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savvasis there a way to prevent a package from building in certain architectures? can "Architecture" be used for the Source package in debian/control?03:31
StevenKsavvas: The simplest way is to get the package added to Packages-arch-specific, and then Soyuz won't even add builds for those arches03:36
savvasah, it's an old package, gambas 1 :)03:36
savvasthe best way would be to patch it for 2, but I don't know that programming language hehe03:37
savvasStevenK: thanks though, noted!03:37
dholbachgood morning07:36
slytherindholbach: good morning. :-)07:36
dholbachhi slytherin07:36
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DanMcGoohi07:49
DanMcGooneed help07:50
micahgDanMcGoo: it's usually easier to just post your issue07:51
micahgsomeone will reply if they can07:51
iulianMorning dholbach.07:51
DanMcGoook ^^07:51
DanMcGooI am trying to configure mini-dinstall and pbuilder in order to resolve some dependencies07:53
dholbachhi iulian07:53
DanMcGooin order to test one of my package building07:53
DanMcGoobut it does not seems to work07:53
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loellgeneral question, if one is to package for debian, does one really needs to setup a debian system and not ubuntu?10:10
gaspaloell: it's really better, you can find differences in build systems, too.10:11
loellgaspa, it's just i'm really frustrated at setting up sid :(10:12
gaspaloell: just use a virtual machine.10:12
loellsidux?10:13
loelli mean vm with sidux? or generic sid?10:13
gaspaloell: I didn't know sidux... it depends from how it differ from a clean debian, imho.10:14
loellok10:14
loellthis has actually made me appreciate more, at how ubuntu makes it easier for packagers10:15
directhexi just use a pbuilder & wait to get moaned at if it breaks in a real environment10:19
directhexi'm naughty like that10:19
siretart`directhex: how do you test your debian builds then? pbuilder login?10:20
loellon related question, does lintian depend on specific build environment?10:21
directhexsiretart, aye10:21
loelldirecthex, i wish i could do something like that too, but not having a mentor is difficult to hide what your build environment really is :)10:24
directhexloell, it becomes easier (to break the archive?) ifwhen the powers that be approve my DD application10:26
loelldirecthex, oh my, i couldn't wait to be under your wings :D10:27
loellOTH, how about i should just do the revu route then give back to debian later?10:30
loellhow feasible would that be?10:31
loellor more generally, how does ubuntu give back to debian again? ;)10:32
RAOFloell: Well, by joining one of the various debian CLI teams!10:33
loellah i see10:34
slytherindirecthex: banshee works very well in jaunty (i386). :-)10:38
slytherinloell: What problems are you facing setting up sid?10:38
directhexslytherin, i wish i had the means to track down this ppc thing though :(10:45
directhexslytherin, lack of access to hardware sucks. is there no way to use qemu effectively?10:45
loellslytherin, setting up the build environment10:53
loellmy bad, for taking a while to reply.10:53
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slytherinloell: I thoought you were having issues in installing Debian sid11:16
loellslytherin, and that too11:17
slytherinloell: what kind of issues in installation?11:17
slytherindirecthex: how hard is it to track without hardware?11:18
loellminor once, i must concede11:18
loelllike no grub entry for ubuntu11:18
loellno pidgin package!?11:19
directhexslytherin, well, it's a PPC-only bug you've got, so i need a way to reproduce it to isolate it.11:19
directhexslytherin, i think the problem is with the sqlite binding, but that's a pure guess11:19
loellslytherine, in ubuntu, ubuntu-dev meta-package would most probably be enough11:20
loellbut i'm stumped on how to redo that on sid11:20
loellerr i mean ubuntu-dev-tools11:22
slytherindirecthex: hmm, does it look like one of those endian related issues?11:26
directhexslytherin, i don't know. not obviously so, but i'd be surprised if it was something else11:26
slytherinloell: there is no ubuntu-dev-tools package for Debian (it's obvious). And you don't need ubuntu-dev-tools to setup pbuilder for Debian sid.11:27
slytherindirecthex: do you have any idea where I should I look for the problem? Banshee code or sqlite bindings?11:28
loellwhich i just installed pbuilder which requires me a mirror?11:28
loelli could have swear i've use pbuilder in ubuntu many times, but setting a mirror wasn't one of them, when i use it11:29
slytherinloell: have you gone through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto It nicely explains how to setup different chroots from Debian and Ubuntu.11:30
slytherindirecthex: pm?12:00
directhexslytherin, well the challenge is trying to find a reproducible test case, but it's such a wide search space :/12:02
directhexslytherin, gah, and the debugger is only for i386/amd6412:03
bigoncould someone have a look at bug 389203 ?12:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 389203 in farsight "libfarsight incorrectly linked against libjingle" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38920312:26
bigonit's for a sru (no changes only rebuild)12:27
roshan08hi all, i am writing a desktop app for blogging, how does a deb gets included in the ubuntu repo13:07
Ampelbeinroshan08: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages13:08
roshan08Ampelbein, ok thanks13:09
rrittenhouseAnyone know how soon firefox 3.5 might be available as a replacement to firefox 3.0 in 9.04?13:32
ogranever ?13:42
RainCTogra: I think it'll be made available in -backports13:43
ograright13:43
ograbut not as a replacement13:43
slytherinogra is correct here. It will never be made available as replacement.13:44
RainCTright, missed that part of the question13:44
RainCT(but it can be set as the default browser in System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications, of course)13:45
ograindeed13:45
slytheringeser: It is bugs like this - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535919 - that make the sync of maven related packages very time consuming. :-(13:48
ubottuDebian bug 535919 in doxia "doxia: JAVA_HOME in debian/rules does not correspond to default-jdk" [Important,Open]13:48
geserslytherin: does it at least build with openjdk?13:53
slytheringeser: it should, I guess.13:54
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slytheringeser: there are two options 1. Sync all the maven related packages from Debian and try solving FTBFS on our own. 2. Try test building the packages first, report any FTBFS to Debian and then sync them. What do you suggest?14:00
geserdepends on how quick it get fixed in Debian, I'd probably do a mix of 1 and 2: Test build, upload (if patch is necessary) or sync, and forward the patch to Debian14:06
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directhexmoo14:11
artfwoHi! I wonder is it possible to backport the fix for bug 309841 to Hardy and Intrepid as an update (not a backport)?14:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 309841 in ia32-libs "[jaunty] some ia32 libs are linked in weird places" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30984114:13
bddebianHeya gang14:22
iulianHello bddebian.14:23
bddebianHi iulian14:23
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geserHi bddebian14:25
bddebianHeya geser14:28
slytherinTheMuso: did you get any chance to test your theory regarding build failures on powerpc?14:32
slytherindholbach: nice and to the point of reply. :-)14:39
dholbachslytherin: thanks for the flowers :)14:39
dholbachnhandler: I don't know if I replied to your UbuntuDeveloperWeek edit, but if you can get a perl packaging session rolling for UDW - that'd be fantastic14:41
dholbachnhandler: can you please get them to pick a date and time? :)14:41
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nhandlerdholbach: I'm still talking with some of them. I'll try and get them to choose a date and time sometime this week14:45
dholbachexcellent14:45
dholbachthanks a lot nhandler!14:45
dholbachmuch appreciated14:46
nhandler:)14:46
dholbachthe earlier we get the schedule together, the better :)14:46
nhandlerdholbach: I think we should make a stronger effort to get the Debian teams involved in these sessions. Most of the tools/procedures would be the same, but it would boost interaction between Ubuntu and Debian.14:47
dholbachabsolutely14:47
Laneywill there be a Debian collaboration session?14:48
Laneyhas there been before?14:48
dholbachLaney: there has14:55
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0901/Debian14:56
dholbachhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek0802/Debian14:56
Laneyyay14:56
dholbachand maybe at UOW too14:56
dholbachif you could help to chase up people who want to run a session and get them to drop me an email, I'd really really appreciate it :)14:57
Laneywe have some DDs in here14:59
dholbachmaybe something about Packaging QA efforts?14:59
dholbachlike NBS, getting a package to be lintian-clean, etc.14:59
dholbachfinding out what a new standards-version is about15:00
dholbachand so on15:00
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LaneyDktrKranz: geser: gaspa: In case you guys didn't notice, pkg-haskell is now live16:06
DktrKranzLaney: uh?16:08
Laneydebian team16:09
Laneyjust pinged the people who I thought might care16:09
DktrKranzah, cool16:09
DktrKranzwasn't a team up already?16:09
Laneynot really16:09
Laneyit existed but was dead16:10
gaspaLaney: saw right now your post.16:11
Laney\o16:11
DktrKranzLaney: did you mail something?16:12
Laneyto who?16:12
DktrKranzubuntu-motu, or whatever?16:13
Laneynope16:13
Laneythought it was a bit too niche for anyone to care16:13
gaspaLaney: so, will we stand with 6.10.3 ? (i don't seen any news about 6.12 )16:14
Laneyi guess so :(16:14
LaneyJoachim just came up with a tool to generate the required rebuilds. I'll hack that up for Ubuntu and then we can start to clean up the mess16:15
gaspaLaney: is there a wiki page?16:15
Laneythere's wiki.d.o/haskell but most stuff is happening on the ML now16:16
gaspaI hear something about it... but never investigate.16:16
gaspaah16:16
Laneycome to the IRC channel16:16
DktrKranzLaney: great, we really need it.16:19
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kklimondaasac, why doesn't firefox 3.5 (the one from jaunty-security) doesn't use mozilla branding?17:56
kklimondaerm, doesn't.. sigh.. i need some sleep17:57
asackklimonda: we only ship the default browser with official branding17:59
asacalso we explicitly want the package to be installed side by side18:00
asacand having same branding causes confusino then18:00
asacbecause you cannot identify, what icon mean what ;)18:00
kklimondai see, thanks18:00
asacbut first reason is the dominating reason. also changing branding in a -security update is beyond its scope (even beyond SRU)18:00
asacits a main UI element ... and changing UI is officially forbidden18:01
kklimondamhm18:01
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joaopintokklimonda, that bug report you were handling for cherrypy, I believe you used it for an SRU please note that Karmic's version is still not fixed (or was not, the last time I have checked)18:33
kklimondajoaopinto, i know about it18:34
joaopintook18:34
kklimondajoaopinto, i think I've attached a debdiff for it to update to 3.1.2.. I'm almost sure that I should have done it differently (i.e. attach .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz) but I couldn't find a right page when I was last working on that18:36
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RoAkSoAxHey guys, I'm trying to package from scratch an app. This app already comes with a debian/ directory. What should be done in this cases?19:34
nhandlerRoAkSoAx: You can try and contact the upstream developer to try and have them remove that directory from the tarball19:34
RoAkSoAxnhandler, if they refuse to do that?? Should I just debianize it myself?19:35
hggdhRoAkSoAx, you can code a get-orig-source to clean up the upstream tarball, and then debianise from there19:46
hggdh(in ./debian/rules)19:47
RoAkSoAxhggdh, you mean for example create a script that cleans up the upstreams tarball or a Makefile that does that?19:49
hggdhRoAkSoAx, if this is a new package, just clean it up; then, in the ./debian/rules that you will have, add in a get-orig-source rule to grab a new/current version. This will allow for a reviewer to confirm there are no other changes to the upstream source19:51
RoAkSoAxhggdh, ok thanks :)19:52
hggdhin the get-orig-source, you download the source from upstream, remove the ./debian directory, and tarball it19:52
RoAkSoAxok cool :)19:54
ScottKRoAkSoAx: Repacking is not required unless you need to remove a file completely in their debian dir.  It's up to you if you want to fix their packaging or do your own.19:58
RoAkSoAxScottK, ok. I guess doing my own packaging will be better then. Thanks :)20:01
neversfeldeHi, how can I replace a ../0.9.951.0Beta1/.. in a watch file?20:28
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Ampelbeinneversfelde: untested: versionmangle=s/\/0\.9\.951\.0Beta1\//<whateveryouwant>20:40
neversfeldeAmpelbein: thank you20:40
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daurnimator_hi23:11
daurnimator_theres a couple of lua librarys I would really like to be put in ubuntu repos, is there someone that can help?23:11
micahgping mdeslaur_23:16
daurnimator_ok, I filed a bug for one package23:29
daurnimator_but theres another I'm not sure if I should file for: its a new library that has just had it's first release...23:30
mdeslaur_micahg: pong23:43
micahgmdeslaur_: did your phpmyadmin updates take care of all the outstanding CVEs?23:44
mdeslaur_micahg: yes, except CVE-2008-2960 on hardy23:45
micahgok, cool23:45
mdeslaur_micahg: I didn't make updates for dapper though23:45
micahgshould I open a new bug report if more are released?23:45
mdeslaur_micahg: sure23:45
micahgok, thanks mdeslaur_23:45
Arimalcan anyone help me out with using dpkg-scanpackages to make a repository? for some reason it is not printing anything into the Packages file23:48
ArimalI'm trying to make a local repository23:48
ArimalI've read the man page and I believe I have everything set right, but for some reason it isn't outputting anything23:49
azeemArimal: what command are you running?23:49
Arimalfind . -name "*.deb" > override23:50
Arimalthen23:50
Arimaldpkg-scanpackages -m /media/disk/Loot/Debs/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386 override > Packages23:50
Arimalthen23:50
Arimalcat Packages | gzip -c > Packages.gz23:50
azeemAFAIK, dpkg-scanpackages expects a path where to look for .debs23:51
azeemand the current directory is not default23:51
ArimalI've tried messing with the path in the dpkg-scanpackages23:51
ArimalI tried just a    .23:51
Arimalwhile in that directory23:51
azeemno idea then, sorry23:51
Arimalit gives some error info saying there are duplicates and everything, so it is finding the packages, but for some reason it's just not outputting23:52
azeemmaybe Packages is read-only or something?23:53
Arimalthanks for trying azeem23:53
ArimalI deleted it before starting... so it's generated new each time through23:53
ArimalI've been wracking my brain over this because this script used to work fine23:53
* ajmitch just has something like:23:54
ajmitchdpkg-scanpackages . -a amd64 /dev/null23:54
ajmitchso an empty override file, and everything below the current directory23:55
Arimalso /dev/null is the override?23:55
Arimalhmmm23:55
Arimalbrb23:55
Arimalwill try it23:55
ajmitchor you could try something like reprepro23:55
Arimalhmmm.... still no output but i did get an error this time... apparently it doesn't like the froswire deb ;)   trying again23:58

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