[01:10] <jpds> Where did tsimpson go? :(
[01:31] <jpds> * ubot2 will be down momentary while I restore backups.
 i just miss my gamez and warez
[03:27] <elky_work> and i miss the days when people had and used commonsense.
[06:45] <ubot3> In #ubuntu-drupal, MTecknology said: !appeals is <reply>If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay ##mtecknology a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page.
[06:45] <Flannel> !appeals
[06:45] <Flannel> Oh
[06:45] <MTecknology> I tried to add -#ubuntu-drupal on that
[06:47] <MTecknology> Can ubot3 handle those?
[06:47] <nalioth> MTecknology: ubot3 is doing it's job
[06:48] <MTecknology> ?
[06:50] <MTecknology> nalioth: what did I do wrong with the factoid request?
[06:51] <MTecknology> I assumed the bot is working right and I'm doing it wrong
[06:52] <nalioth> MTecknology: you've done nothing wrong at all
[06:52] <nalioth> when a factoid request is made, it's funneled here for us to ponder
[06:53] <nalioth> a previous incarnation of bot had !bush -> bush sucks and !debian -> debian blows and all kinds of crap in it
[06:53] <MTecknology> right, but if I add the channel name to it, it throws an error
[06:53] <nalioth> all factoids are approved and added here
[06:53] <nalioth> because it's not been added yet?
[06:54] <MTecknology> 00:45 < MTecknology> !appeals-#ubuntu-drupal is <reply>If you [....]  00:45 < ubot3> MTecknology: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[06:55] <nalioth> MTecknology: it came through just fine in here
[06:55] <nalioth> the bot is working fine.
[06:55] <MTecknology> so you got it 3 different times?
[06:55] <nalioth> just once
[06:55] <MTecknology> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/210940/
[06:56] <nalioth> the bot won't spam, either
[06:57] <elky> MTecknology, can you imagine this place if it did spam and trollies figured that out?
[06:57] <MTecknology> It gave me erros with !appeals-#ubuntu-drupal but sent me a pm saying the message came here (expected that) when I used just !appeals
[06:57] <elky> excuse me while i go huggle under my desk and whimper at the thought.
[06:58] <MTecknology> :P
[06:58] <elky> ... <ubot3> In #ubuntu-drupal, MTecknology said: !appeals is <reply>If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay ##mtecknology a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page.
[06:58] <MTecknology> that's what I imagined showed up in here
[06:59] <elky> MTecknology, is there any reason why you'd not use #ubuntu-irc for this?
[07:00] <nalioth> because ubot3 doesn't echo in there
[07:00] <MTecknology> because the bot said it came here so I followed it. I wanted to know what I couldn't add a channel to the factoid. It confused me because I know the Encyclopedia plugin should allow that
[07:00] <elky> nalioth, i mean s/##mtecknology/#ubuntu-irc/
[07:01] <nalioth> MTecknology: the ubot*s are very locked down
[07:01] <MTecknology> elky: I could use that instead, that's just the channel I used as an ops channel when I had my own (constantly breaking) bot
[07:01] <MTecknology> ok
[07:02] <MTecknology> So do I need to make each factoid request in the channel itself then?
[07:02] <nalioth> MTecknology: you make a factoid request and its' echoed in here
[07:03] <MTecknology> i get that much, but I can't add the channel name to the request
[07:03] <nalioth> if it's not "bush sucks",  or a repeat of another factoid, it'll probably get added
[07:03] <nalioth> MTecknology: you can't add ANYTHING
[07:03] <MTecknology> i get that..
[07:03] <nalioth> we'll take care of it
[07:03] <MTecknology> did you look at that paste? It's the difference of !fact and !fact-#channel
[07:04] <elky> you can pm the bot too, and that should work fine.
[07:05] <MTecknology> It doesn't like the channel name there either
[07:06] <elky> it works fine for adding. make sure your #'s are not funky encoding or something
[07:07] <MTecknology> I just tried with a different terminal to the same result
[07:08] <MTecknology> I'll try something else
[07:10] <MTecknology> tried with the freenode webchat, same thing
[07:12] <MTecknology> nalioth: Is that part of them being locked down?
[07:13] <nalioth> how many times do you need to request a factoid?
[07:14] <MTecknology> idk, I'm guessing less times that the number of lines I've annoyed you with in here
[07:14] <MTecknology> I was looking at the Encyclopedia source
[07:15] <MTecknology> I think I understand what's going on. I'll just make the requests in the channe; and call it good
[07:16] <MTecknology> nalioth: sorry to annoy you
[07:16] <MTecknology> elky: should I still use -irc if I use set the ban to forward to my channel?
[07:16] <nalioth> you're not annoying me at all
[07:16] <elky> MTecknology, yep. alot more protection for you in there
[07:17] <MTecknology> alrighty, I'll do that instead :)
[07:17] <MTecknology> nalioth: I tried the same with ubottu and it prompted me to look into the source. I'll bug the smart guys later :)
[07:19] <MTecknology> I suppose I should run away now, thanks happy community people :)
[07:37] <Space> rizon.net
[08:12] <elky_work> that looked rather spammerific
[08:14] <jussi01> and probably only banned because of ident == epic fail?
[09:00] <Myrtti> hello
[09:00] <jussi01> hello Myrtti
[10:07] <ikonia> Myrtti: thesaneman in #ubuntu-fi-offtopic maybe worth an eye on 
[10:07] <ikonia> 10:03 <thesandman> you fucking ass hole
[10:07] <ikonia> that was his last pm to me
[10:08] <elky> such polite people we've been encountering today
[10:08] <ikonia> he was a delight
[10:10] <elky> it's actually been quiet here today, comparatively
[10:10] <ikonia> good
[10:10] <ikonia> I suspect #ubuntu-fi-offtopic will be livley
[10:11]  * elky huggles Myrtti preemptively
[10:11] <Myrtti> ikonia: noted
[10:17] <elky> a certain someone is proving their lack of intelligence in -ot again, hehehe
[10:37] <Grant-A> hi
[10:38] <Grant-A> I was recently assaulted in #ubuntu-offtopic for something I didn't even do, but then magnetron makes this comment:
[10:38] <Grant-A> [04:23] <magnetron> for instance, Grant-A's irc chatter is a secondary source. the primary source would be his butt
[10:38] <Grant-A> and that didn't get flagged?
[10:38] <ikonia> bit late in the day 
[10:39] <Grant-A> I just wanted to say that that was a bit... odd.
[10:39] <ikonia> ok - noted, thanks
[10:40] <elky> now he can stop PMing me, hopefully
[10:40] <ikonia> this guy is a time waster
[10:40] <elky> i know
[10:44] <elky> he decided he just *had* to PM me and explain his logic. when i ignored it, he changed to complaining about magnetron. that's when i piped appeals to him
[10:45] <elky> by 'ignore', i mean 'didn't respond instantly enough with the praise he wanted'
[10:45] <ikonia> he's pm'ing me - I also ignored it
[10:59] <Grant-A> alright, look
[10:59] <Grant-A> I've finally had enough, and please hear me out
[10:59] <Grant-A> from day 1 I stepped into #ubuntu-offtopic, I've been hassled by Ikonia.
[10:59] <Grant-A> Just earlier, I was assaulted for "referencing wikipedia"
[10:59] <Grant-A> and act I did not even do
[11:00] <Grant-A> I simply told magnetron that the OAS was not the same as the US, and gave him a link to wikipedia about it
[11:00] <Grant-A> Then magnetron makes a comment like this:
[11:01] <Grant-A> [04:23] <magnetron> for instance, Grant-A's irc chatter is a secondary source. the primary source would be his butt
[11:01] <Grant-A> and it slips through the radar, while I continue getting assaulted for linking to wikipedia?!
[11:01] <Grant-A> what kinda of justice is that?
[11:01] <elky> Grant-A, what to do you take magnetron's comment to mean?
[11:01] <Grant-A> That I - please excuse my language - pull all of my thoughts out of my ass
[11:02] <Grant-A> I mean come on, I get wailed on by 3 ops for linking to wikipedia, and THAT doesn't even get caught?
[11:02] <elky> do you know what that is meant by that?
[11:02] <Grant-A> look, honestly
[11:03] <Myrtti> we're trying very hard to make sense of all this
[11:03] <elky> no, you look. i'm trying to work through this with you,
[11:03] <Grant-A> I hope someone who isn't in the op clique is listening. Everytime I come in here, the ops always cling around the op in question. Not even taking into account that they are abusing the user
[11:03] <Grant-A> They ops seem less like a group to help users, and more like a group to protect their own
[11:03] <elky> Grant-A, you're not helping yourself by ignoring my attempts to help you
[11:04] <Grant-A> If I didn't believe that ikonia was hounded me almost all the time I go in there, would I honestly be in here?
[11:04] <Grant-A> elky: I just told you
[11:04] <Grant-A> [05:01] <elky> Grant-A, what to do you take magnetron's comment to mean?
[11:04] <Grant-A> [05:01] <Grant-A> That I - please excuse my language - pull all of my thoughts out of my ass
[11:05] <elky> Grant-A, right, and then i asked if you knew what is meant by 'pulling knowledge out of one's rear'
[11:05] <Grant-A> That everything I say is bull
[11:05] <Grant-A> but were you not in the room for the past 6 hours?
[11:05] <Grant-A> It was a pretty peaceful and easy-going conversation
[11:05] <Grant-A> then ikonia starts, and the punches start rolling in
[11:06] <Grant-A> Is defending someone who is using an innocent user as a punching bad really helping ubuntu for the greater good?
[11:06] <Grant-A> Everytime I say something, Ikonia breathes down my neck and has to start something
[11:06] <Grant-A> do you see what I mean?
[11:07] <Grant-A> in the past 3 days, have you seen any problems with my conversations (save for the last incident)
[11:07] <elky> Grant-A, i can see you in there saying stuff like <Grant-A> Germanic languages sound like garbage
[11:07] <Grant-A> if you read up a big
[11:07] <Grant-A> *bit
[11:07] <Grant-A> you'll notice that I was talking about when their sung
[11:07] <Grant-A> *they're
[11:08] <Grant-A> and no one really had a problem with it
[11:08] <Grant-A> they conversed, we had a good time, and went on with our days
[11:08] <Grant-A> is that not the purpose of #ubuntu-offtopic?
[11:08] <elky> but why should you get to have that opinion about the quality of their singing if magnetron cannot have an opinion about the quality of what you say?
[11:08] <Grant-A> There's a difference
[11:08] <Grant-A> I was not attacking a single person
[11:08] <Grant-A> magnetron was
[11:09] <Grant-A> and frankly, I was being ganged up on
[11:09] <elky> because what you said was 'garbage'.
[11:09] <Grant-A> calling a germanic language something is in a whole different field than insulting a person
[11:09] <Grant-A> when sung
[11:09] <Grant-A> I did not say that the language was utter garbage, and personally, English is my favorite language
[11:10] <Grant-A> even then, I went on to say that English does sound pretty good in rock and metal
[11:10] <Grant-A> and that was hours ago
 Alaska is there to keep an eye on the canadians
 those guys are unpredictable
[11:10] <Myrtti> Norwegian is the only good language for rock and metal.
[11:10] <Grant-A> have you never heard of satire?
[11:10] <Myrtti> all the others are garbage
[11:10] <Grant-A> notice the smiley underneath those sentences
 :P
[11:11] <Myrtti> irony and sarcasm translates very badly to IRC
[11:11] <Grant-A> there is a difference between good humored, light-hearted satire, and flaming
[11:11] <elky> Grant-A, my point is that you've been in there all day saying some pretty darn inciteful stuff based on little to know actual knowledge.
[11:11] <elky> not insiteful, inciteful
[11:12] <Grant-A> most of my "darn inciteful stuff based on little knowledge" was followed directly by a smiley, and was satire!
[11:12] <Grant-A> it matters not if I say something wrong, something ill-informed, what matters is that when someone brings it back up, it sparks a flame war
[11:12] <elky> it's the culmination of all that stuff that wore thin to the point where people got fed up.
[11:12] <Grant-A> and that's a reason to start a flame war
[11:12] <Grant-A> ?
[11:12] <Grant-A> no, flame wars should be avoided at all costs
[11:13] <Grant-A> if you do not like someone, that is what /ignore is for
[11:13] <elky> smilies dont prevent flame wars.
[11:13] <Grant-A> smilies indicate jokes and satire
[11:13] <Grant-A> especially ":P
[11:13] <Grant-A> operators are supposed to stop flame wars, not engage in them!
[11:14] <Grant-A> and even moreso, why are you attacking me for inaccuracy? Attack one of the big media conglomerates or Microsoft for spreading FUD about various things!
[11:14] <ikonia> pointing a finger at microsoft for more random nonsense
[11:14] <Grant-A> There are much better targets than me to pick on
[11:14] <elky> ikonia, yep, noted.
[11:14] <ikonia> Grant-A: the problem is - you talk a lot of nonsnese - thats the bottom of it
[11:15] <elky> and that's all that magnetron was saying.
[11:15] <Grant-A> then you shouldn't reply
[11:15] <ikonia> no - you should stop talking nonsense
[11:15] <Grant-A> if you didn't reply to me in the first place
[11:15] <Grant-A> that whole flame war would have been avoided
[11:15] <ikonia> you have been warned multiple time
[11:15] <Grant-A> in that conversation?
[11:15] <Grant-A> really? by whom?
[11:15] <ikonia> myself, and other operators and other users
[11:15] <Grant-A> no
[11:15] <Grant-A> I saw no warnings in that entire duration I was in there
[11:15] <ikonia> you're denying that you have been warend and banned in the past for talking nonsense ?
[11:16] <Grant-A> in the _past_
[11:16] <Grant-A> we are talking about now
[11:16] <ikonia> yes, and you are STILL doing it
[11:16] <elky> Grant-A, you dont get a new set of warnings each time you join the channel
[11:16] <Grant-A> Ikonia, have you ever noticed that the flame wars don't start until you point out an inaccuracy?
[11:16] <Grant-A> I've had several people defend me before!
[11:16] <ikonia> so ?
[11:16] <Grant-A> obviously, there's more than just
[11:17] <Grant-A> "nonsense" here
[11:17] <elky> and we had several people defend us this time.
[11:17] <Grant-A> who were all OPS
[11:17] <jussi01> Grant-A: err, today? [11:30:08] <jussi01> Grant-A: you are wandering outside the channel limits...
[11:17] <elky> jussi01, thanks :)
[11:17] <Grant-A> jussi01: That was with my google streetview mention of mooning them
[11:17] <Grant-A> not of any nonsense
[11:18] <Grant-A> Ikonia was the straw that broke the horses' back
[11:18] <ikonia> Grant-A: you won't have ANY problems if you just get a grip a little on what you're saying
[11:18] <ikonia> Grant-A: this time it's me, last time it was pquarrels
[11:18] <ikonia> it's always "someone" "abusing you"
[11:18] <Grant-A> that whole flame war wouldn't have escalated into this if you had never made your comment!
[11:18] <Grant-A> yes, and quite obviously, you are the root of the problem
[11:18] <ikonia> Grant-A: just ignore it then 
[11:18] <Grant-A> how can I ignore it when 5 other people jump in?
[11:18] <elky> Grant-A, he'd never of said his comment if you hadn't been spouting garbage.
[11:18] <ikonia> that was your advice to me
[11:19] <Grant-A> no, and you two know that this is not right@!
[11:19] <Grant-A> Quit trying to defend yourselves, and actually look at what you two are doing!
[11:19] <ikonia> Grant-A: the bottom line is you have a history of doing this in multiple ubuntu channels, 
[11:19]  * elky holds a mirror up in front of Grant-A.
[11:19] <Grant-A> you're defending yourself for starting the very things you're supposed to protect against
[11:19] <ikonia> Grant-A: therefore you are more obvious when you lean on the rules/guidlines
[11:19] <Grant-A> sprouting "garbage" as you put it, isn't against the CoC
[11:19] <Grant-A> but flaming, however, is
[11:19] <ikonia> Grant-A: I totaly admit I come down on you hard because of the ammount of times you've been asked to stop
[11:19] <Grant-A> so please, look in the mirror one last time before you accuse me
[11:20] <ikonia> ?
[11:20] <elky> Grant-A, you cant turn every disagreement into 'flaming' at your say-so
[11:20] <Grant-A> WHAT?!
[11:20] <Grant-A> how what that not flaming?!
[11:20] <Grant-A> you just acknowledged that it was a flame war!
[11:20] <ikonia> this is the same pattern
[11:20] <ikonia> ahhh now the wording quoting starts
[11:21] <Grant-A> honestly, I'm getting tired of this
[11:21] <ikonia> then don't join the channel ?
[11:21] <ikonia> if it doesn't fit your needs for chatter
[11:21] <elky> i said no such thing.
[11:21] <Grant-A> obviously, if I keep coming in here
[11:21] <Grant-A> then there IS a problem
[11:21] <Grant-A> I've shown you all countless logs in the past
[11:21] <ikonia> obviously if you are banned from multiple channels - there is a problem
[11:21] <elky> then take it to the next step in the appeals process.
[11:21] <Grant-A> everyone of them starts with Ikonia saying something quite disrespectful
[11:21] <ikonia> Grant-A: you've snippeted logs before in the past - so don't try this again as you came out looking foolish when you tried this with pquarrels
[11:22] <ikonia> Grant-A: no - it's starts with you making nonsense comments
[11:22] <Grant-A> Attacking the prosecutor?
[11:22] <ikonia> Grant-A: I am only asking you think about what you say to people
[11:22] <Grant-A> is that honestly where you're headed?
[11:22] <Grant-A> and that's what I'm asking you to do!
[11:22] <ikonia> I have no idea what you're saying
[11:22] <ikonia> you're just using random words now
[11:22] <Grant-A> I'm tired of you sparking these flame wars
[11:23] <Grant-A> You've been attacking me, and you've been attacking my very honesty since you started talking in here
[11:23] <elky> Grant-A, please proceed to the next step in the appeals process.
[11:23] <ikonia> then stop making nonsense statments and referencing wikipedia, I've aske dyou nicley 10 times
[11:23] <Grant-A> THE LAST TIME WASN'T EVEN A REFERENCE TO WIKIPEDIA!
[11:23] <Grant-A> All I'm asking is that you stop
[11:23] <Grant-A> I'm fed up, and tired of getting abused just because I'm an easy target
[11:23] <ikonia> then stop talking nonsense - and you won't get pulled up on 
[11:23] <Grant-A> quit it
[11:23] <ikonia> Grant-A: you're an "easy target" because you keep talking nonsnese
[11:24] <Grant-A> quit trying to make this appear as if it's only me
[11:24] <ikonia> it is
[11:24] <Grant-A> everyone who was in that conversation had a role
[11:24] <ikonia> no-one else has this issue
[11:24] <ikonia> nope
[11:24] <Grant-A> and had no one said anything, then we wouldn't be in  this mess
[11:24] <ikonia> this is the same thing he tried with pquarrels
[11:24] <Grant-A> what just happened?
[11:24] <ikonia> you where kicked from the channel with a link to teh appeals process
[11:24] <Grant-A> my tab crashed on me
[11:24] <elky> Grant-A, i kicked you because you were foaming like a rabid wolf.
[11:24] <Grant-A> I didn't get a link
[11:25] <jussi01> Grant-A: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess
[11:25] <elky> Grant-A, it's in the factoid that ubottu PM'd you a while back
[11:25] <Grant-A> look, let me say something
[11:26] <ikonia> the same thing again
[11:26] <ikonia> don't bother
[11:26] <elky> Grant-A, no, save that for the appeal to the IRC COuncil
[11:26] <ikonia> just follow the process
[11:26] <Grant-A> look, I just want to talk to ikonia
[11:26] <Grant-A> please, I'm asking you, don't keep doing this
[11:26] <Pricey> Grant-A: /query is available
[11:26] <ikonia> don't
[11:26] <Grant-A> deny all you want, but please
[11:26] <Grant-A> you cannot deny that by saying something you have a hand in it, you know?
[11:26] <ikonia> this is pointless he's not listening to the words being said
[11:27] <ikonia> and this is the same hassle as #ubuntuforums had
[11:27] <Grant-A> I know, I will follow the link
[11:27] <Grant-A> but I just want to say this
[11:27] <elky> Grant-A, no. part now.
[11:27] <bazhang> thanks
[11:27]  * Myrtti hates teleconferences
[11:28] <elky> Myrtti, metoo
[11:28] <Myrtti> especially the ones I have to pay .24€/minute to attend
[11:28] <elky> Myrtti, eww
[11:29] <ikonia> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/211171/
[11:30] <ikonia> for the record as he has a bad habbit of cutting and pasting logs he want's/doesn't want to use
[11:30] <elky> by that i take it you mean selectively cut/paste
[11:30] <ikonia> yes
[11:31] <ikonia> see the notes/ask pquarrels about this
[11:31] <ikonia> and/or jdong
[11:31] <jussi01> pquarles...
[11:31] <ikonia> this is the exact same dribble as #ubuntu forums
[11:31] <ikonia> jussi01: ta
[11:31] <ikonia> #ubuntuforums even
[11:32] <elky> ikonia, wait, so he took it to your PM after i had ubottu send him the appeals link?
[11:32] <ikonia> yes
[11:32] <elky> also, i'm going to mark this
[11:32] <elky> @mark
[11:32] <ikonia> he's been pm'ing me all day just keeps saying "I just want to say" then goes off on a rant
[11:32] <ikonia> all day is an exageration, since he was called out for making more nonsnese stuff
[11:33] <elky> so this is not the first intervention by you today?
[11:33] <elky> i just quickly scrolled over the backlog to pluck those comments out. i didn't read it all.
[11:33] <ikonia> no - this was today
[11:33] <ikonia> first today sorry 
[11:33] <ikonia> but he keeps referencing it
[11:34] <ikonia> eg: he waited about an hour before kicking off
[11:34] <elky> so he's been PMing you all day anyway?
[11:34] <ikonia> from when I called him out about it yes, 
[11:34] <ikonia> just to be clear 
[11:35] <ikonia> just started pm'ing me again
[11:36] <elky> @mark Grant-A for future reference when/if he decides to follow the appeals process properly, rather than harrassing ikonia in PM 
[11:37] <elky> ikonia, i take it you're either ignoring or just repeating the appeals url
[11:38] <ikonia> pretty much
[11:38] <ikonia> I explained -ops is publicly logged - as you know, this is where we caught him snipping the logs, then suggested he follow the appeals process
[11:45] <elky> ikonia, yep, so i got him to specify it was not the language, or the manner of magnetron's comment, but rather that it was calling him out for talking bull.
[11:45] <ikonia> exactly
[11:45] <ikonia> that's his problems
[11:45] <ikonia> he is requesting I call him in in PM 
[11:45] <elky> o.O
[11:45] <ikonia> I've explained next time he will be banned if I catch him as that was the only action that worked in #ubuntuforums
[11:46] <ikonia> maybe harsh, and I accept that
[11:46] <elky> some people need tough love.
[14:31] <bazhang> he returns!
[14:33]  * genii hands bazhang a large mug of coffee
[14:34] <genii> Got back from vacation late last night :)
[14:34] <bazhang> genii, we missed you :)
[14:34] <bazhang> ah nice :)
[14:34] <genii> bazhang: Coffee deficiencies? ;)
[14:34] <bazhang> hehe
[14:59] <bazhang> hellscream incoming to -ot
[15:27] <bazhang> darthanubis in #k seems a bit..not sure of the right word
[15:27] <bazhang> combative?
[15:32] <bazhang> septox_, how may we help you
[15:33] <septox_> hi all, just want to ask if i can get ubot im our loco channel ? our channel is #ubuntu-cm
[15:33] <septox_> bazhang: yes
[15:33] <bazhang> septox_, #ubuntu-irc would be a good place to ask for that
[15:34] <septox_> bazhang: ah ok
[16:10] <Myrtti> anything else we can help you with, septox_?
[17:17] <bazhang> miik, hi
[17:17] <miik> hi
[17:17] <bazhang> miik, this is smallfoot, correct?
[17:17] <miik> hmm you are smart lol
[17:17] <miik> yes but its a secret, because im undercover so nobody can know that
[17:18] <miik> how did you know my secret?
[17:18] <bazhang> miik, you are using miik without the cloak smallfoot to ban evade?
[17:18] <miik> i dont even know if im banned anywhere
[17:18] <miik> im lazy to identify with password
[17:19] <miik> and im not even talking in the #ubuntu channel, but xchat joins it on autojoin
[17:19] <miik> im talking in the other room
[17:20] <bazhang> yes you are banned in #ubuntu
[17:20] <smallfoot-> oh, i didnt even know that
[17:21] <smallfoot-> but i dont speak on that channel for weeks, but it joins it on autojoin
[17:21] <bazhang> also in #ubuntu+1 and #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:22] <bazhang> and several other places as miik
[17:22] <smallfoot-> oh
[17:22] <bazhang> remove them from autojoin
[17:22] <smallfoot-> i was in #ubuntu+1 some days ago, cuz i run karmic now
[17:22] <smallfoot-> but on #ubuntu-offtopic, i hasnt been in that place for like months... maybe almost a year
[17:23] <bazhang> no matter. changing nicks, not using cloak, changing IP is ban evasion
[17:23] <smallfoot-> its not my fault i change iP, cuz i didnt do it, its my internet that do it by itself
[17:23] <smallfoot-> and if i use other nick, i dont think ican use cloak
[17:23] <smallfoot-> also if im ban, and i want goto a room where they locked the door, of course i will change nick lol
[17:24] <bazhang> just remove from autojoin then.
[17:24] <smallfoot-> but right now, i dont even care about #ubuntu, cuz its for jaunty and i have karmic
[17:24] <smallfoot-> ok
[17:24] <bazhang> including #ubuntu+1
[17:24] <smallfoot-> and #ubuntu+1, i only want go there if i have problem, and i dont have problem now. but if i do get problem, and its locked, then i will change nick and join anyways
[17:25] <smallfoot-> ubuntu+1 isnt on autojoin, it was ubuntu who made it autojoin on #ubuntu by itself, not me
[17:25] <bazhang> you know you are banned in #ubuntu+1 .
[17:25] <bazhang> yet you say you will change nick to get in nonetheless
[17:26] <smallfoot-> yes, but i dont wanna go there, cuz karmic works good, and i have no problem (only gdm havent arrive, and not firefox3.5), but if i have problem, i will go there anyways and change nick
[17:27] <smallfoot-> im not a stupid, if they close the door, then i change nick its like change clothes, and they dont know its me
[17:27] <bazhang> ban evasion is a very bad choice smallfoot- /miik
[17:28] <bazhang> not hard to figure out is you as a matter of fact smallfoot- /miik
[17:29] <smallfoot-> why its bad idea? i think its good idea, then i can enter the room even if its locked
[17:29] <smallfoot-> how can you figure it out?
[17:34] <bazhang> smallfoot-, /miik by your commentary in those channels.
[17:35] <smallfoot-> oh
[17:35] <smallfoot-> i dont even remember what i say lol
[17:35] <bazhang> !staff | smallfoot- / miik continuing ban evasion
[17:36] <nalioth> bazhang: self-admittedly, too  :)
[17:36] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please exit all the channels you are banned in currently
[17:37] <nalioth> smallfoot-: ban evasion is not acceptable on freenode
[17:37] <bazhang> nalioth, yes
[17:42] <smallfoot-> nalioth, i have no idea which channels i am banned on
[17:42] <smallfoot-> nalioth, i dont think im in any banned channel now
[17:43] <bazhang> smallfoot-, you were just removed from #ubuntu . you have been ban evading using miik
[17:44] <smallfoot-> bazhang, no i wasnt intentionally evading. ubuntu is configured to autojoin it. i didnt even want to join that channel.
[17:47] <bazhang> smallfoot-, also in #ubuntu+1 , #ubuntu-artwork 
[17:47] <smallfoot-> #ubuntu-artwork? im banned there too? i been there like once this year
[17:47] <smallfoot-> #ubuntu+1, yeah i was there some weeks ago, like once or twice...
[17:53] <bazhang> smallfoot-, just to clarify: you are banned in those channels. 
[17:54] <smallfoot-> ok
[17:54] <smallfoot-> i dont care so much, i never goto those channels anyways, if i was there by autojoin, i never talk
[17:54] <bazhang> kindly do not ban evade anymore.
[17:57] <bazhang> smallfoot-, okay? please do not ban evade any further.
[17:58] <smallfoot-> ok but what i do if im banned and need help?
[17:58] <smallfoot-> im like houdini, i can join any room, nobody can lock me out
[17:59] <bazhang> smallfoot-, behave for some time and the bans may be reviewed. continuing to ban evade means they will not be removed.
[18:00] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines smallfoot- please read these
[18:03] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please bookmark those sites, and review them carefully, and no more ban evading.
[18:04] <smallfoot-> look you're not the boss guy of the internet
[18:04] <smallfoot-> in internet anyone can do anything, cuz its free
[18:04] <smallfoot-> i dont think i will goto your ubuntu room, cuz i dont wanna go there
[18:04] <smallfoot-> but if i wanted to go there, i would do so
[18:08] <bazhang> smallfoot-, have you bookmarked those sites?
[18:12] <bazhang> smallfoot-, thanks for joining this channel to discuss; please read those site, and no further ban evasion.
[18:15] <bazhang> smallfoot-, please don't idle here, thanks.
[18:23] <bazhang> nalioth, thanks
[19:49] <Pricey> I can't log into ubottu atm?
[19:55] <ikonia> Pricey: it was a bit off for me last night
[22:00] <erUSUL> seen the spamer in #ubuntu ?
[22:03] <Seeker`> erUSUL: who?
[22:03] <erUSUL> he used various nicks in a row same ip 
[22:03] <Seeker`> such as?
[22:03] <erUSUL> done that in my channel #ubuntu-es
[22:04] <erUSUL> jebus__ fjebus_ mad1
[22:04] <erUSUL> those three an two other ones
[22:04] <Seeker`> if they have been doing it in lots of channels, they are probably k-lined
[22:05] <erUSUL> Seeker`: well in my channel it was to insult people of #supremos i suspect that the message in #ubuntu was to embarras them 
[22:06] <erUSUL> Seeker`: to inasult the people that owns the blogs linked i mean (and are the ops in #supremos)
[22:07] <erUSUL> Seeker`: also note that he/she used various ip's on the floods
[22:08] <erUSUL> this range *!*@201.250.* Telefonica Argentina
[22:09] <Seeker`> cnat really ban a whole IP block like that
[22:09] <erUSUL> i know just fyi
[22:15] <erUSUL> well i part. Good Night
[23:01] <bluekuja> hi
[23:01] <bluekuja> can operators add tags on freenode now?
[23:02] <bluekuja> my freenode registration expired so my tag is no more active, someone can suggest me something to do?
[23:06] <Flannel> bluekuja: you mean your nick?
[23:07] <bluekuja> I mean ubuntu member tag
[23:07] <Flannel> Ah, cloak.
[23:07] <bluekuja> yes, cloak
[23:07] <bluekuja> that's it
[23:07] <Flannel> You'll need to complete registration for that first (and make sure all the other stuff is done), and then you can ask in #ubuntu-irc
[23:08] <bluekuja> ask to who?
[23:08] <Flannel> Just ask, someone who can do it will be around
[23:08] <bluekuja> ok
[23:08] <bluekuja> one more thing
[23:08] <Flannel> but first make sure your account is all set up with an alt and stuff
[23:09] <bluekuja> I added a wrong email on my account and now I can't activate it
[23:09] <bluekuja> can you remove my registration?
[23:09] <bluekuja> so I can do it with the right email address
[23:10] <Flannel> You'll need to talk to freenode staff for that, I think.
[23:10] <Flannel> I don't know if it'll time-out if you don't, or what.
[23:10] <bluekuja> yes, one day
[23:10] <bluekuja> can you suggest me the channel for freenode staff
[23:11] <Flannel> `/stats p` will show you the on-duty staff
[23:11] <bluekuja> thanks
[23:57] <Pricey> bluekuja: Sorry if I didn't make it clear earlier, you need to be a membe rof hte ubuntumembers launchpad group for me to give you an ubuntu/member cloak here.
[23:57] <bluekuja> i know
[23:57] <bluekuja> :)
[23:57] <bluekuja> and that's why I sent the mail