarecool> kde.org
[07:06] <iivv> line. sorry i keep missing the ' key
[07:07] <type0neg> to heck with that
[07:08] <type0neg> !triggers
[07:08] <type0neg> !trigger
[07:09] <type0neg> *sigh*
[07:09] <type0neg> man my connection is slow...
[07:10] <type0neg> darthanubis: you say alternate install cd is the way to go?
[07:12] <plane> Any body here?
[07:13] <plane> who can help me?
[07:13] <type0neg> .
[07:13] <type0neg> hey
[07:13] <darthanubis> !help
[07:13] <plane> !help
[07:13] <darthanubis> !ask
[07:13] <darthanubis> !patience | plane
[07:14] <type0neg> !patience
[07:15] <type0neg> 24%
[07:16] <DaskreeCH> darthanubis: So you think of Ubuntu as just a prettty debian? :-)
[07:17] <darthanubis> no, no just a less anal debian
[07:18] <darthanubis> any distro can look like anything, every DE is availible to all linux users
[07:18] <darthanubis> Ubuntu is just more open and well rounded, especially with the adition of PPAs
[07:18] <DaskreeCH> plane: whats the problem?
[07:19] <darthanubis> Mint is a pretty Debian
[07:19] <darthanubis> Ubuntu's default are not pretty by any stretch
[07:19] <type0neg> DaskreeCH: <-- plane has left this server (Client Quit).
[07:19] <darthanubis> and this is NOT Mint advocacy before the ubuntu police arrive
[07:20] <type0neg> mint schmint
[07:20] <type0neg> ;-)
[07:21] <darthanubis> that is what I used to say until I installed in on my spare pcs
[07:21] <darthanubis> well this is all OT
[07:21] <type0neg> a friend of mine installed it as one of his first 'nix distros
[07:22] <type0neg> he ran a script on it and made it look like windoze
[07:22] <darthanubis> I turned a friend on to ubuntu, he wiped and tried mint, and has been on it ever since, and he is retarded
[07:22] <type0neg> i was like - 'eeeeew'
[07:23] <type0neg> lol
[07:23] <darthanubis> I was glad I converted another windows user. And he loved Photoshop
[07:23] <DaskreeCH> "loved" ?
[07:24] <type0neg> everybody at work sees me using kubuntu and they say: "ooooh...is that windoze7?"
[07:24] <darthanubis> loved
[07:24] <type0neg> I tell them: yea....want to try it?
[07:25] <DaskreeCH> type0neg: turn on slide back
[07:25] <type0neg> ?
[07:25] <DaskreeCH> type0neg: you have compositing on?
[07:26] <type0neg> DaskreeCH: i don't understand
[07:26] <darthanubis> I like how my windows now shuffle to the one I want
[07:26] <darthanubis> 4.3 has more effects than 4.2x
[07:26] <type0neg> I'm using onboard video...  :(
[07:26] <darthanubis> wow
[07:27] <darthanubis> I just bought a nvidia 5200 for $32 so my girl could get off onboard video, and have composting
[07:27] <type0neg> I don't get paid til the middle of the month....I need ram first
[07:27] <darthanubis> $32
[07:27] <darthanubis> how much ram you got?
[07:27] <apprasetyo> halo all
[07:27] <type0neg> well....I think I can scrounge up 30-40 bucks
[07:28] <type0neg> 512
[07:28] <darthanubis> !!!
[07:28] <faileas> lol
[07:28] <darthanubis> My kids box has that much ram
[07:28] <faileas> my kubuntu laptop runs off a x3100
[07:28] <type0neg> i know, i know!
[07:28] <darthanubis> type0neg: and you are runnign KDE4 on that?
[07:28] <darthanubis> eeeewwww
[07:29] <type0neg> i ran kubuntu on a 266mb ram and 2.8 ghz chip one time
[07:29] <darthanubis> you should be using xfce or lxde even
[07:29] <type0neg> it worked and wasn't really slow
[07:29] <darthanubis> type0neg: must have been the epitome of suckage RIGHT?
[07:29] <darthanubis> yeah, and I have this bridge....;)
[07:29] <type0neg> lol
[07:29] <type0neg> old gateway laptop
[07:30] <type0neg> i tell you no lies man...i'm serious!!
[07:30] <type0neg> i wanted to run it so bad...
[07:30] <darthanubis> type0neg: I'm out dude, take it easy, see you around. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
[07:30] <safruhani> hi, how can i add to panel custom applications ? (on gnome via "custom application launcher)
[07:31] <type0neg> i seen kubuntu on u-tube and that was it
[07:31] <type0neg> k
[07:31] <faileas> lxde is great for older boxes ;p
[07:32] <DaskreeCH> safruhani: Just drag them there
[07:33] <type0neg> safruhani: you can also right click on panel and select 'panel settings' and add stuff from there
[07:33] <darthanubis> just like Gnome
[07:34] <darthanubis> why don't people TRY before asking at least?
[07:34] <safruhani> i'm sorry but couldn't do it with your suggestions
[07:34] <darthanubis> type0neg: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=kde4&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#
[07:35] <safruhani> darthanubis: be patient if you don't want , don't help
[07:36] <type0neg> darthanubis: i can't see it...i would have to install 'flash' and only a satanist would do that
[07:36] <type0neg> roflmao!!!
[07:37] <darthanubis> jimmey christmas
[07:37] <darthanubis> you could alwasy install gnash
[07:37] <DaskreeCH> safruhani: What are you trying to get on the panel?
[07:37] <type0neg> true, but i have limited bandwidth - yes, it sucks to- and I'm upgrading right now per your suggestion
[07:39] <type0neg> in fact, i have to leave a moment - it says'committing changes' - o lord....brb
[07:39] <safruhani> DaskreeCH: such as firefox,
[07:39] <safruhani> not a widget an applications link
[07:39] <darthanubis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZISwoZEZZl0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideosearch%3Fq%3Dkde4%26oe%3Dutf-8%26rls%3Dcom.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26um%3D1%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DN%26hl%3Den%26ta&feature=player_embedded
[07:39] <safruhani> darthanubis: is it for me?
[07:39] <darthanubis> safruhani: drag it there JUST like Gnome
[07:39] <darthanubis> no
[07:39] <DaskreeCH> safruhani: It's in your menu?
[07:40] <safruhani> DaskreeCH: darthanubis thanks i do it :)
[07:41] <darthanubis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGc2SGFOdVs&NR=1
[07:41] <darthanubis> That is a goo KDE4.3 review
[07:42] <DaskreeCH> Kinda hard to be a good KDE 4.3 review since KDE 4.3 isn't out yet :-P
[07:43] <darthanubis> DaskreeCH: rubbish
[07:44] <DaskreeCH> overview maybe
[08:11] <irshad> Hi
[08:11] <irshad> This is the firt time I am inIRC
[08:12] <eagles0513875> !hi | irshad
[08:12] <irshad> Thanks
[08:12] <irshad> I need some support
[08:12] <DaskreeCH> irshad: Welcome :)
[08:12] <DaskreeCH> What do you need Support with?
[08:12] <irshad> I want to contribute to Konqueror
[08:13] <DaskreeCH> In what manner?
[08:13] <irshad> I can do Java programming
[08:13] <irshad> Generic Java
[08:13] <jussi01> !contribute
[08:13] <irshad> And also familiar with C++ syntax
[08:14] <irshad> But I am not good in QT
[08:14] <DaskreeCH> Right
[08:14] <irshad> But like to contribute
[08:14] <DaskreeCH> irshad: Through KUbuntu or you just want to work with the upstream ?
[08:14] <irshad> Better if it with the upstream
[08:15] <irshad> I haven't done much contribution yet
[08:15] <irshad> How would you recommend?
[08:15] <DaskreeCH> irshad: well then #kde and the Konqueror mailing list would be good places to start
[08:15] <eagles0513875> i am trying to find a newer snapshot of the plasma widget network manager anyone know of a ppa a newer snap shot is or where i can get the trunk source from
[08:15] <DaskreeCH> You may also want to ask for help in #qt as to where to start
[08:16] <jussi01> irshad: and read the link ubottu gave if you want to do something with kubuntu
[08:17] <irshad> Let me try #kde
[08:18] <irshad> Thanks guys for guiding
[08:18] <irshad> This is my first IRC experience
[08:18] <irshad> And it is really great
[08:18] <DaskreeCH> there is of course #kde-devel and #konqueror but the first is more for people with feet in the water already and the other is probably more quiet than you would like :)
[09:46] <fas> HELLO, COULD ANYONE HELP ME WITH DNS SERVER SETTING
[09:46] <fas> PLS
[09:48] <fas> hello anyone?
[09:51] <weedar> I used to be able to connect via VNC with Krdc, but now I can only choose RDP - Is this a temporary bug in KDE 4.3 RC or could there be another reason?
[10:01] <kubu> problem with latest KDE update, it displays error "kstarts, kdeedu" errors were encountered while processing. Any help please.
[10:12] <exatrive> anyone recommend kubuntu x64 or is it still not mature enough?
[10:19] <dwidmann> exatrive: it has been mature enough for years now :)
[10:25] <lukas> Hi, how could I find out which package belongs to which repository? I need this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openbios-sparc which seems to be in 9.04 but is not present in aptitude.
[10:39] <ole__> hello
[10:46] <dwidmann> lukas: seems a package "fcode-utils" might be related?
[10:54] <lukas> dwidmann: yes, I installed it and tried to apt-get source -b to build it but it complaints that it needs to be built on SPARC while I would like to use it on AMD64 to virtualize SPARC
[10:55] <dwidmann> Sounds complicated/over-my-head
[10:55] <dwidmann> lukas: maybe someone with a good amount of packaging/etc experience would be able to help you though?
[10:56] <lukas> dwidmann: yes, perhaps, no idea where to find such an expert :)
[10:57] <dwidmann> lukas: maybe in #ubuntu-devel if you're lucky
[10:59] <lukas> dwidmann: ok, I will try
[10:59] <lukas> thanks
[11:31] <Guest2445_> респект линуксойдам
[11:32] <Guest2445_> что то народу много, а тишина..............
[11:33] <jussi01> !ru
[11:33] <Guest2445_> !ru
[11:34] <Guest2445_> bye-bye
[11:45] <phar0z> How Can I get xchat with a transparent background in KDE 4.x ?
[11:51] <bazhang> phar0z, not sure, xchat is a gtk app (comes with gnome)
[11:52] <bazhang> phar0z, right click preferences
[11:52] <bazhang> err settings -->preferences-->text box --->set transparent background (works in gnome at least)
[11:53] <phar0z> bazhang, thx
[11:53] <bazhang> phar0z, does that work in kde?
[11:53] <phar0z> yes, it's transparant now
[11:53] <bazhang> nice :)
[12:02] <stefhand> hi
[12:02] <stefhand> is there anyone here to help me?
[12:02] <stefhand> ya qq1?
[12:43] <Freyr> can anyone tell me what php ide is the best ?
[12:54] <Stargazers> Hi. I installed KDE 4.3 RC1, but there is problem with graphics. I mean, graphics of taskbars etc. I have no any images on taskbar.
[12:54] <Stargazers> I can open menu for example, but where should be K-logo or whatever where I open menu, there is only empty place.
[12:58] <Stargazers> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stargazers/3694085614/sizes/o/
[12:58] <Stargazers> Like that.
[12:58] <Stargazers> Anyone has similar problems?
[12:59] <aftertaf> u tried a total reboot ?
[12:59] <Stargazers> Yep.
[12:59] <aftertaf> try removing taskbar and starting a new one?
[12:59] <aftertaf> i have icons btw . . .
[13:00] <aftertaf> but been on 4.3 beta since 3/4 months now
[13:00] <Stargazers> Does not help still :S
[13:00] <aftertaf> argh
[13:00] <Stargazers> Create empty panel -> add Application menu launcher.
[13:00] <Stargazers> Still no icon.
[13:00] <Stargazers> I had icons also on older version.
[13:00] <aftertaf> try killing plasma and restarting it from a konsole
[13:00] <aftertaf> see if debug messages are shown
[13:01] <Stargazers> plasma-desktop?
[13:01] <aftertaf> yeah
[13:02] <Stargazers> "KConfigIni: In file /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/config/kickoffrc , line 3: " Invalid entry (missing '=')
[13:02] <Stargazers> All right.
[13:02] <Stargazers> Let me see.
[13:02] <Stargazers> Uh looks like that file is corrupted hmmh.
[13:03] <aftertaf> 2nd option being, delete /home/you/.kde
[13:03] <Stargazers> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/368916
[13:03] <Stargazers> Well still no icons.
[13:04] <Stargazers> Have to try with another user if same problem occurs.
[13:04] <aftertaf> yeah, make fresh usr
[13:04] <Stargazers> Yeah. Have to test.
[13:04] <aftertaf> beta fun :)
[13:06] <aftertaf> still, it is nice :)
[13:06] <aftertaf> you'll see ;)
[13:07] <s0u][ight> hello, what version of kde is included in kubuntu 9.04?
[13:08] <bazhang> s0u][ight, kde4
[13:08] <s0u][ight> bazhang, not 4.2?
[13:09] <bazhang> s0u][ight, you running it now?
[13:10] <aftertaf> kde 4.2.? (3 i think)
[13:10] <s0u][ight> nope i wonder if i should download it
[13:10] <bazhang> 4.2.2 if I recall correctly
[13:10] <aftertaf> Kub 9.04? yeah :)
[13:10] <aftertaf> much smoother than 8.10
[13:10] <bazhang> okay thanks :)
[13:12] <aftertaf> i have missing window decorator with compiz and 4.3 beta
[13:12] <aftertaf> since this morning only
[13:13] <phh> why use compiz instead of kwin ?
[13:14] <rysiek|pl> phh: compiz has many more effects and is much, much more polished
[13:14] <rysiek|pl> that said, I am using kwin, when I'm on kde4, as it's just better integrated and feels more at home
[13:15] <phh> i find kwin way more polished ... last time i tried compiz it was just... unusable.
[13:15] <phh> can't say why, but i really hated it
[13:15] <rysiek|pl> phh: I am using kde3.5.x with compiz and kde4 with kwin effects on the same laptop
[13:15] <rysiek|pl> phh: and compiz has *loads* more effects and configuration options, and the animations are an order of magnitude more smooth
[13:16] <Stargazers> Well, new user is not even able to login to my KDE.
[13:16] <phh> hum ok
[13:16] <rysiek|pl> phh: not to mention that there are much less artifacts/drawing errors with compiz
[13:16] <phh> i have no artifacts/drawin error on kwin ...
[13:16] <phh> Stargazers: how do you create your user ?
[13:16] <Stargazers> phh: adduser
[13:16] <phh> (and animations are totally smooth here)
[13:17] <rysiek|pl> phh: flicker, etc, here all the time; but meh, intel card
[13:17] <rysiek|pl> phh: nevertheless I am a firm believer that kwin is "getting there" by the minute, really; I can't wait until I get on the kde4 bandwagon for good
[13:17] <phh> Stargazers: mmm i'm no longer sure, does it actually create the home directory ?
[13:17] <Stargazers> Uh,
[13:17] <Stargazers> Yes.
[13:18] <Stargazers> It does.
[13:18] <Stargazers> It says that temporary directories full?
[13:18] <Stargazers> And those are NOT full.
[13:18] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: I think you need to tell it explicitly (via the -m flag) to create the homedir
[13:18] <Stargazers> Mmh. At least there is home dir. Humm.
[13:18] <phh> rysiek|pl: this flag is only for useradd, not adduser
[13:18] <rysiek|pl> ah, maybe
[13:19] <Stargazers> Call to lnusertemp failed(temporary directories full?)
[13:19] <Stargazers> That is the error for new user.
[13:19] <phh> Stargazers: strace ? :D
[13:19] <Stargazers> strace?
[13:20] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: have you tried this new thing called Google? I have heard it's pretty neat
[13:20] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/17997/call-to-lnusertemp-failed-temporary-directories-full-check-your-installation.html
[13:20] <rysiek|pl> ;)_
[13:20] <FloodBotK2> rysiek|pl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:20] <Stargazers> rysiek|pl: Well the problem is that ATM I can't login to graphical session :P
[13:20] <Stargazers> So no. I haven't tested it.
[13:21] <Stargazers> Even with my old user it seems to "crash" (eg. logout fastly)
[13:21] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: ah... do you have a way to browse the net anyhow?
[13:21] <Stargazers> Well... I can reboot again :D
[13:21] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: where do you IRC from
[13:21] <Stargazers> From CLI.
[13:21] <Stargazers> Shell.
[13:21] <Stargazers> Mmh there is links :O
[13:21] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: ok, fire up a second terminal session
[13:22] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: log-in as a user that has the sudo privs
[13:22] <Stargazers> rysiek|pl: Yeah I opened another screen window and opened links
[13:22] <Stargazers> Oh ok
[13:22] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: ok, so you read the link I gave you?
[13:22] <Stargazers> Well it is open now let me look it.
[13:22] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: or want me to give you the commands
[13:22] <rysiek|pl> ok
[13:23] <Stargazers> There is no /var/tmp was the solve?
[13:23] <Stargazers> (looks little strange that page with links2...)
[13:23] <Stargazers> So not sure if I am at right place :D
[13:24] <Stargazers> Well now I have done that.
[13:24] <Stargazers> Mmh let me see.
[13:24] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: I think you should try trhat with /tmp instead of /var/tmp
[13:24] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: just look through your /var/log/kdm.log
[13:25] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: nope, I was wrong, /var/tmp it is
[13:28] <Stargazers> Well, now I am able to login to KDE with new user, thanks. :) But well, still, then main problem occurs.
[13:28] <Stargazers> I have no graphics on my taskbars. :S
[13:28] <rysiek|pl> that is?
[13:28] <rysiek|pl> ouch
[13:28] <Stargazers> Moment, I'll paste url
[13:28] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: what the heck install is that
[13:28] <Stargazers> rysiek|pl: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stargazers/3694085614/sizes/o/
[13:28] <Stargazers> Well dunno :D
[13:29] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: how did you install kubuntu?
[13:29] <Stargazers> I have installed Ubuntu and today I installed with aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[13:29] <Stargazers> I had also older versions, so it might cause that...
[13:29] <Stargazers> KDE 4.3 RC1
[13:29] <Stargazers> Is now
[13:29] <FloodBotK2> Stargazers: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <Stargazers> Err... floodbot :D
[13:29] <rysiek|pl> oh for the love of god, FloodBotK2 give it a break!
[13:30] <Stargazers> Versio 4.2.95 (KDE 4.2.95 (KDE 4.3 RC1))
[13:30] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: yeah, I have kde 4.3 rc1 here too
[13:30] <rysiek|pl> works AOK
[13:30] <Stargazers> All right.
[13:30] <Stargazers> Mmh. Any ideas what I can do to totally remove old crap of KDE and make clean installation?
[13:30] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: how did you install kubuntu, and kde4.3 on it?
[13:31] <Stargazers> I installed ubuntu first. Then I today upgraded to jaunty. I had installed older version of KDE, propablt KDE 4.2 AND Nightly build.
[13:31] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: when/if you answer to my question I might be able to answer yours
[13:31] <Stargazers> Then today I added 4.3 RC1
[13:31] <Stargazers> In apt repo.
[13:31] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: *how*? through some PPA/repository? compiled from sources?
[13:31] <rysiek|pl> ah
[13:31] <Stargazers> Oh, you meant that.
[13:31] <Stargazers> From repo.
[13:32] <Stargazers> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty main
[13:32] <rysiek|pl> you installed ubuntu or *kubuntu* first?
[13:32] <Stargazers> Ubuntu.
[13:32] <Stargazers> Then later kubuntu-desktop (because graphics didin't work after installation of kde-cores etc, I tried to install kubuntu-desktop)
[13:32] <Stargazers> It seems that _all_ graphics are lost, so maybe there is something pissed off in share folders hmm.
[13:33] <Stargazers> Permissions or similar.
[13:33] <Stargazers> Have to look
[13:33] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: humm, strange
[13:33] <rysiek|pl> installing kubuntu-desktop should not bork any permissions
[13:33] <Stargazers> Well, mmh.
[13:33] <Stargazers> Have to check if installation has stopped in any stage. Let me see.
[13:34] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: I would try downgrading to pure kubuntu, you have to find a howto on downgrading
[13:34] <rysiek|pl> basically it would involve removing the additional repository for kde4.3
[13:34] <rysiek|pl> and contructing a correct apt preferences file, I guess
[13:34] <rysiek|pl> then aptitude update && aptitude upgrade
[13:35] <Stargazers> Have to look if there is multiple repositories for kubuntu :O
[13:35] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: you said you added the backports
[13:35] <Stargazers> Yeah?
[13:35] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: remove the backports repo
[13:35] <Stargazers> Ok.
[13:36] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: or just comment it out (place # at the beginning of a line)
[13:36] <Stargazers> Yeah, made that.
[13:36] <rysiek|pl> now, gimme a sec
[13:36] <Stargazers> Ok.
[13:38] <Stargazers> http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-to-install-kde-43-rc1-in-kubuntu.html <-- Followed that
[13:40] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: ok, you commented-out the backports repo?
[13:40] <Stargazers> Yeah?
[13:40] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: I think the easiest way to downgrade KDE to the repo version is to remove it and reinstall it
[13:40] <Stargazers> kubuntu-desktop?
[13:40] <Stargazers> Just aptitude remove and then again?
[13:40] <rysiek|pl> but you have to do it from CLI ;)
[13:40] <Stargazers> Installing.
[13:40] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[13:40] <Stargazers> Well, that is not a problem :)
[13:40] <Stargazers> Well, have to look o/
[13:41] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: aptitude should spit out a whole lot of packages to be removed, as they are "not used anymore"
[13:41] <Stargazers> Ok.
[13:41] <rysiek|pl> kubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage, meaning, it's not a real package, but it depends on all packages needed for kubuntu
[13:42] <rysiek|pl> so removing only kubuntu-desktop won't dig it; hopefully aptitude will guess what we want to do and will pull the whole kde with it
[13:42] <rysiek|pl> I assume you have ubuntu-desktop installed, too ;)
[13:42] <Stargazers> Yeah, I have.
[13:43] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: when you fire up the sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop, tell me if it pulls the rest of the kde packages with it
[13:44] <Stargazers> Hmm, strange. Cannot remove kubuntu-desktop because it is metapacket. Why so, I have installed it via aptitude, so shouldn't aptitude be able to remove it also?
[13:44] <rysiek|pl> ?
[13:44] <Stargazers> Nothing to remove :S
[13:44] <Stargazers> kubuntu-docs seems pissed off.
[13:45] <Stargazers> Let me clean packages with clean
[13:45] <Stargazers> If there is something wrong.
[13:45] <rysiek|pl> I have no idea why you weren't able to remove kubuntu-desktop with th deps
[13:46] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[13:46] <Stargazers> Ok.
[13:47] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: if there are any packages "kept ack", do sudo aptitude dist-upgrade afterwards
[13:47] <rysiek|pl> *kept back
[13:47] <Stargazers> Nothing to install or update
[13:47] <rysiek|pl> damn
[13:47] <rysiek|pl> no idea then
[13:47] <rysiek|pl> was kubuntu-desktop uninstalled?
[13:48] <Stargazers> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop seems that it tries to install kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-docs
[13:48] <Stargazers> Well, it was NOT uninstalled.
[13:48] <Stargazers> So I have no idea why it tries to install it now again(!).
[13:48] <rysiek|pl> I have no idea
[13:48] <Stargazers> :)
[13:48] <Stargazers> kubuntu-docs isntallation fails
[13:48] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: you have your packages fscked up I think
[13:49] <rysiek|pl> I'd ask at #ubuntu for help
[13:49] <Stargazers> Well.
[13:49] <Stargazers> Have to lookj :)
[13:49] <rysiek|pl> Stargazers: just tell them that you want to downgrade kde and have problems with the packages
[13:50] <Stargazers> Well, have to go if I can't make it work soon.
[13:50] <rysiek|pl> me too
[13:56] <compilerwriter> Does anyone know if Jaunty ships with xorg 7.x or not or where would I look it up?
[13:57] <rysiek|pl> do you have jaunty on your machine?
[13:57] <compilerwriter> rysieklpl yes I have jaunty on my machine now.
[13:57] <rysiek|pl> then you can apttiude show xserver-xorg
[13:58] <rysiek|pl> or search through the packages.ubuntu.com website: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/xserver-xorg
[13:58] <rysiek|pl> *aptitude show xserver-xorg
[13:58]  * rysiek|pl bbl
[14:00] <canen> anyone using the kde 4.3 rc and getting regular plasma crashes?
[14:01] <SSJ_GZ> canen: Yes, lots of people :)
[14:01] <SSJ_GZ> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197717
[14:01] <canen> ok, glad it's not just me.
[14:01] <canen> thanks
[14:01] <SSJ_GZ> canen: Do report them if it's not a dupe of that one :)
[14:03] <canen> it seems to be fixed upstream
[14:03] <canen> so i guess we just have to wait
[14:05] <compilerwriter> It would appear that it ships with 7.4.  rysieklpl would you look at a web page for me and tell me if you think it would help to follow the instructions there?
[14:05] <rysiek|pl> what webpage
[14:06] <rysiek|pl> and help with what
[14:07] <compilerwriter> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=3049602867e43ae6b2bf989b14726d6e&t=72490
[14:08] <compilerwriter> that web page and I am having the damndest time getting my nvidia GeForce 4x to work with Jaunty.  Had it working in Ibex but in Jaunty no joy.
[14:09] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: there should be a "Restricted drivers" window popping up for you
[14:09] <compilerwriter> There should be, but there isn't
[14:10] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: and there should be restricted drivers manager somewhere in the KMenu/Kickoff
[14:10] <rysiek|pl> otherwise, I'm afraid I am unable to help
[14:10] <rysiek|pl> but from what I have seen (I also have an nVidia), nVidias are not problematic anymore, or at least that's my experience
[14:11] <rysiek|pl> search the Kickoff menu for "Restricted Drivers Manager" or something similar
[14:11] <rysiek|pl> it might also be in System Settings, probably
[14:11]  * rysiek|pl 's gotta go
[14:11] <rysiek|pl> bbl
[14:11] <compilerwriter> There was a hardware thing that I could click on.  ok.
[14:13] <compilerwriter> Can someone help me with my nvidia issues please?
[14:13] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: try Kickoff -> System -> Hardware drivers
[14:13] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: it's there on jaunty
[14:14] <melhisedek> how do I start and stop with Compiz using Kubuntu?
[14:15] <compilerwriter> I am going to try rysieklpl I thought you were gone and unavailiable to help further I just wanted someone else to start working with if that didn't work for me.
[14:16] <compilerwriter> right now my xserver is taking so long to fire up I may not have that option.
[14:18] <compilerwriter> If I am not mistaken that reccommended a driver that didn't work the last time I tried it.
[14:20] <dvda> Is there any way to set "custom" screen resolutions? My monitor resolution is 1240x1024 but there's no such option at the display manager (at my display manager I can choose 1152x864 and 1360x768 but not 1240x1024)
[14:20] <noaXess> hi all
[14:20] <noaXess> does anybody know about quanta for kde4
[14:20] <noaXess> ?
[14:21] <darthanubis> dvda: you could edit your xorg.coonf by hand
[14:21] <dvda> yeah, it's empty, I looked
[14:22] <dvda> and I'm not sure what xorg.conf exactly has to contain
[14:26] <compilerwriter> well Kickoff-> System -> Hardware drivers was a bust.  Does anyone have any idea how to get my GeForce 4.x to work with Jaunty?
[14:32] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:34] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj you have got to help with this damned nvidia issue, please....
[14:35]  * compilerwriter pours BluesKaj a snifter of Napoleon
[14:35]  * compilerwriter adopts a look of complete supllication
[14:39] <BluesKaj> ok compilerwriter what have you done so far with the nvidia drivers and which card is it ?
[14:40] <compilerwriter> I have tried installing a binary.
[14:40] <compilerwriter> I have done the system hardware thing.
[14:40] <compilerwriter> it is a GeForce 450 I think.  I know for sure it is a GeForce 4x.
[14:41] <compilerwriter> I have tried apt-get install nvidia-glx-96
[14:41] <compilerwriter> I don't know what to do anymore.
[14:41] <compilerwriter> I have found this web page http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=3049602867e43ae6b2bf989b14726d6e&t=72490
[14:41] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, we have to figure which card first ; lspci | grep -i vga
[14:42] <compilerwriter> I am afraid to try to follow those instructions blindly
[14:42] <compilerwriter> ok brb
[14:43] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, don't , just wait til we find out exactly what we are dealing with
[14:44] <compilerwriter> GeForce4 MX 420 BluesKaj
[14:44] <compilerwriter> Rev a3 if it matters BluesKaj
[14:44] <BluesKaj> ok compilerwriter , let me do some checking
[14:54] <BluesKaj> wow compilerwriter , seems there are some probs with that card . It's an onboard right ?
[14:56] <fabricio__> ola
[14:56] <fabricio__> helo
[14:56] <fabricio__> quem esta ai
[14:56] <melhisedek>  Can I get Xchat to open links right away?
[14:56] <melhisedek> And not have to right click on it and select "Open in browser" ?
[14:58] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj I am not yes it is internal to my box. This is an old Dell That I had working fine up until the upgrade to Jaunty.  it worked in Hardy.
[14:58] <fabricio__> e ai
[14:58] <fabricio__> blz
[14:58] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj to you mean a part of the motherboard when you ask it is and onboard.
[15:00] <BluesKaj> well, compilerwriter if the existing driver isn't working and I do see a lot of probs posted on the internet about that , so try the tutorial you have posted above , but follow the instructions for kubuntu to the letter , don't miss any steps
[15:00] <BluesKaj> yes onboard=part of the motherboard
[15:02] <compilerwriter> The video card is in a pci slot on my machine so I guess I could just replace the thing if I had to.  The question is with what.
[15:03] <compilerwriter> !Paste
[15:03] <BluesKaj> so it's a pci card ...hmm
[15:04] <compilerwriter> http://paste.ubuntu.com/211316/ There we go BluesKaj what do you think of that advice?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> I have the geforce 7600 gt and it works very well ..it takes a pcixpress slot tho
[15:05] <darthanubis> a video card on the PCI slot, LOL. Throw that POS in the trash!
[15:06] <darthanubis> Scrap up #32 from your mom and get a real video card
[15:06] <darthanubis> $32
[15:06] <darthanubis> You know, a vid card made ni the last !)yrs!
[15:06] <darthanubis> 10
[15:06] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, we have figure out if your setup has the Xorg 7.x version installed first
[15:07] <lesshaste> I just installed kile but when I go to Build->Compile it doesn't bring down any options
[15:07] <compilerwriter> It might be a pcixpress slot I am not sure how to tell the difference I am not a CEE
[15:07] <darthanubis> compilerwriter: that is a HUGE difference
[15:07] <darthanubis> but you said it was a gefore 4x series
[15:07] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, no need to trash talk other ppls stuff ...if you can help then by all means but negativity doesn't help
[15:07] <darthanubis> so it is NOT a PCIe slot card
[15:08] <lesshaste>  none of compile, convert, view or other show anything
[15:08] <darthanubis> BluesKaj: grow up
[15:08] <darthanubis> It was a comment to help him not WATE his time, which is MONEY
[15:08] <darthanubis> if you are too immature to see that then don't respond to ME
[15:08] <darthanubis> it was not "trash talk" I'm not 12
[15:09] <darthanubis> sheesh
[15:09] <bazhang> lets all calm down please
[15:09] <darthanubis> I'm fine
[15:09] <darthanubis> thx though
[15:09] <bazhang> less hostility from ALL sides please
[15:09] <compilerwriter> Thanks for the attempt guys I have to leave now.  I will try again when I get back.
[15:09]  * darthanubis no hostility here
[15:10] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj thanks I will try to talk to you later.
[15:10] <compilerwriter> bye all
[15:10] <BluesKaj> NP compilerwriter ..later is better
[15:18] <noren> hi all
[15:19] <noren> its taking too long to start up after loggin  how to rectify that
[15:20] <bazhang> noren, what services are you starting up with?
[15:20] <darthanubis> noren: how did you break it?
[15:20] <bazhang> noren, try disabling some
[15:21] <darthanubis> and what constitutes "too long"? Relative to what exactly?
[15:21] <noren> bazhang:  i am running normal kubuntu with all updayes, also boinc,
[15:21] <noren> updates
[15:21] <noren> too long means 2-3 mins after looging in !!
[15:22] <bazhang> noren, iirc you can check startup session and disable those you dont need; what does top show
[15:22] <bazhang> noren, ie in konsole type 'top'
[15:23] <darthanubis> try htop it is more friendly to humans
[15:24] <noren> bazhang: how can i check what all are beiing loaded and atartup and select and unselect from that
[15:24] <bazhang> noren, let me check
[15:24] <darthanubis> [10:22] <bazhang> noren, iirc you can check startup session and disable those you dont need; what does top show
[15:24] <eagles0513875> can anyone tell me if the svn version of plasma-widget-network-manager has been patched or something to allow it to connect to wpa encrypted wifi connections. i remember seeing a bug with it in jaunty but it seems to have resurfaced also in karmic im trying to determine if its a regression in the widget
[15:25] <bazhang> darthanubis, ??
[15:25] <darthanubis> eagles0513875: works fine here
[15:25] <noren> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/211328/ << see this
[15:25] <darthanubis> bazhang: I was pasting your answer to noren because you already answered her question
[15:25] <bazhang> noren, hang on a second let me check my system
[15:25] <eagles0513875> darthanubis: i know but do you know of any patches that have been applied to the widget for jaunty that probably havent been applied to the widget in karmic
[15:25] <bazhang> darthanubis, that is not necessary
[15:26] <darthanubis> eagles0513875: Idk
[15:26] <darthanubis> bazhang: seemed like she missed it? Hence necessary
[15:26] <eagles0513875> bazhang: do you have any idea
[15:26] <bazhang> eagles0513875, a bit busy at the moment
[15:26] <eagles0513875> ok
[15:26] <eagles0513875> sry
[15:27] <noren> darthanubis: iirc ??
[15:27] <darthanubis> noren: session startup?
[15:27] <noren> darthanubis: iirc how to run taht it says invalid command
[15:28] <bazhang> noren, if I recall correctly
[15:28] <bazhang> noren, my mistake, just type 'top' (without the quotes) in konsole
[15:29] <noren> i just pastes the output of top here in pastebin
[15:29] <noren> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com:80/211328/ << see this
[15:29] <ice_> hi everybody
[15:29] <ice_> i'm new of this channel
[15:29] <bazhang> noren, okay , just checking my system for the sessions settings hang on a  second
[15:29] <ice_> i'm looking for some information about
[15:29] <noren> bazhang: ok
[15:29] <ice_> xorg.xonf editing
[15:30] <ice_> someone can help me or indicate me the right room?
[15:30] <noren> !ask | ice_
[15:30] <bazhang> noren, can't recall the exact name in kde4; startup applications, or something similar, looking in your preferences/settings for it
[15:31] <darthanubis> ice_: no need to edit xorg.conf, and it is empty in ubuntu anyway. Read up on xorg.conf from google
[15:31] <pantera69> hy to all
[15:32] <pantera69> some one for romania ??
[15:32] <ice_> my xorg server does not recognise my monitor refresh rate over 60Hz. My monitor can run at 1024X768 @85 Mhz. I would like to edit xorg.conf file or run wizard. I have Kubuntu 8.10. How I can do it?
[15:33] <darthanubis> ice_: LCDs need not be ran above 60hz. You can read up on that on google as well
[15:34] <ice_> darthanubis is a CRT monitor
[15:34] <darthanubis> If you have a Nvidia card there is a nvidia configuration gui, and nvidia-xconfig
[15:34] <darthanubis> ouch
[15:34] <darthanubis> what video card?
[15:34] <noren> bazhang: i found system setting>> advanced >> session manager && service manager !!
[15:35] <ice_> integrated Intel 945 gm
[15:35] <darthanubis> noren: excellent!
[15:35] <noren> but cant figure out the bare minimum setting for in the serrvice manager
[15:35] <darthanubis> ice_: such a crappy monitor for modern GPU, I feel for you
[15:36] <noaXess> does anybody have information about quanta for kde4? just upgraded to kubuntu, kde 4.2.95 (4.3 RC1) and quanta was removed, because newer versions of following packages are installed: kfilereplace, klinkstatus, kommander
[15:36] <bazhang> noren, seems like possible candidates are the seti at home / plasma/ ktorrent
[15:36] <ice_> i've tried to run dpgk reconfigure xserver-xorg but it left me an error message
[15:36] <bazhang> ice hang on a second
[15:37] <ice_> i would like to add in xorg.conf a new mode: 1024X768 @75 or 85 hertz. But i don't know the syntax..
[15:37] <ice_> ok
[15:37] <darthanubis> ice_: I'm going to google search for you
[15:37] <ice_> ok thanks darthanubis
[15:38] <noren> ok thanks bazhang && darthanubis
[15:38] <bazhang> noaXess, and what happens when you try and reinstall quanta?
[15:39] <bazhang> ice_, what card is it
[15:39] <darthanubis> ice_: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/37847
[15:39] <darthanubis> ice_: there is a config for you to start with
[15:40] <darthanubis> ice_: they have the same GPU, maybe you can start with their xorg.conf and get somewhere?
[15:40] <darthanubis> ice_: it seems the answer is there as well
[15:40] <ice_> ok, now i read to this page and try to understand. thank you for the moment
[15:41] <darthanubis> ice_: gotta run, good luck
[15:41] <ice_> darthanubis: thanks a lot
[15:42] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 ice_ intel right?
[15:42] <kubu> Hi pals. i had problem after trying to upgrade to KDE 4.3 Rc1, with error display of "libindi0", any help please.
[15:42] <noaXess> bazhang: this happends if i want install quanta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/211337/
[15:42] <bazhang> ice_, that is a very long thread ^^ probably want to check later pages (out of 93)
[15:43] <bazhang> noaXess, seems the PPA has newer packages that conflict with quanta
[15:44] <bazhang> noaXess, this is the latest kde4 ppa correct?
[15:45] <noaXess> bazhang: jep, thats from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.95
[15:45] <noaXess> bazhang: have you upgraded to this kde version?
[15:45] <bazhang> noaXess, waiting for something less experimental :)
[15:46] <noaXess> bazhang: ok.. so, i think... later there will be a newer quanta release.. i hope
[15:46] <noaXess> i love quanta to develop web pages in pure html..
[15:46] <noaXess> nice ftp sync interface..
[15:46] <bazhang> noaXess, certainly, at some point; how important is quanta to you now is the question
[15:48] <noaXess> bazhang: in the moment not very important.. but sometimes i need it to update a customer webpage..
[15:48] <noaXess> bazhang: i don't find any clear information, if there will be a kde4 version of quanta..
[15:48] <ice_> bazhang: yes intel. but I don't think it depends by video card. Because with an other monitor it works fine..
[15:48] <bazhang> noaXess, ah I see. Not sure when the fix will be in on that, sorry not to know more about that
[15:49] <noaXess> bazhang: no problem :)
[15:49] <bazhang> ice_, this is dual monitors then?
[15:51] <ice_> bazhang: no. i have changed monitor. The previous monitor (Samsung 76E) works fine. But this Sampo alphascan does not work over 60Hz refresh. But in windows it works better up to 85 Hz at 1024x768
[16:22] <mermshaus> hi! quick hint where I can find the ~/.bash_profile equivalent in Kubuntu Jaunty? (or tell me what I have to do to get it re-interpreted?) googling for it drove me crazy.
[16:28] <BluesKaj> mermshaus, equivalent ? isn't bash_profile is your login ?
[16:30] <mermshaus> BluesKaj: I have no idea. I tried to add an "alias" line to .bash_profile and restarted Konsole. But well, that didn't work. I can't use the alias. I'm missing something here, right?
[16:31] <BluesKaj> I think you need root (sudo su ) to edit bash_profile mermshaus
[16:32] <BluesKaj> mermshaus, this might help clear things up.. http://www.linuxjournal.com/video/bash-startup-scripts-bashrc-and-bashprofile
[16:32] <mermshaus> BluesKaj: thx, i'll take a look
[16:46] <mermshaus> BluesKaj: okay, it works if I put it in .bashrc. thanks again
[16:48] <BluesKaj> yeah, bash_profile is the login ..bashrc is the actual shell
[17:06] <pantheras> вечер добрый)
[17:07] <bazhang> !ru | pantheras
[17:13] <hantechbl> hello
[17:17] <hantechbl> is this where I can get help with dolphin
[17:26] <davidjheinrich> does anyone here know if there is a program for Kubuntu for standards-compliant web-site design that produces simple code? (i.e., I don't want font styles hard-coded and uber-complicated code, as OO.org seems to make)
[17:29] <|MaSa69|> davidjheinrich do you mean somethinglike this http://net2.com/nvu/
[17:30] <pantheras> привет
[17:30] <bazhang> pantheras, #ubuntu-ru
[17:32] <davidjheinrich> |MaSa69| yea, sort of like hat...seems like Kompozer is the replacement for 64-bit Kubuntu
[17:33] <davidjheinrich> |MaSa69| what about just code-highlighting? Can Kate do that?
[17:35] <|MaSa69|> davidjheinrich yea, i think so
[17:38] <BlueChili> davidheinrich: indeed Kate can do it
[17:41] <davidjheinrich> BlueChili: How do I get Kate to do that? just name the file .html?
[17:42] <BlueChili> Tools -> highlighting -> Markup
[17:44] <Stargazers> Hi. Stupid question, but HOW I can move widgets from my panel to another place?
[17:44] <davidjheinrich> BlueChili: thanks
[17:44] <Stargazers> I mean, if I had a clock in wrong place in my panel, I can't find how I can move it? :S
[17:44] <Stargazers> On KDE 4.3 RC1
[17:45] <BlueChili> Stargazers: good ol' drag and drop
[17:45] <Stargazers> BlueChili: Err, tried it but can't make it work.
[17:45] <BlueChili> davidheinrich: k :)
[17:45] <Stargazers> BlueChili: I can make it if item is on desktop
[17:45] <BlueChili> Stargazers: have you unlocked the widgets?
[17:45] <Stargazers> Mmh. Let me see.
[17:46] <Stargazers> Yes.
[17:46] <Stargazers> They are unlocked.
[17:46] <Stargazers> For example, Application launcher menu.
[17:46] <Stargazers> When I try to "move it" with drag and drop, it just open that menu
[17:47] <BlueChili> Stargazers: then that feature hasn't been implemented
[17:47] <Stargazers> .__O
[17:48] <Stargazers> Mm.
[17:48] <BlueChili> Stargazers: just trying rigth now, is not working for me neither
[17:48] <aeng> tes
[17:48] <Stargazers> Ok...
[17:48] <Stargazers> BlueChili: I thought that I am just too dumb :D
[17:56] <cinq> hi
[18:01] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody else experiencing Kontact/KMail eating insane amounts of RAM?
[18:01] <rysiek|pl> as in 800-900MiB insane?
[18:03] <sep1318> Stargazers: what are you trying to do? Sorry, I just came in.
[18:04] <sep1318> rysiek|pl: sorry dude, I don't use KMail.
[18:04] <dhq> i need help .... i am a MSc computer network security student and have to do a project as part of my course...  can anyone suggest some topics which are feasable
[18:04] <rysiek|pl> sep1318: no problem, really ;)
[18:06] <sep1318> dhq: what kind of project?
[18:06] <dhq> sep1318: well anything related to computer & network security
[18:07] <Stargazers> sep1318: Trying to move widget in panel.
[18:07] <sep1318> dhq: right, but "project" could mean anything. do you need to code something, do a literature review or other write-up, research, etc...
[18:07] <dhq> bits and peices of all ^^
[18:09] <sep1318> Stargazers: once you've unlocked the widgets, you need to click on the cashew so you get the panel's resize bar. then you can drag them around.
[18:09] <sep1318> dhq: my first suggestion would be something about the ssh bug that debian had a while back.
[18:09] <dhq> sep1318: like wat
[18:10] <dhq> sep1318:  what is it about
[18:12] <sep1318> dhq: it was something about one of the developers commenting out a bit of code that they didn't know what it did, but thought it wasn't necessary, that made it so that every tunnel used the same hash key. i don't quite remember or know everything about it, but it seemed pretty huge.
[18:13] <dhq> sep1318: that seems very techie / am looking for something decently easy
[18:13] <cinex> the ssh bug in debian was that it was using a process id number (PID?) to generate the random keys, only it used a number below 1000 always meaning that there were very few combinations. someone had generated a list of keys etc so that all debian machiens could be bruted - quickly
[18:14] <cinex> something like that
[18:14] <sep1318> thanx, cinex.
[18:14] <cinex> those keys are all blacklisted now
[18:14] <sep1318> right.
[18:15] <sep1318> dhq: i don't know what you have/want to do with it, but i was just suggesting it as a general topic starting point, something that seemed relevant.
[18:16] <dhq> sep1318: well you see i am looking for something with a little of programming .... and more of research and all
[18:16] <Stargazers> sep1318: Uuh, I can see resize-arrow but I am unable to move my items, even that they are unlocked.
[18:17] <sep1318> Stargazers: that's very odd.
[18:17] <Stargazers> Jeah.
[18:18] <Stargazers> Should I press any other key when try to move it?
[18:18] <Stargazers> Than left mouse button
[18:18] <sep1318> no
[18:18] <Stargazers> Well...
[18:18] <sep1318> you've got the resize bar on top of the panel?
[18:18] <Stargazers> Yeah.
[18:18] <Stargazers> And then I move my mouse over item I want to move.
[18:18] <Stargazers> There comes cross-cursor.
[18:18] <sep1318> yeah
[18:19] <Stargazers> But when I press mouse button and drag -> nothing happens.
[18:19] <sep1318> you've stumped me, cuz that shouldn't happen
[18:19] <Stargazers> Wait wait wait!
[18:19] <sep1318> :(
[18:19] <sep1318> o?
[18:19] <sep1318> O.O
[18:19] <Stargazers> I can move Application Menu AND note-item, but tray item cannot be moved :O
[18:19] <Stargazers> Mmh.
[18:20] <Stargazers> What now it moved :O
[18:20] <Stargazers> Uhm but it didn't kept it's place.
[18:20] <sep1318> wierd.
[18:20] <Emery> i'm looking to install kde3 with the minimal cd, any ideas ?
[18:21] <sep1318> Stargazers: if you just kick on a widget, can you move it?
[18:21] <sep1318> click*
[18:21] <Stargazers> Mmh... let me see
[18:22] <Stargazers> Well, yeah it seems that I can move that item IF my mouse is NOT over cross.
[18:22] <Stargazers> Uhm.
[18:22] <Stargazers> But still I can't move it to the right side of my panel.
[18:22] <Stargazers> All items are on the left. Should I add some empty space somehow?
[18:23] <sep1318> so you've got a few things on the left and nothing on the right?
[18:24] <sep1318> what happens when you try to add something new?
[18:24] <sep1318> you may just not have enough items?
[18:24] <sep1318> iunno, hairbrained idea.
[18:24] <Stargazers> Well. Now I have added 3 items. Thgey take about 200px space. I want to move one of those three items at the right side of that panel.
[18:25] <Stargazers> But I can't. I can move it right side of other two items, but not at the right of that panel.
[18:25] <Stargazers> Uhm.
[18:25] <Stargazers> Ha!
[18:25] <Stargazers> Add spacer :D
[18:26] <Stargazers> Now it is great :) Thank you for your help.
[18:26] <sep1318> glad I could be of service
[18:27] <Stargazers> Uhm. that panel resizing is also little confusing stuff.
[18:27] <Stargazers> Now it is little smaller than my desktop, mmh.
[18:28] <sep1318> under the more settings button/menu that's on the bar, there's a maximize option
[18:28] <Stargazers> Oh, yeah, just found. Thanks.
[18:28] <Stargazers> Little hard to find :)
[18:28] <sep1318> yeah.
[18:28]  * sep1318 will be back after lunch.
[18:30] <fahd> hey guys and girls
[18:30] <fahd> how is evry one?
[18:30] <Cellomander> Hi, what can be the reason that I can not connect to any of the chat tools on kubuntu 9.04?
[18:31] <SilverCode> does anyone know the (q)dbus command to set the network to "online" ?
[18:32] <Cellomander> Eventhough you get connected on Kopete, you can not send or receive a message
[18:32] <Stargazers> But well, thanks. Gotta go now :)
[18:32] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj you availiable?
[18:32] <Emery> i'm looking to install kde3 with the minimal cd, any ideas ?
[18:33] <BluesKaj> I'm here , compilerwriter
[18:33] <compilerwriter> I have a few minutes to work on this nvidia thing now.  You have any thoughts on the matter since we last spoke?
[18:36] <noaXess> ho do i remove old kernels? i found grub manager in systemsettings but this just removes the entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:36] <noaXess> how do i now remove all old kernels without an entry in menu.lst?
[18:40] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: you can see which kernels are installed with dpkg -i | grep linux
[18:40] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: oops, my bad!
[18:40] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[18:40] <noaXess> rysiek|pl: ok
[18:41] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: then you can remove all but the ones you're using (check it well! :) ) with apt-get or aptitude
[18:41] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: e.g. sudo aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic
[18:42] <noaXess> rysiek|pl: will the linux-headers and linux-restricted-moduls also be removed?
[18:42] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: yes, it will ask about it
[18:42] <compilerwriter> It appears BluesKaj that my card uses AGP and not pci express so what card to utilize to replace this MX 420 or do we try the install instructions I head earlier?
[18:42] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: be careful not to remove the kernel you are using! a good idea, also, is to leave a single older kernel, too
[18:43] <noaXess> rysiek|pl: i will leave all 2.6.28 kernels..
[18:43] <noaXess> 11, 12, 13
[18:44] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: as you wisj
[18:44] <rysiek|pl> *wish
[18:51] <sebbar> hi, after upgrading to 4.3rc I got no "window boxes" in the taskbar... what to do?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, it seems a lot of ppl have a prob with that card , maybe you should try the tutorial , you can always reinstall the 96 driver later if need be
[18:55] <compilerwriter> ok BluesKaj
[18:56] <compilerwriter> Can you think of any agp video cards that might work BluesKaj or do I just need to start getting money together to buy a new motherboard and start all over BluesKaj?
[18:58] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, maybe the older nvidias might have some agp crds ...dunno for sure , but stay away from ati, they're worse
[18:58] <rysiek|pl> sebbar: report a bug or go to #kde
[18:58] <rysiek|pl> sebbar: it's named RC for a reason ;)
[18:58] <compilerwriter> BluesKaj how do I go about seeing which kernal Ive got so that I can install linux-headers?
[18:59] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: uname -r
[18:59] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[18:59] <compilerwriter> thanks rysieklpl
[18:59] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: those are ticks (`)!
[19:00] <sebbar> rysiek|pl: ok, I was just wondering if it was a well known issue since both me and my girlfriend upgraded today and notied the bug. thanks though
[19:00] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: if you use TAB you get autocompletion with the nicks on IRC
[19:00] <sebbar> what's the name for the window boxes in the task bar?
[19:00] <BluesKaj> yeah, but you can also look in synaptic and see what you've got installed , could be several ...uname only gives the first
[19:00] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: please use my nick as it's spelled, otherwise I don't get the pings here ;)
[19:01] <rysiek|pl> sebbar: humm... tasbar buttons?
[19:01] <compilerwriter> rysiek|pl: sorry I thought I was typing it correctly.
[19:01] <rysiek|pl> compilerwriter: no problemo, just sayin' ;)
[19:02] <BluesKaj> rysiek|pl, what's this thing with non alpha characters in nicks ...it's a pita , unless one use the tab key
[19:03] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: well, first off, there's too many guys named "rysiek" here, so you gotta try something
[19:04] <BluesKaj> yeah right :)
[19:04] <compilerwriter> hey I learned about the tab key BluesKaj.
[19:04] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: wanna bet? here in Poland, yes, many
[19:04] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: then there's theis shiny new thing called "Unicode" that handles those chars nicely across IRC clients
[19:04] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: and then there's the Mighty Tab
[19:04] <BluesKaj> ok  rysiek|pl , gotcha
[19:05] <rysiek|pl> BluesKaj: by the way, what's with those non-lowercase chars in nicks, it's a pita, unless you use Tab ;)
[19:05] <noaXess> rysiek|pl: can i also remove all old linux-restricted-modules and linux-ubuntu-modules??
[19:05] <BluesKaj> :)
[19:05] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: all those that match the kernel versions you're removing, yup
[19:06] <noaXess> rysiek|pl: look here.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/211440/
[19:07] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: when I did sudo aptitude purge linux-image-2.6.24-21-generic
[19:07] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: I got asked about the modules* packages, too
[19:07] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: it should be pretty automagic
[19:07] <noaXess> rysiek|pl: mine not :(
[19:10] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: either way, yes, you can remove those, too
[19:10] <rysiek|pl> noaXess: those, that match the kernels that you remove, that is
[19:11] <Tacosarecool> hello
[19:11] <Tacosarecool> I'm going to enable uxa
[19:11] <Tacosarecool> but I have nothing in my xorg.conf
[19:12] <Tacosarecool> I don't have a device section
[19:12] <ThemeSeries> i got my sudo back!!!!
[19:12] <Tacosarecool> cool
[19:12] <Teiwaz> день добрый
[19:13] <manmath> HI
[19:13] <Tacosarecool> How do I add a device section to xorg.conf
[19:14] <Teiwaz> вот поставила wine  а как установить вин приложение не доходит.... есть советы?
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !ru |  Teiwaz
[19:14] <rysiek|pl> Tacosarecool: why would you need one?
[19:15] <ThemeSeries> is there a virtual cd drive for ubuntu???
[19:15] <Tacosarecool> intel drivers
[19:15] <Tacosarecool> enabling uxa
[19:15] <rysiek|pl> ThemeSeries: What for?
[19:15] <ThemeSeries> to mount ebox
[19:15] <rysiek|pl> ThemeSeries: you can use mount -o loop
[19:15] <rysiek|pl> ThemeSeries: even a cdrom is seen as a part of the folder tree\
[19:15] <ThemeSeries> someone told me yesterday that i should remove webmin and use ebox
[19:16] <ThemeSeries> the command would be mount -o "nameof file
[19:16] <ThemeSeries> ?
[19:18] <Tacosarecool> oh that's the problem
[19:18] <Tacosarecool> How do I edit xorg.conf
[19:20] <Tacosarecool> so instead of configured video device I say Option AccelMethod “UXA"
[19:20] <Tacosarecool> right
[19:22] <Tacosarecool> do I?
[19:22] <noaXess> rysiek|pl: so, back after reboot and all is ok :)
[19:23] <noaXess> other problem.. i can't edit the login manager preferences in system settings / advanced.. i'm on kde 4.2.95 (4.3 RC1).. any other has same problem? can't switch into admin mode
[19:23] <Tacosarecool> so do I replace configured video device with Option AccelMethod “UXA
[19:23] <Tacosarecool> "
[19:24] <robin0800> Tacosarecool "Option" "Accelmethod" "UXA"
[19:25] <Tacosarecool> ok then do I put it under or do i replace configured video device?
[19:25] <robin0800> Tacosarecool under
[19:26] <Tacosarecool> ok robin i'll make a pastebin and can you make sure I'm right?
[19:27] <Tacosarecool> http://pastebin.com/d734d9b0b
[19:28] <harjot> guys any1 can help me my wine has a problem
[19:29] <Tacosarecool> and option doesn't need the " "
[19:29] <Tacosarecool> I
[19:29] <Tacosarecool> 'm pretty sure
[19:29]  * harjot wishes 4 help
[19:30]  * harjot wishes 4 help
[19:30] <harjot> any1?'
[19:30] <Tacosarecool> maybe more like this http://pastebin.com/d5ef4039d
[19:30] <harjot> GUYS'
[19:30] <harjot> PEOPLE
[19:30] <harjot> HELLO THERE
[19:30] <FloodBotK2> harjot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:31] <harjot> wine experts here?
[19:31] <harjot> ok i give up here
[19:32] <BluesKaj> !wine | harjot
[19:32] <harjot> BluesKaj: already joined that place
[19:33] <Captain_Haddock> !question
[19:37] <Tacosarecool> Ok
[19:37] <Tacosarecool> I think I got it right now
[19:37] <Tacosarecool> Thanks
[19:39] <vismad> hola
[19:39] <Captain_Haddock> hi
[19:40] <vismad> necesito un poco de ayuda
[19:40] <vismad> me podrian ayudar¿?
[19:40] <Captain_Haddock> !es
[19:41] <DOOM777> hey
[19:41] <DOOM777> what is the lifetime of export command?
[19:42] <Ursinha> DOOM777, it's valid for the session
[19:42] <DOOM777> what if I want to make an environment variable permanently?
[19:42] <Ursinha> if you set in a konsole, it'll be valid for the stuff you run in that konsole
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> DOOM777: you'll want to set it in your .bashrc file or similar.
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> google should help with examples.
[19:44] <DOOM777> ok thanks
[19:47] <ThemeSeries> where is the mount
[19:47] <ThemeSeries> where is the mount folder
[19:48] <balinta> sziasztok
[19:48] <DOOM777> ThemeSeries: /dev, maybe?
[19:50] <ThemeSeries> thanks
[19:50] <balinta> valaki online magyar?
[19:50] <balinta> valaki online magyar?
[19:51] <Guest66741> hello. problem: i installed crunchbang, which worked very nice. then i installed ubuntu as a second os. and now i can not boot my crunchbang anymore. why this happen?
[19:55] <Guest66741> ok, no answer. next question. i am now on ubuntu 8.04 and i would like to upgrade it to 9. but, its not working. does somebody know where i can find the sources list for 9.04?
[19:58] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: This is #kubuntu btw.. you might want to try #ubuntu
[19:58] <Captain_Haddock> re: crunchbag... what happens exactly?
[19:58] <Captain_Haddock> crunchbang* I don't know what this is btw :P
[19:59] <ThemeSeries> hey guys is ebox like webmin and cpanel??
[19:59] <Guest66741> well, i installed, crunchbang, which worked very nice, then i installed ubuntu on the same HDD and since then i cant boot crunchbang anymore, which was first on the HDD
[19:59] <ThemeSeries> i don't want to waste my time installing it when webmin is good for mew
[19:59] <ThemeSeries> me
[19:59] <Guest66741> crunchbang is a very small, and f... fast linux distri
[20:00] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: what happens exactly? GRUB error?
[20:00] <ThemeSeries> help anyone?
[20:00] <Guest66741> looks like.
[20:00] <ThemeSeries> hey guys is ebox like webmin and cpanel??\
[20:00] <Guest66741> if i boot it says: "Error 2: Failed" and somet
[20:00] <Guest66741> something behind
[20:01] <Guest66741> but!
[20:01] <Captain_Haddock> I'm not sure.. but you might need to do some grub editing
[20:01] <Captain_Haddock> !grub
[20:01] <Guest66741> i am now on ubuntu, of course crunchbang is not booting, and i have full access to my crunchbang part
[20:02] <Guest66741> no, not after installing windows. who wants to have windows?
[20:02] <caye> sara
[20:02] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: you probably just need to fix your grub... windows is just an example of situations where this happens
[20:02] <Guest66741> yes, i had this problems before as well, with windows. but, how i can repairt the boot loader from crunchbang?
[20:02] <ThemeSeries> is ebox better than webmin???
[20:02] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: there's also this thing called supergrubdisk.org which I use frequently to test things out... you might want to give it a shot to narrow things down.
[20:03] <Guest66741> what is this
[20:03] <Captain_Haddock> ThemeSeries: What does that have to do with Kubuntu? Aren't they hosting controlpanels?
[20:04] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: I'm not terribly familiar with fixing GRUB... you might want to wait for somebody with more knowledge than I or do some googling... supergrubdisk might be a safe bet to get access to either install in the interim.
[20:06] <Guest66741> Captain_Haddock: the side is nice, thaks for that first. i will have a look into some http. and now.. how i can upgrade my ubuntu to 9.04? sudo upgrade is not working so i guess that i have to replace my sources.list with the new links, but where i can find it?
[20:07] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: it ought to be in /etc/apt
[20:07] <sophie2> hello
[20:08] <Captain_Haddock> hi
[20:08] <sophie2> does exist any thumbnailer for video?
[20:09] <sophie2> mplayerthumbs?
[20:09] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: instead of meddling with that, I suggest that you give the alternate ISO a shot.. might be more reliable as it supports upgrades.
[20:10] <Captain_Haddock> sophie2: mplayer is usually the answer to these things, yes :)
[20:10] <Guest66741> agree, but there is the next problem: i have the iso here but i have no idea how to bring it to a cd rom as bin.
[20:10] <sophie2> mplayerthumbs works, but only with konqueror :\
[20:10] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: google for mounting an iso file
[20:10] <Guest66741> Captain_Haddock: i did.
[20:11] <Captain_Haddock> what did you do?
[20:11] <sophie2> oh, it works now
[20:11] <Captain_Haddock> !upgrade
[20:12] <Captain_Haddock> Guest66741: the upgrading page (last link above) should have details on upgrading using the *alternate* ISO
[20:13] <Guest66741> Captain_Haddock: reading.. good stuff
[20:17] <inSane> hi @ all
[20:18] <inSane> Ihr seid meine einzige hoffnung - habe ein problem mit skype und meiner Webcam - das mistding will einfach nicht laufen... fehler : ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[20:20] <Captain_Haddock> !de | inSane
[20:21] <harjot> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!de
[20:21] <harjot> !de
[20:21] <harjot> !de
[20:21] <harjot> \
[20:21] <harjot> de
[20:21] <FloodBotK2> harjot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:21] <harjot> omg
[20:21] <inSane> @all: SORRY
[20:21] <harjot> guys could i have wine help
[20:21] <Captain_Haddock> inSane: np :)
[20:24] <DarkKrai> Does anyone know of a script that executes a shell script on right click?
[20:25] <epenor> hi everybody!
[20:31] <wesley_> boa tarde pessoal.
[20:32] <wesley_> alquem pode me ajudar?
[20:32] <Kovert> !es
[20:33] <wesley_> estou com um problema de edição do grub no kurumin NG
[20:37] <cjae> ok I used a dark System Setting Appearance Color and switch it back to grey so I could see all the option in the gtk app I am using, but it remains dark how can I lighten it?
[20:38] <cjae> do I need to logout out and in
[20:39] <cjae> using kde 4.2.4 sorry
[20:40] <DarkKrai> Does anyone know of a script that executes a shell script on right click?
[20:42] <coredump> Question for KDE3.X support - Is there a version of Kubuntu 9.04 *without* KDE 4.x ?
[20:44] <BluesKaj> !jaunty remix
[20:45] <BluesKaj> !info jaunty remix
[20:45] <coredump> Meh - have 8.04.2 and it's reliable enough
[20:46] <coredump> Don't want Kde 4.whatever just yet, so I'm stuck with 8.04.2
[20:46] <BluesKaj> coredump, theres a project known as jaunty remix that use kde3.5 ..google will find it
[20:46] <coredump> also: is support for a release 18 months only?
[20:46] <coredump> tks BluesKaj
[20:46] <BluesKaj> np
[20:49] <coredump> sorted -> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty
[20:49] <coredump> I'm out . Thanks again
[20:55] <lakis1982> what does it mean when you say something to a girl and it answers  ::    lol your a dum ass ????   anyone american here to translate  please??
[20:55] <DarkKrai> lol
[20:56] <xuzas> guai
[20:56] <nacho_> holaa
[20:57] <Kovert> !es
[20:57] <BluesKaj> lakis1982, uhmm , let's just say it's not a compliment about your brains, despite the expression
[20:57] <lakis1982> what mean dum ass ?? its the same with dumb ass ?
[20:58] <DarkKrai> yeah
[21:01] <xuzas> capullos!
[21:01] <xuzas> :D
[21:01] <xuzas> !es
[21:01] <xuzas> !in
[21:02] <xuzas> !en
[21:02] <xuzas> !at
[21:02] <DarkKrai> =/
[21:03] <xuzas> !lu
[21:03] <xuzas> !man
[21:03] <jussi01> !botabuse | xuzas
[21:04] <xuzas> !melasuda
[21:04] <xuzas> !deutschland
[21:04] <xuzas> !irc
[21:05] <xuzas> !guidelines
[21:26] <darkrai_> has anyone been able to run Photoshop CS4 under WINE?
[21:28] <Adola> Hi!  how can I make an script to load all of my favorite programs?
[21:29] <Dragnslcr> A bash script?
[21:29] <Adola> I suppose, yes!
[21:29] <Dragnslcr> Any text editor will work
[21:30] <Adola> Dragnslcr: Well, I have a script, but, it doesn't work, like, it will load "compiz" and then not load any of the other programs.
[21:31] <Dragnslcr> If a bash script executes a program, the script won't continue until that program finishes
[21:32] <Adola> Dragnslcr: Then what can I do?
[21:32] <Dragnslcr> You can use & to push a program to the background
[21:32] <Adola> Dragnslcr:
[21:32] <Adola> fusion-icon
[21:32] <Adola> konversation -caption "%c" %i
[21:39] <sooki> how well does kde4 handle having compizfusion installed on top of it? the window decorations are hideous :P
[21:40] <rysiek|pl> sooki: use emerald decorator with compiz
[21:40] <sooki> yeah, that's the plan
[21:44] <Adola> Dragnslcr: I'm sorry, I got disconnected, I don't know if you told me how to fix my bash problem or not.
[21:44] <Dragnslcr> Adola- you can use & to push a program to the background
[21:44] <Adola> Dragnslcr: How do I "use" &
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> Something like "command &"
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> You might want to dig up a bash tutorial. It'll probably know more than I do
[21:45] <Adola> Ok, thanks!
[21:49] <pair0doc> does kubuntu log removed packages to somewhere like /var/log simular to other distros?
[21:58] <banditti> is the smb/nfs with kde notoriously bad or is it because I am running 4.3rc1?
[22:00] <spiroo> Help, I want plasma back in my kde. RC, how to do?
[22:09] <rysiek|pl> spiroo: #kde
[22:09] <rysiek|pl> spiroo: I don't think anybody here is able to help with development snapshots of KDE
[22:10] <spiroo> It does not work in my Kubuntu version either.
[22:21] <cjae> !id3tag
[22:22] <cjae> !easytag
[22:22] <cjae> !info easytag
[22:22] <cjae> kde alternative
[22:22] <cjae> !ktag
[22:24] <rysiek|pl> cjae: KId3Tag
[22:25] <rysiek|pl> cjae: oops... kid3
[22:25] <cjae> rysiek|pl, do you know if it compares against a database?
[22:26] <rysiek|pl> cjae: no idea; I always used KAudioCreator to rip cds and that did compare against FreeDB
[22:26] <rysiek|pl> cjae: but tagging already existing media... never done it
[22:26] <rysiek|pl> cjae: aptitude install kid3 and check it out yourself? :)
[22:27] <cjae> rysiek|pl, thanks
[22:27] <rysiek|pl> cjae: you're welcome
[22:44] <frenchy> hello every one
[22:44] <Tomten> hey frenchy
[22:45] <frenchy> a couple of days ago i wanted to update amarok to 2.1 and added the jaunty repertory, since then i got only problems with kde.
[22:45] <frenchy> Hi Tmten
[22:45] <frenchy> sorry hi tomten
[22:47] <frenchy> anyways, plasma crash all the time, it is really annoying but the worse just happened now, i wanted to delete a folder link from my desktop by pressing "shift del" but instead it deleted all my file in the real directory !!!!
[22:47] <frenchy> god someone help me, how can i recover those files ?
[22:47] <Torch> do i report bugs with kde 4.3 rc1 in launchpad like any other bugs?
[22:51] <ign0ramus> frenchy, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/recover-deleted-files-with-foremostscalpel-in-ubuntu.html
[22:54] <ign0ramus> frenchy, also, if you're using KDE 4's "Folder View" on your Desktop (Plasma Dashboard), you should know that this is your actual directory, not just shortcuts or symlinks
[22:55] <frenchy> ign0ramus: no mate i created that link the real dir was in /home/username/mydir
[22:55] <frenchy> i think it is a major bug in the kde release
[22:56] <ign0ramus> frenchy, what version are you using?
[22:56] <SSJ_GZ> frenchy: How did you create the link?
[22:56] <frenchy> one sec guy's i am trying to get my data back and i will be with u
[23:00] <frenchy> is it possible to recover something on the disk without creating a full image of my disk ??? i don't have enough storage space to create an image.
[23:02] <ign0ramus> frenchy, did you read the link I posted for you?
[23:03] <frenchy> ign0ramus: yeah i am having a look now ( sorry i am a slow reader)
[23:07] <robin0800> t
[23:08] <yoni> hi
[23:14] <frenchy> damn, it appears that foremost is not able to recover any file, iso files can't be recovered ...
[23:17] <ign0ramus> awesome.  plasma crashes, i let it collect data to send a bugreport, and as i click 'send', it crashes X entirely :/
[23:19] <chuckenkopf> hallo
[23:19] <chuckenkopf> yeah it works
[23:19] <chuckenkopf> great
[23:20] <frenchy> ign0ramus: it appears that iso file can't be recovered with foremost
[23:21] <ign0ramus> frenchy, oh... it was an .iso that you deleted?
[23:21] <frenchy> yup
[23:22] <frenchy> why ?? is it a problem ?
[23:23] <chuckey> does it work
[23:23] <chuckey> ???
[23:23] <chuckey> i think so
[23:24] <ign0ramus> frenchy, many of these recovery programs are designed to scrape for pictures and documents... not disc images :(
[23:24] <ign0ramus> frenchy, if you are allowed to say, what was the .iso?
[23:26] <chuckey> ss
[23:26] <chuckey> oh i must read some more informations
[23:26] <PapaChub> Does anybody know how to make my NFS server support "map_static" ?
[23:27] <PapaChub> nfs-kernel-server complains about "unknown keyword" and unfsd just says "syntax error" :-(
[23:30] <frenchy> ign0ramus: abit of everithing, .doc .dll database but they where arranged by date so it will be irrelevant if i recover only file names
[23:38] <chaplin> ciao c-[ qualcuno che parla italiano_
[23:41] <denford> can anyone tell me how to make a virtual box win machine save files to my web folder as www-data user and group?
[23:44] <denford> anybody?
[23:44] <Adola> Hey, is there a Kubuntu version of Ubuntu Netbook Remix?
[23:44] <Adola> I want KDE on my netbook, not gnome...
[23:52] <frenchy> ok i discover a massive bug in Kde plasma
[23:53] <frenchy> i think it it because of the jaunty upgrade
[23:56] <frenchy> if you try to delete a folder link by pressing del+shift on he desktop folder widget it will delete the actual folder
[23:57] <ign0ramus> frenchy, what version of kde are you running?
[23:57] <ign0ramus> frenchy, i have 4.3RC 1 and i tried doing just that, based on your complaint.  the original folder remained intact.
[23:58] <frenchy> ign0ramus: i think it is because when my mouse is on the folder there is an other widget which appear and show the folder content