| === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 07:15 |
|---|---|---|
| ajmitch | morning pitti | 07:21 |
| TheMuso | Hey pitti. | 07:25 |
| pitti | hey guys! had a nice weekend? | 07:32 |
| TheMuso | Yes thanks. | 07:33 |
| pitti | dobey: can you please fix your upstream ubunutone-client bzr/tarballs license-wise and do a new upload to REVU (or just point me to the source package)? | 07:36 |
| crevette | heya | 09:57 |
| crevette | hello pitti | 10:01 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| * crevette looked at GDM upstream bugs list and cried | 10:02 | |
| crevette | 55 patches unreviewed | 10:03 |
| huats | morning | 10:33 |
| seb128_ | hey there | 10:34 |
| seb128_ | GUADEC internet is not so good | 10:34 |
| crevette | hello seb128 | 10:35 |
| * asac has focus issues in karmic | 11:18 | |
| asac | seb128_: hi. hope you enjoy the conference (and the beach ;)) | 11:19 |
| asac | seb128_: wonder if we should file a bug about apt-get upgrade resetting/crashing X - or is that even fixed? | 11:19 |
| Keybuk | pitti: I have the *best* gdm bug EVAH | 11:43 |
| Keybuk | it logs me out after 5-10 minutes ;) | 11:43 |
| pochu | that's the new typing-break from gnome-keyboard-properties :-) | 11:45 |
| crevette | Keybuk, me too | 12:02 |
| crevette | could you look on TT1 if you have weird caracters on the console? | 12:03 |
| Keybuk | yes | 12:03 |
| crevette | Keybuk, are you logged you or the session has crashed? | 12:04 |
| Keybuk | crevette: ? | 12:06 |
| crevette | Keybuk, are you only logged off or the session has crashed? | 12:09 |
| Keybuk | crevette: what's the difference? | 12:10 |
| Keybuk | it looks like a crash to me because I get bailed to the console | 12:10 |
| crevette | when you logged off, you can connect to your existing session (with you applications running ), when it has crashed, a new session is created | 12:11 |
| Keybuk | there are no apps running as my user | 12:12 |
| crevette | okay so I think we have the same problem, for me I can stay more than 5 minutes, it seesm it happened when I open a web browser and type some text in the url bar | 12:12 |
| Keybuk | once it's happened once, it doesn't happen again | 12:12 |
| geser | Keybuk: welcome to bug 395595 | 12:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395595 in gdm "gdm 2.26.1-0ubuntu2: Random logouts" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395595 | 12:15 |
| crevette | thanks geser | 12:16 |
| geser | asac: the upgrade problem is already filed as bug 395313 | 12:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395313 in gdm "gdm 2.26 kills or switches away from active X sessions on upgrading" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395313 | 12:17 |
| asac | geser: thanks | 12:25 |
| pitti | geser, Keybuk: I'm currently tackling bug 395313 | 12:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395313 in gdm "gdm 2.26 kills or switches away from active X sessions on upgrading" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395313 | 12:46 |
| pitti | but I didn't see 395595 | 12:46 |
| asac | thats low prio? | 12:59 |
| pitti | asac: I'll fix the "always restarts gdm/kills session on upgrade" bug | 13:00 |
| pitti | I also have a handle on bug 395595 I think | 13:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 395595 in gdm "gdm 2.26.1-0ubuntu2: Random logouts" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395595 | 13:00 |
| asac | great | 13:00 |
| pitti | give me an hour or two, I'm on gdm bug fixing rave :) | 13:01 |
| asac | rock on. | 13:01 |
| asac | i already wondered how to start debugging this ;) | 13:01 |
| mvo | they ArneGoetje - would you mind if I convert language-selector from glade to gtkbuilder? you will probably not notice anything, its just a exchange of the object that wraps it (SimpleGtkbuilder instead of SmpleGladeApp) and adding a .ui file that is done with glade-3 ? | 13:06 |
| TheMuso | mvo: How much work/what is the process to change an app from glade to GTK builder? | 13:08 |
| TheMuso | Is it documented anywhere? | 13:08 |
| pochu | TheMuso: have a look at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/RemoveLibGladeUseGtkBuilder | 13:09 |
| TheMuso | pochu: Thanks | 13:09 |
| mvo | TheMuso: its pretty painless in my experience | 13:14 |
| mvo | TheMuso: most of my stuff uses a small wrapper called SimpleGladeApp and I ported that to gtkbuilder. so it mostly .glade->.ui and exchanging that file :) | 13:14 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 13:14 |
| pitti | mvo: current gdm's prerm file is really bad | 13:39 |
| pitti | mvo: I fixed init script handling in gdm 0ubuntu3 | 13:39 |
| pitti | is there a way for 0ubuntu3 to say "don't call 0ubuntu2's prerm on upgrade"? | 13:40 |
| pitti | since that will kill gdm install and your X session, leaving you with a broken gdm | 13:40 |
| mvo | pitti: uh, that is tricky, the old-prerm is called first, so if that kills X ... | 13:42 |
| pitti | mvo: ah, so no chance to do something in preinst? | 13:42 |
| pitti | ok, then we have to live with that, I guess | 13:42 |
| pitti | the next dist-upgrade will screw your system, and then you need to reinstall gdm | 13:43 |
| mvo | my initial thought was to rm the old-prerm in the preinst, but I don't think it will work | 13:43 |
| pitti | I'll write to u-d-a@ then | 13:43 |
| pitti | mvo: I only need to disable invoke-rc.d, so I wouldn't even need to rm | 13:43 |
| mvo | its the invoke-rc.d gdm stop that kills it? | 13:44 |
| mvo | we could hack invoke-rc.d so that it has a check for gdm stop, but that would be a heavy hammer | 13:44 |
| geser | pitti: looking at http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/MaintainerScripts there seems to be no way to do something before the old prerm gets executed | 13:45 |
| pitti | ok, thanks guys | 13:45 |
| mvo | aptdaemon will make it all better, a crashing frontend will not affect the install (or at least it should not) | 13:46 |
| dobey | pitti, Riddell: is there any sane reason why I can't do "blah blah blah, here is the full text of the license: " with CC-By-SA while I can with GPL? | 14:30 |
| pitti | dobey: I thought the problem was that the orig.tar.gz doesn't ship a copy of the CC license? | 14:31 |
| pitti | or was it in debian/copyright? | 14:31 |
| dobey | COPYING.icons | 14:31 |
| pitti | perhaps he just overlooked that | 14:31 |
| dobey | pitti: Riddell was saying i needed the full text in debian/copyright | 14:31 |
| pitti | ah, because we don't ship CC in /usr/share/common-licenses | 14:32 |
| pitti | for GPL, BSD, etc. we do, thus a reference to those is enough | 14:32 |
| dobey | pitti: should i put the COPYING.icons in debian/docs then? | 14:32 |
| pitti | no, the license into debian/copyright | 14:32 |
| pitti | (verbatim) | 14:32 |
| dobey | sigh | 14:32 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: hi ... I suppose we may was well cancel the team meeting for tomorrow ... thoughts/ | 14:38 |
| dobey | E: ubuntuone-client source: not-binnmuable-any-depends-any ubuntuone-client-gnome -> ubuntuone-client | 14:55 |
| dobey | pitti: what does that even mean? | 14:55 |
| crevette | http://lintian.debian.org/tags/not-binnmuable-any-depends-any.html | 14:55 |
| * crevette is a google bot | 14:56 | |
| pitti | dobey: you can ignore it, it doesn't apply for Ubuntu | 15:00 |
| pitti | dobey: technically, you should't use exact version dependencies for an arch:all pacakge to an arch:any pacakge | 15:00 |
| pitti | binNMUs are a Debianism only (right now anyway), so don't worry | 15:01 |
| Laney | lintian -i will give you a full description of what the errors mean too | 15:02 |
| Laney | dobey: ^ | 15:03 |
| dobey | pitti: it was because one of the packages was any but should have been all, it seems :) | 15:03 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: not sure, are there so many people on the summit? I thought about having one, even if it's short | 15:03 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: ok | 15:03 |
| pitti | dobey: even better, if they don't have arch dependent stuff | 15:03 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: how are you and how's DS? | 15:04 |
| dobey | pitti: nope, it's just python and config files | 15:04 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: you'll need to drive it though ... I have time to cancel it, but not organize it ;) | 15:04 |
| rickspencer3 | we are having fun, and learning, and meeting a lot of people | 15:04 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: of course, I planned to | 15:04 |
| rickspencer3 | and no one is sunburned ;) | 15:04 |
| * pitti uploads a "fix me harder" gdm | 15:05 | |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: fyi - I'm going to be out the rest of this week | 15:06 |
| rickspencer3 | I'm gong through and deleting meetings | 15:06 |
| pitti | :) | 15:06 |
| dobey | pitti, Riddell: just uploaded new ubuntuone-client with those fixes to REVU | 15:09 |
| === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter | ||
| pitti | dobey: cool | 15:19 |
| asac | pitti: last ffox 3.5 proposed bug was now verified: 331654 | 15:31 |
| pitti | asac, bryce, ArneGoetje, ccheney: fancy having a meeting tomorrow or shall we just skip it? (half of the team is on the desktop summit) | 15:32 |
| asac | either way is fine for me | 15:35 |
| ccheney | pitti: i'm off tomorrow | 15:59 |
| pitti | ok, sounds like we should just skip it | 15:59 |
| ccheney | pitti: or at least i requested off rickspencer3 hasn't approved it yet | 15:59 |
| pitti | and discuss stuff by mail | 15:59 |
| * ccheney thinks he is probably pretty busy in gran canaria | 16:00 | |
| pitti | ccheney: right, should be fine to retroactively approve it later :) | 16:00 |
| rickspencer3 | ccheney: i ok'ed it, but notice it didn't go through | 16:00 |
| rickspencer3 | no worries | 16:00 |
| ccheney | rickspencer3: ok | 16:00 |
| pitti | dobey: u1-client uploaded, thanks for fixing | 16:01 |
| rickspencer3 | yeah! | 16:01 |
| pitti | asac: marked as v-done | 16:02 |
| pitti | asac: so this should go to jaunty-security or -updates? | 16:03 |
| asac | pitti: to -security and then to -updates i guess (as we usually do for -security) | 16:03 |
| asac | thx | 16:04 |
| pitti | ok, I guess the security team needs to do that then, for USN and all? | 16:05 |
| dobey | pitti: thanks for all the help :) | 16:05 |
| pitti | dobey: thanks for bearing with us :) | 16:06 |
| asac | pitti: its universe, so there is no USN | 16:08 |
| asac | but i will poke jdstrand | 16:08 |
| pitti | ah, ok | 16:08 |
| asac | pitti: i think he wants your ack | 16:09 |
| asac | pitti: maybe he wanted to see this in -updates first and then copy it to -security ;) | 16:09 |
| asac | but let me check | 16:09 |
| pitti | asac: sent my ack, and let me know how he wants this to be handled | 16:09 |
| asac | yep | 16:09 |
| pitti | see #u-devel | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | hey pitti | 16:13 |
| pitti | hey kenvandine | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | so trying to package this stuff up created by quickly | 16:13 |
| pitti | kenvandine: empathy dependency trail never ends :( | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | it isn't including the python files :) | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | oh crap | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | geoclue was axed... what now? | 16:14 |
| pitti | kenvandine: which python files? | 16:14 |
| pitti | kenvandine: I updated the bug; butterfly | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | the ones in the python subdir | 16:14 |
| pitti | not sure wheter we want it | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | oh... pymsn? | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | we do... | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | imho | 16:14 |
| pitti | kenvandine: can you please file a bug against p-distutils-extra about it with a test case? | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | that is where the attention is | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | actually | 16:14 |
| kenvandine | maybe i am not up2date :) | 16:14 |
| pitti | kenvandine: does that subdir have an __init__.py? | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | doh! | 16:15 |
| pitti | (also, it sholdn't be called "python", but like the python package name) | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | i know | 16:15 |
| kenvandine | just explained that to rick | 16:15 |
| pitti | but python packages need an __init__.py | 16:15 |
| * kenvandine should have noticed | 16:16 | |
| pitti | python modules are currently searched only in the source root | 16:16 |
| pitti | if we want p-d-e to look for modules (not packages) in subdirs, we need to establish a convention | 16:16 |
| === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi | ||
| rickspencer3 | pitti: hey | 16:31 |
| rickspencer3 | what does this mean: | 16:32 |
| rickspencer3 | gtk ... [dpkg -S found more than one package: python-gtk2, python-apt, language-selector, apturl, software-properties-gtk; ignoring] [not found] | 16:32 |
| rickspencer3 | ? | 16:32 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: it means that it cannot figure out the dependency for the "gtk" python module | 16:32 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: I thought I fixed that in version 2.4? | 16:33 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: perhaps I need to update | 16:33 |
| === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| rickspencer3 | pitti: it looks like I'm running 2.4 | 16:35 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: did you install from karmic or build from my branch? | 16:38 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: your branch | 16:38 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: ok, sounds like a bug then; mind filing one with that output and the code you are building? | 16:39 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: n/p | 16:39 |
| rickspencer3 | asap, maybe tonight or tomorrow though | 16:39 |
| rickspencer3 | pitti: before I do that, I should install from your last known good | 16:40 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: you should have the current version | 16:40 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: doesn't really matter for now, it should work anyway | 16:41 |
| rickspencer3 | https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Epitti/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/663833/+listing-archive-extra | 16:41 |
| pitti | rickspencer3: assuming that you have python-gtk installed | 16:41 |
| robert_ancell | bryce, Is there any pending uploads for -ati drivers and the latest kernel? I'm getting "(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch." | 16:47 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: (hi!) out of curiosity, how did you find the renamed option in gnome-screensaver? | 17:52 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 18:06 |
| jbarnes | pitti: ping | 18:34 |
| jbarnes | pitti: just wondering if you can gdb your i915.o and do a "list *intel_update_watermarks+0xcf" | 18:35 |
| macvr | hi... does the desktop team/mailing list also involve in the usability issues of UNR? | 19:47 |
| === andreasn__ is now known as andreasn | ||
| macvr | ah...just now i was reminded about the mobile team! | 19:57 |
| chrisccoulson | hi didrocks | 20:17 |
| chrisccoulson | i just ran gnome-screensaver --debug and watched the console output. gnome-screensaver-dialog pipes its output back to gnome-screensaver, which made debugging a bit easier than i expected | 20:18 |
| chrisccoulson | when i volunteered to debug it, i was expecting to spend an entire weekend on it ;) | 20:18 |
| chrisccoulson | i was pleasantly surprised | 20:19 |
| === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| SiDi | pitti: hello. Do you know what happened to this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/329296 ? | 21:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 329296 in gnome-power-manager "Improve notifications" [Undecided,Fix released] | 21:14 |
| === dashua_ is now known as dashua | ||
| === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch | ||
| james_w | gdm calling ck-history --frequent isn't pretty IMO | 23:27 |
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