[00:16] http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8243/capture2a.png [00:16] knome: i wish that was possible :/ [00:17] what? [00:17] knome: the menubar [00:19] SiDi, isn't it? :P [00:19] knome: ? :O [00:21] meh [00:27] i dont think it can be done for now [00:27] would need some :first and :last for the GtkMenuBarItem's [00:32] right. === _MMA_ is now known as ckontros [09:53] hello / bonjour [09:54] there is a tool to test/try metacity theme as twf or gtkperf ? [14:39] thorwil: hi... Is the second folder version not correct either? or is it better than first? [14:40] macvr: eh, on submissions or discuss? [14:41] submissions & discussion are both same , discussions is just a link from deviant art [14:42] thorwil: Cory had said it was too square , so made it a rectangle [14:42] this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=folder.png [14:43] yup [14:43] macvr: proportions are better [14:43] :) [14:44] macvr: i think you are wasting your time continuing with the folder [14:44] thorwil: na... this is my last try... [14:46] thorwil: i just felt that Andrew's folder was too much of a rip-off of the oxygen theme hence i tried this , in smaller sizes it almost looks like the orange oxygen-refit . ... if he doesnt accept i'll just add it as a breathe-refit to deviant art/gnome-look ;p [14:46] then why not keep the first one ? *hides* [14:47] SiDi: that is a better option :) [14:52] SiDi: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/ufolder.svg [14:54] thats a nice 404 [14:54] SiDi: oops > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/folder.png [15:06] ruslanr: how did you send it as a channel notice! [15:06] man i got to know more irc commands:( [15:07] macvr: epicfailed [15:07] he actually pm'd you [15:07] and you said "hey man you pm'd me" [15:07] SiDi: : he didnt pm me! [15:09] ... [16:13] thorwil: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/folder%20%28copy%29.png , your thoughts on this folder , not for breathe , but in general [16:15] there is a perspective problem macvr [16:15] i find the right side a bit too long [16:15] SiDi_: its not mine... :) [16:15] and the little thing in the bottom right dosnt have a good perspective [16:15] but just wanted thorwil's views [16:17] ok, tell it that you dont care about me :( === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi [16:18] SiDi: something is wrong with it , its just that thorwil points things out exactly... [16:18] SiDi: nothing against your or your views ;p [16:19] SiDi: i care about mice... :) [16:21] SiDi: btw how is the progress about using your wallpaper as the default for xubuntu9.10 ? [16:21] macvr: err, there is little chance [16:21] we care about having users, you see [16:22] SiDi: knome has given you full support , so there might be a chance ;p [16:22] macvr: im actually working on a theme :p [16:22] but not for xubuntu [16:22] SiDi: that blue is too loud [16:23] SiDi: you might wan to reduce the saturation or something [16:23] macvr: its damn volunteer :] [16:23] ;p [16:25] http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3808/capture2z.png macvr [16:25] only the panel will be changed [16:25] currently on it [16:27] macvr: i really don't see where there is too much blue *hides* [16:27] SiDi: i like the color of the progress bars , But the title bar and menu bar are too bright/loud [16:28] its chromium's colours [16:28] guess the name of the theme :D [16:30] SiDi: maybe using the inactive window colors > http://www.google.com/chrome , thats much better [16:31] the linux version has only one color for now [16:31] but if they do it i'll change my xfwm for inactive windows ^.^ [16:31] ;p [16:51] macvr: shadow is a joke, the gloss is cheap, the perspective not quite right [16:52] thorwil: gloss! i was wondering how the hell it made sense! [16:52] thanx [16:52] lol [16:53] i was wondering if you might find a way to explain it :) ,\o/ [16:53] but it really makes no sense! [16:54] macvr: oh, and listen to SiDi and be more careful with his feelings! [16:55] thorwil: sure... i'll feed the mice more cheese [16:58] thorwil: lol.. :) [17:08] SiDi: actually that line got cut it was supposed to be a single line , but reading it separately, it sounds rude :( , its just that i dont type that fast... [17:56] does anyone who does gtk theming know about red lines appearing in FF's toolbar ? [17:56] i cant find out where they come from [19:39] hi === andreasn__ is now known as andreasn [20:36] flickr always renames files, right? [20:42] hey psyke83 [20:55] hey [21:00] How's Humanity coming along? [21:00] I saw some talk from artir i.e. to new theming framework for Karmic, but have not yet heard anything official. [21:00] On the forums [21:06] dashua: hello [21:06] whats up ? [21:06] Heya SiDi [21:06] Not much [21:07] Reveling in my new theme with Breathe. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside. [21:08] wow, so much ? [21:08] dashua: i finished my first gtk theme today :) [21:08] I saw. It looks good. [21:08] BUT [21:08] It's blue =/ [21:08] dashua: you can ask kwwii :) [21:09] artir: Oh nice. [21:10] dashua: yeh, its blue :D [21:10] Hehe [21:10] i might do a green version with less aggressive colours [21:10] but im not good with brown [21:10] Green would be nice [21:11] I'm not having much luck here with gnome-shell. It doesn't want to run for me. [21:11] i never tried it:) [21:11] I just wanted to test it out. [21:11] dashua: I sent the updates to Ken, not sure if the updates are getting included or not [21:11] i didnt use gnome since intrepid actually :s [21:11] =/ [21:12] Humanity is a nice improvement from Human (Human-Murrine) [21:12] well, im having low bandwidth most of the time now [21:12] so i didnt update my desktop since december [21:12] I'm having some issue now as well. Verizon is not working well for me. [21:12] got a link to it, dashua ? :) [21:12] verizon restricts bandwidth for bittorrent users now, doesnt it ? [21:13] My phone is crackling and constant disconnecting [21:13] The PPA? [21:13] a link to it so i can see it:D [21:13] Gnome-shell? [21:14] no, humanity [21:14] Oh, it's on the forums [21:14] One sec [21:15] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168984 [21:15] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1168984&highlight=humanity [21:15] snap :P [21:15] Hehe [21:15] I think you need to be logged in even to see the previews [21:16] psyke83: Did you see the theme I posted on the wiki? [21:16] Any suggestions? [21:18] i cant even see the difference with human :p [21:18] but im too lazy to download it :( [21:19] SiDi: Why are going to the dark with Blue? ;p [21:19] dashua: cause im on xubuntu ;[ [21:19] lol [21:19] Chrome does look pretty sweet on Vista/Windows 7 [21:19] we are not tied to blue and dark [21:20] The Xubuntu default background is actually quite nice [21:20] But it is blue. [21:20] knome: by dark he meant evil :( [21:21] hah [21:21] dashua, it can be easily converted to eg. pink as it's svg [21:21] Oh dark side* [21:21] Missed a word [21:21] knome: a pink mouse ? :D [21:21] well some people prefer pink to blue [21:22] SiDi: How does this render for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Human-Redux [21:23] Should the menu_item be darker? [21:23] dashua: i suggested SiDi, to maybe using the inactive window colors > http://www.google.com/chrome , thats much better , but he just loves the blue ;p [21:24] dashua: no :p [21:24] dashua: Human-Redux, you mean? [21:24] dashua: but i think you could make the menu background (not menubar) a bit lighter [21:24] just a little [21:24] That actually looks good. Aero makes it look even better. [21:24] SiDi: Yeah, Redux [21:24] Ok [21:24] i like the selected_bg color [21:24] and the progress bars [21:25] but the contrast on the progress bar is a bit big compared to the one on the scrollbars [21:25] Yeah, nodoka does those pretty sweet [21:25] Scale too [21:25] did you try adding a bit of orange to the toggled buttons ? :) [21:25] I may change that over to nodoka as well [21:25] Yes [21:25] The prelights on most are orange [21:25] macvr: its not about loving or not. it's the awesomish color of chromium's menubar [21:25] salmon [21:26] SiDi: ;p awesome gives me an eyesore ;p [21:26] http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=108046&file1=108046-1.jpg&file2=108046-2.png&file3=&name=Chromium+GTK+%2B+XFWM macvr [21:27] SiDi: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/17991/screenshot_007_Ffl62Z.png [21:27] This scale is much better than murrine [21:27] dashua: did you ever experience some red toolbar separators / red line in the tabs widget in firefox while theming ? [21:27] dashua: it's nice... I would lighten the gradient on the toolbar, make sure the selected_bg_color is consistent (it seems the checkbox, progressbar and scrollbars are all different), and I'm not personally a fan of the nodoka-style tabs (with the colour gradient on the tab), but that's just personal preference of course ;) [21:27] dashua: ouch, sexy scale indeed [21:27] On entry yeah [21:27] I thought that was a firefox bug [21:27] dashua: how did you fix it ? :O [21:28] psyke83: Thx [21:28] SiDi: Mozilla was supposed to fix it. What version of FF? [21:28] 3.5 was supposed to fix that [21:28] It was offset [21:29] it reminds me of the newhuman-light I was working on before: http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/NewHuman-Light.png [21:29] 3.5 [21:29] so many human forks ^.^ [21:29] psyke83: why does the highlight have a dark line underneath? [21:30] psyke83: That's funny. I forked it off of my Hanso theme and originally called Redux Hanso-Light [21:30] macvr: where are you seeing that? [21:30] psyke83: below the orange highlight.. the 1px black line [21:31] macvr: on the newhuman-light or humanity theme? [21:31] btw if anyone wanna make a metacity theme for my gtk theme let me knowXD [21:31] psyke83: new human light [21:32] is there a way to remove it , I havent figured it out :( [21:33] I don't see any dark line, what widget are you seeing it in the widget factory, for example? [21:34] psyke83: the shot you posted > http://connogriofa.googlepages.com/NewHuman-Light.png , just immediately below the title bar orange highlight 1px black line which fades to the outer on either side [21:35] macvr: on the metacity decoration, directly above the window title "The Widget Factor"? I'm on a CRT monitor, so it may be more difficult for me to see what you're talking about [21:36] *Factory [21:36] psyke83: yes, exactly [21:38] that's using the same metacity decoration as DarkRoom (it was called NewHuman at the time I was working on this particular theme), so it's probably defined in the metacity xml somewhere [21:38] psyke83: that line from dark room , i never did figure it out.. in the end gave up.. [21:38] yes [21:38] one sec [21:47] macvr: line 229 of the metacity xml [21:47] * macvr checking [21:47] it's bg[SELECTED]/.5 (can't quote exactly, one different pc) [21:47] *on [21:49] psyke83: ah.... thank you... [21:50] no problem [21:50] i was searching for that line and had given up experimenting, since whenever i change my theme my firefox crashes :( [21:54] macvr: create a custom application launcher shortcut for "metacity --replace", that's how I test metacity theme changes quickly [21:54] you should disable compiz, though [21:55] compiz is why i didnt create the launcher :( [21:55] but I'm a small themer , unlike you :) [21:55] you could try gtk-window-decorator --replace, never tried it, though [21:55] I'm not experienced with theming either ;) [21:56] ^ ah , should try gtk [21:58] psyke83: ah... looks better without that line :) I had been itching to remove it for a long time ! [22:26] I apologize for my connectivity. I'm about to chew some ass. [22:26] ass?! [22:26] ^hehe i read it as "chew some GRass" [22:27] Ha [22:27] i don't know which one is worse.. ;) === dashua_ is now known as dashua === _MMA_ is now known as ckontros