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SiDihttp://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8243/capture2a.png00:16
SiDiknome: i wish that was possible :/00:16
knomewhat?00:17
SiDiknome: the menubar00:17
knomeSiDi, isn't it? :P00:19
SiDiknome: ? :O00:19
knomemeh00:21
SiDii dont think it can be done for now00:27
SiDiwould need some :first and :last for the GtkMenuBarItem's00:27
knomeright.00:32
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zniavrehello / bonjour09:53
zniavrethere is a tool to test/try metacity theme as twf or gtkperf ?09:54
macvrthorwil: hi... Is the second folder version not correct either? or is it better than first?14:39
thorwilmacvr: eh, on submissions or discuss?14:40
macvrsubmissions & discussion are both same , discussions is just a link from deviant art14:41
macvrthorwil: Cory had said it was too square , so made it a rectangle14:42
thorwilthis? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=folder.png14:42
macvryup14:43
thorwilmacvr: proportions are better14:43
macvr:)14:43
thorwilmacvr: i think you are wasting your time continuing with the folder14:44
macvrthorwil: na... this is my last try...14:44
macvrthorwil: i just felt that Andrew's folder was too much of a rip-off of the oxygen theme hence i tried this , in smaller sizes it almost looks like the orange oxygen-refit . ... if he doesnt accept i'll just add it as a breathe-refit to deviant art/gnome-look ;p14:46
SiDithen why not keep the first one ? *hides*14:46
macvrSiDi: that is a better option :)14:47
macvrSiDi: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/ufolder.svg14:52
SiDithats a nice 40414:54
macvrSiDi: oops > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/folder.png14:54
macvrruslanr: how did you send it as a channel notice!15:06
macvrman i got to know more irc commands:(15:06
SiDimacvr: epicfailed15:07
SiDihe actually pm'd you15:07
SiDiand you said "hey man you pm'd me"15:07
macvrSiDi: : he didnt pm me!15:07
knome...15:09
macvrthorwil: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/folder%20%28copy%29.png , your thoughts on this folder , not for breathe , but in general16:13
SiDi_there is a perspective problem macvr16:15
SiDi_i find the right side a bit too long16:15
macvrSiDi_: its not mine... :)16:15
SiDi_and the little thing in the bottom right dosnt have a good perspective16:15
macvrbut just wanted thorwil's views16:15
SiDi_ok, tell it that you dont care about me :(16:17
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macvrSiDi: something is wrong with it , its just that thorwil points things out exactly...16:18
macvrSiDi: nothing against your or your views ;p16:18
macvrSiDi: i care about mice... :)16:19
macvrSiDi: btw how is the progress about using your wallpaper as the default for xubuntu9.10 ?16:21
SiDimacvr: err, there is little chance16:21
SiDiwe care about having users, you see16:21
macvrSiDi: knome has given you full support , so there might be a chance ;p16:22
SiDimacvr: im actually working on a theme :p16:22
SiDibut not for xubuntu16:22
macvrSiDi:  that blue is too loud16:22
macvrSiDi: you might wan to reduce the saturation or something16:23
SiDimacvr: its damn volunteer :]16:23
macvr;p16:23
SiDihttp://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3808/capture2z.png macvr16:25
SiDionly the panel will be changed16:25
SiDicurrently on it16:25
SiDimacvr: i really don't see where there is too much blue *hides*16:27
macvrSiDi: i like the color of the progress bars , But the title bar and menu bar are too bright/loud16:27
SiDiits chromium's colours16:28
SiDiguess the name of the theme :D16:28
macvrSiDi: maybe using the inactive window colors > http://www.google.com/chrome , thats much better16:30
SiDithe linux version has only one color for now16:31
SiDibut if they do it i'll change my xfwm for inactive windows ^.^16:31
macvr;p16:31
thorwilmacvr: shadow is a joke, the gloss is cheap, the perspective not quite right16:51
macvrthorwil: gloss! i was wondering how the hell it made sense!16:52
macvrthanx16:52
thorwillol16:52
macvri was wondering if you might find a way to explain it :) ,\o/16:53
macvrbut it really makes no sense!16:53
thorwilmacvr: oh, and listen to SiDi and be more careful with his feelings!16:54
macvrthorwil: sure... i'll feed the mice more cheese16:55
SiDithorwil: lol.. :)16:58
macvrSiDi: actually that line got cut it was supposed to be a single line  , but reading it separately, it sounds rude :( , its just that i dont type that fast...17:08
SiDidoes anyone who does gtk theming know about red lines appearing in FF's toolbar ?17:56
SiDii cant find out where they come from17:56
psyke83hi19:39
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thorwilflickr always renames files, right?20:36
dashuahey psyke8320:42
psyke83hey20:55
dashuaHow's Humanity coming along?21:00
dashuaI saw some talk from artir i.e. to new theming framework for Karmic, but have not yet heard anything official.21:00
dashuaOn the forums21:00
SiDidashua: hello21:06
SiDiwhats up ?21:06
dashuaHeya SiDi21:06
dashuaNot much21:06
dashuaReveling in my new theme with Breathe.  It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside.21:07
SiDiwow, so much ?21:08
SiDidashua: i finished my first gtk theme today :)21:08
dashuaI saw.  It looks good.21:08
dashuaBUT21:08
dashuaIt's blue =/21:08
artirdashua: you can ask kwwii :)21:08
dashuaartir: Oh nice.21:09
SiDidashua: yeh, its blue :D21:10
dashuaHehe21:10
SiDii might do a green version with less aggressive colours21:10
SiDibut im not good with brown21:10
dashuaGreen would be nice21:10
dashuaI'm not having much luck here with gnome-shell.  It doesn't want to run for me.21:11
SiDii never tried it:)21:11
dashuaI just wanted to test it out.21:11
psyke83dashua: I sent the updates to Ken, not sure if the updates are getting included or not21:11
SiDii didnt use gnome since intrepid actually :s21:11
dashua=/21:11
dashuaHumanity is a nice improvement from Human (Human-Murrine)21:12
SiDiwell, im having low bandwidth most of the time now21:12
SiDiso i didnt update my desktop since december21:12
dashuaI'm having some issue now as well.  Verizon is not working well for me.21:12
SiDigot a link to it, dashua ? :)21:12
SiDiverizon restricts bandwidth for bittorrent users now, doesnt it ?21:12
dashuaMy phone is crackling and constant disconnecting21:13
dashuaThe PPA?21:13
SiDia link to it so  i can see it:D21:13
dashuaGnome-shell?21:13
SiDino, humanity21:14
dashuaOh, it's on the forums21:14
dashuaOne sec21:14
psyke83http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116898421:15
dashuahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168984&highlight=humanity21:15
psyke83snap :P21:15
dashuaHehe21:15
psyke83I think you need to be logged in even to see the previews21:15
dashuapsyke83: Did you see the theme I posted on the wiki?21:16
dashuaAny suggestions?21:16
SiDii cant even see the difference with human :p21:18
SiDibut im too lazy to download it :(21:18
dashuaSiDi: Why are going to the dark with Blue? ;p21:19
SiDidashua: cause im on xubuntu ;[21:19
knomelol21:19
dashuaChrome does look pretty sweet on Vista/Windows 721:19
knomewe are not tied to blue and dark21:19
dashuaThe Xubuntu default background is actually quite nice21:20
dashuaBut it is blue.21:20
SiDiknome: by dark he meant evil :(21:20
knomehah21:21
knomedashua, it can be easily converted to eg. pink as it's svg21:21
dashuaOh dark side*21:21
dashuaMissed a word21:21
SiDiknome: a pink mouse ? :D21:21
knomewell some people prefer pink to blue21:21
dashuaSiDi: How does this render for you?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human-Redux21:22
dashuaShould the menu_item be darker?21:23
macvrdashua: i suggested SiDi, to maybe using the inactive window colors > http://www.google.com/chrome , thats much better , but he just loves the blue ;p21:23
SiDidashua: no :p21:24
psyke83dashua: Human-Redux, you mean?21:24
SiDidashua: but i think you could make the menu background (not menubar) a bit lighter21:24
SiDijust a little21:24
dashuaThat actually looks good.  Aero makes it look even better.21:24
dashuaSiDi: Yeah, Redux21:24
dashuaOk21:24
SiDii like the selected_bg color21:24
SiDiand the progress bars21:24
SiDibut the contrast on the progress bar is a bit big compared to the one on the scrollbars21:25
dashuaYeah, nodoka does those pretty sweet21:25
dashuaScale too21:25
SiDidid you try adding a bit of orange to the toggled buttons ? :)21:25
dashuaI may change that over to nodoka as well21:25
dashuaYes21:25
dashuaThe prelights on most are orange21:25
SiDimacvr: its not about loving or not. it's the awesomish color of chromium's menubar21:25
dashuasalmon21:25
macvrSiDi: ;p awesome gives me an eyesore ;p21:26
SiDihttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=108046&file1=108046-1.jpg&file2=108046-2.png&file3=&name=Chromium+GTK+%2B+XFWM macvr21:26
dashuaSiDi: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/17991/screenshot_007_Ffl62Z.png21:27
dashuaThis scale is much better than murrine21:27
SiDidashua: did you ever experience some red toolbar separators / red line in the tabs widget in firefox while theming ?21:27
psyke83dashua: it's nice... I would lighten the gradient on the toolbar, make sure the selected_bg_color is consistent (it seems the checkbox, progressbar and scrollbars are all different), and I'm not personally a fan of the nodoka-style tabs (with the colour gradient on the tab), but that's just personal preference of course ;)21:27
SiDidashua: ouch, sexy scale indeed21:27
dashuaOn entry yeah21:27
dashuaI thought that was a firefox bug21:27
SiDidashua: how did you fix it ? :O21:27
dashuapsyke83: Thx21:28
dashuaSiDi: Mozilla was supposed to fix it.  What version of FF?21:28
dashua3.5 was supposed to fix that21:28
dashuaIt was offset21:28
psyke83it reminds me of the newhuman-light I was working on before: http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/NewHuman-Light.png21:29
SiDi3.521:29
SiDiso many human forks ^.^21:29
macvrpsyke83: why does the highlight have a dark line underneath?21:29
dashuapsyke83: That's funny.  I forked it off of my Hanso theme and originally called Redux Hanso-Light21:30
psyke83macvr: where are you seeing that?21:30
macvrpsyke83: below the orange highlight.. the 1px black line21:30
psyke83macvr: on the newhuman-light or humanity theme?21:31
SiDibtw if anyone wanna make a metacity theme for my gtk theme let me knowXD21:31
macvrpsyke83: new human light21:31
macvris there a way to remove it , I havent figured it out :(21:32
psyke83I don't see any dark line, what widget are you seeing it in the widget factory, for example?21:33
macvrpsyke83: the shot you posted > http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/NewHuman-Light.png , just immediately below the title bar orange highlight 1px black line which fades to the outer on either side21:34
psyke83macvr: on the metacity decoration, directly above the window title "The Widget Factor"? I'm on a CRT monitor, so it may be more difficult for me to see what you're talking about21:35
psyke83*Factory21:36
macvrpsyke83: yes, exactly21:36
psyke83that's using the same metacity decoration as DarkRoom (it was called NewHuman at the time I was working on this particular theme), so it's probably defined in the metacity xml somewhere21:38
macvrpsyke83: that line from dark room , i never did figure it out.. in the end gave up..21:38
macvryes21:38
psyke83one sec21:38
psyke83macvr: line 229 of the metacity xml21:47
* macvr checking21:47
psyke83it's bg[SELECTED]/.5 (can't quote exactly, one different pc)21:47
psyke83*on21:47
macvrpsyke83: ah.... thank you...21:49
psyke83no problem21:50
macvri was searching for that line and had given up experimenting, since whenever i change my theme my firefox crashes :(21:50
psyke83macvr: create a custom application launcher shortcut for "metacity --replace", that's how I test metacity theme changes quickly21:54
psyke83you should disable compiz, though21:54
macvrcompiz is why i didnt create the launcher :(21:55
macvrbut I'm a small themer , unlike you :)21:55
psyke83you could try gtk-window-decorator --replace, never tried it, though21:55
psyke83I'm not experienced with theming either ;)21:55
macvr^ ah , should try gtk21:56
macvrpsyke83: ah... looks better without that line :)  I had been itching to remove it for a long time !21:58
dashua_I apologize for my connectivity.  I'm about to chew some ass.22:26
knomeass?!22:26
macvr^hehe i read it as "chew some GRass"22:26
dashua_Ha22:27
knomei don't know which one is worse.. ;)22:27
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