=== WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [07:15] Good morning [07:21] morning pitti [07:25] Hey pitti. [07:32] hey guys! had a nice weekend? [07:33] Yes thanks. [07:36] dobey: can you please fix your upstream ubunutone-client bzr/tarballs license-wise and do a new upload to REVU (or just point me to the source package)? [09:57] heya [10:01] hello pitti === asac_ is now known as asac [10:02] * crevette looked at GDM upstream bugs list and cried [10:03] 55 patches unreviewed [10:33] morning [10:34] hey there [10:34] GUADEC internet is not so good [10:35] hello seb128 [11:18] * asac has focus issues in karmic [11:19] seb128_: hi. hope you enjoy the conference (and the beach ;)) [11:19] seb128_: wonder if we should file a bug about apt-get upgrade resetting/crashing X - or is that even fixed? [11:43] pitti: I have the *best* gdm bug EVAH [11:43] it logs me out after 5-10 minutes ;) [11:45] that's the new typing-break from gnome-keyboard-properties :-) [12:02] Keybuk, me too [12:03] could you look on TT1 if you have weird caracters on the console? [12:03] yes [12:04] Keybuk, are you logged you or the session has crashed? [12:06] crevette: ? [12:09] Keybuk, are you only logged off or the session has crashed? [12:10] crevette: what's the difference? [12:10] it looks like a crash to me because I get bailed to the console [12:11] when you logged off, you can connect to your existing session (with you applications running ), when it has crashed, a new session is created [12:12] there are no apps running as my user [12:12] okay so I think we have the same problem, for me I can stay more than 5 minutes, it seesm it happened when I open a web browser and type some text in the url bar [12:12] once it's happened once, it doesn't happen again [12:15] Keybuk: welcome to bug 395595 [12:15] Launchpad bug 395595 in gdm "gdm 2.26.1-0ubuntu2: Random logouts" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395595 [12:16] thanks geser [12:17] asac: the upgrade problem is already filed as bug 395313 [12:17] Launchpad bug 395313 in gdm "gdm 2.26 kills or switches away from active X sessions on upgrading" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395313 [12:25] geser: thanks [12:46] geser, Keybuk: I'm currently tackling bug 395313 [12:46] Launchpad bug 395313 in gdm "gdm 2.26 kills or switches away from active X sessions on upgrading" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395313 [12:46] but I didn't see 395595 [12:59] thats low prio? [13:00] asac: I'll fix the "always restarts gdm/kills session on upgrade" bug [13:00] I also have a handle on bug 395595 I think [13:00] Launchpad bug 395595 in gdm "gdm 2.26.1-0ubuntu2: Random logouts" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395595 [13:00] great [13:01] give me an hour or two, I'm on gdm bug fixing rave :) [13:01] rock on. [13:01] i already wondered how to start debugging this ;) [13:06] they ArneGoetje - would you mind if I convert language-selector from glade to gtkbuilder? you will probably not notice anything, its just a exchange of the object that wraps it (SimpleGtkbuilder instead of SmpleGladeApp) and adding a .ui file that is done with glade-3 ? [13:08] mvo: How much work/what is the process to change an app from glade to GTK builder? [13:08] Is it documented anywhere? [13:09] TheMuso: have a look at http://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/RemoveLibGladeUseGtkBuilder [13:09] pochu: Thanks [13:14] TheMuso: its pretty painless in my experience [13:14] TheMuso: most of my stuff uses a small wrapper called SimpleGladeApp and I ported that to gtkbuilder. so it mostly .glade->.ui and exchanging that file :) [13:14] ah ok [13:39] mvo: current gdm's prerm file is really bad [13:39] mvo: I fixed init script handling in gdm 0ubuntu3 [13:40] is there a way for 0ubuntu3 to say "don't call 0ubuntu2's prerm on upgrade"? [13:40] since that will kill gdm install and your X session, leaving you with a broken gdm [13:42] pitti: uh, that is tricky, the old-prerm is called first, so if that kills X ... [13:42] mvo: ah, so no chance to do something in preinst? [13:42] ok, then we have to live with that, I guess [13:43] the next dist-upgrade will screw your system, and then you need to reinstall gdm [13:43] my initial thought was to rm the old-prerm in the preinst, but I don't think it will work [13:43] I'll write to u-d-a@ then [13:43] mvo: I only need to disable invoke-rc.d, so I wouldn't even need to rm [13:44] its the invoke-rc.d gdm stop that kills it? [13:44] we could hack invoke-rc.d so that it has a check for gdm stop, but that would be a heavy hammer [13:45] pitti: looking at http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/MaintainerScripts there seems to be no way to do something before the old prerm gets executed [13:45] ok, thanks guys [13:46] aptdaemon will make it all better, a crashing frontend will not affect the install (or at least it should not) [14:30] pitti, Riddell: is there any sane reason why I can't do "blah blah blah, here is the full text of the license: " with CC-By-SA while I can with GPL? [14:31] dobey: I thought the problem was that the orig.tar.gz doesn't ship a copy of the CC license? [14:31] or was it in debian/copyright? [14:31] COPYING.icons [14:31] perhaps he just overlooked that [14:31] pitti: Riddell was saying i needed the full text in debian/copyright [14:32] ah, because we don't ship CC in /usr/share/common-licenses [14:32] for GPL, BSD, etc. we do, thus a reference to those is enough [14:32] pitti: should i put the COPYING.icons in debian/docs then? [14:32] no, the license into debian/copyright [14:32] (verbatim) [14:32] sigh [14:38] pitti: hi ... I suppose we may was well cancel the team meeting for tomorrow ... thoughts/ [14:55] E: ubuntuone-client source: not-binnmuable-any-depends-any ubuntuone-client-gnome -> ubuntuone-client [14:55] pitti: what does that even mean? [14:55] http://lintian.debian.org/tags/not-binnmuable-any-depends-any.html [14:56] * crevette is a google bot [15:00] dobey: you can ignore it, it doesn't apply for Ubuntu [15:00] dobey: technically, you should't use exact version dependencies for an arch:all pacakge to an arch:any pacakge [15:01] binNMUs are a Debianism only (right now anyway), so don't worry [15:02] lintian -i will give you a full description of what the errors mean too [15:03] dobey: ^ [15:03] pitti: it was because one of the packages was any but should have been all, it seems :) [15:03] rickspencer3: not sure, are there so many people on the summit? I thought about having one, even if it's short [15:03] pitti: ok [15:03] dobey: even better, if they don't have arch dependent stuff [15:04] rickspencer3: how are you and how's DS? [15:04] pitti: nope, it's just python and config files [15:04] pitti: you'll need to drive it though ... I have time to cancel it, but not organize it ;) [15:04] we are having fun, and learning, and meeting a lot of people [15:04] rickspencer3: of course, I planned to [15:04] and no one is sunburned ;) [15:05] * pitti uploads a "fix me harder" gdm [15:06] pitti: fyi - I'm going to be out the rest of this week [15:06] I'm gong through and deleting meetings [15:06] :) [15:09] pitti, Riddell: just uploaded new ubuntuone-client with those fixes to REVU === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [15:19] dobey: cool [15:31] pitti: last ffox 3.5 proposed bug was now verified: 331654 [15:32] asac, bryce, ArneGoetje, ccheney: fancy having a meeting tomorrow or shall we just skip it? (half of the team is on the desktop summit) [15:35] either way is fine for me [15:59] pitti: i'm off tomorrow [15:59] ok, sounds like we should just skip it [15:59] pitti: or at least i requested off rickspencer3 hasn't approved it yet [15:59] and discuss stuff by mail [16:00] * ccheney thinks he is probably pretty busy in gran canaria [16:00] ccheney: right, should be fine to retroactively approve it later :) [16:00] ccheney: i ok'ed it, but notice it didn't go through [16:00] no worries [16:00] rickspencer3: ok [16:01] dobey: u1-client uploaded, thanks for fixing [16:01] yeah! [16:02] asac: marked as v-done [16:03] asac: so this should go to jaunty-security or -updates? [16:03] pitti: to -security and then to -updates i guess (as we usually do for -security) [16:04] thx [16:05] ok, I guess the security team needs to do that then, for USN and all? [16:05] pitti: thanks for all the help :) [16:06] dobey: thanks for bearing with us :) [16:08] pitti: its universe, so there is no USN [16:08] but i will poke jdstrand [16:08] ah, ok [16:09] pitti: i think he wants your ack [16:09] pitti: maybe he wanted to see this in -updates first and then copy it to -security ;) [16:09] but let me check [16:09] asac: sent my ack, and let me know how he wants this to be handled [16:09] yep [16:10] see #u-devel [16:13] hey pitti [16:13] hey kenvandine [16:13] so trying to package this stuff up created by quickly [16:14] kenvandine: empathy dependency trail never ends :( [16:14] it isn't including the python files :) [16:14] oh crap [16:14] geoclue was axed... what now? [16:14] kenvandine: which python files? [16:14] kenvandine: I updated the bug; butterfly [16:14] the ones in the python subdir [16:14] not sure wheter we want it [16:14] oh... pymsn? [16:14] we do... [16:14] imho [16:14] kenvandine: can you please file a bug against p-distutils-extra about it with a test case? [16:14] that is where the attention is [16:14] yeah [16:14] actually [16:14] maybe i am not up2date :) [16:15] kenvandine: does that subdir have an __init__.py? [16:15] doh! [16:15] (also, it sholdn't be called "python", but like the python package name) [16:15] i know [16:15] just explained that to rick [16:15] but python packages need an __init__.py [16:16] * kenvandine should have noticed [16:16] python modules are currently searched only in the source root [16:16] if we want p-d-e to look for modules (not packages) in subdirs, we need to establish a convention === SiDi_ is now known as SiDi [16:31] pitti: hey [16:32] what does this mean: [16:32] gtk ... [dpkg -S found more than one package: python-gtk2, python-apt, language-selector, apturl, software-properties-gtk; ignoring] [not found] [16:32] ? [16:32] rickspencer3: it means that it cannot figure out the dependency for the "gtk" python module [16:33] rickspencer3: I thought I fixed that in version 2.4? [16:33] pitti: perhaps I need to update === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [16:35] pitti: it looks like I'm running 2.4 [16:38] rickspencer3: did you install from karmic or build from my branch? [16:38] pitti: your branch [16:39] rickspencer3: ok, sounds like a bug then; mind filing one with that output and the code you are building? [16:39] pitti: n/p [16:39] asap, maybe tonight or tomorrow though [16:40] pitti: before I do that, I should install from your last known good [16:40] rickspencer3: you should have the current version [16:41] rickspencer3: doesn't really matter for now, it should work anyway [16:41] https://edge.launchpad.net/%7Epitti/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/663833/+listing-archive-extra [16:41] rickspencer3: assuming that you have python-gtk installed [16:47] bryce, Is there any pending uploads for -ati drivers and the latest kernel? I'm getting "(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch." [17:52] chrisccoulson: (hi!) out of curiosity, how did you find the renamed option in gnome-screensaver? [18:06] good night everyone! [18:34] pitti: ping [18:35] pitti: just wondering if you can gdb your i915.o and do a "list *intel_update_watermarks+0xcf" [19:47] hi... does the desktop team/mailing list also involve in the usability issues of UNR? === andreasn__ is now known as andreasn [19:57] ah...just now i was reminded about the mobile team! [20:17] hi didrocks [20:18] i just ran gnome-screensaver --debug and watched the console output. gnome-screensaver-dialog pipes its output back to gnome-screensaver, which made debugging a bit easier than i expected [20:18] when i volunteered to debug it, i was expecting to spend an entire weekend on it ;) [20:19] i was pleasantly surprised === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [21:14] pitti: hello. Do you know what happened to this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-power/+bug/329296 ? [21:14] Ubuntu bug 329296 in gnome-power-manager "Improve notifications" [Undecided,Fix released] === dashua_ is now known as dashua === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [23:27] gdm calling ck-history --frequent isn't pretty IMO