[00:00] <psypointer> -acodec copy only copies the first soundtrack
[00:00] <smerz> 10.0.2.2 yeah my bad :D:
[00:01] <dayo> saif: are u using NAT for your guest?
[00:01] <saif> dayo : yes
[00:01] <laura_> hi !
[00:01] <saif> dayo : the the host ip is ... ?
[00:01] <dayo> what does ipconfig show?
[00:01] <smerz> saif: all i can tell you is that the default gateway (10.0.2.2 most likely) is your host OS. you should be able to ping and access any other services that your host OS is running (such as apache maybe)
[00:01] <sebsebseb> laura_: hi
[00:02] <sebsebseb> !welcome | laura_
[00:02] <mobi-sheep> Anybody expert with ALSA sounds + Command line?  I can't get sounds to work and I have no GUI.
[00:02] <saif> dayo : ip :192.168.5.1  subnet:class c default gateway= host ip
[00:02] <adi__> mobi-sheep, type in terminal alsamixer
[00:03] <adi__> mobi-sheep, if not working type gstreamer-properties
[00:03] <wahnfrieden> my mouse acceleration settings are messed up. when i move my pointer too quickly, it stops moving at all, like there's some threshold
[00:03] <wahnfrieden> is there some way i can reset the mouse configuration? I think it was a bad /etc/hal/fdi/policies/ setting
[00:03] <losher>  psypointer: check out 'mapping channels' on http://howto-pages.org/ffmpeg  Maybe it will help....
[00:03] <dayo> saif: is the Network Adapter of guest enabled?
[00:04] <mobi-sheep> adi__: I have Master + Headphone on Green 00.
[00:04] <saif> dayo : yes
[00:04] <dAnon> is 8.10 much diffrent from 9.04?
[00:04] <KillGorack> hey, I  have 2 monitors..  when I play a game it's on both screens... how do I fix that? (nvidia settings somewhere)
[00:04] <xavi^> .org
[00:04] <adi__> mobi-sheep, try to grow up
[00:05] <losher> dAnon: not really. Check the release notes for details....
[00:05] <KillGorack> got it "seperate x screen"
[00:05] <dayo> saif: i'm wondering why u got a 192.168. IP
[00:05] <adi__> mobi-sheep, rise up with jog buttons on keyboard
[00:05] <Dr_Willis> Killeroid:  twinview lets you drag windows/resize them across both displays..
[00:05] <saif> dayo : i used to
[00:06] <Killeroid> Dr_Willis: ????
[00:06] <saif> dayo : i mean that is what i know only
[00:06] <mobi-sheep> adi__: Master (100) and PCM (100<>100) is already "rised" to the max.
[00:06] <adi__> mobi-sheep, and dooesn't work?
[00:06] <dayo> saif: well, i can't figure out the problem. maybe try #vbox ?
[00:07] <oOarthurOo> Hi... I have associated *.xls files with excel, which I have installed via wine. However, double clicking an xls file only opens excel, it doesn't open the file I clicked.
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> Killeroid:  twinview  = one 'big' monitor.. seperate X displays '2 seperate monitors'
[00:07] <losher> psypointer: check out 'mapping channels' on http://howto-pages.org/ffmpeg  Maybe it will help....
[00:07] <saif> dayo ,smerz : thanx very much and i am really sorry
[00:07] <Heller_Barde> hi guys! I have a problem. My ubuntu server doesn't start up again after an update... It freezes at "Starting Up..." right after GRUB. how can i make that part of the boot more verbose, so i can see more closely why it hangs?
[00:07] <smerz> saif: could you please post the output of  "ipconfig" from guest OS?. no need to apologize :)
[00:07] <mobi-sheep> adi__: That's right.  I have been frustrated with this for some hours now.  This is for XBMC too.
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> Killeroid:  ive rarely seen a need for Seperate X displays.
[00:07] <dayo> saif: u're welcome. too bad we weren't able to help.
[00:07] <Killeroid> Dr_Willis: ???? what are you talking about?
[00:07] <Dr_Willis> Killeroid:  misstaken nick completion. :) lol.
[00:07] <saif> smerz : i `ll give give u the link on pastebin
[00:07] <Killeroid> Dr_Willis: oh, ok
[00:07] <saif> dayo : thanx again
[00:08] <dayo> saif: u're welcome :-)
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> Killeroid:  he left as i hit tab it seems. :)
[00:08] <smerz> saif: good thinking. dont post that stuff here ;). either pastebin or screenshot or something
[00:08] <samosa> er, can i pm someone i have hardware question?
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> samosa:  just ask the channel
[00:08] <erUSUL> !pm | samosa
[00:09] <samosa> I ran memtest86 and got 88 errors, my question is, i am running e7200 @ 3.00ghz , 2x1gig ram @948mhz.....I need to get new memory would it be wise to get 1066mhz ram or 800mhz....(I got 800mhz before which i think is what made it corrupted....)
[00:09] <telephinz> just tried to activate wifi card under Hardware drivers it said it was using another version of the driver then after activate said that it had been recently deactivated but was still in use
[00:09] <adi__> mobi-sheep, try too gstreamer-properties in terminal, maybe can help for u
[00:09] <saif> smerz: http://pastebin.com/m582976fd
[00:10] <mobi-sheep> adi__: gstreamer-properties not installed.  Should I go ahead and install it?  (If you truly think it'll help me).
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> samosa:  you may want to try removing/cleaning/reseating the ram  and retesting/switch ram/sockets. and try ram in just 1 socket.. I had a MB once that one ram socket was bad. no mater what i put in it.
[00:10] <MK13> samosa, i would prolly get the 1066, just to make sure the ram could handle what was sent to it
[00:10] <smerz> saif: thanks. and 192.168.5.1 is not pingable? second question if the network settings are on NAT in VBox can you browse the web from guest OS ?
[00:10] <adi__> mobi-sheep, install with synaptic
[00:10] <Heller_Barde> hi guys! I have a problem. My ubuntu server doesn't start up again after an update... It freezes at "Starting Up..." right after GRUB. how can i make that part of the boot more verbose, so i can see more closely why it hangs ?
[00:11] <saif> smerz : i cant ping in either cases and i dont have internet on the guest
[00:11] <mobi-sheep> adi__: sudo aptitude (will be sufficent).  I should point out I have no GUI.
[00:11] <smerz> Heller_Barde: ctrl + alt + f1 i think
[00:11] <Heller_Barde> smerz: in GRUB?
[00:11] <adi__> mobi-sheep, apt-get install packet
[00:11] <smerz> Heller_Barde: after grub. that should give you the verbose output
[00:11] <netsurf3> is there a netbook remix channel?
[00:11] <Dr_Willis> Heller_Barde:  edit the grub lines (hit e i think) and use noquiet at the end. there may be a 'verbose' option you can append also.
[00:11] <Heller_Barde> smerz: I don't even get to the splashscreen
[00:11] <Heller_Barde> Dr_Willis: oh thanks
[00:12] <samosa> ok thanks
[00:12] <Don_Miguel> Heller_Barde, I have the same problem with my 8.04 desktop lately ...
[00:12] <smerz> saif: thats weird. if you set it to NAT in vbox then you should get inet. well I really dont know whats the issue then sorry :(
[00:12] <telephinz> after update to 9.04 atheros ar5007 card not working anymore tried reactivation of driver through Hardware drivers with no luck
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> Heller_Barde:  i normally use 'nosplash nofb verbose noquiet' but some of those optons may be incorrect/redundant. Ive not messed with it in ages.
[00:13] <saif> smerz : no problem ...i `ll search and if i solved it i `ll tell u :D
[00:13] <Heller_Barde> Dr_Willis: thanks, but it seems that my computer hangs even before these options even apply
[00:13] <Don_Miguel> Dr_Willis, that sounds like a good place to start
[00:13] <smerz> Heller_Barde: well i dunno. i think ctrl + alt + f1  right after grub should get you the verbose output, ought to be quick then or something ;D
[00:13] <Heller_Barde> smerz: will try, thanks
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Heller_Barde:  thats very odd then.. its hanging befor  the kernel even loads.. or soon after it loads eh.
[00:13] <Dr_Willis> Heller_Barde:  it only has the one kernel entry in the menus?
[00:13]  * Don_Miguel goes to look for more info
[00:14] <Heller_Barde> Dr_Willis: yep... only one, it's a very young ubuntu installation
[00:14] <MK13> is there a way to take a partition out of an extended volume?
[00:14] <thesandman> Does anyone know  how do you defrag on ubuntu/linux?
[00:14] <smerz> thesandman: there is no need to defrag the linux file systems
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> thesandman:  thers rarely ever a need to deffrag ext2/3/4 filesystems
[00:14] <vigo> How do I find where the or a screen-saver thing is so I can edit it?
[00:15] <soulwarp> how can i download this picture using the command line http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/93/l_5b94f471ec904e7b88c26d6072d2af17.jpg
[00:15] <GERSON> HI
[00:15] <adi__> vigo, start-- system--screensaver
[00:15] <thesandman> well how do you formatt the system?
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> soulwarp:  use the wget command.
[00:15] <smerz> soulwarp: wget url
[00:15] <soulwarp> thanks
[00:15] <GERSON> A GIRL IM PERU
[00:15] <vigo> adi__: Thank you
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> thesandman:  you format a filesystem with the mkfs commands.  thats not related to 'defragging'
[00:15] <pzn> Hi. I just buy an original DVD and it is not playing in ubuntu. I already played protected DVDs before (css). This DVD seems to fail in decrypting. any hints?
[00:15] <MK13> soulwarp 'wget URL'
[00:15] <adi__> vigo, or display settings
[00:15] <GERSON> IM MAN
[00:15] <MK13> oops, too late
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> pzn:  rip it to video.avi perhaps? i always seem to do that.
[00:16] <thesandman> Dr_Willis: I know it's not but I wanted to know that also
[00:16] <GERSON> ANY GRILD TALKING
[00:16] <vigo> adi__: I want to edit the Matrix one and insert AYB stuff into it.
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> GERSON:  they are all in #puppylinux
[00:16] <smerz> pzn: there are css decryption packages. not sure if thats what you need though
[00:16] <soulwarp> heh
[00:16] <losher> !es | GERSON
[00:16] <adi__> vigo, same thing, right there u'll find all u need
[00:16] <GERSON> HI IM PERU
[00:17] <pzn> Dr_Willis, smerz: seems not to work... it seems to use a newer encryption, not css...
[00:17] <KnePiG32> hi all, i installed wubi on my computer and put it on C: After using ubuntu a wile my file system got corrupted and the computer strugle to work. Anyhow i manage to fix the computer by uninstalling wubi. Any suggestions why that happend? Wubi should work fine on same partition. Btw my OS is vista :(
[00:17] <vigo> adi__: Thank you kindly. Now fun time!
[00:17] <melhisedek> can you make xchat open links as I click them? Not to have to right click on link and chose "Open in browser"
[00:17] <adi__> Dr_Willis, try mplayer
[00:17] <smerz> pzn: some info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[00:17] <soulwarp> !caps | GERSON
[00:17] <smerz> pzn oh then i really dont know ;(
[00:17] <GERSON> WORK
[00:17] <GERSON> IN PERU
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> pzn:  id  check google for that exact video title.. and try the k9copy and dvdrip programs.. I have to wonder how a video can have 'new' encryption.. and still play in all these old dvd players...
[00:17] <GERSON> TRAVEL PERU
[00:17] <Patrickaaaa> does anyone here use netsus
[00:18] <GERSON> IM SEEKING PERON WORK
[00:19] <MK13> Dr_Willis, i never understood why copy programs couldnt just act as a dvd player and output frames to a file instead of showing them O.o
[00:19] <thesandman> Dr_Willis: I have that a similar problem my self
[00:19] <soulwarp> GERSON: stop sending me messages
[00:20] <Jeruvy> MK13: no, you'll need to rebuild it.  But ubuntu doesn't care what kind of partition it is providing its valid so I'm not sure why you're asking the question?
[00:20] <shaullx> how can i install a compiler for c++? when i try i get this error
[00:20] <shaullx> Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 (20090420.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press [Enter].
[00:20] <shaullx> but my ubuntu cd is in :(
[00:20] <adi__> shaullx, change the dvd unit or try to install from a external unit
[00:21] <GERSON> ANY GIRLD TI TSLKING
[00:21] <shaullx> how do i do that
[00:21] <GERSON> HI
[00:21] <kef0902> anyone manage to get Juniper Network Connect working on 64 bit 9.04?
[00:21] <shaullx> wait u mean the dvd burner?
[00:21] <shaullx> the device?
[00:21] <netsurf3> Dr_Willis, i have some weirdness with ubuntu netbook remix. i have been trying to optimise the boot time of the system. bootchart tells me that the system halts for 5 seconds while running a process called resume. where is the best place to ask about this? is there a dedicated UNR channel?
[00:21] <adi__> shaullx, if u have one just plug the usb and done
[00:21] <MK13> Jeruvy, cause i have a partition in an extended volume from when i had too many primary partitions and just want to have all primary partitions
[00:21] <adi__> shaullx, yes, device
[00:21] <space_cadet> scunizi, deany   remember me complaining about my vm ubuntu install freezing?
[00:21] <shaullx> the device works..
[00:21] <shaullx> i can read the cd
[00:21] <Jeruvy> MK13: you can only have 4
[00:22] <shaullx> it doesnt labeled Ubuntu 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release amd64 thought
[00:22] <arivanna> Does anyone know how to sync an iphone 2G with Ubuntu? Amarok?
[00:22] <adi__> shaullx, try to rewrite the ubuntu on a virgin cd
[00:22] <shaullx> i just burned it
[00:22] <adi__> shaullx, at low speed
[00:22] <smerz> MK13: if you want more than 4 partitions you need to convert one of the 4 partitions into an extended partition. within that extended partition you can create more partitions
[00:22] <shaullx> i think it because of the label could it be?
[00:22] <space_cadet> scunizi, deany  I figured out ... when my download speeds > 1.1 MiB/s is when it happens..  i switched to the intel PRO/1000 MT Server and the problem seems to have left
[00:22] <adi__> shaullx, could be yes
[00:23] <Jeruvy> smerz: try and keep up eh ;)
[00:23] <MK13> smerz,... i had already done that... now i have less partitions and want to turn an extended into a primary
[00:23] <shaullx> what is the best image burner?
[00:23] <smerz> ah well while im here i try to help :o)
[00:23] <shaullx> :O
[00:23] <adi__> shaullx, did u make the checksum of the iso?
[00:23] <shaullx> no
[00:23] <Jeruvy> MK13: the best bet would be to image the partition, wipe it out, and recreate it as primary then restore it
[00:23] <smerz> MK13: ok so if you have 3 partitions now. you can create a new 4th partition but be sure it is an extended partition
[00:23] <EagleScreen> when I press Ctrl Alt Supr (Ctrl Alt Del) in tty, computer reboots. I know there is a config file to change this to shutdown instead, which file is it?
[00:24] <adi__> shaullx, 8X for a data cd, 4X audio cd
[00:24] <shaullx> i will now but what is the best image burner i can get?
[00:24] <MK13> Jeruvy,i was just about to ask that
[00:24] <adi__> shaullx, k3b on linux or nero in windoz
[00:24] <erUSUL> !best | shaullx
[00:24] <shaullx> k3b it is then:)
[00:24] <MK13> smerz, i dont want to create a new partition...
[00:25] <GArReT`> Hi guys.
[00:25] <GArReT`> Can you guys please help me
[00:25] <smerz> MK13: oh sorry. i thought you wanted more than 4 partitions. my bad then :)
[00:25] <adi__> shaullx, the easy one it's brasero
[00:25] <GArReT`> Version 7.10 Doenst have TCL pre-installed!
[00:25] <GArReT`> where can i get it?
[00:25] <smerz> !package tcl
[00:25] <Cream> GArReT`, Ubuntu has names
[00:25] <MK13> smerz, appreciate your enthusiasm tho :D
[00:25] <Cream> instead of numbers.
[00:25] <Jeruvy> !pm | GERSON
[00:26] <GArReT`> uhm... the cd is installing in my computer atm... i just know it is something about 7.10 i386
[00:26] <shaullx> nice i already have k3b installed :O
[00:26] <smerz> GArReT`: sudo apt-get install tcl
[00:26] <GArReT`> i did that
[00:26] <GArReT`> it says package not found! :(
[00:26] <smerz> hmm
[00:27] <Jeruvy> !info tcl
[00:27] <smerz> try "tcl8.4"
[00:27] <Cream> GArReT`, it is for eggdrop i suppose?
[00:27] <Jeruvy> !package tcltk-defaults
[00:27] <GArReT`> smerz, tried that and i tried tclx8.4 as well
[00:27] <GArReT`> same error
[00:28] <GArReT`> and yes Cream, it is for eggdrop
[00:28] <GERSON> ja
[00:28] <shaullx> adi_ how should i label the cd?
[00:28] <adi__> just let it blank
[00:28] <Jeruvy> GArReT`: try looking for 'tcl' in synaptic, you should find the packages easier.
[00:29] <GArReT`> is that a website or in Ubuntu?
[00:29] <Jeruvy> GArReT`: nope, 'accessories -> add/remove'
[00:29] <GArReT`> lol i've been there as well!
[00:29] <GArReT`> :(
[00:29] <Jeruvy> GArReT`: hmm ok one sec.
[00:30] <Cream> gardar
[00:30] <Cream> GArReT`, simply sudo apt-get install eggdrop
[00:30] <Cream> it'll install tcl along the way.
[00:30] <smerz> GArReT`: try "tclx8.3" that package exists in 6.04
[00:30] <adi__> GArReT`, try from terminal apt-get install tcl8.3 for me works
[00:31] <GArReT`> adi__, what version do you have?
[00:31] <smerz> or creams solution should give you the dependencies too
[00:31] <adi__> GArReT`, yes
[00:31] <GArReT`> and smerz, i really really did try that! it gives an error
[00:31] <Jeruvy> GArReT`: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/tcl
[00:31] <adi__> GArReT`, it's already installed nnow
[00:31] <GArReT`> I'll send you the error as soon as the fresh copy of ubuntu is installed onto my pc again
[00:31] <krzys-999> ubuntu shit
[00:32] <z3ro3x> I'm trying out a dark theme in gnome and no matter what colors I change the text to I can't seem to change the default dark blue for all URL's through out gnome.  Firfox is the only program that lets me change URL colors.  How do I change it for all of gnome?
[00:33] <smerz> GArReT`: i understand you tried "tclx8.4" but did you try the older version "tcl8.3" and/or "tcxl" ? my apologies for asking ;)
[00:33] <smerz> GArReT`: correction "tclx8.3" sorry
[00:33] <GArReT`> hmm.. no i dont remember trying..
[00:33] <shigutso> hi, I'm having a problem: I'm using Ubuntu 9.04 and when I use my wi-fi usb to connect to my PSP through ad-hoc, it connects, but when I run "ifconfig", it doesn't apper, only with "-a". Because of that, a program called xLink Kai isn't working properly. When I try "sudo ifconfig wlan up", it says "access denied". What can I do??
[00:33] <GArReT`> I will try this as soon as its done installing again... then you can see the errors i'm getting
[00:34] <smerz> alrighty :)
[00:34] <mick_laptop> hi everyone, i have done an upgrade on my box and now X is hosed. I tried: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but when I startx then the screen hangs (It hangs the computer, not just X)
[00:34] <adi__> z3ro3x, start--system-prefferences and take the third from top
[00:34] <lawrence> Hi all. I have been trying to correct a problem I am having with my display defaulting to 640*480 from 1024*768 fpr my nvidia geforce fx 5200. I have uninstalled and reinstalled the recommended 173 driver about a dozen times using the package manager and envyng. I have selected and unselected it from the hardware driver windows, used a different driver and all that - still no change. Help anyone? Thanks.
[00:34] <mick_laptop> ctrl+alt+backspace don't even work, any ideas? i'm guessing that it is a messed up video driver
[00:35] <aless12> hi, is there a way to free memory usage?. Apache is consuming a lot of memory so i killed it. But mamory remains used.
[00:35] <Adola> Can someone help me with SSHFS?
[00:35] <Adola> It keeps saying Mount point not empty
[00:35] <smerz> mick_laptop: it was removed in jaunty or newer X versions or smth
[00:35] <adi__> lawrence, try to push ctrl+alt and + buttons
[00:36] <losher> Adola: so *is* the mount point empty or not?
[00:36] <Kellerman> Adola: mountpoint exists ?
[00:36] <lawrence> adi: nothing happened
[00:36] <mick_laptop> aless12: use `top` to see what is taking up the memory and then use "k" to kill the process ID
[00:36] <Adola> losher: Both are empty.
[00:36] <mick_laptop> smerz: ok, how do i get it to work ;)
[00:36] <kef09021> anyone able to run Juniper Network Connect with 64 bit 9.04???
[00:37] <mick_laptop> Adola: just for the heck of it create another directory and mount it in there
[00:37] <z3ro3x> adi__, start--system-preferences ?
[00:37] <KillGorack> I have issues with the nvidia-settings dialogue.. I have 2 monitors,and want to separate them. Which I can do easily... however the "main" scren defaults to the incorrect screen... how can I change that??
[00:37] <losher> Adola: *both*? I thought we were talking about a single mount point?
[00:37] <adi__> z3ro3x, yes
[00:37] <smerz> mick_laptop: there is a patch to get the old behaviour back. i just dont know where it is :D maybe google or someone else here knows it
[00:38] <Adola> losher: yeah, sorry, only one mountpoint.
[00:38] <mick_laptop> smerz: you know how painful it is to find anything w/ links or w3m?
[00:38] <Adola> I want to copy files from my desktop to my laptop.
[00:38] <M1K3> KillGorack,explicitally set the size instead of having it as auto?
[00:38] <adi__> z3ro3x, search themes...or something like this there. in it u can change the font and colors
[00:38] <z3ro3x> adi__, Do I type that in shell because it came up command not found.
[00:38] <losher> Adola: and empty when checked with 'ls -al' ?
[00:39] <smerz> mick_laptop: i guess not. but i dont know where that patch is. so my guess is as good as yours ;)
[00:39] <Adola> Hidden files?
[00:39] <adi__> z3ro3x, no. in taskbar u have applications, resources and system
[00:39] <Adola> losher: Hidden files?
[00:39] <adi__> in system---preff. and look in there
[00:39] <losher> Adola: yes, hidden files....
[00:39] <Adola> Yes, all are gone.
[00:39] <Adola> Wait.
[00:39] <Adola> I've got a new error.
[00:39] <mick_laptop> smerz: ok, any idea what i should be looking for?
[00:39] <Kellerman> it's interesting
[00:39] <mick_laptop> smerz: what i should be "googling"
[00:40] <Adola> It's saying fusermount: failed to access mountpoint /home/adam/sshfs: Permission denied.  But, I have permission set to full on that folder.
[00:40] <smerz> mick_laptop: no :o( maybe ask kindly here if someone knows where to find it. other wise "CTRL ALT BACKSLASH" sounds like a good place to start
[00:40] <z3ro3x> adi__,  You mean System -> Preferences -> Appearance ?
[00:40] <lawrence> adi: display settings only give me 640*480
[00:40] <adi__> z3ro3x, yes
[00:40] <Heller_Barde> what do i have to be careful about to reinstall grub? should grub-install /dev/sda do the trick ( no i don't care about data-loss, everything is safely backupped )
[00:40] <shaullx> why are my compiz fusion effect are not enabled on startup/
[00:40] <shaullx> ?
[00:40] <Kellerman> Adola: you, but maybe not user that do mount
[00:40] <lawrence> the same with the nvidia x server settings tool
[00:40] <adi__> z3ro3x, i have the system in italian, i don't know how it's in english
[00:41] <bacon1989> hello, does anyone know how I can go about getting more specific debug information for the USB enumeration process of a USB connection? dmesg dosn't provide enough information
[00:41] <tiyowan> Heller_Barde: To install it in the correct location.
[00:41] <Kellerman> Adola:  i mean fusermount
[00:41] <SunTapyr> lol
[00:41] <SunTapyr> fusermount
[00:41] <Adola> Kellerman: How do I add it?
[00:41] <Heller_Barde> tiyowan: what can i do wrong as long as i get the right drive
[00:41] <thedarkone> hey all
[00:41] <Kellerman> sec
[00:42] <thedarkone> on my msi mother board it has a front audio
[00:42] <tiyowan> Heller_Barde: Besides from installing it in a partition's boot record instead of the MBR, not much.
[00:42] <lawrence> adi: appearance does not allow you to change the display resolution, or am I misunderstanding?
[00:42] <thedarkone> if i hook that up i get no sound from the back
[00:42] <z3ro3x> adi__, I tried that.  Under the Theme tab and Customize at the bottom.  Then Colors.  It gives you 4 options for Background and Text and none of these have any effect on the color of URLs on web sites.  I don't mean the URL box in the browser I mean the color of the text of links.
[00:42] <adi__> lawrence, no
[00:42] <SunTapyr> rofl
[00:42] <mick_laptop> smerz: i think i found something -- they say you have to remove xserver-xorg -- then reinstall for it to work
[00:42] <Kellerman> Adola: 1st, try to give rwx to all users, chmod a+rwx
[00:42]  * mick_laptop crosses fingers
[00:42] <KillGorack> MIK3,ok I've set the "main"monitor at its native rez.. with an absolute position of 0,0.. then the secondary monitor at its native rez, with a position  "right" of I'll try that again.
[00:43] <shaullx> anyone?
[00:43] <Kellerman> Adola: then don't forget to fix that
[00:43] <smerz> mick_laptop: that sounds drastic and im doubtful but that may just be me
[00:43] <adi__> z3ro3x, yes, understand, there is all u can have, nothing more
[00:43] <soulwarp> !lol | SunTapyr
[00:43] <mick_laptop> smerz: btw, i already mentioned ctrl+alt backspace didn't work (any key combo didn't work)
[00:44] <mick_laptop> after using startx everytghing freezes
[00:44] <semper> ni
 why are my compiz fusion effect are not enabled on startup/
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[00:44] <M1K3> KillGorack,that is what i do to go into dual screen :)
[00:44] <smerz> well mick i gotta boot windows now to update my firmware on my mobile. hopefully it fixes an issue of my own
[00:44] <bacon1989> mick_laptop: they changed that key combination
[00:44] <adi__> thedarkone, it's namedd bypass. if u plugin in back u don't have sound in front. must work in this way
[00:44] <smerz> i'll press ctrl alt backspace now. if i like timeout it has worked ;D
[00:44] <smerz> ok it doesn't work :P
[00:45] <smerz> as i said heh
[00:45] <smerz> gotta go now. good luck though
[00:45] <KillGorack> mik3, it's being finiky
[00:45] <bacon1989> mick_laptop: the new key comboination is alt-SysRg + k
[00:45] <KillGorack> brb
[00:45] <xim_> is there an easy way to save a file from an http server without using a browser like firefox
[00:46] <xim_> assuming i know the url?
[00:46] <M1K3> xim_, wget url
[00:46] <mick_laptop> bacon1989: what?
[00:46] <adi__> wget
[00:46] <adi__> :)
[00:46] <xim_> mik3 adi__ thanks
[00:46] <tiyowan> xim: wget -c url
[00:46] <mick_laptop> bacon1989: what key prey tell is SysRg
[00:47] <aguitel> how upgrade firefox to firefox 3.5 with repo ?
[00:47] <tiyowan> zim: -c option = auto-resume
[00:47] <bacon1989> mick_laptop: you wre trying to restart the xserver with ctrl-alt-baclspace. that was removed in jaunty
[00:47] <xim_> tiyowan: cool thanks!
[00:47] <bacon1989> mick_laptop: they changed that key combination to alt-sysreq-k
[00:47] <mick_laptop> bacon1989: know who removed that?
[00:47] <adi__> bacon1989, and change the rezolution with a shortcut?
[00:47] <M1K3> i miss xchat while not on ubuntu D:
[00:47] <mick_laptop> ah i now see that key
[00:47] <lwells> I just ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5", but it did not replace the previous version of firefox and did not but it in the applications menu, why?
[00:47] <KillGorack> mik3, still when I get back in it's all reversed the main screen is the incorrect screen...
[00:48] <M1K3> KillGorack,sometime i have to go back and forth clicking "main" until it does correctly
[00:48] <bacon1989> no, i don't
[00:48] <KillGorack> mik3,click main? where is that?
[00:48] <lwells> Is it not working for Ubuntu yet?
[00:48] <tiyowan> mick_laptop: you can re-enable ctrl-alt-backspace
[00:49] <mick_laptop> i hate it when someone breaks expected functionality (for over 10 years i've used that key combo)
[00:49] <bacon1989> yeah, i don't know why either
[00:49] <M1K3> KillGorack, or what ever button it is to set the default monitor at 0,0; I can't go into detail b/c i am on Vista atm :(
[00:49] <adi__> bacon1989, there is a shortcut to change the resolution like before with alt ctrl + ?
[00:49] <GArReT`> Vista sucks more then XP
[00:49] <bacon1989> it was claimed the key combination was messing with some netbooks due to the different keyboard layouts
[00:49] <tiyowan> mick_laptop: open a terminal, sudo dontzap --disable
[00:49] <KillGorack> MIK3, once you do the "seperate" x-screen" off.. that check box goes away...
[00:50] <adi__> GArReT`, right
[00:50] <bacon1989> but why not make thier netbooks an excpetion then?
[00:50] <scunizi> mick_laptop: the rationalle was "accidental" implementation of the formentioned key combo.. DOH!
[00:50] <bacon1989> just add it to the netbook release
[00:50] <tiyowan> mick_laptop sudo apt-get install dontzap first
[00:50] <purepain> mick_laptop sudo apt-get install dontzap && sudo dontzap --disable
[00:50] <purepain> should do the trick
[00:51] <MK13> KillGorack, i am about to switch to ubuntu to help you out, brb
[00:51] <Linux-Rookie> hello ppl! can u tell me how to change the logonscreen and startup sound
[00:51] <Linux-Rookie> ??
[00:51] <scunizi> purepain: why would you --disable ??  doesn't that disable the install of dontzap?
[00:51] <KillGorack> aight
[00:52] <tiyowan> mick_laptop: what purepain said
[00:52] <Linux-Rookie> startup / logon
[00:52] <tiyowan> scunizi: "dontzap the xserver when ctrl-alt-backspace is pressed" disable to disable
[00:53] <purepain> indeed :D
[00:53] <scunizi> tiyowan: --disable to disable ctrl+alt+backspace?  then why instlal dontzap to begin with?
[00:53] <scunizi> *install
[00:53] <mralexandro> i am not able to Enabling SHMConfig
[00:53] <tiyowan> scunizi: because dontzap is a convenient utility that edits the option in your x.org conf file
[00:53] <bacon1989> disable the zapping of that combination I guess
[00:53] <bacon1989> lol
[00:53] <tiyowan> scunizi: you don't need to install dontzap, you could add in the option into your x.org conf file manually
[00:54] <Linux-Rookie> hello ppl! can u tell me how to change the logonscreen and startup / logon sound??
[00:54] <tiyowan> scunizi: Section "ServerFlags" Option "DontZap" "false" EndSection
[00:54] <mralexandro> can i get help to enable SHMConfig in ubuntu 8.04. i do not know how to properly edit the xorg.conf file.
[00:54] <adi__> scunizi, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[00:54] <mokkan> hey, i removed my old Sound Blaster Live! and installed an Audigy 2, and now i don't have any sound... what should i do?
[00:55] <scunizi> tiyowan: that I understand .. and the install of dontzap edits xorg to restore the older key combo.. but then --disable removes the old key combo .. or am I backwards on this?
[00:55] <tiyowan> scunizi: --disable instructs the dontzap utility to -insert- the "dontzap" "false" option in your x.org conf file.
[00:56] <tiyowan> scunizi: it is enabled by default in the new x.org, so you have to explicitly put in the option to disable it
[00:56] <scunizi> tiyowan: ah.. I just looked at the link adi__ gave me.. and my "logic" thinking was reversed.. I understand now..
[00:57] <tiyowan> scunizi: :)
[00:57] <KillGorack> anyone here have knowledge of dual monitors (separate X screens) and knowing how to switch the monitors around?
[00:58] <TheNewGuy> Hi, I need some assistance with java.  Can any one help?
[00:58] <TheNewGuy> :-D
[00:58] <tiyowan> !ask | TheNewGuy
[00:58] <scunizi> KillGorack: nvidia?  and weren't you on a day or so ago looking to be able to move an open window from one screen to the other?
[00:58] <MK13> KillGorack, u there?
[00:58] <KillGorack> scunizi, no, I was not..
[00:58] <KillGorack> mik3 yea
[00:59] <scunizi> KillGorack: k.. just wondered.. with nvidia dual monitor is pretty easy
[01:00] <Kellerman> bye all
[01:00] <Paranoidi> any large packages that are safe to drop out? I'm running out of upgrade space on my eee ...
[01:00] <MK13> KillGorack, are you goingserperate x screens, or twin view?
[01:00] <KillGorack> I have the physical monitors set up.. (larger main one" to the left of the smaller one.. I have the larger ones position set as absolute 0, 0.. and the smaller one set as "right of"
[01:00] <KillGorack> seperate!!
[01:00] <TheNewGuy> i have the latest java in stalled on the latest umbutu.  I am trying to download a java ap and when I open the down load window it suggests a file to associate with my download.  the one that it suggests is wrong that the download fails.   what file do I need to associate it with.  I assume the Java exe, but I'm the new guy and don't really know.
[01:00] <mazda01> i can't figure out how to enable compiz  with emerald. i have no window manager after I enable compiz in the appearance tab.
[01:00] <MK13> i use twin view :O
[01:00] <KillGorack> MK13, separate
[01:01] <MK13> KillGorack, i use twinview
[01:01] <Shadowboss> some speaks spanish?
[01:01] <MK13> KillGorack, so i dunno about sep x
[01:01] <tiyowan> !es | Shadowboss
[01:01] <KillGorack> how do you keep games from NOT taking up both screens?
[01:01] <scunizi> KillGorack: using xinerama?
[01:01] <purepain> mazda01 emerald --replace in terminal
[01:01] <KillGorack> that is off
[01:01] <Shadowboss> ok
[01:01] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: What extension does the file you're trying to download have?
[01:01] <KillGorack> scunizi that option os not checked.. not sure what it os
[01:01] <KillGorack> is*
[01:01] <TheNewGuy> jnlp
[01:02] <KillGorack> I may have larger issues...list to the left X Screen 0 is the smaller screen, but under the GPU 0 tree it has that same monitor listed as CRT-1 (its not even a CRT)
[01:02] <adi__> Paranoidi, try cleaning system... or reinstall the system on first ssd and the /home on second ssd the 16gb
[01:02] <scunizi> KillGorack: pre change of Xorg. and on older nvidia drivers back when xorg was hand configured, xinerama worked great for seperate dual monitors
[01:02] <Paranoidi> adi__: tried cleaning (apt-get clean, janitor) and home is on 16gb ssd
[01:02] <scunizi> KillGorack: is this an nvidia card or what?
[01:03] <adi__> Paranoidi, it's all u can do
[01:03] <KillGorack> scunizi, I'm not awesome at configuring stuff.. I'd probably just get back to windows before something like that happenend
[01:03] <TheNewGuy> :-(
[01:03] <KillGorack> yea.. 9400GT
[01:03] <adi__> more then this...? uninstall progs u don't need
[01:03] <kellyh> Killeroid: is the monitor coming up as CRT-1 connected by VGA?
[01:03] <scunizi> KillGorack: and are you using the drivers provided by ubuntu or did you install drivers direct from nvidia?
[01:03] <KillGorack> Yea.. thats why it says CRT?
[01:03] <furrySatan> is anyone familiar with intel video cards + ubuntu?
[01:04] <jackstraw> I have a question. I am trying to play multiplayer games and I cannot connect to any servers on any game is there a dependency that I need to install
[01:04] <TheNewGuy> ty you there?
[01:04] <adi__> furrySatan, which one?
[01:04] <kellyh> KillGorack: yes, i had my TFT come up as CRT-0 or CRT-1 if i had it plugged in via VGA
[01:04] <KillGorack> through the hardware drivers via the admin menu
[01:04] <kellyh> KillGorack: The VGA conversion prevents it from detectin the monitor properly
[01:04] <scunizi> KillGorack: When you go to System>Admin>  is there an option for Nvidia x server settings?
[01:05] <mralexandro> can i get help enabling shmconfig?
[01:05] <KillGorack> it was set up at install correctly.. when as twinview and could not go back to the way it was ;-/
[01:05] <KillGorack> yea scunizi that's where I am now
[01:05] <KillGorack> sudo nvidia-settings
[01:05] <mralexandro> i have tried adding entry in xorg.conf but i do not know how to do it correct obviously
[01:05] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: I'm checking.
[01:06] <TheNewGuy> is there a way to get a complete list of applications on your system?  i have down loaded stuff from the repositories and they don't show up anywhere.
[01:07] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: Applications -> Add/Remove, or System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[01:07] <scunizi> KillGorack: with that utility you can try enabling the xinerama setting .. log out and then back in and see how it works.. you might be pleasantly supprised.
[01:07] <mazda01> can't get emerald compiz going. any suggestions?
[01:07] <Paranoidi> adi__: naah, there are useless packages here and there .. just having hard time finding those which don't want to remove ie gnome-desktop as well =)
[01:07] <purepain> mazda01 emerald --replace in terminal or alt + F2 and emerald --replace
[01:08] <TheNewGuy> thanks ty,
[01:08] <KillGorack> why would X Screen 0, show up as CRT-1, and X Screen 1 show up as DFP-0 within the GPU tree towards the bottom of the list.. are they mixed up somehow??
[01:08] <scunizi> KillGorack: but for it to save the setting I believe you have to start nvidia-settings from the terminal using sudo to be able to overwrite xorg correctly.. that way when you restart the changes will be there.. backup xorg first before doing that though.
[01:08] <TheNewGuy> ty this is a java aplication
[01:08] <KillGorack> yea scunizi I get that part.. I can go back to twqin view easily..
[01:08] <budo> what is the website you go to to see if a particular piece of hardware is supported on Ubuntu?
[01:09] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  ive rarely seen a need for seperate X sessions. I alwayys use twinview.
[01:09] <bazhang> !hcl > budo
[01:09] <KillGorack> dr-willis, how do you keep video games from taking both screens/
[01:09] <adi__> Paranoidi, space on eee will be ever a big problem. i've sell my 900 and buyed a 1000. 160gb...no more pain
[01:09] <scunizi> KillGorack: sometimes the computer isn't receiving the info from your monitor through the vga adaptor so it defaults to crt.. if its working don't fix it.
[01:09] <TheNewGuy> I need to associate a file to java.  What is the java application name.. specifically or how do I find it?
[01:09] <MK13> Dr_Willis, i think he likes playing games on one x instance, and app on the other
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  the only programs ive seen that take over 'both' are badly written ones..  and some java apps.
[01:10] <AJC_Z0> Apart from Evolution, what Palm client(s) work with the conduit stuff in Gnome? I'm used to using jpilot, which talk directly to the serial device
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  i play a great many games.. and they fullscreen on only one monitor.
[01:10] <mazda01> purepain, i tried that. it merely makes it so that desktop is nothing, no window manager. I don't see anything? it's like there a theme or something missing.
[01:10] <Paranoidi> adi__: except now you have lower battery life and brekable moving parts =)
[01:10] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: I've seen most full screen games take both monitors using twinview in the default mode.
[01:10] <GArReT`> Right guys i'm back
[01:10] <KillGorack> dr_willis even the linux community isn't safe from badly written stuff ;0) doesn't mean I don't wanna run it..
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  ive never had that issue.
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  you could also use the xrandr stuff to temparly disable the 2nd monitor.
[01:11] <adi__> Paranoidi, no...autonomy from 3...to 6 hours
[01:11] <KillGorack> I have other issues I think then.
[01:11] <GArReT`> I've tried "tcl8.3" and that didnt work neahter guys
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  what game are you refering to?
[01:11] <jackstraw> I have a question. I am trying to play multiplayer games and I cannot connect to any servers on any game is there a dependency that I need to install
[01:11] <KillGorack> I know.. it worked perfectly at one time.. just wanna get it back to the way it was..
[01:11] <adi__> Paranoidi, with kpowersave. works better
[01:11] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: I haven't tried in a while due to a lack of another monitor.. and I was using an older release
[01:11] <kellyh> Dr_Willis: nvidia-settings doesn't support xrandr, so by default it wouldn't be enabled
[01:11] <purepain> mazda01 is the newest version of emerald installed (sudo apt-get install emerald)?
[01:11] <KillGorack> tremulus
[01:11] <Paranoidi> adi__: I guess one could place the package download location to larger ssd by mount binding or something
[01:11] <blaah> hey guys, whats the command to list used Ports through terminal?
[01:12] <TheNewGuy> I am down loading a file in umbutu, how do i set the down load location?
[01:12] <KillGorack> sauerbraten also
[01:12] <kellyh> blaah: netstat?
[01:12] <mralexandro> no one know how to enable shmconfig? i thought it was a simple procedure, i have tried to enter it like it said in the ubuntu forum, but obviously i cant do it.
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  intalling trem. now.. that game always makes me dizzy and pukey tho. :)
[01:12] <adi__> Paranoidi, u can change the second ssd. the big one with a 32gb or 130gb...but it's not cheap. 300 euro a ssd 130gb on ebay :D
[01:12] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  i recall researching that once befor.. its some hal/fdi config file you edit.
[01:12] <MK13> Dr_Willis, u must play as alien
[01:12] <KillGorack> heh it's ok.. I like it.. runs on linux-gamers live usb pretty good
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  i dont play much at all now. :) everyone else was always the marines...
[01:13] <KillGorack> yea hard to get in there and not be a bug
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> I do like Savage2
[01:13] <Paranoidi> adi__: yeah, or place 1.8" hdd .. if not degraded motherboard (haven't checked)
[01:13] <TheNewGuy> Can you down load files with umbutu?
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> TheNewGuy:  err.. yes... you can download files with ubuntu.
[01:13] <adi__> Paranoidi, doesn't fit in
[01:14] <budo> ok. thank you. @ ubottu
[01:14] <TheNewGuy> great, how do I set the path for the files?
[01:14] <MK13> Dr_Willis, sadly i still depend on windows for games :(
[01:14] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1020808&highlight=jnlp&page=2
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> TheNewGuy:  depends on what/how you are downloading it.
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> MK13:  ive gotten where i dont  need games. :P
[01:14] <Paranoidi> adi__: err? sure it does, I've seen tutorials for that at least
[01:14] <bucky> Save File As
[01:14] <bucky> or look in Desktop
[01:14] <adi__> Paranoidi, i'm talking about easy ways...not how to destroy a netbook :P
[01:14] <scunizi> MK13: I would be a good experiment to try the latest Vbox which support directx 8 & 9.. unless your games need 10+
[01:14] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, i have tried that.  can you direct me to the correct guide, or the one you read?
[01:15] <Paranoidi> adi__: this is at least with 901 that I have
[01:15] <mazda01> purepain, i am using hardy heron. but yes, i installed emerald
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  not really - i researched it for someone ages ago.. I might have it tagged on my delicious links.
[01:15] <TheNewGuy> ok,.... not really sure how to answer that.  I click on an Icon and a down load window pops up.
[01:15] <Paranoidi> adi__: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJdNQk5AfkE
[01:15] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, alright:) please let me know if you find it again:)
[01:15] <adi__> Paranoidi, aha, thks.
[01:16] <purepain> mazda01 and you have enabled a theme in emerald theme manager (system<preferences)
[01:16] <TheNewGuy> I am not given an option to select the location.  Seems like a simple thing... I am surprised that linux does not have that feature yet on a download window.
[01:16] <MK13> scunizi, what kinda of specs would i need?
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  it may be one of the many links i got tagged at --> http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[01:16] <mazda01> purepain, i don't know how? I have something called Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> TheNewGuy:  features in 'firefox' are not 'linux features'
[01:17] <scunizi> MK13: not sure.. you might ask in #vbox or check their site..
[01:17] <fiber_cut> How do I tell if this ubuntu is running the 64-bit version or the 32?
[01:17] <KillGorack> I'll be right back..
[01:17] <bucky> TheNewGuy: do you know how to right click on a dl link and select Save As ?
[01:17] <christophsturm> fiber_cut: uname -a
[01:17] <scunizi> TheNewGuy: are  you referring to downloading in Firefox?  if so check it's options and enable "ask every time"..
[01:17] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, i will check it then:)
[01:17] <fiber_cut> That doesnt tell me
[01:18] <scunizi> TheNewGuy: then you can choose the download location.
[01:18] <MK13> scunizi, might give that a try... then i could run windows in vbox for games and visual studio
[01:18] <TheNewGuy> scunizi, why would I want to save the link?  IU need the file
[01:18] <adi__> thks Paranoidi. nice video
[01:18] <fiber_cut> Linux abrandt-laptop-fujitsu 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:18] <scunizi> TheNewGuy: it for the download not the link
[01:18] <Paranoidi> adi__: yeah, unfortunately asus did remove the ZIF(?) connector from motherboard at some point
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  i think i found it -->> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> TheNewGuy:  the link points to the file....
[01:19] <TheNewGuy> yes it does but when I save the link and click on the link, I have the same problem.
[01:19] <christophsturm> fiber_cut: the i686 at the end means that its 32bit
[01:19] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: You need to set .jnlp files to open with /usr/bin/javaws
[01:20] <adi__> Paranoidi, :))) didn't know if the hdd comes with the flat cable :D
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> TheNewGuy:  then you dident save the right link....  - then again.. if this is about java stuff.. no idea. I dont mess with jnlp
[01:20] <scunizi> TheNewGuy: you're doing something wrong.. the behavoir is the same in windows or linux when using Firefox to download a file.
[01:20] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, thanks, that is the same guide i tried. it is not the hal file guide, it is a link to that on the bottom of that page, but that guide should work, allthough it didnt
[01:20] <Paranoidi> anyone know if eee 901 hardware works on default 9.10 kernel?
[01:20] <sage_> how do you open .sh files
[01:20] <adi__> Paranoidi, yes, works
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  no idea. thats all ive tried and it worked.. i recall.
[01:21] <lstarnes> sage_: run then with sh or bash
[01:21] <sage_> k
[01:21] <TheNewGuy> how about this, since it is a firefox browser window, I could go into prefrences and change them there.  Good idea?
[01:21] <Paranoidi> adi__: all of it? since I don't think it worked even with 9.04
[01:21] <MK13> sage_, to run or edit?
[01:21] <adi__> Paranoidi, works well both
[01:21] <sage_> run MK13
[01:21] <adi__> webcam and all stuff
[01:21] <scunizi> TheNewGuy: I said options but ment Preferences.. yes that is the location to change the download behavoir
[01:22] <ewsubach> how do i list or change user modes of irc?
[01:22] <adi__> Paranoidi, the only problem u must remove sound module first of power off
[01:22] <TheNewGuy> k
[01:22] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, do you recal what you did after you had added the content to the file. or if there was any other content in the file. like could i ask you what you have on that file now, cause mine was blank beofre i added the stuff from this guide
[01:22] <Paranoidi> adi__: wth?
[01:22] <lstarnes> ewsubach: which client do you use?
[01:22] <adi__> otherwise will not power off. it's a bug but work well
[01:22] <ewsubach> lstarnes: xchat
[01:22] <sage_> got it never mind all
[01:22] <lstarnes> ewsubach: /umode
[01:22] <TheNewGuy> Ty, that is a link to a suggestion that does not work.   according to the last person that posted.
[01:23] <KillGorack> dr_willis, xinerama is ok.. just the screens are still freaking backwards.. ;-/
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  that was a few installs ago.. I dont even thinki have that laptop any more.
[01:23] <MK13> sage_, oh i just usually drag them to an open terminal (i get lazy :)
[01:23] <ewsubach> lstarnes: thanks
[01:23] <adi__> Paranoidi, doesn't power off
[01:23] <Paranoidi> adi__: hmmh.. http://array.org/ubuntu/ seems to claim that not everything works in 9.04 with default kernel
[01:23] <mralexandro> alright
[01:23] <mralexandro> :D
[01:23] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis,  thank anyways
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  twinview is 'xinerma+extrafeatures' - Just using 'xinerma' can cause issues.. its the twinview extensions that enable  the smarter 'features'
[01:24] <adi__> Paranoidi, i don't  lnow what to say. myne was working well. the only thing was the audio module.
[01:24] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: didn't know that.
[01:24] <adi__> all the rest was fine
[01:24] <bucky> TheNewGuy: "Thanks, that worked. I set ".jnlp" files to open with /usr/bin/javaws and that seems to work."
[01:24] <Paranoidi> adi__: hmm, how about turning wifi/bluetooth on/off with those extra buttons?
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  tremulus seems really really brain dead. :) it did 'full screen'' to the wrong screen.. and was off position by 1/2 the screen
[01:24] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: Could you try it though? :)
[01:24] <MK13> KillGorack, try flipping them the other way?
[01:25] <TheNewGuy> I don't know how to try it.
[01:25] <TheNewGuy> I would like to.
[01:25] <KillGorack> dr_willis yea that's what I get.. it plops it in the middle.
[01:25] <KillGorack> MK13 I hope you dont mean physically do you?
[01:25] <adi__> Paranoidi, wi-fi works with propretary drivers. myne was without bluetooth
[01:26] <adi__> Paranoidi, try live cd and u'll see. if u have a usb unit
[01:26] <buckwild> hello everyone
[01:27] <Godel-Paradox> hi
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  i edited the config file and told it to not go 'fullscreen' and gave it a proper res for the window. it is at least now appearing in a window and is playable. :)
[01:27] <Godel-Paradox> how can i setup a wired network using ethernet between ubuntu and vista pcs?
[01:27] <buckwild> im having trouble installing programs and would appreciate any assistance
[01:27] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: You need to download the jnlp file, right-click it, select properties, open with, and select the application
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  it even defaulted to  the wrong res for the monitor it was appearing on..
[01:28] <sage_> dlling cedega
[01:28] <TheNewGuy> ok, will try
[01:28] <KillGorack> dr_willis, thanks I've been there too not satisfied with it..
[01:28] <bucky> TheNewGuy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-get-.jnlp-java-apps-to-run-from-firefox-in-gnome-516902/
[01:28] <adi__> buckwild, ask
[01:28] <sooki> okay, so i did a fresh install yesterday, and i put /home on a sepperate partition and then later realized it was too small and gparted refuses to let me make it larger, so is there a way i can delete the partition and just have /home on the same partition as the rest of the drive?
[01:28] <KillGorack> what is the "panning" option for?
[01:29] <Godel-Paradox> can someone help me
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  or try the xrandr trick to disale the 2nd monitor.. run game.. exit game.. reneable 2nd monitor.
[01:29] <Godel-Paradox> i am trying to connect 2 pcs 1 vista 1 ubunty
[01:29] <scunizi> sooki: you can't resize while the partition is mounted.. boot to the live cd and use that to adjust
[01:29] <buckwild> for instance, i downloaded a program and the instructions say that i have to compile it or build it
[01:29] <buckwild> ive never done this
[01:30] <KillGorack> hehe dr_willis why would I do that when it's worked before.. just gotta get it to where it was before..
[01:30] <adi__> sooki, it's hard. the fast way...reinstall it
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> buckwild:  this is why theres repositories of precompiles stuff..
[01:30] <TheNewGuy> ok, that works... its a shame it does not work in the download window... I accociated it with the same file that was suggested in the download window.
[01:30] <KillGorack> I think I found the issue
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  so you broke it! shame! :)
[01:30] <KillGorack> Yes I broke it
[01:30] <adi__> buckwild, which program?
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  the aliens are eating your brainz
[01:30] <sooki> scunizi, it's the live CD that won't let me do it
[01:30] <scunizi> buckwild: what program?  did you check the repo's first for it?
[01:30] <KillGorack> maybe you can still help though
[01:30] <TheNewGuy> I guess I just have to down load and then associate the files manualy.
[01:30] <KillGorack> this meta mode button...
[01:30] <sooki> won't let me make it any bigger than its max size for whatever reason it doesn't say
[01:30] <buckwild> lmms
[01:30] <tiyowan> TheNewGuy: You only need to associate them once
[01:31] <TheNewGuy> thats good.
[01:31] <KillGorack> when I click one monitor it seems to have infor for the other.
[01:31] <buckwild> its for making music
[01:31] <KillGorack> I think my stuff is garbeleld
[01:31] <scunizi> sooki: you might be looking at the live cd's /home and not your physical /home.. that's the only use case that I can think of unless you don't have the room to make it bigger.
[01:31] <antonius602> anyone know the command for the screensaver setup utility?  gnome-screensaver-????
[01:31] <KillGorack> oh nevermind it has info for both screen there
[01:31] <TheNewGuy> thanks
[01:32] <KillGorack> brb
[01:32] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, how do i install the synpatics touchpad driver?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  from what i recall.. its allready installed. its part of the X stuff
[01:32] <adi__> buckwild, type in terminal apt-get install lmms
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> !find synaptics
[01:33] <sooki> no it's the normal install's /home partition, it's the same size it should be, about 15 times to size of gparted's live CD iso, and yes, i shrunk the / partition by about six gigs, it won't let me increase /home
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  that gsynapics tool can help configure it - or at least it used to work...
[01:33] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, alright thanks. then i will just add it to my xorg folllowin  guide
[01:33] <mralexandro> ops
[01:33] <sooki> but is there a way to just move /home onto the / partition and delete the /home partition and increase / to its full size?
[01:33] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  some Upodates to X, have broken/changed some things with the synaptics drivers..  not sure how stable they have became lately
[01:34] <scunizi> sooki: was /home right next to / ? and are you using the graphical "drag the bar" to increase the size
[01:34] <mralexandro> Dr_Willis, ok does that mean i should not add it'?
[01:34] <buckwild> permission denied. i am the root user
[01:34] <adi__> buckwild, start --- accesories--- terminal. after in the window type apt-get install lmms. after say Y
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  try gsynaptics - see if it works for you.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> mralexandro:  ive not had to tweak the touchpads on my new laptops.
[01:34] <mralexandro> ok
[01:34] <adi__> buckwild, in terminal?
[01:35] <buckwild> im new to ubuntu
[01:35] <buckwild> yes in terminal
[01:35] <sooki> no, it appeared to be in its own tree branch sort of, don't know how to describe that, and no, i right clicked and chose move/resize, and then hit the up arrows on the max size or whatever's inputbox, and it would just try to add blank space before/after and actually make the partition smaller
[01:35] <adi__> buckwild, type sudo -s
[01:35] <bucky> Password:
[01:35] <adi__> buckwild, put the root password (your password)
[01:36] <buckwild> i think its working :)
[01:36] <adi__> after type apt-get install lmms
[01:36] <scunizi> sooki: the partitions are labeled sda<number>, what is the labeling for / and for /home?
[01:37] <adi__> buckwild, now u'll find lmms in audio & video
[01:37] <buckwild> cool.  i hope this works.  I appreciate your help :-D
[01:37] <sooki> umm, not sure, i'd have to boot back into to be sure
[01:37] <scunizi> sooki: no.. the partition editor should tell you..
[01:38] <adi__> one more cigar and good night ppl
[01:38] <adi__> :)
[01:38] <sooki> i'm in windows land at the moment :P
[01:38] <scunizi> sooki: really hard to do this from there..
[01:38] <buckwild> i don't see it :(
[01:38] <tiyowan> sooki: the partitioning labelling is independent of the mount points
[01:38] <adi__> buckwild, did ask it to say yes for installing?
[01:39] <sooki> well, explore2fs states hda2 and hda4?
[01:39] <buckwild> yes
[01:39] <sooki> i don't know how to get it to show from within windows
[01:39] <Ese> hi
[01:39] <Ese> I'm having sound problems in my jaunty install
[01:39] <Ese> and I think it all started when I uninstalled Totem
[01:39] <Ese> any clue or help?
[01:39] <adi__> buckwild, search in start---applications-audio and video or multimedia
[01:39] <zack> hello, im having a problem with my sound... my sound card is the intel 82801G sound card.. its snd-intel for the kernel module it isnt legacy.. what do i need to do to get sound out of my computer? im running ubuntu 9.04 and stock alsa that it came with
[01:40] <nick125> Anyone here know where I can get a more up-to-date hplip in Jaunty?
[01:40] <adi__> buckwild, or simply type in terminal lmms
[01:40] <buckwild> a dialog box came up
[01:40] <adi__> saying what?
[01:41] <sooki> \Device\Harddisk0\Partition1 and \Device\Harddisk0\Partition3 is what explore2fs says in detailed  partition options
[01:41] <buckwild> it just wanted me to define a working directory
[01:41] <buckwild> how can i get the icon on the applications menu?
[01:41] <adi__> just hit ok
[01:42] <sooki> let me boot into it and see if we can figure this out
[01:42] <sooki> brb
[01:42] <adi__> buckwild, click right on desktop and choose new shortcut, in the field command type lmms, hit ok and exit
[01:42] <adi__> right click*
[01:42] <Jeruvy> buckwild: use control center to add it.
[01:42] <buckwild> ok. thanks
[01:43] <whileimhere> Hi I have a 4.4 gig iso file that I need to backup to CDR not DVD. Will any of the burners burn across CDRs?
[01:43] <adi__> whileimhere, a bootable image?
[01:43] <faileas> I'd like to get a certain minimal set of apps for an older box with no network access I've tried out the config i want on top of a xubuntu cd
[01:44] <whileimhere> No asi_ I dont think so
[01:44] <scunizi> whileimhere: multisession.. maybe k3b but I'm not sure.
[01:44] <whileimhere> Its a Picasa backup ISO
[01:44] <faileas> Any way i can do a 'test' install, and use a second disk to install just what i want on top of a minimal install?
[01:44] <whileimhere> I want to backup my Photos but I do not own a DVD burner
[01:44] <adi__> whileimhere, split it with 7zip in chunks after burn it
[01:44] <whileimhere> I probably should just do them by hand
[01:45] <buckwild> can anyone suggest a good book to give me a good start on learning how to use ubuntu properly??
[01:45] <faileas> whileimhere: why not compress the disk and split it, or split it with a appropriate tool, or just mount the image, and seperate it into 700 mb chunks by hand?
[01:45] <faileas> adi__: 7zip? ;p
[01:45] <faileas> thought that was windows only
[01:46] <adi__> faileas, linux too. search in synaptic
[01:46] <adi__> bye ppl
[01:46] <adi__> nice chat
[01:47] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/ buckwild
[01:47] <scunizi> adi__: thanks for all the assist everywhere :)
[01:47] <buckwild> thx bazhang
[01:48] <buckwild> i refuse to go back to windows and i am determined to learn this
[01:48] <faileas> lol
[01:48] <scunizi> buckwild: that's half the battle.. :)
[01:48] <faileas> buckwild: To be honest, I learnt a lot of what i know right here ;p
[01:48]  * faileas don't need no stinky books ;p
[01:49] <buckwild> lol
[01:49] <whileimhere> Can 7zip really do much compression on folders of jpgs?
[01:49] <budo> that was one way i was planning to learn was in here
[01:49] <budo> reading questions and people replies to questions
[01:50] <buckwild> im trying to get my wife to let me install ubuntu on her PC.  all she does is internet
[01:50] <jerry_> how do list the devgid for my usb devices?
[01:50] <mb_again> buckwild: my wife is windows xp home and she is much happier, she has tried my linux and finds it difficult, even though she has to do zero setup
[01:51] <buckwild> we just never win
[01:51] <scunizi> mb_again: she's comfortable and not open to learning something new right now..
[01:51] <ewsubach> my mom can't even work windows. I set up a vnc server so when she needs help i can connect and do it for her
[01:52] <buckwild> they even made this look like windows i'm so amazed
[01:52] <scunizi> mb_again: occationally call her from someplace else and have her use your computer to look something up.. learn it so you can walk her through it on the phone.. :) forced learning
[01:52] <sooki> scunizi, /home is on /dev/sda1 and the rest is on /dev/sda2
[01:53] <buckwild> ﻿scunizi good idea. im gonna try that
[01:53] <mb_again> different here, she is a power xl user and power word user, windows does not scare her. But she chose ooo over the cost of MS office, very happy with ooo picassa filezilla and firefox
[01:53] <scunizi> sooki: the rest meaning / (root) ?
[01:53] <sooki> yeah
[01:53] <sooki> and the swap partition
[01:53] <whileimhere> I have a desktop comp that needs a wireless card (PCI) installed in it. It will never be able to get close enough to have an etho cable run to it. What kind of card am I looking for? Are they expensive? How compatible are they with Ubuntu?
[01:53] <sooki> but noone likes swap partitions cause they're loners
[01:53] <buckwild> you guys have been great.  now i know where to go for help. good night
[01:54] <scunizi> sooki: ok when you reduced the size of root (sda2) did you reduce it from the end of the partition or the beginning?
[01:54] <Jeruvy> !hcl | whileimhere
[01:54] <whileimhere> thanks
[01:54] <sooki> looks like fromt the beginning
[01:55] <mb_again> whileimhere: i had good success with very cheap pcmcia cards on laptops, zero luck with usb wireless. i suggest carefully researching the cheapest add in pci cards available for good quality linux driver support
[01:55] <sooki> maybe
[01:55] <scunizi> sooki: then you should be able to stretch the end of /home to the beginning of root
[01:55] <whileimhere> mb_again yeah. I was given a D510 compaq and everything works great with Ubuntu except I need wireless on it.
[01:56] <sooki> how would i do that?
[01:56] <mb_again> whileimhere: i will need to do that with a compaq craputer I gave to a nephew soon, similar model. my brother also does not want to run wires
[01:57] <whileimhere> mb_again I have been using it for photos and editing them mostly and with the 128 meg nvidia card I had laying around installed in it I cant tell the difference between my new laptop and it.
[01:58] <os11> guys how do u watch mov files?
[01:58] <scunizi> sooki: in the partition editor pick the partition with the drop down menu in the upper right and on the graphical display of the space used you should be able to drag the right or left edge of the partition in the direction needed.
[01:58] <tiyowan> !codecs | os11
[01:58] <sooki> well, i'm attempting to upload a screenshot, but konqueruereurer segfaulted
[01:59] <scunizi> sooki: your on KDE? kubuntu?  not sure if the partition editor looks the same there as it does on gnome.. probably but....
[01:59] <alejandro_> que onda
[01:59] <mb_again> whileimhere: I just looked at the hw list (link posted above) and it is organized by manufacturer. shop, note models and prices, look them up. Should be quite easy.
[01:59] <sooki> well, it should, just really ugly-like as i haven't found the gtkqt lookike engine thing yet
[02:00] <sooki> and it looks the same as it does on the live CD
[02:00] <earthmeLon> I recently destroyed my sound card due to static.  Now, many programs wont even run because there are errors.  Is there any ways I can remove the sound card or do something so that apps that try to use sound don't crash when they try to access my sound card?
[02:00] <scunizi> sooki: did you just install recently? and if so are you dual booting?
[02:00] <sooki> yeah, just did a fresh install yesterday, i'm dual booting but winders is on a second drive
[02:01] <GArReT`> guys
[02:01] <GArReT`> how can i fix this error
[02:01] <GArReT`> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:01] <naiad> curious if there are any cedega users that have nvidia twinview enabled here?  Having some issues having both enabled.  I know this isn't the cedega channel but its pretty dead in there :)
[02:01] <sooki> is there any way i can just move /home to / partition and just delete the /home one so i can expand / back, as i don't plan on switching distros, like ever
[02:01] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: do you have build-essential package installed?
[02:01] <scunizi> sooki: you could sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop from inside a termial if you wanted gnome.. kde is a different animal since 4.xx .. I haven't played with it.
[02:01] <GArReT`> earthmeLon, i dont think so
[02:01] <GArReT`> what is that?
[02:02] <scunizi> sooki: you could also just reinstall and manually partition during the process
[02:02] <lstarnes> GArReT`: it contains the c compiler and packages needed to make it work
[02:02] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: It's a package of commonly used files needed to do what you're doing.  Try sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:02] <alejandro_> alguien que hable español
[02:02] <sooki> yeah, i was hoping to avoid that, but it wouldn't be a big issue
[02:02] <lstarnes> !es | alejandro_
[02:02] <bazhang> alejandro_, /join #ubuntu-es
[02:02] <Ruby> sebsebseb
[02:02] <sooki> and they should for the most part operate the same, shouldn't they, as i do almost everything from the terminal
[02:02] <Ruby> You still there?
[02:02] <scunizi> sooki: you haven't accumulated anything that you can't do without.. a reinstall would only take 40 mins. or so.
[02:02] <GArReT`> it says invalid operation
[02:02] <sooki> yeah
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Ruby: hi
[02:03] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: It's a package of commonly used files needed to do what you're doing.  Try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:03] <techbert> Can anyone help with pam modules and time.conf?
[02:03] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: I added INSTALL to the line
[02:03] <earthmeLon> My bad
[02:03] <Ruby> Alright so I burned a disk
[02:03] <Ruby> and its booting on the laptop
[02:03] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok  good  do you still have the ISO by the way?
[02:03] <sooki> alright, thanks for the help scunizi
[02:03] <Ruby> Yes
[02:03] <Ruby> No flash drive though
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ,because it's a good idea to do a little check to make sure your  ISO downloaded properly
[02:04] <Ruby> Check disk for defects?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Ruby: well there is that, but I think that's only to check the CD isn't scratched and such
[02:04] <sooki> ooo, dolphin has tabs
[02:04] <Dr_Willis> always a good idea to check iso files md5sums
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  Ruby
[02:05] <earthmeLon> Also, GArReT`, when replying to what someone says, make sure you type their name.  That way they get a notification and they know you're talking to them.  You can type earth and then hit tab, and it will COMPLETE my nick
[02:05] <scunizi> sooki: no problem.. I occationally run kubuntu in a vm in vbox.. nice.. but I need a production machine and kubuntu is still developing .. that is the new kde is still in growing pains.. it's pretty though.. I like it.
[02:05] <GArReT`> earthmeLon, this is the error i get
[02:05] <GArReT`> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[02:05] <GArReT`>   build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or
[02:05] <GArReT`>                             libc-dev
[02:05] <GArReT`>                    Depends: g++ (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[02:05] <GArReT`> E: Broken packages
[02:05] <FloodBot2> GArReT`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: Use pastebin.com to show multiple lines
[02:06] <GArReT`> my bad
[02:06] <sooki> yeah, i tried it when 4 just came out and it had a looooot of bugs
[02:06] <monostone> hello, i want to install spamassassin but there is a dependency error with libmail-spf-query-perl since it says that /usr/sbin/spfd is already present in the cpan-libmail-spf-perl package. Any pointers as in how to resolve this issue? thank you
[02:06] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: When you do sudo apt-get install build-essential, it should automatically install all the dependencies you need
[02:07] <sooki> anyway, off i go, thanks for the help again
[02:07] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: try:  sudo apt-get clean all && sudo apt-get update
[02:07] <whileimhere> is 7zip better compression than taz.bz?
[02:08] <earthmeLon> bz is 7z whileimhere
[02:08] <whileimhere> oh it is?
[02:08] <sebsebseb> Ruby: still here?
[02:08] <earthmeLon> whileimhere: Yeah, you would use 7z e file.tar.bz and then tar xvf file.tar
[02:08] <GArReT`> earthmeLon, ok its done.. what then?
[02:09] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:09] <whileimhere> earthmeLon I am just using the archive Gui tool to do it.
[02:09] <GArReT`> earthmeLon, it gives the same error
[02:09] <Ruby> Says the hashes are different
[02:09] <Ruby> Sebsebseb: yes
[02:10] <earthmeLon> GArReT`: sudo apt-get install libc6-dev libc-dev
[02:10] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok so you get a program that  does the MD5sum  of the ISO, then  the code you get should be the same as the one here:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/MD5SUMS
[02:10] <sebsebseb> Ruby: that's what I was going to put before
[02:10] <alejandro_> alguien de veracruz para platicar
[02:10] <Ruby> Yes
[02:10] <Ruby> okay
[02:10] <sebsebseb> !es |  alejandro_
[02:10] <Ruby> they are the same
[02:10] <earthmeLon> yeah, whileimhere 7z is the best and rar is pretty good too.  tar itself doesn't actually compress files, just puts them together
[02:11] <alejandro_> gracias
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Ruby: you sure your getting exactly the same code?  webpage and md5sum program?
[02:11] <whileimhere> This is creating a file called Archive.tar.bz
[02:11] <sebsebseb> alejandro_: :)
[02:11] <Ruby> Yes
[02:11] <whileimhere> bz2
[02:11] <Ruby> I am
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok good
[02:11] <techbert> I can't seem to restrict users by time with "account    required  pam_time.so" uncommented  and login;tty*;luser;!Al0000-2400
[02:11] <sebsebseb> Ruby: now boot lap top from Live CD
[02:11] <pahom> hi all
[02:11] <earthmeLon> Should be pretty good whileimhere.  Just remember, some files (like mp3s) are already compressed, so you might not see that great of compression.  It depends on what you're compressing
[02:12] <whileimhere> photos
[02:12] <Ruby> okay
[02:12] <Ruby> its at the ubuntu livecd menu
[02:12] <earthmeLon> I recently destroyed my sound card due to static.  Now, many programs wont even run because there are errors.  Is there any ways I can remove the sound card or do something so that apps that try to use sound don't crash when they try to access my sound card?
[02:13] <giaco> flash has always been slow and a cpu eater, but with 9.04 he's able to fill up a 4 cpus computer and consume 80W for a youtube video
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok boot up the live session
[02:13] <Ruby> Alright its booting
[02:14] <sebsebseb> Ruby: the data can be  networked over using Samba, but you will need to know the internal ip address of the computer you want to move it  over to
[02:14] <jonathancw> Anyone know of any luck getting SLI 9800 GT Video cards to work with ubuntu?
[02:15] <DrLame> I've loaded ubuntu with an HDMI cable plugged in. I look into the Resolution Manager and all it shows is one monitor (unknown) which I assume is the laptop monitor.... Where is mai tv?  \(o.O)/
[02:15] <taget_> i rran a pair of 8800's
[02:15] <jonathancw> taget_ odd enough i cant get it to work with x.  i install 1.85, even added the bus id to the xorg.conf file, etc.  nothing seems to work
[02:15] <MoltenBobcat> DrLame: is there an input switcher on the laptop like on my netbook I have to hit Fn f8 to switch to the vga port most laptops have something like that
[02:16] <KillGorack> hey, can you install .run files into ubuntu?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> KillGorack: yes, but  I am not that sure how
[02:16] <KillGorack> ;0(
[02:16] <scunizi> jonathancw: you might need the latest driver from nvidia.. check out the following for the release notes and install instructions. http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_185.18.14.html  read carefully and don't shortcut it..
[02:16] <taget_> jonathancw that is odd all i had to do was use the nvidia controla panel and enable sli
[02:16] <techbert> Well maybe another time
[02:17] <KillGorack> I wanna play this
[02:17] <KillGorack> http://padworld.myexp.de/index.php?news
[02:17] <vardhan> is there a repos that has more frequent update of software
[02:17] <scunizi> KillGorack: it's a kick.. lots of fun
[02:17] <techbert> :-(
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  world of padman?
[02:17] <Ruby> Alright
[02:17] <vardhan> for example, i currently can't upgrade to firefox 3.5 :(
[02:17] <Ruby> Live cd booted, sebsebseb
[02:17] <scunizi> KillGorack: check out www.getdeb.net
[02:17] <DrLame> MoltenBobcat: my function buttons don't seem to work in ubuntu... Nothing happens with the monitor one, and the mousepad disable one doesn't work either...
[02:17] <bazhang> !ff35 > vardhan
[02:17] <sebsebseb> Ruby: see above I said  about internal ip address
[02:18] <Ruby> uh
[02:18] <KillGorack> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[02:18] <KillGorack> ]found it
[02:18] <Ruby> how do I find that ):
[02:18] <KillGorack> ;0)
[02:18] <Ruby> just like
[02:18] <Ruby> www.whatismyip.com?
[02:19] <zack_> hello! i just installed my alsa drivers for my computer but theres a problem, it doesnt know what codec module to use.. my card is the Realtek ALC887 Codec.. what module should i be using?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> Ruby: no that's the external ip address
[02:19] <sebsebseb> Ruby: the one  the  Internet gets
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  check out
[02:19] <KillGorack> check wht out?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  check out    http://en.djl-linux.org/     its a 'steam like front end' that can install/run/update GPL games.
[02:19] <KillGorack> ubuntu does it nicley https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingRunPackage
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok in Windows do you know the command prompt?
[02:20] <Ruby> Would it make any difference if I checked on the laptop or this computer
[02:20] <Ruby> Yes
[02:20] <KillGorack> still didnt figure my screens out ;0(
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Ruby: you'll do it on Windows
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  found a few neat games via Djl thats not in the repos. :)
[02:20] <sebsebseb> Ruby: and also move the data over to your Windows  computer
[02:20] <Ruby> Give me a second let me get a power cord for the laptop
[02:20] <KillGorack> dumb dsl.. 45 minutes for 550MB ;0(
[02:20] <Ruby> Yeah I figured that
[02:20] <KillGorack> what games dr??
[02:21] <DrLame> Anyone else have any ideas on how to get HDMI up or figure out if my hardware is functioning?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  been playing Numpty Physics lately..  and a few others.   The app has screenshot/descriptions of various games..
[02:22] <furrySatan> does anyone know how to set the rendering method in the xorg.conf file?
[02:22] <r3l1c> Hi everyone. I have looked in the wiki ... I am trying to share a folder, on the internet for a friend. I have firestarter policy to allow smb... I forwarded the service to the gateway, and forwarded the port on the router.. Still no luck. Any ideas?
[02:22] <Ruby> Give me a second i'm going to do something
[02:22] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> r3l1c:  you dont use 'samba' to share over the internet.. you would best use ssh for transfering files over the internet.
[02:23] <jonathancw> scunizi oddly enough man ive tried everything
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> r3l1c:  smb over the internet is a HUGE security loophole.
[02:23] <jonathancw> evven had a few people try and help me walk through the installation and i cant get it
[02:23] <r3l1c> Dr_Willis:  It is tempory
[02:23] <r3l1c> temporary
[02:24] <KillGorack> they should FORCE everyone to use torrents
[02:25] <sebsebseb> KillGorack: for downloading Ubuntu or whatever,  I disagree
[02:25] <r3l1c> Thanks Dr_Willis I have disabled and will it up through ssh
[02:25] <r3l1c> will set it up
[02:25] <KillGorack> I getta lotta corupt downloads.. Never had any issues with any kinda torrents
[02:25] <jonathancw> anyone else pretty dang good with nvidia
[02:26] <sebsebseb> KillGorack: well that's what md5sum is about  and  that other check which is similar
[02:26] <KillGorack> is that kinda check after the fact?
[02:26] <Foxy999> I have written an sh script, how can I make the script run when I type a command like "dog" into terminal if the program isn't in the directory?
[02:26] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  KillGorack
[02:27] <KillGorack> after it's downloaded correct?
[02:27] <sebsebseb> yes
[02:27] <scunizi> jonathancw: nvidia has a linux forum you might want to paruse..
[02:27] <Ruby> Alright
[02:27] <Ruby> I'm back.
[02:27] <KillGorack> hehe my slow connection i'd rather be proactive a little.. why dissagree with the flavors on torrents?? just curious
[02:28] <r3l1c> Foxy999:  chmod -x {filename}
[02:28] <DrLame> No one's keen on HDMI issues/ =/
[02:28] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok you could  also move the data over to Ubuntu on the other computer,  but  it doesn't really matter
[02:28] <DrLame> ?
[02:28] <Ruby> !samba
[02:28] <Ruby> or
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Ruby: Samba is great
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Ruby: and easy to do
[02:29] <Ruby> Alright how do I set up samba, give me a link because that seems like a definition for what it is
[02:29] <KillGorack> dr_willis I did't know about the Djl website ;0) thanks!!
[02:29] <sebsebseb> Ruby: nah i'll guide you a bit :)
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> KillGorack:  yea.. its nifty. :) makes installing some games a lot easier. (the non gpl ones)
[02:30] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok first of all you  need to know the internal ip address of the computer your going to move the files to, so open the command prompt
[02:30] <sebsebseb> Ruby: on Windows
[02:30] <dennis00> hi, in vnc my mouse doesn't work with ubuntu. how do I change mouse settings without mouse? (shortcuts?)
[02:30] <Foxy999> r3l1c, that doesn't work
[02:30] <dennis00> how do I get into terminal? what shortcut?\
[02:30] <kebomix> guys , i have problem with topcoder arena , i use this command to run it  "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/javaws   %ArenaPath%/ContestAppletProd.jnlp  "  it begin with download and then it doesn't open arena , any solution !
[02:30] <Ruby> yes
[02:30] <KillGorack> is that in the synaptic?
[02:30] <Ruby> Alright
[02:30] <Ruby> done
[02:30] <MutantTurkey> alt+f2 gnome-terminal
[02:30] <MutantTurkey> dennis ^^^^
[02:31] <Ruby> so what is it that I enter
[02:31] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ipconfig /all
[02:31] <dennis00> thanks! alt f2 gets me in terminal
[02:31] <dennis00> it's not synaptics
[02:31] <dennis00> just the normal mouse
[02:32] <queso> I'm having trouble getting my wireless USB adapter to work.  I've explained the issue here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203540  Any help you could provide is appreciated!  Thanks :)
[02:32] <Ruby> Alright
[02:32] <dennis00> I try to connect to ubuntu via vnc on a vmware server.
[02:32] <Ruby> IP4 address would be it?
[02:32] <dennis00> but it opens popups of trash - file browser.
[02:32] <Ruby> *IPv4
[02:32] <dennis00> it's very strange.
[02:32] <FloodBot2> dennis00: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <el_loco> i'm trying ot set opendchub in ubuntu 9, but i cant get my client (linuxdcpp) on the same box to connect to the hub
[02:32] <KillGorack> sebsebseb, is there issues with downloading things like ubuntu with torrents?
[02:32] <sebsebseb> Ruby: nah something like for example 192.168.2.1  something
[02:32] <dennis00> on every mouse movement and every mouse click, it just opens 'trash - file browser', when I click...
[02:32] <sebsebseb> KillGorack: no
[02:32] <kebomix>  i have problem with topcoder arena , i use this command to run it  "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/javaws   %ArenaPath%/ContestAppletProd.jnlp  "  it begin with download and then it doesn't open arena , any solution !
[02:33] <Ruby> Alright
[02:33] <Ruby> Would the internal address happen to be what I use to access my router control panel via browser?
[02:33] <MutantTurkey> 192.168.1.1
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Ruby: yes
[02:33] <Ruby> Alright then
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Ruby: well  the main internal ip address will be for the router config page
[02:33] <Ruby> so I have my address
[02:33] <Ruby> now what
[02:33] <sebsebseb> Ruby: then  it  may say in there,  what they are for each individual computer as well
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok you need to make a shared folder on Windows, where your going to move the stuff to
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Ruby: so for example make something in my documents
[02:34] <monostone> hello, i want to install spamassassin but there is a dependency error with libmail-spf-query-perl since it says that /usr/sbin/spfd is already present in the cpan-libmail-spf-perl package. Any pointers as in how to resolve this issue? thank you
[02:34] <el_loco> does anyone know how to set up opendchub in ubuntu... i've been googling, but i cant find any useful results
[02:34] <sebsebseb> Ruby: then right cilck   and properties and make it a shared folder.  your on XP or Vista on there?
[02:34] <richardpradenas> hola
[02:34] <DigitalFiz> is there a way to make the icons line up on the right side instead of the left side?
[02:34] <Ruby> Vista
[02:34] <el_loco> hola
[02:34] <richardpradenas> que tal
[02:34] <haydenmicallef> monostone, are you installing it via synaptic?
[02:35] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok  I think you still get the hand icon on Vista, when it's shared
[02:35] <el_loco> como ta' richardpradenas
[02:35] <monostone> haydenmicallef: yes
[02:35] <dennis00> When I click with my mouse anywhere on the screen, it opens a new popup with 'trash - file browser' in Ubuntu. Keyboard seems to give no problems, but I need to be able to use the mouse via VNC. VNC is configured via the .vmx file. I've tried connecting via multiple XP-nodes, same problem. The VMWare-OS keeps opening 'trash - file browser' pop-ups. I have installed a new Ubuntu, but unfortunately same problem.
[02:35] <richardpradenas> bien y tu
[02:35] <richardpradenas> oye
[02:35] <richardpradenas> una pregunta
[02:35] <el_loco> diga?
[02:35] <richardpradenas> tu usas linux
[02:35] <sebsebseb> !es |  richardpradenas
[02:35] <richardpradenas> ??
[02:35] <FloodBot2> richardpradenas: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:35] <el_loco> si
[02:35] <Ruby> uh
[02:35] <bazhang> richardpradenas, el_loco /join #ubuntu-es
[02:35] <Ruby> Give me a minute
[02:35] <richardpradenas> sabes como instalar un programa
[02:35] <el_loco> cool... thanks
[02:36] <haydenmicallef> Monostone: Try uninstalling libmail-spf-query-perl maybe, then install spamassassin
[02:38] <nickh> Can some suggest a multi-channel audio editor that works with .wav files in Ubuntu?
[02:38] <scunizi> nickh: audacity
[02:39] <Lionyx> nickh: Ardour
[02:39] <KillGorack> nickh audacity
[02:39] <peter_> how do i change my background in  ubuntu
[02:39] <sebsebseb> peter_: like Windows
[02:39] <scunizi> nickh: ardour, like Lionyx says, will also work but is more difficult to install.. it's a higher end program
[02:39] <DrLame> Hmm... how do you run an /rpb file?
[02:39] <DrLame> err
[02:39] <sebsebseb> peter_: right cilck on the desktop
[02:39] <taget_> peter_ right lcikc on desktop[ and select chagne background
[02:39] <bazhang> peter_, right click on desktop
[02:39] <DrLame> .rbp...
[02:39] <el_loco> opendchub on ubuntu... anyone?
[02:40] <peter_> yhanks
[02:40] <Lionyx> scunizi, agree
[02:40] <nickh> I'll try Audacity -- any others?
[02:40] <mike3> i'm having some issues with cron. The cron log shows that it has executed my custom scripts but the scripts are not actually running. I can run the manually just find and they work. Any idea???
[02:41] <rww> mike3: is there a blank line at the end of your crontab? that's usually what i do wrong >.>
[02:41] <rww> (i.e., you want one there)
[02:41] <rww> also, % needs escaping
[02:41] <mike3> rww in crontab -e ?
[02:41] <rww> mike3: yeah
[02:41] <monostone> haydenmicallef: ok, i'll try that, though im scared that a CP i have built in perl might not like the change from cpan-libmail-spf-perl to libmail-spf-query-perl
[02:41] <el_loco> mike3 use the executable full name (/home/abc/bin/hello_world)
[02:42] <mike3> rww at the end of the file?
[02:42] <Lionyx> nickh, here's the important thing about this sws, try one, than after explore it and find out something it does not works on, you may move on, but try starting with this and see if it's cool enought for ya ;)
[02:42] <rww> mike3: the file that crontab -e edits needs to have a blank line at the end of it, yes.
[02:42] <haydenmicallef> Ok, but uninstall at your own risk.. Usually anything you do can be undone
[02:42] <mike3> rww okay give me a sec to check
[02:43] <nellmathew> anyone here use banshee? if you do and you're interested, can you help me compile this shoutcast extension for it? (adds shoutcast radio to banshee)..
[02:43] <mike3> rww not having this line will still report in the cron logs it launched?
[02:44] <Lionyx> talking about music softwares, recently i've wine "emulated" Encore 4.5.5 here, cause for some reason, the 5.0 doesn't work. did some one ever did it work?
[02:44] <rob__> well aftermuch hard work i got the resolutions to work on my Gforce can get 1900x1050 but still no 3d stuff
[02:44] <jonathancw> Anyone have any experience getting NVIDIA 9800 GT SLI Video cards working with X?
[02:45] <Guest55117> when i do lshw, it says my ram is 667mhz but the package on which i bought it says PC2 6400 meaning 800mhz, so which is it? i remember it being advertised as 800mhz too
[02:46] <shaullx> godamn this compiz i need to manualy start it each time i start ubuntu
[02:46] <shaullx> wth
[02:46] <blz> !midi
[02:46] <bazhang> shaullx, watch the language
[02:47] <coleys> shaullx: There is clearly an easy fix, don't get pissed about something so trivial.
[02:47] <shaullx> sorry
[02:47] <bazhang> Lionyx, you may wish to check the appdb for wine
[02:47] <mike3> el_loco i am
[02:47] <el_loco> shaullx, there is a way to set compiz to run un starup... i remember reading a guide on it easy to find through google
[02:47] <balleyne> how can I install a 64-bit kernel in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <bazhang> http://appdb.winehq.org Lionyx
[02:48] <nellmathew> anyone know how to fix "gmcs: Command not found " ?
[02:48] <shaullx> im searching google and ubuntu forums for an hour i will be glad if you could give me a link
[02:48] <jonathancw> Anyone have any experience getting NVIDIA 9800 GT SLI Video cards working with X?
[02:48] <scunizi> balleyne: you have to install the 64 bit version of ubuntu
[02:48] <Lionyx> bazhang, see what i can get there, tks
[02:48] <rob__> With out being buzz kill as regards to Linux , but something as simple as a GFX card should really be a Pnp expirence,
[02:48] <shaullx> nothing seems to work
[02:48] <nevyn> rob__: gfx card simple?
[02:48] <coleys> shaullx: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon, then add fusion-icon to startup applications.
[02:49] <nevyn> rob__: srsly you think a gfx card is simple?
[02:49] <balleyne> scunizi: ah, thanks. so, reinstall necessary? no way to convert a 32-bit installation?
[02:49] <scunizi> rob__: it isn't on windows.. you still have to install the right driver.. otherwise you're using a generic driver.. Ubuntu does that too.
[02:49] <haydenmicallef> Nellmathew: Install gmcs
[02:49] <shaullx> i have fusion icon how do i add it to startup, coleys?
[02:49] <scunizi> balleyne: not that I'm aware of.
[02:49] <el_loco> mike3, im not sure.. i had trouble like that in the past and been able to get it working by trial an error
[02:49] <bazhang> balleyne, correct, full re-install
[02:49] <ggabor> hi .. how can i install swfdec.tar.gz to ubuntu?
[02:49] <rob__> yea I was , gfx from nvida
[02:49] <balleyne> scunizi, bazhang: thanks
[02:49] <coleys> shaullx: System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[02:49] <bazhang> ggabor, that should be in repos
[02:50] <rob__> taken about 6 days just sort the resolution
[02:50] <shaullx> ill try
[02:50] <shaullx> tnx
[02:50] <rob__> out , now the 3d engin to sort out
[02:50] <nellmathew> haydenmicallef - simple enough, i'll remember that in the future, thanks!
[02:50] <joebodo> sigh - eclipse completely unstable under ubuntu ...
[02:50] <ggabor> what is repos? repos?
[02:51] <rob__> and reading this IRC many other people have the same issues
[02:51] <Lionyx> talking about 3d cards, does anybody knows where can i get a elctronic schematic of a Gforce FX5500? mine just blowed 2 caps...
[02:51] <poseidon> What package do you need to install to get the acmkdir utility?
[02:51] <smil3y> ggabor>  !repository
[02:51] <coleys> !repos > ggabor
[02:51] <jefinc> !enter
[02:51] <rob__> I love linux , but how can you advise people to use it , when something like GFX can cause so many problems
[02:52] <shaul_> well now fusion-icon starts on startup but i still need to right click it and click reload
[02:52] <nevyn> rob__: so you got an unsupported piece of complicated hardware working in 5 days with your operating system.. that's pretty good really
[02:52] <ggabor> thx your messages
[02:52] <rob__> < Lionyx> i just put a new one up on Ebay
[02:52] <haydenmicallef> Nellmathew___: As in: "sudo apt-get install gmcs"
[02:52] <coleys> rob__: It depends on hardware, don't whine =P. Some will have alot harder then you, some will have it just plan easy, actually most will. =P
[02:53] <shaul_> any help? :(
[02:53] <[Pwner]John> what the program
[02:53] <[Pwner]John> to run unbuntu on windows
[02:53] <Ruf_BSU_IT4> leivince di lagi ku kasulod comsoc nga room..ehehe
[02:53] <[Pwner]John> while windows is still running
[02:53] <Lionyx> rob__, tks buddy, but it's more about the fixing challenge than the real use of it ;)
[02:53] <jefinc> !patience | shaul_
[02:53] <[Pwner]John> Ubuntu does NOT have a seperate partition
[02:54] <shaul_> :\
[02:54] <coleys> shaul_: It shouldn't. Just set it to what you want it to use i.e. window decorator --> emerald window manager --> compiz
[02:54] <shaul_> its set to compiz
[02:55] <shaul_> but i still need to click reload windows manager so it will enable the effects
[02:55] <ubnewbee> my graphics seem to pain-crawl on my new Acer Aspire 4530, running a nVidia 9100m G card.  Anyone else experience something like this?
[02:55] <rob__> < Lionyx>  K oh and its 5200 not a 55000 i got up soz
[02:55] <ubnewbee> I'm running 9.04
[02:55] <ubnewbee> 64-bit version
[02:56] <wermse> im trying to install jaunty, it boots up just fine into the installer, then when it gets to the detect and mount cdrom part it fails saying it can't find a cdrom.  i tried a different jaunty cd and it wont even boot up the installer.  i have a centos cd that installs just fine.  any idea what may be causing this and how i could fix it?
[02:56] <rob__> < coleys > notr really moaning on my behalf, but Jo bloggs ,
[02:56] <mike3> wermse possibly AHCI
[02:56] <MK13> shaul_, have you put "USE_EMERALD='YES'" in ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager ?
[02:56] <ubnewbee> wermse, is cd-rom boot turned on in your BIOS?
[02:56] <mike3> wermse I had weird issues with this. Check to see if yhou can turn off and on this feature in your bios
[02:56] <rob__> < coleys> if Linix want to make it into the homes more its needs to be out of box expirence,
[02:56] <wermse> ohh, another thing, when it says boot from atapi cdrom it says no emulation
[02:57] <shaul_> i dont want to use emerald
[02:57] <bazhang> rob__, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:57] <shaul_> only compiz effects
[02:57] <wermse> trying one more time again here quick, if it doesn't work i'll check the bios for boot stuff
[02:57] <[Pwner]John> anyone?
[02:57] <MK13> shaul_, mb
[02:57] <coleys> rob__: If you want a complete out of the box experience try something that doesn't have license issues. (Such as mandriva-one).. Ubuntu isn't really out of box, its on the edge, but not out of the box.
[02:58] <bazhang> wermse, did you md5 the iso, burn at low speed, do the disk integrity check
[02:58] <shaul_> mb?
[02:58] <rob__> < bazhang> sozzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[02:58] <wermse> i've used this cd a few times before, yesterday i used it on a different machine, i dont suspect it is an issue with the cd, but i guess that is a possibility
[02:58] <coleys> wermse: Do you have a flash drive?
[02:58] <bazhang> wermse, then check bootoptions
[02:58] <bazhang> !bootoptions > wermse
[02:58] <wermse> yes, i do have a flash drive
[02:59] <rob__> OK - I got the rez sorted , on my gforce any idea onthe 3d stuff
[02:59] <coleys> !unetbootin
[02:59] <Vadimer> Hello all
[02:59] <coleys> !unetbootin | wermse
[02:59] <wermse> i am looking at that page now
[03:00] <mike3> cron is forked!
[03:00] <MK13> wermse, you can make a usb disk easily using ubuntu by going to system>admin.> create usb startup disk
[03:00] <shaul_> also when i run compiz --replace i get this error "Checking for Xgl: not present. "
[03:00] <wermse> ok, that is another option, i will try this one, then the next, then the next.  thanks for the help everyone, hopefully i get this working
[03:00] <coleys> wermse: I highly suggest unetbootin.
[03:00] <kitty_> everyone familiar with the rescue/recovery mode options when booting, how do you enable that mode through yaboot, i've tried adding the "append='single ro'" options but it just drops me to a "enter root passwd for maintenance" prompt
[03:01] <soreau> shaul_: For compiz issues, visit #compiz
[03:01] <wermse> coleys: ok
[03:01] <MK13> coleys, why unetbootin?
[03:01] <coleys> MK13: Works, and its fast.
[03:01] <CleanLaundry> anyone in here familiar with NUBUNTU?
[03:02] <Samper> Need help with setting up RandR on laptop with SIS graphics driver.... cheers
[03:02] <MK13> coleys, ahh, the built-in ubuntu tools seems fast too, not to mention creates persistent usb disks :D
[03:02] <skyl> so http://65.13.1.66/ I am trying to forward port 80 through a stupid belkin wireless router to a linux box that has a static IP at 192.168.2.2 ... anyone help me diagnose why I can see the webserver on my LAN but not from the WWW?
[03:02] <coleys> MK13: Im under the assumption he needs to install ubuntu first, which is why he's asking about his LiveDisc
[03:03] <dennis00> how do I change vnc port/remote desktop on ubuntu?
[03:03] <MK13> coleys, the tool is on the live cd (or is the livecd not booting on any computer?)
[03:03] <Jeruvy> skyl: add a port forward for 80 on 192.168.2.2.
[03:03] <coleys> MK13: Not entirely sure.
[03:04] <coleys> MK13: Ask him I  guess.
[03:04] <mike3> cron is being stupid. According to the cron logs it says it launces my custom scripts but nothing actually happens.
[03:04] <bobo> hey guys what are some good drawing apps ala gimp, krita, xara xtreme?
[03:04] <Jeruvy> dennis00: 'system -> preferences -> remote desktop'
[03:04] <coleys> bobo: inkscape
[03:04] <mdg> CleanLaundry: what is NUBUNTU?
[03:04] <rob__> < skyl>  can you see the http requests in youe apache access log 1st
[03:04] <skyl> Jeruvy you would think that would be it but I'm having no luck
[03:04] <bobo> coleys: tried it already, didnt really like it
[03:04] <MK13> wermse,can you boot into the ubuntu live cd at all?
[03:04] <CleanLaundry> mdg | nubuntu
[03:05] <CleanLaundry> nubuntu | mdg
[03:05] <skyl> rob__ no, and the server if fine behind the router
[03:05] <Jeruvy> skyl: what router make/model?
[03:05] <CleanLaundry> hmm
[03:05] <coleys> !nubuntu
[03:05] <bazhang> CleanLaundry, that is offtopic here
[03:05] <bobo> !gimpshop
[03:05] <skyl> Jeruvy the portforward.com article is of no use
[03:05] <bobo> oh cool
[03:05] <CleanLaundry> mdg, security version of ubuntu
[03:05] <dennis00> Jeruvy: it doesn't give alternative port at remote desktop page
[03:05] <mdg> CleanLaundry: oh...
[03:05] <KB1JWQ> CleanLaundry: I've never heard of it.
[03:06] <mike3> is there a way I can see a verbose log of when cron runs a jobs?
[03:06] <dennis00> how to restart vino?
[03:06] <jonathancw> Anyone have any experience getting NVIDIA 9800 GT SLI Video cards working with X?
[03:06] <KB1JWQ> Learn something new every day.
[03:06] <kitty_> recovery mode options when booting, how do you enable that mode through yaboot, i've tried adding the "append='single ro'" options but it just drops me to a "enter root passwd for maintenance" prompt
[03:06] <Jeruvy> dennis00: click the advanced tab, then check 'use alt. port' and enter the port
[03:06] <coleys> jonathancw: wah, still struggling? D:
[03:06] <rob__> < skyl>  sudo tcpdum -i eth0 src belkin router  <. check if any traffic is hittind the server
[03:06] <CleanLaundry> mdg, KB1JWQ since it is off topic I wont talk about it anymore but google, it, or go to nubuntu.org
[03:06] <jonathancw> coleys hehe ya man i am =/
[03:06] <rob__> *tcpdump
[03:06] <dennis00> Jere`: there is no advanced tab
[03:07] <wermse> hmm. i wonder if this old machine can even boot off a usb drive
[03:07] <dennis00> I tried gnome-conf editor, but not sure if gnome restart is a good idea.
[03:07] <kitty_> how do you customize the desktop resolution using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[03:07] <Jeruvy> dennis00: there sure is :)
[03:07] <coleys> wermse: Quick try never hurts =)
[03:08] <coleys> kitty_: Nvidia?
[03:08] <jonathancw> coleys i dont think anyone knows how hehe
[03:08] <kitty_> mach64
[03:08] <dennis00> Jeruvy: not for me, no tab.
[03:08] <coleys> jonathancw: Yeah... Im baffled... as to why it doesn't work. Maybe your cards are *TOO* new? :p And I though I would never ever have to say that =P
[03:08] <Jeruvy> dennis00: what are you using?
[03:09] <dennis00> Jeruvy: uBUNTU 9.04
[03:09] <dennis00> desktop
[03:09] <jonathancw> coleys damnit hah
[03:10] <wermse> hmm. unetbootin can't do ubuntu 904?
[03:12] <Jeruvy> dennis00: ah right they moved it, I'll see if I can find it
[03:12] <M1K3> wermse, there is a tool that can boot from cd, then it has a boot loader that can then boot from usb :D
[03:12] <thedarkone> on my msi mother board it has a front audio
[03:13] <SunTapyr> hrhrhr
[03:14] <mdg> Can anyone here comment as to how ubuntu runs on an acer aspire one?
[03:14] <SunTapyr> you can inhale it
[03:15] <BCM43> Could someone recomend a good antivirus program?
[03:15] <Jeruvy> dennis00: http://freemor.wordpress.com/2009/05/20/jaunty-remote-desktop-and-advanced-settings/
[03:15] <SunTapyr> kaspersky !?
[03:15] <Gallimaufry> Is kaspersky in the repos?
[03:15] <SunTapyr> brings viruses on ubuntu too
[03:15] <SunTapyr> or clamav
[03:15] <SunTapyr> but that contains tapir magic yet
[03:15] <Jeruvy> !virus
[03:15] <kenyon> !antivirus
[03:16] <jonathancw> Anyone have any experience getting NVIDIA 9800 GT SLI Video cards working with X?
[03:16] <Gallimaufry> I cant get ubuntu to run because I dont have windows installed
[03:16] <Gallimaufry> is there a way to install without windows?
[03:16] <dennis00> jeruvy: thanks!
[03:16] <thedarkone> on my msi mother board it has a front audio  and only get very little out of it and nothing out of others
[03:17] <BCM43> Everybody says their OS  not get viruses, linux, mac, BSD, yet I always get them
[03:17] <kenyon> Gallimaufry: you don't need windows to install ubuntu
[03:17] <mdg> Gallimaufry: You have a live cd?
[03:17] <Gallimaufry> I thought linux used windows drivers
[03:17] <M1K3> Gallimaufry, just boot from the live cd
[03:17] <Gallimaufry> like FAT
[03:17] <Gallimaufry> I just downloaded the exe
[03:17] <Gallimaufry> it was something like ubuntu.exe
[03:17] <mdg> Gallimaufry: it can use the windows driver to set things up like your wifi card
[03:17] <mike3> cron is dumb on ubuntu!
[03:18] <goose> Gallimaufry, do you know how to burn an iso?
[03:18] <mike3> It states it runs my scripts but it doesn't do it propery from cron. I cannot see why as the logs just tell me it runs the scripts...
[03:18] <kenyon> mike3: care to elaborate?
[03:18] <mdg> Gallimaufry: show us the link you used
[03:18] <kenyon> mike3: ah.
[03:18] <kebomix> how to install swfdec firefox plugin ?
[03:18] <Gallimaufry> Let me find it
[03:18] <tr3et> this is for "dar" (for backing up your hard drive). what does this mean?: "Note that the reference backup can be another full backup or another differential backup. This way you can make a first full backup, then many differential backup, each taking as reference the last backup made."
[03:18] <SunTapyr> hello
[03:18] <goose> kebomix, can you find it under the firefox plugins on the mozilla site? that's the easiest way
[03:18] <SunTapyr> wrong channel
[03:18] <mike3> kenyon - I have custom scripts I run via cron. I've ported them over from Gentoo. Cron shows that it executes them but it doesn't fully finish my custom scripts...
[03:19] <Ruby1> Sorry
[03:19] <Jeruvy> mike3: can't you see from the cron log whats happening?  Perhaps you don't understand ubuntu's methodology?  It is considerabley different from some other distros.
[03:19] <mike3> kenyon All the scripts work fine manually launching them.. So what the heck is the deal. Is there anyway to get a detail log out put from cron..maybe there is an error
[03:19] <Ruby1> I have no idea
[03:19] <Ruby1> what happened
[03:20] <Ruby1> my internet just disengaged for a bit
[03:20] <mb_again> kenyon: i like to soft link my custom scripts into /etc/cron.daily and hourly etc , that is all present on ubuntu and should work fine
[03:20] <Gallimaufry> mdg: from here http://fileshunt.com/rapidshare.php?file=ubuntu+setup+exe
[03:20] <wermse> mike: do you know what the thing is called to boot off cd into a boot loader and boot off the usb drive?
[03:20] <kebomix> goose: it is not there  it is firefox plugin for swfdec flash player program
[03:20] <mike3> jeruvy it says it launched the script. that's it
[03:20] <goose> kebomix, ah, I'm not sure. I just installed VLC with the mozilla plugin :3
[03:20] <kenyon> mike3: the output of cron jobs is emailed to the user who ran the jobs.
[03:20] <Jeruvy> mike3: my scripts will output notifications by design, and my logs reflect the same output.
[03:21] <kebomix> goose: i installed it from sudo apt-get install swfdec-mozilla    , but it doesn't appear on firefox plugins !
[03:21] <goose> Gallimaufry, the iso's come from www.ubuntu.com and you don't need windows to install it
[03:21] <kebomix> goose: vlc runs flash !!
[03:21] <Ruby1> sebsebseb
[03:21] <somfdask> hey does anyone here have any experience getting audio to work over HDMI in Ubuntu?
[03:21] <Ruby1> When I set the sharing folder to well
[03:21] <Ruby1> sharing
[03:21] <Ruby1> my internet disengaged
[03:21] <goose> Gallimaufry, download the .iso file that suits your needs, burn it to a CD, then boot from that CD
[03:21] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: ok your back good :)
[03:21] <Gallimaufry> I tried to install Apple software, osx, and it wouldnt work either
[03:21] <somfdask> I just bought a computer I'd like to use with an HDMI cable hooked up to my TV and video works fine but audio doesn't appear to work correctly
[03:21] <Gallimaufry> I think linux need to get its act together and make it easier
[03:21] <goose> kebomix, but VLC is win :> Sorry, I don't know how to help you any further...
[03:22] <kebomix> goose: okay thx
[03:22] <mike3> jeruvy - okay well I dont' want to rewrite my scripts... These scripts work fine manually so I don't see why it won't from cron.
[03:22] <mike3> jeruvy cron just launches them at certain times.. That's it.
[03:22] <kebomix> any one here runs swfdec plugin on firefox ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:22] <mdg> Gallimaufry: I've never seen that before - I clicked the ubuntusetup.exe link (trusted version) three different times and it took me to three different websites
[03:22] <Jeruvy> mike3: nor do I, perhaps you don't have them setup correctly
[03:22] <mike3> jeruvy what setup correctly???
[03:23] <mdg> that was bogus!
[03:23] <Jeruvy> mike3: I dunno...what exactly is the situation. ;)
[03:23] <alcalde84> Hi everyone. I'm using Twitux 0.62 in Ubuntu 8.04. Twitux had been working fine, but now I do not get the popup notifications when a twit arrives, even when the preference option is enabled.
[03:23] <mb_again> jeruvy dont forget to check permissions ... very common issue
[03:23] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: yeah I saw you disappear out of here
[03:23] <alcalde84> What could be the problem, how can i fix it?
[03:23] <Jeruvy> mb_again: I've been bitten by that one myself :) thanks.
[03:23] <Ruby1> Yeah it just quit
[03:24] <tr3et> hello?
[03:24] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: ok is the folder shared now?
[03:24] <mike3> jeruvy the issueis that cron says it launched the cron jobs but yet the jobs don't seem to have launched correctly. I have a script that calls 4 other binaries and scripts and base off the logs from those applications they weren't run
[03:24] <timetel|s> anyone using kernel 2.6.30 and ati drivers?
[03:24] <Ruby1> Uh I deleted it because it just quit when it was set to shared
[03:24] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: oh I see heh,  ok well  that  shoudn't have disconnected your Internet
[03:24] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: try again
[03:25] <nasrullah> hi
[03:25] <Ruby1> Hm
[03:25] <Jeruvy> mike3: which cron?  User cron, root cron or crontab?
[03:25] <mike3> jeruvy user
[03:25] <mdg> hi Ruby !
[03:25] <nasrullah> i am getting problem with pidgin ,it is not working your help pls
[03:25] <mdg> Ruby: did you get your stuff saved?
[03:26] <sebsebseb> mdg: no she is going  to do Samba, once she has the shared folder sorted out and that
[03:26] <Jeruvy> mike3: ok and the script is executing within userspace and not seeking something outside of user permissions?
[03:26] <timetel|s> anyone with ati and kernel 2.6.30
[03:26] <mike3> jeruvy - yep.. Like I said I can run it manually just fine
[03:26] <Ruby> Yeah not yet
[03:26] <Sam_> Can I install Ubuntu over my Vista and be able to switch between both anytime?
[03:26] <mdg> Ruby: bummer :(
[03:27] <sebsebseb> Sam_: install over Vista?
[03:27] <Ruby> alright
[03:27] <Ruby> it may screw over
[03:27] <jueves> hi, Im new over here ..what's the most Important thing to know about this thing?
[03:27] <Ruby> i apologize if it does
[03:27] <Ruby> Hey guys
[03:27] <sebsebseb> Ruby: just read what it says for  doing a shared folder  properly, and should be ok
[03:27] <Ruby> Am I still here?
[03:27] <Ruby> Yup
[03:27] <sebsebseb> Ruby: yes
[03:27] <Ruby> I am
[03:27] <FloodBot2> Ruby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:27] <Ruby> I set it to sharing
[03:27] <Sam_> I mean I have vista installed, can i have both in the same machine
[03:27] <mb_again> juves: dont give up at the first sign of trouble
[03:27] <Jeruvy> mike3: if you run it now, and review /var/log/syslog for cron events what does it tell you?  Is there anything from a previous failure?
[03:27] <jueves> that's a scary first advice :P
[03:27] <fadzl> hi
[03:28] <fadzl> any malay?
[03:28] <M1K3> Sam_, you will need to dual boot
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Sam_: you can dual boot, or with enough RAM virtual machine Vista,  won't be that good for 3D Windows gaming though,  altough Virtualbox 3.0 has some more support :)
[03:28] <Ruby> Okay so its set to sharing, sebsebseb
[03:28] <mdg> jueves: you have something specific you need help with?
[03:28] <Ruby> Now what
[03:28] <nasrullah> selemat pagi
[03:28] <skyl> I want to log in to my modem .. I wonder what is the IP?
[03:28] <fadzl> help
[03:28] <jueves> hmm...actually not, I just needed some human company =P
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok good
[03:28] <somfdask> does anyone know anything about HDMI audio in ubuntu?  I don't think it's detecting my HDMI sound device
[03:28] <jueves> is there an especific channel for that?
[03:28] <sebsebseb> Ruby: your on the Live CD still yes?
[03:28] <Sam_> M1K3: is that something that will be done automatically?
[03:28] <fadzl> i cant update my pidgin to new version
[03:28] <jueves> or is ok, if I stay around here
[03:28] <kitty_> ok i need some help configuring xserver-xorg
[03:28] <Ruby> Yes
[03:29] <mb_again> juves: with ubuntu now, almost everything <<just works>> but there are always bits around the edges. I love the installer, just ran it on five year old box, smooth as silk
[03:29] <Ruby> It is
[03:29] <sebsebseb> Ruby: install samba on the live cd
[03:29] <mike3> jeruvy - nope I get mail saying it was sucessfully ran
[03:29] <wermse> hmm, well i got this image on the usb drive, but my motherboard can't boot off a usb drive.  i should be able to add an entry into grub, right?  my usb device is coming up as sda.  my hard drives are hda, hdb, hdc.  any idea what sda would be in grub?
[03:29] <jueves> not true.. my webcam wont work in ubuntu
[03:29] <skyl> nothing that is the output of $route or $ifconfig apparently and unfortunately
[03:29] <Ruby> !samba
[03:29] <M1K3> Sam_, put the cd while in vista and then run wubi.exe that is on the cd
[03:30] <Ruby> uh
[03:30] <kitty_> wermse if it works, you can just goto the grub menu and hit "c" for command prompt then just type in "root = (hd" then hit tab and see if anything is listed beyond your normal disks
[03:30] <mdg> M1K3: wubi = bad
[03:30] <goose> M1K3, wubi is fail, just boot from CD
[03:30] <fadzl> y?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> Ruby: I think it's samba-common you want to install
[03:30] <Ruby> Okay can you just simplify it, and have it redirect to where I should be reading
[03:30] <fadzl> wubi bad?
[03:30] <skyl> can anyone tell me how to find the IP of my modem from the CL?
[03:30] <wermse> kitty_:  it was only listing my normal disks.  so perhaps that wont be possible?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> fadzl: yes Wubi is usually bad
[03:30] <Ruby> So just sudo apt-get install samba-common?
[03:30] <Jeruvy> mike3: so cron reports it works fine, but it doesn't?
[03:30] <sebsebseb> Ruby: yep try that
[03:30] <fadzl> reason?
[03:30] <goose> Sam_, burn the Ubuntu CD, put it on your computer and restart. if your bios is not setup to boot from CD then HDD, then modify it to do so
[03:30] <kitty_> wermse was the usb disk in when you booted?
[03:30] <nasrullah> pidgin is not working your help pls
[03:31] <mike3> jeruvy yep...........
[03:31] <wermse> kitty_: yes
[03:31] <goose> nasrullah, details?
[03:31] <KB1JWQ> nasrullah: Please to be definining "not working"
[03:31] <kitty_> wermse, it'll only list the disks recognized by bios
[03:31] <skyl> should the computers on my LAN have the same Bcast or different?
[03:31] <mdg> Sam_: YOu have to burn the cd as an .iso image
[03:31] <tr3et> would anyone be willing to explain to me how dar updates its backups?
[03:31] <Jeruvy> mike3: hmm, can you pastebin the script?
[03:31] <nasrullah> i cannot open it
[03:31] <Sam_> goose: i don't want to run it as live
[03:31] <sebsebseb> fadzl: quite a few reasons, runs inside Windows, nasty Windows virus or some such bye bye Ubuntu,   if  windows is all fragmented Ubuntu can be slow.  the boot loaders can mess up, so people can't just access Ubuntu, then they also can't just use a Live CD to get hold of data, and so on
[03:31] <wermse> kitty_: well i guess that explains that.  stupid 10 year old computers.
[03:31] <goose> fadzl, when I installed via wubi it made my computer take a large crap and then need reformatting and reinstalling
[03:31] <Sam_> i wanna keep it installed
[03:31] <leachim6> in gpg when you use the "gpg" command it says "Type your message" what do you do when you're finished typing it?
[03:31] <kitty_> you can always make a small boot partition or just shove your vmlinuz and initrd on your fat disk and do it that way
[03:31] <mdg> Sam_: Have you ever used ubuntu?
[03:31] <kitty_> and just point its root to your usb disk by uuid
[03:32] <kitty_> or you could make a boot cd
[03:32] <goose> Sam_, you can install from CD at boot, you don't have to run it live
[03:32] <mike3> jeruvy you know what, nevermind.. I installed mailx and i'm seeing log output now
[03:32] <Sam_> that's too complicated
[03:32] <sebsebseb> Sam_: do you need to make space on your hard disk for Ubuntu?
[03:32] <Jeruvy> mike3: I thought so :) good stuff
[03:32] <goose> Sam_, are you serious?
[03:32] <sebsebseb> Sam_: and setting up a dual boot is pretty easy
[03:32] <kitty_> wermse i have a computer i built in 98 and it boots from usb just fine :P
[03:32] <goose> Sam_, you put the CD in your computer, then restart it
[03:32] <goose> unplug it and plug it back in even, if you like
[03:32] <Ruby> Says it already has samba-common
[03:32] <Ruby> sebsebseb
[03:32] <jueves> is there any other channels?
[03:32] <fadzl> oh thanks,
[03:32] <goose> it's even easier than wubi
[03:33] <wermse> kitty_: hmm, maybe this one can, although i cant seem to find anything.  perhaps if i upgraded the bios it would be able to
[03:33] <sebsebseb> Sam_: let Vista resize itself, or  dataloss can happen
[03:33] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok try this
[03:33] <kitty_> good luck with that
[03:33] <skyl> http://dpaste.com/63589/ <-- something is coming through my router?
[03:33] <wermse> is it at all possible to start the ubuntu installer from another linux distro?
[03:33] <sebsebseb> Ruby: open up the file manager
[03:33] <Sam_> i know, the live cd is working but i'm afraid of installing ubutu
[03:33] <sebsebseb> Ruby: get the location bar and put in
[03:33] <sebsebseb> Ruby: smb:// your internal ip address
[03:33] <kitty_> Anyone want to wade through some driver issues with xorg and my mental inadequacies ?
[03:34] <mike3> jeruvy if i want to disable email logs.. is this possible?
[03:34] <goose> Ruby, there's a bug with samba, let me explain
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Ruby: you can also try  places >  Network  and then Windows network and see if you can get into your shared folder like that
[03:34] <shaullx> where is the file .gnomerc ?
[03:34] <sebsebseb> Ruby: I am not sure what goose is on about,  but  Samba usually works well :)
[03:34] <jueves> why does your nick change to guest# ?
[03:35] <bazhang> jueves, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <goose> Ruby, when you try and use Samba via IP, you can't just use the IP, i.e. smb://192.168.1.101 won't work, you need to specify a target folder. i.e. smb://192.168.1.101/folder/ or it won't find the host
[03:35] <jueves> how do I get there baz
[03:35] <goose> sebsebseb, samba works well :) just that folder bug I just mentioned is an annoyance
[03:35] <goose> Sam_, well you're gonna install ubuntu either way, and wubi is the less stable way to do so
[03:35] <rww> jueves: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:35] <bazhang> jueves, /join #ubuntu-offtopic (or click channel name)
[03:35] <jueves> okis, thanks
[03:35] <M1K3> goose, wubi is not fail for a new comer
[03:36] <sebsebseb> M1K3: Wubi is fail
[03:36] <rww> !register | jueves: and to pick and reserve a nickname...
[03:36] <goose> M1K3, referring newbies to wubi is uberfail
[03:36] <sebsebseb> M1K3: even some of the Ubuntu ops are  against it  which must mean something,  as well as many other experienced Ubuntu users
[03:36] <goose> wubi shouldn't have been created at all, imho
[03:36] <goose> waste of code and space
[03:36] <fadzl> wubi just for try ubuntu
[03:36] <kitty_> wubi is fun :P
[03:37] <M1K3> sebsebseb, it is no worse than a frugal install :D
[03:37] <jueves> thank you ubottu , I'll come here when I had more important questions then :P
[03:37] <kitty_> trying ubuntu, thats what the live cd is for
[03:37] <mdg> kitty_: you use wubi?
[03:37] <sebsebseb> M1K3: I have been here a few times before, when  people get Wubi issues
[03:37] <fadzl> haha,,yup
[03:37] <kitty_> no, but it was fun to play with
[03:37] <Ruby> sebsebseb: Okayy I went in via network
[03:37] <sebsebseb> kitty_: well a virtual machine of Ubuntu would have been way more fun to play with :)
[03:37] <ponpulla> trying to connect to irc.j3di.org
[03:37] <kitty_> who wants to help me with my Xorg.conf file?
[03:37] <fadzl> 1st time, just use wubi
[03:38] <M1K3> sebsebseb, so it is better to make the ppl that have trouble using wubi try to partition ?
[03:38] <goose> kitty_, if by "help" you mean "sympathize" :>
[03:38] <M1K3> sebsebseb, good luck w/ that
[03:38] <mdg> kitty_: you getting a black screen and prompt?
[03:38] <CleanLaundry> I cant move files and folders because I dont have permission to see them? how do I fix this
[03:38] <sebsebseb> M1K3: yes,  or  get them to virtual machine  Ubuntu to begin with, even if that means Windows as host, and Windows as host is pretty eww really
[03:38] <kitty_> no by help i mean i've read the man pages and i still can't get the thing to work
[03:38] <goose> 1st time use live CD. when you like it, install with GRUB, the right/real/correct way
[03:38] <alcalde84> ﻿Hi everyone. I'm using Twitux 0.62 in Ubuntu 8.04. Twitux had been working fine, but now I do not get the popup notifications when a twit arrives, even when the preference option is enabled. Does anyone knows how to fix it?
[03:38] <mdg> kitty_: get what thing to work?
[03:38] <tr3et> would anyone be willing to explain to me how dar updates its backups?
[03:38] <goose> alcalde84, have you modified your theme at all?
[03:39] <fadzl> use wubi=windows crash, ubuntu crash
[03:39] <sebsebseb> M1K3: only thing though to test the hardware more properly need a  Live CD or some such or sure Wubi
[03:39] <Ruby> Okay I keep trying to get in
[03:39] <fadzl> wubi
[03:39] <kitty_> i try to launch gdm, and it falls back to failsafe (i wish i could just use those settings and they'd work) and tells me that the config is wrong, and the log file states that there are no devices found
[03:39] <ponpulla> can anyone help me connect to irc.j3di.org
[03:39] <Ruby> and it says failed to mount to windows share
[03:39] <sebsebseb> Ruby: can you get into the shared folder?
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Ruby: that other guy  did a good explination of how to do this
[03:40] <M1K3> fadzl, wow, i didnt have a windows or ubuntu crash while using wubi... w/ VISTA
[03:40] <ewsubach> CleanLaundry: do you have root access?
[03:40] <goose> ponpulla, this is the support channel for Ubuntu OS. but try /server irc.j3di.org
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Ruby: so  like he said, but folder is the full path to your folder
[03:40] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, yes
[03:40] <earthmeLon> UGH!!!! Everytime I put a file on my computer from SAMBA, it's owned by nouser:nogroup.  How can I change this >_<
[03:40] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, using the drag and drop
[03:40] <alcalde84> goose, i have modified it twice at most, but how does it affect the popups?
[03:40] <mdg> kitty_: do you log in at the black screen?
[03:40] <Ruby> Yeah I'm trying My IP/users/administrator/documents/backup
[03:40] <sebsebseb> Wubi is  really for newbies that don't know better!   Should drop the subject here really :)
[03:40] <fadzl> emm but so slow
[03:40] <alcalde84> goose, well not modified the theme, changed it
[03:41] <kitty_> i log in @ ssh
[03:41] <goose> alcalde84, I know modifying mine messed with my pidgin-guifications plugin a while back. just offering the thought, I have no idea how to fix your problem :/
[03:41] <ewsubach> CleanLaundry: so you are using the gui to drag it and it gives permission denied or something?
[03:41] <erik_> i have problem
[03:41] <Ruby> hurf
[03:41] <Ruby> it isnt shared
[03:41] <Ruby> what
[03:41] <mdg> kitty_: so its an ssh issue...
[03:41] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, yes, because I dont have permission to view the files
[03:41] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok
[03:41] <erik_> i just installed xubuntu
[03:41] <kitty_> no its a xorg issue
[03:41] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, I tried chown and chmod
[03:41] <Ruby> Okay
[03:41] <Ruby> now its shown
[03:41] <Ruby> Still says
[03:41] <Ruby> Failed to mount to windows share
[03:41] <erik_> no task bar at bottom or top
[03:41] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, on the folder, but maybe my parameters were incorrect
[03:42] <Ruby> When i try to browse into it
[03:42] <FloodBot2> Ruby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:42] <sebsebseb> Ruby: that was the windows network way yes?
[03:42] <ewsubach> CleanLaundry: try sudo chmod 777 file_or_folder_name
[03:42] <goose> erik_, have you tried right clicking, then adding the panel?
[03:42] <sebsebseb> Ruby: that ways sometimes works, but normalley fails
[03:42] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, did that already
[03:42] <Ruby> Yes I set the folder to sharing then looked in network on ubuntu
[03:42] <mdg> erik_: Can you get a menu by pressing alt + F1?
[03:42] <alcalde84> goose, thank you, :)
[03:42] <ewsubach> CleanLaundry: try sudo lsattr file_name and tell me what it says
[03:42] <Ruby> and its there
[03:42] <goose> welcome alcalde84 :)
[03:42] <Ruby> but when I try to go into it
[03:42] <erik_> how is that done on xubuntu
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok
[03:43] <Ruby> Says
[03:43] <sebsebseb> Ruby: opn the file manager
[03:43] <Ruby> Unable to mount location; Failed to mount Windows share
[03:43] <rww> !enter | Ruby
[03:43] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, just was able to move it will command line, while getting errors saying do not have permission, it still moved the folder and files
[03:43] <mdg> erik_: also try Alt + Esc and see if that brings up a menu
[03:43] <erik_> no
[03:43] <kitty_> how can i get xorg to use the settings from failsafe mode?
[03:44] <mdg> xubuntu uses xfce right?
[03:44] <erik_> i can right click an get to applications
[03:44] <wermse> hmm. if i made the usb drive thing from an ubuntu cdrom, and i am able to boot off the cdrom, but it fails later, should i be able to just mount the usb key as /cdrom and win?
[03:44] <MK13> mdg, yes
[03:44] <goose> kitty_, reboot and at GRUB select "Recovery Mode" then chose the "Try and fix x server" option?
[03:44] <CleanLaundry> ewanchic, thanks!
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Ruby: if you open computer for example
[03:44] <sebsebseb> Ruby: can you get it showing the locationbar/addressbar ?
[03:44] <ewsubach> CleanLaundry: i think you figured it out by yourself :P
[03:44] <mdg> what does a left click on desktop do in xfce?
[03:45] <tr3et> >X-( could anyone PLEASE tell me how dar works? all i want to know is how it updates backups. i dont get what itsays in the manual or at the website
[03:45] <kitty_> ok goose, how do i enable recovery mode from yaboot, i add the append="ro single" and it drops me to a "enter root password for maintenance" prompt
[03:45] <mdg> kitty_: you have a PPC mac?
[03:45] <kitty_> yes
[03:45] <sebsebseb> Ruby: view > location bar
[03:45] <goose> kitty_, no idea D: I no can has use mac
[03:45] <mdg> kitty_: I have a G4 iMac (looks kinda like a lamp) :)
[03:46] <goose> it makes my soul heart too much kitty_ :p
[03:46] <sebsebseb> kitty_: oh Linux on a Mac,  that's  interesting and :)
[03:46] <kitty_> well its working
[03:46] <kitty_> i just can't get the damn xorg config to work
[03:46] <mdg> kitty_: what kind of PPC?
[03:46] <kitty_> old pos imac
[03:47] <mdg> kitty_: how old - mine was "born" in 2000
[03:47] <kitty_> http://pastebin.com/f28fb63a1
[03:48] <sam__> quit
[03:48] <sebsebseb> sam__: hold on
[03:48] <kitty_> sebsebseb any suggestions?
[03:48] <Ruby> sebsebseb Back and no dice
[03:48] <sebsebseb> sam__: you know how to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows now yes?
[03:48] <sebsebseb> sam__: and as I said before make sure VIsta resizes itself or possible dataloss might happen
[03:49] <kitty_> and question, why the hell does failsafe config list the pci address different then lspci?
[03:49] <sebsebseb> kitty_: nah  not got a Mac, but I know some things are a bit different on Mac  than  with PC when it comes to Linux
[03:49] <kitty_> only booting
[03:49] <sebsebseb> Ruby: you coudn't get the location bar to show?
[03:49] <kitty_> once you're in linux its all the same if your drivers work
[03:50] <Ruby> it shows
[03:50] <chameleon> hi all
[03:50] <Ruby> but it gives the same message
[03:50] <Ruby> when I try to go into the oflder
[03:50] <mdg> kitty_: you have a 64bit system?
[03:50] <Ruby> *folder
[03:50] <wizzo50> Hi
[03:50] <kitty_> elf32
[03:50] <chameleon> i just installed ubuntu and iam haveing troble geting the flash player for the firefox
[03:50] <erik_> this will be fun
[03:50] <cornjuliox> i'm on the 8.04 livecd right now, is there any way to enable flash support so i can watch youtube vids?
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[03:51] <nyper> slt tlm
[03:51] <kitty_> i feel like killing this thing so hard
[03:51] <dff64bits> chameleon, what porblem dude?
[03:51] <kitty_> how do i set screen resolution limits in the xorg.conf?
[03:51] <dff64bits> problem*
[03:52] <mdg> kitty_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714 - go to Ubuntu PowerPC Downloads for walkthrough tutorials
[03:52] <mdg> kitty_: I mean Ubuntu PowerPC FAQ for tutorials
[03:52] <oldgeezer> I have hammer ready myself kitty
[03:53] <mdg> kitty_: I have ubuntu 8.10 working on my iMac
[03:53] <installing-ubunt> hello, I'm trying to install 9.04 and I've run into a snag. I have two drives, an IDE and a SATA. I have XP on the 80GB IDE and I've installed Linux on the SATA. The installation worked as it's mounted in the current Live session, but no grub. can someone please give me a hand. Thanks in advance.
[03:53] <chameleon> i dont know how to install flashplayer
[03:53] <oldgeezer> i am getting somewhere since i downloaded a wine application to run a chat client i wanted but still no cookie as yet
[03:53] <dff64bits> go to Synaptic
[03:53] <dff64bits> search for flashplugin-nonfree
[03:53] <dff64bits> and install that
[03:53] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok trying to get someone to join that can also help :)
[03:54] <Ruby> Alright
[03:54] <tr3et> >X-( could anyone PLEASE tell me how dar works? all i want to know is how it updates backups. i dont get what itsays in the manual or at the website
[03:54] <MK13> !enter | dff64bits
[03:54] <KB1JWQ> tr3et: man dar didn't help?
[03:54] <tr3et> i said that
[03:55] <dff64bits> MK13, ok.. sorry
[03:55] <wizzo50> chameleon: When you install FlashPlayer, you have to go to its regualer site and install it for Linux
[03:55] <C-S-B__> how can I keep my wifi connection when i close the lid on my ac powered netbook?
[03:56] <kitty_> ok so i have the entire system working, i can force it to gointo failsafe mode and run the xserver in low graphics mode (which is what i want it to NORMALLY do) how do i get it to just work for me?
[03:56] <chameleon> i tryed that wizzo50
[03:57] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok he's coming
[03:57] <cabrey> Ruby, open Places > Home Folder
[03:57] <Ruby> Ah back
[03:57] <Ruby> sorry
[03:57] <Ruby> doing so
[03:57] <sebsebseb> cabrey: oh you were in here all along :D
[03:57] <Ruby> Alright done
[03:57] <cabrey> Ruby, do you see that small button directly under the back button?
[03:58] <Ruby> Yes I am aware of it
[03:58] <Ruby> and I am aware of how to use that
[03:58] <Ruby> The problem you see
[03:58] <Ruby> is that when I try to navigate into the folder via samba, both by double clicking on the folder and by using that upper bar
[03:58] <Ruby> it gives the same message
[03:58] <Ruby> Unable to mount location
[03:59] <Ruby> Failed to mount Windows share
[03:59] <cabrey> is that all?
[03:59] <wizzo50> chamelon Which one did you select? .deb
[03:59] <kitty_> ok someone help me before i blow my brains out
[03:59] <cabrey> Ruby, then we will try a different way :). open a terminal and run sudo aptitude install smbfs
[03:59] <rww> !enter > Ruby (Please see the private message from the bot)
[03:59] <sebsebseb> kitty_: is  your issues a more general Linux one?
[03:59] <Ruby> If I try to use the upper bar it gives Could not display "filepath" Error: Failed to mount Windows share Please select another viewer and try again
[03:59] <smil3y> chameleon>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:00] <sebsebseb> cabrey: she installed samba-common  is that the correct thing?
[04:00] <kitty_> http://pastebin.com/f3e622b00
[04:00] <cabrey> sebsebseb, we want smbfs
[04:00] <Zencyde> I was on here a few weeks ago and remembered seeing someone mention a guide to fixing that issue where master volume is muted on startup.
[04:00] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok my fault,  I haven't done this for a while
[04:00] <smil3y> chameleon> if you install outside repos your not going to get updates
[04:00] <kitty_> i got it to launch x finally, but it is out of monitor sync so i just get the black screen o death
[04:00] <sebsebseb> cabrey: :)
[04:00] <sebsebseb> cabrey: thanks
[04:01] <sebsebseb> Ruby: sudo apt-get install smbfs
[04:01] <Ruby> just had it do
[04:01] <Zencyde> Would anyone happen to know how to fix this problem or where the solution lies?
[04:01] <Ruby> wait
[04:01] <Ruby> I did sudo aptitude install smbfs
[04:01] <cabrey> Ruby, after that is installed you'll need to make a folder (call it anything, like share for example) in /media
[04:01] <cabrey> Ruby, so sudo mkdir /media/share
[04:01] <sebsebseb> cabrey: in media hmm well she is just going to share to a folder on Windows
[04:02] <Ruby> Wait
[04:02] <Ruby> should I do sudo apt-get install smbfs too
[04:02] <sebsebseb> yeas
[04:02] <Ruby> I already did sudo aptitude install smbfs
[04:02] <cabrey> Ruby, then we'll mount it via the smbfs. sudo mount -t smb -o username=USERNAME_HERE //IP.Addr.of.Computer/share /media/share
[04:02] <sebsebseb> Ruby: oh your using aptitude :)   well  for this apt-get and aptitude will do the same thing
[04:02] <cabrey> Ruby, aptitude and apt-get do the same thing
[04:02] <bullgard4> The metacity process takes 96% of CPU time. What might be the reason?
[04:03] <Ruby> wait
[04:03] <Ruby> what username
[04:03] <Ruby> the one that im moving FROM
[04:03] <Ruby> or the one that im moving TO
[04:03] <FloodBot2> Ruby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:03] <wizzo50> chameleon> You have to install the Package Installer adobe-flashplugin  http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/
[04:03] <sebsebseb> Ruby: well  aptitude is meant to be better with dependancies, so  for bigger stuff could be useful  for example kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop
[04:03] <installing-ubunt> hello, I'm trying to install 9.04 and I've run into a snag. I have two drives, an IDE and a SATA. I have XP on the 80GB IDE and I've installed Linux on the SATA. The installation worked as it's mounted in the current Live session, but no grub. can someone please give me a hand. Thanks in advance.
[04:03] <cabrey> Ruby, the username of the remote computer with privledges to copy stuff over there
[04:04] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: in what order did you install the os?
[04:04] <sebsebseb> installing-ubunt: I can't  exactly help, but I am curious about something,  maybe you have the same issue as someone else.   You have a sata hard disk,  installed Ubuntu on it?  ,but nothing will boot?
[04:04] <Ruby> So the one that I'm copying the stuff from?
[04:04] <bullgard4> installing-ubunt: In help.ubuntu.com look for Grub.
[04:04] <erik_> hi
[04:04] <wizzo50> Our Fireworks are going off now at the lake since rain canceled it Friday
[04:04] <erik_> i got the panel back
[04:05] <sebsebseb> wizzo50: ok that's like fun, but  by the way your off topic
[04:05] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: XP on the IDE and then Ubuntu on the SATA
[04:05] <sebsebseb> wizzo50: that sounds like fun above
[04:05] <cabrey> Ruby, which way do you want to go from Ubuntu -> Windows? or on Windows and retrieve from ubuntu?
[04:05] <Ruby> I'm copying the stuff from ubuntu to windows
[04:05] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: does windows boot?
[04:05] <sebsebseb> cabrey: maybe  Ubuntu to Ubuntu is better even, she dual boots
[04:05] <sebsebseb> cabrey: the other computer
[04:05] <erik_> if the panel
[04:06] <sebsebseb> cabrey: Ubuntu  to Windows and then she will clean install
[04:06] <erik_> ever disappears on xfce
[04:06] <installing-ubunt> sebsebseb: well, yes, I suppose. It's properly installed, as I can see it in the Live session, but it appears that Grub did not get installed on the MBR causing Grub not to show... but it is installed, just no option to boot linux
[04:06] <wizzo50>  chameleon> Did you get your Flashplayer installed yet? If not, read what I said above
[04:06] <erik_> run xfce4-panel
[04:06] <erik_> in terminal
[04:06] <sebsebseb> installing-ubunt: right and so your BIOS would detect it
[04:06] <Ruby> Oh dear
[04:06] <user1_> join #django
[04:06] <sebsebseb> Ruby: what happended?
[04:06] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: yes, boots just fine.... my guess is that grub isn't installed to the MBR
[04:06] <Ruby> I'm trying to copy the stuff from the old installation into the share folder
[04:06] <Ruby> And it says I don't have the permissions
[04:07] <Ruby> fffffff
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Ruby: gksudo nautiilus now you do problem solved
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Ruby: nautilus
[04:07] <C-S-B__> have you tried booting from live cd and doing a grub-install /dev/sda?
[04:07] <wizzo50> sebsebseb: Yea it is fun. Watching Larry The Cable Guy last night was more fun with his comedy jokes.
[04:07] <cyanidebubble> When i boot ubuntu 9.04 it hangs up at checking for bluetooth which i dont have, any suggestions?, ive run hardy on this same comp with no kinks....
[04:07] <sebsebseb> Ruby: be careful with that though, since  that's  root/admin for  nautilus
[04:07] <ianto> sebsebseb: Don't go advising using root privelages in nautilus!
[04:08] <sebsebseb> ianto: what are you on about?  it's  fine if they are careful
[04:08] <sooki> anyone know the app/whatever that makes gtk2 apps not look like crap in kde4?(#kubuntu's dead at the moment)
[04:08] <Ruby> Alright problem solved
[04:08] <Ruby> So
[04:08] <Ruby> Okay
[04:08] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: actually, dont do that directly, check where /boot is
[04:08] <installing-ubunt> sebsebseb: well....no, see, the board I have is A7N8X-Deluxe... it supports SATA, but it's like a secondary boot. SATA doesn't show up in the actual BIOS proper, but after memory check, the next screen is where it lists the SATA hard drive (and RAID setup)
[04:08] <Ruby> I'll tell you when I have it moved
[04:08] <Ruby> Where are bookmarks for firefox stored in ubuntu?
[04:08] <sebsebseb> Ruby: .mozilla in home a hidden folder
[04:08] <ianto> sebsebseb: Well if they need to ask how to move/copy/write to protected areas, nautilus as root isn't the best suggestion!
[04:08] <cabrey> Ruby, probably in ~/.mozilla
[04:09] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: it appears that /boot is on the SATA, if that's what you're asking
[04:09] <sebsebseb> ianto: what do you think is?
[04:09] <cabrey> ianto, well on a livecd, so doesnt matter *that* much
[04:09] <C-S-B__> and whats the location of the sata drive? /dev/sd?
[04:09] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: ^
[04:09] <Ruby> I cant find the share folder in media
[04:10] <cabrey> Ruby, did you create it first?
[04:10] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: iirc /dev/sda  for the SATA
[04:10] <sense> can someone tell me the easiest way to update ktorrent?
[04:10] <ianto> sebsebseb & cabrey: It's bad practice, surely you can help with a direct "sudo mv/cp /source /dest"
[04:10] <Ruby> I typed mkdir media/share so I assume so
[04:10] <cabrey> ianto, for new users, GUI > coreutils
[04:10] <CleanLaundry> can I get some help with these errors while trying to build a driver? http://pastebin.com/f175444ab
[04:10] <cabrey> Ruby, it's sudo mkdir /media/share, not media/share
[04:10] <sebsebseb> sense: sure from the  repo :D only thing with that is they only do security updates for it
[04:10] <Ruby> I did /media/share
[04:10] <sebsebseb> sense: maybe there's a ppa though
[04:10] <Ruby> My apologies
[04:11] <sebsebseb> !ppa >  sense
[04:11] <Ruby> Aha
[04:11] <Ruby> it said permission denied
[04:11] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: try using grub-install /dev/sda
[04:11] <cabrey> Ruby, and there were no errors when mounting?
[04:11] <RheaChiQ> hello guys how to download all updates?
[04:11] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: from this live session ?
[04:11] <C-S-B__> yeah
[04:11] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, System > Administration > Update Manager
[04:11] <Ruby> Havnt mounted
[04:11] <Ruby> as you have not told me which username to put
[04:12] <RheaChiQ> hello guys how to download all updates?my wireless seems not working now.before when i install 9.04, it auto detect wireless and i have already wireless software isntalled near at clock..
[04:12] <Ruby> I'm moving from ubuntu to windows
[04:12] <cabrey> Ruby, the computer you are copying files to, is it a vista computer?
[04:12] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: before I do this, can you refresh my memory on how to check each device ?
[04:12] <[Pwner]John> anyone?
[04:12] <[Pwner]John> :(
[04:12] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : done that but i already update it.i just want to update it all so that maybe i could get the wireless application installed.
[04:12] <Ruby> Yes
[04:12] <cabrey> Ruby, and what username do you log in with?
[04:12] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: what do you mean?
[04:12] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, what wireless hardware do you have?
[04:13] <Ruby> Administrator
[04:13] <Ruby> Although the computers name is set to AM
[04:13] <Ruby> Or do you mean the ubuntu computer
[04:13] <wermse> does anyone know what i can do to be able to boot off of a usb drive with a motherboard that is unable to boot from usb?
[04:13] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : broadcom i guess
[04:13] <cabrey> Ruby, ok so you would use sudo mount -t smb -o username=Administrator //ip.addr.remote.computer/share /media/share
[04:13] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: how do I double check each disk, to make sure the SATA is sda rather than 'b' ?
[04:13] <ianto> Ruby: Lesson 1, never use the admin account in Vista, that is a serious design flaw
[04:13] <kitty_> someone please, just shoot me!
[04:13] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, you need to be more specific
[04:13] <sebsebseb> Ruby: yeah don't run Windows as admin unless your installing programs,  big tip
[04:13] <C-S-B__> you can right click properties, i think that tells you
[04:14] <sebsebseb> Ruby: the reason  so many viruses and such exist for WIndows in the first place is, because most users run as the admin account
[04:14] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : but there is no problem before when i just update all..why now i have problem?its a 2nd install bte
[04:14] <Ruby> Common sense is the best anti virus
[04:14] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: or you can check /etc/fstab to see where its mounted
[04:14] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : how to now the wireless?im sure its broadcom
[04:14] <sebsebseb> Ruby: which is not to run admin in Windows, unless it's needed for example to install or uninstall a program
[04:15] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, broadcom is a very generic term, can we have the model number?
[04:15] <sebsebseb> Ruby: use a limited account otherwise
[04:15] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: also blkid
[04:15] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : how to know the model?
[04:15] <[Pwner]John> whats the program that allows ubuntu to run the same time as windows?
[04:15] <wizzo50> Help
[04:15] <Ruby> Anyway
[04:15] <Ruby> I just tried
[04:15] <Ruby> Unknown filesystem type "smb"
[04:15] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, erm look at the card? or try lspci | grep Wireless
[04:15] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : lenovo 14002
[04:16] <cabrey> Ruby, hmm maybe it is sudo mount -t smbfs <snip>
[04:16] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: ok, so the SATA is sda and the IDE is sdb... windows is on sdb and linux is on sda
[04:16] <C-S-B__> [Pwner]John: bsod.sh lol
[04:16] <Ruby> uh
[04:16] <Ruby> it wants me to enter a password
[04:16] <smil3y> [Pwner]John>  virtualbox, qemu, vmware, take your pick
[04:16] <bullgard4> The metacity process takes 96% of CPU time. What might be the reason?
[04:16] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : $ lspci | grep Broadcom\ Corporation 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
[04:16] <Ruby> which computers password should I be entering
[04:16] <sebsebseb> Ruby: the Windows one
[04:17] <cabrey> Ruby, the password you use to log into vista
[04:17] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : it was easy before.when i installed ubuntu 9.04 and update it, i already have wireless selection in the clock area
[04:17] <Ruby> Connection refused
[04:17] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, have you tried going to System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[04:17] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: try installing grub to sda's mbr
[04:17] <Ruby> gee
[04:17] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: I'm assuming I want "grub-install /dev/sdb"
[04:17] <wizzo50> Is there a data saver program that can be ran in here to store usernames and passwords in it like Firefox Mozillia has so you can just click on the name you put it under and it automatically puts them in there , password and username?
[04:17] <Ruby> this sure would be alot easier if I had my flash drive
[04:17] <sebsebseb> Ruby: yeah I was thinking that just now as well
[04:17] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: if thats where you want your computer to boot grub from
[04:18] <Ruby> I need to find it :/
[04:18] <sebsebseb> Ruby: try  smb://internal ip address again in the location bar
[04:18] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: you could install it to sda and tell your computer to boot from the sata drive
[04:18] <Ruby> Give me a minute to scramble around
[04:18] <Ruby> trying to find it
[04:18] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: ....interesting
[04:18] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: in your bios
[04:18] <wermse> does anyone think, that if i try an ubuntu livecd instead of just a normal server install cd, that i'd have any more luck with it detecting the cdrom, or would i just be wasting a cd?
[04:18] <Ruby> wat
[04:18] <wizzo50> any help or answers to my question above
[04:19] <Ruby> Could not display smb -snip
[04:19] <Ruby> Error failed to retrieve share list from server
[04:19] <kasperooney> can someone help me please - i lost sound suddenly on ubuntu 9.10
[04:19] <danbhfive> wizzo50: arent you using firefox?
[04:19] <Ruby> please select another viewer and try again
[04:19] <wizzo50> yes
[04:19] <installing-ubunt> C-S-B__: well, I'll have to check, see my BIOS doesn't see the SATA drives, but I think it's in the boot order... but I'll do some investigating and thanks for the help. you may see me again, ;) lol
[04:20] <danbhfive> wizzo50: so, you answered your own question?
[04:20] <kasperooney> i was just watching a movie and then restarted and then suddenly the sound was lost...plz give a solution for this
[04:20] <furrySatan> does anyone know about intel drivers on ubuntu?
[04:20] <furrySatan> video drivers i mean
[04:20] <cabrey> Ruby, you dont actually type out <snip>
[04:20] <wizzo50> I have it in there, but I am talking about when you 1st load Ubuntu to save your usernamd and paswword and not have to type it in everytime?
[04:20] <danbhfive> wermse: I don't think the livecd will do you any better
[04:20] <C-S-B__> installing-ubunt: no worries, you can always manually install grub and you could always make a boot partition on the ide drive if the worst came to the worst, just as long as grub see the sata, which it should
[04:21] <[Pwner]John> anyone?
[04:21] <[Pwner]John> :(
[04:21] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : its now downloading in hardware.. why is i like this?before i didnt go there.it was already installed...i choose main sever to update ll packages
[04:21] <wermse> does anyone have any other ideas as to how i could manage to get ubuntu installed.  i can get into the installer just fine, but when it gets to the mounting cdrom step it dies on me saying it cant find a cdrom.  i've tried various boot parameters in grub, it seems my machine can't boot from a usb drive although i do have a usb drive with the install cd on it.
[04:21] <ivan__> how do you find out the wireless link you computer uses if it is built in to the computer
[04:21] <C-S-B__> [Pwner]John: whats the prob?
[04:21] <Ruby> wait
[04:21] <Ruby> then what is snip
[04:21] <wizzo50> danbhfive: I have it in there, but I am talking about when you 1st load Ubuntu to save your usernamd and paswword and not have to type it in everytime?
[04:21] <Ruby> Curse words?
[04:21] <smil3y> [Pwner]John>  anyone what?
[04:22] <kasperooney> wow there sure are a lot of questions in here....no one has answer to my sound problem/
[04:22] <danbhfive> wizzo50: you mean when it asks for the master password?
[04:22] <cabrey> Ruby, no just so I didn't have to type out that long command again, apparently more trouble than it's worth
[04:23] <sense> I am trying to install something and it says i need to get development packages (Qt,KDE,libgmp,QCA2) how do i get them
[04:23] <oldude67> kasperooney, try typing alsa reload into terminal and see if it helps.
[04:23] <C-S-B__> how can I keep my wifi connection when i close the lid on my ac powered netbook?
[04:23] <smil3y> sense>  your trying to compile something?
[04:23] <sense> yea...new ver of ktorrent
[04:23] <sense> unless there is an easier way to get it
[04:24] <Ruby> I suppose I can try to find my flash drive
[04:24] <RheaChiQ> sense : ktorrent is cli torrent?
[04:24] <smil3y> sense> im sure theres a deb somewhere
[04:24] <Ruby> if all else I'll buy a new one
[04:24] <kitty_> C-S-B you may have that setting in your bios, or you may have a large enough ground field in the back panel of your lid (aluminum) to kill the weaker signal that you're connected to
[04:24] <RheaChiQ> sense : how to install a cli torrent?
[04:24] <C-S-B__> sense: sure theres not a prebuilt deb in launchpad
[04:24] <sebsebseb> Ruby: nearly there I think
[04:24] <sense> i just need to upgrade it, i dont know how
[04:24] <kasperooney> oldude67: nope that didnt work....do i have to restart again?
[04:24] <smil3y> sense>  maybe an ubuntu ppa or something check the ktorrent website
[04:24] <cabrey> Ruby, you want sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=Administration //ip.address.remote.computer/share /media/share
[04:24] <C-S-B__> kitty_: it's local to ubuntu...
[04:24] <cabrey> s/Administration/Administrator
[04:25] <smil3y> sense>  no idea, wheres the page your looking at?
[04:25] <Ruby> Yeah I think the remote IP address isnt right
[04:25] <sebsebseb> Ruby: you have to  edit his command a little bit as well
[04:25] <kitty_> do you mean the problem only occurs in ubuntu or that you're wifi hotspot is close to your ubuntu box?
[04:25] <sense> smil3y: http://ktorrent.org/?q=downloads
[04:25] <Ruby> because I tried just smb://(ip) and it gave errors both times I tried to navigate
[04:25] <cabrey> Ruby, run ipconfig on the Windows computer and that'll give it to you
[04:25] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : what is the best music player and movie player to install in 9.04?
[04:25] <fotoflo> which version of apache does 8.04 use?
[04:25] <sebsebseb> !best |  RheaChiQ
[04:25] <fotoflo> 2.0 or 2.2?
[04:25] <wizzo50> danbhfive: Yes, the 1st 2 pages asking user name and pasword . So I was wondering if there is a program to remember them for the next time you power the computer on and I select Ubuntu and then it ask for the username and pasword, so that is where I was wanting to know if there is a program to run at that time to autimatically put it in there.
[04:25] <Ruby> Yeah I tried the ipv4 address and another address and they didnt work
[04:25] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: install these :)  banshee vlc and  mplayer
[04:26] <C-S-B__> kitty, the connection only drops when the lid is closed in ubuntu, maybe a power feature?
[04:26] <sebsebseb> Ruby: you can pastebin the  output of  your  ipconfig command,  and show us
[04:26] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, is your wireless working?
[04:26] <sebsebseb> Ruby: and we can tell you which one to use
[04:26] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  Ruby
[04:26] <ianto> fotoflo: 2.2.8
[04:26] <sense> smil3y: its in add/remove programs but i just want to update
[04:26] <kitty_> i still trying to figure out how to specify an exact refresh rate and screen resolution for X to use in the xorg.conf
[04:27] <Ruby> Look well
[04:27] <ianto> fotoflo: Apache version 2.2.8 ^
[04:27] <Ruby> Thanks for the help guys but I'll just try to find that flash drive
[04:27] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : i didnt see wizard that tells if its done or not..do i need to reboot? :)
[04:27] <PlasmaSheep> How could I make ubuntu wake up on schedule?
[04:27] <sebsebseb> Ruby: hang on
[04:27] <RheaChiQ> sebsebseb sebastian thanks im downloading it now :)
[04:27] <sebsebseb> Ruby: your close now you really are, if you don't just give up yet, also this is good for learning
[04:27] <PlasmaSheep> How could I make ubuntu wake up on schedule and run a program?
[04:27] <fotoflo> ianto: thanks
[04:27] <Ruby> Because it seems my lazy method is actually the harder and more tedious method
[04:27] <Ruby> Alright, how do I copy stuff in the windows commandline
[04:27] <wizzo50> danbhfive: Did you get my statement question above?
[04:28] <kitty_> PlasmaSheep, man chron ?
[04:28] <dassouki> is there anyone that can help me wiht my webcam
[04:28] <C-S-B__> Ruby: copy <from> <to>
[04:28] <sebsebseb> Ruby: the thing the bot gave,  talked about uploading screenshots as well,  you can upload a screenshot
[04:28] <dassouki> it doesn't work on 9.04
[04:28] <danbhfive> wizzo50: do this is not a firefox password.  This is ubuntu asking, right?  I think there is a program that let's you change your main password.  You should change it to a blank password, by deleting it, and then entering a blank at next boot
[04:28] <kitty_> you might be using foxycron or anacron or something else but they're all time based daemons
[04:28] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: does cron wake the system up from sleep?
[04:28] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, uhh does it say activated?
[04:28] <kitty_> nope, don't put it to sleep if you want it to wake up
[04:28] <kitty_> your bios might have that ability
[04:29] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: well, that's completely unhelpful, considering that's what I asked
[04:29] <kitty_> but as for ubuntu, once your cpu stops cycling, its not gonna do anything
[04:29] <Ruby> http://paste.ubuntu.com/210886/
[04:29] <C-S-B__> PlasmaSheep: maybe use another pc to w-o-l?
[04:29] <ianto> danbhfive!!!! NEVER tell a user to change his password to something blank!!!!
[04:29] <janos> does anybody know to kill a process that listens on a known port?
[04:29] <kitty_> setup wake on lan, go over to another computer that'll be on 24.7 and setup a cron job there
[04:29] <sense> smil3y: do you see where im talking about
[04:29] <PlasmaSheep> I don't care if I need to do it via ubuntu, I mean AT ALL
[04:29] <PlasmaSheep> without another machine, C-S-B__
[04:29]  * kitty_ shoos PlasmaSheep away
[04:29] <wizzo50> danbhfive: I don't want to change any words, I just want something to memorize it so I don't loose it and it automatically puts them in there for you
[04:29] <Ruby> I tried 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.4
[04:30] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: what?
[04:30] <legend2440> wizzo50: if your asking if ubuntu has autologin yes it does open  system>admin>login Window>security Enable  Auto Login
[04:30] <oldude67> kasperooney, try alsa unload alsa reload.
[04:30] <kitty_> check your bios, or just live with the computer being on
[04:30] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: You can't take someone saying "how can I do X" and tell him "DUN DO Y SO Z OLOLOLOLZ"
[04:30] <oldude67> that should stop whats using it.
[04:30] <wizzo50> yea
[04:31] <C-S-B__> PlasmaSheep: if the machine is asleep, only the ram and nic are going to have power, iirc, therefore bringing it's self out of sleep would have to be a bios thing..
[04:31] <kitty_> plasmasheep no, you're asking the impossible
[04:31] <smil3y> sense>  yeah i was just looking around, look at this, theres a ppa repo
[04:31] <danbhfive> wizzo50: I don't think I get it then, sorry
[04:31] <kitty_> actually the usb will as well
[04:31] <dassouki> is there anyone taht can help a newb with camera
[04:31] <smil3y> sense> http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2896&sid=8b2e30e34c8929152ca75fa1889a13ef
[04:31] <wizzo50> Where you go to enable Auto Login
[04:31] <PlasmaSheep> C-S-B__: Is there a guide on how to do this via the BIOS?
[04:31] <bsmith_> Hi I am attempting to setup a basic webserver using a Linux WRT54G router, ubuntu 9.04 32-bit server edition, and the howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.04-ipconfig-3.  I just got started and can't set up the openssh.  Can someone help?
[04:31] <cabrey> wizzo50, System > Administration > Login Windows
[04:31] <kitty_> but if you're not gonna use another box, its pretty pointless to consider any of those options to boot it up
[04:31] <legend2440> wizzo50: i open  system>admin>login Window>security Enable  Auto Login
[04:31] <cabrey> s/Login Windows/Login Window
[04:31] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok   a lot of that is unessary, so  I really don't blame you for getting confussed
[04:31] <C-S-B__> PlasmaSheep: I dont know your bios or if it could do it im afraid...
[04:31] <kitty_> hey i have an idea, you could make an alarm clock, that is wired up to your power button! yeah yeah
[04:32] <sebsebseb> Ruby: well maybe not confussed, but not being  exactly sure which ip to use
[04:32] <hacim> i'm on hardy, do I need to upgrade to ibex before going to jaunty/
[04:32] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : yes it says activated and already using it. but when i check the wireless at the time clock, its not working there..i couldnt see any available wireless ssid names there... :)
[04:32] <Ruby> yeah
[04:32] <PlasmaSheep> C-S-B__: okay, and is there a way to execute a command when it wakes up from sleep (is cron started again?)
[04:32] <bishop> joining
[04:32] <sebsebseb> Ruby: you talked about  your router config page earlier,  if you access that,  it will probably say the internal ip addreses for each computer
[04:32] <kitty_> cron never stopped
[04:32] <kitty_> and yes you can have it do "catchup" or "if missed" schedules
[04:32] <C-S-B__> PlasmaSheep: anacron iirc performs all tasks it couldnt do while asleep
[04:33] <PlasmaSheep> C-S-B__: cool, thanks
[04:33] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: no thanks to you
[04:33] <kitty_> oh waaa plasma
[04:33] <kitty_> my feelings are so hurt
[04:33] <sense> smil3y: hey
[04:33] <sense> smil3y: what do you mean theres a ppa?
[04:33] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, then how are you using it?
[04:33] <Ruby> No dice.
[04:34] <fotoflo> hmm, i am a system admin and I would like to restrict users so that they can only read files from a directory at a rate of x files per hour...
[04:34] <fotoflo> any way to do that?
[04:34] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: go tell someone else to "GO BY A NW CARD SO U DUN NEED TO FIX DRIVERS LOLOL IM GENUS LOLOLOZ"
[04:34] <ninjafury> hello I need some help getting suspend to work with my laptop, google/forums were no help. details:
[04:34] <PlasmaSheep> I'm sure everyone will love you
[04:34] <kitty_> what the hell is your problem plasma?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> Ruby: in your browser put  192.168.1.1
[04:34] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: People like you that give "support".
[04:34] <mralexandro> i need help writing permision to folder: /usr/share/vuze
[04:34] <sebsebseb> Ruby: and hopefuly that will bring up the page
[04:35] <PlasmaSheep> You don't help, you just tell people not to bother you.
[04:35] <wizzo50> legend2440: Where does it ask to put your password at up there in the   system>admin>login Window>security Enable  Auto Login
[04:35] <kitty_> well plasma, you don't seem to listen when people tell you that "thats not possible"
[04:35] <ninjafury> jaunty 64, with latest nvidia (binary) drivers, the laptop can suspend if I explicitly click suspend, it won't do it automatically. when battery is very low it auto-shuts down instead of suspending. how do i fix this?
[04:35] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: You don't need to tell me it's not possible when you clearly you have no idea what you are talking about.
[04:35] <Ruby> yeah
[04:35] <Ruby> It did
[04:35] <Ruby> but theres nothing I could find
[04:35] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok good
[04:35] <kitty_> i donno, telling you that your cpu stops cycling when your computer is in sleep mode, didn't really mean anything to you, so what am i gonna do
[04:35] <sense> can anyone tell me how to use ppa?
[04:35] <Ruby> it listed a couple of addresses
[04:36] <Ruby> I tried them
[04:36] <Ruby> no dice.
[04:36] <FloodBot2> Ruby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:36] <kitty_> plasma, you can wake up too
[04:36] <wizzo50> legend2440: Where does it ask to put your password at up there in the   system>admin>login Window>security Enable  Auto Login
[04:36] <sebsebseb> Ruby: now getting some where I think
[04:36] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: If I need to do this at a specific time, I probably can't do that.
[04:36] <PlasmaSheep> C-S-B__ is a great example of how to give support, kitty_.
[04:36] <PlasmaSheep> Learn something.
[04:36] <kitty_> then you'll need to leave the computer on, bravo, this sounds sooo familiar
[04:36] <ninjafury> can anyone help, i have no idea how to solve this?
[04:37] <sebsebseb> Ruby: smb://internal ip address
[04:37] <kitty_> plasmasheep, you really are dense yeah?
[04:37] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: Brill- oh, wait, that's not what I asked for...
[04:37] <sebsebseb> Ruby: in the bar try each one
[04:37] <sense> smil3y: how do i use the ppa
[04:37] <legend2440> wizzo50: it doesnt just use dropdown box to choose user you want to be able to Auto Login
[04:37] <Ahadiel> ninjafury, Do you have it set in gnome-power-manager to suspend on low battery?
[04:37] <mralexandro> legend2440, :D hey again:)
[04:37] <smil3y> sense>  personal packages archive
[04:37] <ninjafury> Ahadiel, i'll check
[04:37] <bsmith_> can anyone help I've posted above but no one has responded?
[04:37] <Ruby> I did
[04:37] <mralexandro> legend2440, fixed the synaptis issue:D
[04:37] <legend2440> mralexandro: hi
[04:37] <Ruby> Didn't work
[04:38] <Ruby> Thats what I've been doing, actually
[04:38] <legend2440> mralexandro: good
[04:38] <kitty_> so back to suggesting to xorg the exact refresh rate and monitor resolution to use in the xorg.conf file, anyone got suggestions?
[04:38] <sense> smil3y: how can i use/get it?
[04:38] <Ruby> And brb, trying to cope with the brain cell loss suffered from reading posts by an internet tough guy
[04:38] <mralexandro> legend2440,  now i have luxus problems:) can you help me on how to write permitions on to following folder: /usr/share/vuze
[04:38] <PlasmaSheep> kitty_: Buy a new computer and the problem will go away.
[04:39] <sebsebseb> Ruby: by  an  iternet tough guy?
[04:39] <Ruby> Internet tough guy; the kind of guy who threatens to beat you up or kill you, on the internet.
[04:39] <mralexandro> Ruby,  hehe:D
[04:39] <Ruby> IE: who the hell you think you are...............a senior member or a critic......................so shut up and dont enter to my posts or i will fuck you up.
[04:39] <ninjafury> Ahadiel, no i just did though, but even when it tries to auto-suspend, the screen goes blank with a shell cursor and thats it, cpu is still running. so battery will die and system just dies.
[04:39] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: hello, it's me, installing-ubuntu
[04:40] <rww> !guidelines | Ruby: It would be a really good idea for you to read these now
[04:40] <Zencyde> Ruby will fuck you up. Ruby will rail you.
[04:40] <Ahadiel> ninjafury, I'm not sure then. Never had any issues with suspend myself.
[04:40] <sebsebseb> Ruby: uhmm  an odd thing to say,  and I never did anything like that :)
[04:40] <ianto> Zencyde: ++ for the Rails quote
[04:40] <Zencyde> You're welcome. :)
[04:40] <Ruby> Other tactics include saying that they live near/are friends with/is a relative to the creator of the forum
[04:40] <Ruby> I'm not saying you did
[04:40] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: as you can see, I did find the boot device and get booted into the OS, however, when I select the XP option, XP doesn't boot, black screen
[04:40] <Ruby> I'm multitasking
[04:40] <ninjafury> thanks Ahadiel, can anyone else help?
[04:40] <Ruby> I'm reading forums
[04:40] <FloodBot2> Ruby: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:40] <C-S-B__> hi tristanmike]
[04:40] <C-S-B__> so ubuntu is working off grub?
[04:41] <smil3y> sense>  you may want to try here  #kubuntu
[04:41] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: yeppers :)
[04:41] <smil3y> !kubuntu
[04:41] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: ok, so you dont get anything from windows?
[04:41] <wizzo50> lengend2440> Right, Auto login when I first power the computer and I select Ubuntu between Windows XP or Ubuntu. Then when it loads the page, it asks for a User name and password. So I want to make Ubuntu ro remember it from now on each time I log in on Ubuntu and that I don't have to type it in there everytime. Like what Firefox has too
[04:41] <ninjafury> who should I ask for help, so I cn get their attention?
[04:41] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: no, not when I select the XP option from Grub, I'm sure if I change the boot order again, I'll get windows,
[04:41] <sense> smil3y: thanks
[04:42] <C-S-B__> grub can boot xp no prob
[04:42] <smil3y> sense>  im sure theres a ppa repo for testing debs, im not gonna google all nite for it though lol, tried long enough
[04:42] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: I do see my Windows drive in Ubuntu, which is good
[04:42] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: I know it can, it just isn't right now
[04:42] <Ruby> My head still hurts from argueing with the christian extremists who claimed that dinosaurs ran around when adam and eve existed and that they were herbivores and had sharp teeth to puncture coconuts and then telling me to give them a video of a fish morphing into another animal
[04:42] <C-S-B__> whats the config in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:42] <Ruby> I pretty much gave up all hope in humanity at that point, but anyway I'm veering off topic
[04:42] <wip> hi everyone, i need to have /dev/video1394-0 to /dev/video1394/0. how?
[04:42] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: ^
[04:43] <jreyes33> Hello all. I'm having problems with Dropbox. It won't run. The icon appears for a second in the system tray and then disappears
[04:43] <rww> Ruby: seriously, reading the guidelines would be an /excellent/ idea
[04:43] <ianto> Ruby: Do you need a therapist? :)
[04:43] <Ruby> Probably
[04:43] <mralexandro> legend2440,  i found it sudo chown -R 777 /usr/share/vuze
[04:43] <ninjafury> pretty please :) I can't get my laptop to auto suspend properly, can someone please help?
[04:43] <smil3y> jreyes33>  never used it, but may want to start it from a terminal and see the error messages there
[04:43] <Ruby> I know for a fact that I suffer from OCD, along with a myriad of other possible disorders.
[04:43] <wip> is a symbolic link enough?
[04:43] <mralexandro> legend2440, sorry should have googled first
[04:43] <mralexandro> :D
[04:43] <C-S-B__> PlasmaSheep: as a thought, do you have an openwrt/dd-wrt style router? you could setup a cron job on that to ping your computer and wake-on-lan
[04:43] <sebsebseb> Ruby: well this was worth a try, but  I give up now,  well good luck with finding your USB stick or buying a new one, so you can put the data on that instead
[04:44] <Ruby> Yeah
[04:44] <Ruby> Thanks for the help man
[04:44] <Ruby> I did appreciate it
[04:44] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210892/
[04:44] <[Pwner]John> Anyone know the program?
[04:44] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: would the hard drive have to be in the boot order in the BIOS ?
[04:44] <wizzo50> legend2440:  Did you see my message above?
[04:45] <smil3y> [Pwner]John>  what program
[04:45] <sebsebseb> !scp |  Ruby
[04:45] <sebsebseb> Ruby: don't remember how though
[04:45] <sebsebseb> Ruby: probably best to just use USB stick in your case :)
[04:45] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: your computer is picking it up, so it should be ok
[04:45] <Ruby> Yeah
[04:45] <Ruby> Hm
[04:45] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : maybe restart is the solution?
[04:45] <RheaChiQ> careby : let me restart it :)
[04:45] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, try it
[04:46] <Ruby> is there any possibility of hooking two computers together and having one of them treat the other as a USB stick or external HDD?
[04:46] <legend2440> wizzo50: did you enable Auto Login in  System>Admin>login Window>Security?
[04:46] <[Pwner]John> the
[04:46] <[Pwner]John> program
[04:46] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : but you know some cli torrent?
[04:46] <[Pwner]John> that let
[04:46] <[Pwner]John> s
[04:46] <FloodBot2> [Pwner]John: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:46] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: yeah, it's the right device...again, perhaps the drive needs to be in the boot order, afer the sata ??
[04:46] <[Pwner]John> ubuntu and windows run at the same time
[04:46] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : how to install cli torrent?i have limited resources so i need cli torrent.. :)
[04:46] <[Pwner]John> ?_?
[04:46] <ianto> Ruby: If you're feeling really adventurous you could take one hdd out of one pc and put it in the other and transfer files between hdds
[04:46] <Ruby> Whelp
[04:47] <danbhfive> Ruby: er, maybe an SATA/IDE to usb converter?
[04:47] <Ruby> Yeah the only problem is that one is a laptop
[04:47] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: shouldnt make a difference, the bios boot order is only used if the first bootable device isnt present
[04:47] <Ruby> I could probably get away with it but my mother would have a freakout
[04:47] <smil3y> [Pwner]John>  virtualbox, qemu, vmware like i said before
[04:47] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, use rtorrent
[04:47] <Ruby> Well
[04:47] <wizzo50> legend2440: Yes I enable Auto Login
[04:47] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: that's what I would think, just throwing it out there
[04:47] <Ruby> Time for the (possibly) easier ordeal; Installing ubuntu 64bit on my second HDD
[04:47] <smil3y> [Pwner]John>  take your pick any will work
[04:48] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: after selecting the XP option, I see the words "Starting up..." then the screen blinks to black and nadda
[04:48] <[Pwner]John> smil3y
[04:48] <[Pwner]John> give me an example
[04:48] <[Pwner]John> ;D
[04:48] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: try booting into the windows disc and doing a fixmbr on in the repair console
[04:48] <ianto> Ruby: Right, from what to what do you want to transfer the data?
[04:48] <legend2440> wizzo50: sorry i dont dual boot windows and ubuntu. maybe that makes a difference in how you do it. not sure
[04:49] <wizzo50> ok
[04:49] <justfil>  After installing the Nvidia driver fonts gone terribly small, what caused this? I am using Debian but I guess i can ask you Ubuntu guys too =)
[04:49] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: I didn't do the command earlier, in case you think I did
[04:49] <smil3y> !ask | [Pwner]John
[04:49] <wizzo50> How you do it?
[04:49] <Ruby> Hopefully I can get 64bit working on my second HDD before sleep deprivation induced auditory hallucinations kick in
[04:49] <danbhfive> justfil: maybe your resolution just went up?
[04:49] <mralexandro> by typing in sudo chown -R 777 /usr/share/vuze i did not fix my problem. i want the torrent program vuze to be able to uppgrade it self. it wont!!
[04:49] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : thanks :) im downloading it now sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[04:49] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: ok ignore what i just said...
[04:50] <[Pwner]John> so... you dont know the answer?
[04:50] <justfil> well... no, it's still 1280x1024@85
[04:50] <[Pwner]John> lol
[04:50] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: I figured that's what the fixmbr
[04:50] <sebsebseb> Ruby: How much RAM do you have?
[04:50] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: so you got grub booting by changing the boot priority was?
[04:50] <Ruby> 4 gb
[04:50] <wizzo50> legend2448> How do you do yours?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> Ruby: ok
[04:51] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: that's correct, from floppy/cdrom/hdd to floppy/cdrom/scsi (which is scsi/sata on my board)
[04:51] <legend2440> wizzo50: i already told you how i enabled auto login in ubuntu  open  system>admin>login Window>security Enable  Auto Login
[04:51] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: awesome
[04:51] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: then grub boots up fine, and into linux, etc... selecting the XP option yeilds "Starting up...." then black screen"
[04:51] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: LOL
[04:51] <wizzo50> oh, ok
[04:53] <danbhfive> tristanmike: have you pastebin'ed your menu.lst yet?
[04:53] <hacim> i'm on hardy, do I need to upgrade to ibex before going to jaunty?
[04:53] <mralexandro> found it, to change permission to folder type sudo chmod -R 777 /usr/share/vuze
[04:53] <mralexandro> so chmod not chown
[04:53] <sebsebseb> hacim: yes, but
[04:53] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: have you tried a chkdsk -r ?
[04:53] <tristanmike> danbhfive: the XP section, yes
[04:53] <smil3y> hacim>  yes
[04:54] <bastidrazor> hacim, yes, if you have a seperate /home partition a reinstall is less painful.
[04:54] <Ruby> Gee
[04:54] <Ruby> I owe my procrastinating self
[04:54] <Ruby> I've been working all day on this stupidity
[04:54] <hacim> smil3y: but?
[04:54] <Ruby> tomorrow I get to play prototype all day
[04:54] <wizzo50> legend2440: How do you put your password in there where you say?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> hacim:  upgrading 8.10 to 9.04 isn't quite worth the upgrade,  espesially  when  you been using  8.04 all this time
[04:54] <tristanmike> danbhfive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210892/
[04:54] <sebsebseb> hacim: also once 9.10 is released at the end of October people need to clean install anyway for full Ext4 support
[04:55] <giaco> I need to update dvn to 1.6, how can I do this?
[04:55] <smil3y> hacim>  yes?
[04:55] <legend2440> wizzo50: it doesnt ask for password   just use dropdown box to choose user you want to be able to Auto Login
[04:55] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: apparently a fresh 9.04 does not come with chkdsk, lol
[04:55] <sebsebseb> hacim: also  there has been an issue that I got on the computer, but also other people, where they upgraded 8.04  to 8.10, but then lost their Internet conneciton
[04:55] <wizzo50> legend2440: ok, Thanks. I'll try this now.
[04:55] <sebsebseb> hacim: that I got on the other computer above
[04:55] <danbhfive> tristanmike: yeah, it looks like you are busting out the various tricks.
[04:56] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: its ms windows tool :P, try that then do fixmbr from the windows repair console. :)
[04:56] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: oh, duh.....
[04:57] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: in fact, firstly just try a fixmbr
[04:57] <wip> anyone have knowledge on firewire and ubuntu? i don't have /dev/dv1394?
[04:57] <danbhfive> tristanmike: be aware, fixmbr will remove grub
[04:58] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: yeh true, but if windows doesnt boot, you know thats where the prob is
[04:58] <C-S-B__> so you can choose to repair that then reinstate grub
[04:59] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: danbhfive, windows would boot if I change the boot order
[04:59] <C-S-B__> tristan are you sure?
[04:59] <danbhfive> tristanmike: boot order?  is that a bios setting?
[05:00] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: tell you in 5 minutes...be right back
[05:00] <tristanmike> danbhfive: I'll explain in just a moment
[05:00] <C-S-B__> danbhfive: yes it is
[05:01] <C-S-B__> danbhfive: maybe his boot.ini is broke?
[05:02] <danbhfive> C-S-B__: o, I've no idea about that.  Though, I have heard that windows can be finicky with grub sometimes
[05:04] <C-S-B__> danbhfive: youre right about that, unlike linux it has to be on a primary partition, doesnt like not being in certain configs etc..
[05:05] <mazda01> root crontab not running but it runs from command line. this is what it is: 0 6 * * *  root /usr/local/bin/automysqlbackup.sh
[05:06] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : how to install flash player / shackwave ? so that i could play swf and other movie player and adobe player
[05:06] <RheaChiQ> :)
[05:06] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:06] <Rapet0u> anyone has a solution to fix the mouse lag?
[05:06] <mazda01> someone help me out with the root crontab not running?
[05:07] <aditya_> i lost sound suddenly in jaunty...can someone help?
[05:07] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : thanks :) any other packages that needs to be installed? :)
[05:07] <aditya_> in alsamixer master is turned on but there is no sound!
[05:07] <RheaChiQ> cabrey : before i reboot :)
[05:07] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: you only re boot Ubuntu for major stuff
[05:07] <scunizi> aditya_: just a thought.. try adding the "front" volume control and turn that up.
[05:08] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: for example a kernel upgrade
[05:08] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: danbhfive, changing the boot order lets windows boot, but again, no grub, have to change the boot order to boot back into Ubuntu
[05:08] <RheaChiQ> sebsebseb : i want to reboot because of wireless.and do i need to upgrade the kernel?im not sure why i need to upgrade kernel..im using 9.04
[05:08] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: danbhfive, Ubuntu does mount the Windows drive as well
[05:09] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: how bizarre...
[05:09] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: newer kernel probably don't need that
[05:09] <RheaChiQ> sebsebseb : do i need to upgrade the kernel?
[05:09] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: that's what I was thinking
[05:09] <RheaChiQ> sebsebseb : im using 9.04 ubuntu.this is my 2nd fresh install
[05:09] <RheaChiQ> :)
[05:10] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: ok well get all the updates
[05:10] <meoblast001> hi
[05:10] <aditya_>  scunizi the volume slider is not working with up and down arrow!
[05:10] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: back up your menu.lst and try removing the 'map' lines...
[05:10] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: upgrading the kernel is only really necessary if it is included in an update..
[05:10] <meoblast001> which package do i need to install to use CGI web applications?
[05:10] <RheaChiQ> sebsebseb : how to get all updates? :)
[05:10] <RheaChiQ> scunizi : im using 9.04 ubuntu..
[05:10] <RheaChiQ> :)
[05:10] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: it should have said there were updates available after first intalling
[05:10] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: won't hurt I guess ;)
[05:10] <tristanmike> brb
[05:10] <scunizi> aditya_: are you doing this on the cli or terminal?  you can also double click the volume icon up by the clock.. sometimes that is easier.
[05:10] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: so you just have root(hd1,0) chainloader +1 etc
[05:10] <meoblast001> is there some apache mod?
[05:11] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: system > administaration > update manager
[05:11] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: doesn't matter.. the same applies to all releases
[05:11] <lstarnes> meoblast001: it depends on what language is used
[05:12] <aditya_>  scunizi: im doing it in the terminal....by client do u mean the volume control properties?
[05:12] <meoblast001> lstarnes: it's for CGIIRC.. i'm purposely using the CGIIRC that is not in the repos
[05:12] <meoblast001> but i don't know what packages i need installed and httpd-cgi has no installation candidate
[05:12] <lstarnes> meoblast001: check the first line of the .cgi files that come with it
[05:12] <meoblast001> ?
[05:12] <meoblast001> oh
[05:13] <lstarnes> meoblast001: that will tell you what the interpreter is, and thus which language it uses
[05:13] <meoblast001> #!/usr/bin/perl
[05:13] <scunizi> aditya_: never mentioned client.. just the speaker icon up by the clock.. properties yes.. you should have options to make other items visable in the display with slider volumn controls.. "front" is what I was suggestion you activate for visability then turn that up.
[05:13] <meoblast001> so perl
[05:13] <RheaChiQ> scunizi sebsebseb : do i need to install kde?i want to try kde..but it wont work "sudo apt-get install kde" :)
[05:13] <lstarnes> meoblast001: you'll probably need mod_perl for that
[05:13] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ:  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[05:14] <meoblast001> libapache2-mod-perl2?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: and once installed you change to it from  the log in screen by selecting the session
[05:14] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: do you need to .. no.. if you're confused now don't do it.. if you want to try then you can have both.. sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop .. it will take a while.
[05:14] <RheaChiQ> i want to use some less resources environment.i have a low resources.. :)
[05:14] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: and if your up for it you can try out the nice blubuntu  gdm theme :)  log in window theme
[05:14] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: then xubuntu-desktop .. that uses less
[05:14] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: ok well kubuntu isn't it then, but  xubuntu will be
[05:14] <lstarnes> meoblast001: that's probably it
[05:14] <RheaChiQ> scuniz : is it okay to install kde? :)
[05:15] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: sure.. kde xubuntu whatever desktop system you want..
[05:15] <RheaChiQ> scunizi : i can switch to gnome,kde,fluxbox or xebuntu whenever i want right?
[05:15] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: yes.
[05:15] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: but I would get use to one before trying another.. no sense in confusing yourself all at once.
[05:16] <meoblast001> lstarnes: still won't work
[05:16] <meoblast001> restarted apache too
[05:16] <cabrey> RheaChiQ, KDE is very heavy
[05:16] <RheaChiQ> scunizi : it wont mess the OS if i installed fluxbox,xubuntu,kde?
[05:16] <C-S-B__> RheaChiQ: ratpoison, use that... :) light as anything
[05:17] <scunizi> RheaChiQ: not really..
[05:17] <sebsebseb> C-S-B__: heh heh and it has  a really nice name :) :D
[05:17] <C-S-B__> RheaChiQ: you can install all you want and select your session at boot
[05:17] <aditya_>  scunizi: "front" is displayed in switches and it is checked, but there is no slider bar for that
[05:17] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi, I am having problems when i change my mac address on my wireless device, it stops being able to connect to my AP.
[05:17] <RheaChiQ> C-S-B : ok sudo apt-get install ratpoison now
[05:17] <SmoKeyCastle> my ap has currently got no security and does not restrict based on mac addresses
[05:17] <scunizi> aditya_: that just means that you have a different sound card then me.. sorry .. I tried.
[05:17] <SmoKeyCastle> how would i go about troubleshooting this?
[05:18] <lstarnes> meoblast001: you might need to add ExecCGI to the options somewhere
[05:18] <sebsebseb> RheaChiQ: you can even do the older  version of KDE,  KDE  3 if  adding the repo,  or  using that remix cd
[05:18] <sebsebseb> !kde3 |  RheaChiQ
[05:18] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: so removing the "map" lines stops the boot at "Starting up...." and it just stays on that screen
[05:18] <meoblast001> lstarnes: in my apache2 config?
[05:18] <C-S-B__> RheaChiQ: i probably wouldnt try it, it was slightly sarcastic, ratpoison is very abstract
[05:18] <lstarnes> meoblast001: but first, try sudo a2enmod mod_perl2
[05:18] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: otherwise, black screen after "Starting up..."
[05:18] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: mmm...
[05:18] <lstarnes> meoblast001: er, sudo a2enmod perl
[05:18] <meoblast001> lstarnes: ERROR: Module mod_perl2 does not exist!
[05:18] <RheaChiQ> C-S-B ok :) im still waiting for the smplayer to finish
[05:19] <meoblast001> lstarnes: Module perl already enabled
[05:19] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: whats your boot.ini?
[05:19] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: ...windows
[05:19] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi I am having trouble when i change my mac address on my wireless device. the mac shows as being changed on ifconfig but when i try to connect to my wireless ap that has no security on it the connection times out and keeps asking me for a password.
[05:19] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: ....yeah.... lol
[05:19] <Daemon_> were can i get more usplash themes with the .so file
[05:20] <meoblast001> lstarnes: i think i'm supposed to have a CGI-BIN folder
[05:20] <lstarnes> meoblast001: by default, you're supposed to keep executable scripts in /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[05:20] <meoblast001> i'll install CGIIRC from the repos then uninstall CGIIRC
[05:20] <aditya_>  scunizi: ok thanx anyway
[05:20] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: where's it located "usually" ?
[05:21] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: root
[05:21] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle have you tried rebooting your router ?
[05:21] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: the boot.ini file ?
[05:21] <SmoKeyCastle> yes, i had initially secured my router with a wep key
[05:21] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: yup.
[05:21] <SmoKeyCastle> no luck
[05:21] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: do you have another computer?
[05:21] <SmoKeyCastle> since trying to troubleshoot the issue i have removed all security on the router.
[05:22] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: no, but I can browse the Windows drive in Ubuntu
[05:22] <SmoKeyCastle> additionally when i restart the PC, the new mac gets removed and replaced with the old hardware mac
[05:22] <C-S-B__> SmoKeyCastle: Wep key is as good as no security.
[05:22] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, try this if it will work. If you have a MODEM that has a battery in it. Remove the battery or both batteries and let it sit for about 1 minute and then put the battery back in and then reboot.
[05:22] <meoblast001> lstarnes: i haven't done this in a long time so what's the URL you do for things in /usr/lib/cgi-bin?
[05:22] <C-S-B__> tristanmike:  i was thinking you could irc on a serperate  computer so you can chat while trying different configs
[05:23] <scunizi> Curly_Q: never heard of such a thing.. but then there are some strange hardware configurations out there. :)
[05:23] <Curly_Q> Most MODEMS have a DHCP server in them.
[05:23] <lstarnes> meoblast001: I'm not sure what it is by default.  it might be /cgi-bin
[05:24] <meoblast001> i'm so confused
[05:24] <the-erm> Anyone know when firefox 3.5 is going to be in the repo?
[05:24] <meoblast001> this documentation doesn't help much either
[05:24] <C-S-B__> scunizi: ive never hear of a battery in a modem either, all eeproms ive seen ...
[05:24] <meoblast001> it assumes i'm a CGI pro
[05:24] <Curly_Q> Scunizi, lots of the newer MODEMS have batteries which hold the IP address till it is re-Initialized when the battery is removed.
[05:24] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: boot.ini http://paste.ubuntu.com/210908/
[05:24] <danbhfive> !ff35 | the-erm
[05:25] <scunizi> C-S-B__: maybe in 3rd world countries where the power is unpredictable..
[05:25] <meoblast001> nevermind.. i'll work on it later
[05:25] <meoblast001> lstarnes: thanks for helping me with the packages
[05:25] <scunizi> C-S-B__: still eproms work much better ..
[05:25] <Curly_Q> It is somewhat like a CMOS BIOS battery holding a password protect.
[05:25] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: maybe its because win thinks it's booting from the first disk...
[05:26] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: interesting idea...
[05:27] <akore> ok, I am sick of downloading apps illegaly
[05:27] <akore> Im going to try using ubuntu now
[05:27] <scunizi> akore: you'll be much happier :)
[05:27] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: change rdisk to (1) set grub hdd to be bootable in your bios and try that
[05:27] <akore> all of my files are on the windows ntfs partition, and I want to integrate that into linux, so it's the default for everything
[05:28] <akore> I dont want to move the location, and would like to continue saving files to that ntfs area
[05:28] <akore> this /home this keeps popping up though
[05:28] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: on both lines ?
[05:28] <brodymcd> hi all: I have a Dell Inspiron 1526 I am dual booting Vista (yuck, came with it) and Ubuntu 8.10... not using 9.04 because my wireless stopped working when I upgraded...  my question is this: although wireless works in BOTH Windows and Ubuntu 8.10, it is rock solid in Vista and spotty in U... sometimes doesn't connect at all, sometimes fine. WHY would the same card that is recognized and does work in both work BETTER in Vista?
[05:28] <akore> so how do I make my desktop, document, pics, and all of that link to say drive C instead of the default linux partition
[05:29] <sebsebseb> akore: loads of great opensource/freesoftware out there,  once you got Ubuntu installed  give  Synaptic Package Manager a good browse   (  system > administaration >  synaptic package manager )  also  to give you a feel of this kind of software check out http://www.osalt.com and http://www.linuxeq.com even though you can run most of these programs on Windows as well
[05:29] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  akore
[05:29] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: yes, it might also be the disk(1) variable, im not too hot on the boot.ini config, im just checking
[05:29] <scunizi> akore: /home is where your personal data lives in linux.. the file system is ext3 typically and better then ntfs.. so continuing to store stuff on the other partition might be "dangerous".. as in you might loose it at some point.
[05:30] <akore> its a different disk
[05:30] <scunizi> akore: move your stuff to the linux partition..
[05:30] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: actually, first try changing the disk(0) variable to disk(1) on both lines...
[05:30] <RheaChiQ> thenk you so much cabrey sebsebseb scunizi C-S-B__ ubottu  :) im going to reboot now and try wireless cabrey :)
[05:30] <akore> cant, need windows for itunes
[05:30] <akore> for loading the ipod
[05:30] <sebsebseb> akore  scunizi   Ext4 by default for clean installs  in Ubuntu 9.10 released at the end of October
[05:30] <Curly_Q> Brodymcd, are you using a wireless in your home or work place with a legit Point of Access?
[05:30] <mbse> hi all
[05:31] <scunizi> akore: no windows.. no need for ntfs.. backup data stored there and reformat to ext3 and put the data back :)
[05:31] <sebsebseb> akore  scunizi  and people need to clean install for full support
[05:31] <brodymcd> Curly_Q: yes
[05:31] <mbse> have a problem with building an app using flock.c.
[05:31] <brodymcd> Curly_Q: my home
[05:31] <mbse> any idea what package this is a part of?
[05:31] <scunizi> sebsebseb: ext4 is the default file system in 9.10? I didn't realize that..
[05:31] <mbse> scunizi, it isnt
[05:31] <sebsebseb> scunizi: yep it is :)
[05:31] <Curly_Q> Perhaps your antenna is not adequate for the distance between your wireless and Access Point.
[05:31] <scunizi> ok.. which one is it.
[05:31] <akore> scunizi: I still need windows 7 for apps I got from school such as photoshop, premiere pro, etc
[05:32] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: you ok?
[05:32] <mbse> sebsebseb, i always have to select it and manually partition my drives
[05:32] <scunizi> akore: then you're dual booting...
[05:32] <mbse> otherwise it will default to ext3 when i auto partition
[05:32] <sebsebseb> mbse: I said 9.10 not 9.04
[05:32] <giaco> /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[05:32] <akore> scunizi: yes lol that may have been important to note
[05:32] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: yep, just getting it ready
[05:32] <mbse> sebastien, i know
[05:32] <mituss> akore for windows 7 use virtualbox
[05:32] <mbse> sebsebseb, i know
[05:32] <akore> mituss: the apps I use dont work when in virtualized environments like premiere pro
[05:32] <sebsebseb> scunizi  mbse   http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha2   and average end users, don't  get  that, it's the development version, so bugs
[05:32] <mbse> unloess there was an update i didnt know about
[05:33] <akore> I just plan on using ubuntu for daily shit
[05:33] <mituss> akore ou yes they do
[05:33] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: so you are changing disk(0) to disk(1) ignore rdisk(0) for the min
[05:33] <Curly_Q> Brodymcd, another factor is that your Ubuntu wireless setup is scanning on multiple channels which will give the results that you are describing.
[05:33] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: yes
[05:33] <akore> mituss: they dont work well, I have tried
[05:33] <brodymcd> Curly_Q: I dn't know what that means - scanning on multiple channels... can I get that stopped? Is this why 9.04 doesn't work for me?
[05:33] <mituss> i could make you a movie and post it on youtube
[05:34] <sebsebseb> mbse: I haven't  ran Karmic yet, but it says on that page that Ext4 will be default and so :)
[05:34] <mituss>  and show you that all cs3 adobe
[05:34] <brodymcd> Curly_Q: I would be willing to buy a different router if that would help.
[05:34] <mituss>  work under virtualized env
[05:34] <scunizi> sebsebseb: AH HA.. karmac is going to be ext4 by default. that's cool.. that would mean a full backup, clean install, restore to use it properly.
[05:34] <mbse> sebsebseb, ah ok
[05:34] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: brb
[05:34] <sebsebseb> scunizi: yes  exactly as I was saying basicalley
[05:34] <Crayboff> command to send terminal output to a txt file? even better, to a pastebin?
[05:34] <Curly_Q> It is possible Brodymcd. Not only that, it may be that the drivers you have for Ubuntu are not backwards compatible for the wireless device, etc.
[05:34] <scunizi> sebsebseb: got it.
[05:34] <mituss> and if i'm correct do you give me your house and car keys?
[05:35] <rww> Crayboff: install pastebinit, then  do commandgoeshere | pastebinit
[05:35] <Crayboff> thanks rww
[05:35] <Curly_Q> For example:   802.11   g etc.
[05:35] <jang_> 12121212221212121212121
[05:35] <rww> jang_: hello
[05:35] <brodymcd> Curly_Q: It is a Broadcom card... I bought a Dell because I (mistakenly) assumed since they load U, it would work well out of the box
[05:35] <Crayboff> rww, does that work with profilers?
[05:36] <scunizi> brodymcd: depends on what features you choose.. I've got a vostro 1400 and I made sure to upgrade to nvidia and changed the wireless card to one that was compatible.. research.. research.. research
[05:36] <sebsebseb> scunizi: a little off topic here, but Fedora 11 already uses it by default :)  and the   2.6.30 kernel  or  now  a slighty later one
[05:36] <rww> Crayboff: I don't know. Other possibilities would be commandnamehere > /path/to/output/file     or look in the program's man page for an option to redirect output
[05:37] <rww> karmic has 2.6.31 now
[05:37] <sebsebseb> rww: good
[05:37] <Curly_Q> Brodymcd it appears that the drivers with Windows is compatible with the device but there seems to be a compatibility problem with Ubuntu. If  you purchase a newer device or look on Google for a compatible device.
[05:37] <wizzo50> list
[05:37] <akore> mituss: in a native environment, my projects render much faster.
[05:37] <BeatlesFan> hi all
[05:37] <scunizi> sebsebseb: they've always been a little more cutting edge.. sometimes you pay for that :)
[05:37] <akore> mituss: I dont doubt you can get it to work, but it wouldnt be worth it
[05:37] <machinebacon> hi BeatlesFan -  good band
[05:37] <jang_> hihi rww
[05:37] <oldude67> how long does ebox usually take to install its like in hang mode now for about 5 minutes
[05:38] <akore> mituss: and I am familiar with virtualbox, so i tried it but wasnt satisfied
[05:38] <sebsebseb> scunizi: yeah I want to put it on as host OS,  but  i'll still help here when I do that
[05:38] <BeatlesFan> thx
[05:38] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: same as before, "Starting up..." then blinks to black screen, it's almost like it's going to boot, get the white bar at the bottom, but it never comes
[05:38] <scunizi> sebsebseb: why? as host?
[05:38] <sebsebseb> scunizi: then maybe 9.10 will become my host
[05:38] <Daemon_> could someone plz tell me were i can download some usplash .so files?
[05:38] <sebsebseb> scunizi: now we go pm :)
[05:38] <C-S-B__> C-S-B__: whats your boot.ini now?
[05:39] <machinebacon> Daemon_ I think on www.gnome-look.org - maybe
[05:39] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: same as before expect the disk numbers changed from 0 to 1 on both lines
[05:39] <scunizi> sebsebseb: I'm still on hardy on the laptop and intrepid on the desktop.. I like to watch what the problems are for new releases before installing or upgrading.. they are both production machines..
[05:39] <brodymcd> Curly_Q: I have done the legwork on the card before, way back at 8.04... and so it is supported somehow, but since a lot of this stuff is above my head, it gets tough. I'm thrilled there are 2 people helping me tonight - usually no one will help me with this. SO... I would PREFER to use 9.04 AND it claims Broadcom works - so how can I get the exact model of the wireless and then determine how to make things work?
[05:39] <Guest55117> PC2-6400 RAM is 800Mhz DDR2 right?
[05:40] <Guest55117> and not 667Mhz, right?
[05:40] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: how long did you wait?
[05:40] <oldude67> Daemon_, are you running kubuntu?
[05:40] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: a minute, maybe two
[05:40] <Ruby1> Hey where are firefox bookmarks stored?
[05:41] <sebsebseb> scunizi: ah ok
[05:41] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: in the hidden .mozilla folder in home
[05:41] <Ruby1> how do I view hidden folders?
[05:41] <Curly_Q> Brodymcd, just put it this way, if Ubuntu is a new concept with Linux, then, most likely the drivers with Ubuntu is cutting edge drivers. Which means that with Windows, there is privided backwards compatibility. Ubuntu on the other hand will deal with the latest technology which leaves the older hardware in the lurch so to speak.
[05:41] <Ruby1> Nautilus?
[05:41] <kbrosnan> Ruby1: ~/.mozilla/firefox/...
[05:41] <scunizi> sebsebseb: I like to play but not too hard. :)
[05:41] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: it should be noted, the hard drive light on my case ceases to blink/flash
[05:41] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: open home and ctrl  h.  or  view > show hidden files and folders
[05:41] <machinebacon> Ruby1 nautilus, press Ctrl-H
[05:41] <sebsebseb> Ruby1: found your USB stick then?
[05:41] <brodymcd> dual boot question: I am going to dual-boot my desktop with WinXP (to run carbonite backup and for my wife) and then occasionally boot into 9.04 for me... carbonite will only backup the MAIN drive, so how can I have all my data stored in win partition and then just small linux partition for me to run sometimes.
[05:42] <C-S-B__> tristanmike: this is solvable!
[05:42] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: I'm all in :D
[05:42] <Ruby1> Ah no
[05:42] <Ruby1> I realized
[05:42] <Daemon_> oldude67: looking there all the files are targz files how do i get the .so files needed for SUM?
[05:42] <Ruby1> I could upload the information from this computer onto the internet
[05:42] <Ruby1> and send the link to the other computer
[05:42] <Gran_Ger> Hi, I need to open the 5900 tcp port to use vnc with a WinXP running into Virtual Box
[05:42] <Ruby1> Not much info I need to be storing
[05:43] <lsanches> quit
[05:43] <Gran_Ger> How can I do that?
[05:43] <Ruby1> Anyway
[05:43] <Curly_Q> Brodymcd, there is one thing that I have questions about is that in the BIOS settings, does Ubuntu use PLUG AND PLAY or is that shut off. That could be a factor.
[05:43] <Ruby1> I went into home
[05:43] <Ruby1> pressed ctrl h
[05:44] <Ruby1> folders flashed, no mozilla
[05:44] <YuSsOuF> Gran_Ger what is status of firewall
[05:45] <Ruby1> Uh
[05:45] <tristanmike> C-S-B__: ok, is it possible that it's the way the mother handles sata ?
[05:45] <Ruby1> Little help
[05:46] <kbrosnan> Ruby1: .mozilla
[05:46] <tristanmike> C-S-B_*motherboard
[05:46] <Ruby1> Trying /media/disk/.mozilla
[05:46] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: im leaning towwards blackmagic at the moment
[05:46] <Ruby1> I'm trying to get to a disk from the live cd to copy it
[05:46] <Gran_Ger> YuSsOuF: http://paste.ubuntu.com/210919/
[05:46] <Ruby1> er
[05:46] <Ruby1> file
[05:46] <Ruby1> from the live cd
[05:46] <FloodBot2> Ruby1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <guest1010> hey...what's a 'search domain'?
[05:47] <akore> when I click "go to inbox" with gmail notifier it doesnt do anything
[05:47] <tristanmike> C-S-B_, heheh
[05:47] <brodymcd> Curly-Q: don't know about the plug-and-play... how would I check that?
[05:47] <Ruby1> gee
[05:47] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: you may as well stick those map lines back in...
[05:48] <C-S-B_> then try booting again.
[05:48] <Ruby1> would be nice to have a slight idea as to what to do
[05:48] <Curly_Q> Brodymcd, the only to find out is to go into the CMOS setup and turn either Plug and Play on or off and see if the drivers work.
[05:48] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:48] <Ruby1> I'm in the root folder/whatever
[05:48] <Ruby1> Its set in preferences, view hidden folders
[05:48] <Ruby1> i cant find .mozilla
[05:49] <brodymcd> Curly_Q:  I will try that - many thanks!
[05:49] <Crayboff> rww: it worked, thanks
[05:49] <Curly_Q> Plug and Play is a Windows thing.
[05:49] <tristanmike> C-S-B_, I did that first thing ;)
[05:49] <Crayboff> the pastebin worked for the profiler, i mean, rww
[05:49] <rww> Crayboff: awesome, glad I could help :)
[05:49] <Jimmio> Curly_Q: Yeah, Plug and Play doesn't exist in Linux... it just works.
[05:49] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi I am having trouble when i change my mac address on my wireless device. the mac shows as being changed on ifconfig but when i try to connect to my wireless ap that has no security on it the connection times out and keeps asking me for a password. I have restarted my wireless router, reset the config on the router and removed the security on the router. I have previously changed my mac on windows and was able to connect successfully to the router usin
[05:49] <jholderman> Can someone help me get multimonitor support to work in 8.10
[05:49] <Jimmio> Curly_Q: Or is that (tm) Apple? Meh.
[05:50] <Ruby1> PROGRESS
[05:50] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: you tried both grub configs after altering boot.ini?
[05:50] <Curly_Q> Jimmio Apple is simply a Windows thing too.
[05:50] <Jimmio> Curly_Q: Uhh... What? xP
[05:51] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: have you considered installing grub on your windows drive?
[05:51] <Curly_Q> The point is that most computers are designed for Windows. If you use Ubuntu or any Linux forum, then, you are bound to have all of these questions here because of the CMOS setup.
[05:53] <Curly_Q> Especially when dual booting.
[05:53] <jholderman> I get no signal on my second monitor and nothing shows up in the screen resolution
[05:53] <jholderman> Is there something like multimon for Linux?
[05:53] <roccity_> is there a way to build deps from source? I know that I can build apps from source.
[05:53] <tristanmike> C-S-B_, I guess I considered it, I sort of wanted to keep it completely separate, but whatever works
[05:54] <Ruby1> Ah
[05:54] <Ruby1> Uh
[05:54] <bullgard4> my Ubuntu 9.04 computer shows much less  startup messages (befor login) than another one. How can I fix that?
[05:54] <Ruby1> I'm in nautilus
[05:54] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi I am having trouble when i change my mac address on my wireless device. the mac shows as being changed on ifconfig but when i try to connect to my wireless ap that has no security on it the connection times out and keeps asking me for a password. I have restarted my wireless router, reset the config on the router and removed the security on the router. I have previously changed my mac on windows and was able to connect successfully to the router usin
[05:54] <Ruby1> And I'm trying to move a file
[05:54] <bullgard4> my Ubuntu 9.04 computer shows much less  startup messages (before login) than another one. How can I fix that?
[05:54] <Ruby1> it says I can't because i don't have permission
[05:54] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179902
[05:54] <dthacker> SmoKeyCastle: why are you changing your MAC address?
[05:54] <jholderman> when moving files I use terminal and sudo command if needed
[05:55] <Ruby1> halp
[05:55] <jholderman> sudo mv /usr/share/foo /usr/share/foo/bar
[05:55] <tristanmike> C-S-B_, wowzers
[05:55] <SmoKeyCastle> because the wifi connection at work requires a specific mac address that is associated with my work laptop
[05:55] <rww> bullgard4: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove "quiet" from the defoptions line, then run "sudo update-grub"
[05:55] <SmoKeyCastle> however my work laptop has been out of commission for the past two years
[05:56] <sage_> anyone have cedega
[05:56] <dthacker> SmoKeyCastle: so you have changed your wireless device MAC to match work, but now you cannot connect to your home AP, correct?
[05:56] <SmoKeyCastle> correct, i have not as yet tried connecting to the work ap either though
[05:56] <SmoKeyCastle> I am at home now
[05:57] <dthacker> well, let's stay home.  it's to soon to go to work
[05:57] <SmoKeyCastle> the mac changes in ifconfig but after a restart the mac reverts to the hardware mac
[05:57] <SmoKeyCastle> and with the new mac i cannot connect to the AP
[05:57] <dthacker> one problem at a time please
[05:57] <Ruby1> Alright
[05:58] <Ruby1> I'm trying to move a file from an old HDD
[05:58] <Ruby1> And I keep getting "cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it."
[05:58] <Curly_Q> http://www.tech-faq.com/change-mac-address.shtml
[05:58] <dthacker> SmoKeyCastle: ^^^^
[05:58] <dthacker> tnx Curly_Q
[05:58] <Ruby1> Would be nice if I was heard
[05:59] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: read that through, it should be doable, looks like you need the mapping
[05:59] <dthacker> Ruby1: I hear you but I'm working with another person.
[05:59] <whatever1> ....
[05:59] <SmoKeyCastle> i have been using the macchanger command in terminal
[05:59] <CleanLaundry> How do I change the view of all the folders I open?
[05:59] <SmoKeyCastle> it shows in ifconfig that the new mac has been implemented
[05:59] <scunizi> Ruby1: use sudo with the copy command
[06:00] <tristanmike> C-S-B_, yeah, I've read something that caught my eye
[06:00] <SmoKeyCastle> but wont let me connect to the wireless ap after the change has gone through, and a restart wipes out the change and puts the hardware mac back in place
[06:00] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: whats that?
[06:00] <tristanmike> C-S-B_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1624300&postcount=22
[06:01] <Curly_Q> How to change a MAC address in Linux Under Linux, you can change your MAC address with `ifconfig <interface> hw <class> <address>`, or you can use the GNU MAC Changer.
[06:01] <SmoKeyCastle> curly, i have been using the gnu macchanger
[06:01] <dthacker> SmoKeyCastle: can you connect with the original MAC address? (at home, before you change it)
[06:01] <SmoKeyCastle> i am connected with it now\
[06:02] <SmoKeyCastle> the ap is downstairs in a closet
[06:03] <zetheroo1> I installed Xubuntu onto my X31 which has 2GB of RAM and a 1.4GHZ Intel Pentium M CPU ... I am just wondering why writing documents in OpenOffice Writer or in Abiword is not a smooth ordeal ... pages don't load or scroll smoothly and text sometimes doe not appear for a few seconds after typing
[06:03] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle have you tried  ifconfig /flushdns   also  /flush dns cache   ?
[06:04] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: you could always give up having grub boot xp and just use your bios boot menu?
[06:04] <SmoKeyCastle> no i have not Curly_Q
[06:05] <Ruby1> Gah
[06:05] <Ruby1> this is annoying
[06:05] <sarthor> Hi, i updated my ubuntu, before the Linux version was 2.6.28-11 , and now its 2.6.28-13, but my yahoo messenger on kopete is not working now, How to make it work, i reinstalled kopete, but no success
[06:05] <Ruby1> I went into the permissions
[06:05] <Ruby1> and I set it all
[06:05] <FloodBot2> Ruby1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:05] <Ruby1> but it is still being all ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[06:05] <tristanmike> C-S-B_: well, according the post link I sent you, that's exactly what the person has achieved. They can boot into windows, but if somehow grub gets corrupt, they can just revert using the bios...so this is prime...the menu.lst looks identical with a couple of minor changes, I'm going to apply them and see what happens
[06:06] <SmoKeyCastle> any other suggestions Curly_Q before i go offline to try this out?
[06:06] <Gran_Ger> YuSsOuF? Did you see my pastebin?
[06:06] <akore> anyone here use mandvd?
[06:06] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: make sure not to change anything comp specific, like the location of windows...
[06:07] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: good luck
[06:07] <Ruby1> It keeps returning with permission denied
[06:07] <bullgard4> rww: The line starting with '# defoptions=' does not include a "quiet".
[06:07] <Ruby1> whenever I try to move it
[06:07] <mralexandro> is there some command to load the mmc reader? like do i have to locate it in fdisk first?
[06:07] <C-S-B_> Ruby1: you going to have to move with sudo on the command line
[06:07] <Ruby1> alright
[06:07] <Ruby1> how
[06:07] <C-S-B_> Ruby1:  sudo mv <orgin> <destination>
[06:07] <scunizi> Ruby1: what are you copying from (location and file name) and where are you copying to (location and file name) and are you doing this on the termial or with nautilus?
[06:08] <mralexandro> is there some command to load the mmc reader? like do i have to locate it in fdisk first?
[06:08] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, the only thing that I can think of in this case is that if wireless works on one boot but not on the other, there may be a compatitibility issue perhaps in the BIOS CMOS setup which works with Windows and must be set otherwise with Ubuntu and/or a driver or antenna issue.
[06:08] <C-S-B_> root nautilus is bad...
[06:08] <mralexandro> is there some command to load the mmc reader? like do i have to locate it in fdisk first?
[06:08] <mralexandro> ops sorry
[06:08] <mralexandro> i am in irssi
[06:08] <mralexandro> did not mean to repeat
[06:08] <mralexandro> the screen image lags in irssi
[06:08] <scunizi> mralexandro: souldn't
[06:08] <type0neg> my whole desktop just dissapeared...the only way I got in here was by typing Alt + F2 and running 'konversation'
[06:08] <scunizi> *shouldn't
[06:09] <type0neg> any idea how to 're-start' the desk top??
[06:09] <C-S-B_> type0neg: startx?
[06:09] <mralexandro> scunizi: well it does not auto detect here
[06:09] <mralexandro> maybe i do not have the correct drivers for it
[06:09] <scunizi> type0neg: in a terminal.. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:09] <Curly_Q> Also a permissions issue. But you say it works then it doesn't work. Which would lead one to think that it is a DHCP issue.
[06:09] <Ruby1> YES
[06:09] <Ruby1> Thanks
[06:09] <C-S-B_> type0neg: ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:09] <mralexandro> scunizi: i go back to xchat, this was unusual
[06:09] <scunizi> mralexandro: autodetect what?
[06:09] <type0neg> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:09] <C-S-B_> scunizi: isnt he kde?
[06:10] <type0neg> i'll try it....brb
[06:10] <mralexandro> scunizi: 5 sec change irc client
[06:10] <scunizi> C-S-B_: I don't know.. wasn't following everything.. just his last line
[06:10] <iMatter>  WTF my screen has a black hole ftp://crashpad.no-ip.org/Pictures/Screenshots the WTF ones, i even changed the background and the lower half is still disappear-o
[06:10] <sarthor> i removed kopete with apt-get purge kopete, and then i reinstalled, but the administrative password is still saved, how can i totally remove from the roots ?
[06:10] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, do you have a Dynamic or Static address?
[06:11] <C-S-B_> type0neg: what version of ubuntu? in 9.04 theyve disable ctrl-alt-backspace but that restarts x
[06:11] <mralexandro> scunizi, autodetect the mmc memory card. in my card reader. at my dell xps m1330 :)
[06:11] <type0neg> kubuntu....i got it
[06:11] <type0neg> alt + f2 then run plasma
[06:11] <type0neg> thanks guys
[06:11] <C-S-B_> type0neg: all working?
[06:11] <type0neg> yea - that did it
[06:12] <goshie> hiya folks
[06:12] <type0neg> network manager crashed and took everything
[06:12] <C-S-B_> type0neg: good, looks like you figured it out yourself. :P
[06:12] <alteregoa> high
[06:12] <type0neg> Daskreech got it for me in the other channel
[06:12] <C-S-B_> type0neg: ive heard kde network manage is a bit sucky
[06:12] <Adola> HOw do I unmount my ipod with terminal?
[06:12] <Adola> It's name is ADAM
[06:12] <type0neg> can't take the credit  :)
[06:12] <tristanmike> C-S-B_: nope :(  lol
[06:12] <scunizi> mralexandro: that's frustrating.. I've got a dell vostro 1400 with Hardy installed and suddenly it stopped recognizing card inserted into the built in slot.. I haven't found a solution.
[06:12] <alteregoa> the credentials in FSTAB, are they stored in the cache?
[06:12] <goshie> is there anyone who might be able to help with a silly issue involving installing WoW
[06:13] <alteregoa> smbcredentials
[06:13] <C-S-B_> Adola: use umount
[06:13] <C-S-B_> Adola: probably umount /media/ADAM
[06:13] <alteregoa> eve?
[06:13] <mralexandro> scunizi, ironaically enough i might know the reason, i doubt it since you havent found a solution. i think i remember that you have to unmount it properly in vista or xp or whateever windows system you have and then boot the linux and it should work. i do not know
[06:14] <ppaula> OI
[06:14] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: how about you just kill windows and use it as storage lol :)
[06:14] <scunizi> mralexandro: that might be true but it's never been on a win system.. only linux
[06:14] <alteregoa> tristania
[06:15] <mralexandro> scunizi, oh:/ well i will try and i will let you know:D
[06:15] <scunizi> mralexandro: k
[06:15] <tristanmike> C-S-B_: I haven't used Windows in years, the only reason I've installed it is because my 50+ year old father wants me to play Battlefield 2 with him.... LOL
[06:15] <mralexandro> scunizi, back in 10
[06:15] <alteregoa> where are the smbcredentials stored?
[06:15] <scunizi> tristanmike: hey.. I resemble that age
[06:15] <goshie> how would i allow permission to install a game on cd rom .. wine tells me i don't have permission?
[06:16] <tristanmike> scunizi: maybe you can play with him :P
[06:16] <scunizi> tristanmike: I like FPS games.. blowing things up and chasing others is fun
[06:16] <alteregoa> asteroids
[06:16] <scunizi> tristanmike: but thanks for the offer :)
[06:17] <Curly_Q> Scunizi, try shutting off the computer and pulling out the card and waiting about 1 minute. Then put the card back and see if the BIOS recognizes it again. The card may be not seated in the slot.
[06:17] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3438
[06:17] <tristanmike> C-S-B_: I suppose for now, I'm "giving up" but I'll find an answer dang nabbit
[06:17] <alteregoa> i like rpgs, getting rich by using the brain
[06:17] <C-S-B_> tristanmike:  wine kind of works
[06:17] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: never give up.
[06:17] <C-S-B_> :)
[06:17] <scunizi> Curly_Q: ah.. I've done everything.. it works when I use an external card reader. It's just the built in that's failing.. and I keep the "dummy plug" in it at all times to keep the dirt out too.
[06:17] <legend2440> pop a tape in the old eight track player and play Battlefield 2. sounds like fun
[06:18] <alteregoa> FPS are made for idiots, thats why so much peoples using that ( just like TV)
[06:18] <tristanmike> C-S-B_: "kinda works" doesn't really cut the mustard in fast paced, online, fps, I've already checked wine ;) believe me, I didn't want to install Windows, but can't say no to the old man, no offence scunizi ;P
[06:18] <goshie> is there anyone who can give me a hand with that issue?
[06:18] <scunizi> alteregoa: don't judge.. we could say the same about other but leave them to what they like..
[06:18] <scunizi> *others
[06:18] <Curly_Q> Scunizi, then it seems obvious that the external is compatible and the internal fails.
[06:18] <dhong> :), anyone knowns how to record sound from commandline
[06:18] <alteregoa> i don't judge, i just told the truth
[06:19] <scunizi> tristanmike: of course.. respect thy elders :)
[06:19] <xILegerityIx> does anyone here know how to change the color of text while renaming a file? When I try to rename a file it becomes white on white while typing
[06:19] <scunizi> Curly_Q: the internal use to be compatible.. it just stopped.
[06:19] <C-S-B_> xILegerityIx: it will be in your theme config
[06:20] <toter> !karmic
[06:20] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi ok i am back, i tried the flush dns commands given to me before and neither worked.
[06:20] <Curly_Q> Scunizi, the only thing I would recommend for your situation and most all of the comments here on this channel is to keep LOGS of any change you have made. Keep a good LOG BOOK and you will and can backtrack what and where the problem lies.
[06:20] <SmoKeyCastle> as in neither was the correct wording to actually be used
[06:21] <SmoKeyCastle> i tried ifconfig /flushdns
[06:21] <SmoKeyCastle> also /flush dns cache
[06:22] <scunizi> Curly_Q: I've been at this for 3 years and have figured what works and what doesn't for me.. unfortunately the occational install might screw something up.  but my suspicion is that an update changed something or the hardware just failed.
[06:22] <SmoKeyCastle> additionally dns comes into play after the connection with the AP is established, ie after i have recieved an ip address from the ap (which i have not gotten to that stage yet
[06:22] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, have you tried to run a straight through RJ45  cable directly to the internet rather than through your router?
[06:22] <SmoKeyCastle> curly_q, i am trying to change the mac address on my wifi, I am connected through the AP right now speaking to you.
[06:22] <alucardromero> Hello. :)
[06:23] <SmoKeyCastle> the problem is that when i change the mac address i can no longer connect
[06:23] <tristanmike> C-S-B_: well, thanks for your help, I'm going to try my luck with the ATI drivers now
[06:23] <antonius602> anyone here know how to set up the autostart apps in XFCE 4.6?
[06:23] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: youre just on painful suicide missions arent you?
[06:23] <antonius602> would be much appreciated....
[06:23] <alucardromero> Has anybody been able to get the SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio PCIe sound card to work in 9.04 under x64?
[06:23] <C-S-B_> tristanmike: ill see you in 5?
[06:23] <scunizi> SmoKeyCastle: I'm thinking that you need to release and renew your ip address.. if you're getting an address with dhcp..
[06:24] <tristanmike> C-S-B_: hopefully ??
[06:25] <SmoKeyCastle> The actual problem is not IP address related. The issue is that after changing my mac address in linux I suddenly become unable to establish a connection or session with my wireless access point.
[06:25] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, anytime you change the MAC Address, you are telling the router it is a counterfeit. It is possible that your Internet Provider won't allow another MAC address unless you inform them of the change. I have seen this happen. In fact, I had to tell the IP that I have so many MAC addresses and had to inform them of it. I am not sure if that is the case with you.
[06:25] <antonius602> alucardromero:  i helped a friend w/ this...to no avail....aparently the card is "supported"...but working is a different story
[06:25] <C-S-B_> SmoKeyCastle: the mac you are changing to, does it exit on the network?
[06:25] <SmoKeyCastle> The router is owned by me
[06:25] <SmoKeyCastle> I cannot even connect to the router and get an IP address
[06:25] <alucardromero> antonius602: Yeah, I've Googled everything I could, and I have found no success.
[06:25] <iMatter> Anyone free to help someone?
[06:25] <SmoKeyCastle> I bring the wifi device down using ifconfig, change the mac, then bring the device back up using ifconfig
[06:26] <antonius602> alucardromero: drivers DO exists...iirc
[06:26] <SmoKeyCastle> then try to connect, no luck
[06:26] <antonius602> exist
[06:26] <SmoKeyCastle> is there some logs somewhere that show me how far in the connection i was able to get?
[06:26] <scunizi> Curly_Q: SmoKeyCastle when you're behind a router the isp doesn't know how many machines are hooked up .. they can only ping the "internet modem".. unless the modem itself is also the router.. then all bets are off.
[06:26] <alucardromero> Hmm... I guess it's finding and compiling.
[06:26] <C-S-B_> SmoKeyCastle: dmesg | tail?
[06:26] <SmoKeyCastle> i want to connect to the wireless router after i have changed my mac
[06:26] <SmoKeyCastle> currently i cannot connect to the router.
[06:26] <SmoKeyCastle> the router is owned by me
[06:27] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, have you unplugged your router before changing the MAC Address? In other words, Rebooting the computer and first shutting down and litteraly unplugging the router voltage cable?
[06:27] <antonius602> alucardromero:  pretty sure...the creative website???  maybe...can't recall mate
[06:27] <konnerz> Q
[06:27] <alucardromero> Hmm... I'll check it out.
[06:27] <konnerz>           
[06:27] <konnerz>  
[06:27] <konnerz>         
[06:27] <FloodBot2> konnerz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:27] <SmoKeyCastle> you asked me to do that before, i spent 15 mins afterwards re inputting the config
[06:28] <konnerz> :q
[06:28] <Curly_Q> Even if you are behind a firewall or router, the MAC address is broadcasted.
[06:29] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: is there a device that shares the mac of the one you are changing your card to?
[06:29] <skyl> so, when changing /etc/network/interfaces to have a static IP what are the network and broadcast directives?
[06:29] <SmoKeyCastle> Curly_Q: I cannot even connect to the router with the new mac address. I have connected to the router previously using windows with the new mac address and that worked fine.
[06:30] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, here is another solution. If you want to change your MAC address, why not just install another NIC CARD.
[06:30] <skyl> network 192.168.1.0  ... broadcast 192.168.1.255, I think I'm okay with address, gateway and netmask
[06:30] <SmoKeyCastle> Because i need a specific mac address to connect to the ap at work
[06:30] <skyl> should different machines have different Bcast from ifconfig?
[06:30] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: is there a device that shares the mac of the one you are changing your card to?
[06:31] <SmoKeyCastle> my work computer that is currently pretending to be a dead toaster
[06:31] <SmoKeyCastle> work laptop rather
[06:31] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: is that machine turned off?
[06:31] <p037> ar
[06:31] <SmoKeyCastle> that machine is turned off
[06:31] <scunizi> SmoKeyCastle: have you tried to change the mac then bring the nick card down (turn off) then back up again? that should make the machine request a new ip from the router with the new mac address I would think.
[06:31] <c_nick> how to copy from one folder to another in the terminal (ubuntu 8.04)
[06:32] <SmoKeyCastle> i have brought the wlan0 down then changed the mac then brought it back up
[06:32] <scunizi> c_nick: cp /folder/location/from/file /folder/location/to
[06:32] <SmoKeyCastle> after bringing it back up i cannot connect. if i bring it down again atd change the mac to the wifi's default mac then bring it back up again i am able to connect
[06:32] <c_nick> thanks
[06:33] <scunizi> SmoKeyCastle: ah..a perplexing problem..
[06:33] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle, if you change your MAC address, have you tried ifup eth0 or eth1 etc?
[06:33] <SmoKeyCastle> no?
[06:34] <SmoKeyCastle> what does that do?
[06:34] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: what if you try a mac that is not your work laptops, can you connect then?
[06:34] <Curly_Q> It tells the system to see your MAC address and your NIC card.
[06:34] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: as in a completely made up mac
[06:34] <SmoKeyCastle> thats a good question C-S-B!
[06:34] <SmoKeyCastle> brb will try that
[06:35] <konnerz> hi
[06:38] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: well?
[06:38] <Adman65> Anyone have problems installing 9.04 in Virtualbox? Im stuck on 'scanning mirror'
[06:38] <SmoKeyCastle> no luck
[06:39] <mralexandro> i want to increase fan speed on my xps m1330 laptop. any sugestion/ideas/guide/software?
[06:39] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: looks like its a problem with the state your card is in after changing the mac...
[06:39] <SmoKeyCastle> how do i fix/check that?
[06:39] <Curly_Q> SmokeyCastle try this:   after you change your MAC address     ping localhost
[06:40] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: what chipset?
[06:40] <C-S-B> b43?
[06:40] <SmoKeyCastle> how do i check that C-S-B
[06:41] <Curly_Q> Also try:       ping 127.0.0.1
[06:41] <SmoKeyCastle> Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] shown in system testing
[06:41] <SmoKeyCastle> loopback ip address?
[06:41] <C-S-B> is it a pci or usb adapter? lspci -vv will show
[06:41] <SmoKeyCastle> ok do i have to declare that i am trying to ping out of the wlan0?
[06:42] <SmoKeyCastle> inbuilt
[06:42] <Curly_Q> Try it just as it is:   127.0.0.1
[06:43] <SmoKeyCastle> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
[06:43] <SmoKeyCastle> the lspci -vv showed it
[06:44] <Curly_Q> OK!  It seems that your MAC change works. However, either the router or switch or whatever you have doesn't like it if you can ping 127.0.0.1
[06:44] <SmoKeyCastle> so change the mac, bring the device back up, try to connect to the AP (which will fail) then try the loopback ip address?
[06:45] <SmoKeyCastle> ok give me a second to test the ping
[06:45] <Curly_Q> That is a tough call Smokey. I am trying to figure this one out with you.
[06:47] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: i dont know if it resets the mac, but you could try sudo service networking restart as well
[06:47] <Curly_Q> Smokey another thing to remember is that if you have dual booting and if you are running two operating systems at the same time such as with VMWARE, both OS's will demand a new IP config which will not be compatible. I hope you understand that.
[06:48] <shortliner> I am having trouble getting the tvout to work on my nvidia geforce2 mx440, I have the driver installed. I think it has something to do with the xorg.conf file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/210936/
[06:49] <exia_> hey anyone setupped flashfxp for linux from this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=351841 ?
[06:49] <SmoKeyCastle1> rpt@home:~$ ping 127.0.0.1 -I wlan0
[06:49] <SmoKeyCastle1> PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) from 127.0.0.1 wlan0: 56(84) bytes of data.
[06:49] <SmoKeyCastle1> From 192.168.1.12 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable
[06:50] <SmoKeyCastle1> loopback does not work after the mac change
[06:50] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle1: not pinging localhost is bad.:(
[06:50] <Curly_Q> Smokey, It is obvious that if you see anything with a 192.168.anything, it means that you are assigned a Dynamic IP address.
[06:50] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle1: have you tried restarting networking?
[06:51] <SmoKeyCastle1> Curly_q that stats were from when i was connected with the wireless using my normal mac
[06:51] <Curly_Q> I see.
[06:51] <Curly_Q> What are the stats when you change the MAC address?
[06:51] <C-S-B> Curly_Q: dns will cache the ones from when it last connected, just wont ping
[06:51] <SmoKeyCastle1> from lspci -vv
[06:51] <SmoKeyCastle1> ?
[06:52] <exia_> can you say me please what dependency should i install ? i get this "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libartsc0 (>= 1.5.0-1)
[06:52] <exia_> " while trying to install flashfxp
[06:52] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle1: try restarting networking post mac chang
[06:52] <C-S-B> *change
[06:52] <Curly_Q> Flush the cache and try again.
[06:52] <SmoKeyCastle1> C-S-B: how do i restart networking?
[06:52] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle1: sudo service networking restart
[06:53] <SmoKeyCastle1> ok
[06:53] <SmoKeyCastle1> will try that
[06:53] <Curly_Q> Hello there C-S-B nice to meet you. You seem like a knowledgeable person.
[06:54] <C-S-B> hi Curly_Q
[06:54] <C-S-B> Curly_Q: im not too bad...
[06:54] <Curly_Q> Hey there C-S-B.
[06:54] <CIIX> Is there a way to fiix this unstoppable volume wheel on the toshibas (and others)... you know the damn bug that if you touch the volume, It's just gonna keep increase...
[06:54] <Curly_Q> Good to meet you.
[06:54] <Curly_Q> What do you do for a living?
[06:54] <exia_> can you say me please what dependency should i install ? i get this "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libartsc0 (>= 1.5.0-1)
[06:54] <JoeM> I've got a new SSD for my new computer, is there anything special I should do for optimization before I move data over?
[06:54] <exia_> " while trying to install flashfxp
[06:55] <JoeM> same question for the RIAD 0 I'll use for /home
[06:55] <Curly_Q> I teach CISCO classes and A+ classes at a Network Technology Academy.
[06:56] <Curly_Q> I also teach Electrical and Electronics Engineering.
[06:56] <lbsjack> who knows GNOME applets program?
[06:56] <lbsjack> I'd like to add applet to menu.
[06:56] <lbsjack> but I cannot find the applet program file.
[06:57] <C-S-B> Curly_Q: at the moment im travelling and have temp settled in Oz, i am kind of in limbo after doing an on off job fixing consumer pcs. Professionally i am a sys admin, primarily ive down windows, but my last job in england was linux centric. I managed a few linux servers and virual solutions etc...
[06:58] <C-S-B> *down=done
[06:58] <Curly_Q> Sounds good C-S-B. It is always nice to keep active in computers and networking.
[06:58] <akore1> anyone here use mandvd?
[06:58] <joebodo_> lsbjack what applet ?
[06:59] <Curly_Q> Lately I have been working with Forensic Data Recovery.
[06:59] <C-S-B> Curly_Q: sounds like your quite knowledgeable yourself, i love spreading my knowledge so would love to get into teaching it somewhere
[06:59] <kfogel> Anyone know why my jaunty dell xps m1330 suddenly has disabled wireless?  In Network Manager, it's greyed out, and I can only get wired connection.
[06:59] <C-S-B> Curly_Q: i know networking pretty well..
[06:59] <joebodo_> !ot C-S-B
[06:59] <joebodo_> !ot | C-S-B
[06:59] <C-S-B> sorry!
[06:59] <CIIX> Hi everybody, I would like to know if anyone has/had the same bug as I have right now : When I touch my volume wheel, it never stops increasing, or decreasing.... it's the most annoying bug the THA WORLD !
[06:59] <akore1> !mandvd
[07:00] <akore1> ah finally its doing something
[07:00] <hateball> CIIX: I have that on a laptop too. I just bind it to some other keys and that's that...
[07:01] <m2rk0> hi! how can I remove shokwave flash player?
[07:01] <SmoKeyCastle> ok
[07:01] <SmoKeyCastle> that did not work
[07:01] <Curly_Q> C-S-B, I went looking for work about 4 years ago. I stumbled upon the Academy that I have been with since. I have recieved a $50,00.00 scholarship for free. I have been with the Academy for all of this time. I have met may great Computer Scientists.
[07:02] <ganjanaut> nice
[07:02] <SmoKeyCastle> C-S-B: Can i send you a private message with the data that i collected from that attempt, it is a bit big to spam the channel with
[07:02] <CIIX> hateball, so that's it... I just have to try not to see it?
[07:02] <C-S-B> SmoKeyCastle: my pm is all yours...
[07:02] <tristanmike> C-S-B: ...I hate ATI :(
[07:02] <C-S-B> tristanmike: lol!
[07:03] <hateball> CIIX: No, the proper solution would be to bugreport it :)
[07:03] <hateball> !bugs | CIIX
[07:03] <tristanmike> C-S-B: I have a HD360 and my GeForce FX5200 does circles around this card
[07:03] <CIIX> ubottu, thank you... I hope it's gonna get fixed real soon !
[07:03] <CIIX> oh
[07:03] <tristanmike> C-S-B: well, at least the driver support, lol
[07:06] <rsa_md5> what is the differenve between flash-nonfree and adobe-flashplugin packages
[07:06] <rsa_md5> do I need to uninstall one to keep the other?
[07:07] <Curly_Q> CIIX check this web site out:     https://bugs.launchpad.net/fedora/+source/linux/+bug/271706
[07:08] <iceroot> rsa_md5: flash-nonfree = flash 9 the other is flash 10
[07:08] <iceroot> rsa_md5: use adobe-flashplugin
[07:08] <rsa_md5> iceroot, ah thanks :)
[07:08] <iceroot> rsa_md5: np
[07:09] <jigpe> pldt weroam anyone?
[07:09] <jigpe> i followed this blog but i guess its a scam..it wont work http://xdefender.blog.com/2009/06/19/pldt-weroam-config-on-ubuntu-desktop-904/
[07:09] <Curly_Q> Iceroot, if you are running a server, that should not matter. Only if you are using a client should that matter.
[07:10] <iceroot> Curly_Q: what?
[07:11] <Curly_Q> In other words, running a server will allow any forum or platform to be served. Using plugins and other stuff to monitor what is being served was the question.
[07:12] <iceroot> Curly_Q: i dont get, why you tell this to me
[07:12] <hehe> üdv
[07:12] <toter> !jaunty
[07:13] <Curly_Q> Iceroot, I was just making conversation.
[07:13] <sikpits87> hi
[07:13] <vise> Hi.. I created a 15 gig partition with ext for excess storage. But I cannot write to it (requires sudo) as the owner is root. How can I own it?
[07:14] <Curly_Q> Vise, you cannot own anything unless you are root.
[07:14] <Giraffe_> vise: chown/chmod?
[07:15] <rsa_md5> iceroot, I removed flashplugin-nonfree and installed adobe-flashplugin . Now it doesn't show up in about:plugins in firefox
[07:15] <vise> Curly_Q, Giraffe_, I tried sudo chown vise ./more_ext   where more_ext is the mount folder. It still says operation not permitted...
[07:15] <Black_Phantom> Whats the difference between 9.04 DVD and CD, exactly ?
[07:15] <Black_Phantom> more pre-installed packages ?
[07:15] <Giraffe_> vise: hmm
[07:15] <Curly_Q> Vise, you don't have permissions.
[07:15] <rww> Black_Phantom: more packages on the DVD (not pre-installed), and more language translations
[07:16] <Black_Phantom> oh ok, thanks
[07:16] <vise> Curly_Q, Giraffe_, Well, how do i use it then without bothering sudo.. I created it!!
[07:16] <Giraffe_> vise: what are the permissions for ./more_ext?
[07:16] <Giraffe_> -rwx------?
[07:17] <Black_Phantom> I can only see dvds, in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/release/ why ?
[07:17] <rww> Black_Phantom: see the first paragraph of that page :)
[07:18] <Black_Phantom> oh ok :p, thanks again rww
[07:18] <vise> Giraffe_, drwxr-xr-x  3 root  root       8192 2009-07-06 11:44 more_ext
[07:19] <vise> Giraffe_, I can't even set the owner for sub-folders.
[07:19] <testtestasss> when using lspci -v, i can't seem to find my wifi device...any ideas?
[07:19] <Giraffe_> hmm
[07:19] <Giraffe_> honestly, I don't know
[07:19] <vise> Wow.. I thought this is a simple one..
[07:19] <Giraffe_> you did sudo chown and it said permission denied?
[07:19] <rww> testtestasss: try lsusb. Mine shows up there.
[07:19] <mneptok> vise: what is more_ext?
[07:20] <vise> mneptok, mount folder
[07:20] <Black_Phantom> How can a normal user, benefit from Ubuntu Server Edition ?
[07:20] <mneptok> vise: for ... ?
[07:20] <testtestasss> rww, nothing about wifi
[07:20] <vise> an ext partition of 15 GB i just created from an empty FAT one for more storage
[07:20] <vise> mneptok, an ext partition of 15 GB i just created from an empty FAT one for more storage
[07:20] <mneptok> vise: any reason not to put it in /media ?
[07:20] <vise> Giraffe_, yes... chown returns "operation not permitted"
[07:21] <vise> mneptok, If that will make a difference, i am going to try it now...
[07:21] <rww> Black_Phantom: generally, they wouldn't. Ubuntu Server doesn't have a GUI, for example, so it's not really end user-oriented
[07:21] <mneptok> vise: sudo rm -r /more_ext && sudo mkdir /media/more_ext && sudo chown -R vise:vise /media/more_ext
[07:22] <Curly_Q> Vise, you need to understand that even if you create a directory or anything for that matter. You may have been given permission to create it but you have not been given permission to delete it or control it. Only Root can dictate what you can do with a newly created anything.
[07:22] <Black_Phantom> I see
[07:22] <rww> vise: can you copy the output of "mount" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, then link it here, please?
[07:22] <testtestasss> any help?
[07:22] <vise> rww, I am going to try the suggestions first. brb
[07:23] <mneptok> testtestasss: try lsusb
[07:23] <testtestasss> already did
[07:23] <testtestasss> nothing about wifi anywhere
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> testtestasss: sudo lshw -C network
[07:25] <tristanmike> C-S-B: hey, thanks again for all the help this evening, it's very appreciated. I'll be searching for the answer and I'll fire you off an email if/when I find a solution. Peace :D
[07:25] <Curly_Q> It was nice meeting you good folks. I hope to see you again soon. Take care.
[07:25] <C-S-B> seeya!
[07:25] <Curly_Q> Nice talking with you C-S-B.
[07:25] <testtestasss> http://pastebin.com/m4bc3a6b8 can anyone get anything out of that?
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> testtestasss: yes, you only have a wired etwork device
[07:26] <[thirdwheel]> hey all, trying to bridge a wired and wireless connection - I've got the bridge in place, but for some retarded reason I can't ping from one side of the bridge to another
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> !ics
[07:27] <testtestasss> ActionParsnip: im on a laptop with builtin wifi
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> testtestasss: then you have the killswitch off or its not enabled in bios
[07:27] <rww> testtestasss: my friend's wifi chip disappeared once. turns out he disabled it in his laptop's BIOS =/
[07:27] <[thirdwheel]> who is that pointed at ActionParsnip ?
[07:27] <ARMENIAN> when is ubuntu repos releasing firefox 3.5?
[07:27] <rww> took me half an hour to figure that one out. i hit him upside the head afterwards.
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> testtestasss: even if you dont have a driver setup, lshw will see it
[07:27] <rww> ARMENIAN: soon. it's in testing right now, so it shouldn't be too long.
[07:28] <testtestasss> well, i have a wifi power button, but...when i push it, nothing happens
[07:28] <testtestasss> stays orange
[07:28] <testtestasss> when it should be blue
[07:28] <vise> mneptok, It does the same thing. I mounted /dev/sda6 in /media/more_ext and still, the ownership change is not permitted.
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> testtestasss: you need to get that sorted first then, hit the bios to have the wifi turned on at boot
[07:28] <gbear142751> is there a howto someone might be able to point me to for getting updates to clamav within ubuntu 9.04?  I am able to see there are updates available... just no way to get them :(
[07:28] <ARMENIAN> rww: lol ok good cause I asked like 4 days ago and i was told 3-4 days :P
[07:28] <vise> mneptok, I use sudo for mounting.. sudo mount /dev/sda6 /media/more_ext
[07:29] <testtestasss> ActionParsnip, bios don't have no option for wifi, done looked
[07:29] <gbear142751> it would be really really nice if clam updated itself :)... but for now just making sure I have this installed correctly would be nice
[07:29] <lobf> hey guys
[07:29] <lobf> i'm having an issue with my ipod
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> testtestasss: have you found any guides for you laptop make / model
[07:29] <mneptok> vise: sudo chown -R vise:vise /media/more_ext
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !ipod  > lobf
[07:30] <lobf> I was having some troubles with it that ended up with me having to transfer my entire 26 gig collection back onto it. midway through the machine froze, i had to restart, and now it doesn't recognize my ipod
[07:30] <lobf> it says "unable to mount location"
[07:30] <Lartza_> How could I move over 4GB file away from my ubuntu?
[07:30] <vise> mneptok, Nope.. Still gives operation not permitted.
[07:30] <Lartza_> cp -r to usb, too big file(over 4GB)
[07:30] <mneptok> vise: what format is this partition?
[07:31] <Lartza_> ftp, on other side fireftp says it's too big
[07:31] <Lartza_> If I change ftp client will my ftp server send the file still?
[07:31] <rww> Lartza_: what filesystem is the other side using? FAT32, NTFS, etc?
[07:31] <vise> mneptok, I don't remember. I just use mkfs on /dev/sda6.. whatever is the default format that way..
[07:31] <Lartza_> rww: NTFS
[07:32] <Lartza_> but i think it's only the ftp client's problem I am using
[07:32] <Lartza_> OH, but my usb had fat32
[07:32] <xerox1> hi, i have been looking for a new notebook; because of certification  i looked at dell (for a m1330 or something similar) - could not find it on the website: did they quit the collaboration with ubuntu?
[07:32] <rww> Lartza_: yeah, FAT32 can't do files bigger than 4GB, so that explains that
[07:32] <Lartza_> well with ftp, will the server send over 4gb?
[07:32] <Lartza_> ext3 to ntfs
[07:32] <lobf> anybody know anything about my issue?
[07:32] <rww> Lartza_: I've done it in the past with Filezilla, I think.
[07:33] <plantain_chip> So....
[07:33] <Lartza_> Alright, juts to make sure since i moved 4gb with usb1.1 which was slowww... dont wantt  o start again with ftp and get stuck on 4gb too
[07:33] <OttifantSir> Does anyone have an idea why my audio desyncs with the video when recording with gtk-recordmydesktop?
[07:34] <plantain_chip> No clue, it's always worked for me
[07:34] <mneptok> xerox1: http://dell.com/ubuntu
[07:34] <plantain_chip> Even with my old computer
[07:34] <plantain_chip> So, would I be frowned upon here if I said that Arch was the best Linux distro?
[07:34] <Gorlist> may have made a slightly mistake. for my ubuntu 8.04 box I installed everything as root user before disabling the account
[07:34] <mneptok> plantain_chip: yes. so stop.
[07:35] <Gorlist> how does this mean all the bits setup (crons etc) will no longer function as root doesn't exsist
[07:35] <plantain_chip> Okay, I was joking
[07:35] <xerox1> mneptok, thx, exactly what i was looking for
[07:36] <OttifantSir> @Lartza: If it is your own network, you'll probably have a speed of 100mbps, whereas USB 1.1 is 12mbps.
[07:37] <X11> How do I register a username and password for this server?
[07:37] <rww> !register | X11
[07:37] <OttifantSir> @Lartza: If it is to a server/computer online/The Net, you're limited to the upload speed of your line.
[07:37] <testtestasss> how could? i run a hp bios flasher program using wine successfully
[07:38] <redsoxking> does anyone know how to run windows 7 from VirtualBox inside an external hard drive?
[07:38] <vise> mneptok, rww, Giraffe_, Done! The format was vfat. I don't still understand why it didn't allow me to change the permission. I know perms don't exist with vfat. But then it should atleast not make it root if it can't be changed. Anyway.. I formatted it to ext3 and then did a sudo chown.. Its working fine now.. Thank you!
[07:39] <rww> sweet, i guessed right
[07:39] <WIGGMPk> testtestasss: I recommend stripping down a copy of windows and putting it on a USB stick and booting into windows that way
[07:39] <Severity2> redsoxking, i think you should declare the external drive in fstab
[07:39] <testtestasss> sigh lol :(
[07:39] <testtestasss> saw that coming lol
[07:40] <WIGGMPk> complain to the manufacture of the motherboard...
[07:40] <vise> redsoxking, I think that involves accessing the hd directly. I don't know if virtual box can allow accessing hds like /dev/sda1 etc directly...
[07:40] <testtestasss> yea, i know the story :P
[07:40] <redsoxking> Severity2, whaqt is fstab? is it inside of virtual box or a seperate app?
[07:40] <OttifantSir> @redsoxking: It shouldn't be harder than to choose Windows 7 as OS in Machine, then set the virtual harddrive-location to the external harddrive, and make sure it is mounted every time you want to run Windows 7. However, it will be slower than running it from an internal virtual harddrive.
[07:40] <alteregoa> i was asking for credentials in the fstab
[07:41] <WIGGMPk> testtestasss: no seriously.. complain.. they wont help you when you complain.. but complain.. it has to start somewhere..
[07:41] <Severity2> redsoxking, it is the file in your box that list down all filesystems automounted on startup
[07:41] <alteregoa> where are they stored? or cached?
[07:41] <Severity2> you declare there the mountpoint the permission etc
[07:41] <alteregoa> the cifs permissions
[07:42] <Severity2> redsoxking,
[07:42] <Severity2> heres what i understand
[07:42] <gbear142751> is it possible to dual boot between a xen hypervisor and regular ubuntu install?
[07:42] <OttifantSir> Does anyone have an idea why my audio desyncs with the video when recording with gtk-recordmydesktop?
[07:42] <Severity2> virtualboc is installed on your machine right?
[07:42] <redsoxking> OttifantSir, my problem is that im on an old laptop with a 60gb hdd with a dual boot of xp and ubuntu 9.04, and my grub bootloader is whipped out when i do a normal install
[07:42] <alteregoa> white sox, jackson capable
[07:42] <Severity2> but you want the .vdi(virtual hardisk to be saved on your usb?)
[07:43] <Severity2> i mean on your external
[07:43] <Severity2> i think vbox can handle your situation as is
[07:43] <vise> redsoxking, Where does your w7 come in picture then
[07:43] <redsoxking> vise, just to see
[07:43] <Severity2> just make sure that your machine can detect the external hard disk
[07:44] <xFlux> Hello - I have Ubuntu Server 9.04 installed on a HPDL360-G6.  Multiple servers run fine, and some have random lock ups that are unexplained in the logs.  They seem to lock up, not allowing me to reboot, or issue any local commands.  #shutdown -r now, I can see was initiated, but it hangs on multiple KxxProcess scripts
[07:44] <redsoxking> Severity2, so I can install VirtualBox to my external hdd via the synaptic?
[07:44] <xFlux> I keep guessing something is wrong with the raid drivers in Ubuntu, but wanted to check if anyone had suggestions?
[07:44] <Severity2> redsoxking, when you make a virtual hardisk(where the virtual os will be installed) you will have the option on where you will save it
[07:44] <Severity2> wt?
[07:45] <Severity2> you want to install vbox on synaptic? or you already have vbox on your machine
[07:46] <redsoxking> Severity2, I have VB on my internal and I want the virtualmachine to run on my external, sorry I have only had ubuntu for 3 weeks still a noob
[07:46] <Geoffrey2> is there somewhere I can find FF 3.5 debs for Ubuntu?
[07:46] <Severity2> redsoxking, no problem i understand :)
[07:46] <OttifantSir> @redsoxking: I don't see the problem: Install Virtualbox from virtualbox.org, create a Wndows 7 machine, make a .vdi (Virtual Disk Image) on your external harddrive, make sure it is mounted before starting the machine. Should work fine.
[07:46] <Severity2> i think you can do that
[07:46] <Kazriko> !ff35
[07:46] <Severity2> wait let me simulate your situation on my vbox
[07:47] <neo> so quiet
[07:47] <Geoffrey2> Kazriko, thanks
[07:48] <skyl> I have a dsl connection, a belkin router and a server here.  It was working but my old router went out and I can't for the life of me get my server listening to the outside world as it was.  I have reset everything.  If someone can help get my server running I can give accollades, money whatever, please help, I am in router hell.
[07:48] <OttifantSir> Does anyone have an idea why my audio desyncs with the video when recording with gtk-recordmydesktop?
[07:48] <Severity2> redsoxking, PM me
[07:48] <lobf> man, i hate to just add to the echoing questions, but...
[07:49] <skyl> motorola netopia --> belkin router --> server with static and dhcp with wireless .. is it possible to have some machines get dhcp address and some to get static, I thouhght that is how I had it before
[07:49] <lobf> I'd like to add a windows install to this computer
[07:49] <lobf> how do i select the drive letter?
[07:49] <lobf> am i going to write over any info on the ubuntu partition?
[07:49] <skyl> OttifantSir are you using JACK?
[07:49] <daurnimator_> how do you get a package into ubuntu reps??
[07:50] <vise> lobf, Do you have an excess partition on your disk for your windows? (> 5 GB)?
[07:50] <iMatter> ermac0, how would i go about updating firefox to 3.5 from the tar.bz from Mozzilla's Website
[07:50] <OttifantSir> @skyl: No. Tried installing it, and tweaking the settings trying to get it to work for two days, then gave up. My soundcard is HDA Intel, at least in Mixer control
[07:50] <vise> iMatter, That is complex.. Wait for repository of ubuntu...
[07:50] <iMatter> vise :S
[07:51] <Kazriko> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa << instead of a tar.gz, you can use the daily ppa, but it's the bleeding edge of the bleeding edge. the url in the !ff35 has other options.
[07:51] <vise> iMatter, or i will give u a link
[07:51] <iMatter> I'll go for the link..
[07:51] <skyl> OttifantSir I seemed to get get good sync but I would have to load Ardour and qjackctrl and then start gtk-RMD ... idk, it's tricky...
[07:52] <OttifantSir> @lobf: If you don't have Windows on the machine already, you can't add it after Ubuntu, other than as in a Virtual Machine. Windows wipes everything on the drive.
[07:52] <vise> iMatter, Version of ubuntu?
[07:52] <skyl> I'm about to cry; please help me forward my ports and set my IP addresses :'(
[07:52] <lobf> what about a partition?
[07:52] <pryda_> virtual sux
[07:52] <iMatter> vise,  ubuntu hardy heron
[07:52] <vise> OttifantSir, Not if you have a partition
[07:53] <BJ_sung> ss
[07:54] <OttifantSir> @lobf: True as vise says, but you will lose GRUB, and need to use a live CD to repair it later. Plenty of threads for that at ubuntuforums.org
[07:54] <C-S-B__> skyl: not wanting to hear you cry, what are you trying to do?
[07:54] <lobf> I need data that I have on this drive
[07:54] <lobf> but i need to access it in windows?
[07:54] <lobf> *-?
[07:55] <lobf> or, if you can tell me why ubuntu won't recognize my ipod we could skip all this
[07:55] <vise> lobf, OttifantSir, Yes grub is lost. But in case you don't want to do the live cd thing, you can get Grub4DOS and install it in windows. That will add grub. Then all you need to do is to add the entries for your linux in the menu.lst...
[07:55] <lobf> i wouldn't need windows to fix this shit if I could access it in ubuntu
[07:55] <lobf> i don't even know what grub is
[07:55] <skyl> C-S-B just get a webserver running behind modem and router (with wireless dhcp of other computers)
[07:55] <lobf> i have been using ubuntu for about a week
[07:55] <OttifantSir> @lobf: You need access to the data from a Windows OS? Is the Ubuntu partition ext3? Or FAT?
[07:55] <lobf> i think it's ext3
[07:56] <vise> lobf, Did you find out what device your ipod comes up as?
[07:56] <lobf> usb device
[07:56] <skyl> and then know how to put other ports to that server ... it's so sad b/c it was set-up and then that router died and I can't get it going now and I am back to square one
[07:56] <OttifantSir> @lobf: GRUB is a boot loader. If you have more than one OS, it's what lets you choose which one to use.
[07:56] <lobf> ah
[07:56] <lobf> and it's "USB Drive"
[07:56] <C-S-B__> skyl: well the modem/router config is off topic but you need to forward port 80 to your server ip (the setting on your modem will most likely be under nat)
[07:57] <vise> lobf, Immediately after plugging your ipod, type dmesg at console. In the last few lines, there should be the "/dev/whatever" device coming up and info about it. Find that out first...
[07:57] <lobf> in properties about everything is unknown
[07:57] <vegombrei> is there an effective way to convert flv to mpeg or avi?
[07:57] <Mash> i got ubuntu 9.04 and installed inside my windows how long it takes if i use 9gb of my partition for ubuntu ?
[07:57] <C-S-B__> skyl: your server, if it doesnt already, will need a static ip
[07:57] <vise> Mash, How long it takes to do what?
[07:58] <OttifantSir> @vegombrei: I personally like WinFF. Got a bunch of presets and takes most anything you throw at it.
[07:58] <J_Dahmer> hello
[07:58] <Mash> to finish the "creating a virtual disks" vise
[07:58] <lobf> vise: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[07:58] <vegombrei> OttifantSir: winff .. do i need wine for that?
[07:58] <skyl> C-S-B__ it has had one but I've basically run around in circles until I am back to default on everything
[07:58] <lobf> that's where it stays
[07:58] <vegombrei> OttifantSir: can i apt-get it?
[07:59] <andrew_46> vegombrei: winff has an ubuntu package
[07:59] <vise> Mash, Does not depend on the size. It will copy files that are needed... (i think 15 min?)
[07:59] <vegombrei> andrew_46: apt-gettable?
[07:59] <lobf> you copy, vise?
[07:59] <vise> lobf, Hmm... :O
[07:59] <Mash> uhmmm ok
[07:59] <vegombrei> :)
[07:59] <Mash> let see it that takes long im now on 10 minutes
[07:59] <andrew_46> vegombrei: http://code.google.com/p/winff/wiki/UbuntuInstallation
[08:00] <lobf> any tips, vise/
[08:00] <lobf> ?
[08:00] <lobf> or anyone?
[08:01] <yaboo> how does one get vimeo to work on ubuntu under firefox, also can I upgrade to firefox 3.5, running desktop 9.04
[08:01] <OttifantSir> @vegombrei: You can also get it from the menu Programs -> Add/Remove... -> Search for winff. Make sure you have "All Available Programs" checked. in the drop-down list to the left of the search bar.
[08:01] <vise> lobf, Uhm.. Are you sure there is no "/dev/sdb" or something like that displayed? Try plugging it in in some other usb port.. (say 1.0 instead of 2.0 or 2.0 instead of 1.0) and then check for dmesg again...
[08:02] <OttifantSir> @vegombrei: No need for Wine. It's just a GUI for FFMpeg.
[08:04] <RiverLaptop> Strange problem here.  My system goes through the log-in sessions stuff right but then it starts to a blank desktop.  I put an icon for a terminal on the desktop and when I click on it it opens a terminal but with no decorations and there are no Gnome panels running.  Issuing the gnome-panel and gnome-wm commands get things back to normal but what did I screw up to stop them from auto starting?
[08:04] <lobf> vise- nothing
[08:05] <vise> lobf, Hmm.. Then i have no idea..
[08:06] <cattellar> can I use mysql to run .sql databases?
[08:06] <andrew_46> OttifantSir: My apologies I did not realise winff had hit the repositories. Started in Jaunty by the look of it
[08:06] <cattellar> btw, mysql-server is broken on jaunty
[08:06] <vise> lobf, But i will try to search on the net for you..
[08:06] <lobf> thanks
[08:06] <maccam94> anyone else having trouble reaching the official ubuntu repositories/ppa's today?
[08:06] <lobf> I'm trying the same
[08:07] <halberd> I just accidentally reduced the font size of one of my terminals
[08:08] <halberd> I have customized my terminals so that they do not have a menu bar since I hardly use it
[08:08] <halberd> how do I change it back?
[08:08] <Mash> and it was a problem vise the cd is deffect and need a request one again
[08:08] <OttifantSir> @andrew_46: No need to apologize. Noone knows everything.
[08:09] <halberd> oh I got it
[08:10] <dragon_> !ff3.5
[08:11] <dragon_> ubottu: tell them to make it quick?
[08:11] <dragon_> i know, i know
[08:11] <halberd> why are you so eager dragon?
[08:12] <halberd> what do you want in ff3.5
[08:12] <dragon_> halberd: cuz ff3.5 is faster and not really a bloat like ff3
[08:13] <halberd> I haven't noticed a speed problem on ff3, other than my internet connection
[08:13] <DigitalFiz> dragon_, wasnt that what they said about ff2 to ff3?
[08:13] <bullgard4> ekiga -d 4: "PCSS Created PC sound system endpoint." What does PCSS stand for?
[08:13] <redsoxking> nothings perfect
[08:13] <halberd> have you googled it bullgard4 ?
[08:13] <DigitalFiz> im happy with ff3
[08:14] <dragon_> DigitalFiz: yeah, no doubt ff3 was better than ff2
[08:14] <dragon_> halberd: ff3.5 renders websites faster, if you noticed
[08:14] <redsoxking> dragon_, have u tried the add-on FasterFox???
[08:14] <bullgard4> halberd: Is that all you are able to add to solve the question put?
[08:14] <dragon_> redsoxking: not yet, checking it out
[08:15] <halberd> bullgard4, googling would answer your question, why should I tell you the answer?
[08:15] <DigitalFiz> it was a valid follow up to the question i think
[08:15] <bullgard4> yet another troll
[08:15] <halberd> lol
[08:16] <dragon_> redsoxking: i've used something similar in past, but that's about network. ff3.5 is about rendering.
[08:16] <redsoxking> I saw some improvement with speed, also add Ad Block Plus, take away all those ads speeds site boot time dragon_
[08:16] <DigitalFiz> now people are trolls for giving valid suggestions hmm
[08:16] <dragon_> redsoxking: got noscript already
[08:16] <DigitalFiz> and honestly the answer was in your question bullgard4
[08:17] <Crayboff> alright when ssh-ing, I'm running my bot on another server, which I ssh-ed to. However, how do i log out of the ssh session without closing the bot?
[08:18] <kdub> if you set a cron job every 5 minutes, and turn your computer off for 15, is that cron job skipped 3 times? or is it ran 3 times when you turn the computer back on?
[08:18] <dragon_> btw ff3.5 did way better than ff3 on the acid3 tests - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3
[08:18] <redsoxking> dragon_, how fast do u really need ur browser to be? I dont understand ur need for speed on this
[08:18] <dragon_> kdub: skipped
[08:18] <Necrogami> they are skipped
[08:19] <kdub> thats what would make more sense, thanks
[08:19] <dragon_> redsoxking: my ff3 used to get stuck when loading a large webapp, like facebook
[08:19] <dragon_> Crayboff: run the bot in background
[08:20] <Crayboff> dragon_: how
[08:20] <xFlux> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7568741#post7568741  <------ Really need some expert advice
[08:20] <dragon_> Crayboff: $ command &
[08:20] <Crayboff> ?
[08:20] <dragon_> Crayboff: append an "&" at the end of the command, and it will be sent to background
[08:20] <Crayboff> ah
[08:21] <Crayboff> will i get feed to the terminal?
[08:21] <maccam94> firefox 3.5 is now in jaunty-proposed btw
[08:21] <dragon_> Crayboff: as long as you're connected
[08:21] <Crayboff> the program prints debugging info and stuffs
[08:21] <Crayboff> ooh cool
[08:21] <maccam94> how do you update ubottu?
[08:21] <dragon_> Crayboff: you can also send the feed to a file, using >
[08:21] <redsoxking> dragon_, I was having the same problem with that site but there is an add-on for just facebook scripts too, check it out, now i understand
[08:22] <Severity1> redsoxking, yo
[08:22] <dragon_> Crayboff: command > /path/to/logfile &
[08:22] <redsoxking> Severity1, yo
[08:22] <Severity1> sorry about earlier the power grid went down again so i checked all the other stations here
[08:22] <Severity1> i already checked it btw
[08:22] <Crayboff> dragon_: ok, ummm setting it as a background thing doesn't help when i close the terminal
[08:22] <dragon_> Crayboff: the program quits?
[08:22] <Crayboff> yes
[08:23] <Crayboff> when i add & immediately after the program
[08:23] <Crayboff> so
[08:23] <Crayboff> python craybott.py&     is the command i used
[08:23] <kdub> Crayboff: <cmd> & disown
[08:23] <redsoxking> Severity1, so choosing were to put the vdi is wear it runs from
[08:23] <Severity1> redsoxking, yes thats it
[08:23] <Severity1> because .vdi is treated as the hardisk
[08:23] <dragon_> Crayboff: add a space between .py and &
[08:24] <Severity1> so it should be okay if its stored on the external
[08:24] <dragon_> Crayboff: i just verifed this method over ssh. it works
[08:24] <redsoxking> Severity1, thank you for your help
[08:24] <Severity1> as long as the external is properly detected by the computer
[08:24] <epalm> i don't quite understand apt-get it seems.  i have firefox 3.0.11, and i'd like 3.5.  "sudo apt-get install firefox" tells me "firefox is already the newest version"
[08:24] <Severity1> there shouldnt be any problems
[08:24] <kdub> Crayboff: putting disown after the ampersand "detaches" the process from the terminal, surviving the close
[08:24] <Severity1> glad to help redsoxking
[08:24] <lstarnes> !ff35 | epalm
[08:25] <epalm> ohhh kay, thanks
[08:25] <kdub> epalm: thats the newest official release in the release. you need to update your sources. see ubottu
[08:25] <kdub> err, in the repo :P
[08:25] <epalm> apt-get update, yes?
[08:26] <kdub> epalm: no, you need to the repository for the 3.5 release. its not in the standard repositories yet
[08:26] <epalm> i can wait, i didn't know it wasn't in the std repos yet
[08:26] <epalm> why is there an "apt-get upgrade", won't "apt-get install" upgrade packages?
[08:27] <lstarnes> epalm: apt-get upgrade upgrades all packages needing upgrades
[08:27] <kdub> upgrade does all upgrade-able
[08:27] <kdub> to echo lstarnes
[08:28] <Crayboff> kdub: well i want to be able to see all printing it uses as debugging in real time
[08:28] <Crayboff> it's not just debugging, it also uses messages like who joins a channel, when someone uses a certain command
[08:28] <Crayboff> etc
[08:29] <kdub> Crayboff: direct the output to a file, then detach it from the terminal. it will keep the log, and you can view it however you like
[08:30] <Crayboff> can i view it in the terminal in real time?
[08:31] <kdub> Crayboff: perhaps you need to look into the program "screen". it allows for "detaching" a terminal and "reattaching" later on
[08:31] <Crayboff> ooh cool
[08:32] <vise> Are their any configurable cache settings for the root ext3 file systems (like in proc or somewhere?)?
[08:32] <halberd> I wish i could configure my workspace switcher so that it had a brighter color for the workspace i'm in
[08:32] <halberd> like blue instead of orange
[08:32] <The_Warlock> how do i install sendmail on jaunty?
[08:32] <halberd> that way it would be easy to remember by looking up
[08:32] <Rishab_> can any one tell me how to restore the ubuntu OS ??
[08:33] <vise> Rishab_, From what state? What has happened?
[08:34] <Spike1506> !netbeans
[08:34] <mejobloggs> i cant get my projector to work on my ubuntu laptop, is there a way to tell if its an os setting problem, or hardware? fyi when it's plugged in it appears in nvidia drivers, but just cant get a picture
[08:34] <Rishab_> vise actually I installed some packages from other repo and my system got unstable
[08:34] <Spike1506> hmm, anyone knows how long it usually takes before a netbeans update makes it to the ubuntu repo?
[08:35] <vise> Rishab_, other repo? Can't you uninstall them?
[08:36] <Rishab_> vise and now while bootin my system the GDM fails to load and automatically my screen gets to sleep state //
[08:36] <kdub> Rishab_: "other repos" are not always to be trusted. you can try uninstalling the packages you installed, but it is possible that those programs modified affected configurations that wont be undone with an uninstall
[08:37] <Rishab_> kdub is there any way to restore my system as it was on tomoro
[08:37] <toter> in kde4, when I hover the mouse on Kickoff, it shows an annoying popup. Actually, this popup shows in every icon I hover on the taskbar. is there a way to remove this nagging popup?
[08:38] <kdub> Rishab_: unless you set it up, not really. full system snapshots don't really make sense
[08:39] <vise> Isnt there a recovery option for ubuntu? :O
[08:40] <Rishab_> vise but my GDM fails to start how can i recover in text mdoe
[08:40] <Rishab_> or in single user mode
[08:40] <kdub> you have to take steps to set it up
[08:40] <CooosmiChaos> press escape select recovery mode
[08:40] <vise> I mean put your install cd or live cd, and see if there is a recovery option... I am not sure.. :(
[08:41] <CooosmiChaos> dont you have one in grub???
[08:41] <heroid> with the alternative cd
[08:41] <heroid> you got recovery mode
[08:41] <heroid> and with the dvd
[08:41] <kdub> Rishab_: my advice is to uninstall the other packages, and fix any problems
[08:41] <Rishab_> no i donot have CD to recover it
[08:41] <vise> CooosmiChaos, Grub just boots into text mode.. Hes already in text mode.. lol
[08:41] <kdub> CooosmiChaos: his problem is not that he can't access the terminal, its that a package caused unstable system configs
[08:42] <vise> Rishab_, What did you install it with?
[08:42] <kdub> if you go into recovery mode, you still have to know what you're doing
[08:42] <heroid> yep that happend to me
[08:42] <Rishab_> kdub actuallt i don't rememb. all the packages i installed
[08:42] <heroid> it can cause kernel panic
[08:43] <CooosmiChaos> im not in it at the hole, is this system installed on hd or does the live-cds dont work?
[08:44] <Rishab_> any other ideas ??
[08:44] <SmoKeyCastle> Hi, In ifconfig, it shows multiple interfaces, two of which are mon0 and mon1, how would i find out what physical adapter these are associated with?
[08:45] <vise> Rishab_, You have to have a cd.. What did you install it from?
[08:46] <Rishab_> vice i have the CD but in that no recovery option
[08:48] <jilbert> hi all
[08:49] <jilbert> does anybody know how to install crossover to 64bit jaunty?
[08:50] <SmoKeyCastle> what kind of devices have a 16 key hw address?
[08:50] <Faithful> upgraded to jaunty and now amarok only plays some mp3s and not others... what is that???
[08:50] <hatori> hello i got an eeepc 1000he with intel gma 950 and the it doesnt detect my external monitor when i resume my system
[08:50] <hatori> does anyone know that issue{
[08:50] <hatori> {
[08:51] <hatori> damn. thats supposed to be ?
[08:51] <Faithful> hatori, no but there is plenty of docs about getting eepc to work right
[08:52] <hiug> !debian
[08:52] <hiug> How is the Ubuntu community different from the Debian community?
[08:54] <hatori> Faithful: well its working all right. might as well just be some karmic issue
[08:55] <JoeM> could someone explain how to turn on PAE mode?  I want to use more than 4G of ram without having to reinstall as 64bit
[08:55] <dragon_> !enter | hatori
[08:55] <vise> JoeM, You have to recompile kernel with PAE option i think..
[08:56] <JoeM> hmm... that's almost as irritating as having to reinstall
[08:57] <bullgard4> Why does '~$ sudo netstat -a -n -o -p –inet –inet6 | grep ekiga > ekiga.txt' respond with "usage:"?
[08:57] <JoeM> hmm... besides 2 years of configuration tweaks, what do I risk losing if I reinstall as 64bit?
[08:57] <JoeM> IE, wine still work (have one app I need for work), all basic apps, etc
[08:58] <vise> JoeM, Why would you lose if you reinstall? You just format the partition.. You have to backup required data (installer packages)
[08:58] <Faithful> of course you need to install phonon-backend-xine for amarok to play *all* mp3s ???
[08:58] <lstarnes> bullgard4: try using --inet instead of --inet and --inet6
[08:59] <JoeM> visa some apps don't work under 64bit
[08:59] <JoeM> ment vise there, heh
[08:59] <lstarnes> bullgard4: wait, never mind.  What you had looks correct, but it's using something else instead of --
[09:00] <adam7> JoeM: what do you need to run that doesn't work?
[09:01]  * Mayazcherquoi is away: Can't you see that i'm away? Gosh!
[09:01] <lstarnes> !away > Mayazcherquoi
[09:01] <Cynner> http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139730844
[09:01] <JoeM> adam7 I haven't installed yet, hence I'm asking what (basic things, like wine) doesn't work
[09:02] <Mayazcherquoi> Sorry lstarnes :(
[09:02] <Mayazcherquoi> Didn't know it was such a nuisence.
[09:02] <adam7> JoeM: AFAIK wine works in 64bit
[09:02] <vise> JoeM, No idea about 64 bit..
[09:02] <losher> !away
[09:03] <JoeM> adam7 main things I need are Hamachi (via google appears it will work), Synergy, wine, skype, vuze , wmctrl... just about everything else is default installed so they should work
[09:03] <adam7> JoeM: almost anything open source will work
[09:03] <adam7> JoeM: I use skype, that works
[09:05] <JoeM> adam7 debating on just moving current 32bit to new hardware (but then I'd have to deal with turning PAE back on after any kernel updates) or just doing 64bit clean install and trying to remember all the extra things I installed
[09:05] <adam7> JoeM: also, if you don't reformat /home then you can keep your settings
[09:05] <adam7> JoeM: and synaptic can give you a list of installed packages
[09:05] <adam7> JoeM: and if you want, you can probably copy /etc and then dump that in your 64bit install
[09:07] <JoeM> adam7 really... I didn't think that would work... (the /etc part)
[09:07] <bullgard4> lstarnes: '~$ sudo netstat -a -n -o -p –inet | grep ekiga works but does not produce output. --  So -inet6 is the culprit.
[09:07] <adam7> JoeM: why not? it's all config files
[09:07] <JoeM> adam7 which would you do, I'm putting together a i7 920 system
[09:07] <JoeM> adam7 I don't know which sections of the OS are different under 64bit
[09:07] <aim> Hi guys, can some one help me with name resolution?
[09:07] <lstarnes> bullgard4: 'sudo netstat -anop --inet --inet6' worked for me
[09:07] <aim> IP/name resolution is shocking.
[09:08] <imatech> I need an epson workhorse 500 print driver
[09:08] <kraut> moin
[09:08] <aim> It just turns itself off.
[09:08] <JoeM> adam7 I have about 2 years worth of little changes I've made, most of which I don't even remember (but I will when I start saying WHY WON'T THIS WORK...)
[09:08] <aim> and then on again after ~20seconds
[09:08] <adam7> JoeM: I've been using 64bit for a couple of years, so I'm not much help in migrating...
[09:08] <JoeM> adam7 heh, I'm thinking that would be the better way... just a bit more painful to get things back
[09:08] <adam7> JoeM: but you should be able to copy /home and /etc to a new install with minimal trouble, and then use Synaptic to get a list of teh installed packages and reinstall them
[09:08] <JoeM> adam7 do you have any experience with SSD?
[09:09] <adam7> JoeM: nope
[09:09] <bullgard4> lstarnes: For me too. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[09:09] <adam7> JoeM: I just have an AMDx2 that I run my 64bit on with a normal drive
[09:09] <adam7> works great
[09:09] <redsoxking> quick question, is there a way for me to make an ISO image of my current ubuntu, that I can use to boot into a new computer with all of my same apps and configs?
[09:10] <JoeM> adam7 just got an i7 920, OCZ Vertex 30G for the OS drive and Samsung SpinPoint F1 (2x in RAID 0) for /home
[09:10] <adam7> JoeM: is an i7 an intel quad?
[09:10] <adam7> JoeM: how much RAM do you have?
[09:10] <n0gearII> !clone
[09:10] <JoeM> adam7 yeah, it's the quad
[09:11] <JoeM> adam7 right now 6G that I can use, I have another 2G but since the i7 uses tri-channel I need to buy two more sticks (so I'll have 12G in a few weeks)
[09:11] <bobbyyu> Hey guys.
[09:11] <JoeM> adam7 with 6-12G of ram, would it be safe to go without a swap?
[09:11] <ralfgro> morning! I've some problems setting up kerberos (active directory) auth for offline clients (eg laptops)
[09:11] <adam7> JoeM: I have no idea what anyone would possibly use that much RAM for, but anyway. You'll need to enable PAE or use 64bit to use it all
[09:11] <ralfgro> I configure pam for local linux auth and krb5
[09:12] <redsoxking> ubottu, ur pretty helpful for a boot lol
[09:12] <adam7> JoeM: I occasionally go without swap with 2gb, you should be fine. But if you want to use hibernate you'll need 1:1 RAM:swap
[09:12] <ralfgro> additionally pam_ccreds.so
[09:12] <bobbyyu> Has anyone here who uses Transmission notice freezing in the program?
[09:12] <ralfgro> I can login with the local unix pw and the ad pw when online
[09:12] <JoeM> adam7 yeah, I knew that part (PAE or 64bit)... hmm hibernate would be good
[09:12] <ralfgro> but I always get the 60 second timeout when offline with the ad password
[09:13] <bobbyyu> I'm not making an ass out of myself, but I just want to point it out.
[09:13] <jilbert> hi.. is there a way for me to join my Desktop in windows 2003 Domain?
[09:13] <Diana_> hi
[09:13] <pirx> hi! if i want to install ubuntu on some 16 servers, and would like to do this with some kind of network-install of some pre-built image that i have compiled, what system should i look at?
[09:13] <JoeM> adam7 think 17G would be enough for a OS partition (I could split my 30G SSD for swap)?
[09:13] <pierre3400> Hey, anyone here the knows anything about getting ubuntu and vista to talk over a network? I installed samba, and did what i am suppose to, but they still wont find each other?
[09:13] <adam7> JoeM: if the only drive you have is that SSD I would just forget hibernate and use it all for root
[09:14] <vigo> pirx: 8.04LTS would be my guess.
[09:14] <adam7> pirx: if they're identical servers, you could make a disk image and use dd to write it
[09:14] <JoeM> adam7 I'll have 2TB for home, so I can easily put it there, but the SSD is the faster one
[09:15] <pirx> vigo: yes, it will be 8.04lts version of ubuntu, but i am looking for some way to "pump" it out to the servers, with some software pre-installed
[09:15] <adam7> JoeM: unless your doing some crazy 3d rendering or something you're never going to use more than 3 gb probably
[09:15] <MindVirus> Hello. Can anyone with libpng3 please send me /usr/lib/libpng.so.3?
[09:15] <MindVirus> That is, if you're on a 32-bit system.
[09:15] <JoeM> adam7 not yet, but I may in the future... but plan to upgrade again before than anyway
[09:15] <adam7> JoeM: but anyway, if you want to use hibernate you can stick the swap parition on one of your drives
[09:16] <pirx> adam7: hmm. doesnt that sound kind of primitive? :) isnt there some "boot and install over network" system?
[09:16] <vigo> pirx: What adam7 said was on time, like a net install or better yet a mv or cp
[09:16] <JoeM> adam7 you've been helpful, I think I'll try a fresh install of 9.04 64bit and if it's too painful or some things don't work I'll try PAE mode instead
[09:16] <adam7> pirx: there is, but I've never used it :)
[09:16] <adam7> !install | pirx
[09:16] <hiug> Is Ubuntu better than Debian?
[09:16] <adam7> pirx: also, there is a channel for ubuntu servers, #ubuntu-server I think
[09:16] <_zic> hello
[09:17] <aim> hiug: depends on your requirements and definitions of 'better'
[09:17] <Myrtti> hiug: that's a matter of opinion
[09:17] <aim> _zic, hi
[09:17] <pirx> adam7: ah yes, there is, thanks!
[09:17] <MindVirus> Myrtti, also a matter of specifics.
[09:17] <adam7> pirx: they'll know more about that then us
[09:17] <adam7> probably
[09:17] <aim> everyone: In general, there's no right answer.
[09:17] <vigo> 42
[09:17] <pierre3400> Hey, anyone here the knows anything about getting ubuntu and vista to talk over a network? I installed samba, and did what i am suppose to, but they still wont find each other?
[09:18] <pirx> adam7: but its a good idea for me to read that installation url first:)
[09:18] <aim> restart the vista machine (make sure file sharing is enabled
[09:18] <MindVirus> Can anyone with libpng3 please send me /usr/lib/libpng.so.3?
[09:18] <pirx> pierre3400: are they in the same workgroup?
[09:18] <adam7> pirx: yep, if you can install it somehow, it's probably there
[09:18] <MindVirus> I know someone here has libpng3.
[09:18] <MindVirus> I would really appreciate it.
[09:18] <MindVirus> Thanks.
[09:18] <pierre3400> good question, how do i know this?
[09:18] <_zic> does anyone know whether firefox 3.5 will be available for ubuntu 8.04 through repositories ?
[09:18] <pierre3400> where can i find my vista workgroup name?
[09:19] <adam7> MindVirus: packages.ubuntu.org, you can download anything
[09:19] <Slart> MindVirus: ehm.. so any version will do? 47 bit, home compiled risc version? =)
[09:19] <aim> right click on mycomputer>properties
[09:19] <MindVirus> Slart, no, I specifically said 32-bit.
[09:19] <ubuntu__> folks, how can i check the chmod of a folder?
[09:19] <aim> pierre3400
[09:19] <MindVirus> And I would assume that a 32-bit system with libpng3 nowadays runs x86.
[09:19] <MindVirus> adam7, that's definitely invalid.
[09:19] <Slart> MindVirus: "10:18 < MindVirus> Can anyone with libpng3 please send me /usr/lib/libpng.so.3?"
[09:19] <adam7> MindVirus: what is?
[09:19] <MindVirus> Slart, previously I stated 32-bit.
[09:20] <pierre3400> thnx i think i found my problem there
[09:20] <ubuntu__> anyone?
[09:20] <MindVirus> adam7, the site.
[09:20] <ubuntu__> im trying to find out what chmod a certain forlder is
[09:20] <aim> the default for ubuntu is "workgroup" I believe
[09:20] <Slart> MindVirus: nevermind.. just go to packages.ubuntu.com
[09:20] <adam7> MindVirus: sorry, it's http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:20] <adam7> I mixed up the org/com
[09:20] <MindVirus> Ahh, OK. :D
[09:20] <MindVirus> Thanks.
[09:21] <vigo> !FF3.5
[09:23] <pierre3400> ok, the workgroup on my vista is called workgroup and also on ubuntu, so now imma restart, hope it works
[09:23] <aim> pierre3400: gl
[09:25] <pierre3400> oh yeh, it works now :) thnx
[09:25] <pierre3400> alomost
[09:26] <pierre3400> i can find my vista pc on ubuntu but no ubuntu on vista
[09:26] <aim> pierre3400: almost?
[09:26] <pierre3400> yes almost
[09:26] <pierre3400> i can find my vista pc on ubuntu but no ubuntu on vista
[09:26] <MindVirus> Slart, adam7: I don't know how to get files from the package without installing.
[09:26] <MindVirus> The packages contain the file I'm looking for but it's 0 bytes.
[09:27] <adam7> MindVirus: right click, and use the archive manager to open it
[09:27] <ubuntu__> folks i chmoded a windows xp to 777 and now in xp i cannot access the folder
[09:27] <Slart> MindVirus: hmm.. hang on.. let me download it and check
[09:27] <MindVirus> adam7, I did.
[09:27] <ubuntu__> can anyone recommend me what to do?
[09:27] <aim> pierre3400: http://us6.samba.org/samba/ will have more information on how to configure Samba.
[09:28] <aim> It could also be the vista machine, check your firewall etc.
[09:28] <aim> also all your settings should allow filesharing etc.
[09:28] <vise> ubuntu__, How do you chmod a whole os?
[09:28] <pierre3400> the firewall is off
[09:29] <ubuntu__> vise, i didnt, just a certain folder
[09:29] <vise> ubuntu__, File system? NTFS?
[09:29] <Slart> MindVirus: that package (libpng) depends on libpng12 something.. it's listed on the page for the package
[09:29] <ubuntu__> yup
[09:29] <vise> ubuntu__, What does Xp say? Access denied?
[09:29] <MindVirus> Slart, OK...
[09:30] <ubuntu__> vise yea
[09:30] <Slart> MindVirus: it might just be a symbolic link to some other file
[09:30] <gavi> ahh thats better
[09:30] <gavi> vise,  any suggestions?
[09:30] <MindVirus> What the hell.
[09:30] <MindVirus> Slart, are you 32-bit?
[09:30] <wapko> ubuntu__: cant you just copy the contents of the folder to a new folder ?
[09:31] <vise> gavi, Yeah.. copy to new folder..
[09:31] <gavi> wapko, in windows or in ubuntu live?
[09:31] <Slart> MindVirus: not at the moment, no
[09:31] <vise> gavi, ubuntu live
[09:31] <wapko> gavi: in ubuntu
[09:31] <gavi>  make the folder with ubuntu
[09:31] <gavi> ok
[09:31] <gavi> ill try that
[09:31] <Slart> MindVirus: what are you trying to do? why not just install libpng3 using apt-get?
[09:32] <MindVirus> Slart, I have it installed using apt, but one of the games I play is 32-bit.
[09:32] <MindVirus> And it depends on libpng.so.3.
[09:32] <MindVirus> Does anyone here run a 32-bit system?
[09:32] <gavi> if i create a new folder on a windows ntfs partition than ubuntu will by default make the new folder compatible for windows?
[09:33] <vise> gavi, Yes
[09:33] <Slart> MindVirus: but aren't there tools available to download 32-bit stuff on a 64-bit machine? I seem to remember something that did that automagically
[09:33] <jilbert> gavi, correct
[09:33] <MindVirus> Slart, no clue.
[09:33] <vise> gavi, Ubuntu doesnt do anything.. But the chmod mostly messes up with NTFS..
[09:33] <gavi> vise, jilbert, good 2 know thanks
[09:33] <JoeM> adam7 on Synaptic, File-> Generate Package Download Script... is that what I want, to get a list (sounds like a script to download that list) of packages I have installed?
[09:33] <Slart> MindVirus: but anyways.. if you look at your system   "ls -l `locate libpng.so.3`" you'll see that libpng.so.3 is just a symbolic link to libpng12.so.0
[09:34] <MindVirus> Hmm. OK.
[09:34] <MindVirus> I'll buy that.
[09:34] <jilbert> does anybody know how to install crossover on 64 bit?
[09:34] <pierre3400> ok so now i've restarted both machines, wish me luck
[09:35] <jilbert> good luck pierre3400
[09:36] <pierre3400> how ubuntu wont find my laptop :/
[09:36] <kennyyu> hi there, can i be told how to see the cpu utilization if i have got several cpus?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> jilbert: contact the devs, they will support you as you have paid for support as well as te product
[09:36] <vegombrei> OttifantSir: thanks ... winff is indeed amazing
[09:36] <jilbert> i will. thanks. ^^
[09:36] <pierre3400> now ubuntu wont find my laptop :/
[09:39] <rww> kennyyu: System > Administration > System Monitor > Resources tab in GNOME, the "htop" package and command from the command-line (probably alternatives, but that's what I use).
[09:39] <n0gearII> how do i set dyndns on my server?
[09:39] <ikonia> n0gearII: just change your dns servers to point to dyndsn servers
[09:39] <censushq> hello
[09:40] <censushq> i downloaded wp8 and cant get the package to install
[09:40] <Slart> n0gearII: check the dyndns site.. I think they have tutorials there for all kinds of systems... there are some updaters available in the repos
[09:40] <ikonia> censushq: wp8 ?
[09:40] <n0gearII> ikonia: at /etc/network/interfaces ???
[09:41] <censushq> wordperfect 8
[09:41] <ikonia> n0gearII: use the gui if you are not sure
[09:41] <censushq> for linux
[09:41] <pierre3400> This is annoying! Why wont it find my vista laptop now?!
[09:41] <clank> "find"
[09:41] <clank> ?
[09:41] <ikonia> pierre3400: what's the issue ?
[09:41] <n0gearII> Slart: yes i found the update client. hope it works on cli as well
[09:41] <pierre3400> well
[09:41] <Slart> n0gearII: it does.. I run it
[09:41] <silidan> pierre3400: did you find youre vista laptop?
[09:41] <lokasenna> What does ppa# stand for?
[09:41] <ikonia> !ppa
[09:42] <kennyyu> rww: thanks, but i'm using LTS.. :(
[09:42] <Slart> n0gearII: but I installed it so long ago that I don't really remember what I did
[09:42] <rww> censushq: WordPerfect for Linux has been obsolete for about four years. If you have WordPerfect documents you need to open. OpenOffice should be able to do it.
[09:42] <rww> kennyyu: and?
[09:42] <kennyyu> so you mean htop the command right?
[09:42] <censushq> is there an openoffice import filter for wpd
[09:42] <n0gearII> Slart: no worries. seems theres pretty decent howtos on dyndns site.
[09:42] <pierre3400> im trying to get my laptop and stationary talking over the network. Laptop running vista and stationary running ubuntu, before i restarted unbuntu had found my laptop on the network, but the laptop found nothing
[09:43] <censushq> r u in the same network domain
[09:43] <pierre3400> both are on WORKGROUP
[09:43] <kennyyu> rww: thanks a lot!
[09:43] <rww> censushq: looks like it, though i don't have any wordperfect documents to test with
[09:43] <clank> pierre3400: "found"? what are you talking about?
[09:43] <censushq> ok thanks, will try oo
[09:44] <pierre3400> found mening showing up, being able to see it, click it access it
[09:44] <clank> show up where?
[09:44] <censushq> sometimes vista uses lowercase "workgroup"
[09:44] <clank> you can even ping each other?
[09:44] <censushq> my Xandros EEEPC requires the domain in lowercase
[09:44] <pierre3400> i checked it running "WORKGROUP" :)
[09:44] <censushq> my ubuntu wants uppercase
[09:45] <pierre3400> wtf?! everytime i restart ubuntu more and more goes missing or settings dont stay saved :S
[09:45] <censushq> are there other channels on this hostname
[09:46] <silidan> type /list
[09:46] <ikonia> pierre3400: please control your language. We know what "wtf" means and don't need to see it
[09:46] <pierre3400> sorry
[09:46] <ikonia> censushq: see the freenode website
[09:46] <censushq> i have been using irc over 15 years
[09:46] <silidan> windows tends to find things?
[09:46] <censushq> i did my masters thesis about irc
[09:46] <discorpia> hello. i have a problem with my monitor/resolution. the resolution is right but all pixels seems "out of phase", when zoomed in it's not very noticable, but small text is unreadable. if i move windows around, the text "jumps"/"leaks" color on the sides. 1px red or 1px blue, anybody what the cause of this could be? invalid sync values? wrong dpi?
[09:46] <ikonia> censushq: then stop asking basic questions
[09:47] <n0gearII> Slart: well that was easy. apt-get and it asked all the questions and now its running ... well i hope it is
[09:47] <frans> hello everyonw
[09:47] <frans> i need your help... please
[09:47] <silidan> i dont have any help left sorry
[09:47] <maarten_> hello all
[09:47] <Slart> n0gearII: well.. it's hard to know.. until it breaks =)
[09:47] <achadwick> discorpia: is your monitor a flatscreen or a CRT?
[09:47] <shaullx> something happened and i can't watch youtube videos :O
[09:48] <shaullx> i just see a white space
[09:48] <silidan> i guess the principle dont ask to ask just ask applys here
[09:48] <harobed> have you also this annoying issue : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/343371 ?
[09:48] <discorpia> achadwick: flatscreen, with a manually patched EDID-file (which i guess is part of the problem, i just can't figure out which parameters gives these artifacts)
[09:49] <achadwick> discorpia: also, assume you've checked that Appearance > Fonts > subpixel rendering isn't wrong for your monitor
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | frans
[09:49] <Slart> discorpia: hmm.. perhaps there is a setting for in which order the rgb-cells are.. and you're using the subpixel rendering.. that's about the only thing I think of
[09:49] <n0gearII> Slart: an it does work! excellent
[09:49] <discorpia> achadwick: yeah, it affects all graphics, not just text. but it's the exact same feature as you get with faulty cleartype settings
[09:49] <fasilkaks> hi e'one...good day...
[09:50] <fasilkaks> could anyone help with dns server setup
[09:50] <achadwick> discorpia: run xdpyinfo in a terminal. are the dimensions OK for screen #0 (or whatever)?
[09:50] <pierre3400> why am going backwards :(
[09:51] <fasilkaks> HELLO ......... COULD ANYONE HELP ME WITH DNS SERVER SETUP? I AM A TOTAL NEWBY TO THIS LINUX WORLD....
[09:51] <achadwick> discorpia: also, does it look misaligned, i.e. somewhere red fringing, somewhere blue fringing?
[09:51] <discorpia> achadwick: yeah, that's it exactly. misaligned
[09:51] <ikonia> fasilkaks: hi there, you'll find it a lot easier to chat in here if you don't use capslock
[09:51] <ikonia> fasilkaks: people respond better to lower case conversation
[09:51] <Slart> fasilkaks: a first hint.. don't use caps or people will ignore you
[09:51] <fasilkaks> no issues
[09:51] <fasilkaks> thanks a lot
[09:51] <ikonia> fasilkaks: first of all, what is your end goal
[09:51] <vegombrei> brasero has issues burning VCD's ... i looked up if there are plugins etc but didnt find any .. whhats the best all purpose cd/dvd burning software for ubuntu?
[09:51] <discorpia> achadwick: do you know what that could stem from?
[09:52] <Slart> !burn
[09:52] <achadwick> discorpia: sorry, meant -consisently- misaligned over the entire screen, or misilingned so as to get different fringing at diff. horiz / vert positions?
[09:52] <fasilkaks> ikonia: i would have a machine which i need to setup as a dns
[09:52] <thesandman> can anyone help me diagnois an eaves dropping problem with ubuntu?
[09:52] <ikonia> fasilkaks: do you want your machine to be able to use DNS, or run a DNS server
[09:52] <ikonia> thesandman: eaves dropping ?
[09:53] <Balkrah> HELP! My window manager has crashed and the only way i can get it to work is to log in as root!
[09:53] <discorpia> achadwick: oh, the latter. it's misaligned with either red or blue "overbleed" depending on position
[09:53] <fasilkaks> ikonia: i would like the machine to be my dns server
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> fasilkaks: http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/11/07/how-to-setup-a-dns-server-in-ubuntu/
[09:53] <discorpia> achadwick: xdpyinfo says, dimensions:    1920x1200 pixels (341x272 millimeters), resolution:    143x112 dots per inch, which is probably a part of the problem then, because the active area is supposed to be 518x324
[09:53] <discorpia> millimeters
[09:53] <spsneo> !ff35
[09:53] <ikonia> fasilkaks: do you understand the princiapals of DNS - you need two static IP address to host a DNS domain, do you have that ?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip1> fasilkaks: you can also simply install dnsmasq which will give you a local dns server and speed up web browsing
[09:54] <thesandman> Ikonia: yess I clicked on an app offline and it didn't respond right away and a box poped up saying a malicious software might be eavesdropping?
[09:54] <frans> hello every one. i need help. i just installed ubuntu 8 as second os. my first os is winxp. after the ubuntu installation completed, i can't boot winxp. it said 'missing hal.dll'. i have tried modifing grub and boot.ini but no solution. anyone can help?
[09:54] <fasilkaks> yes
[09:54] <hiug> !stable
[09:54] <ikonia> thesandman: which application did you click on ?
[09:54] <ikonia> fasilkaks: yes what ?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip1> frans: did you resize an ntfs partition to make space for ubuntu?
[09:54] <fasilkaks> i have two ips
[09:54] <ikonia> fasilkaks: you have two static ip addresses ?
[09:54] <thesandman> mouse
[09:54] <frans> no i did not. i have spared a partition for linux.
[09:54] <Balkrah> frans: the same thing happened to my friend, who had to reinstall *everythin*
[09:55] <fasilkaks> ikonia: yes
[09:55] <pierre3400> Im seriously going backwards here, first i changed the workgroup names so they matched, and then my vista laoptop showed up on ubuntu, but now nothing shows up, not even the ubuntu machine shows up on the network in ubuntu?!
[09:55] <ikonia> fasilkaks: super so what part are you not clear on ?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> frans: ok, but was it ALL NTFS then you resized to make space for ubuntu
[09:55] <achadwick> discorpia: the mm setting is largely irrelevant. Sounds like a wrong-resolution issue to me.
[09:55] <n0gearII> what would be a light weight web browser?
[09:55] <thesandman> ikonia: are you familiar with any malicious software with ubuntu that eaves drop?
[09:55] <jeremy1> can anyone help me install vmware player?  it is giving me an error of can't find kernel headers
[09:55] <ikonia> thesandman: what application did you click
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> n0gearII: firepup, swiftfox, kazenchase
[09:55] <n0gearII> ActionParsnip1: ty
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> !vmware | jeremy
[09:55] <jeremy1> !vmware
[09:56] <jeremy1> ?
[09:56] <thesandman> ikonia: scroll up^....mouse app
[09:56] <fasilkaks> ikonia: the first thing is that i am using kubuntu for my laptop. and all the studies i carry out in a centos pc.
[09:56] <discorpia> achadwick: yeah, one might think so, but the native resolution of this screen is supposed to be 1920x1200, so not sure where to go from now
[09:56] <frans> Actionparnsip1: it was all ntfs. i intended make 3 partitions: one for linux, one for data and one for winxp
[09:56] <ikonia> fasilkaks: do you want to put a dns server on ubuntu or centos ?
[09:56] <n0gearII> ActionParsnip1: none of those can be found from repos :(
[09:56] <fasilkaks> ikonia: in centos
[09:57] <ikonia> thesandman: I cannot find any reference to the mallicious popup in gnome's desktop design
[09:57] <jeremy1> ive already installed it manually, it just won't find the headers for Kernel Linux 2.6.27-8-eeepc
[09:57] <ikonia> fasilkaks: then ask in #centos
[09:57] <thesandman> ikonia: it does'nt matter about the software...all i'm concerned about is the malicious software that's causing the attacks...are you familiar with it at all?
[09:57] <ikonia> thesandman: which mouse app exactly
[09:57] <fasilkaks> ikonia: i dont know how to get in there
[09:57] <ikonia> fasilkaks: /join #centos
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> frans: then you may have damaged the file, i suggest you get a new copy of the file or run a repair install, the fact that it boots means grub is ok
[09:57] <fasilkaks> ikonia: lemme try and thanks for ur help :)
[09:58] <frans> actionparnship1: can you explain how the file (hal.dll) damaged?
[09:58] <thesandman> ikonia: all I know it's in the app bin at the top of the page in others, but that's besides the point quit asking which app...the problem is "MALICIOUS EAVES DROPPING OK"
[09:58] <pierre3400> is it possible to a system restore on ubuntu?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> frans: well if you've resized the partition and its gone a bit weird then it may damage or destroy the file
[09:58] <ikonia> thesandman: I suspect that is a webpage popup rather than an application
[09:59] <ikonia> thesandman: please tell me exactly which application you clicked
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> frans: their is nowarranty of garuntee with linux so this can happen which is why you should make sure your backups are recent before startig
[09:59] <thesandman> ikonia: I just told you I was offline when I clicked on the MOUSE APP
[09:59] <ikonia> thesandman: which mouose app - please stop using capps
[10:00] <ikonia> thesandman: web pages don't have to be online depending on your browsing habbits
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> frans: i'd ask in ##windows on how to recover the file
[10:00] <Supersaiyan_IV> frans, did you resize your partiton?
[10:00] <frans> actionparnsip1: i already have 3 partitions long ago. the third partition is unused. before i install linux, the winxp boots normally.
[10:00] <thesandman> iknoia: quit asking me which "APPS" if you cant help me then quit asking me which "APPS"
[10:00] <ikonia> thesandman: just tell me the name of the application you clicked
[10:01] <n0gearII> whats the smallest web browser that can be found from the repo?
[10:01] <frans> Supersaiyan_IV: no i did not resize it. i already have the partition long before i install ubuntu. i installed ubuntu this morning.
[10:01] <thesandman> ikonia: YOUR VERY STUPID
[10:01] <ikonia> n0gearII: there are text based ones such as lynx or elinks
[10:01] <Slart> n0gearII: links? it's command line though
[10:01] <aim> thesandman, if you do want help, be polite.
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> frans: you said " i can't boot winxp. it said 'missing hal.dll'. i have tried modifing grub and boot.ini but no solution. anyone can help?"
[10:01] <n0gearII> would have to be GUI
[10:01] <aim> Oops, my words of wisdom are too late I guess ikonia
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> frans: now you are saying it boots normally?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> n0gearII: midori or firepup
[10:02] <frans> ActionParsnip1: yes
[10:02] <Supersaiyan_IV> frans, im no windows expert so no idea why some dll file dot damaged
[10:02] <Supersaiyan_IV> g*
[10:02] <n0gearII> ActionParsnip1: ty
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> frans: so which is it, sounds like you dont have any issue as you said initially that ubuntu boots ok and xp doesn't, now you say xp is ok so sounds like you are ok
[10:02] <discorpia> achadwick: thanks for the feedback mate
[10:03] <aim> ikonia, can you help me again?
[10:03] <Supersaiyan_IV> although I must add that triple boot works flawlessly
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> n0gearII: it depends on plugins and addons really
[10:03] <ikonia> aim: what's up, sorry, I missed your question
[10:03] <aim> ikonia; I asked you last night
[10:03] <sixxxx> anyone use virtualbox with ubuntu ?
[10:03] <ikonia> aim: I don't remember, can you please remind me
[10:03] <n0gearII> ActionParsnip1: midori seems ok.c. 50mb. Tried FF3.5 and it would have been almost 200mb
[10:03] <frans>  ActionParsnip1: no. first i have winxp with 3 partitions. then i install ubuntu on one of the partition. then i can't boot winxp.
[10:04] <aim> ikonia: I have the intermittent name resolution/packet loss problem.
[10:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> n0gearII, is FF3.5 in PPA?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> frans: ahh so you had 3 windows partitions and you sacrificed one for linux
[10:04] <ikonia> aim: ooh yes, that's right, on the wirless connection wasn't it
[10:04] <aim> ikonia: I'm not sure what's wrong really
[10:04] <aim> ikonia:Yes
[10:04] <n0gearII> Supersaiyan_IV: yes it was there as an option
[10:04] <ikonia> aim: what have you done so far to resolve it ?
[10:04] <Supersaiyan_IV> awsome
[10:04] <frans> ActionParsnip1: yes
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> frans: can you boot safemode
[10:05] <pierre3400> Right, i changed the name of the workgroud once more, this made me able to see the vista pc again, but no access
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> frans: i think you'll get better support in ##windows as they use the OS
[10:05] <aim> ikonia: Not much, I've got two terminals open constantly pinging google, one using the IP address, the other using the 'name' or whatever you call it
[10:05] <esb_> frans: Dependencies for MBR ? Same disc..?
[10:05] <frans> ActionParsnip1: how? because when i choose the winxp entry from grub, it instantly display the 'missing hal.dll' message.
[10:05] <ikonia> aim: ok - what's the output of those commands ? does one always work, the other not etc
[10:05] <sixxxx> anybody use virtual box ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> frans: as long as its not the system partition that you destroyed you should e fine
[10:05] <frans> ActionParsnip1: how to join #windows?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> frans: /join ##windows
[10:06] <silidan> sixxxx: what you want to get to run?
[10:06] <pierre3400> when i right click and go to permissions, it says The permissions og "smb" could not be determined
[10:06] <frans> ActionParsnip1: just joined. thanks.
[10:06] <koshari> sixxxx many do
[10:06] <aim> ikonia: sort of, one changes like, when I ping the name (google.com) whenever the timeout occurs the output changes, but does not timeout itself
[10:07] <sixxxx> im not sure about the networking side of it silidan ..ive installed host on ubunut and my guest is slackware but not sure how to network em together
[10:07] <n0gearII> ahh crap. midori screws up the forum page that i need to use a lot
[10:07] <ikonia> aim: what does the output change to ? if you can caputre it and log it in a pastebin we'll see if we can take it forward
[10:07] <aim> ikonia:  This is a typical output from the name ping: 64 bytes from jp-in-f99.google.com (66.249.89.99): icmp_seq=1152 ttl=242 time=226 ms
[10:07] <aim> ikonia: and it changes to this, 64 bytes from 66.249.89.99: icmp_seq=966 ttl=242 time=223 ms
[10:08] <silidan> why does synaptic and apt-get aftersome reboots just segfault ?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> n0gearII: there are many brosers dude. Try a few
[10:08] <ikonia> aim: can you please pastebin the output of "netstrat -rn" please
[10:09] <aim> need root?
[10:09] <silidan> look at th help page, there is something about initiating an ipx network
[10:09] <aim> ikonia: need root?
[10:09] <silidan> sixxxx: look at th help page, there is something about initiating an ipx network
[10:09] <sixxxx> k silidan thanks
[10:09] <ikonia> aim: nah
[10:09] <aim> ikonia: w/o root: bash: netstrat: command not found
[10:10] <ikonia> netstat
[10:10] <ikonia> sorry, typo
[10:10] <aim> lol. I just copied and pasted, oops.
[10:10] <aim> ikonia: Kernel IP routing table
[10:10] <aim> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
[10:10] <aim> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 wlan0
[10:10] <aim> 169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U         0 0          0 wlan0
[10:10] <aim> 0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 wlan0
[10:10] <FloodBot2> aim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <silidan> sixxxx: or look here http://www.dosgames.com/forum/post-93916.html
[10:11] <ikonia> aim: I asked you to pastebin it but never mind
[10:11] <ikonia> aim: please open another window and run "ping 192.168.1.1 and see how that responds
[10:11] <aim> ikonia: It'd help If I knew what pastebin meant XD
[10:11] <ikonia> !pastebin > aim
[10:11] <ikonia> aim: if you don't know what something means, just ask
[10:11] <aim> ikonia: 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=155 time=1.41 ms
[10:12] <ikonia> aim: leave it going and see what happens in your next drop out
[10:12] <silidan> apt-get and synaptic segfaults what can i do?
[10:12] <aim> ikonia: that isn't the wireless router btw, that's the modem.
[10:12] <ikonia> aim: thats fine
[10:13] <aim> Ok cool.
[10:13] <aim> might be 15min till next dropout.
[10:13] <ikonia> aim: thats ok
[10:13] <sixxxx> thanks silidan
[10:13] <Slart> silidan: hmm.. system corruption? I would do a complete reinstall
[10:13] <koshari> my ubuntu 9.10 is locking up, i checked hardware, ram ect and it seems a software issue, my backup from 26-june seems solid, of the top of my head the only changes i can recall are installing ff 3.5 which the logs were saying was segfaulting, other events prior to the lockup were hda iqg issue,  any ideas?
[10:14] <hiug> Is there anything wrong with Debian compared to Ubuntu?
[10:14] <silidan> Slart: i had this issues before after a reboot they were fixed
[10:14] <Slart> silidan: you might be able to fix the problems you can spot easily but there might be other things crashing and running amok where you can't see them..
[10:15] <Slart> silidan: oh.. well.. a reboot is a pretty easy thing to try.. but I would look into what might be causing the problems.. could be bad memory or something
[10:15] <bullgard4> 'man netstat': "If you don't specify any address families, then the active sockets of all configured address families will be printed." Can you pleas list all 'address families' that are known to netstat?
[10:15] <silidan> Slart: exactly thats why im asking
[10:15] <koshari> hiug depends on what you want, are you looking at sid?
[10:15] <bullgard4> s/pleas/please/
[10:16] <Slart> silidan: there is a memtest option in the grub menu .. run that for a day or so
[10:16] <silidan> a memtest command?
[10:16] <Slart> silidan: it's best to run it from a live cd or from the grub menu..
[10:16] <silidan> one day or so...
[10:17] <kennyyu> hi there, how can i check if my server is heavily paging or not?
[10:17] <silidan> no option
[10:17] <koshari> kennyyu top?
[10:17] <silidan> but what can i do to find out why synaptic or apt-get do segfault atm?
[10:17] <Slart> silidan: there are some memory checkers you can run while the system is running too.. but you won't be able to check all your memory that way
[10:18] <kennyyu> koshari: thanks.. but which number should i read? i thought it only tells me what processes are running there
[10:18] <Faithful> Is there any resolution on the notebook overheating issue in Jaunty?
[10:19] <koshari> kennyyu will tell you % of memory also
[10:19] <silidan> sixxxx: by the way what game are you trying to play?
[10:19] <indus> update notifier where are you
[10:19] <kennyyu> koshari: ar.. understood.
[10:21] <wers> opening ssh for my ipod touch causes nautilus to crash. any idea why?
[10:21] <alteregoa> Das Merkel hat 50'000 Anhänger
[10:23] <violin> I am running Ubuntu with KDE. I have not installed the GNOME environment, but I need to use GNOME applications. How can I configure GNOME font without installing the GNOME environment?
[10:23] <varun> hello, i am new to ubuntu and have a ques
[10:24] <varun> can anybody help me
[10:24] <silidan> no
[10:24] <silidan> not at the moment
[10:25] <Myrtti> varun: ask, we couldn't tell if we can help you if you don't ask
[10:25] <Myrtti> silidan: be helpful, or be quiet
[10:25] <indus> varun:ask
[10:25] <indus> !FF3.5
[10:25] <varun> how do we apply a GDM theme?
[10:26] <indus> varun: go to system>adminuistration>login window
[10:26] <indus> varun: use preset or install custo,
[10:26] <varun> yes
[10:26] <indus> custom
[10:26] <indus> varun: see?
[10:27] <aim> ikonia: are you there?
[10:27] <varun> umm no
[10:27] <indus> varun: in local, you see some default themes
[10:27] <varun> yes
[10:27] <indus> varun: add button right side of themes
[10:27] <ikonia> aim: yes
[10:27] <zetheroo1> I have been trying to get my documents to open with another program than Abiword in Xubuntu but nothing I try works
[10:27] <indus> add your theme you downloaded
[10:28] <varun> ok
[10:28] <aim> ikonia: as far as I can tell, this is the only difference in between the two windows
[10:28] <aim> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=707 ttl=155 time=1.34 ms
[10:28] <aim> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=708 ttl=155 time=92.2 ms
[10:28] <ikonia> aim: has anything stopped working yet ?
[10:28] <zetheroo1> this is very frustrating ... its like Abiword will not back off from opening documents
[10:28] <aim> But not sure if it coincides with the stopping working.
[10:28] <aim> yeah it has.
[10:28] <aim> those spikes in times appear more often though.
[10:29] <ikonia> aim: can you try to match it up - as you can see at some point your link to your modem goes from 1 ms, to almost 1 second which is a mssive slow down
[10:29] <varun> yes done tnx
[10:29] <aim> ok, will try.
[10:29] <indus> kk
[10:29] <v3trae> zetheroo1: might want to try in #xubuntu chan
[10:29] <indus> varun: can u share that theme with me? which one is it
[10:29] <zetheroo1> v3trae: ok thanks
[10:30] <Ryan52> what comes after karmic?
[10:30] <varun> its avio-GDM
[10:30] <indus> varun: link?
[10:30] <indus> can anyone tell me whether they get update notifications in 9.04?
[10:30] <varun> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=37395&forumpage=2
[10:31] <dragon_> indus: i think it has to be enabled
[10:31] <aim> ikonia: the sequences coincide now, so I should be able to match them up.
[10:31] <indus> dragon_: i did that but it wont show ever
[10:31] <dragon_> indus: try sudo apt-get update
[10:32] <indus> dragon_: uhh, i know that is manual process
[10:32] <koshari> indus i do
[10:32] <indus> dragon_: i want the notification in panel auto appear
[10:32] <karamella> good morning all a wanna help how can install fonts from cd
[10:32] <indus> dragon_: right now situation is so desperate , i have added update-manager as a shortcut on the panel :(
[10:32] <koshari> Ryan52 10.04
[10:33] <ikonia> aim: cool
[10:33] <aim> ikonia: the timeouts do not coincide with the router ping spikes.
[10:33] <indus> varun: nice gdm
[10:33] <Ryan52> koshari: I want to know it's name
[10:33] <karamella> good morning all a wanna help how can install fonts from cd
[10:34] <dima_> Hallo ubuntu citizens!
[10:34] <aim> hi
[10:34] <koshari> Ryan52 i doubt it will have a nick untill round 9.10 launch time
[10:34] <_zic> hi
[10:34] <ikonia> aim: really, thats frustrating
[10:34] <indus> karamella: live cd?
[10:34] <ikonia> aim: that does suggest you have a problem there too then
[10:34] <aim> yeah...
[10:34] <Ryan52> ah, okie doke
[10:35] <karamella> yaa
[10:35] <shaullx> what music player can you rec me?
[10:35] <aim> Maybe. Or it's just the fact that a lot of people are using the same internet connection :P
[10:35] <aim> ikonia: Maybe. Or it's just the fact that a lot of people are using the same internet connection :P
[10:35] <gartral> whats a lightweight RSS reader for gnome?
[10:35] <koshari> karamella good question because the ttfonts package is an online installer,
[10:35] <ikonia> aim: are multiple people in your house going over the same modem ?
[10:35] <pierre3400> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205299 anyone able to help me out here?
[10:36] <silidan> update: i found out that its not synaptic or dpkg that segfaults but its sudo, so what can cause this?
[10:36] <dima_> any news from the ATI open source driver developers?!?
[10:36] <aim> Yes, but atm, I'm the only one on the wireless.
[10:36] <aim> we have a wireless router/switch connected to a gigabit switch, connected to a modem.
[10:36] <v3trae> aim: install etherape, it'll let you monitor all network traffic, let you see if someone else is spiking when your pings die.
[10:36] <ikonia> aim: that is possible that your modem is congested
[10:36] <ikonia> aim: that would explain the slow down
[10:37] <aim> ikonia: ok, will do that.
[10:37] <pierre3400> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205299 anyone able to help me out here?
[10:37] <aim> ikonia: is it in the repos?
[10:37] <v3trae> aim: i told you about it =P
[10:37] <_zic> shaullx, i own a 1st-gen ipod nano with rockbox installed, i'd recommend you the same :)
[10:37] <v3trae> aim: it should be under apt-get
[10:37] <silidan> ill be back
[10:37] <ikonia> aim: is what in the repo ?
[10:38] <v3trae> ikonia: replying to me
[10:38] <aim> ikonia:  oh ok.
[10:38] <shaullx> _zic i meant for linux lol
[10:38] <aim> v3trae: Yeah meant you :P
[10:38] <v3trae> aim: figured as much =P
[10:39] <_kl_> haw then upper fraimbuffet wath tv on ful screen?
[10:39] <aim> ikonia: okkk.... wtf
[10:39] <aim> ikonia:
[10:39] <aim> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[10:39] <_kl_> mplayer -vo fbdev file.avi not help(
[10:39] <aim> I can't use sudo, nor open synaptic...
[10:40] <v3trae> aim: you get that while doing what?
[10:40] <ikonia> aim: control the language a bit please,
[10:40] <shaullx> where can i get xmms player?
[10:40] <aim> ikonia: sorry
[10:40] <JoeM> this is off topic a little, but I'm putting together my new system and a little confused about the power connectors on the GTX 260
[10:40] <v3trae> shaullx: sudo apt-get install xmms
[10:40] <lstarnes> !xmms | shaullx
[10:40] <aim> v3trae: opening synaptice and trying to use sudo in terminal
[10:40] <ikonia> aim: no problem
[10:40] <shaullx> xmms2 is improved xmms?
[10:40] <ikonia> aim: use the gui to open synaptic
[10:40] <_zic> shaullx, sorry lol i use vlc, i think it's the best one
[10:40] <aim> ikonia: I did, it gave me
[10:40] <aim> The underlying authorization mechanism (sudo) does not allow you to run this program. Contact the system administrator.
[10:41] <lstarnes> shaullx: I think it's a fork of xmms
[10:41] <ikonia> aim: open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update" see what it says
[10:41] <shaullx> i use vlc for video
[10:41] <shaullx> i dont like it for music
[10:41] <aim> ikonia: hamish is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[10:41] <aim> ikonia: that's me btw.
[10:42] <shaullx> xmms2 is not gui ><
[10:42] <dragon_> !sudo | aim
[10:42] <ikonia> aim: ok - so there is a problem, you have created a user called hamish that is not in the admin group
[10:42] <v3trae> aim: you have to put yourself into the sudoers file if you haven't already.
[10:42] <ikonia> v3trae: he needs to be in the admin group
[10:42] <aim> ikonia: I only have one user.
[10:42] <ikonia> aim: then you have taken yourself out of the admin group
[10:42] <indus> anyone here knows how to get the old notification back?
[10:43] <aim> ikonia: and that is, I've used it to configure everything.
[10:43] <pierre3400> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1205299 anyone able to help me out here?
[10:43] <aim> ikonia: How have I done that, can I put myself back in?
[10:43] <ikonia> aim: on a terminal please type "id" and show me the output
[10:43] <myself> yeah put me back in aim
[10:43] <myself> put me in real good, just be gentle
[10:43] <aim> ikonia: uid=1000(hamish) gid=1000(hamish) groups=29(audio),1000(hamish)
[10:43] <myself> well be as rough as you want actually
[10:43] <ikonia> aim: you're missing a lot of groups
[10:44] <ikonia> aim: you'll need to boot into "recovery" mode and do a "usermod -G admin hamish"
[10:44] <aim> ikonia:  apparently, I was fiddling with the terminal before... should teach me a lesson lol :P
[10:44] <aim> ikonia: What do I need to input?
[10:44] <ikonia> aim: you'll need to boot into "recovery" mode and do a "usermod -G admin hamish"
[10:44] <aim> ikonia: is that all?
[10:45] <aim> ikonia: I can then reboot?
[10:45] <v3trae> ikonia: excuse me if i'm wrong but he couldn't he just SU and run that command?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[10:45] <ikonia> aim: that's it
[10:45] <v3trae> ikonia: assuming he has set a root password at some point?
[10:45] <ikonia> v3trae: the root user has no password, if he has set a password then sure
[10:45] <aim> ikonia: I have a root password.
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> aim: its less secure if you have one
[10:45] <ikonia> aim: then su -
[10:45] <v3trae> aim: if you have a root password then just su and run the command ikonia gave you
[10:46] <aim> ikonia: atleast I'm pretty sure I do
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> if you havent, you can use   sudo -i
[10:46] <aim> ikonia: Gave me invalid option -G
[10:46] <jeremy1> quick question,,, how do i find where my kernel headers are installed?
[10:47] <ikonia> aim: usermod -G admin
[10:47] <JoeM> last question for the night.. I hope.  How do I get a list of all installed packages off synaptic?
[10:47] <linduxed> http://xkcd.com/ <--- Today's one is great
[10:47] <linduxed> sorry wrong channel
[10:47] <aim> ikonia: again gave me invalid option -G....
[10:47] <indus> anyone here knows how to get the old notification back?
[10:47] <indus> anyone here knows how to get the old notification back?
[10:48] <xbmc666> how can i know which id a disk has, like /dev/sdb2 or similar?
[10:48] <v3trae> ikonia: lawl
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> JoeM: dpkg -l | less
[10:48] <iGama> indus, google for disable notify-osd
[10:48] <ikonia> aim: show me the command youre using
[10:48] <indus> iGama: that fix doesnt work for me
[10:48] <ActionParsnip1> jeremy1: sudo find / -name linux | grep kern
[10:48] <mathematician> I have problem displaying the Russian files names ?
[10:49] <aim> ikonia: su usermod -G admin
[10:49] <ikonia> aim: no  !
[10:49] <JoeM> actionparsnip1 ugly, but that works.  Thanks
[10:49] <xbmc666> how can i know which id a disk has, like /dev/sdb2 or similar?
[10:49] <ikonia> aim: "su -" will make you root, then do usermod -G admin hamish
[10:49] <aim> ikonia: Ah I see, sorry for idiodicy.
[10:50] <v3trae> aim: we all start somewhere
[10:50] <aim> ikonia: Ah yeah no root pw.
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> JoeM: not really ugly, its cli....
[10:50] <aim> ikonia:  well I assume authentication failure means not root PW.
[10:50] <v3trae> aim: then do the recovery mode like ikonia suggested
[10:50] <[1]matt> are there any e-mail clients for ubunt that can import Pegusus mail folders?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip1> JoeM: dpkg -l > ~/output.txt; gedit ~/output.txt if you like
[10:50] <JoeM> actionparsnip1 I mean the list it spits out is ugly, cli or gu doesn't bother me
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> JoeM: dpkg -l is really useful as you can grep and awk the output :)
[10:51] <aim> Ok, brb...
[10:51] <xbmc666> can anyone tell me?
[10:51] <papul> how do create a trash icon in my desktop?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> !uid | xbmc666
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> !blkid | xbmc666
[10:51] <JoeM> actionparsnip1 I'm building a new system and doing a clean install of 9.04 64b (old one is 8.10 32b) so just needed a list so I know what to go back and reinstall
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> !clone | JoeM
[10:52] <ActionParsnip1> JoeM: you shouldv'e said ;)
[10:52] <JoeM> before I shut the other computer down and start installing my new system... anyone know if there are any worthwhile tweaks when using a SSD for OS drive?
[10:53] <RaceCondition> why aren't databases and configuration migrated to 8.4 when upgrading from PostgreSQL 8.3?
[10:53] <JoeM> actionparsnip1 even better... that'll work even when goign 32b to 64b?
[10:53] <RaceCondition> I thought Ubuntu does this automatically
[10:53] <gangil> !automate
[10:54] <amdfanboy> Can anybody explain why AMD processor have low L2 cache compare to Intel Core 2 Duo ?
[10:54] <v3trae> amdfanboy: because intels are superior =P
[10:55] <aim> ikonia: Thanks, that worked.
[10:56] <v3trae> aim: NOW do etherape =)
[10:56] <aim> ikonia: I can use sudo and synaptics now
[10:56] <aim> v3trae: Yeah will do :P
[10:57] <amdfanboy> http://techreport.com/articles.x/12091
[10:57] <aim> v3trae: Do I want to run as root?
[10:58] <v3trae> aim: it's been a while, i usually do
[10:58] <v3trae> aim: but i always do it through a livecd, so not very concerned about security
[10:58] <Slart> papul: you can either use desklets or run "gconf-editor" from a command line and go to "Apps, Nautilus, Desktop" and put a checkmark in the box for "trash_icon_visible"
[10:58] <aim> I guess only for a few min I should be sweet.
[10:59] <aim> ok it's runnig now
[10:59] <v3trae> aim: k, watch your ping, and watch for big spikes in etherape
[10:59] <v3trae> if you see one, figure out where they're going from/to, then you can figure out if another user is pumping a lot of traffic
[11:01] <aim> v3trae, Oh this is cool... it gives the entire networks information...
[11:01] <v3trae> aim: yessir, i like it
[11:01] <aim> This could be quite useful in the flat, figuring out who the bandwidth whores are, can it be logged?
[11:01] <aim> ok brbr
[11:01] <v3trae> aim: not sure
[11:03] <mathematician> how can I change the mp3 id3 tag to unicode ?
[11:04] <v3trae> im outta here, gn
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> info mp3info-gtk
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !info mp3info-gtk
[11:05] <deany> anyone else getting transparent guests in vbox 3?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !info easytag
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> deany: i'd get support in #vbox
[11:08] <prathamesh> hi i am using pidgin messenger in ultimate ubuntu for internet chatting. when i add an irc account & connect it uptil it works fine. but when i clicked & try to open that channel my pidgin crash.
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate | prathamesh
[11:09] <gangil> !etherape
[11:09] <prathamesh> ubottu: but this same thing happend with ubuntu when i was using it
[11:09] <[thirdwheel]> !bridge
[11:10] <[thirdwheel]> !search
[11:10] <[thirdwheel]> !search bridge
[11:10] <[thirdwheel]> !search br0
[11:10] <Guest24244> Hi, guys. I hope I'm in the right channel. Will Jaunty (9.04) ever have Firefox 3.5, or will that be in 9.10?
[11:10] <vigo> !FF3.5
[11:10] <gangil> !ff35
[11:11] <gangil> I love doin that :D
[11:11] <vigo> Is fun
[11:11] <Guest24244> Okay, thanks for the info. I was wondering what was taking so long.
[11:11] <gangil> install opera till then it's much better..
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> Guest24244: you've managed with the version you curently have for a while. The new one will come soon.
[11:12] <vigo> I like IceCat
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> gangil: +1
[11:12] <Guest24244> FF3.5 actually has a couple of bugs on the websites I commonly use
[11:12] <Guest24244> I'm an IRC noob. How do I change my nickname?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !nick
[11:13] <awk> hrm.... strange problem after edit /etc/network/interfaces I add iface eth2 inet static && address 192.168.21.2 && netmask 255.255.255.0 && gateway 192.168.21.1   issue is when I restart  networking and check ifconfig that eth2 device is not coming up... even after a reboot.. if I set eth2 to dhcp it picks up a dhcp ip?
[11:13] <richardcavell> thanks, actionparsnip
[11:13] <linux> hi
[11:14] <moncky> !ask | linux
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> awk: try: auto eth2 just above it
[11:14] <richardcavell> I use mail.com webmail as my primary email. The text entry box is wider than the screen on FF3.5
[11:15] <awk> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[11:15] <richardcavell> And no scrollbar appears at the bottom so it's impossible to display some of the text.
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> awk: it will then come up automagically
[11:15] <awk> ActionParsnip: blah, works... sorry ...
[11:15] <richardcavell> It's a bug because when typing an email, I can type text into areas that cannot be displayed. In fact I don't have any other option
[11:15] <linux> i wanna work with gtk i've installed it and did the make what do i need to do to get it running
[11:15] <ruslanr> richardcavell: I see
[11:15] <richardcavell> FF3.0.11 doesn't have any issue
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> awk: makes system boot faster too as dhcp doesnt need to take place
[11:16] <vigo> Thunderbird works fine for me.
[11:16] <gangil> !opera
[11:16] <richardcavell> I want to keep all my email in the cloud because I trust an external provider more than my internal hard disk
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: good call, they will have better backups too ;)
[11:17] <weedar> GNOME doesn't starte gnome-panel at login (I disabled it while trying out AWN..), but no I have no panel, dock (AWN,gnome-do,..) or any running program when I start Gnome - how can I start a program or at least spawn an xterm every time Gnome starts?
[11:17] <Krenari> i want to install g++ and one recomanded ide. for c++
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !startup
[11:18] <richardcavell> I keep all my really important emails at hotmail. Say what you like about Microsoft but I know that if those emails are ever lost, we're probably in a nuclear holocaust
[11:18] <Krenari> can anyone recommand me something
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Krenari: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> !ide
[11:18] <richardcavell> Krenari, you're asking for an IDE to do some C++ coding, right?
[11:18] <Krenari> yeah
[11:18] <Krenari> and a compiler
[11:19] <Krenari> im very new in ubuntu :0
[11:19] <vigo> VIM!
[11:19] <richardcavell> Krenari, I've heard good things about eclipse
[11:19] <Krenari> yeah i like eclips too
[11:19] <Krenari> i have used in windows
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Krenari: build-essential will give you a c/c++ compiler + common libs
[11:19] <richardcavell> I can't imagine writing a proper program in gedit. Apple apparently built Safari using XCode
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: use nano then :)
[11:20] <richardcavell> I need to have tooltips and class wizards and a dialog editor just to get Hello, World
[11:20] <Krenari> ActionParsnip: im installing
[11:20] <Krenari> can u tell me how ot install eclipse
[11:20] <linux> i wanna work with gtk i've installed it and did the make what do i need to do to get it running?
[11:20] <richardcavell> I like Visual C++. It makes programming easier.
[11:20] <vigo> richardcavell: Tried Ruby?
[11:21] <richardcavell> No, vigo
[11:21] <vigo> Ruby is a solid rock stomper
[11:21] <richardcavell> Okay. Is it a frontend for GNU CC?
[11:22] <_kl_> list
[11:22] <Krenari> richardcavell: i dont want microsoft products here :D
[11:22] <richardcavell> Years ago I did some coding on Visual C++, and it made testing and debugging so much faster
[11:22] <weedar> ActionParsnip: Without gnome-panel I don't have a System-button to click - I login to a completely empty screen, all I see is the background image and the mouse pointer
[11:22] <richardcavell> I was doing server/client stuff, and I needed to compile the client and transport it to another computer and run it and debug it, over and over again
[11:22] <vigo> Is rather independent, but in the same sense it is iteroperational with Mic/Appl or even Basic
[11:23] <richardcavell> would have driven me nuts doing that with nano and gcc from the command line
[11:23] <vigo> Look at ruby.org
[11:23] <richardcavell> okay, vigo, I'll take a look at it
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> weedar: press alt+f2 and type: gnome-panel
[11:23] <richardcavell> I want to stay with gcc because I want to build OS X Apps, and Apple have modified GCC to do Universal binaries
[11:23] <MikeChelen> !ff3.5
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> weedar: theres these too: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=840105
[11:24] <vigo> richardcavell: On the site is a "hello world" program in browser in 15 seconds.
[11:24] <weedar> ActionParsnip: alt+f2 yields no response
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> weedar: bizzarre, thats common to all de's even fluxbox and lxde
[11:24] <Theeb__> hi, why is firefox slow when i run flash videos, but not on seamonkey? i have flash installed from adobe website
[11:25] <richardcavell> Theeb, are you using the 64-bit FF/Flash?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Theeb__: seamonkey is lighter, do you have the same addons in both?
[11:25] <weedar> I've even tried moving to a shell (alt + ctrl + 1) and set the DISPLAY environment variable to :0 and then running GUI apps...Firefox and some others work, but unfortunately not gnome-panel, gnome-terminal and anything else useful I could think of :/
[11:25] <richardcavell> The 64-bit Flash isn't real good IMHO
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: works awesome here
[11:25] <Theeb__> ActionParsnip, I didnt put anything on them, so no
[11:25] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip, I have trouble with youtube
[11:25] <weedar> ActionParsnip: That link to the forums is probably my best bet, thanks!
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: i dont use the repo one as its never worked in 64bit for me
[11:26] <richardcavell> mind you, it is labelled as 'alpha' release, so I suppose I shouldn't complain
[11:27] <richardcavell> ActionParsnip, until you said that I didn't know there was a repo one!
[11:27] <sleepy_cat> _nick
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> !info flash-installer
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> !info adobe-installer
[11:28] <richardcavell> there is flashplugin-installer
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> something like that
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> apt-cache search flash | grep install
[11:28] <Theeb__> when will they update the seamonkey to the latest version, i kinda have no idea how to install the update :p
[11:28] <vigo> Gnash sorta works.
[11:28] <richardcavell> all that does is download the Adobe add-on
[11:28] <ubuntistas> when firefox is gone be updated by the canonical staff?
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> Theeb__: depends how you installed it
[11:28] <richardcavell> !flashplugin-installer
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: its !info <package>
[11:29] <Theeb__> ActionParsnip, by the add/remove
[11:29] <vigo> Theeb_: Look at Pshycocats or the Forums, that is covered very well and step by step.
[11:29] <richardcavell> !info flashplugin-installer
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> Theeb__: then it will come down when te new version is added to one of your repos
[11:29] <richardcavell> yeah, all it does is download the Adobe one
[11:30] <richardcavell> I doubt that anyone could improve on the Adobe one
[11:30] <awesomez> firefox is getting worse & worse :(
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> richardcavell: not te 64bit ine as far as ive seen. it uses a wrapper
[11:30] <Theeb__> ActionParsnip, hehe k, but it is taking too long ;P
[11:30] <richardcavell> that might be preferable until they get the 64-bit one working right. Are you using the wrapper, Parsnip?
[11:31] <Krenari> ActionParsnip: thank you ! g++ is working fine !
[11:31] <ubuntistas> when firefox is gone be updated by the canonical staff?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> Theeb__: its open source / gpl. They could stop development and you can complain all you want but they have no contracts or oblifation to do anything
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !ff3.5 | ubuntistas
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Krenari: no worries duder
[11:33] <Theeb__> ActionParsnip, lol i wasnt complaining man
[11:33] <prathamesh> for ultimate ubuntu is there other channel
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> Theeb__: no worries dude :D. Just how it is
[11:34] <indus> anyone here knows how to get the old notification back?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: #ubuntu-offtopic is my guess
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: why not install an official release
[11:34] <prathamesh> ActionParsnip: i dont want offtopic
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: then you will be supported in the official room?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: well its not here, thats for sure
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: whats different in ultimate to a regular ubuntu install?
[11:36] <prathamesh> ActionParsnip: i just asked
[11:38] <indus> prathamesh: ultimate just comes preinstalled with all the stuff you would generally install in regular ubuntu
[11:38] <prathamesh> i am using pidgin for internet chat messenger for chatting. when i tried ti open any irc channel in pidgin. my pidgin get crashed.
[11:39] <vigo> !irc
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: its a derivative of and comes with lots of extra fluff but will be packaged differently to ubuntu so is hard to support
[11:39] <indus> prathamesh: dont use pidgin for irc, xchat is the preferred tool for irc
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: all i can suggest is you close pidgin fully and rename ~/.purple
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> indus: why is xchat "preffered"
[11:39] <wapko> i like irssi, even in x
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> indus: i've used pidgin for irc since it was gaim
[11:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: cos it easier to configure for irc?
[11:40] <richardcavell> I'm using chatzilla. Is that a good choice?
[11:40] <prathamesh> currently i am using Konversation
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> indus: not really
[11:40] <Mobi> #ubuntu-de
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> indus: add an account, set irc then add server and screen name
[11:40] <indus> ActionParsnip: it doesnt even show you list of irc servers or channels
[11:41] <indus> ActionParsnip: sorry,but i cant figure it out, and since a lot of ppl here do use x chat, i said its preferred
[11:41] <vigo> Pidgin has been having problems lately, or so read. xchat, has a nice Gnome frontend/GUI
[11:41] <Simply_Lion> hi guys
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> indus: you can go to main window. tools -> room list
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> indus: then select the account you want te room list for
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: in the computer community, windows is more used. Is that "preffered" too
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: what are you talking about? add account irc, then what
[11:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: there is no server list at all
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> indus: if you add an account and connect
[11:42] <prathamesh> ActionParsnip: can u tell me what exactly to do. which file or folder hav to remane ~/.purple
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> indus: then in the main window click tools -> room list
[11:43] <richardcavell> I'm thinking of downloading xchat. Do you think I should?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: killall pidgin; mv ~/.purple ~/.purple_old
[11:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: i dont think you understand? how do i select a server ?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> indus: you type its name
[11:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: all it shows is irc.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: and who will give me the name?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> indus: you find the server you want to connect to
[11:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: from where?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> indus: the web
[11:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: xchat has that list, pidgin doesnt
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> indus: never said it didnt
[11:45] <indus> ActionParsnip: haha the web , so i hope you get the point now
[11:45] <richardcavell> I'm downloading xchat. 3 min 2 s remaining
[11:45] <indus> ActionParsnip: xchat makes it easier for you,
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> indus: no thats not te point. no irc  client is preffered is the point
[11:45] <ruadh>   /quit
[11:45] <indus> ActionParsnip: well, so now its back to that point then
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> indus: i'm not comparing functionlity. you are saying just because something is more used it is "preffered" which is preposterous
[11:46] <indus> ActionParsnip: whatever the case, pidgin is not preferred surely
[11:46] <vigo> !best
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> indus: it is to me
[11:46] <bazhang> indus, what is the issue
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> vigo: exactly
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> indus: i only use pidgin for all chats
[11:46] <bazhang> indus, you having trouble connecting to other servers or what
[11:47] <indus> people trying to argue about whats right and whats not, when all iam doing is helping someone
[11:47] <prathamesh> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:47] <Simply_Lion> can anyone tell me how protected is ubuntu on IRC, and secondly by starting a firewall how much protection does that give? or do i need to make personal adjustments?
[11:47] <vigo> And best-bot is FUN.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: indus is saying xchat is "the preffered irc client" which is a ridiculous statement
[11:47] <bazhang> indus, please chat about best etc in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks
[11:47] <indus> i repeat again to the ops and to others . dont force your point down my throat
[11:47] <indus> ActionParsnip: no offence
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: get a proper install of ubuntu, you will be supported.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> indus: i'm not i'm just saying what you are saying is false.
[11:48] <prathamesh> ActionParsnip: i am using ultimate ubuntu
[11:48] <awk> hrm, what is similar to rpm -qa ? to verify package information for installed packages?
[11:48] <bazhang> prathamesh, that is not supported here
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: its not an official relese so isnt supported in the official channel
[11:48] <indus> ActionParsnip: and what you are saying is not true either
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> awk: dpkg -l | less
[11:49] <indus> so we are even
[11:49] <bazhang> indus, please stop
[11:49] <awk> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:49] <prathamesh> ActionParsnip: but now its working completly fine
[11:49] <vigo> awk: dkpg (then some -switch)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> prathamesh: its still not supported here
[11:49] <indus> bazhang: ask parsnip to stop
[11:49] <elky> indus, the 'preferred' irc client is the one in the default installation.
[11:49] <awk> I was using apt-cache showpkg package but.... that was not for installed..
[11:49] <vigo> whoops, dpkg
[11:49] <indus> elky: isnt it xchat then
[11:49] <prathamesh> ActionParsnip: ohk fine
[11:49] <elky> indus, no.
[11:49] <dbugger> Hi guys!
[11:50] <awk> dam :( was hoping this new ubuntu had php 5.3 included :(
[11:50] <dbugger> Can someone please tell me how can I get a thumbnail from a video from the command line?
[11:50] <awk> any idea when php 5.3 will be released to ubuntu
[11:50] <shift_> Hello, does anyone have experience with using an external monitor on a laptop?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> awk: apt-cache search php | less
[11:50] <richardcavell_> Okay, guys, I'm on xchat now
[11:51] <indus> so whats the preferred client for irc then ??
[11:51] <awk> ActionParsnip: its only php 5.2.6
[11:51] <dbugger> indus, I use xchat, but I dont like any. Im developing my own :D
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> indus: any you prefer, notice how I had stopped and you started up again
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> awk: then you need a repo with the later version on, or compile
[11:51] <indus> seriously, is there anything better?
[11:51] <bricks-> i can't browse my pictures on facebook anymore, is anyone experiencing the same problem?
[11:52] <richardcavell_> indus, I don't necessarily prefer xchat to chatzilla
[11:52] <rikki_max> indus: have u used kvirc?
[11:52] <vigo> irrsi
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> indus: imho no
[11:52] <iMatter> Is there a Mumbles in Ubuntu Repos?
[11:52] <vigo> Weechat
[11:52] <vigo> AIM
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> indus: but i use about 6 other protocols so it makes sense to use the irc functionality rather than have 2 apps
[11:52] <vigo> I can go on forever, there is no BEST.
[11:53] <indus> ActionParsnip: yes i too prefer pidgin, but i had to waste quite a bit of time googling for the undernet server name
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> indus: i'm sure you had to "google" a bit as well to get your pc setup after the install
[11:53] <indus> ActionParsnip: so i was forced to go to xchat ,which is great btw, but i will try chatzilla too
[11:53] <rikki_max> indus: have u tried kvirc?
[11:54] <indus> ActionParsnip: true, so this saves time doesnt it
[11:54] <indus> rikki_max: no not yet
[11:54] <bricks-> lol you all have totally passed me by
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> indus: same process, same mentality
[11:54] <rikki_max> indus: it is the better of the ones i have tried if u r used to msl scripting
[11:54] <prathamesh> when i tried to open home folder then it directly onening into the kaffine palyer
[11:54] <indus> ActionParsnip: leave it.
[11:54] <bazhang> prathamesh, in ultimate?
[11:55] <prathamesh> nope
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> indus: i did, you started it p again. i was talking to prathamesh
[11:55] <prathamesh> in ubuntu
[11:55] <prathamesh> my friend getting this problem
[11:55] <bazhang> prathamesh, thought you just said you were using ultimate
[11:55] <prathamesh> but my friend using ubuntu
[11:55] <richardcavell_> in xchat, how do I turn off messages that say that someone has entered/left?
[11:56] <bazhang> prathamesh, go to ultimate support for help with "ultimate"
[11:56] <bazhang> richardcavell_, right click channel name
[11:56] <prathamesh> bazhang: my friend getting this problem
[11:56] <prathamesh> bazhang: he is using ubuntu 9.04
[11:56] <bazhang> prathamesh, we need to ask your friend some questions
[11:56] <richardcavell_> aha! Thanks, bazhang. I knew it had to be easy.
[11:56] <prathamesh> bazhang: what question
[11:57] <bazhang> prathamesh, to troubleshoot his Ubuntu
[11:57] <prathamesh> bazhang: so ask me na i will ask it to him
[11:57] <prathamesh> bazhang: i just want solution
[11:58] <indus> ActionParsnip: pm
[11:58] <bazhang> prathamesh, easier to talk with your friend directly.
[11:59] <wapko> dbugger: you can use mplayer : mplayer -vo jpeg -frames 1 movie.avi
[11:59] <pinoyskull> hi, anybody has experience with using Huawei E220?
[11:59] <prathamesh> can anybody help me what to do. my friend using ubuntu 9.04 from last few days he getting some problem while opening home folder. when he tried to open his home folder then the caffine player is open
[11:59] <wapko> dbugger: that gives you the first frame, if you want later frames specify the starttime with -ss option. replace jpeg with png if you want png
[12:00] <temporarytao> hi, looking for help on using airdump-ng
[12:00] <bazhang> prathamesh, this is Kubuntu then?
[12:00] <dbugger> ty wapko!
[12:00] <bazhang> temporarytao, #aircrack
[12:00] <temporarytao> cool, thanks
[12:00] <pinoyskull> prathamesh, somebody mess up that shortcut then
[12:00] <vigo> prathamesh: Has the freind tried a Recovery thing or a dpkg fix?
[12:00] <prathamesh> bazhang: bullshit just get lost
[12:01] <prathamesh> pinoyskull: so what hav to exactly do
[12:01] <bazhang> prathamesh, watch the language
[12:01] <temporarytao> another thing. i have an existing ubuntu 9.04 setup and i want to lighten it up (in the direction of crunchbang)
[12:01] <temporarytao> suggestions?
[12:01] <prathamesh> bazhang: watch ur answers
[12:01] <bazhang> temporarytao, install openbox
[12:01] <iMatter> night everyone..
[12:01] <n0gearII> nomachinr doesnt work with xfce?
[12:01] <wapko> dbugger: for scaling it you might want to play with the -vf scale option
[12:01] <pinoyskull> prathamesh, how does he access his homefolder?
[12:01] <temporarytao> bazhang, what's a good file manager to go with openbox?
[12:02] <dbugger> noted down! thanks ;)
[12:02] <dbugger> i'll do tuning later :)
[12:02] <bazhang> temporarytao, that is the one used with crunchbang
[12:02] <pinoyskull> prathamesh, how does he access his homefolder?
[12:02] <bazhang> temporarytao, better still would be lxde or the like
[12:03] <shift_> how do I allow a user to startx?
[12:03] <prathamesh> pinoyskull: he just click on places & then click on home
[12:03] <shift_> (to avoid using root)
[12:03] <vigo> !sudo
[12:03] <bazhang> shift_, you want to login using user pass (sudo)
[12:04] <th0r> shift_: normal users should already have access to startx
[12:04] <shift_> th0r, X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[12:04] <temporarytao> i got the openbox part. that's the window manager, right?
[12:04] <temporarytao> what about the file manager? for one thing, i'd like something with a trash box at least. :)
[12:04] <th0r> shift_: then something has gone amiss, I am running jaunty and the default for startx is 755
[12:04] <temporarytao> bazhang: lxde is the file manager? or is that the window manager?
[12:04] <prathamesh> pinoyskull: hey what to do
[12:05] <bazhang> temporarytao, not up on openbox tbh, know more about lxde (metapackage that pulls in other stuff as well)
[12:05] <shift_> th0r, I think the user needs to be in some group or something
[12:05] <prathamesh> pinoyskull: is there any solution on it
[12:05] <th0r> shift_: nope....those permissions give execute to the world
[12:05] <temporarytao> hmmm...googling lxde
[12:05] <bazhang> temporarytao, its in the repos
[12:05] <shift_> th0r, I can execute the file fine... it's just that it refuses to run X, giving the error message I pasted below.
[12:05] <stefhand> bonjour
[12:06] <bazhang> !info lxde | temporarytao
[12:06] <stefhand> qq1 peut m'aider?
[12:06] <stefhand> a l'aide !
[12:06] <bazhang> stefhand, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[12:06] <stefhand> plz
[12:06] <deveah> I was here before, right?
[12:06] <temporarytao> bazhang: so if i use that, i can just choose it from the login screen?
[12:06] <bazhang> temporarytao, correct
[12:06] <th0r> shift_: odd. I haven't done it in years, but it should be ok to set up the system to boot to the login prompt and not run X unless requested by the user. I used to run my servers that way
[12:07] <shift_> th0r, yeah, that's the idea here... people seem to be suggesting sudo, but I would much rather avoid it.
[12:08] <deveah> I came back with fresh errors! :D
[12:08] <th0r> shift_: I would want to avoid that also. Check further into the issue as you should be able to do what you want
[12:08] <vise> Hi, is xmms player available form Gnome, Ubuntu Intrepid? I can't find a package.. There is something called xmm2 client or something.. But it doesnt seem to be the player... Any ideas?
[12:08] <deveah> "udevadm trigger is not permitted while udev is unconfigured."
[12:08] <vise> *for
[12:08] <bazhang> vise, replaced with audacious
[12:08] <vise> bazhang, Ew!.. Il search that.. thanks
[12:09] <th0r> shift_: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2200
[12:10] <shift_> th0r, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[12:10] <shift_> th0r, think it will work now.
[12:10] <th0r> shift_: according to that link (an old thread) it might be a path issue
[12:10] <tunx> hello. when i try to boot hd(0,6), i got error 15 file not found.
[12:11] <shift_> th0r, all fixed. thanks.
[12:11] <psypointer> hi
[12:11] <deveah> dudes, what does udevadm do?
[12:11] <psypointer> is there any good tutorial for setting up a vpn server / client? i want to route my traffic over my root server..
[12:11] <psypointer> s/over/through/g
[12:11] <shift_> th0r, just had to run the command and select 'anybody' as the user.
[12:12] <ziroday> psypointer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[12:12] <th0r> shift_: thanks...have added that to my helpfiles
[12:12] <^Alita> hi to all
[12:12] <shift_> th0r, your help files? O_o
[12:12] <vise> there is no 'all' here
[12:13] <th0r> shift_: I have an entire directory of little four line notes on how to fix things
[12:13] <R_Dday> anyone know Hebrew fonts for Linux ?
[12:13] <^Alita> can i know wich is the process that is using the HD so hard?
[12:13] <th0r> shift_: 219 items including subdirectories
[12:13] <^Alita> top can't help me, system moniton neither
[12:14] <vise> ^Alita, How much RAM do you have?
[12:14] <gidna> Hi
[12:14] <gidna> I want to coppy all files in a directory to another no the directory itself
[12:14] <shift_> th0r, nice
[12:14] <gidna> How can I do it?
[12:14] <^Alita> 128 mb :( you think it's the swap?
[12:14] <psypointer> ziroday: thank you!
[12:14] <michael__> hi how to resize partition?
[12:15] <ziroday> psypointer: have fun
[12:15] <vise> ^Alita, Very much... Normal usage of RAM on my pc is 500 MB... 1GB is required.. unless you use the text mode.. :)
[12:15] <shift_> gidna, cp source/* dest/, or better yet rsync source/ dest/ -av .... that should work
[12:15] <vigo> micheal__: gparted or some such thing
[12:15] <vigo> !gparted
[12:15] <^Alita> i'm using xfce on xubuntu and only firefox and xchat
[12:16] <michael__> i unmount the drive and then how do i resize it?
[12:16] <vise> ^Alita, Try not using firefox for some time and see if it helps.. If it does, we will have to tweak firefox..
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> ^Alita: you could run swiftfox or kazenchaze for a lighter gecko based browser
[12:16] <vigo> micheal__: That might be an fdisk thing
[12:17] <vigo> micheal__: What file system is the drive using?
[12:17] <shift_> gidna, I may be wrong but I think if you use the directory itself, then it will copy the directory, but if you add / at the end of it, it will copy what's in the directory.. not sure though
[12:17] <temporarytao> michael__: you need gparted to resize a partition
[12:17] <gidna> ok thank you
[12:17] <gidna> i did it
[12:17] <gidna> I should put /*
[12:17] <th0r> ^Alita: with only 128MB it is almost certainly swap
[12:18] <^Alita> uhm, i will one of this. anyway, there is a way to know who is using the hd, like top for cpu and memory?
[12:18] <nixiepixel> I have an ubuntu studio machine where the system load average is up over 15 right now, and is crashing every time I try to do anything with it, even though no processes are taking up a large percentage of CPU or memory. But even terminal commands don't get run with a system load this high. What can I do to resolve this?
[12:19] <michael__> please see screenshot http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9907/screenshotsly.png
[12:19] <deveah> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/358654 this is exactly my problem
[12:19] <ActionParsnip1> ^Alita: you can use du to find out the size of folders and files
[12:20] <gidna> Hi
[12:20] <michael__> i just unmount sda5 i want to resize sda5 to smaller size and then increase the size of sda6, how do i do it?
[12:20] <CooosmiChaos> lol cd is busy, all windows are closed, howto unmount?
[12:20] <CooosmiChaos> kill nautilus once?
[12:20] <vise> ActionParsnip1, ^Alita requires processes doing IO at a given time (disk IO)
[12:20] <CooosmiChaos> it was a damaged cd backed via mondorestore
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> vise: oic
[12:21] <gidna> How can I play videos using /win32 codecs with totem... I can with mplayer but I would with totem
[12:21] <^Alita> ActionParsnip1, yes, vise is righ
[12:21] <temporarytao> michael__: you want to make sda5 bigger, ryes?
[12:21] <michael__> no
[12:21] <vise> And apparently I too am curious as to what software can be used to view IO instead of CPU like top...
[12:21] <michael__> make sda5 smaller
[12:21] <temporarytao> sorry, missed your last msg
[12:21] <michael__> make sda6 bigger
[12:21] <shift_> How do I tell X which monitor to use, if I have VGA and the LVDS, what do I need to add to Xorg to only use one or the other?
[12:22] <^Alita> vise, yes, maybe very useful
[12:22] <gidna> How can I do that? it's a big matter
[12:23] <temporarytao> where are you running your gparted from? i suggest running from a live cd or usb
[12:24] <michael__> how to change screen resolution in ubuntu 9.04?
[12:24] <wers> where can i delete the config files for ssh networks on nautilus? i want a fresh start
[12:24] <Myrtti> sharperguy2: grandr can do that
[12:25] <os11> how to change the screen resolution in ubuntu 9.04?
[12:25] <awk> hrm, anyone use freednd through afraid?
[12:25] <awk> seems their ns's are down?
[12:25] <shift_> ok, nvrm my question... found how to do it using xrandr
[12:25] <vise> osll, System->Preferences->Screen Resolution
[12:25] <ianyue> @os11 you can find it in prefences
[12:26] <alteregoa> i eat a banana and rama
[12:26] <bazhang> !ot > alteregoa
[12:26] <alteregoa> !ot >alteregoa
[12:27] <alteregoa> ok i agree
[12:27] <vise> bazhang, What was that private msg? Im curios.. :)
[12:27] <vise> *curious
[12:27] <bazhang> vise /msg ubottu ot
[12:28] <adhel> loha?
[12:28] <d0b3> join nsfw
[12:28] <vise> bazhang, Oh! I thought its got swear words.. .lol
[12:28] <adhel> lagai rame ya?
[12:29] <bazhang> adhel, English please
[12:29] <adhel> yoi
[12:32] <prathamesh_> yahoo messenger not wokking in pidgin. i created my yahoo account in pidgin but its not connecting
[12:32] <bazhang> !yahoo > prathamesh_
[12:32] <bazhang> prathamesh_, also check #pidgin
[12:33] <blend> #linuxac
[12:35] <deveah> can somebody help me with a little thing?
[12:35] <deveah> pm me please if you can
[12:35] <Dr_willis> ask the question and see...
[12:35] <Dr_willis> i dont do pm's
[12:35] <deveah> okay then
[12:35] <deveah> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/358654
[12:35] <deveah> how do I fix the bug?
[12:35] <deveah> quick, if possible
[12:35] <Dr_willis> care to summarize the problem?
[12:36] <deveah> read that page please
[12:36] <Dr_willis> and if i dont have a browser?
[12:36] <Dr_willis> :) not everyone has X going
[12:36] <_Kuba> hi
[12:36] <deveah> okay then
[12:37] <wapko> Dr_willis: dont need x to browse :P
[12:38] <_Kuba> In Jaunty, my notifies (libnotify) don't go to "queue", ie. only one is seen at the moment, is it ok?
[12:39] <Dr_willis> wapko:  i do to click on that url. :)
[12:39] <wers> i'm trying to connect to my ipod touch by running "ipod-touch-mount" but I get "ssh: connect to host ipod port 22: No route to host" any idea why? :)
[12:39] <deveah> can you read pms, Dr_willis?
[12:39] <_Kuba> wers: is it JB?
[12:39] <Dr_willis> I have pm's set to ignore deveah
[12:39] <deveah> okay...
[12:39] <deveah> Ubuntu doesn't boot.
[12:39] <wers> _Kuba, yep. 2.2.1
[12:39] <Dr_willis> deveah:  from what i am reading at that url you gave - they give several possible fix's to try.
[12:39] <wers> 2nd gen
[12:40] <ninjafury> can anyone please help, google/forums haven't helped. I can't get my centrino nvidia laptop running jaunty 64 with latest nvidia (binary) drivers to auto suspend. Laptop screen just goes to black with a cursor and cpu still runs. can anyone PLEASE help?
[12:40] <deveah> yes, Dr_willis, but I'm a complete noob, can you tell me exactly what steps I need to do?
[12:40] <_Kuba> wers: wifi on? ;]
[12:40] <_Kuba> wers: openssh-server on ipod installed?
[12:40] <Dr_willis> type the commands they gave   'sudo dpkg-reconfigure WHATEVER'
[12:41] <deveah> dpkg-reconfigure udev ?
[12:41] <miloz> hi, I tried install windows under qemu with kqemu, but the speed was really slow. Any VM solution will be better than qemu?
[12:41] <wers> _Kuba, wifi on, openssh installed through cydia. i'll search the openssh-server package
[12:41] <deveah> "and then return mkinitramfs"
[12:41] <deveah>  ?
[12:41] <ninjafury> anyone?
[12:42] <fawcao> ?
[12:42]  * Dr_willis quotes the site (last entry) --->   so for me the fix was to run "aptitude reinstall udev" and then "update-initramfs -u -k all"
[12:42] <deveah> okay
[12:42] <_Kuba> Anyone could help with my notifies/buble connected problem?
[12:42] <deveah> thanks
[12:42] <_Kuba> :)
[12:42] <Dr_willis> that might fix it -- might not..
[12:42] <wers> _Kuba, i dont have the BSD subsystem package as "Installer" doesnt update anymore and it's not on cydia. could that be the problem?
[12:42] <anteaterNethack> hi.  i run karmic.  can i ask a question about gdm here, or is there a better channel+
[12:42] <anteaterNethack> ?
[12:42] <wers> _Kuba, what's your prob with the notify-osd?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  try #ubuntu+1
[12:43] <anteaterNethack> thanks.
[12:43] <deveah> Dr_willis - from that BusyBox shell?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  unless its a real generic gdm question
[12:43] <Dr_willis> deveah:  they seem to imply you boot a live cd, and chroot into the existing install
[12:43] <_Kuba> wers: only one bubble is seen at once
[12:43] <harjot> wers:  your nME IS ALLAN
[12:43] <^Alita> vise, i found someting: iotop
[12:44] <anteaterNethack> dr_willis: ok, the question is: the option for just using the users .xsession instead of a registered window manager does not exist anymore.  what to do?
[12:44]  * harjot knows everybodies names
[12:44] <deveah> gotta fix shit, bye
[12:44] <wers> _Kuba, oh. happens to me too...
[12:44] <harjot> anteaterNethack: your name is matthias
[12:44] <bazhang> deveah, watch the language
[12:44] <_Kuba> wers: Eg. here are 2 at one moment: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=notification-bubble.jpg
[12:45] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  make a .desktop file to use the .xsession perhaps..  (gdm gets all the sessions from a set of *.desktop files)
[12:45] <anteaterNethack> harjot, yes, it is.  why?
[12:45] <prathamesh_> how to setup cable net / sify broadband in ubuntu.
[12:45] <bazhang> harjot, take chat elsewhere please
[12:45] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  try 'locate gdm.desktop' to see where they are at.
[12:45] <harjot> i just felt like finding your ip adresses
[12:45] <_Kuba> wers: and there should be openssh-server package in cydia's repo
[12:45] <bazhang> !ot > harjot
[12:45] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  its possible thers some premade .desktop files for that.. but not in the proper place by default
[12:46] <anteaterNethack> dr_willis, ok.  i can do that.  i already looked into it, but was not sure if this was the preferred "default" root.
[12:46] <_Kuba> wers: have You tried ssh-ing into ipod manually?
[12:46] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  if you have access to an olkder release with the option, you could see what desktop  file/config its using.
[12:46] <anteaterNethack> ok.
[12:46] <wers> _Kuba, i seem to have it installed. do i really need bsd subsystem? How do i ssh manually?
[12:47] <cwok> kk
[12:48] <anteaterNethack> dr_willis, thanks.  i will look into #ubuntu+1, too.  and if they don't suggest anything else there, I'll go your route.
[12:48] <_Kuba> wers: I meant `ssh root@ipods-ip`
[12:48] <wers> _Kuba, i simply want to transfer music using ubuntu. i'm trying to run "ipod-touch-mount" just because it's in howtos. what's the most decent way you can suggest for me to transfer music?
[12:48]  * Miki2 wait for torchwood children of the earth
[12:48] <ikonia> Miki2: ?
[12:48] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  thats ius how GDM gets its sessions.. i doubt if its changed in the next release much. :)
[12:48] <Miki2> nothing...
[12:49] <_Kuba> wers: Dunno then
[12:49] <anteaterNethack> dr_willis, probably. :o)
[12:49] <_Kuba> wers: Try googling ubuntu wiki pages
[12:49] <richardcavell_> Does anyone know - is there a way to throttle the bandwidth that each of my Internet programs get?
[12:49] <_Kuba> wers: There is setup guide
[12:49] <bazhang> richardcavell_, trickle ?
[12:49] <bazhang> !info trickle | richardcavell_
[12:49] <_Kuba> wers: Maybe it helps you
[12:50] <ikonia> richardcavell_: you can do that through iptables and qos
[12:50] <wers> _Kuba, thanks man
[12:50] <bazhang> ah just one person
[12:50] <BladeNBrocade> certainly can
[12:50] <richardcavell_> bazhang, thanks for the info
[12:51] <hawken> Who wants to play werewolf in irc.bergnetworks.com/#werewolf
[12:51] <Dr_willis> anteaterNethack:  there might be some package that has the proper .desktop file somewhere..   i recall some example ones being in other placces
[12:51] <hawken> ?
[12:51] <hawken> We need two more.
[12:51] <ikonia> hawken: please don't spam/recruit in here
[12:51] <hawken> Meh
[12:51] <hawken> A quiqk game :(
[12:51] <bazhang> hawken, ask elsewhere please
[12:51] <_Kuba> Actually nothing works correctly with notify-osd
[12:51] <hawken> Well bye
[12:51] <salil__> Ahem.. Offtopic but, Im vise.. But the old nick has dropped the connection.. I had to reconnect but 'vise' still exists and i cant use it... Wth?
[12:51] <Dr_willis> take it to #debian harjot
[12:51] <Dr_willis> oops :)
[12:52] <Dr_willis> tab com,pletion as he leaves = fail
[12:52] <_Kuba> Tried notify-send -t 1 "a", and timeout is not taken into consideration
[12:52] <bazhang> salil__, if it is grouped you can ghost it, ask in #freenode
[12:52] <BladeNBrocade> lol
[12:52] <salil__> nvm.. Il just use this..
[12:52] <tarski> does anyone know an ubuntu equivalent to URL snooper for windows?
[12:52] <nooooooob> Hi I'm trying to insert the content of a file to a certain line number of the other file how do I do that?
[12:54] <csaba> I have ssh access to my computer, which means only console. How can I setup vnc access?
[12:55] <ianyue> tarski, do you find this https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2254?
[12:55] <BladeNBrocade> -X
[12:55] <richardcavell_> trickle is command line... anything with a GUI?
[12:55] <draciron> Greetings folks... Got a problem with upgrading 7.10 get 404 errs every time I try.
[12:55] <ziroday> !upgrade | draciron read the 7.10 -> 8.04 section
[12:56] <draciron> That is with an apt-get upgrade or from GUI package managers.
[12:56] <draciron> Can't move up a version, using a Dell laptop with propriatory drivers.
[12:56] <ziroday> !upgrade | draciron
[12:58] <draciron> I think I stated my question poorly. Apt-get and GUI package mgrs give me 404 errs when I try to do updates.
[12:58] <ikonia> draciron: look in /etc/apt/sources.list and check the URL's for your repos
[12:58] <BladeNBrocade> did your souces.lst change?
[12:58] <jeffs> hi, i'm new to ubuntu. can some one show me how to install packages that are downloaded from the internet?
[12:58] <salil__> Ok.. http://guichaz.free.fr/iotop/  is a program that will allow you to view the IO activity processwise.. Use python setup.py build and python setup.py install to install it... Then use iotop at shell... Nice application.. :)
[12:58] <draciron> I didn't change it.
[12:58] <ziroday> draciron: 7.10 is EOL, you need to use old-releases to upgrade. Read the factoid ubottu gave you earlier
[12:58] <os11> is it possible to resize a partition which ubuntu is running on that partition?
[12:58] <ikonia> !synaptic > jeffs
[12:58] <BladeNBrocade> why not iostat?
[12:59] <ikonia> jeffs: visit https://help.ubuntu.com and read the new users guide
[12:59] <draciron> I tried to install flash from adobe and not been able to install since.
[12:59] <ikonia> davenpro: you don't install it from adobe, you install it from the repo
[12:59] <draciron> ziroday I have propriatory drivers. Can't upgrade.
[12:59] <ziroday> draciron: why not?
[12:59] <ikonia> os11: not while it's running
[12:59] <BladeNBrocade> u can upgrade
[12:59] <BladeNBrocade> u just need to recompile after
[13:00] <draciron> Without drivers I'll have no vid, sound, etc.
[13:00] <BladeNBrocade> ..
[13:00] <roshan08> hello all, i am developing an application for blogging from desktop, i want to release a deb for ubuntu, how do i get the deb into ubuntu repo
[13:00] <salil__> BladeNBrocade, Since it doesnt tell you which process is doing the io...
[13:00] <richardcavell_> draciron, how unique is your laptop? Are you sure 9.04 won't work?
[13:00] <draciron> I don't have src for drivers. It's a Dell, came with Ubuntu pre-installed
[13:00] <ziroday> draciron: you can reinstall the drivers after the upgrade, or it will be done automatically for you during the upgrade.
[13:00] <Kartagis> is there a way to get firefox 3.5 in Turkish but from the repos?
[13:00] <ikonia> roshan08: read the "motu" process on wiki.ubuntu.com
[13:00] <draciron> Inspiron 1525
[13:00] <roshan08> ikonia, cool
[13:00] <richardcavell_> Kartagis, no, we can't even get the English version eyt
[13:00] <BladeNBrocade> there has to be some switch for that..
[13:00] <ziroday> Kartagis: no, as FF3.5 is not in the repo's
[13:00] <richardcavell_> yet
[13:00] <aim> Is there a linux chat program that runs on the MSN network?
[13:00] <Titan8990> roshan08, join #ubuntu-dev, most of the time it will sit in a 3rd party repo before it makes its way into the main
[13:01] <ziroday> aim: pidgin does
[13:01] <Titan8990> aim, pigdin
[13:01] <ikonia> aim: pidgin
[13:01] <roshan08> Titan8990, ok
[13:01] <iceroot> ziroday: ff3.5 is not in the repos?
[13:01] <DhavaL_> has anyone been able to Dual Boot 9.04?
[13:01] <ziroday> iceroot: correct
[13:01] <draciron> Tarball is easy enough with FF anyway.
[13:01] <ikonia> davenpro: many people
[13:01] <richardcavell_> Dhaval, I'm booting it
[13:01] <ikonia> DhavaL_: many people
[13:01] <richardcavell_> dual booting with OS X
[13:01] <iceroot> ziroday: look at apt-cache search firefox-3.5  it is in the repos
[13:01] <DhavaL_> Well, did you have to delete your existing partitions
[13:01] <ziroday> iceroot: not final.
[13:01] <draciron> I always use the tarballs so I don't have to wait for the archives.
[13:01] <DhavaL_> ?
[13:01] <salil__> BladeNBrocade, No... Manual page says it only reports for devices and NFS...
[13:01] <BladeNBrocade> i guess ..iostat is based more on the device so ur right
[13:01] <ikonia> DhavaL_: no, but that will dpend on your personal setup
[13:01] <ianyue> aim: emesene also is a good choice.
[13:02] <richardcavell_> Dhaval, you can resize the existing partitions
[13:02] <BladeNBrocade> is true
[13:02] <DhavaL_> I have 30 GB free space
[13:02] <Kartagis> richardcavell_, deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main it's here
[13:02] <richardcavell_> DhavaL, you can fit Ubuntu in there
[13:02] <DhavaL_> I tell it to install on the largest continuous partiton
[13:02] <iceroot> ziroday: so it will never be the final with jaunty?
[13:02] <draciron> So anyway I'm SOL on the 7.10 archives? They don't exist any more so that's why I'm getting the 404s?
[13:02] <ikonia> Kartagis: that is unsupported
[13:02] <Kartagis> it is?
[13:02] <ikonia> Kartagis: yes
[13:02] <DhavaL_> But in the pre instal screen it tells me that it is going to clear the partition tbale
[13:02] <laeg> could somebody point me in the right direct for setting up an openvpn on my ubuntu box to tunnel http/im traffic through for a windows box?
[13:02] <BladeNBrocade> draciron: likely yes
[13:03] <DhavaL_> So will I use all my other NTFS partitions?
[13:03] <aim> Does it? how?
[13:03] <aim> ikonia: How does pidgin do video?
[13:03] <aim> Ahhh, I forgot to mention video.
[13:03] <ikonia> aim: no
[13:03] <marissa> hi
[13:03] <draciron> Man that's pretty sad. No uprade path, no updates cept manual through tarballs.
[13:04] <richardcavell_> Kartagis, that's experimental
[13:04] <DhavaL_> Ikonia?
[13:04] <aim> ikonia: Is there a video chat one?
[13:04] <BladeNBrocade> is 7.10 supported?
[13:04] <DhavaL_> Will all my other partitions go *poof*?
[13:04] <BladeNBrocade> kopete does video i believe
[13:04] <marissa> i was wondering uno how do i get yahoo games or pogo games to play on my comp
[13:04] <draciron> It does?
[13:04] <richardcavell_> DhavaL, I don't see why you can't resize.
[13:04] <DhavaL_> Why would I want to resize
[13:04] <DhavaL_> I have 30 gb free space
[13:04] <BladeNBrocade> yes im sure,, which which clients im not
[13:04] <DhavaL_> I specify it to install on that free space
[13:04] <ikonia> DhavaL_: if you delete them - yes
[13:04] <draciron> Kapote doesn't do Yahoo vid, not unless I need to install something.
[13:04] <DhavaL_> why should it create a new partition table
[13:04] <richardcavell_> Dhaval, Okay, you want to put Ubuntu in there
[13:04] <BladeNBrocade> but kopete recognized my webcam fine on my dell laptop
[13:04] <DhavaL_> I do
[13:04] <richardcavell_> should work fine, DhavaL
[13:05] <ikonia> aim: not sure if amsn supports video
[13:05] <BladeNBrocade> draciron: i think u need to install something
[13:05] <DhavaL_> But it says that its going to create a new partition table.
[13:05] <aim> 'does kopete work on MSN network?
[13:05] <BladeNBrocade> yes
[13:05] <ziroday> aim: yep
[13:05] <richardcavell_> Are you using the Live CD installer? You should be able to do it graphically
[13:05] <DhavaL_> Yes I am using the LiveCD installer
[13:05] <DhavaL_> but i don't want a new partition table
[13:05] <richardcavell_> You can manually look at the start and end blocks of each partition before and after. They shouldn't change
[13:05] <aim> OK I'll try kopete, thanks guys
[13:05] <BladeNBrocade> np
[13:06] <salil__> DhavaL_, Have you selected guided partitioning or something?
[13:06] <richardcavell_> Well, it's going to edit the existing partition table
[13:06] <marissa> hello do you no how to install yahoo games on ubuntu or were to get games?
[13:06] <DhavaL_> Maybe yes.
[13:06] <DhavaL_> i just selected 'use largest continous free space'
[13:06] <DhavaL_> edit, not delete?
[13:06] <salil__> DhavaL_, Then it will change the partition table for creating swap IMHO..
[13:06] <DhavaL_> So I wil have all my other partitions,?
[13:07] <BladeNBrocade> yes
[13:07] <Foerdy> Hello there. Can anybody tell me how to look up an ip-adress in a windows-network? I got the computername of the client I want to look ab the ip-adress.
[13:07] <richardcavell_> DhavaL, you ought to be able to see where Ubuntu is going to go in. Can't you look at it manually?
[13:07] <salil__> DhavaL_, yes
[13:07] <ubuntunewbie> hi
[13:07] <BladeNBrocade> nslookup
[13:07] <DhavaL_> You sure salil?
[13:07] <DhavaL_> alright
[13:07] <BladeNBrocade> Foerdy: --> nslookup <host> <dnserver>
[13:07] <joaopinto> Foerdy, man nmblookup
[13:07] <DhavaL_> and what happens if I don't install the Boot Loader.
[13:07] <BladeNBrocade> man on windows?
[13:07] <Foerdy> thx!
[13:07] <richardcavell_> DhavaL, you want the boot loader somewhere
[13:07] <salil__> DhavaL_, you dont boot into ubuntu...
[13:07] <ubuntunewbie>  wanted to ask if I press ctrl+alt+backspace , how do I go back to login screen or gui ?
[13:07] <DhavaL_> I think it should show me 2 OS's when i press F8 and then i can choose right
[13:07] <DhavaL_> ?
[13:08] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it should reload automatically
[13:08] <salil__> DhavaL_, No.. The bootloader will change..
[13:08] <richardcavell_> do you have GRUB somewhere else on your system?
[13:08] <DhavaL_> damn...
[13:08] <salil__> DhavaL_, But it will detect windows installations
[13:08] <DhavaL_> I know
[13:08] <joaopinto> BladeNBrocade, he wants to see the ip for a windows host, because he asking here I assume he is using Ubuntu
[13:08] <DhavaL_> But not installing grub will save me the trouble of trying to uninstall it later.
[13:08] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: ? I am using 8.04
[13:09] <BladeNBrocade> okies
[13:09] <Foerdy> yes i am using ubuntu
[13:09] <BladeNBrocade> host
[13:09] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: have you tried using ctrl+alt+backspace before?
[13:09] <BladeNBrocade> dig nm/nslookup etc would do the job
[13:09] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: when that is used, it usually closes out the currently running X server, but gdm or another display manager usually restarts it
[13:10] <DhavaL_> Hello?
[13:10] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: that display manager also manages the login screen
[13:10] <Foerdy> it works! thank you for your help :)
[13:10] <DhavaL_> Yes, so Salil, should I go ahead and instal ubuntu on the free space?
[13:10] <BladeNBrocade> =) yaay
[13:10] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: so what I need to type going back to login screen ?
[13:10] <DhavaL_> and I can dual boot with Grub?
[13:10] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it will show up automatically
[13:11] <DhavaL_> ?  ?  ?
[13:11] <BladeNBrocade> DhavaL_: yes
[13:11] <TriMe> Hello Anyone Here See This Picture? :: Whats the System Monitoring program that allows this? http://www.cairo-dock.org/index.php
[13:11] <DhavaL_> alll righty...
[13:11] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: I had tried ctrl+alt+backspace before once , it goes to something like terminal dos alike
[13:11] <DhavaL_> I'll be back.
[13:12] <bazhang> TriMe, cairo-dock or some other?
[13:12] <indus> !welldone
[13:12] <BladeNBrocade> i was going crazy when i set my first dual boot with the live cd too =)
[13:12] <indus> !goodwork
[13:12] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it doesn't do that for me and I don't recall changing any settings related to that
[13:12] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: there are few times my gui crash but ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't go into terminal
[13:12] <bazhang> indus, /msg ubottu please
[13:12] <vassler> wwhat are qt applications?
[13:12] <TriMe> bazhang:  nar the System Monitor Not Cairo Dock lol..
[13:13] <marissa> hello will someone tell me about online gameing on ubuntu? im having a hard time finding online gameing
[13:13] <bazhang> TriMe, conky?
[13:13] <derspankster> bazang: conky?
[13:13] <BladeNBrocade> applications using qt runtime i believe
[13:13] <lstarnes> vassler: applications that use qt as their widget toolkit
[13:13] <TriMe> yeah ?
[13:13] <TriMe> Cheers
[13:13] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: anyhow i had fix the gui crash , just incase it happen , what should I do to reboot back my pc ?
[13:13] <BladeNBrocade> and not gnome
[13:13] <indus> bazhang: i was trying to find out if that word has been added
[13:13] <lstarnes> vassler: most kde applications use it
[13:13] <bazhang> !conky
[13:13] <draciron> marissa what kind of games are you looking for?
[13:13] <BladeNBrocade> correct
[13:13] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: the screen is totally black , no sound and etc
[13:13] <indus> !info | conky
[13:13] <vassler> lstarnes: ok thank you
[13:13] <draciron> Wesnoth is a good stratigy based game.
[13:13] <bazhang> !info conky | TriMe
[13:13] <indus> lol
[13:13] <draciron> Neziuz a good FPS
[13:13] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: how to restart pc without pressing my COmputer reset button ?
[13:14] <BladeNBrocade> conky is annoying =)
[13:14] <lstarnes> !ssyrq | ubuntunewbie
[13:14] <TriMe> Cheers ubottu and bazhang
[13:14] <derspankster> bazang: http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[13:14] <lstarnes> oops
[13:14] <marissa> well i tryed yahoo games but it wont download none will i like word games
[13:14] <lstarnes> !sysrq | ubuntunewbie
[13:14] <bazhang> TriMe, there is a thread on ubuntuforums with the configs for conky
[13:14] <stefhand> ubuntu fr
[13:14] <indus> ubuntunewbie: ctl-alt-del?
[13:14] <TriMe> Argh KK Cheers Budd
[13:14] <stefhand> bonjour
[13:14] <draciron> Give me a sec, I'll see if I can dig a few up for ya Marissa.
[13:14] <indus> lstarnes: thanks for that]
[13:14] <bazhang> !dontzap > indus
[13:14] <marissa> ok thanx
[13:15] <stefhand> canal français
[13:15] <stefhand> ?
[13:15] <lstarnes> !fr | stefhand
[13:15] <bazhang> stefhand, /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:15] <ubuntunewbie> indus: Ctrl+alt+del doesn't work
[13:15] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: Ctrl+alt+del doesn't work
[13:15] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: I know
[13:15] <indus> ubuntunewbie: works here it shows up the shutdown window etc
[13:16] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: but did you see that factoid about the alt+sysrq trick?
[13:16] <indus> then i select what i want
[13:16] <TriMe> bazhang:  LOL!!! Where does it install to??? :P
[13:16] <ubuntunewbie> indus: I mean while my gui crassh
[13:16] <marissa> no online games! yikes
[13:16] <ubuntunewbie> indus: it wouldn't wor
[13:16] <bazhang> TriMe, you need to configure it
[13:16] <indus> ubuntunewbie:yes follow lstarnes
[13:16] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: yes
[13:16] <ziroday> hi marissa, game are you trying to play?
[13:16] <marissa> on yahoo
[13:16] <ziroday> marissa: link?
[13:16] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: yep , thanks a lot , next time incase it happen again it'll use that
[13:16] <draciron> marissa most of the online games use supported formats.
[13:16] <marissa> or pogo
[13:17] <ruffin> I wanna the reply that which country be here?
[13:17] <TriMe> bazhang: I used SPM to Instal...
[13:17] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: Thank you ;-D
[13:17] <marissa> i see
[13:17] <draciron> usually you have to install flash and away you go.
[13:17] <bazhang> TriMe, let me find the thread on ubuntuforums
[13:17] <ziroday> marissa: can you give us a link to the game you are trying to play please
[13:17] <draciron> Been looking for some more specific ones for ya, but "word games" is a little too vague.
[13:17] <marissa> ok how do i install flash?
[13:17] <marissa> bookworm
[13:17] <ziroday> marissa: do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[13:18] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5436679 TriMe
[13:18] <prathamesh> i am using ubuntu & want to use ekiga but i am getting error while i started ekiga. the error is Ekiga didnot manage to configure ur network automatically u hav to it with manually but still u can use it
[13:18] <TriMe> bazhang:  Thanks for ur Help!!!
[13:18] <bazhang> TriMe, you're welcome
[13:18] <marissa> thank you
[13:19] <ruffin> I want to improve my English, Who can help me?
[13:20] <aim> ruffin, what do ou want to know?
[13:20] <bazhang> ruffin, ##english NOT here
[13:20] <ruffin> Here is Ubuntu
[13:20] <ohir> !ot | ruffin
[13:20] <ruffin> Aha
[13:20] <bazhang> ruffin, its offtopic here
[13:20] <indus> lstarnes: oops that command crashed my gui :)
[13:20] <ruffin> Er, I use Xubuntu now
[13:21] <ruffin> So I have the right to be here!
[13:21] <Rick_xt> ruffin?
[13:21] <bazhang> ruffin, for support questions, yes; chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:22] <deveahh> hello again
[13:22] <aim> hello again
[13:22] <deveahh> I still didn't fix my problem
[13:22] <meglo> Is there a FAQ I can read about FF3.5 in Jaunty/etc so I don't have to bother people here? I'd like to go through official repos if that is possible - to maintain branding and ubufox plugins with file-format software associations.
[13:23] <aim> bugger
[13:23] <deveahh> I couldn't actually
[13:23] <ziroday> !ff35 > meglo
[13:23] <deveahh> how do I mount a partition?
[13:23] <meglo> ziroday: Thank you very much!
[13:23] <ziroday> deveahh: where is the partition located, and what is the mountpoint?
[13:23] <znag> sorry 4ot but is anyone else having problems dling from sourceforge today?
[13:23] <ziroday> meglo: have fun
[13:23] <salil__> deveahh, sudo mount /dev/whatever <folder>
[13:23] <ziroday> znag: #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:23] <deveahh> from the livecd?
[13:24] <csaba> I've setup vnc on my computer, and I can connect to it. However, when I click on something, or type something, the screen is not updated. It is happening, but it looks as if the screen is frozen. How to fix this?
[13:24] <GreyGhost> deveahh, man mount
[13:24] <deveahh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/+bug/358654
[13:24] <deveahh> "The solution is to use a live-CD to mount the system (or boot from a completely separate installation), mount the failed OS partition(s), and complete the update process"
[13:24] <deveahh> how exactly?
[13:25] <deveahh> also, I've been told to try the last post thing
[13:25] <bloupotlood> What are LVM partitions/volume groups?
[13:25] <ruffin> csaba resetup may fix you problem
[13:25] <deveahh> ruffin - my problem?
[13:25] <csaba> how to "resetup"?
[13:25] <QuantumKaos> where can i find info on what company uses linux server instead of win server?
[13:25] <ziroday> deveahh: um that bug has been fixed, you sure that is your bug?
[13:25] <deveahh> yes
[13:26] <deveahh> it's exactly what it told me
[13:26] <deveahh> ziroday, can we pm? this channel is too busy
[13:26] <ziroday> QuantumKaos: as in the advantages/disadvantages?
[13:27] <ziroday> deveahh: I'm sorry I don't really know the solution to your problem
[13:27] <coleys> deveahh: You should keep it in the channel so people with same problems, or people just learn in general what your speaking of.
[13:27] <coleys> deveahh: Whats your problem anyways.
[13:28] <deveahh> I have that bug I posted a link to
[13:28] <coleys> deveahh: I wasn't at my keyboard, post it again.
[13:28] <deveahh> well I posted a link to a page talking about it
[13:28] <deveahh> coleys - Ubuntu doesn't boot
[13:29] <coleys> deveahh: And why do you think that is? pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:29] <QuantumKaos> ziroday: no, i would only like to know if its true that important and big company that host servers use linux or window systems
[13:29] <ziroday> QuantumKaos: question better suited for #ubuntu-ofttopic
[13:29] <deveahh> coleys - I'm not on any Ubuntu now
[13:29] <ziroday> QuantumKaos: err #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:29] <deveahh> how do I do that?
[13:29] <coleys> QuantumKaos: Linux... Is always a better server.
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> always a better one
[13:29] <dunks_> not it's not coleys
[13:29] <dunks_> and SolarisBoy
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> YES IT IS
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> lol
[13:29] <bazhang> !ot
[13:29] <JoeM> I set up RAID 0 via the MB (Intel Matrix Storage Manager) but the 9.04 installer still sees two disks... how can I fix this?
[13:30] <QuantumKaos> coleys: i heard about that but id like to see who actually uses it
[13:30] <dunks_> "YEAH OK LOL"
[13:30] <Bilbo_Baggins> What is wrong with Solaris?
[13:30] <coleys> It actually is =P But your entitled to your oppinion.
[13:30] <bazhang> take chat elsewhere please
[13:30] <dunks_> Ok, and how's that coleys? :)
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> hence the majority the business world builds on it
[13:30] <bazhang> dunks_, SolarisBoy Bilbo_Baggins #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:30] <testi> Recently i installed wine from winehq sources. Now it installed a few fonts, but I have the impression that these fonts are also used in other applications than wine (e.g. firefox). Is Verdana an original font preinstalled with Ubuntu? That font is displayed on a web page, and I really don't like the look of it. I don't think it's an original font.
[13:30] <dunks_> No it doesn't, Windows has the majority share
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> srry ... i was being human =)
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> and oh.. windows has majority of workstations
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> not servers
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> lol
[13:31] <DhavaL_> I have returned
[13:32] <DhavaL_> This is what it says pre-install
[13:32] <DhavaL_> If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks.
[13:32] <DhavaL_> Otherwise, you will be able to make further changes manually.
[13:32] <DhavaL_> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[13:32] <DhavaL_> well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[13:32] <DhavaL_> The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
[13:32] <FloodBot2> DhavaL_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <DhavaL_>  SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda)
[13:32] <aguitel> anyone know how upgrade firefox-3.0.11 to firefox-3.5 with repositories ?
[13:32] <bazhang> !ff35 > aguitel
[13:33] <blind|melon|chit> !ff35
[13:33] <DhavaL_> If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks.
[13:33] <DhavaL_> Otherwise, you will be able to make further changes manually.
[13:33] <DhavaL_> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as
[13:33] <DhavaL_> well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[13:33] <DhavaL_> The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
[13:33] <DhavaL_>  SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda)
[13:33] <FloodBot2> DhavaL_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:33] <dunks_> SolarisBoy: http://resources.zdnet.co.uk/articles/features/0,1000002000,39424186,00.htm article from 2008, so not that old, 80% of servers surveyed run windows
[13:33] <bazhang> DhavaL_, dont paste here
[13:33] <dunks_> sorry, 81%
[13:33] <bazhang> dunks_, please stop
[13:33] <moncky> !paste | DhavaL_
[13:33] <ubuntunewbie> hi , does anyone know how to play midi file ? using ubuntu 8.04 , i tried numerous player but non of them successfully play mid
[13:34] <DhavaL_> ikonia?
[13:34] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: you would need a midi sequencer
[13:34] <DhavaL_> salil?
[13:34] <Dunge> I inadvertently copied the /usr folder from a ARM device over the /usr folder of my ubuntu machine while trying to move it to somewhere else (I know, this is very bad and stupide). So afterward I took the /usr data from another VMWare macine who had the same image and copied it over... but I'm getting some stange behavior... is my installation good for the thrash?
[13:34] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: ? where to find it ?
[13:34] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: raspberry or somthing irrc
[13:35] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: the only ones I have ever used are external hardware devices
[13:35] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: what is it you are trying to do exactly?
[13:35] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: I mean a .mid which I found at the internet
[13:35] <bamball> hello! Does anyone experience random firefox freeze from time to time on x64 ubuntu??
[13:35] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: I can't use amarok or other player to play it
[13:35] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: not sure which plugin , it run but no sound
[13:36] <DhavaL_> Well? What do I do. Will I have to delete my partition table?
[13:36] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: midi is not an audio file, its more like a communications protocol
[13:36] <wapko> bamball: i did when i used flashblocker. but since i removed it, no more problems
[13:36] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: huh ? sorry new to ubuntu , any way to play it ?
[13:36] <bamball> vapko: is that part of firefox by default?
[13:37] <wapko> bamball: no, it isnt
[13:37] <reZo> is it possible to resize an extended partition, it contains two logical partitions which are both full, i'm wanting to resize one of the logical one's, therefore need to change the extended partition size, is this possible?
[13:37] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: do you have a midi controler?
[13:37] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: http://tinyurl.com/ef5sm
[13:37] <reZo> and i have alot of unallocated space which i want to resize the extended partition into
[13:38] <DhavaL_> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[13:38] <bamball> wapko: I am experiencing this on 2 machines, one intel laptop and one AMD desktop.. but usually it only happens 3 times a day, each freeze can last for 10 to 20 seconds
[13:39] <DhavaL_> This is what I get wehn I try to install Ubuntu;
[13:39] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: i dont have that piano board
[13:39] <DhavaL_> What do I do?
[13:39] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: erm , I just wanted to play a midi song....
[13:39] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: or http://tinyurl.com/pq4v9v but you still need somthing to generate the sound
[13:39] <bazhang> ubuntunewbie, play? or convert
[13:39] <bazhang> rosegarden should be able to play it
[13:39] <bazhang> !info rosegarden | ubuntunewbie
[13:40] <wapko> bamball: i dont experience that. i have both an intel desktop and an amd laptop. so i dont know what you can do about it
[13:40] <testi> I'd like to remove all unoriginal fonts from my system (the wine package of winehq installed me some ugly fonts and they appear in firefox) How do I remove these?
[13:40] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: why not get the mp3? it would make more sense
[13:40] <bamball> wapko: Maybe it's my house's power-supply LOL
[13:41] <DhavaL_> WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[13:41] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: with midi you still need a seperate bit of hardware to make the sound
[13:41] <DhavaL_> so what can I do?
[13:41] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: sorry , kinda complicated to understand. is it same as mp3 ?
[13:42] <DhavaL_> Can anyone hear me?
[13:42] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: it's just some Final fantasy mid battle song that I had downloaded , nothing much
[13:42] <JediMaster> hey guys, I'm being told by our host that because our VPS virtual machine (running through Xen I believe) uses LVM for the drives that it's not possible to re-partition the virtual machine's drive. Does that actually make any sense??
[13:42] <bazhang> DhavaL_, what are you trying to do? edit partition table, then what
[13:42] <JediMaster> there's currently a swap and ext3 root partition
[13:42] <DhavaL_> I am not trying to edit the partition table exactly
[13:42] <vise> DhavaL_, Just do it.. Are you sure you selected the right partition to install? If yes.. do it!
[13:42] <DhavaL_> I have 30 gb free memory
[13:42] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: read the wiki article, MIDI contains no audio
[13:42] <DhavaL_> i tell it to install Ubuntu on it.
[13:42] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: nothing like MP3
[13:43] <bazhang> DhavaL_, explain clearly then what you are trying to do
[13:43] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: oh..
[13:43] <DhavaL_> But then it tells me this
[13:43] <bazhang> DhavaL_, yes we saw
[13:43] <DhavaL_> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on 30 gb free space
[13:43] <DhavaL_> I am using the partition editor I get during install
[13:43] <vise> DhavaL_, Read it again.. You have not formatted any other partition have you? Then how will you lose data?
[13:43] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: so , the only way playing it is to install rosegarden ?
[13:43] <bazhang> DhavaL_, and you have backed-up important data?
[13:43] <DhavaL_> Well why would I need to
[13:43] <DhavaL_> hang on..
[13:44] <bazhang> because it's important?
[13:44] <DhavaL_> If you continue, the changes listed below will be written to the disks. Otherwise, you will be able to make further changes manually. WARNING: This will destroy all data on any partitions you have removed as well as on the partitions that are going to be formatted.
[13:44] <DhavaL_> This is what it tells me pre-install and then:
[13:44] <dmasclet> join #vod_zne
[13:45] <bazhang> DhavaL_, yes we saw; did you back up important data?
[13:45] <DhavaL_> The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda)The following partitions are going to be formatted:partition #10 of SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda) as swap partition #9 of SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[13:45] <exia_> hi people i have a problem trying to jump over an MKV file in smplayer
[13:45] <DhavaL_> Well I don' think I have to
[13:45] <vise> DhavaL_, That statement does not mean that it will delete data not on your install partition... *paranoia*
[13:45] <DhavaL_> Sure
[13:45] <exia_> i cant jump anywhere over it :(
[13:45] <DhavaL_> it does give me that warning
[13:46] <bazhang> DhavaL_, always a good idea to have a back up
[13:46] <DhavaL_> I know, I know
[13:46] <DhavaL_> But I don't want to lose my WinXP install
[13:46] <bazhang> without is At your own risk
[13:46] <DhavaL_> just have Linux and Windows
[13:47] <bazhang> exia_, vlc should play that
[13:47] <exia_> bazhang, yes it plays but the video lags a little
[13:47] <DhavaL_> so i should go ahead and let it install?
[13:48] <bazhang> exia_, probably the video quality
[13:48] <exia_> bazhang, it's h264 24 minute video 368 mb, in smplayer it works perfect but i cant' jump
[13:48] <vise> lol
[13:48] <bazhang> exia_, ah I see
[13:48] <exia_> bazhang, do you know how can i set vlc the way it could play my mkvs faster?
[13:48] <imsantoso> help, anyone using skype
[13:49] <bazhang> exia_, there is a setting in vlc to play faster (ie Fast Forward button) mouse over will reveal it
[13:49] <DhavaL_> Bazhang?
[13:49] <maurizio> join #ubuntu.it
[13:50] <bazhang> maurizio, /join #ubuntu-it
[13:51] <DhavaL_> If i use WuBI, it'll use a virtual machine, won't it?
[13:51] <exia_> bazhang, well i cant find that setting :(
[13:51] <bazhang> DhavaL_, not really
[13:51] <vise> DhavaL_, No... WUBI does a vfs over disk images
[13:51] <exia_> bazhang, truly i dont rly know what are you talking about :)
[13:51] <DhavaL_> VFS?
[13:51] <bazhang> vise, for more info on ghost /msg ubottu !ghost
[13:51] <dreimark> hi
[13:51] <DhavaL_> it'll still dual boot?
[13:51] <dreimark> how can i reactivate eth0?
[13:52] <vise> DhavaL_, It will treat files of images as filesystems and mount them...
[13:52] <bazhang> exia_, there are two windows for vlc, the player window and the controller bar
[13:52] <Kellerman> ifconfig eth0 down, then up..
[13:52] <DhavaL_> o..k..
[13:52] <dreimark> I have replaed my hd to a identical system. everything works besided /dev/eth0 is missing
[13:52] <DhavaL_> so when i reboot
[13:52] <DhavaL_> How do I boot to Ubuntu?
[13:52] <vise> DhavaL_, If you are still a paranoid, you might try WUBI install.. It is not slow..
[13:52] <[[webrat]]> hi... i am using a "M2N68-AM SE2" and having some issues installing the graphics controller
[13:52] <bazhang> exia_, in the controller bar, there are buttons; mouse over them (move your mouse briefly and hold over them) and reveal their function
[13:52] <DhavaL_> OK,
[13:52] <[[webrat]]> is there any possible way i can optimize my screen resolution?
[13:53] <DhavaL_> But how is it different from installing in some partition?
[13:53] <DhavaL_> it isn't right?
[13:53] <tuttifrutti> tuutt
[13:53] <dreimark> what can i do when there is no /dev/eth0 /dev/eth1 ?
[13:53] <bazhang> DhavaL_, grub will handle that
[13:53] <[[webrat]]> hi... i am using a "M2N68-AM SE2" and having some issues installing the graphics controller
[13:53] <queso> I am having trouble getting my wireless working.  I've started a thread to get some help, but no one has responded: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203540  If you have any time, I'd appreciate your help. Thanks ;)
[13:53] <[[webrat]]> is there any possible way i can optimize my screen resolution?
[13:53] <DhavaL_> I see...
[13:53] <DhavaL_> So it is like installing on a partiton
[13:53] <vigo> !wubi
[13:53] <bazhang> [[webrat]], dont repeat so quickly
[13:53] <tuttifrutti> hallo
[13:53] <[[webrat]]> sory
[13:53] <exia_> bazhang, yes but oh well... maybe i said it incorrectly... i just need VLC play my video faster without any lags
[13:54] <bazhang> DhavaL_, no, it is installing a file in Windows (like add/remove)
[13:54] <esb> exia_:  What rig do you got ?
[13:54] <prathamesh> i want to use ekiga for video chatting. when i open ekiga it showing me error that ekiga failed to configure ur network automatically. so u hav to configure it automatically. & it given me error & a website link http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Enable_port_forwarding_manually which is wiki page. so i went through the instruction & tried to change my router settings as per the instruction in services & chekout nat in that nat option i selected nat optio
[13:54] <DhavaL_> ok.
[13:54] <DhavaL_> alright
[13:54] <DhavaL_> i'll go with that
[13:54] <prathamesh> can i use ekiga w/o doing all these things
[13:54] <exia_> esb, ehh rig?)
[13:54] <DhavaL_> I've done it before
[13:54] <vise> DhavaL_, WUBI will keep the whole ubuntu install in a folder in your windows drive..
[13:54] <[[webrat]]> do i still have a chance on my ne3w machine?
[13:54] <DhavaL_> I see...
[13:55] <DhavaL_> well that's nice
[13:55] <esb> exia_: AMD, intel ... amount of ram etc
[13:55] <DhavaL_> and it'll also install grub?
[13:55] <kerimbasol> iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT
[13:55] <MaT-dg1> I want to settup a php5/mysql server on ubuntu
[13:55] <exia_> esb, ah well core 2 duo 2,1 ghz, 1 gm ram, geforce 8600 gts 256 mb
[13:55] <vise> !enter | DhavaL_
[13:55] <JediMaster> can anyone think of a way of resizing the root partition while it's mounted? the machine has only just been installed, so can afford to screw it up (it's a VM and has almost instant restore)
[13:56] <vise> DhavaL_, No.. No grub.. It uses ntldr / bootmgr for Xp/vista to install the ubuntu entry.. No change to anything..
[13:56] <kerimbasol> you can only do with xfs file system.When your system working
[13:56] <kerimbasol> for resize
[13:56] <DhavaL_> :) Yay. Ok then. Here we go...
[13:56] <kerimbasol> JediMaster
[13:56] <esb> exia_:  If it's 1080p you trying to play it might be slow. I suggest you use SMplayer and activate multi threaded decoding and allow frame drop (x.264 only)
[13:56] <vise> lol
[13:57] <imsantoso_> help, anyone use skype
[13:57] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: what about in recovery mode from grub?
[13:57] <bamball> esb: does 9.04 mplayer come with multi-threaded support by default?
[13:57] <exia_> esb, but i played such videos earlier in windows using the kmplayer %)
[13:57] <kerimbasol> What will you do with grub ?
[13:57] <exia_> esb, if i use smplayer it doesnt allow me to jump over the MKV
[13:57] <exia_> esb, but it works perfect in it, but VLC lags
[13:58] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: I mean the recovery option that ubuntu adds to grub, doesn't that put you in single user mode?
[13:58] <esb> exia_: It should be just the same as mplayer.
[13:58] <esb> bamball: I don't know.. I only use SMplayer. It' probably the same though
[13:58] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: I know recovery mode of grub.I can fix my boot solutions with a live or rescue cd
[13:59] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: and then rewrite grub with my own configuration
[13:59] <ethanol> is there a good tutorial/faq somewhere on automounting an smb share from a network machine?
[13:59] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: I can't boot from an image/cd, it's a VPS/virtual machine with no ability to upload/specify an image to boot from
[13:59] <bamball> esb: I had to download the source to build a version which has multi-threaded support in 8.10.. dun want to do this again after upgrade...
[13:59] <kerimbasol> ethanol: I can send an example about automount
[14:00] <ethanol> that would be swell too. pastebin perhaps?
[14:00] <exia_> esb, well okay frame drop is allowed in smplayer but
[14:00] <esb> bamball: Use SMplayer and you'll have it included
[14:00] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: instert iso image and boot with it
[14:00] <exia_> esb, but i still cant find that multi threaded encoding
[14:01] <JediMaster> kerimbasol: read what I just wrote, I can't boot from anything other than the installed OS (ubuntu 9.04)
[14:01] <kerimbasol> /192.168.1.15/backup   /network/linksys/backup cifs    username=administrator,password=secret 0 0
[14:01] <esb> under settings and preformance
[14:01] <kerimbasol> ethanol: this is fstab
[14:01] <kerimbasol> ethanol: ok ?
[14:01] <ethanol> cifs is for samba?
[14:01] <bamball> esb: I dun think so.. SMplayer is just a front-end to call the mplayer binary.. i tried b4 on 8.10, didn't really use more than 100% cpu until i point my mplayer binary to the custom build one (i use smplayer too)
[14:02] <dbugger> hi guys!
[14:02] <kerimbasol>  //192.168.1.15/backup   /network/linksys/backup cifs    username=administrator,password=secret 0 0
[14:02] <kerimbasol> ethanol : this correct
[14:02] <esb> exia_: ... set Threads for decoding (MPEG-1/2 and H.264).. set it to more than 1... I use the same as the amount of processor-cores
[14:02] <kerimbasol> ethanol: yes cifs for samba you can use smbfs instead of it
[14:02] <dbugger> Let's see if you can help me with this. Im quite rusty on me shell skills... If I have 3 commands, say cmd1, cmd2 and cmd3, and I want to run cmd2 after cmd1, but I dont want to wait for them to finnish to do cmd3, how would I write that???
[14:03] <kerimbasol> JediMaster: which vm do you use ?
[14:03] <ethanol> I need to mkdir /net or /network first I presume?
[14:03] <Dunge> I inadvertently copied the /usr folder from a ARM device over the /usr folder of my ubuntu machine while trying to move it to somewhere else (I know, this is very bad and stupid). So afterward I took the /usr data from another VMWare machine who had the same image as mine and copied it over... but I'm getting some strange behavior... and now i'm stuck in initramfs. Is my installation good for the thrash?
[14:03] <exia_> esb, okay thanks. well i didnt found that
[14:03] <exia_> esb, in smplayer in performance
[14:04] <kerimbasol> ethanol:  /network better in  redhat i encoured with a problem
[14:04] <exia_> esb, theres only allow frame drop and its switched on
[14:04] <Ranakah> hi... i have one problem...
[14:04] <Ranakah> http://www.shrani.si/f/3g/13x/UK7glE6/06072009.jpg
[14:04] <esb> exia_: no Threads for decoding ?
[14:04] <vigo> dbugger: Are you using the Tab things?
[14:04] <Ranakah> and when i push CTRL+D system work normaly... but then i don't see /boot partition
[14:04] <dbugger> what tab thing?
[14:04] <esb> exia_:  You using the 0.6.7 version ?
[14:04] <exia_> esb, ah yeah i see, min
[14:04] <nibsa1242b> Need GRUB help, I'm building a computer for a friend... They have decided to allow me to put Ubuntu on it. They want windows to be the default booting OS. I see in the menu.lst file I can set a # for a default option, but that seems like with every kernel update the # for Windows ( the last entry ) will change. Can I make windows ( or any other OS ) the first option without screwing anything up?
[14:05] <exia_> esb, well i set it 2
[14:05] <vigo> dbugger: In Terminal one can use multiple tabs.
[14:05] <exia_> esb, but i still cant jump over the video :-)
[14:05] <exia_> esb, its my main problem... not performance
[14:05] <vise> dbugger, cmd1; cmd2; (cmd3 &)
[14:05] <dbugger> vigo, it's for scriting actually..
[14:05] <esb> exia_:  What output driver do you use ?
[14:05] <dbugger> ty vise!
[14:05] <[[webrat]]> is there any possible way i can optimize my screen resolution?
[14:05] <exia_> esb, XV
[14:05] <vise> dbugger, Not sure! try first...
[14:06] <dbugger> I will!
[14:06] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: you can make your default selection from default
[14:06] <esb> exia_: Sorry... can't be of anymore help = / Good luck anyways
[14:06] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: from menu.lst
[14:06] <exia_> esb, thanks you too man :) i'll try to solve this problem
[14:06] <dbugger> vise, not really good... I keep getting them in order
[14:07] <[[webrat]]> hi... i am using a "M2N68-AM SE2" and having some issues installing the graphics controller
[14:07] <vigo> let me test that,,,,
[14:07] <vise> dbugger, Put cmd3 & as the first one instead.. That should dispatch cmd3 in background..
[14:07] <exia_> esb, yeah!
[14:07] <nibsa1242b> kerimbasol: problem is... if I make #6 default now, and then a kernel update comes out, the desired default OS would move to #9 but it would still default to whatever #7 is
[14:07] <exia_> esb, i solved it :D seems that that MKV was broken, i just switched on one option ...
[14:07] <dbugger> vise, the thing is im scripting for PHP and I have to call some "exec" function" but I want to keep displaying my page while the server processes :S
[14:08] <Medo42> I'm using the Karmic alpha and gdm stopped working. It only shows a "busy" mouse cursor on a black screen. I can move the corsor but nothing else happens.
[14:08] <exia_> esb, Rebuild index if needed
[14:08] <esb> exia_: Congrats =)
[14:08] <exia_> esb, it's called ... yeah im so glad
[14:08] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: i understood.Which version ubuntu do you use
[14:08] <vise> dbugger, So did you try (cmd3 &); cmd1; cmd2 ?
[14:08] <nibsa1242b> kerimbasol: 9.04
[14:09] <dbugger> the thing is that there's not really a 3rd command, I just want to send the output of "cmd1; cmd2; to other flow that's not the screen
[14:09] <indus> Medo42: use ubuntu+1 channel
[14:10] <dbugger> to put it simple, how would you execute a script.sh so that you can keep using the terminal while it's being executed?
[14:10] <MK13> dbugger, drag it into an already open terminal
[14:10] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: I forget its command but a command recreate the menu.lst.I am trying to remmember
[14:10] <kerimbasol> at kernel update
[14:10] <dbugger> MK13, im scripting for PHP. Cant do that
[14:11] <dbugger> wb vise
[14:11] <MK13> dbugger,  i don't think it would let you use it while executing my way anyway
[14:11] <dbugger> to put it simple, how would you execute a script.sh so that you can keep using the terminal while it's being executed?
[14:11] <vise> dbugger, ./script.sh &
[14:11] <dbugger> Im gonna try that...
[14:12] <kerimbasol> nibsa1242b: i remembered the name of command update-grub this is your beginning
[14:12] <easwar> how do you redirect stderr to /dev/null ?
[14:12] <easwar> like command &(1,2,3,what?)>/dev/null
[14:12] <kerimbasol> easwar: you will use like this echo 2>&1
[14:12] <kerimbasol> easwar: you will use like this echo Hello 2>&1
[14:12] <vise> dbugger, You can't use that with sudo though...
[14:13] <kerimbasol> easwar: this is redirect stdout
[14:13] <dbugger> I dont need sudo :)
[14:13] <easwar> kerimbasol, ok,and stderr?
[14:13] <kerimbasol> easwar: this is stderr to stdout if you want to redirect stdout to stderr echo Hello 1>&2
[14:14] <vise> How do I exit the shell which has the child process as this xchat without exiting xchat.. Can you reparent or something?
[14:14] <kerimbasol> easwar: if file redirection echo 2>&/tmp/error.txt
[14:15] <kerimbasol> easwar: ok ?
[14:15] <Titan8990> vise, launch xchat with: xchat & disown
[14:15] <MaT-dg1> I want to install torrentflux-b4rt, but have no idea how to set up database in mysql
[14:15] <vise> Titan8990, So i can't do anything now.. :(
[14:15] <easwar> kerimbasol, yeah.but now I want to run this command in background,so command & 2>/dev/null , correct?
[14:15] <Titan8990> vise, if you atleast sent it to background you can still disown it
[14:16] <kerimbasol> easwar: It isnt corrent command sythax
[14:16] <Titan8990> vise, but no, not if its in foreground of the terminal
[14:16] <vise> Titan8990, Yes.. it is in background already
[14:16] <easwar> kerimbasol, then?
[14:16] <vise> Titan8990, How do i do it?
[14:16] <kerimbasol> easwar: command 2>&/dev/null this is correct one
[14:16] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: installed rosegarden but still no sound .. the mid runs but no sound
[14:17] <easwar> kerimbasol, then bash gives me ambiguous redirect
[14:17] <kerimbasol> easwar: i saw background question now
[14:17] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running
[14:17] <ubuntunewbie> what does JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running means ?
[14:17] <lstarnes> easwar: try command 2>/dev/null &
[14:17] <vise> Titan8990, How do I disown xchat which i started as background?
[14:17] <ethanol> which log contains fstab errors? some entries are not being mounted and I don't know why :(
[14:17] <lstarnes> vise: just type disown
[14:18] <vise> lstarnes, Should I exit the shell now then?
[14:18] <easwar> lstarnes, thanks that worked
[14:18] <kerimbasol> easwar: wait a minute
[14:18] <easwar> :D
[14:18] <lstarnes> vise: see if it works
[14:18] <easwar> kerimbasol, ok
[14:18] <vise> lstarnes, Okay.. If it doesnt.. Il reconnect and kill you... lol
[14:18] <lstarnes> easwar: I usually use command >/dev/null 2>&1 &
[14:19] <lstarnes> easwar: that will redirect both stdout and stderr
[14:19] <easwar> lstarnes, hmm,right now I was trying to find a way stop conky telling me it's drawing to double buffer and all
[14:20] <vise> yay! lstarnes.. It worked.. You are safe..
[14:20] <j0nr> hi all
[14:20] <ubuntunewbie> what does JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running means ?
[14:20] <easwar> kerimbasol, ??
[14:20] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it means exactly that
[14:20] <bishop> joining
[14:20] <JoeM> actionparsnip1 you still here?
[14:20] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: you are not running the jack server
[14:20] <bishop> hello
[14:20] <kerimbasol> easwar: command 2>/dev/null try this
[14:20] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: what is a jackserver?
[14:20] <kerimbasol> easwar: command 2>/dev/null & try this
[14:21] <easwar> kerimbasol, that's exactly what lstarnes said,and it worked
[14:21] <JoeM> guess not
[14:21] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it's commonly known as jackd.  It's one of several audio servers
[14:21] <lstarnes> easwar: no, it's not.  kerimbasol's command does not redirect stdout
[14:21] <easwar> lstarnes, your first command
[14:22] <JoeM> I am doing a complete update (hardware, os, etc) old was 8.10 32b and new is 9.04 64b, I have a list of all the packages my 32b had installed, if I just go and install them all that shouldn't break anything should it?
[14:22] <kerimbasol> thanx :)
[14:22] <easwar> lstarnes, when you first joined this conversation
[14:22] <ethanol> which log contains fstab errors? some entries are not being mounted and I don't know why :(
[14:22] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: i really have no idea , I still can't play midi files
[14:22] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: what are you using to play them?
[14:23] <easwar> JoeM, you will have to get the 64 bit packages,you won't be able to use any packages you might have backed-up(well,you could,but it's not recommended)
[14:23] <susscorf1> my printer supports stapling where can i find the option if ubuntu supports it ?
[14:24] <JoeM> easwar I mean I just have a list (the one the bot says to make for cloning), I woudl assume it would automatically choose the 64b version of them... unless the name is different too
[14:24] <easwar> JoeM, Are you talking of a list generated by Synaptic?
[14:24] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: tried using amarok , rythmbox , audiacous all not working
[14:24] <evonise`emp> when I try to install ubuntu on my old laptop (Acer Aspire 1310) it freezes on install, also on alternate install, what can I try to do to fix it?
[14:24] <JoeM> easwar aptitude, but basically yes
[14:24] <JoeM> easwar just a list of package names
[14:25] <easwar> evonise`emp, RAM?
[14:25] <JoeM> !clone
[14:25] <evonise`emp> easwar i did a mem test
[14:25] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: I usually use rosegarden with timidity for midi files
[14:25] <JoeM> easwar I did that (first half)
[14:25] <easwar> JoeM, hmm,I never migrated from 32 to 64,when I did,it was because my HDD crashed
[14:25] <dbugger> How can I redirect the output of a script to another output so that it wont bother me??
[14:26] <easwar> JoeM, I shouldn't think it should break anything
[14:26] <JoeM> easwar guess I'll find out the hard way!  It's a clean install so no harm if it screws things up
[14:26] <lstarnes> dbugger: do you want to redirect somewhere where you can retrieve it later, or do you want to discard the output?
[14:26] <easwar> evonise`emp, I meant amount of RAM
[14:26] <kerimbasol> dbugger: do you want to pipe mechanism
[14:26] <evonise`emp> easwar i have 512 mb ;o
[14:26] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: I jsut downloaded rosegarden but it show JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running
[14:26] <jcapinc> alright when is ubuntu releasing FF 3.5?
[14:26] <easwar> evonise`emp, have you ever tried ubuntu on this machine earlier?
[14:26] <lstarnes> !ff35 | jcapinc
[14:26] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: timidity ?
[14:27] <evonise`emp> easwar no i havent...
[14:27] <dbugger> Im executing a "exec" call in PHP but I want the web to keep rendering, and the PHP web says this: "If a program is started with this function, in order for it to continue running in the background, the output of the program must be redirected to a file or another output stream. Failing to do so will cause PHP to hang until the execution of the program ends."
[14:27] <JoeM> easwar loving this new SSD, install so speedy
[14:27] <easwar> JoeM, :)
[14:27] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: it's a cli-based midi player and server
[14:27] <easwar> evonise`emp, hmm
[14:27]  * easwar thinks
[14:27] <evonise`emp> :D
[14:28] <kerimbasol> dbugger: may be you can use popen and it is a kind of stream like file stream
[14:28] <dbugger> what's "popen"?
[14:28] <kerimbasol> dbugger: You can send its output to users web browser...
[14:28] <easwar> dbugger, pipe open
[14:28] <easwar> IIRC
[14:28] <dbugger> lol :D
[14:29] <kerimbasol> dbugger: it is a kind of async process output communication
[14:29] <dbugger> so simply $popen("./script.sh")
[14:29] <Ambri> #familycasserole
[14:29] <dbugger> ?
[14:29] <kerimbasol> dbugger: yes ;)
[14:29] <dbugger> let's try..
[14:29] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: should I install timidity ?
[14:29] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: yes
[14:29] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: ok
[14:29] <easwar> evonise`emp, sorry,no idea,maybe try adding boot parameters like acpi=off and noapic
[14:29] <^cheeky> hi,err i kind put some of my music albums and other files in the trash and i cant seem to restore it, when i click and move it even to the desktop it says, no file or directory exists, maybe coz it was deleted ... how can i restore my files
[14:30] <JoeM> ok... that's not good
[14:30] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: I've heard that fluidsynth is supposedly better
[14:30] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: will let you know after I install , take some time since my connenction speed wasn't that good
[14:30] <evonise`emp> easwar ok, im not that into linux, so ill google :)
[14:30] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: You can restore with testdisk photorec
[14:30] <easwar> evonise`emp, lol
[14:30] <lstarnes> ubuntunewbie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Midi/SoftwareSynthesisHowTo might be useful
[14:30] <JoeM> bah...
[14:31] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: Or wait a minute i will better recovery software advice
[14:31] <JoeM> I think I was dumb and forgot to set the boot flag on the OS drive
[14:31] <IGITIHI> Hi everyone! I have a problem with rar files. Can someone help me?
[14:31] <JoeM> anyway to fix that without reinstalling?
[14:31] <evonise`emp> easwar thanks
[14:31] <arch-nemesis> .
[14:31] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, so there is no restore function .. :/
[14:32] <dbugger> na, that doesnt work on the shell :( only in C programming
[14:32] <swoody> evonise`emp:  did you do anything to cause the freeze?
[14:32] <easwar> ty swaj
[14:32] <easwar> oops
[14:32] <Baba_B00ie> anyone know of a bug in firefox 3.0.11 where it erases the bookmarks ?
[14:32] <easwar> ty swoody
[14:32] <swoody> easwar:  yup :)
[14:32] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: http://www.howtoforge.net/recover-deleted-files-with-scalpel
[14:33] <swoody> evonise`emp:  or have you run memtest on your laptop recently?
[14:33] <easwar> swoody, yeah,he has
[14:33] <swoody> ah, ok good
[14:34] <evonise`emp> swoody, i was installing ubuntu from the cd
[14:34] <swoody> evonise`emp:  and it came up with no errors?
[14:34]  * easwar watches on the sidelines
[14:34] <zak_>  ima connected to a distant machine using ssh , how can i launch amarok on that distant machine
[14:34] <evonise`emp> swoody u mean the memtest?
[14:34] <swoody> evonise`emp:  yes
[14:34] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: another one is "foremost"
[14:34] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: ok ?
[14:34] <evonise`emp> swoody, when installing with grapical interface, it freezed at 22 %, and at alternate install on 83 %
[14:35] <zak_>  ima connected to a distant machine using ssh , how can i launch amarok on that distant machine*
[14:35] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, yeah man thank you iam reading up on scalpel
[14:35] <swoody> evonise`emp:  it sounds like you don't have enough HDD space
[14:35] <easwar> !repeat
[14:35] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, what do you use ?
[14:35] <evonise`emp> swoody the memtest was busy for 1,5 hours or somthimg, i dont know what it was still doing, but it ran fine i guess
[14:35] <easwar> !repeat| zak_
[14:35] <swoody> evonise`emp:  is this a clean install, or is there another OS on your HDD?
[14:35] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: if you select file by type i can advice foremost
[14:35] <evonise`emp> swoody there is somthing on the hdd, but i chose to use the whole disk
[14:35] <susscorf1> my printer supports stapling where can i find the option if ubuntu supports it ?
[14:35] <evonise`emp> swoody and the hdd is 30 gb
[14:36] <swoody> evonise`emp:  what options did you pick during install? To use the entire drive?
[14:36] <evonise`emp> swoody yes, i did not really understand the linux partitioning, but as far as i know i used the whole disk
[14:36] <vise> Where can I get xserver-xorg-input-synaptics driver source code for ubuntu? Driver is installed.. But it is buggy while tapping.. So it would be cool if i get to change it...
[14:36] <easwar> evonise`emp, if you wanted to use the whole disk,you would have chosen the first option
[14:37] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: http://www.howtoforge.net/recover-deleted-files-with-foremost
[14:37] <evonise`emp> easwar in graphical or alternate install?
[14:37] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: ok ?
[14:37] <easwar> evonise`emp, graphical
[14:37] <evonise`emp> easwar ok
[14:37]  * easwar has alternate CDs but never used them
[14:37] <swoody> evonise`emp:  on the installation, did you select to "Install Ubuntu to entire hard drive", "Install Ubuntu to entire free space on hard drive",  or do it manually?
[14:37] <ethanol> ok. so I mounted an smb share. but it tries to read usernames from my local machine, rather than from remote server.
[14:37] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, thank you
[14:37] <^cheeky> cheers
[14:37] <kerimbasol> ^cheeky: i understood you will rescue only mp3 hence select foremost.Did i understand right ?
[14:37] <evonise`emp> swoody on the entire disk
[14:38] <evonise`emp> swoody i will try it again, but what i dont understand: why doesnt it give an error then like: you dont have enough space?
[14:38] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, well .avi/ mp3
[14:38] <swoody> evonise`emp:  well you may want to check the installation media. So when you boot from the liveCD again, try running the option "Test install disc for errors"
[14:38] <simoncpu> hello fellow weirdos
[14:38] <simoncpu> anyone here uses digiKam?
[14:39] <swoody> evonise`emp:  it'll be on the menu that first comes up when you boot from the disc
[14:39] <bishop> Eemp  what os were u runnin?
[14:39]  * easwar no KDE
[14:39] <evonise`emp> swoody i did that the time when i used the desktop iso and the graphical setup, it returned with no errors
[14:39] <evonise`emp> swoody and it still freezed
[14:40] <evonise`emp> swoody i will do it now with the alternate iso
[14:40] <swoody> evonise`emp:  what kind of HDD do you have? i.e. who's it made by?
[14:40]  * ivalladt is back. 
[14:40] <evonise`emp> swoody ok wait
[14:40] <J_P> hey all, what package contain arial.ttf font?
[14:40] <ivalladt> J_P: apt-file
[14:41] <evonise`emp> swoody 30 GB HDD IBM Travelstar 2.5" 4200 RPM (Serial nummer: IC25N030ATCS04-0)
[14:41] <swoody> evonise`emp:  one sec....
[14:41] <evonise`emp> swoody thanks mate
[14:41] <BLOK> HI
[14:42] <karamella> hi all ( indus ) r u their
[14:42] <indus> of course iam
[14:42] <indus> :)
[14:42] <evonise`emp> lol
[14:43] <simoncpu> get a room
[14:43] <karamella> good
[14:43] <indus> ok :D
[14:43] <dbugger> join #bash
[14:43] <karamella> yaa
[14:43] <indus> karamella: so is your problem solved?
[14:43] <karamella> realy
[14:43] <karamella> noooooooooooo
[14:44] <indus> karamella: what is the problem tell
[14:44] <karamella> i copied all font in ttf
[14:44] <mickster04> good afternoon indus
[14:44] <indus> mickster04: good evening mickster04
[14:44] <karamella> but the file i wanna to read is not combat-able
[14:44] <indus> karamella: what file is this? and what is the error
[14:44] <swoody> evonise`emp:  go ahead and try the mini.iso, but if that doesn't work for you either, you may want to try and run a complete diagnostic on your HDD. Here is the link from your manufacture's website straight to it: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
[14:45] <karamella> indus
[14:45] <swoody> evonise`emp:  you'll need to download the .iso for Drive Fitness Test, burn it to a cd, and run it in your computer
[14:45] <karamella> could i send the file to u and tell me what the suitable font
[14:46] <evonise`emp> swoody what is the mini.iso?
[14:46]  * easwar thinks Debian
[14:46] <swoody> evonise`emp:  oh, sorry. The alternate install of Ubuntu
[14:46] <evonise`emp> swoody i have the alternate install iso
[14:46] <indus> karamella: yes
[14:47] <indus> send it
[14:47] <evonise`emp> swoody: ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[14:47] <karamella> ok
[14:47] <karamella> 1 sec
[14:47] <lynn> Does anyone running Jaunty have an issue with Firefox not properly un-maximizing?  (it stays the maximum size when you un-maximize instead of going back to the last-known unmaximized size).
[14:47] <swoody> evonise`emp:  yeah, that's what I meant, sry :)
[14:47] <indus> mickster04: how are things mic
[14:47] <mickster04> indus fine, u got that one sorted? anyone not eing seen to?
[14:47] <evonise`emp> swoody, and what do i want to do with that iso?
[14:48] <evonise`emp> swoody i already tried to install that one, but it freezed at 83 %
[14:48] <mickster04> lynn, havec u got compiz set up, and are uu using themes?
[14:48] <evonise`emp> swoody its now checking for errors on the CD
[14:48] <indus> evonise`emp: disconnect network cable and you will reach 100 %
[14:48] <evonise`emp> indus i dont have any network cable lol
[14:48] <indus> evonise`emp: its a silly bug
[14:48] <evonise`emp> indus :(
[14:48] <indus> evonise`emp: disconnect wireless then
[14:49] <evonise`emp> indus disconnect wireless :S?
[14:49] <lynn> mickster04: no compiz or themes.
[14:49] <indus> evonise`emp:/me wonders how to disconnect a wireless con :)
[14:49] <evonise`emp> indus this laptop doesnt have a wireless onboard
[14:49]  * indus wonders
[14:49]  * evonise`emp wonders indeed
[14:49] <mickster04> lynn ok just checking...sometimes they have issue with each other, nm then
[14:49] <evonise`emp> swoody, but what do u think, that i should try that drive fitness test?
[14:50] <indus> evonise`emp: hmm then wait for it to get over the freeze, probably feeling chilly at 83 %
[14:50] <evonise`emp> indus, you think it will go on after some time?
[14:50] <evonise`emp> indus i think i let it at 83, for about 30 mins
[14:50] <evonise`emp> indus on the graphical ionstall i could see if the mouse was still moving :P
[14:50] <Hellscream> i am cornholio
[14:50] <evonise`emp> swoody indus, the cd check returned no errors
[14:51] <Davidebian> may the cd be broken?
[14:51] <swoody> evonise`emp:  good, good. Try burning that HD fitness test I linked you, and run that
[14:51] <Hellscream> ya cd are boken
[14:51] <indus> evonise`emp: the point where it freezes, what is the installer doing? it will be saying something
[14:51] <bazhang> Hellscream, please stop
[14:51] <Hellscream> ok
[14:52] <korw> I'm setting up a ubuntu file server at the moment and I'm unsure of the best RAID configuration with 4 drives. Any advice out there for me? :)
[14:52] <evonise`emp> indus, i cant remmeber i will try it again now
[14:52] <indus> evonise`emp: its a live cd correct?
[14:52] <Hellscream> when will karmic reach rc stage?
[14:52] <evonise`emp> swoody ok i will try that after i checked what indus says
[14:52] <bazhang> !karmic > Hellscream
[14:52] <evonise`emp> indus: its this one: ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[14:52] <indus> evonise`emp: oh alternate
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: then iam not sure
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus: oh :(
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: whats wrong with the live cd?
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus it also freezed -.-
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: swoody probably follow swoody advice
[14:53] <indus> evonise`emp: freezed at where?
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus ok thanks
[14:53] <evonise`emp> indus at 22% once, and 25% trhe second  time
[14:53] <Davidebian> it always falls at 83 % ?
[14:54] <mintux> I set my wireless ip static and it can connects to modem 192.168.1.1 but it can not ping 192.168.1.1 and said Destination Host Unreachable
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus dunno what it said there
[14:54] <indus> evonise`emp: hmm thats strange, check hard disk cables
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus lol. its a laptop, it wroked fine :(
[14:54] <easwar> Davidebian, please use nick while addressing someone
[14:54] <bishop> Eemp  try a reintall linexline with swoody.
[14:54] <indus> evonise`emp: hmmmmmmm
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus: dunno how i can check that in a laptop :D
[14:54] <evonise`emp> indus maybe ill try that drive fitness test then
[14:55] <J_P> ivalladt: I install apt-file. And after did #apt-file  update  but he stop here. not show messages that updating...
[14:55] <indus> evonise`emp: ya thats good too,but do you have software for that?
[14:55] <evonise`emp> indus, what do u mean?
[14:55] <indus> evonise`emp: i mean... how are you gonna check fitness
[14:55] <evonise`emp> indus i read here that it is a bootable cd
[14:56] <evonise`emp> indus: http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT
[14:56] <Davidebian> easwar: there's a friendly way to do that?
[14:56] <easwar> indus, swoody provided a link to manufacturer's software
[14:56] <Hellscream> !karmic > indus
[14:56] <easwar> Davidebian, yeah,type the starting characters of a nick and press tab
[14:56] <evonise`emp> easwar, is that the manufacturars website :S?
[14:56] <Hellscream> !karmic > bazhang
[14:56] <indus> Hellscream: why are you sending me this link? for karmic
[14:56] <easwar> evonise`emp, that's what swoody said
[14:56] <Davidebian> easwar:  yeah, just fine
[14:56] <evonise`emp> easwar, i have a IBM travelstar, and this site is hitachi's
[14:57] <melhisedek>  Can I get Xchat to open links right away? And not have to right click on it and select "Open in browser" ?
[14:57] <swoody> evonise`emp:  there is a bootable .iso there. You need to burn it to a CD, and reboot to load it, just like a liveCD
[14:57] <indus> Hellscream: karmic rc is dated sep 23
[14:57] <evonise`emp> swoody, ok, but is it ok since this site is hitachi's, and my drive is a IBM travelstar ?
[14:57] <easwar> !karmic
[14:57] <Hellscream> i thought its dated oct 09
[14:57] <bazhang> Hellscream, yes I know
[14:57] <swoody> evonise`emp:  and don't worry about it saying Hitachi. IBM and Hitachi merged into one company, so that' the correct tool to use
[14:57] <kantxx> any squid gurus here?
[14:58] <erxin> hi, i use Ubuntu
[14:58] <axisys> what is a itune like app ?
[14:58] <evonise`emp> swoody: ok thanks, also easwar and indus: i will try it now cya :)
[14:58] <easwar> axisys, Rhythmbox
[14:58] <indus> bb
[14:58] <easwar> erxin, we all do
[14:58] <swoody> evonise`emp:  ok, let us know how it goes :)
[14:58] <easwar> evonise`emp, np,besta luck
[14:58] <axisys> easwar: will it let me purchase songs ?
[14:58] <evonise`emp> i will
[14:58] <Hellscream> diff between debian and ubuntu packages?
[14:58] <erxin> i configured my Compiz, but i dont know what i did, now nothing is working of my compiz effects
[14:58] <indus> evonise`emp: comeback soon :))
[14:58] <easwar> axisys, not from the iTunes store
[14:58] <erxin> how can i reset to defaults again ?
[14:58] <bazhang> Hellscream, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:59] <mickster04> erxin, mosts of us do here:P
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: dont care about itune store
[14:59] <Hellscream> ok
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: how about amazon cd?
[14:59] <RickX> anyone know how to export a rhythmbox playlist so it can be used in a cd cover?
[14:59] <erxin> then most of u can answer my question :P
[14:59] <mintux> no suggestion ?
[14:59] <easwar> axisys, It has tie-ups with Jamendo and Magnatune
[14:59] <mickster04> !ask | erxin
[14:59] <mickster04> erxin just go for it
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: i just searched for john powell .. found nothing
[14:59] <axisys> easwar: using rhythmbox
[15:00] <erxin> the effects of CompizConfig dont work anymore, how can i reset to defaults ?
[15:00] <Donks> Hi Can any one please help me?
[15:00] <easwar> axisys, both Jamendo and Magnatune concentrate on non-famous artists
[15:00] <easwar> erxin, do you have compizconfig settings manager installed?
[15:00] <erxin> yes
[15:00] <indus> Donks: mickster04:yeah micster will help you
[15:00] <axisys> easwar: hmm.. i want to listen to the bourne soundtracks.. if i like i then want to purchase
[15:01] <mickster04> lol
[15:01] <mickster04> !ask | donks
[15:01] <easwar> erxin, can't you select what effects you lost?
[15:01] <indus> hihihiihihih
[15:01] <easwar> axisys, hmm
[15:01] <axisys> easwar: any other tool.. close to itunes?
[15:02] <bishop> donks just ask ?
[15:02] <easwar> axisys, not that I know of
[15:02] <mickster04> donks just put my full nick before so i know ur speakin to me:P
[15:02] <erxin> no how can i do that
[15:02] <ethanol> anyone able to help me debug why my smb shares aren't mounted properly. as in, owners/groups on the remote machine are not recognized as the local machine and reading/writing is screwed up due to this
[15:02] <ethanol> not recognized on the local machine*
[15:02] <axisys> trying to see if pandora can help.. so far no go
[15:02] <easwar> erxin, um,use the tickboxes in front of the effects?
[15:03] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all,
[15:03] <Donks> I have repartitioned my hdd's and as a result I have wiped ubuntu from the drive, I am now getting a grum erro 17 and cannot boot into windows. I have googled this, I do not have a live cd to change the setting is there anything I can do to fix this?
[15:03] <CrAzYoNi> There is no "write" permission on apache channel.. I hope you'll might help me...
[15:03] <easwar> !details
[15:03] <Activ> Does somebody know openBSD ?
[15:03] <mickster04> donks, yeah get a live cd would be the easiest way
[15:03] <easwar> !details| CrAzYoNi
[15:04] <bazhang> Activ, wrong channel for that
[15:04] <Donks> is there anyother way to do this?
[15:04] <Activ> What channel i have to join ?
[15:04] <bazhang> Activ, the one for that system
[15:04] <Donks> I cant boot from any cd's for some reason including the win cd.
[15:04] <bazhang> Donks, what about usb
[15:04] <CrAzYoNi> Apache2 under Ubuntu Jaunty is configured, by default to hold inside "/etc/apache2/envvars", the path to the file that will hold the PID number of the root Apache - /var/run/apache2.pid
[15:04] <mickster04> donks, i've never tried..sorry...an i wouldnt actually know how to..cos it sounds like you can't access the grub settings?
[15:05] <CrAzYoNi> I'm writing a script that will make sure that the Apache service is up...
[15:05] <Donks> no I cannot input anything the system just hangs there
[15:05] <CrAzYoNi> What can cause the /var/run/apache2.pid to be without read permission?
[15:05] <xtalmath> in Jaunty: originally I got a popup for password everytime I mounted a partition in Computer folder. Now it doesnt. When I mount a vfat partition I can make directories etc, when I mount an ext3 I cant. Both say "could not determine permissions" in the properties pane.
[15:05] <bazhang> Donks, nothing boots? can you get into bios?
[15:06] <Donks> yes
[15:06] <Titan8990> CrazyEddy, check the init script that creates the pid
[15:06] <mickster04> donks how do expect to be able to do anything if u can't actually use the system?
[15:06] <bazhang> Donks, then set to boot from cd
[15:06] <Donks> i have disable all boot devices excpet the cd this also is not working
[15:06] <bazhang> sounds like a bad burn Donks
[15:07] <Donks> I have always had an issue booting from cd for some reason
[15:07] <mateo> hi
[15:07] <bishop> fyi there iz a live partition editor u can download and burn if u want to look at partitions.
[15:07] <bazhang> md5 the iso, burn at low speed, then do the disk integrity check Donks
[15:07] <indus> oops
[15:08] <zini2> I just installed two libraries (Ogre, OIS) through the package manager. But now a 3rd library complains, that it can't find the .pc files when I run cmake for it. Do I have to take additional actions or is there a problem with the packages or what?
[15:08] <mateo> i have a problrm with opera unite, i cant make it work
[15:08] <mickster04> donks, is it a pc or laptop?
[15:08] <Donks> its a pc
[15:08] <evonise`emp> swoody, that hdd test cd im running now, what do u expect it will do? can it fix the hdd aswell?
[15:08] <ethanol> come on guys, can anyone help me with smb shares?
[15:08] <mateo> think i cant portforward
[15:08] <indus> hi
[15:09] <indus> oops
[15:09] <indus> how do i enable language in open office
[15:09] <mickster04> donks, (please put my nick at the front, i have to keep searching for you,) mayb try gettin a usb with nbr on it an boot from that, do the grub stuff then try again
[15:09] <mateo> can anyone help me?
[15:09] <swoody> evonise`emp:  not sure what the program can do. If it comes across any errors, see if it has a way to try and fix them, but otherwise it may just let us know if there's something wrong with your HDD
[15:09] <evonise`emp> swoody i understand
[15:09] <mickster04> mateo port forwarding is hiandled by the router no?
[15:09] <Donks> mickster, what is nbr?
[15:10] <mateo> i guess
[15:10] <mateo> i have a router
[15:10] <mickster04> donks 9.04 comes in three flavours, desktop, server and netbookremix
[15:10] <Anirban1987> How to use OpenDNS on an ubuntu LAMP Server ?
[15:10] <GJ> Afternoon fella's
[15:10] <mickster04> donks mickster04 is my nick....
[15:10] <lunix> Hei people:)   I am trying to make fbi work so I guess I need to  enable my frambuffer by removing it from  /etc/modprobe.dblacklist-framebuffer.conf    My problem is that  I cant find out what videocard thats installed.. Is there any  command to do that??  Or maybe what im doing is not the best way  of fixing it.. If you know a better way please tell also ;)
[15:10] <mickster04> mateo, have you had a look at routersettings?
[15:11] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: hey sorry I was afk, you still need a seperate midi controller to make the noise
[15:11] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: did you read the article I linked for you
[15:11] <ctmjr> lunix, lspci | grep VGA
[15:11] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: is ok
[15:11] <mickster04> !pm | mateo
[15:12] <mickster04> donks, u dont have to install it, infact possily better if u dont, but u can use it to boot off a usb stick
[15:12] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: haven't finist all still reading , still i can't play at other media
[15:12] <lunix>  Thanks ctmjr:)  Ill try that
[15:12] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: other member lstarnes was helping me just now too
[15:12] <GJ> Question: I was wondering how I could set my default audio program, atm when I open an audio file it starts Totem Mediaplayer, but I wan't to use Rythmbox
[15:13] <lesshaste>  I just installed kile but when I go to Build->Compile it doesn't bring down any options. none of compile, convert, view or other show anything
[15:13] <Donks> mickster04, after i get that working on the flash drive can i remove grub?
[15:14] <mickster04>  well i would suggest you follow the instructions you saw before, its just u need to boot up off something...so if u dont wanna do a cd, use a usb stick instead
[15:14] <mickster04> donks well i would suggest you follow the instructions you saw before, its just u need to boot up off something...so if u dont wanna do a cd, use a usb stick instead
[15:15] <legend2440> GJ: right click the audio file choose properties then open with and select  Rhythym box
[15:16] <GJ> ok thanks Legend!
[15:17] <bishop> leaving
[15:18] <maccam94> !ff3.5
[15:18] <JoeM> I'm reinstalling again... but what would cause an error of "OS Fails to load" on a clean install of 9.04 64b?
[15:18] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: i downloaded it and it play midi file :-)
[15:18] <vytas> Hi. Is it normal for X to use 1GB of memory?
[15:19] <shay27> Hello , is it possible to create ssh connection in my local network without typing all the time the ssh password ?
[15:19] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: i didn't use the timidity or syth , I just tried with rosegarden
[15:20] <axnvshal> hiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[15:20] <vytas> shay27: just use authentication files
[15:20] <xtalmath> need help mounting
[15:20] <mickster04> ;)
[15:21] <ubuntunewbie> lstarnes: but some instrument wasn't synchronize as it should be...
[15:22] <Davidebian> hey, about firefox 3.5 , when will the icedove clone be ready?
[15:22] <bazhang> !ff35 > Davidebian
[15:23] <lcabrini> I'm looking for an application that performs the same function as the gnome character selector applet but does not assume I have a panel to put it on.
[15:24] <ziroday> lcabrini: such as gcharmap
[15:24] <Davidebian> ubottu: following your link
[15:24] <lcabrini> ziroday: nope, such as allow me to select a list of characters that I frequently insert.
[15:24] <lcabrini> and allow me to push to clipboard
[15:25] <ziroday> lcabrini: ah, well perhaps a clipboard manager such as glipper or parcelite then
[15:25] <lcabrini> ziroday: hm.. still a bit off, unfortunately.
[15:25] <ziroday> lcabrini: closest I know of sorry
[15:26] <lcabrini> ziroday: np, thanks for the help anyways
[15:26] <ziroday> lcabrini: good luck
[15:26] <homy> Hi, is there a demo site that shows all the new features of Firefox 3.5 (Not in a video, I mean one that you access with firefox 3.5 to see it in action)?
[15:26] <ziroday> homy: err what in particular are you looking for?
[15:27] <homy> A website which shows e.g. the new css and svg features of firefox 3.5
[15:28] <pantera69> hy to all
[15:28] <totyko> hola
[15:28] <totyko> alguien me ayuda con una tarjeta ati 9200
[15:28] <ziroday> homy: best I can find is http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.5/releasenotes/
[15:28] <pantera69_> hy to all
[15:28] <totyko> no me deja activar los efectos de escrorio
[15:29] <ziroday> !es | totyko
[15:29] <pantera69> hy to all
[15:29] <kbrosnan> homy: hacks.mozilla.org developer.mozilla.org
[15:29] <LastRomeo> hi
[15:30] <misteralexander> I am trying to install NDISWRAPPER on a computer with no internet.  So, I'm downloading all the NDISWRAPPER .deb's to a thumb drive and installing it one at a time. Well, it seems, there are like a thousand dependencies . . . causing me to endlessly run back & fourth.  Is there a way to get EVERYTHING all at once, instead of one at a time . . . FOREVER???
[15:30] <homy> kbrosnan: thanks!
[15:31] <faileas> misteralexander: install it on another box, use apt-on cd to grab all the files it installed
[15:31] <cabrey> misteralexander, where are you getting debs from?
[15:31] <indus> misteralexander: maybe use the package from medibuntu,. you will get all
[15:31] <cabrey> misteralexander, or use faileas suggestion :)
[15:31] <m477> i which option i can change standard browser ?
[15:31] <faileas> or use sudo apt-get install -s from another box, and use that to decide what debs to install
[15:31] <ziroday> m477: System > Preferences > Preferred Applications
[15:32] <misteralexander> cabrey: I'm getting the debs from the "Lenny" "Debian" site.
[15:32] <ziroday> !offline | misteralexander
[15:32] <m477> ziroday: thx
[15:32] <karamella> indus
[15:32] <indus> karamella: i just sent u email
[15:32] <ziroday> misteralexander: also mixing distro's is *really* not a good idea
[15:32] <misteralexander> indus: I didn't know there was a Medibuntu Package.
[15:32] <bazhang> misteralexander, don't
[15:33] <indus> karamella: go to system>administration>language support click on arabic and install
[15:33] <bazhang> misteralexander, breakage will ensue
[15:33] <misteralexander> bazhang:  Good to know, I assumed a deb was a deb was a deb.
[15:33] <Dalyor> Hello all !  I need a irc server francophone for Ubuntu please
[15:33] <misteralexander> bazhang: many thanks
[15:33] <indus> bazhang: what breakage
[15:33] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: hi
[15:33] <indus> bazhang: thats where i got skype from
[15:34] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: I had install muse but it still keep on saying that jackserver fail
[15:34] <ziroday> indus: mixing different distro's debs is dangerous.
[15:34] <ziroday> indus: heck mixing different ubuntu releases debs is dangerous
[15:34] <indus> ziroday: different distros?
[15:34] <bazhang> indus, very bad choice. please NEVER recommend that here.
[15:34] <NoNick> по русски помогают ?
[15:34] <bazhang> NoNick, #ubuntu-ru
[15:34] <indus> am i missing something
[15:34] <ziroday> indus: as in its not a good idea to use debian .debs or repositories in ubuntu
[15:34] <NoNick> tnx
[15:35] <indus> ziroday: aah debian debs
[15:35] <cabrey> indus, the skype binary will be the same across many distros
[15:35] <bazhang> indus, yes. don't use debian stuff in Ubuntu. ever.
[15:35] <indus> yes i forgot, thats 3rd party
[15:35] <indus> bazhang: but iam suggesting he search for an ubuntu version there
[15:35] <indus> hmm oops there is no such thing
[15:36] <bazhang> indus, at medibuntu
[15:36] <indus> misteralexander: where did you get ndiswrapper debs from
[15:36] <moncky> ubuntunewbie: have you asked the muse communtiy
[15:36] <cabrey> indus, he already said from the debian repository
[15:37] <indus> oh sorry missed it
[15:37] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: community ?
[15:37] <henkboom> Is there a way to get gnome to automatically switch to a workspace when a window in it demands focus?
[15:38] <cabrey> henkboom, no, that would be pretty annoying
[15:38] <indus> karamella: did u install, now try open it with open office and on start up it will give you options for character etc, try select arabic-windows or arabic iso
[15:38] <martin__> i just installed ubuntu and its already running out of space, but i have partitions with free space that i want to add, but how do i do this ?
[15:38] <ubuntunewbie> moncky: how do I check whether I had jackaudio installed. Why does it fail even on rosegarden
[15:38] <indus> karamella: i still cant get it to use arabic in text editor
[15:39] <karamella> I'M TRYING SIR
[15:39] <henkboom> cabrey: umm, you have to assume that applications only demand focus when they should be focused, otherwise what's the point of that functionality?
[15:39] <indus> ok i gtg
[15:39] <indus> bye all
[15:39] <indus> see u in some time from home
[15:40] <henkboom> in this case I click on a pidgin notification: it does nothing, since the window is on another workspace
[15:40] <homy> In jaunty with proposed-updates, when I install firefox-3.5 I get weird branding like a different logo and it is called shiretoko. Can I somehow get the normal name and branding for jaunty?
[15:40] <henkboom> maybe I'll have to switch back to xfce, where app focus works properly =/
[15:41] <cabrey> henkboom, are you talking about the black translucent bubbles?
[15:41] <ziroday> homy: shiretoko is the code name of the 3.5 release, and no you can't get the normal firefox branding.
[15:41] <henkboom> cabrey: no,
[15:41] <cabrey> henkboom, what do you mean by pidgin notification then?
[15:41] <genii> homy: firefox-3.5-branding
[15:41] <ziroday> genii: that still names it shiretoko AFAICT
[15:41] <henkboom> if pidgin gets a new message, the system tray icon turns into a notification symbol, and when I click it it's supposed to raise the message
[15:41] <homy> genii: this gives this ugly logo and shiretoko name.
[15:42] <misteralexander> !aptoncd
[15:42] <homy> ziroday: how come thats not possible? Who *wants* this ugly logo and name?
[15:42] <newbieRy> after a successful installation on my acer desktop, the installation to my toshiba satellite a305-s6909 is acting funny, I finally heard the sound for the login page but am at a white screen with crawling black lines.  Last thing I saw was after installing in Windows Vista, removing the disc, at the Ubuntu loading image.  And I am trying to install ver 8.04, any hints on how to fix the display?
[15:42] <genii> homy: The "minefield" releases will always have the globe logo, etc
[15:42] <martin__> i just installed ubuntu and its already running out of space, but i have partitions with free space that i want to add, but how do i do this ?
[15:42] <cabrey> henkboom, well usuallly the notification is a black bubble... what version of ubuntu?
[15:42] <homy> genii: what do you mean with "minefield"?
[15:42] <henkboom> cabrey: I get the black bubble as well of course
[15:42] <ziroday> homy: its because you have two versions of firefox installed
[15:42] <henkboom> I'm not talking about the libnotify notifications
[15:43] <genii> homy: Development versions
[15:43] <roland> anyone installed CLAM(C++ Library for Audio and Music) successfully?
[15:43] <homy> ziroday: if i uninstall the package firefox-3.0, will I get normal branding?
[15:43] <ziroday> homy: no
[15:43] <henkboom> I'm talking about the pidgin system tray notification
[15:43] <homy> genii: but it is the final version: dpkg-query -W firefox-3.5
[15:43] <homy> firefox-3.5	3.5+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1
[15:43] <sebsebseb> hi
[15:44] <henkboom> the focus problem also happens when I click a link in another app, firefox should raise, and it does when I'm in the same workspace
[15:44] <henkboom> but if I'm in a different workspace nothing happens
[15:44] <cabrey> henkboom, well it's possible there is a gconf setting...
[15:45] <henkboom> cabrey: where would I look to find it?
[15:45] <mitch_> hi
[15:45] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  mitch_
[15:45] <Guest90073> ty
[15:46] <joebodo> henkboom are you using compiz ?
[15:46] <henkboom> joebodo: no, metacity
[15:46] <sebsebseb> Guest90073: why change the guest name?
[15:46] <linuxien> hello
[15:46] <sebsebseb> Guest90073: to the guest name
[15:47] <zak__>  how to open a vnc session
[15:47] <Guest90073> hi wer u from guys
[15:47] <xtalmath> I dont have write permissions for an ext3 drive how come?
[15:47] <JoeM> ok... what is going on... I've tried to install 9.04 four times now (64b) and each time the install completes it tells me not bootabe
[15:47] <sebsebseb> !ot |  Guest90073
[15:47] <erUSUL> !addingfs | xtalmath
[15:48] <melhisedek> anyone can check if steam is working right now please?
[15:48] <zak__>  how to open a vnc session
[15:48] <sebsebseb> zak__: why?
[15:48] <cabrey> henkboom, alt-f2 -> gconf-editor
[15:48] <zak__> why..???!
[15:48] <xtalmath> !permissions | xtalmath
[15:48] <cabrey> henkboom, though it is kinda hard to navigate
[15:48] <henkboom> cabrey: yeah, but finding what setting it is
[15:49] <sebsebseb> zak__: yeah why you want to do one of those?
[15:49] <xtalmath> !fstab | xtalmath
[15:49] <pef> hi, i would like to use 3D with Jaunty and this graphic card : VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M800/K8N800/K8N800A [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01), unfortunatly openchrome drivers are not able to do that, what can I do ?
[15:49] <zak__> just wanan try it :d
[15:49] <kklimonda> how big differences make settings like CONFIG_HZ=100 in kernel config? i.e. how suitable is server kernel for desktop?
[15:51] <zak__> sebsebseb: so?
[15:51] <sebsebseb> zak__: who you want to connect to?
[15:51] <zak__> i want to connect from my desktop to my lappy
[15:51] <sebsebseb> zak__: ok
[15:51] <sebsebseb> !vnc |  zak__
[15:52] <Nameless_au> hey i'm using xubuntu, but can i stay in this channel please?
[15:52] <sebsebseb> zak__: and you don't need to use SSH  when  doing it  over a LAN (local area network)
[15:52] <evonise`emp> swoody, i finished the fitness test, it returned no errors
[15:52] <sebsebseb> zak__: ,but on the Internet  ssh should be used with it
[15:52] <zak__> got it :)
[15:53] <erUSUL> kklimonda: CONFIG_HZ=100 affects latency so things like media playback and others can suffer with a low value... desktop ubuntu uses 250 so maybe its not that important
[15:53] <martin__> i just installed ubuntu and its already running out of space, but i have partitions with free space that i want to add, but how do i do this ?
[15:54] <erUSUL> martin__: you can move /home to that partition that is a good thing in case of reinstalling and helps freeing space
[15:54] <martin__> okay ill try that
[15:54] <misteralexander> !offline
[15:55] <erUSUL> martin__: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[15:55] <sebsebseb> martin__:   what's the partition set up you done?
[15:55] <wiehan> I can't install ia32-libs, it says could not find package with sudo apt-get install ia32-libs, can't find it in synaptic either... This is so strange.
[15:55] <martin__> i installed ubuntu with dual booting windows xp
[15:55] <sebsebseb> martin__: what partitions do you have?
[15:55] <martin__> but they are on seperate hard drives
[15:56] <kklimonda> wiehan, you sure you are running 64 bit?
[15:56] <erUSUL> wiehan: maybe you are on 32 bits ubuntu ?
[15:56] <wiehan> Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 19:49:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux This isn't my pc, but that mean 32 bit or 64 bit?
[15:56] <erUSUL> wiehan: i686 <<< 32 bits
[15:57] <sebsebseb> wiehan: it means the version of Ubuntu that is installed is 32bit
[15:57] <kklimonda> wiehan, than it's a 32bit version of ubuntu and it doesn't need ia32-libs
[15:57] <wers> Whenever I try opening my iPod Touch via ssh I get Cannot display location "sftp://mobile@<IP add>/  Timed out when logging in" Any idea why? It didnt even ask for a password
[15:57] <wiehan> ahhh, ok...
[15:57] <sebsebseb> wiehan: it does not mean that the computer can't do 64bit OS's
[15:57] <JoeM> Ubuntu doesn't seem to play nice with the ASUS P6T raid controller... anyway to fix that, or another way to do raid?
[15:57] <wiehan> thank you though
[15:58] <sebsebseb> wiehan: ok np
[15:59] <wiehan> I keep on getting this error while I'm installing an official samsung printer driver::   export: 1667: 2009: bad variable name
[15:59] <erUSUL> JoeM: use linux software raid if you do not have dual bott with windows
[15:59] <marko-_-> !enter > marko-_-
[16:00] <martin__> on the seperatehome site it says "This guide is for creating a separate /home partition if you already installed Ubuntu without a /home partition (i.e., /home is just a folder inside your / partition). "
[16:00] <martin__> but i think i did install it with a home partition
[16:00] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | JoeM also to install on bioses raid follow this
[16:01] <wiehan> What does this error mean: export: 1667: 2009: bad variable name
[16:02] <NoGe> !seen gkovacs
[16:02] <exia_> can anybody explain what is =time out= for data connection?
[16:02] <exia_> i mean for FTP server...
[16:02] <nsahoo> is there a way to configure a key for toggle maximize?
[16:02] <misteralexander> bazhang: I'm still trying to get ndiswrapper to work.  Problem1, AptOnCd, no burner.  Problem2, when I tell Synaptic to make a "Generate a Package Download Script", it only makes a file with !#bin/sh or something like that, nothing else. Problem3, there is no ndiswrapper package in Medibuntu.
[16:03] <misteralexander> bazhang: Any Ideas?
[16:03] <Slart> misteralexander: before you clicked the "generate download script" did you mark any packages in the list?
[16:04] <misteralexander> bazhang: And the list of dependencies still numbers in the thousands.  I get one dependency only to find that IT has 20 other things IT depends on, so on & so fourth.
[16:04] <boghog> hello. is there seomthign I can do to make my Intel GPU behave better? I'm runing Ubuntu 9.04 and it locks up X a lot and produces a garbled screen when I try to run 3D applications
[16:04] <sebsebseb> !intel |  boghog
[16:04] <JoeM> erUSUL tried 5 times, alternate CD seems to work but then it won't boot... if i understand those links correctly, I can set up linux software raid via the alternate cd?
[16:04] <misteralexander> Slart: Well shit, I feel like an ass . . . I highlighted them, I didn't "Check" them.
[16:04] <boghog> thanks sebner / ubuntulog
[16:04] <Slart> boghog: I'm not sure but it could be that the intel bugs aren't really all fixed yet
[16:04] <misteralexander> DUH
[16:04] <boghog> err, ubottu
[16:04] <sebsebseb> boghog: sebner ???
[16:04] <Slart> misteralexander: =).. give it a try..
[16:04] <boghog> oh
[16:05] <boghog> I fail at tab-completing nicknames :D
[16:05] <JoeM> erUSUL: I have two 1TB drives I want to put into RAID 0 to use as /home
[16:05] <donks> I have downloaded netbook remix to try and boot from how do i make this into a bootable disk?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> boghog: yeah would be easier if those other two weren't here :)  I never see them chat in here anyway
[16:05] <bazhang> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 | misteralexander
[16:05] <sebsebseb> boghog: oh only one  not two at the moment :)
[16:06] <boghog> :P
[16:06] <misteralexander> Slart, okay, yeah . . . the script built just fine, but the problem is that the target computer has no internet & how to I make sure all dependencies get satisfied?
[16:06] <noodleboy> So, I'm seeing something really strange with login on a fresh jaunty install.  I have to attempt multiple times for GDM logins, ssh logins, sudo, etc.
[16:07] <misteralexander> Slart: okay, yeah . . . the script built just fine, but the problem is that the target computer has no internet & how to I make sure all dependencies get satisfied?
[16:07] <noodleboy> I thought maybe I had a stuck key or something, but the problem persists testing ssh auth from another machine
[16:07] <noodleboy> Anyone else seen this?
[16:08] <Ascavasaion> Can any recommend a nice CD to OGG ripper for Ubuntu with Gnome?
[16:08] <Slart> misteralexander: now you save that script on a big flash drive and go run it on a computer that does have an internet connection
[16:08] <DawnLight> can anyone help with bug #389992 please? i'm willing to pay
[16:08] <Slart> misteralexander: it's basically the same as aptoncd.. but with a little more manual work
[16:08] <Slart> !rip
[16:09] <misteralexander> Slart: Oh, and it'll just download to the flash drive?  Do I need to specify somewhere that the Flashdrive is the target?  And will it just pull the Dependencies automatically?
[16:09] <exia_> can anybody explain what is =time out= for data connection?
[16:09] <exia_> i mean for FTP server...
[16:09] <kerimbasol> exia_: different every ftp server.
[16:09] <Ascavasaion> Slart, In gnome?
[16:09] <Slart> misteralexander: I think it will download it to the same directory as the script file.. it's just a simple text file that runs some wget commands.. open it up and look at it
[16:09] <misteralexander> exia: Your FTP Server is expecting to hear from the other side in a certain ammount of time, if it doesn't then the connection will "Time Out"
[16:10] <Slart> Ascavasaion: sound juicer doesn't work in gnome?
[16:10] <SolarisBoy>  is there any snapshot feature of ext3 on ubuntu?
[16:10] <exia_> thanks!
[16:10] <misteralexander> Slart: Yeah, I did open it . . . and it is just wget commands.  Do you know anything about the dependencies?
[16:11] <zak__> sebsebseb: how to start tightvnc manually?
[16:11] <SolarisBoy> tightvnc & ?
[16:11] <Slart> misteralexander: if the dependencies get "marked" too I think they will be included.. but if you go back far enough it will depend on almost everything that is in the default install..
[16:11] <lesshaste>  I just installed kile but when I go to Build->Compile it doesn't bring down any options. none of compile, convert, view or other show anything
[16:11] <sebsebseb> zak__: don't use that
[16:11] <Slart> misteralexander: so if it did recursive dependencies you would end up downloading all the packages in the install cd..
[16:11] <misteralexander> Slart, Okay, thanks.
[16:11] <sebsebseb> zak__: x11vnc :)
[16:11] <misteralexander> Slart: Okay, thanks.
[16:12] <zak__> sebsebseb: typed x11vnc , then ?
[16:12] <Ascavasaion> thanks Slart that nis the one I was looking for... I installed 8.1 and it never [reinstalled it and I could not recall the name.  thank you man.
[16:12] <Slart> Ascavasaion: you're welcome
[16:12] <sebsebseb> zak__: read the bot links or something
[16:13] <lianimator> hi, I used to have this nautilus script to convert any image to jpeg, and to png.. I can't seem to google it again. someone direct me in the right direction please
[16:14] <erxin> my compiz effects still not working can anyone help me out ?
[16:14] <zak__> sebsebseb: vncviewer+ip doesn t start anything
[16:16] <misteralexander> Slart:  What is a "Recursive Dependensies"?  And I checked, Synaptic does (at least for me) auto select dependencies.
[16:17] <bazhang> erxin, which effects
[16:17] <detrix> hello all.  I have a new nvidia card.  its not saving my current settings.  I am using the nvidia X server settings manager.
[16:17] <dunks__> run it as root i think
[16:17] <erxin> they worked fine for me but now none of all arent working
[16:17] <bastidrazor> detrix, gksudo nvidia-settings
[16:17] <exortus> hello all
[16:17] <stevecoh1> want to upgrade Ubuntu 8.04 to 9.04.  Ubuntu says this is not supported must upgrade to 8.10 first.  But ubuntu download pages only offer 8.04 and 9.04, not 8.10.  wtf?
[16:17] <bazhang> erxin, which effects please clarify
[16:17] <Slart> misteralexander: I meant for example,  you install openoffice, it depends on gnome, gnome depends on X and so on..
[16:17] <ziroday> !upgrade | stevecoh1
[16:18] <bazhang> stevecoh1, watch the language please
[16:18] <erxin> shaking windows for example
[16:19] <Myrtti> stevecoh1: if you're upgrading with the internal tool, you don't need any "download pages"
[16:19] <erUSUL> JoeM: sorry been away... to use the bios raid you need to install with desktopcd if you plan to use linux software raid (recommended) any of the two should work
[16:19] <detrix> bastidrazor: thanx.  I think that will work.
[16:19] <bazhang> erxin, right click on desktop, change desktop background, then go to tab marked 'visual effects'
[16:19] <erUSUL> !raid | JoeM
[16:20] <xtalmath> so I tied using fstab, it just seems like boottime mount command options... and the permissions faq is about setting permissions... file permissions has a paragraph on volumes, but it refers to umask in fstab faq. There umask is only about ntfs and vfat, not about ext3
[16:20] <misteralexander> Slart:  That's exactly what I mean, everything seems to depend on everything else . . . it's beyond irritating . . . that you know of (or anyone reading this), is there some magical thing to type [  sudo apt-get install depedencies ndiswrapper  ] to just make it work?  I'll be trying to satisfy dependencies for days if I do it one by one!
[16:20] <erxin> rightclick dont work on my desktop thats strange too
[16:20] <bastidrazor> detrix, be sure to save to X configuration when done.. there is an option to do that. that will ensure it saves. you will also get prompted to merge or make new xorg.conf .. i tend to make new but that is your call
[16:20] <bazhang> erxin, right click does not work? what about alt-f2
[16:20] <JoeM> erUSUL Trying it through the alternate cd as software raid now... hopefully this will work
[16:20] <karamella> hi indus
[16:21] <erxin> Alt F2 works, but i need right click on my desktop too to create quicklaunchers
[16:21] <Slart> misteralexander: why is that irritating? apt-get will only install the stuff you need to run the program..  the base stuff should already be installed
[16:21] <karamella> r u still here
[16:22] <bazhang> erxin, your mouse is not functioning at all?
[16:22] <erxin> mouse works fine
[16:22]  * {H} &
[16:22]  * {H} &2
[16:22] <xtalmath> erUSUL: still not clear how to set volume permissions for ext3 (whether fstab or manual mount)
[16:22] <FloodBot2> {H}: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:22] <ziroday> !offline | misteralexander
[16:22] <bazhang> {H}, stop that
[16:22] <erxin> but there is somehting wrong with my desktop and compiz settings i think, there is no function to reset
[16:23] <bazhang> erxin, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[16:23] <erUSUL> xtalmath: easiest way is to create folders on the volume as root then give those folders the apropiate owners permissions
[16:23] <erUSUL> !permissions | xtalmath
[16:23] <{H}> umm, ok
[16:23] <erxin> my numeric keys right on m y kebyoard dont work anymore too
[16:23] <xtalmath> I just went to the page, but I wouldnt like to have to change to root everytime I make a folder on the drive
[16:23] <bazhang> erxin, please try this command first
[16:24] <erxin> i did
[16:24] <misteralexander> Slart:  Yeah, that's what I was thinking.  For instance, the target computer needs "dpkg", which has nearly 30 dependencies itself.  Either I download just dpkg, or I (to "save" time) download them all, and THEN each of THOSE things has 20 dependencies, that's the irritating part.
[16:24] <bastidrazor> misteralexander,  you could also look at package.ubuntu.com .. for example   http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9  notice it shows the dependencies
[16:24] <techqbert> Is there any feasible way to stream over NFS/OpenVPN a 480p video on a consumer-grade comcast line withou tthe video stuttering?  I'd like to downsample in flash
[16:24] <erxin> some windows opened and closed, i returned back to this window
[16:24] <bazhang> erxin, now try right clicking
[16:24] <Slart> misteralexander: ahh.. but you create the synaptic script on the computer that needs the packages... then it will just download the stuff that it needs
[16:25] <erxin> nope it dont work
[16:25] <Graviton> erxin: Try checking if mouse keys have been enabled in System > Preferences > Mouse Keys, it has happened to me several times
[16:25] <erUSUL> xtalmath: other option is to change the owner of the mount point
[16:25] <xtalmath> chown the mount directory?
[16:25] <misteralexander> Okay, i'll just hold my breath & try it.
[16:25] <bazhang> erxin, is this problematic hardware? bluetooth kb and mouse? when did this problem first flare up?
[16:25] <misteralexander> Slart: Okay, i'll just hold my breath & try it.
[16:26] <JoeM> grrr, someone hates me
[16:27] <MrPockets> I've got a dynamic IP
[16:27] <MrPockets> on Ubuntu
[16:28] <MrPockets> and i need to set it staticlaly, in the CLi
[16:28] <MrPockets> halp?
[16:28] <wers> quick question: I need to setup a static IP add for my iPod touch. what would be a valid one? I tried 11.0.0.1 . it was really stuck to that IP but it broke my internet connection
[16:29] <Slart> wers: 192.168.X.X should work nicely
[16:29] <tvburger> Hi all, I need to install Xdmx, but can't find the package for it. What is it called?
[16:29] <Graviton> MrPockets: edit /etc/network/interfaces as described here: http://www.sematopia.com/?p=50
[16:29] <Slart> !find xdmx
[16:29] <wers> Slart, any other rule? no 1 or 0 no avoid?
[16:29] <meglo> I downloaded gstreamer codecs for mp3 through Totem and they play fine, but for some reason Rhythmbox is choking on mp3's when I try to import them: "The GStreamer plugins to decode "MP3" files cannot be found"
[16:29] <zeroXten> hmm
[16:30] <need_help> wers u need to use private address not public
[16:30] <meglo> I guess I'll see what happens after the importing is done.
[16:30] <need_help> wers as i see
[16:30] <need_help> hello need help was studying i need to know Xinetd.d use for what? if i put file in this directory? Thx =)
[16:30] <meglo> But it is filling up with annoying errors.
[16:30] <Slart> wers: 192.168.0.1 is a good start.. I don't think you're allowed to have 192.168.0.0  though
[16:30] <tvburger> ubottu: to bad, not on my machine. which ubuntu version?
[16:30] <bazhang> tvburger, xdmx in the repos
[16:30] <Slart> !info xdmx | tvburger
[16:31] <wers> Slart, got that. just have to avoid having the same ip as other devices. thanks
[16:31] <meglo> It is also trying to search for codecs on other non-media files from MIME type... they should have a white-list of proper media files it doesn't import improperly.
[16:33] <Brekitz> I open Ubuntu Studio controls. I close Ubuntu Studio controls. I try to open it again and it tells me (in so many words) that it's already running. No fair.
[16:33] <MrPockets> God it. Thanks friend!
[16:33] <Graviton> No problem
[16:33] <tvburger> bit of new be question: so it's available, but not on my hardy version. How to get the 'optional' package?
[16:33] <wers> Slart, it also broke my internet access :| if i use more conventional ip adds they dont remain static
[16:33] <whatvn> Brekitz, try to "grep" it, then kill its process
[16:34] <Slart> wers: try using 192.168.1.1 instead.. 192.168.0.1 is a common default for home routers and such
[16:34] <need_help> wers what the ip of the ipod ? or the one u r trying to connect with ?
[16:34] <bazhang> tvburger, not available in hardy repos
[16:35] <JoeM> is it possible to grow a software RAID 0 array, ie add disks without losing data?
[16:35] <bk|work> I have a question abouta dvd version of ubuntu or a cd version of ubuntu, whats the difference between the isos?
[16:35] <Brekitz> what's the process name?
[16:35] <Slart> bk|work: more packages on the dvd.. that's all afaik
[16:35] <whatvn> Brekitz, ps -ef|grep -i control or something like that
[16:35] <bazhang> tvburger, intrepid is the earliest it appears
[16:36] <whatvn> Brekitz, I dont use Ubuntu studio center
[16:36] <Martin31> sebsebseb were you the one who helped me with my partitions/separatehome
[16:36] <Emery> is 9.04 the newest version ?
[16:36] <Slart> Emery: yes
[16:36] <bazhang> Emery, yep
[16:36] <wers> need_help, i trie 192.168.1.107, 192.168.0.1, etc. the one i'm trying to connect with? usual 192.168.1.1 but i'm confused because we have a wifi connected to a wired router :|
[16:37] <Slart> Emery: 9.10 will be available in month 10 of 2009.. ie october
[16:37] <xtalmath> erUSUL: thanks, indeed sudo chown -R username mountpoint
[16:37] <Paddy_NI_> Is there anything apart from running a constant ping that could keep my mobile broadband connection alive or from going idle (disconnecting)?
[16:37] <sebsebseb> Martin31: I don't remember your name, but I done that kind of thing before
[16:37] <whatvn> wers, which one is dhcp server?
[16:37] <Brekitz> 29767 29749  0 11:36 pts/0    00:00:00 grep -i control     ...now what?
[16:37] <Emery> Slart, ok
[16:37] <need_help> wers if the AP have ip 192.168.1.1 and subnet /24 , then use ip: 192.168.1.2 and subnet 255.255.255.0 and default gateway: 192.168.1.1
[16:38] <Martin31> my name before was martin__
[16:38] <sebsebseb> Martin31: helped people with that kind of thing
[16:38] <bk|work> Slart: ok, but if I download the dvd iso of ubuntu server (im wanting to use LAMP) itll just give me more packages right, is it a waste of space or are certain things useful (like ill want ssh and other sorts)
[16:38] <Martin31> but i did the separatehome tutorial and i still have low free space
[16:38] <VeDosis> can anyone point me in the right direction for saslauthd help?
[16:38] <Martin31> but i have another partition now formatted in ext3 with 20 gb space
[16:38] <fccf> need_help: you might try subnet 255.255.255.1
[16:38] <donks> if any one could help, i have wiped the ubuntu partition on my pc, getting the grub error17, i have d/l the net book remix and it wont brun to a disk im using mac it keeps giving me an error tryed super grub boot disc, also tryed various windows cds and different drives to make sure, i am really stuck here any syggestions?
[16:39] <need_help> fccf huh! there is no such like this subnet
[16:39] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ah ha just now you mean,  right  I ended up doing something else
[16:39] <Slart> bk|work: if you have a normal internet connection I would say downloading the dvd isn't that useful.. you can get the same packages (or newer
[16:39] <Slart> bk|work: if you have a normal internet connection I would say downloading the dvd isn't that useful.. you can get the same packages (or newer) from the online repositories
[16:39] <Martin31> sebsebseb: hah but can you help me ? :S
[16:39] <bk|work> Slart: ok, ill try them both out and see if there is a difference, thanks
[16:40] <sebsebseb> Martin31: probably
[16:40] <fanta_> Hello
[16:40] <Martin31> when i go to computer and right click Filesystem and go to Properties it shows free space 6.8 MB
[16:40] <sebsebseb> Martin31: you made a seperate home?
[16:40] <Martin31> yes
[16:40] <Brekitz> whatvn, What does "grep" mean?
[16:41] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok upload a screenshot of gparted and give me the link
[16:41] <roobly_roo> Where could I get an ext3 driver for Windows?
[16:41] <Martin31> ok
[16:41] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: why do you want it?
[16:41] <whatvn> Brekitz, this process named ubuntustudio-controls
[16:41] <humbolt> I am having huge trouble running jaunty on an acer revo (with nvidia ION chipset). WLAN does not work and I am not able to use nvidia's proprietary drivers.
[16:41] <hrehf-> hrmm, i'm trying to compile the intel video driver, but autoconf fails with a libdrm >= 2.4.11 dependency ("No package 'libdrm' found"). Anything i can do about that?
[16:41] <roobly_roo> sebsebseb: So I can mount and read ext3 file systems...
[16:41] <whatvn> Brekitz, man grep
[16:41] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: well yeah, but why do you want to from Windows?
[16:42] <Brekitz> hmm.. makes sense
[16:42] <imbezol> anyone know if quotas work on ext4 in jaunty? i found this and my version matches the non working version: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quota/+bug/334474
[16:42] <roland> so how do you enable WMA playback in Rhythmbox?
[16:42] <imbezol> it would seem like something from may should have been fixed if it's a simple version bump but i can't get them to work
[16:42] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: also I would suggest not using that driver  to  read  your /    or  /home if you have a seperate  home,  only to use it for an actsaul data only partiton, which you would share between the two OS's
[16:42] <roobly_roo> sebsebseb: This isn't a question of why I want to, but where I can find such a driver.
[16:42] <ikt> roland: are gstreamer codecs installed?
[16:42] <Martin31> sebsebseb: http://i39.tinypic.com/2s6mz9u.png
[16:43] <dmsuperman> How can I see which people are connected to my SSH server?
[16:43] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: well  I just gave you a good tip,  also some people  woudn't even recommend that driver in the first place
[16:43] <sebsebseb> !ext3 |  roobly_roo
[16:43] <tvburger> should I use 32 or 64 bit version for Intel Core 2 Extreme CPU X9650  ?
[16:43] <sebsebseb> tvburger: how much RAM?
[16:43] <ikt> dmsuperman: the command: who
[16:43] <sebsebseb> tvburger: and you sure the computer does 64bit?
[16:43] <Slart> tvburger: how much memory
[16:44] <Martin31> sebsebseb: http://i39.tinypic.com/2s6mz9u.png
[16:44] <tvburger> Currently 4GB.
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yeah I got it the first time
[16:44] <Slart> tvburger: 64bit then
[16:44] <tvburger> ah. ok.
[16:44] <sebsebseb> Martin31: I was on the verge of going on, when you gave a second time
[16:44] <Martin31> oh sorry
[16:44] <sebsebseb> np
[16:44] <Martin31> thought you had missed it xD
[16:45] <roland> ikt: there are lots of gstreamer* stuff installed
[16:45] <sebsebseb> Martin31: your partitions are pretty wrong really
[16:46] <fanta_> whats a good dock to use..
[16:46] <donks> any help please?
[16:46] <sebsebseb> fanta_: avant window manager or cario dock which they say is better
[16:46] <sebsebseb> !details |  donks
[16:46] <Martin31> yeah i know i always sucked at hard drive stuff
[16:46] <roobly_roo> sebsebseb: I appreciate your concern, and more so appreciate the link.  I'm doing something outside of the normal practice.
[16:47] <sebsebseb> roobly_roo: which is?
[16:47] <ikt> roland: if you search add/remove programs for wma, is that particular plugin installed? I've never had a problem playing wma files tbh
[16:47] <ikt> at last resort I'd just plain convert them to mp3
[16:48] <roobly_roo> Testing my companies software's abillity to mount different file systems from backups of virtual machines.  My main concern was with UFS, but I also want ext3 and reiserfs.
[16:48] <sebsebseb> Martin31: new to Ubuntu?
[16:48] <donks> sebsebseb, ok i deleted the ubuntu partition now i get a grub erroe 17, i d/l the net bk remix but with my mac i cannot get it to burn to a disc, also tryed my win discs, no luck and also super grub cd no luck also im really stuck with this
[16:48] <sebsebseb> donks: oh this is on a Mac?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> donks: on  a PC  it's simple,  you just  install  Windows for example, and it goes over  Grub
[16:49] <donks> sebsebseb: the linux was on a pc
[16:49] <Martin31> sebsebseb: very. been using winxp for like 6 years
[16:49] <sebsebseb> donks: you got rid of Ubuntu?
[16:49] <sebsebseb> donks: why?
[16:49] <donks> sebsebseb: my pc wont boot from the win disc, i have changed the boot order and tryed 2 drives
[16:49] <Martin31> still not completely understanding all the ext3 home and root stuff
[16:49] <Guest413> hello all
[16:50] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok you know NTFS or Fat32 in Windows?
[16:50] <Roland> how to make rhythmox play WMA files? gstreamer+plugins seem to be installed
[16:50] <donks> sebsebseb: i was going to install win 7 so i re partitioned my second drive then i was going to put both on
[16:50] <sebsebseb> Roland:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras that should take care of that, as well as other things
[16:50] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yes
[16:50] <sebsebseb> donks: ok install Windows first
[16:50] <sebsebseb> donks: then put Ubuntu back on, that's the easiest way to do it
[16:51] <Roland> sebsebseb: rrestricted extras are installed
[16:51] <donks> sebsebseb: it wont install that the prob cant get any cd to boot just get the insert media error
[16:51] <Ahadiel> Roland, Do you have w32codecs installed?
[16:51] <sebsebseb> donks: no CD's will boot up at all?
[16:51] <donks> sebsebseb: thats right
[16:52] <sebsebseb> donks: ok sounds like a hardware error   tell  them that in ##hardware
[16:52] <Roland> Ahadiel: yes, w64codecs are installed
[16:52] <Ahadiel> Roland, Hrm...
[16:52] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yep those are the file systems
[16:52] <fanta_> how would  i go about mapping my laptop drives to my pc?
[16:52] <Ahadiel> Roland, Have you tried any other players the aforementioned wma files?
[16:53] <Ahadiel> Roland, with the**
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Ext3 is the current default  for most Linux distributions,  however  Ext4  is already the default in Fedora 11 :)  and will be in the next version of Ubuntu
[16:53] <sebsebseb> Martin31: the default in next Ubuntu, but for full support people need to clean install
[16:53] <Martin31> sebsebseb: so ill need to reformat when the next ubuntu comes out to get ext4
[16:54] <sebsebseb> Martin31: for full suppourt yes
[16:54] <sigvelien> im trying to install the artwiz fonts in ubuntu, and everything is fine, until the last part, where i type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" - then nothing happens. shouldnt i be prompted some questions?
[16:54] <donks> sebsebseb: is there anything else i could try?
[16:54] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, what do you mean by "full support" ?
[16:54] <kantxx> anyone know why wbinfo -u cant find users until i restart wbinfo service?
[16:54] <scunizi> sigvelien: nope
[16:54] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: the  Ext3  to Ext4  isn't quite the real thing
[16:54] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, why?
[16:55] <sigvelien> hmm? according to this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-artwiz-fonts-in-ubuntu.html - i should
[16:55] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well the only problem i really have now is not enough disk space. i tried to do the separate home but i still have only like 6 mb free
[16:55] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: Google it or something,  I have read articles and such,  or  search http://www.linuxtoday.com for the Ext4 articles or something,  I am helping  Martin31 :)
[16:56] <hrehf-> I'm trying to compile the intel video driver, but autoconf fails with a libdrm >= 2.4.11 dependency ("No package 'libdrm' found"). my libdrm2 package is version "2.4.11+git20090519.f355ad89-0ubuntu0sarvatt~jaunty", but i can't try to switch to 2.4.11-0ubuntu1 because that wants to uninstall e.g. xorg :/ anything i can do to have the autoconf script run?
[16:56] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yep we are going to get all that sorted out
[16:56] <Ahadiel> kklimonda, http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ext4
[16:56] <Roland> Ahadiel: ok, tried Exaile, and it plays
[16:56] <Martin31> sweet
[16:56] <Ahadiel> kklimonda, They mention the pros/cons of converting ext3 to ext4
[16:56] <Brekitz> whatvn, launchpad Bug #395803
[16:56] <imbezol> is it possible to add the karmic repo for only one package?
[16:56] <Ahadiel> Roland, Hrm, I think Exaile uses gstreamer as well
[16:56] <sebsebseb> Martin31: before you can do proper partition stuff, you need to be on the Ubuntu Live CD really though
[16:57] <Ahadiel> Roland, Weird.
[16:57] <sebsebseb> Martin31: for example you can't resize the /    when Ubuntu is running it
[16:57] <whatvn> Brekitz, I dont think it's a bug, just an process didn't fully stop
[16:57] <Martin31> sebsebseb: i know thats what i did when i took the 20gb from one partition and made it into a new ext3 partition
[16:57] <Roland> Ahadiel: after trying to play a random wma faile in rhythmbox you can't play any other filetype until you restart the application
[16:57] <scunizi> sigvelien: that was written 2 years ago. subpixel font handling etc has improved a lot.. those same options can be see in one of the menu items off System>Admin... The real question is DO you have access to the fonts?
[16:57] <sebsebseb> imbezol: don't do that,  things can mess up
[16:57] <Martin31> sebsebseb: and after that i changed that into the new home
[16:57] <whatvn> Brekitz, just kill its process and everything will be ok
[16:57] <Ahadiel> Roland, could be a bug
[16:58] <Ahadiel> Roland, Maybe check launchpad
[16:58] <kklimonda> Ahadiel, at least extents are working when you convert ext3 to ext4.. and extents aren't compatible with ext3 so the reasoning in Cons of converting isn't right
[16:58] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok your on a Live CD now?
[16:58] <imbezol> sebsebseb: then what's the proper way to install that one package?
[16:58] <sebsebseb> imbezol: which package is it? and there may be a ppa for it
[16:58] <GJ> Anyone here used Kile before to create LaTeX files? I just installed it via 'add-remove' and when I try to preview my code, I get kinda stuck. When I click preview selection or compile, or anything, I have no clue at all about how to view it
[16:58] <sigvelien> scunizi, yea. i do
[16:58] <Martin31> sebsebseb: no, ill be right back, have to reboot ;)
[16:58] <imbezol> sebsebseb: quota
[16:58] <sebsebseb> !ppa >  imbezol
[16:58] <imbezol> sebsebseb: what's a ppa?
[16:58] <sebsebseb> imbezol: I haven't heard of your program
[16:59] <sebsebseb> Martinp23: ok
[16:59] <scunizi> sigvelien: good.. check this link for future reference.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[16:59] <Kjell> GJ: try alt + f2
[16:59] <imbezol> sebsebseb: quota is a standard linux utility to manage user and group quota
[16:59] <vise> Hi.. How do i insert a binary file1 into a binary file0 at a given offset?
[17:00]  * dreimark ubuntu-desktop (from kubuntu) seems to have unresolved dependcies currently
[17:00] <imbezol> sebsebseb: and ppa doesn't sound like what i want.. i'm not uploading anything.. it's something that's already fixed in karmic
[17:00] <sebsebseb> imbezol: no ppa's are so you can get later versions of programs,  without having to wait for the next Ubuntu release
[17:00] <derekS> i want to see how much we use? i want to see how much I use?
[17:01] <need_help`> is LVM use as extend parition from 5 and above?
[17:01] <imbezol> need_help`: no.. lvm has little to do with partitions
[17:02] <imbezol> need_help`: you don't even need partitions on the disks
[17:02] <imbezol> need_help`: though you can add partitions as PVs if you like
[17:02] <GJ> But Kjell, when I have some tex code written, and when I compile it or anything, where do I view it? Shouldn't need a command for that :D
[17:02] <need_help`> imbezol  thx got any link can help me to understand it?
[17:03] <Kjell> GJ: you can use kdvi to view the files you compiled
[17:03] <CowboyXhema> if you want, i can write that
[17:03] <Roland> Ahadiel: seems like it's a known bug that rhythmbox doesn't play wma files when crossfading is enabled.(9.04)
[17:03] <imbezol> need_help`: if you google LVM howto there are tonnes of them
[17:03] <Roland> Ahadiel: thnx anyway :P
[17:03] <GJ> I can't preview them directly from inside Kile?
[17:03] <imbezol> need_help`: you need to get a grip on the basic layout of LVM and then it'll be easy
[17:04] <Ahadiel> Roland, np
[17:04] <imbezol> need_help`: PVs, VGs, LVs,
[17:04] <Kjell> GJ: kile will open kdvi
[17:04] <Martin31> sebsebseb: okay im on the live cd
[17:04] <wers> how do i know my dhcp range?
[17:05] <Kjell> GJ: kile just edit the code
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Ubuntu only on there now yes?
[17:05] <CowboyXhema> how can i see the install history of aptitude? what packages where installed/deinstalled when?
[17:05] <Flare183> Did someone ping me?
[17:05] <Martin31> sebsebseb: what do you mean ? I still have a windows partition
[17:05] <alan_> i'm trying to get WEP working with an NDISwrapped wireless card. I think I'm doing something wrong with wpa_supplicant. Would someone be willing to walk me through it?
[17:05] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yes I am wondering what downloads is
[17:06] <DawnLight> in what language are kernel modules written, please?
[17:06] <GJ> Kjell: Don't think I got kdvi installed, leme do some diggin' and try to find if I can set it to fire up another program
[17:06] <Martin31> sebsebseb: I have four hard drives that just the one with ubuntu
[17:06] <th0r> DawnLight: C
[17:06] <scunizi> alan_: why bother.. web is useless.. you'd be better off implementing wireless restrictions by mac address and turning off broadcasting.
[17:06] <evonise`emp> hey guys, i have talker here before on problems while installing: but still my laptop wont install ubuntu from the alternate iso: it freezes at 28%: Preparing cups. what can i do?
[17:06] <DawnLight> thanks th0r
[17:06] <sebsebseb> Martin31: and your NTFS Downloads partition which is being used by Windows and Ubuntu?
[17:06] <Kjell> GJ: you likely have the unifide program then. alt + f1 should open it
[17:07] <Martin31> sebsebseb: the windows partition is on a completely different hard drive. its on /dev/sda1
[17:07] <alan_> scunizi -
[17:07] <Roland> What kind of encryption does the OTR plugin for pidgin use?
[17:07] <JonathanEllis> ﻿Can anyone recommend ﻿an easy to use web development application for someone with limited experience with web development. I did my first website with FrontPage but eventually it broke my site beyond repair and I had to start again from scratchI did a website with html and css but the navigation was a nightmare to maintain as it had to be copied into the top of every page. Before that I used Frontpage until it broke my site. I understand Dream
[17:07] <sebsebseb> Martin31: ok, but is the Downloads partition being used by both OS's?
[17:07] <Brekitz> Okay we're good. Thanks, whatvn
[17:07] <GJ> Kjell: alt f1 or alt f2 just launch up my Programs and Command line from Ubuntu, they're not Kile keys.
[17:08] <Martin31> sebsebseb: I dont think so, its empty anyway
[17:08] <alan_> scunizi - this is my folk's network, and they have a lot of random laptops come through that they want to give immediate access
[17:08] <GJ> Kjell: when using them inside Kile*
[17:08] <alan_> scunizi, but still have some semblance of protection; i know, i've told them too
[17:08] <sebsebseb> Martin31: If  that drive is meant to be your Linux drive, why have you got a NTFS  partition?
[17:08] <netbios139> is it neccesary to be proficient in swahili to install Ubuntu?
[17:08] <bazhang> netbios139, of course not
[17:08] <netbios139> thanks Got
[17:08] <Martin31> sebsebseb: because i dont want to use the whole 1TB for just an ubuntu drive
[17:09] <GJ> Kjell: Aha found how to get it working :) Thanks alot
[17:09] <Kjell> GJ: ok the new viewer is called okular which should be install when you installed kile. otherwise you can use evince to view the files
[17:09] <bullgard4> Does http://paste.debian.net/41167 give a hint why I have only an unidirectional connection to sip:500@ekiga.net?
[17:09] <ratkymarcell> hi! how can I "unmount" a special usb device, which seems to be at /dev/ttyUSB0, and cannot be unmounted, because it dont need to be mounted at all? It's a microcontroller programming unit, and I'd like to have acces to it via a virtualboxed XP. That's why [host] ubuntu has to release it...
[17:09] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yes I thought it would be  something like that, well here's the thing,   most later Linux's can read and write to NTFS no problem, as long as Windows shut it down, but there is also a driver for Windows to read Ext3
[17:09] <GJ> Kjell Yep Okular is what it uses :)
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Martin31: so you might want to change that to an Ext3  partition and use  the driver for Windows,  but it does not really matter that much
[17:10] <JonathanEllis> Damn pressed enter too soon! ﻿Can anyone recommend ﻿an easy to use web development application for someone with limited experience with web development? Back in my Microsoft days I did my first website with FrontPage but eventually it broke my site beyond repair and I had to start again from scratch. So then I used html and css but the navigation was a nightmare to maintain as it had to be copied into the top of every page. I have heard that Qu
[17:10] <netbios139> so there ist Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, but i still haven't found Wubuntu?
[17:10] <sebsebseb> !ext3 |  Martin31
[17:10] <bazhang> netbios139, what is wubuntu
[17:10] <GJ> Or Bubuntu, netbios139 :D
[17:10] <Martin31> sebsebseb: might be a good idea, ill do that
[17:10] <Kjell> GJ: but you can change what it launch it its settup. I find that kdvi is much better for image viewing
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Martin31: It's Windows XP yes?
[17:10] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yes it is
[17:10] <sebsebseb> Martin31: and  I would advice not to let Windows read and write to your  /  or  /home
[17:11] <netbios139> so there ist Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu, but i still haven't found Wubuntu?
[17:11] <GJ> Kjell Ok I'll take a look at that ^
[17:11] <bazhang> netbios139, do you have a support question, or just wish to chat?  #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[17:11] <WDC> Hello
[17:11] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well i really plan on not using windows at all, if i get ubuntu all set up
[17:11] <netbios139> Wubuntu , could be a great Idea for a new Release,
[17:11] <bazhang> !ot > netbios139
[17:11] <WDC> I am having a pretty annoying problem. I just switched OSes, and my old Ubuntu ecryptfs will not mount correctly. Would someone please help?
[17:12] <GJ> Kjell: One more quick question, when I compile the .tex file and stuff it should create some other files too (log file, .aux file etc), where do those end up?
[17:12] <sebsebseb> th0r: Did you see his screenshot?   You didn't have to pm me about his drive,  if you have suggestions for his drive as well,  he may appreciate you telling him
[17:12] <netbios139> I'm using irssi from cmd, now idea how to read private messages!
[17:12] <WDC> netbios139, you use alt+the number of the window
[17:12] <bazhang> netbios139, take chat elsewhere
[17:13] <scunizi> netbios139: alt right arrow to get to the next window.. or alt and the window number
[17:13] <Fenix|work> Greetings and salutations!
[17:13] <sebsebseb> Martin31: you can move data around no problem at the moment?  or onto an external hard disk?
[17:13] <Kjell> GJ: in the same folder .tex file is
[17:13] <wers> Slart, apparently, i needed a one that is not along my dhcp range. so there are two requirements, something that will remain static and is not along the dhcp range. how do I know? hehe
[17:14] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yes i can move it around, but i just cant use the Update Manager because theres no space left
[17:14] <scunizi> wers: if you
[17:14] <WDC> Somebody please help? what's the syntax to mount my private directory
[17:14] <scunizi> wers: if you
[17:14] <Slart> wers: what ip do you have on your desktop computer? type "ifconfig" in a terminal to find out
[17:14] <scunizi> fat fingers
[17:14] <FloodBot2> scunizi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <Slart> hehe.. the bots are coming for you, scunizi ;)
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yeah  I was thinking if   it was worth doing something slightly special  to make  the  9.10 clean install easier, once that's out,   but does not sound like it in this case.   Ok this is easy to sort your partitions out
[17:15] <Martin31> sebsebseb: it doesnt make sense to me that theres no space left, i thought after i did that separate home there would be more
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Martin31: your / is to small way to small that's the issue
[17:15] <wers> Slart, 10.0.0.2
[17:15] <Martin31> sebsebseb: so thats why my separate home didnt work, because i only changed that and not /
[17:15] <wers> scunizi, ?
[17:15] <GJ> Kjell: Ok thanks!
[17:15] <Slart> wers: then go with 10.0.1.1 for your iphone
[17:16] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Ubuntu put's itself and the programs and such on /
[17:16] <sebsebseb> Martin31: /  would be like  C  in  Windows with  Home being D
[17:16] <Slart> wers: you can basically change anything but the 10... so 10.2.3.4 would also work
[17:16] <Kjell> GJ: btw was it alt + 1 or alt + f1?
[17:16] <scunizi> wers: if you're trying to set a static ip in a dhcp environment you should be able to do that.  Make the computer that is static high up in the ip range for dhcp on your router.. so if the last address is 192.168.0.200 .. then make it that. In other words, keep static addresses high up and let dhcp take care of the lower addresses ..
[17:16] <meoblast001> hi.. i'm very confused with the CGI in Ubuntu
[17:16] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well i let ubuntu have a whole 1 tb drive to make all its partitions on i wonder why it made its own / partition so small >S
[17:16] <GJ> Kjell: Forgot to check honestly, but alt+f1 fired up my Ubuntu applications menu (from the panel)
[17:16] <sebsebseb> Martin31: yeah those guided installs aren't perfect, they can go wrong
[17:17] <scunizi> meoblast001: ?
[17:17] <miik> :)
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Martin31: a lot more control if you  set up the partitions yourself :)
[17:17] <meoblast001> suppose i have a file irc.cgi at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/cgiirc and want to access it.... do i go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
[17:17] <Kjell> GJ: alt+1 then
[17:17] <wers> Slart and scunizi thanks :)
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Martin31: how much RAM do you have by the way?
[17:17] <meoblast001> i'm getting 404s
[17:17] <Martin31> sebsebseb: 2 GB
[17:17] <sebsebseb> Martin31: it's also given you a really stupid sized swap
[17:18] <Martin31> sebsebseb: yeah i read that something about that
[17:18] <daysaver> hello
[17:18] <Martin31> sebsebseb: what should i change it to be
[17:18] <wers> Slart, cant go online with 10.2.3.4
[17:18] <wers> this is really odd
[17:18] <sebsebseb> Martin31: SWAP  well  in Windows it's known as virtual memory,  with 2GB RAM it really isn't needed,  unless your going to attempt to hibernate/sleep/suspend and then it should be double your RAM
[17:18] <derekS> is there a a tool like powertop to estimate desktop power usage for an old desktop?
[17:19] <Slart> wers: are you using some kind of router/gateway thingy?
[17:19] <Martin31> sebsebseb: well im not gonna hibernate and all that
[17:19] <Martin31> so is the swap fine for me as it is _
[17:19] <Slart> derekS: powertop should work for older desktops too.. or it doesn't ?
[17:19] <sebsebseb> Martin31: well then you can just delete it, and you should still be fine,  I ran  without  SWAP and 1GB  RAM before, pretty well indeed
[17:19] <wers> Slart, i have a wifi router connected to a wired router which is connected to my dsl
[17:19] <sebsebseb> !swap |  Martin31
[17:19] <derekS> Slart: i don't think apcm is working...
[17:20] <sebsebseb> Martin31: Do what you want regarding SWAP,  it really isn't important in your case
[17:20] <derekS> Slart: powertop tells me it can't get any readouts?
[17:20] <karamella> hi indus
[17:20] <zini3> I just had a very strange crash. Suddenly the screen went white (and the NumLock key locked up). I guess some of the system was still running, because I could hear Pidgin sound effects. But there was no way out of it and so I had to physically shut the box down.
[17:20] <Slart> wers: it's probably something that the router is doing then
[17:20] <derekS> Slart: err acpi
[17:20] <Slart> derekS: oh... yea.. that might make sense.. not sure if there is anything else out there.. I've only used powertop myself
[17:20] <scunizi> wers: where did you put that number 10.2.3.4?
[17:20] <zini3> Is there any way to find out what has happened?
[17:20] <Martin31> sebsebseb: i'm just going to leave the swap there, it doesnt bother me
[17:20] <karamella> any one can tell me how to make clean up system
[17:20] <wers> scunizi, static ip for ipod touch
[17:21] <derekS> Slart: " Detailed C-state information is only available on Mobile CPUs (laptops)"
[17:21] <netbios139> anyone know a good tutorial how to deploy XEN on Ubuntu?
[17:21] <C-S-B__> zini3: check dmesg?
[17:21] <sebsebseb> Martin31: and the extended  is a container.   as  far as I know you don't really need one unless having four or more partitions
[17:21] <scunizi> wers: that's not a valid ip address. try 192.168.0.119 and see what happens
[17:21] <sebsebseb> Martin31: however those guided installs seem to like to make extended's if people need them or not
[17:22] <zini3> C-S-B__: How do I do that? (only on Linux for 48h now)
[17:22] <sebsebseb> Martin31: so extended sometimes has to be used, because of the amount of partitions,  and  then they go in the extended
[17:22] <scunizi> wers: depending on how the router defaults you might need to 192.168.1.119
[17:22] <C-S-B__> zini3:  dmesg | tail
[17:22] <C-S-B__> that will show you some of the last log entries
[17:22] <sebsebseb> Martin31: it was suggested by that other person,  to  have a seperate home, but you don't really need one
[17:23] <Martin31> sebsebseb: im formatting my old windows partition and reattaching it to the other partition on that drive, and it says 3 hours remaining :(
[17:23] <wers> scunizi, still cant go online. i'm on a netgear. it's ip is 10.0.0.1 connected to a linksys wired router 192.168.1.1
[17:23] <sebsebseb> Martin31: normalley  I would  make my   /   about  12GB,  and then have a big seperate home
[17:23] <zini3> C-S-B__: http://pastebin.com/m6d95729f
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Martin31: the downloads partition or what do you mean?
[17:24] <Martin31> sebsebseb: what is the separate home for, why is the default one not good enough _
[17:24] <C-S-B__> wers: have you got your gateways correct? why do you have them configured on different networks
[17:24] <sebsebseb> Martin31: formatting means removing data!
[17:24] <scunizi> wers: the netgear is probably not acting as the dhcp server ..the linksys is.
[17:24] <Martin31> sebsebseb: no its on a different drive, and i dont want the windows anymore, and i have all the data backed up
[17:24] <wers> scunizi, btw, the netgear is the wireless, in case i didnt state correctly
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Martin31: your / is to small it's as simple as that, it's just  over  2GB
[17:25] <Martin31> okay, and since i already made a separate home should i keep that or move back _
[17:25] <th0r>  Martin31 with a separate home directory you can totally reinstall ubuntu and not lose any of your configs or data
[17:25] <wers> C-S-B__, i dont know. sorry. hehe
[17:25] <sebsebseb> Martin31: really  /'s should be about 8GB,   with netbooks being the exception when they only have like 4GB space, but also there's a special version for netbooks anyway
[17:25] <C-S-B__> zini3: nothing bad in your log... you can look through them all in administration ->log file viewer
[17:26] <C-S-B__> wers: i would recommend getting all your devices on the same network.
[17:26] <Martin31> okay so i will keep my separate home for the next ubuntu
[17:26] <C-S-B__> 192.168.1.0 network would suffice
[17:26] <sebsebseb> Martin31: it's fine to keep that seperate home for now, as long as Ubuntu is using it no problem
[17:26] <meglo> What are the standard programs for ripping and burning disks? Versions before Jaunty had Brasero and Sound Juicer... but these didn't seem to install for 9.04. Is the functionality now embedded with Nautilus or something?
[17:26] <scunizi> wers: yea.. I got that.. typically when you have a seperate wireless adaptor connected to a wired router, the wireless needs to be in a "re-broadcasting" type mode.. I forgot the actual term.. but basically the wireless gets it's ip and the ip for all connected devices from the primary router responsible for that.. ie your linksys
[17:26] <Martin31> anyways thanks for the help sebsebseb im going to eat dinner now
[17:27] <th0r> meglo: brasero is still there, and I use acidrip for dvds and grip for cds
[17:27] <C-S-B__> wers: as scunizi says, best to have just one dhcp server running
[17:27] <sebsebseb> Martin31: no  you will start over  when 9.10 is out,   guided installs  will do Ext4 by default :)   ,but as I hope you have learnt now, you get much more control  when setting up partitions yourself,  so you will probably do that :)   oh and when I do that,  I tend to  set things up in gparted a bit first, then finnish off in manual install
[17:28] <meglo> th0r: Ok, Brasero is still there. Did Sound Juicer/Audio CD Extractor come with your default install, though? Did you replace it with those programs or did you just add them for lack of the application(or just them being superior?
[17:28] <wers> scunizi, so my ipod touch ip should be based on the wired linksys  right? but all the 192.168 IPs cant go online on my ipod while 10.0.x.x IPs dont remain static :|
[17:28] <th0r> meglo: I installed gnome but run xfce for day to day. I did not delete soundjuicer and it isn't in the menus, so I assume it isn't in gnome either.
[17:28] <wers> C-S-B__, how do I do that?
[17:29] <zini3> C-S-B__: Would this qualify as something bad (in my Log?) http://pastebin.com/m2d827159
[17:29] <th0r> meglo: brasero was there by default...it is I think the default cd/dvd burning software for gnome
[17:29] <th0r> meglo: I think I did have to install acidrip and grip postfacto
[17:29] <meglo> th0r: Interesting. Thanks. Nautilus from GNOME can burn discs it seems, so I suppose Canonical thought Sound Juicer was redundant?
[17:29] <bullgard4> Does http://paste.debian.net/41167 give a hint why I have only an unidirectional connection to sip:500@ekiga.net?
[17:29] <C-S-B__> zini3 segfaults are bad, but im not sure whats causing them...
[17:30] <C-S-B__> zini3: if it just happened the once, i wouldnt worry so much.
[17:30] <forceflo1> !firefox3.5
[17:30] <zini3> C-S-B__: 3rd time now. Twice in a row today and once yesterday
[17:30] <forceflo1> !firefox 3.5
[17:30] <hzlocky>  hello, how to defin which application is running on port 2 on my machine
[17:30] <albech> is the ubuntu remix only different in the way the desktop is designed?
[17:30] <forceflo1> aww.
[17:31] <C-S-B__> wers: i havent the time at the moment, but essentially use your browser to go to the config page of your ap and router etc and configure from there.
[17:31] <maximo> !hello \ sebsebserb
[17:31] <shani^> Hello friends
[17:31] <maximo> !hello
[17:31] <kbrosnan> !ff35 > forceflo1
[17:31] <C-S-B__> wers: if your stil having trouble tomorrow, i might have a bit of time to sit you through it.
[17:31] <scunizi> wers: the linksys on the general setup page allows you to tell it how many addresses or the range of addresses that are allowed.  It usually defaults to 20 or so.  That would be the entire range the router will allow. the netgear needs to be in (I think its called) a bridged mode.. log into it's setup screen and poke around.. or google.. this really is a #hardware issue and OT for this channel
[17:31] <meglo> th0r: Sorry, I meant Nautilus can rip discs now it seems**, not burning discs. Brasero is still there for this reason.
[17:31] <wers> C-S-B__, thanks :) i'll research more about it. and I hate netgear. lol
[17:31] <C-S-B__> essentially, you dont want the ap to be giving out dhcp address, just the main router.
[17:32] <th0r> meglo: I use Thunar in xfce, and to be honest would use it in gnome as well due to the config possibilities
[17:32] <C-S-B__> wers: and you want them both on the same network. (i use 192.168.1.0/24)
[17:32] <shani^>  Very strange problem in ubuntu 8.10, after security update the system went into read only file system , i hv found many tutorial and remount the harddisk, but now i have the same situtation at startup , and ubuntu misses to remount the harddisk, can any one help me and tell me how i can remount the hard disk on boot. thanx
[17:33] <C-S-B__> wers: the modem will be the default gateway
[17:33] <wers> scunizi, okay. one last thing, i tinker with the linksys or netgear?
[17:33] <Maximo> sebsebseb: hello
[17:33] <scunizi> wers: netgear
[17:33] <meglo> th0r: I was running xubuntu, but it wasn't as powerful(but it was fine to use) as GNOME + related stuff. I'd use Nautilus because of the intense integration still, but people have their preferences and Thunar is a very good file manager.
[17:33] <sebsebseb> Maximo: hi
[17:33] <meoblast001> this is confusing
[17:34] <wers> scunizi, C-S-B__ thanks a lot!
[17:34] <th0r> meglo: I am old school...I want a program to do one thing and only one thing, and I expect it to do that flawlessly
[17:34] <meoblast001> is /usr/lib/cgi-bin the default cgi-bin in Ubuntu?
[17:34] <shani^> Very strange problem in ubuntu 8.10, after security update the system went into read only file system , i hv found many tutorial and remount the harddisk, but now i have the same situtation at startup , and ubuntu misses to remount the harddisk, can any one help me and tell me how i can remount the hard disk on boot. thanx
[17:34] <scunizi> wers: np
[17:34] <FloridaGuy> ubuntu is at firefox 3.0.11...thefirefox site has 3.5....when is ubuntu going to have 3.5
[17:35] <kklimonda> FloridaGuy, when 9.10 is released
[17:35] <aboyz> what time does cron run on? 1 0 * * * ? does it run on 12:01 midnight?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  FloridaGuy  kklimonda
[17:35] <meglo> th0r: I'm way old school, I unwillingly use netbsd(the cat came back from Berkeley waving flags) and stick with my emacs. Just kidding, I don't care about elitism or 'old-school' stuff anymore.
[17:35] <sebsebseb> FloridaGuy: Ubuntu normalley only do security updates in the repos,  and  well  Firefox 3.5 does not count as one
[17:35] <ARMENIAN> when is firefox 3.5 coming out? damn, it's taking long
[17:35] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, you mean Fx 3.5 will be a default for Jaunty?
[17:35] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: no
[17:36] <sebsebseb> it won't be
[17:36] <sebsebseb> as far as I know
[17:36] <meglo> sebsebseb: What about in 9.04.1 possibly?
[17:36] <sebsebseb> meglo: I don't think there will be one of those either
[17:36] <sebsebseb> since not LTS
[17:36] <th0r> meglo: well....I think 'integration' is adding pontoons to a sports car. I would much rather have the performance than the 'extras'
[17:36] <meglo> It will be in the regular repos by then, sebsebseb, I don't see why they wouldn't...
[17:37] <meglo> sebsebseb: I think if it was LTS they'd be less willing to put a new release in the repos for a core program mid-distro lifetime.
[17:37] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu is not about  having the very latest stuff,   it's about  having   stability,  and then people can use ppa's or whatever if they want later stuff,  or wait for the next release
[17:37] <derenrich> !ff35
[17:37] <derenrich> it's been that way for a week now...
[17:37] <sebsebseb> there are other distros that are about having the later stuff first :)
[17:38] <sebsebseb> Ubuntu tends to always be behind those, when it comes to later versions of programs
[17:38] <meglo> sebsebseb: Ubuntu is about usability and a happy medium of features and functionality for desktop users. It doesn't have the latest stuff, and if you're looking for good stability you should be running LTS. For Jaunty I'm unsure of why they wouldn't package FF3.5 in 9.04.1 and will await an official decision unless there already is one.
[17:38] <iamslango> why does the Pidgin buddy list show up in the Window List widget for every workspace, even though I've told it to only show up on the workspace it runs on?
[17:38] <shani^> Very strange problem in ubuntu 8.10, after security update the system went into read only file system , i hv found many tutorial and remount the harddisk, but now i have the same situtation at startup , and ubuntu misses to remount the harddisk, can any one help me and tell me how i can remount the hard disk on boot. thanx
[17:38] <kklimonda> meglo, there won't be a point release for 9.04
[17:38] <sebsebseb> Firefox 3.5 in  Jaunty   as an update from the repo I doubt it
[17:38] <th0r> I installed 3.5 off the mozilla site and just replaced the link in /usr/bin
[17:38] <sebsebseb> espeasilly considering how Open Office 3.0 wasn't in 8.10
[17:38] <sebsebseb> when nearly every other distro had it
[17:39] <meglo> kklimonda: Oh, you're right.
[17:39] <sebsebseb> instead people had to do a ppa for  Open Office  or  install another way, if they wanted it so badly in 8.10
[17:39] <meglo> kklimonda: Moving from debian 4.0r8 and 5.0.3 and stuff :P
[17:39] <kklimonda> meglo, Fx 3.5 is in universe already, I guess it will be updated to stable release when ready
[17:39] <linuxguy2009> Ahh I need some help guys. Im using gtkrecordmydesktop and have a 5min ubuntu tutorial that i have edited together with Pitivi video editor.I put all the clips together with no problem. Now I just did a voiceover with Sound Recorder and I have it done. My problem is that my recording is a mono recording and I cant seem to import it to Pitivi to use for the audio track. Does it need to be a stereo converted track or does Pitivi not suppo
[17:39] <meoblast001> suppose i have a file irc.cgi at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/cgiirc and want to access it.... do i go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
[17:40] <sebsebseb> meglo: make sure you didn't miss what I just said about Open Office 3.0 in 8.10
[17:40] <meglo> sebsebseb: Ok well I suppose it wont be by default in main. But the endorsed repos available will certainly have it, eh?
[17:40] <meglo> sebsebseb: I read.
[17:40] <jakeriver> does anyone know why my firefox is collapsing all the time when flash show starts? i have this newest ubuntu.
[17:40] <bullgard4> Does http://paste.debian.net/41167 give a hint why I have only an unidirectional connection to sip:500@ekiga.net?
[17:40] <kklimonda> meglo, well, yes - it's already in universe as firefox-3.5 package
[17:40] <linuxguy2009>  jakeriver: Are you using the Adobe flash plugin or one of the free alternatives?
[17:41] <meglo> kklimonda: Ah, yeah.
[17:41] <kklimonda> meglo, it won't be promoted to main for jaunty for sure (also there is no reason to do it anyway)
[17:41] <sebsebseb> meglo: Probably in most Ubuntu developers eyes and  Canoncial  the Firefox 2 series is good  enough,  untill   Karmic  Koala  Ubuntu 9.10  released at the end of October
[17:41] <meglo> kklimonda: I understand that, I assumed that would be how main would operate. I just missed the fact that point releases are for LTS only.
[17:41] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, sure - that's why 8.04 was released with 3.0 beta :P
[17:41] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: ffox offered that installation and i took it. i dont know what is it.
[17:42] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: that would be the exception since it's LTS
[17:42] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: don't just  expect  something that isn't a security update, to be available in  the 9.04 repo
[17:42] <linuxguy2009>  jakeriver: Your using a free flash player thats why your having issues. Go to adobe web site and download and install the deb for 8.04+. That fix ya.
[17:42] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, well, they wouldn't make an exception if 2.x was "good enough"
[17:42] <rsr> hi
[17:42] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, i know how it works.
[17:42] <rsr> can I save evolution memos to be seen on another app?
[17:42] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: okey. i will try that, thank you.
[17:42] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: if you want later stuff first,   use Fedora  11  or something :)
[17:43] <linuxguy2009> welcome
[17:43] <hzlocky> how to define what remote desktop is on port 2 in ubuntu and change its password?
[17:43] <rsr> export evolution memos?
[17:43] <meglo> kklimonda: I used a ppa of ubuntu-mozilla-security to install FF3.5. Would I be able to safely migrate to the betas provided in universe? Just remove the ppa and... 'downgrade' to the universe package?
[17:43] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: should i uninstall this free first somehow?
[17:43] <toehio3> How do I use LILO to boot ubuntu from a  different partition?
[17:43] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: Fedora tend to  have  newer stuff quite a  bit before Ubuntu
[17:43] <kuba_> hello everybody
[17:43] <linuxguy2009>  jakeriver: umm Im not sure how I have never messed with the others. Adobe one might over ride it maybe.
[17:43] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, nah, I'm stuck with ubuntu by my own choice. ;)
[17:43] <C-S-B__> toehio3: is there a reason not to use gnome?
[17:44] <meglo> sebsebseb: I think he knows more about this linux stuff in general than you think.
[17:44] <jakeriver> linuxguy2009: okey, let's see what happens.
 do you mean grub?
[17:44] <linuxguy2009> ok
[17:44] <kuba_> is there anyone who has an expirience in network programming with gnutls?
[17:44] <C-S-B__> toehio3: yes, exactly, sorry!
[17:44] <Roland> toehio3: yes, if you want to use some other GUI
[17:44] <linuxguy2009> Nobody does any screencasting or video projects here? Dang.
[17:45] <meglo> kklimonda: Would you happen to know anything about migrating nearly the same package between repos as I described?
[17:45] <J_P> arial.ttf don't have in ubuntu? I try apt-file search arial.ttf and not find.
[17:45] <meglo> I'd like it to drop the bits in without using a PPA, as it would have ubufox, file associations, and the official branding.
[17:46] <sebsebseb> meglo: right so just  install it directly from Mozilla?
[17:46] <meglo> sebsebseb: Err no.
[17:46] <kklimonda> meglo, there is nothing that would prevent you from downgrading them in distribution itself
[17:46] <toehio3> C-S-B__: I am using an intel mac. Ubuntu is installed along with grub on an external drive. I have manged to get lilo working from a cd and want to use it to boot ubuntu.
[17:46] <meglo> sebsebseb: Ah it doesn't matter anyway. I need to get ecryptfs working in the ubiquity installer and do a clean-slate install. kklimonda/sebsebseb I didn't see encrypted /home offered for 9.04 in my installation procedure...
[17:47] <kuba_> I have some questions to gnuTLS, can somebody help me?
[17:47] <kklimonda> meglo, the only problem I can think of is that ppa has newer version of firefox 3.5 that has an incompatible format of data..
[17:47] <toehio3> C-S-B__:  On intel macs you can't directly boot usb so I thought of using lilo because that's all I have right now.
[17:47] <sebsebseb> meglo: it is available on the alternate CD
[17:47] <meglo> kklimonda: Yes, I would have to see if I can downgrade properly.
[17:47] <clonewars> hello there
[17:47] <kklimonda> meglo, firefox is only 3 or 4 packages so it shouldn't be hard
[17:47] <sebsebseb> meglo: downgrading Ubuntu versions can really mess things up,  also downgrading  repo programs might as well
[17:47] <jakeriver> hi
[17:47] <meglo> sebsebseb: But it is also available in Ubiquity from what I hear. I want to use ubiquity for myself and other friends/family. I already did the alt-install but that isn't good for other people.
[17:48] <meoblast001> suppose i have a file irc.cgi at /usr/lib/cgi-bin/cgiirc and want to access it.... do i go to http://localhost/cgi-bin/cgiirc/irc.cgi
[17:48] <meglo> sebsebseb: Which is why I'll probably just do a clean reinstall with encrypted /home for cleanliness.
[17:48] <clonewars> now i have an theme installed on ubuntu , but when i create an new user its not there, how do i make it system wid? so that every new user will have that theme
[17:48] <sebsebseb> meglo: it's best to use offical things from Canonical also,  instead of these 3rd party Ubuntu apps
[17:48] <kklimonda> meglo, I've reinstalled 9.04 today and I can't remember having an option to encrypt /home
[17:48] <meglo> sebsebseb: ubuntu-mozilla-security isn't totally 3rd party though
[17:48] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: alternate CD
[17:49] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, yes - but he's talking about desktop cd
[17:49] <meglo> kklimonda: I saw screenshots of a checkbox to do so. ecryptfs allows for using your user account pass as encryption key for /home...
[17:49] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: yes, but I was saying to you that it's available on the alernate
[17:49] <meglo> Which is what i want
[17:49] <karamella>  i wanna a service
[17:49] <kklimonda> meglo, wasn't it from 9.10?
[17:49] <toehio3> C-S-B__: do you know if there are any grub live cds available for download?
[17:49] <meglo> kklimonda: It was on that one linux hardware site that is popular... from various sources it appears that it should be present in 9.04...
[17:50] <meglo> kklimonda: I've asked about this before in here but didn't get an answer.
[17:50] <jamiejackson> how do i get the currently installed version of a package from CLI?
[17:50] <djiezes> fyi, it looks like firefox 3.5 is in the ubuntu repository
[17:51] <sebsebseb> !ff35
[17:51] <meglo> djiezes: A real final, or just beta?
[17:51] <kklimonda> meglo, beta from march
[17:51] <djiezes> meglo: installing now, version says 3.5, not 3.5b4 like before
[17:51] <meglo> djiezes: Interesting...
[17:52] <meglo> I'll backup my profile and bookmarks, remove my PPA and update the repo cache and see
[17:52] <kklimonda> oh, wait
[17:52] <djiezes> meglo: okay, it's shiretoki 3.5, not the beta
[17:52] <kklimonda> 3.5 was just released to jaunty-security
[17:52] <jamiejackson> jamiejackson: dpkg -s <packagename>
[17:53] <jiongye> hi, I tried to set up postfix in ubuntu 8.10, I follow all the default setting when install postfix and mailx, but when I tried to send mail to external, the mail never got sent, but I can send mail to internal users, can anyone tell me what I need to do in order to send mail to external?
[17:53] <kklimonda> I wonder why it doesn't have an official branding though
[17:54] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: the development versions of Firefox  and Thunderbird don't get proper Mozilla branding
[17:54] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, 3.5 was uploaded to jaunty-security today
[17:55] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: well where is it as in an update then?  :D
 meglo: okay, it's shiretoki 3.5, not the beta.
[17:55] <meglo> That is the code-name
[17:55] <meglo> does it have the firefox branding?
[17:55] <meglo> or just the globe...
[17:55] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, if you have firefox-3.5 then you have to wait for mirrors to catch up
[17:55] <meglo> :\
[17:55] <sebsebseb> meglo: the globe is for the deveopment versions
[17:55] <kklimonda> meglo, for some reason it doesn't
[17:55] <mnkchw> leftfb in here ?
[17:56] <sebsebseb> globe = development version
[17:56] <sebsebseb> Firefox logo = final version
[17:56] <meglo> sebsebseb: But it looks like it was upgraded to final. Shouldn't final be a release? It should have official branding - if djiezes has the final I'm wondering if he has branding.
[17:57] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  meglo
[17:57] <karamella> please i need any one help me how to speed up my system and clean up
[17:57] <shift_> Hello, is sound in Ubuntu somehow dependant on gstreamer?
[17:57] <djiezes> meglo & sebsebseb, it's the blue globe, not the firefox icon. but i don't think that's gonna change in jaunty.
[17:57] <meglo> sebsebseb: I have seen that many many many times, thank you once more!
[17:57] <kklimonda> shift_, most gnome applications that somehow work with multimedia are dependent on gstreamer
[17:57] <humbolt> ext4 sucks!
[17:58] <meglo> shift_: No. Gstreamer is a higher-level gnome framework for multimedia
[17:58] <gimpchrist> can anyone help a linuxnoob?
[17:58] <gimpchrist> lol
[17:58] <sebsebseb> humbolt: if you think that you must be noob,  or  be  using  another file system, which isn't Ext, but is also good
[17:58] <humbolt> just lost a config file due to my system freezing
[17:58] <humbolt> sebsebseb: I'll revert back to ext3
[17:58] <Emery> i've just installed ubuntu with the minimal cd ... if i did apt-get install KDE ... which version would i get ?
[17:59] <shift_> kklimonda, meglo, yeah I just uninstalled totem and gstreamer related packages.... left alsa intact and now sound doesn't work at all (even if I use mplayer)
[17:59] <sebsebseb> humbolt: and yeah Ext4 isn't quite perfect in 9.04
[17:59] <alex_mayorga> Is there a way to make Network Monitor Applet keep track of the packets received/sent between sessions?
[17:59] <gimpchrist> My cpu used to have sound, but i left it on for three days and when i came back my sound was fried....tried reboot, tried diff speakers and hedfones, nothing works.
[17:59] <sebsebseb> humbolt: it  would be if they did things a bit differnetly though, but no
[17:59] <shift_> sorry, it works again.
[17:59] <sebsebseb> humbolt:  maybe not perfect, but much better
[17:59] <gimpchrist> any way to reset original config of sound in terminal?
[17:59] <meglo> shift_: What other packages were removed, besides gstreamer? Probably something pulse-audio related which is screwing with things...
[17:59] <meglo> shift_: Err ok.
[17:59] <th0r> alex_mayorga: I think ifconfig does that
[18:00] <humbolt> sebsebseb: well I really can't accept loosing config files. If at least they would stay as they were before editing. But ending up empty?!
[18:00] <humbolt> sebsebseb: unacceptable!
[18:00] <sebsebseb> humbolt:   however it's also not default in 9.04,  so   seen as some as being buggy or development,  even though other distros such as Fedora 11 use as default, but  also  have  a  proper kernel for it.   saying that though the good news is  Ubuntu 9.10  will have Ext4 by default, and a proper kernel for it :)
[18:00] <alex_mayorga> th0r, let me check, I'm on a pay per GB connection and would like to have my own records instead of paying blindly whatever the ISP asks for
[18:01] <th0r> alex_mayorga: in a terminal type "watch ifconfig <iface>'
[18:01] <humbolt> sebsebseb: when is the next LTS release due?
[18:01] <ARMENIAN> how do i rip an audio cd to mp3?
[18:01] <sebsebseb> humbolt:  there is even some stuff in the 9.04 release notes and Ext4 issues
[18:01] <sebsebseb> !notes |  humbolt
[18:01] <kklimonda> humbolt, well - in theory the next LTS is going to be 10.04
[18:01] <gimpchrist> uhhhmmmm, anyone willing to help a noob...
[18:02] <th0r> alex_mayorga: and I believe the numbers in ifconfig are continuous, they don't reset every day or anything like that. Also there are a number of network monitoring tools that will do that work for you, create graphs and everything
[18:02] <sebsebseb> humbolt: yep 10.04 will be the next one,  April 2010
[18:02] <alex_mayorga> th0r, thanks that helps, but that wont keep record for subsecuent sessions, right?
[18:02] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping ARMENIAN
[18:02] <kklimonda> humbolt, but Shuttleworth was saying that he's considering holding it off till october so we can release it when new debian is released
[18:02] <humbolt> kklimonda: sebsebseb: hope ext4 issues and damn pulseaudio are sorted out until then!
[18:02] <sebsebseb> humbolt: yeah  sound issues,  that's not fun
[18:03] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: thanks :)
[18:03] <humbolt> pulseaudio, especially for the recording side of things, sucks increadibly!
[18:03] <th0r> alex_mayorga: that's what I mean...I think the totals will continue between sessions, so you take a reading now, another at the end of the month and there you have it. Also look into nagios, whatsupgold, big brother and others
[18:03] <kklimonda> humbolt, it was explicitly said in release notes for 9.04 that ext4 may not be as stable as ext3
[18:03] <ericdb> I'm using Jaunty on a Dell xps m1210...sometimes I lose the ability to suspend or even shutdown.  The power button does nothing, nor does closing the lid.  But usually it works.  What can I look at to troubleshoot this?  Right now I'm having the problem.  Oh, scratch that...after about 60 seconds, the dialog finally came up.
[18:03] <gimpchrist> MY sound doesnt work anymore, it used to work, i did nothing to my cpu for it to fry, someone please help me. Any way i can reset the sound settings through terminal
[18:03] <humbolt> kklimonda: yes, that's ok. I am not moaning about that anymore.
[18:03] <th0r> alex_mayorga: also...look at installing gkrellm, it is in the repos. The network monitor there keeps daily, weekly and monthly totals
[18:03] <alex_mayorga> th0r, would keep an eye on that command and check your suggestions
[18:03] <kklimonda> humbolt, and wrt pulseaudio every new release should be better than that last one
[18:04] <Scrondo> Sorry, I'm totally a newbie and I need some help about downloading from fserve. Chatzilla works fine, but if I use pidgin and type the trigger, then I don't get the long message with command list in response. What's wrong?
[18:04] <meglo> Windows users can just install 3.5 right when released. Linux needs a stable ABI and the community has to merge into a single distro with great corporate backing to weather out the coming legislative apocalypse(DMCA 2.0, prompted cyber-terror/katrina crackdowns, whatever the EU has in store). We'll need TC signed kernels with escrow, klipper chips and mandated LSM modules from our respective federal authorities. Behold the future.
[18:04] <Travis-42> for a command in the crontab, is there a way to insert the current month, day, or hour into the parameters of the command being called?
[18:04] <th0r> alex_mayorga: for simple....gkrellm, for complete and impressive, nagios or whatsupgold
[18:04] <DasEi1> !kubuntu | Emery
[18:04] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, btw - firefox 3.5 from jaunty-security is a stable version. for various reasons (SRU mainly) it doesn't have an official branding thouch
[18:04] <kklimonda> though*
[18:04] <sebsebseb> meglo: what are you on about?  and loads of the other distros do  it by default now, or have as an update just like that
[18:04] <datta> i need to know something about flock
[18:04] <bazhang> meglo, please discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:04] <sebsebseb> meglo: it's just Ubuntu is always behind with stuff like this
[18:04] <Emery> DasEi, i'm not using kubuntu ... it's ubuntu ..
[18:04] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: is sound juicer no longer installed on ubuntu by default?
[18:04] <dhq> i need help .... i am a MSc computer network security student and have to do a project as part of my course...  can anyone suggest some topics which are feasable
[18:05] <GJ> What's the most lightweight ubuntu distro?
[18:05] <kklimonda> GJ, define lightweight
[18:05] <datta> i use the ubuntu system made by dell but i dont know what i should download from flock's site
[18:05] <alex_mayorga> th0r, I'm using http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-netstatus/2.26/ for now
[18:05] <meglo> sebsebseb: So you're saying balkanized distros are causing my problems?
[18:05] <Travis-42> :q/join #linuxhelp
[18:05] <humbolt> kklimonda: I just hope that LTS will be a really stable release this time. Not like the last time, when pulseaudio, which is still not really production ready, has been pushed in in the last minute!
[18:05] <stew> Travis-42: no, but all though are available via the date command
[18:05] <Travis-42> oops
[18:05] <Travis-42> stew: ok thank you
[18:05] <alex_mayorga> th0r, it seems to reset the numbers by session though
[18:05] <GJ> kklimonda: The ones that don't take alot of memory to run, and thus run quite good on older systems.
[18:06] <DasEi1> Emery: other surfaces, but installed by minimal, the body off all (ubu,kubu,xubu .. and so on ) is same
[18:06] <Drknezz> !firefox
[18:06] <rsa_md5> has anyone here tried using debootsrap on ubuntu with apt-proxy?
[18:06] <kklimonda> GJ, probably arch linux with some lightweight WM
[18:06] <sebsebseb> meglo: no  I am saying if you want later stuff first,  and sometimes  even  when it's beta,   get  a distro such as Fedora.   For  example   Fedora 11 came with  Firefox  3.5  Beta 4.
[18:06] <shaboo> Hi, I'm gaving trouble setting the IP address from the command line.  I have edited the /etc/interfaces but when I do /etc/init.d/networking restart, it looks like it's restarted OK but the IP details have not changed, even after a reboot.  ANy ideas ?
[18:06] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, it is optional (ie needs to be installed) sound-juicer is the package name
[18:06] <th0r> alex_mayorga: I found the system monitors in gnome took an awful lot of system resources. I installed gkrellm (even under gnome) and it monitors a ton of stuff with very little impact on system resources
[18:06] <stew> Travis-42: for instance, "date +%d" would give you day of month, see man date for others
[18:06] <GJ> kklimonda Thanks:)
[18:06] <kklimonda> humbolt, audio stack was always the least polished part of linux.
[18:06] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: yeah, was trying soundjuicer and it wasnt working then i did apt-cache search and found it, thanks
[18:06] <meglo> sebsebseb: Oh well. Fedora breaks easily.
[18:06] <bazhang> meglo, sebsebseb please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:07] <ishkur> hey all, when im trying to upgrade my sys, it says cant install 'ubuntu-desktop' please report this as a bug. what should i do next?
[18:07] <meglo> bazhang: It is over. Thanks for keeping an eye out.
[18:07] <sebsebseb> meglo: well then  I suggest sticking with Ubuntu and not complaining loads that you haven't  got Firefox 3.5  as an update
[18:07] <kklimonda> ishkur, report a bug on launchpad
[18:07] <Travis-42> stew: yea that helps, and I should be able to just put it between ` ` to insert it as a parameter. thanks!
[18:07] <DasEi1> ishkur: could you paste your sources.list ?
[18:07] <sebsebseb> bazhang: I am ending the discussion now :)
[18:07] <meglo> sebsebseb: Do as channel cops say, I'm not going to engage.
[18:07] <shaboo> I've edited /etc/interfaces because I want to change my IP but even after a reboot I get no change, any ideas?
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> SunOS solaris 5.11 snv_111b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris
[18:08] <kklimonda> meglo, sebsebseb  but 9.04 was also released with firefox 3.5 - just not as default.
[18:08] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: wrong file /etc/networking/interfaces
[18:08] <shaboo> moltenbobcat, ah thx
[18:08] <meglo> kklimonda: I understand that. I have patience, I can wait.
[18:08] <ishkur> if you tell me where to find it, sure
[18:08] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: and you don't have to reboot you can just do a /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:08] <linuxguy2009> Anyone know what program I can use to combine a WAV audio track with an AVI video?
[18:09] <kklimonda> meglo, i'm lost - for what? ;)
[18:09] <DasEi1> !who | ishkur
[18:09] <shaboo> moltenbobcat, what's the file interfaces in /etc for ?
[18:09] <DasEi1> ishkur: open a terminal ...
[18:09] <ishkur> daseil, done
[18:09] <DasEi1> ishkur: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:09] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: not sure but the one I edit is in networking
[18:09] <moltenbobcat> was there something in that file already?
[18:10] <DasEi1> ishkur: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:10] <meglo> kklimonda: For FF3.5 as a stable, branded, integrated package from official repos for 9.04. Unless I'm mistaken, and this will never happen?
[18:10] <attorianzo> there is a program I execute by shell. Is there any way to know its dependences?
[18:10] <kklimonda> meglo, it will never happen for 9.04
[18:10] <GJ> !tab
[18:10] <DasEi1> ishkur: copy the url from trml in here
[18:10] <GJ> Woops >_<
[18:10] <meglo> kklimonda: So FF3.5 will be finalized in universe, but stay unbranded?
[18:11] <meglo> Why do they even bother to have it in universe if not for an option that users have to upgrade? I'm not saying they need to remaster the ISOs, I'm talking post installatoin.
[18:11] <kklimonda> meglo, there are various reasons - the main are that having both 3.0 and 3.5 with the same icons would confuse users and it's explicitly forbidden in SRU policty to change UI
[18:11] <kklimonda> meglo, yes - it's already finalized if you use main mirror
[18:11] <kklimonda> meglo, because 3.5 still breaks things
[18:12] <mbkings> im new to ubuntu and trying to figure out wine so i can us office 07 for work could anyone help pls
[18:12] <meglo> kklimonda: 'firefox' can be symlinked to FF3.5 trivially, and all icons will launch FF3.5 and update .mozilla
[18:12] <kklimonda> meglo, for example none of extensions I have installed from repository works with 3.5 yet
[18:12] <Flannel> meglo: It was released with 3.0, 3.5 isn't "bugfix/security" updates.  3.5 exists for those who wish to use 3.5, but 3.0 is still the official.
[18:12] <ishkur> daseil http://pastebin.com/f12fc3b72
[18:12] <sebsebseb> meglo: kklimonda has a point there,  must add ons for the Firefox 2 series won't work with Firefox 3.5 yet
[18:12] <DasEi1> mbkings:did you try openoffice ?
[18:12] <DasEi1> did*
[18:12] <linuxguy2009> mbkings: Your aware that openoffice can open some MS office docs right?
[18:12] <sebsebseb> meglo: most not must above
[18:12] <meglo> sebsebseb: I use few updates directory from mozilla which are compatible.
[18:12] <kklimonda> meglo, also it would break working systems - imagine that you have 100s of computers with custom extensions and after a single update they are all broken
[18:12] <meglo> sebsebseb: that is not an issue for me
[18:12] <mbkings> yes but will it work in reverse also?
[18:13] <kklimonda> meglo, then you can install 3.5 by hand
[18:13] <DasEi1> mbkings: yes
[18:13] <linuxguy2009> mbkings: Yes whataver openoffice can open Im shure it can save as well.
[18:13] <CixCocuk> helloo
[18:13] <kklimonda> meglo, developers have to think about broader picture.
[18:13] <meglo> kklimonda: I don't ask for it to be marked as an update! I just wonder if it will be available in the official mirrors for users to install at their own will.
[18:13] <mbkings> well sweet then i will boot office 07 then to
[18:13] <kklimonda> meglo, it is - as a firefox-3.5 package
[18:14] <mbkings> thankyou for the help
[18:14] <DasEi1> mbkings: you can decide in which format oo stores, just for text I prefer abiword, as it loads faster
[18:14] <linuxguy2009> mbkings: welcome
[18:14] <meglo> kklimonda: Then I have no problem other than it needs to be compiled with official branding and the ubufox extension updated for it, maybe also marked as a beta dependency
[18:14] <kklimonda> meglo, it's was already updated to a final version - it just don't replace 3.0 in any scope and doesn't use official branding to avoid confusion.
[18:14] <meglo> I don't see why this is hard.
[18:14] <DasEi1> ishkur: your sources.list ?
[18:14] <meglo> kklimonda: I don't want it to be replacing anything. I just want it to be an option.
[18:14] <kklimonda> meglo, a) SRU policy explicitly forbid changes to packages that change user interface.
[18:14] <linuxguy2009> Now if only there were some video editing peeps here.ah
[18:15] <ARMENIAN> why do I have mp3 as a profile setting in sound juicer, but I can't choose it when trying to extract?
[18:15] <meglo> Windows users get all the latest FOSS software without having to worry about their base system. Haha.
[18:15] <sebsebseb> mbkings: hi most of Office 2003 works well under wine and I think Office 2007,  however ideally you should  use the alternatives first,  Open Office,  KOffice,  Abiword, and Gnumeric a spreadsheet app
[18:15] <ishkur> daseil: http://pastebin.com/f12fc3b72
[18:15] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: trying to extract what?
[18:15] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: an audio cd to mp3
[18:15] <sebsebseb> mbkings: and for email the default Evolution or Mozilla Thunderbird or some such :)
[18:15] <kklimonda> meglo, you can use a distribibution with rolling updates and have all the newest software
[18:15] <meglo> kklimonda: Base system doesn't matter to me. If that is the problem then why is it even in universe? There are thousands of packages that change the user interface.
[18:15] <DasEi1> !tab | ishkur
[18:15] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Oh you need Lame installed and bad and ugly and both in multiverse so you get all codecs.
[18:16] <mbkings> will do thanks sebsebseb
[18:16] <Hilikus> i'm getting this mail every day
[18:16] <makinon> ciao
[18:16] <Hilikus> etc/cron.daily/sysklogd:
[18:16] <Hilikus> Use of uninitialized value in numeric ge (>=) at /usr/sbin/syslogd-listfiles line 129
[18:16] <sebsebseb> meglo: Windows users blah de blah,   it depends on the Linux distro, if you just  get a later program version just like that or not
[18:16] <Hilikus> any ideas how to fix that?
[18:16] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: hmm i think i have bad and ugly installed and i tried sudo apt0get install lame and it said that it was mnually installed and up to date
[18:16] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: I actually prefer to use sound juicer for CD to FLAC and then Sound Converter for FLAC to MP3, AAC etc. Sound Juicer requires you to know ungodly amounts of gstreamer coding.
[18:16] <meglo> sebsebseb: I don't understand what you're saying. Also what is with the 5 spacings between arbitrary words? Is your keyboard broken?
[18:17] <kklimonda> meglo, to change a package in a released ubuntu version you have to follow SRU procedure. this procedure states explicitly that you can't change an interface in any way.
[18:17] <sebsebseb> meglo: I already told  you about another distro, where you get most of the later Linux programs first, before Ubuntu
[18:17] <sebsebseb> meglo: and as defaults
[18:17] <meglo> We have a beta package that is finalized in FF3.5. I shall install that, but kklimonda says this SRU forbids them from applying official branding?
[18:17] <meglo> This sounds ridiculous.
[18:17] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: hmm it seems it does it itself though if u have all the codecs, im gonna see if I have ugly and bad installed
[18:17] <mbkings> thanks for the help cya laters
[18:17] <meglo> We have the ability to offer users a choice for FF3.5, but 'eh, just wait until late october'
[18:17] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: With sound converter theres no gstreamer coding stuff you just pick and choose format and bitrate.
[18:17] <evonise`emp> swoody, u there?
[18:18] <sebsebseb> meglo: http://www.distrowatch.com :)
[18:18] <pp7> can anyone get vdpau to work with mplayer in jaunty?
[18:18] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Yeah but umm good luck if you want to change the sound juicer bitrates for any format at all.
[18:18] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: isn't sound juicer the same thing?
[18:18] <DasEi1> ishkur: is there a reason for you having backports enabled ? in which circumstance you get your error ?
[18:18] <swoody> evonise`emp:  yeah, how'd it go?
[18:18] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Same thing as what?
[18:18] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: :P I don't need to change any bitrates, this cd was recorded from mp3s either way :P
[18:19] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Have you looked at how to change the MP3 bitrate in sound juicer yet? Its horrible.
[18:19] <linuxguy2009> oh ok
[18:19] <meglo> sebsebseb: Or I can just work with this to get what I want. I guess there is some silly rule that forbids official branding? Well screw official branding then. I already have firefox symlinked to FF3.5 rather than FF3, and just want the integration(ubufox, file associations).
[18:19] <meglo> I only see the globe when I go to Help -> About.
[18:19] <shaboo> moltenbobcat, Thx heaps that worked a treat
[18:19] <ishkur> DasEi1: backports? i get the error when ubuntu tries to update itself
[18:20] <meglo> Oh, and the 'Shiretoko' as the process name.
[18:20] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: I know K3B lets you copy right off the disk to any format you want. Thats a cool feature.But all the other bells and whistles in K3B scare me.hehe
[18:20] <sebsebseb> meglo: it might also be to do with Mozilla why it's a globe your getting,  this stuff can be pretty difficult to explain, espesailly to someone that is moaning
[18:20] <jesaipa> hi all
[18:20] <shruggar> how do I properly, permanently, uninstall kvm? I tried it out months ago, and it didn't work. Now, every time I boot up, "kvm" and "kvm_intel" uselessly load, and I need to rmmod them manually in order to use VirtualBox
[18:20] <linuxguy2009> jesaipa: Hello how are you today?
[18:20] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: yeah I've actually tried k3b much more options than brasero
[18:20] <DasEi1> ishkur: you got several foreign sources, like backports of (!dapper) older ones in, that could be the problem; unless for a certain reason, on jaunty use standard for that
[18:20] <jesaipa> anybody know the usb<>serial module please ?
[18:21] <meglo> sebsebseb: I'm not moaning about anything, you can't effectively explain this absurdity except "lol go to distrowatch". What does it have to do with Mozilla? Nothing at all, except the package was compiled without official branding enabled. I understand this. It isn't difficult.
[18:21] <moltenbobcat> shaboo: no peroblem
[18:21] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what I'm looking for is simple, fast, interface audio cd to mp3
[18:21] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Im an idoit I meant to say KDE not K3B. duh im lamer
[18:21] <ishkur> DasEi1: so if i edit the backports out i should b ok?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> meglo: heh  maybe you should be happy your not running  Debian  which Ubuntu is based on,  because  then you get Iceweasel  instead of  Firefox,  because of some sort of disagreement between Debian and Ubuntu.  Iceweasel being based on Firefox
[18:22] <sebsebseb> meglo: of course you could  install  the  proper Firefox there directly from Mozilla,   you can talk further about this stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[18:22] <meglo> sebsebseb: And the same thing nearly happened with Ubuntu also until Canonical worked out a deal with Mozilla.
[18:22] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Well if you dont care about changing settings sound juicer will do it. Otherwise you have to go hunt the web for lines of gstreamer code to paste in.Sucks.
[18:22] <alan_> the Network Connections menu doesn't seem to support 64bit WEP encryption. Am I correct in this? If so, is it still possible to do so?
[18:22] <NemesisUK> does anyone know how I could block access to a website thru iptables or if not iptables another probgam
[18:22] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: :P
[18:22] <swoody> evonise`emp :  how'd it go?
[18:22] <DasEi1> ishkur: As you don't seem to know about their existance, backup old sources list, and use the one comin' in a moment
[18:22] <kklimonda> meglo, buy you just don't seem to understand a reasoning behind this decision - if you did you wouldn't call it an "absurd" decision
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[18:22] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: any clue what it defaults to?
[18:22] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: maybe we should take him to  off topic like the ops wanted
[18:22] <slayton> NemesisUK, you can add the url to /etc/hosts and redirect it to localhost
[18:22] <shruggar> NemesisUK, I would recommend a squid proxy
[18:23] <meglo> sebsebseb: This isn't off-topic and applies to Ubuntu. Official branding doesn't matter, just the Ubuntu-specific modifications that offer better integration. I wonder if that is offered by the universe package.
[18:23] <Flannel> meglo: Please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:23] <NemesisUK> will that work if the machine is a router
[18:23] <DasEi1> ishkur: (in trml) sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list  /etc/apt/sources.listBackup
[18:23] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, there should be an #ubuntu-advocacy channel for that ;)
[18:23] <meglo> kklimonda: Link me to the SRU.
[18:23] <Flannel> meglo: It is offtopic.  This channel is for support only, #ubuntu-offtopic is for non-support ubuntu chatter.
[18:23] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Umm lets see here...audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc mode=0 vbr-quality=6 ! id3v2mux umm
[18:23] <meglo> kklimonda: A lot of the things in GNOME's HIG is absurd, and I call it as such.
[18:23] <slayton> NemesisUK, yes
[18:23] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: VBR quality 6?
[18:23] <slayton> NemesisUK, the /etc/hosts file is checked before a DNS query is sent out
[18:24] <kklimonda> meglo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[18:24] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: what were you trying to say?
[18:24] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: lol, what bitrate what that be?
[18:24] <meglo> Flannel: I'll just straight up stop talking. These fellows wont follow me to an alternate channel for a proper discussion. Telling people to go to #ubuntu-offtopic is basically a "stfu" move in practice.
[18:24] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, that offtopic isn't really a channel for this kind of discussions ino
[18:24] <Flannel> meglo: No, it's not.  It's a "please let people get support in here"
[18:24] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: See thats why I dont use sound juicer for anything but FLAC and then use sound converter to do all my encoding.
[18:24] <sebsebseb> meglo: wrong  I just joined  #ubuntu-offtopic after telling you to join
[18:24] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: and it's weird i have lame, bad, and ugly, and still don't get the option the profile is there and active but it doesnt show up when i want to choos ethe profiole for encoding
[18:24] <private_meta> heya... small question, I'm quite unsure about this one: Is it normal for the current ubuntu to start up to run level 2 only?
[18:25] <meglo> Flannel: Sure, but lets take discussion of #ubuntu-offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic shall we?
[18:25] <Flannel> meglo: I'd love to.
[18:25] <kklimonda> sebsebseb, and maybe we need another channel for all those "why does ubuntu do it this way" discussions
[18:25] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: have the bad multiverse and ugly multiverse as well?
[18:25] <Flannel> kklimonda: It's #ubuntu-offtopic.  Please go there now.
[18:25] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Restricted extras maybe too?
[18:25] <kklimonda> Flannel, sure
[18:25] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: that i might not have
[18:25] <ishkur> DasEi1: done
[18:25] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what's the multiverse anyway?
[18:25] <Flannel> meglo: Waiting on you.
[18:25] <sebsebseb> kklimonda: maybe, but really   it's not that good to talk bad about Ubuntu in it's offical channels,  even if only little things
[18:26] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Just stuff outside the normal repos I think. Or legal type stuff.
[18:26] <Flannel> sebsebseb: That's entirely incorrect.
[18:26] <NemesisUK> bizzare as Ive added them to the routers hosts file and it still getting the pages
[18:26] <ARMENIAN> hmm
[18:26] <meglo> Flannel: I said I'm just going to stop talking. This isn't worthwhile. But I'll put offtopic on autojoin because it looks like I'll be using it more often.
[18:26] <sebsebseb> Flannel: well unless support or something,  or  what were you trying to say?
[18:26] <ottoshmidt> a little question: would sending shutdown signal when Totem is on break totem?
[18:26] <DasEi1> ishkur: it's really a wierd mixture you got there, you may consider backup other stuff from your sys too, lot's of dapper-sources in it
[18:26] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: so could u tell me what i would need to do exactly to get the profile to work i mean my bad ugly and lame are all up to date it says
[18:26] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: I think either multiverse or universe are stuff they cant legally distribute on the distro releases.
[18:27] <Flannel> meglo: For the record, *everyone* you're discussing the mozilla thing with is in -offtopic now.  But if you insist on being difficult, that's your perogative.
[18:27] <kklimonda> ok, time for a real question - how suitable is server kernel for desktops?
[18:27] <DasEi1> !dapper | ishkur
[18:27] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Do you have the multiverse of each of those as well? Thats what you need.
[18:27] <Flannel> kklimonda: You generally want to use the -desktop kernel, because you'll benefit from PREEMPT
[18:27] <private_meta> !runlevel
[18:27] <private_meta> meh
[18:27] <kklimonda> I know what options are set differently in server kernel, I would like to know how they affect performance. for example preempt and config_hz
[18:28] <kklimonda> Flannel, I can't decide which is more important to me - PREEMPT and CONFIG_HZ or using whole 4GB of ram..
[18:28] <Flannel> kklimonda: Sometimes you'll notice the mouse lagging slightly due to the (lack of) preempt and stuff.
[18:28] <wolfgang> servus
[18:28] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: You need to have Lame, gstreamer bad, gstreamer bad multiverse, gstreamer ugly, gstreamer ugly multiverse. Lots of apps use those.
[18:28] <Flannel> kklimonda: Is 64bit not an option?
[18:29] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: well i just checked and the soources are enabled
[18:29] <kklimonda> Flannel, I've used it for some time and imo it just creates new sources of problems
[18:29]  * trident523 can't see his SD card reader in ubuntu, it just dosen't show up as anything when a card is inserted. What should I do?
[18:29] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: ok so go install em all.
[18:29] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: now just i need to know the name of the gstreamer multiverse ugly package
[18:30] <slayton> ARMENIAN, try using aptitude search
[18:30] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: just look for gstreamer bad or ugly the will be listed right by them cant miss em.
[18:30] <maria> hi?
[18:30] <DasEi1> ishkur : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211418/
[18:30] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[18:30] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  maria
[18:30] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: not sure let me see
[18:30] <rom1v> hi
[18:30] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, also a couple of packages from medibuntu as well ( medibuntu.org )
[18:31] <rom1v> I need help with apt-get / aptitude : I have a dependencies problem
[18:31] <rom1v> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2787178#p2787178
[18:31] <maria> Well... really This's a computer of my sister... I'm alexander.. Nice to meet all.. guys =)
[18:31] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: now i have it installed :P
[18:31] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: might want to get libdvdcss as well while your getting stuff. DVD playback.
[18:31] <over> can i install firefox 3.5 rc3 on ubuntu
[18:31] <maria> someone here understand spanish languaje?
[18:31] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  over
[18:31] <linuxguy2009> Hola!
[18:31] <trident523> !es | maria
[18:31] <maria> hola como estas ...
[18:31] <ortsvorsteher> !es | maria
[18:31] <akikan> but is it safe to use?
[18:32] <ishkur> DasEi1: so if i replace my sources list with that one i should be ok?
[18:32] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: it's ok i just use vlc and i dont play many dvds mostly divx and xvid ;-)
[18:32] <harjot> maria: type /nick alexander to change ur name
[18:32] <slayton> rom1v, have you tried in #ubuntu-fr
[18:32] <slayton> !fr
[18:32] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:ah
[18:32] <Flannel> akikan: Yes.  It's currently an older version, but it'll be updated to final once the final package is finished testing
[18:32] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, also in addition to what linuxguy2009 suggests, the w32codecs
[18:32] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: u the man :)
[18:32] <Faethin> Greetings
[18:32] <ARMENIAN> bazhang: the ubuntu-restricted- did it
[18:32] <akikan> flannel: wil it earse my current 1? and will i get it as an ubuntu update wen the ful version is out?
[18:33] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: thanks for the help :D
 hi you know a program for video?
[18:33] <Faethin> How can I remove the requirement to enter sudo for a specific command?
[18:33] <DasEi1> ishkur: I think so, though I'm not shure for every little typo, to compare, here is my working jaunty one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211422/
[18:33] <cousteau> when I try to boot from 2.6.28-13 grub makes an error 13, what can this be? I tried reinstalling the package
[18:33] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: yeah restricted extras are almost a necessity.
[18:33] <ARMENIAN> maria: what kind of video?
[18:33] <Flannel> akikan: It won't.  You'll have 3.0 and 3.5 both installed, and it'll automatically update.
[18:33] <sebsebseb> maria: VLC  banshee mplayer :)
[18:33] <bazhang> ARMENIAN, nice :)
[18:33] <akikan> ok thanks alot
[18:33] <ishkur> DasEi1: thanks for help will try that
[18:33] <slayton> Faethin, you can login as root.. or change the permissions of the program you're trying to run, but you really SHOULDNT do this
[18:33] <akikan> btw ban me im the guy from yesterday who was illegal
[18:33] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: i mean i could play mp3s and stuff without it yet couldnt encode even though I had lame weird idk
[18:33] <Faethin> I need to be able to eject a media device without having to type sudo eject /media/<devicename>
[18:34] <MrKeuner> !firefox-3.5
[18:34] <Faethin> slayton: it'd be just for one command
[18:34] <Faethin> slayton: the command that ejects my iPod
[18:34] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: yeah you just have to have all the dependencies for all of that stuff to work right.
[18:34] <cousteau> is it possible that the module of the nvidia card is mesing up the kernel image?
[18:34] <slayton> Faethin, have you tried umount?
[18:34] <Faethin> I have
[18:35] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: You dont happen to know an app to join a WAV and AVI together in ubuntu do you?
[18:35] <Faethin> slayton: see, I have to input the eject command on Amarok in order to properly unmount my iPod from my laptop
[18:35] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: u might like to give avidemux a try
[18:35] <Faethin> slayton: umount doesn't work
[18:35] <slayton> Faethin, well everybody has execute privledges on eject, it has to do with the privledges on the device you're trying to eject
[18:35] <DasEi1> linuxguy2009:you just want to play them ?
[18:35] <slayton> Faethin, you're ipod isn't mounting with the proper permissions
[18:35] <Faethin> slayton: how can I get around this then?
[18:36] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: yeah avidemux should do it
[18:36] <Faethin> slayton: Oh, and how do I fix this?
[18:36] <maria> no no.. it's for edite video.. ok i explain.. I used the Avidemux. But I can't understand one question this program not paste the subtitles and the video contunous... cuz the video are in Mp4 with codec h264 and when you try in paste the subtitles in this video and put in AVI have a prolems the audio appear first than the video .. So my question is if someone here can help how I can paste the subtitules in this video
[18:36] <linuxguy2009> DasEi1: No im starting to do screencast tutorials to help folks here.
[18:36] <slayton> Faethin, does the ipod show up on the desktop?  can you right click on it and select umount volume
[18:36] <Faethin> It does and I can
[18:36] <rom1v> slayton, yes, I tried…
[18:37] <Faethin> slayton: And it unmounts it with no problem at all
[18:37] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Thanks Ill have to give that app another go. i thought it was just for seperating them.
[18:37] <DasEi1> linuxguy2009:rigt i right, then
[18:37] <maria> and my other question is How I can put my 5.1 channels in this computer?
[18:37] <slayton> Faethin, then why can't you just do that?
[18:37]  * trident523 can't find his SD card reader that's hardwired into his system as anything in ubuntu. what am I doing wrong?
[18:37] <Emery> If i did, apt-get install kde, what version would i get ?
[18:37] <slayton> rom1v, can you paste bin the apt-get error?
[18:37] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: u press file - append and it should combine them
[18:37] <Faethin> slayton: because I'm neurotic and like to tie loose ends. :p
[18:37] <slayton> trident523, have you tried lsusb?
[18:37] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:Sweet ill give it a try. Ill let you know here in a min.
[18:37] <slayton> Faethin, have you tried in #amarok?
[18:38] <bazhang> Emery, for jaunty?
[18:38] <Faethin> slayton: in all seriousness, because I'd like to merely plug, add music and unplug from a single context
[18:38] <trident523> slayton: not there, I think. There's some random items though.
[18:38] <Faethin> slayton: I have
[18:38] <maria> The program AVI Demux are prolems with the paste of subtitles guys! xD heeh
[18:38] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: so what u do is open ur first file with open and then go to file append for every file u want to add to the end of the one before it
[18:38] <Emery> bazhang, yes
[18:38] <Faethin> slayton: People there aren't very helpful at all
[18:38] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: ok :)
[18:38] <bazhang> Emery, kubuntu-desktop would deliver kde4
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <harjot> file:///home/harjot/temp/rpcrt4.dll
[18:38] <rom1v> slayton, http://pastebin.com/f279e3de4
[18:38] <FloodBot2> harjot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <Emery> bazhang, i don't want kde4 i want 3
[18:38] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: and this sound juicer is crap, I press extract and ti just quits, i even tried help and it just quits, what a broken app
[18:39] <maria> what do you from all?
[18:39] <bazhang> !kde3 > Emery
[18:39] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:try using it for FLAC extraction and just use sound converter.It works great.
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <harjot> d
[18:39] <ARMENIAN> maria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNt6mEQ658s
[18:39] <FloodBot2> harjot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <maria> someone wanna help me please?
[18:39] <bazhang> harjot, dont paste here
[18:39] <slayton> Faethin, its not that they aren't helpful they probably don't know how to fix the problem
[18:39] <bazhang> whoops
[18:39] <hoban> hello all. Is there any official Upstart documentation? All I can find on the wiki links me to this article: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/125977
[18:39] <shruggar> When I hit a combination of keys, a window minimizes. Is there any way to say "just tell me who intercepts this keypress first" ?
[18:39] <slayton> trident523, try messing around with lsusb
[18:39] <Emery> bazhang, i must be able to install it from apt-get without downloading a cd
[18:39] <bazhang> harjot, dont paste here
[18:40] <harjot> accident
[18:40]  * harjot sighs at his ppc
[18:40] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Ah no luck with avidimux.
[18:40] <bazhang> Emery, not sure if a ppa exists for that or not
[18:40] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what happens?
[18:40] <linuxguy2009> append error
[18:40] <DasEi1> hoban : http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-9.04
[18:40] <Faethin> slayton: I don't say this lightly. I've had a bunch of questions and basically none of them have been answered at #amarok
[18:40] <maria> This is my first time in this IRC xD jeje
[18:40] <slayton> how long did you wait around for answers?
[18:41] <Faethin> slayton: I've gotten more help from #rhythmbox :p
[18:41] <linuxguy2009> Im using raw avi uncompressed till I get it all done so Im not losing quality each and every edit.
[18:41] <maria> Thanks armenian
[18:41] <slayton> Faethin, oh how I love irc
[18:41] <Emery> bazhang, i find it a bit odd that kde3 isn't included ..
[18:41] <Faethin> slayton: don't we all
[18:41] <hoban> DasEi1, that says nothing about Upstart, nor is it official documentation
[18:41] <ARMENIAN> maria: sure :)
[18:41] <rom1v> slayton, wait, I am posting the english version
[18:41] <bazhang> Emery, kde4 is the official as of now
[18:41] <maria> Yeah, i see.. But I can't put well the subs
[18:41] <maria> xD
[18:41] <hoban> DasEi1, but thanks anyway
[18:41] <ARMENIAN> maria: haven't tried that so let me know how it works out
[18:41] <DasEi1> hoban: got you in the wrong way, to a start up, upstart
[18:42] <rom1v> here is my apt-get problem : http://pastebin.com/f6346698c
[18:42] <Faethin> slayton: returning to my initial question, is there a way to remove the command from the sudo list?
[18:42] <maria> ok ok.. armenian .. YOu know other program for edit video?
[18:42] <hoban> DasEi1, ah, no. I was referring to Ubuntu SysV init replacement, Upstart
[18:42] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: What are you trying to do exactly?
[18:43] <slayton> Faethin, its not that the command is on a list... in order to execute the command it must be run able by either user, group, or everybody... eject is runable by anybody so you don't need to be root to run eject... ohwever the permissions on your ipod are screwy so only root can unmount it
[18:43] <rom1v> linuxguy2009, just using apt-get normally
[18:43] <DasEi1> hoban: understood, not to familiar with it, sry
[18:43] <slayton> !permissions | Faethin
[18:43] <rom1v> every time I apt-get something, I have this problem
[18:43] <Faethin> slayton: thanks :D I'll have a read.
[18:44] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: If apt-get fails then maybe you have a bad or corrupted sources list? Are you able to install from synaptic or add/remove?
[18:44] <maria> well My msn is nemesiskrak@hotmail.com.. If someone wanna help me with the video agree me
[18:44] <maria> jeje
[18:44] <rom1v> I am able to install even with apt-get (apt-get install vlc for example), but at the end it always try to reconfigure linux-image-2.6.28-13 and never manage to)
[18:44] <ARMENIAN> maria: there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino_(software) but it's probably not as advanced as avidemux
[18:44] <rom1v> and the system doesn't boot on this kernel (-13)
[18:45] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: Try clearing out your APT cache and try again?
[18:45] <maria> I used Kino Amenian and this program are not good
[18:45] <rom1v> (both with apt-get or aptitude)
[18:45] <rom1v> how?
[18:45] <slayton> rom1v, did you pastebin the english error?
[18:45] <ARMENIAN> maria: only other way u could do is probably ffmpeg but that's command line
[18:45] <marys7> oiiiiiiiiiii
[18:45] <rom1v> slayton : http://pastebin.com/f6346698c
[18:45] <ARMENIAN> maria: yeah there aren't too many for linux
[18:46] <ARMENIAN> linuxguy2009: what append error does it give u?
[18:46] <linuxguy2009>  rom1v: Synaptic package manager.settings preferences. files tab, delete cached package files.
[18:46] <bazhang> maria, kdenlive also comes to mind along with avidemux
[18:46] <linuxguy2009> umm
[18:46] <slayton> rom1v, file a bug report
[18:46] <chris__> can anybody help me with getting Pandora to work with ubuntu
[18:46] <slayton> !flash | chris__,
[18:46] <rom1v> for package linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic on launchpad?
[18:47] <maria> Yeah! I used Kdenline and not are good hehe.. really i need a other program
[18:47] <maria> well see later armenian
[18:47] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN: Just says :Something failed while appending.
[18:47] <bazhang> maria, that is pretty much it at this point
[18:47] <maria> thank's for all
[18:47] <ARMENIAN> maria :)
[18:47] <slayton> rom1v, you're installing a kernel from launchpad?
[18:47] <maria> you have msn?
[18:47] <linuxguy2009> ARMENIAN:Color of the video is inverse also.Strange
[18:47] <bazhang> maria, amsn, pidgin sure
[18:47] <rom1v> slayton : no, it's a standard upgrade from standard repositories
[18:47] <rom1v> in ubuntu
[18:47] <maria> yeah!
[18:48] <maria> Please you gime me you msn'
[18:48] <slayton> rom1v, hmm... you should really file a bug report
[18:48] <rom1v> when you said "fill a bug", you mean bugs.launchpad.net?
[18:48] <linuxguy2009> rom1v: Clear your cache and try again?
[18:48] <GJ> Might not want to do that in public chat.
[18:48] <bazhang> oh misunderstood sorry
[18:48] <slayton> oh yes
[18:48] <slayton> rom1v, "^
[18:48] <rom1v> linuxguy2009, for the moment I access only using shell on the computer
[18:48] <ARMENIAN> maria: u want my msn?
[18:48] <rom1v> so I can't launch synaptic
[18:48] <maria> yeah pliz<
[18:48] <rom1v> how can I clear the cache
[18:48] <linuxguy2009> Anyone want to help rom1v and say how to empty the apt cache from terminal?
[18:48] <slayton> rom1v, https://launchpad.net/linux
[18:49] <ARMENIAN> maria: it's gev323@live.com
[18:49] <maria> ok thank's
[18:49] <ARMENIAN> maria: what's urs ill add u
[18:49] <ARMENIAN> or if u want add me
[18:49] <maria> add me my msn is
[18:49] <maria> nemesiskrak@hotmail.com
[18:50] <sburwood> Anyone wanna help me open up my EEE PC 900?
[18:50] <maria> see latter
[18:50] <scott__> my access to the web is waaaaay too slow on ubuntu. I've got a brandnew 8.10 install with zero changes. IT IS NOT IPV6, TURNING IPV6 DOES NOT FIX IT
[18:50] <linuxguy2009> rom1v: Cant get to a desktop at all huh?
[18:50] <bazhang> scott__, lose the caps
[18:50] <slayton> rom1v, apt-get clean
[18:50] <sburwood> I undid the screws.  I don't want to force it and break it, but ...
[18:50] <lordnoid> hey does anyone know what's the best way to setup dual monitors with an ati hd4850? I tried it last night with just the catalyst control but that went wrong.
[18:50] <rom1v> ah it seems to be a bug
[18:50] <rom1v> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/388923
[18:50] <slayton> sburwood, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic this channel is for ubuntu support only
[18:50] <sburwood> ok, sorry
[18:50] <bazhang> sburwood, #eeepc or ##hardware NOT here
[18:51] <scott__> bazhang, zip it. caps don't only mean yelling, they are sometimes used to emphasize a point.
[18:51] <b0red> why everytime when I restart Ubuntu, my network card gets a new name.. eth0 eth1..
[18:51] <bazhang> scott__, please be civil.
[18:53] <^cheeky> kerimbasol, hey, man figured it out it was dump on my side, it was the trash can applet that did not let me move files out but i was managed to get my files out of the trash via terminal under .trash. thank you for your time cheers
[18:53] <rom1v> and there are 44 duplicates !
[18:54] <scott__> i need to know if switching to a static IP will improve my web speeds. and i'll need someone to walk me thru it. please, only those that KNOW what they're talkin about
[18:54] <Titan8990> scott__, no, it will not effect web speed
[18:54] <chris__> even after i downloaded the flash plug in, when i try to run Pandora it says "We're sorry, but unless you agree to share registration information with %s, you will be unable to listen to %s
[18:55] <Titan8990> scott__, it will increase boot time since the boot proc does not need to wait on the DHCP server to respond
[18:55] <Gausian> scott_, are you wired or wireless?
[18:55] <scott__> i'm hard wired
[18:55] <scott__> 2 puters on one modem
[18:56] <Titan8990> i doubt its a modem
[18:56] <MrKeuner> will firefox-3.5 be replaced with jaunty's firefox 3 eventually?
[18:56] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  MrKeuner
[18:56] <Dulak> MrKeuner: it will not be replaced but there is a firefox-3.5 package in universe you can install and use
[18:57] <bazhang> MrKeuner, two separate items
[18:57] <antii> Can I use Ubuntu 8.10 livecd for backing up my files on a EXT3 drive to a NTFS drive?
[18:57] <sebsebseb> antii: that didn't make proper sense
[18:57] <sebsebseb> antii: it did, weird I didn't read the word backing
[18:57] <Titan8990> antii, yes but its not needed
[18:57] <antii> sebsebseb: :P
[18:58] <antii> Titan8990: huh?
[18:58] <antii> What u suggest me to do..
[18:58] <Titan8990> antii, use the actual install
[18:58] <lordnoid> hi does anyone know what's the best way to setup dual monitors on ati hd4850? I tried aticonfig/catalyst but that didn't work out really well.
[18:58] <antii> Titan8990: but i wont install.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> antii: you can copy files from Ext3 to NTFS that's easy to do
[18:58] <JPZ> Hello everyone. I need help with Firestarter, its generating a massive amount of logs regarding broadcast msgs, I've already disabled the block broadcast msgs, but msgs keep on coming.
[18:58] <Titan8990> antii, then yes
[18:58] <scott__> ok router then, lets plz stop kibitzing over words and caps for the love of Pete! all i wanna do is get my speed back. since switching from windows xp to ubuntu, my speed is waaaay slower. clearly something is wrong, all i wanna do is fix it.
[18:58] <sebsebseb> antii: as long as Windows shut down the NTFS properly
[18:58] <antii> sebsebseb: didnt work in 7.04, just read only so trying 8.10 now
[18:59] <desiNerd> can someone help me on installing gmailfs on ubuntu 9.04?
[18:59] <sebsebseb> antii: yeah the proper  read and write NTFS support didn't come along untill 7.10
[18:59] <antii> :P!
[18:59]  * antii trashes his 7.04 cd
[18:59] <sebsebseb> antii: heh :)
[19:00] <antii> 4 min left! :)
[19:00] <Gausian> scott_, how big a of a speeed dif are we talking here?  a few MB/s?
[19:00] <SjoerdM> i messed up my ubuntu 9 installation is their a recovery option? (cant acces the gui anymore)
[19:00] <sebsebseb> antii: for what?
[19:00] <antii> sebsebseb: 8.10 cd :P
[19:01] <sebsebseb> antii: why 8.10 and not 9.04  by the way  9.04 isn't that great really,  8.10 :)   and then do another clean install once 9.10 is out so you can have full Ext4 support and by default :)
[19:01] <desiNerd> @sjoerdm ,,,then try recovering using text mode only
[19:01] <b0red> why everytime when I restart Ubuntu, my network card gets a new name.. eth0 eth1..
[19:01] <SjoerdM> desiNerd: how can i acces a text only mode?
[19:01] <antii> sebsebseb: cause i use a mac as my primary computer and need my movies and so from my ext3 drive to my htpc
[19:02] <sebsebseb> SjoerdM: you still got the Grub boot loader right?  ,but it's only on the screen for like 3 seconds?
[19:02] <sebsebseb> antii: oh right
[19:02] <scott__> gausian no we're talkin about my isp pumpin 850ish (upload) and from speedtest.com i'm only getting .002
[19:02] <Severity1> RAWR!
[19:02] <SjoerdM> sebsebseb: yes
[19:02] <desiNerd> @sjoerdm...login using single user mode...did you try thta.....what exactly is the problme...can you elaborate a bit
[19:02] <scott__> gausian i called my isp, all is well, i looked at the router and it confirms it
[19:02] <sebsebseb> SjoerdM: that can be changed in the menu.list file to longer, but I think you can just press esc on it, and then access recovery mode from it
[19:03] <antii> sebsebseb: so ntfs-3g is enabled by default? read write that is
[19:04] <sebsebseb> antii: yep  as of  7.10
[19:04] <yeldud> first time trying  xchat just want to see if it works; good afternon
[19:04] <antii> Niceee!
[19:04] <sebsebseb> yeldud: evening here
[19:04] <yeldud> yes it does
[19:04] <mcrawfor> firefox 3.5 - wtf?
[19:04] <ryan_> how do i move a directory?
[19:04] <mcrawfor> I installed the "firefox-3.5" package on jaunty
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !langauge |  mcrawfor
[19:04] <mcrawfor> and I get Shiretoko still
[19:04] <OttifantSir> Does anyone have any idea why my audio de-syncs with the video when I record my desktop with gtk-recordmydesktop?
[19:04] <sebsebseb> mcrawfor: yes the bot link will explain
[19:05] <sebsebseb> !ff35 |  mcrawfor
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mcrawfor: or the bot message, or both
[19:05] <mcrawfor> sebsebseb: still, huh? wild
[19:05] <sebsebseb> mcrawfor: go on the link it's good :)
[19:05] <mcrawfor> I saw the update today, which drops the "rc" label
[19:05] <antii> sebsebseb: burning now :! D:
[19:05] <mcrawfor> but still beta apparently thanks
[19:05] <sebsebseb> antii: by the way good idea to md5sum your ISO
[19:05] <silidan1> is there an open source alternative to google earth ?
[19:05] <sebsebseb> antii: download check to make sure no problems with the ISO
[19:06] <antii> sebsebseb: always ^_^!
[19:06] <cousteau> !ext4
[19:06] <lightbricko> I'm recording my breathing during sleep using a microphone to check for sleep apnea. What recording and analyzing software is suitable for this? I'd like to see some kind of volume graph so I can easily see when my breathing changes.
[19:06] <geboy> can somebody tell me whats the big diff between the gui version and the server version of ubuntu?
[19:06] <sebsebseb> antii: you do it?
[19:06] <antii> sebsebseb: yarr
[19:06] <sebsebseb> antii: good
[19:06] <Slart> silidan1: no, not that I've heard of at least
[19:06] <desiNerd> silidan: why dont you tyr google earth itself...wahts the prob
[19:06] <geboy> coz i intended to run proxy server in ubuntu desktop
[19:06] <sebsebseb> silidan1: don't think so, but  there is Google Earth for Linux as well
[19:06] <adi__> _adi_
[19:06] <geboy> what would be the down side of it?
[19:06] <desiNerd> @lightbricko.....are you a nerd???
[19:06] <desiNerd> of what
[19:07] <yeldud> had problems getting google earth to work on linux
[19:07] <silidan1> you know the things about closed source: they may be free now... but what in the future?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> geboy: well first of all do you want to run some sort of server?
[19:07] <adi__> re
[19:07] <lightbricko> desiNerd: What do you mean?
[19:07] <sebsebseb> geboy: and if so what kind of server exactly?
[19:07] <desiNerd> what was the problem installing google earth on linux
[19:07] <Slart> lightbricko: there is audacity for sound editing.. not sure how well it works for this though
[19:07] <geboy> @sebsebseb: squid
[19:07] <darkhamm> hi people, i must copy a big folder to my ubuntu from windows, is the other pc of my home, how can i do that quickly?
[19:07] <silidan1> no there wasnt a problem
[19:07] <lightbricko> Slart: Thanks, I'll check it.
[19:07] <sebsebseb> geboy: are you going to use the computer as just a server,   or as a server, but also desktop usage?
[19:08] <desiNerd> tickling the funny bone....btw you can try audacity ...its a good option though
[19:08] <darkhamm> i enebled the guest access on a shared folder on my ubuntu, how can i open it from windows?
[19:08] <geboy> @sebsebseb: just as a server, but i don't like looking at the command line x)
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: well  then  maybe you need to learn the command line a tiny bit
[19:09] <silidan1> darkhamm: this is a windows related question i guess
[19:09] <antii> sebsebseb: its fine
[19:09] <yeldud> down loaded from web; but seems to be no connection; do I need to use command line
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: ,but then you want the  Ubuntu  8.04.2  server version, yes the LTS
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: LTS is recommended for proper servers,  since  5 years of support
[19:09] <sebsebseb> geboy: 3 for desktop LTS
[19:09] <sebsebseb> !lts |  geboy
[19:09] <geboy> @sebsebseb: ic
[19:10] <geboy> i'm usually using the server as the base of my squid
[19:10] <geboy> until recently i'm having some thought of trying using desktop
[19:10] <sebsebseb> geboy: you can run a server in the desktop version as well
[19:10] <geboy> sebsebseb: btw, it will run on vm tho
[19:11] <sebsebseb> geboy: the server is going to run in a vm?
[19:11] <geboy> sebsebseb: yup
[19:11] <sebsebseb> geboy: what's the host OS?
[19:11] <geboy> sebsebseb: xp
[19:11] <sebsebseb> oh dear
[19:11] <scunizi>  ouch
[19:11] <sebsebseb> no :(
[19:11] <nibbler__> hi. is it possible to display ctime in nautilus list mode? somehow this is missing in my view->visible columns :\
[19:11] <geboy> oh dear oh why?
[19:11] <geboy> tellme
[19:11] <geboy> :(
[19:11] <sebsebseb> geboy: Windows as host = bad,  unless your a newbie to Linux and just going to do some testing of it, before  doing a proper partitioned install
[19:12] <geboy> and the downside?
[19:12] <antii> Unstable, unfree
[19:12] <antii> etc :)
[19:12] <sebsebseb> geboy: which virtual machine program?
[19:12] <geboy> vmware
[19:12] <dunks__> windows server is stable.
[19:12] <desiNerd> its better to try out things in vm before doing a partitioned install....
[19:13] <geofft> What's the term for the things which are Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.? "variant"? "flavor"? "edition"?
[19:13] <desiNerd> i thing vmware is the best option
[19:13] <sebsebseb> dunks__: are you trolling in here now?  :D
[19:13] <dunks__> No, are you?
[19:13] <antii> :D
[19:13] <nibbler__> dunks__: i dont know many windows server which dont have a scheduled nightly reboot...
[19:13] <SjoerdM_> sry internet connection was away
[19:13] <dunks__> Well then you must have a pretty poorly setup production enviroment nibbler__
[19:13] <sebsebseb> geboy: which vmware product? VMware server? workstation?
[19:13] <geboy> desiNerd: the thing is, this squid server is not taking much resources
[19:13] <desiNerd> they alll differ on the the desktop manager...
[19:13] <dunks__> You do have one yes?
[19:13] <geboy> workstation 6
[19:13] <desiNerd> ok
[19:13] <SjoerdM_> okay im in text mode, problem was that somehow it was complaning that my home directory was listed as home/sjoerd but didnt exist anymore now i navigated to my home directory and i see that the sjoerd dir is still there?
[19:14] <nibbler__> dunks__: simple setups at various costumers
[19:14] <desiNerd> ubuntu: gonme , kubuntu: kde xubuntu: xfce etc
[19:14] <Pickenzak> nibbler__: Hehe, Nibbleeer! :)
[19:14] <sebsebseb> geboy: well  Linux tends to win when it comes to the proper OS technical stuff,  hence why  most of the Internet is run by Linux distros :)  ,but  also why most super computers run it
[19:14] <dunks__> Maybe you should re-evaluate how they're setup then if you have schedueled nightly reboots
[19:14] <desiNerd> yes ,,,absolutely right
[19:14] <PapaChub> Does anybody know of an NFS server that supports "map_static" in /etc/exports?
[19:14] <dunks__> Anyway, this is offtopic
[19:14] <PapaChub> nfs-kernel-server complains about "unknown keyword" and unfsd just says "syntax error" :-(
[19:14] <desiNerd> k
[19:15] <geboy> sebsebseb: actually i have run this squid server for a year in its own box
[19:15] <sebsebseb> geboy: with Windows well,  you might think your secure enough, but  really your not  or  whatever.  yeah viruses  and so on.   Windows  XP is a lot more likely to crash than  Ubuntu as well
[19:15] <geboy> sebsebseb: and see that its a waste of resource, coz it only utilizes the pc below 50%
[19:16] <ryan_> how do i move a directory or redfine the file path?
[19:16] <nibbler__> dunks__: its mainly affecting terminal/citrix servers, its common practice... its not that the server crashes, its that printers stop working etc.... it happens on simple installations.... nightly reboot is ofc not needed nightly, but you never know when something gets stuck....
[19:16] <SjoerdM_> anyone?
[19:16] <nibbler__> but this is an ubuntu channel, so sorry for offtopic chat :)
[19:16] <nibbler__> anyone any idea about how to display ctime in nautilus?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> geboy: well do  what you want,  but   a lot of people  that  know computers pretty well woudn't recommend Windows as a host OS
[19:17] <Pickenzak> ls -l /home/Sjoerd
[19:17] <Pickenzak> Or ls -l /home/sjoerd
[19:17] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: it gives total 16
[19:17] <Pickenzak> then its there
[19:17] <geboy> sebsebseb:thanks alot, seb. now i need some kind of enlightment. i wanna try using squid  in ubuntu desktop. ad see the performance
[19:18] <geboy> afterall its only a home network
[19:18] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: whats the problem...
[19:18] <geboy> less then 10 pcs to serve
[19:18] <geboy> :D
[19:18] <sebsebseb> geboy: don't know since not used it
[19:18] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: i will reboot and type the message exactly
[19:18] <Pickenzak> ok
[19:18] <tvburger> Hey guys, someone Xdmx running? got segfault straightaway]
[19:19] <PapaChub> SjoerdM_, Are you sure user homedir is /home/sjoerd ? Try:  echo ~   and:  ls -l ~
[19:19] <geboy> hello?
[19:19] <Mr_Giraffe> hey, I keep experiencing fairly regular freezes on Firefox where it takes up 100% of my CPU and stops responding for a few seconds. This happens every minute or so. Does anybody know how to fix it?
[19:19] <cousteau> I upgraded from ext3 to ext4 and now I'm having problems with grub
[19:20] <cousteau> (just because I didn't read all those advices about ext4 and grub...)
[19:20] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: flash issue
[19:20] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: ask the firefox folks
[19:20] <Narusegawa> I've accidentally broken grub, and can't find how to reinstall it. find /boot/grub/stage1 inside grub can't find file
[19:20] <SjoerdM_> "your home directory is listed as:' /home/sjoerd' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to login in with the / (root) directory as your homedirecotory? It is unlikeliy anything will work unless you use a failsafe session
[19:20] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: thats the error
[19:20] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, I don't even have flash up right now
[19:20] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: bad permissions on it
[19:20] <Mr_Giraffe> otherwise npviewer.bin would be using the CPU, right?
[19:21] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: any addon could be
[19:21] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: any addon could b
[19:21] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: what page ?
[19:21] <geboy> well then, i read that desktop and server having different kernel setup. whats the diffrent?
[19:21] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, any page will cause it at any time
[19:21] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: which permissions should it have? i already tried chmod 644
[19:21] <sebsebseb> geboy: ah yes   the server version is meant to have a kernel version which is better for servers
[19:21] <Mr_Giraffe> it happens once a minute, freezes for about 2-3 seconds, then stops
[19:21] <Mr_Giraffe> and everything is back to normal
[19:22] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: drwx------
[19:23] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: what dist, or windows ?
[19:23] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one
[19:24] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, 8.10
[19:24] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: is that chmod 777 ?
[19:24] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: 9.latest is much cooler
[19:24] <SjoerdM_> uh 755 sry
[19:24] <Pickenzak> Mr_Giraffe: upgrade
[19:24] <Mr_Giraffe> Pickenzak, I use this laptop for work, I don't have time to just upgrade
[19:25] <cjae> I need to bulk rename files and compare doubles any suggestions
[19:25] <Mr_Giraffe> and frankly I've heard enough about bugs from 9.x that I'm going to hold off on that
[19:25] <cjae> I see meld, but I am mainly in in kde environment
[19:25] <mohammed510> hi every body
[19:25] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: i think so, yes
[19:25] <PapaChub> cjae,   /bin/ls *.old | while read i; do mv -i "$i" "`echo $i | sed -e 's/new/old/'`"; done
[19:26] <Jeruvy> cjae: sed and awk are your friends :) ^^
[19:26] <desiNerd> awk....
[19:26] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: its '0755'
[19:26] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one
[19:26] <bruenig> Pickenzak: don't parse the otuput of ls
[19:26] <mohammed510> I couldn't understand the difference between the 4 types of repositroies in the ubuntu diestribution (( main ... restrictions ... universe ... multiverse))
[19:27] <mohammed510> Can any one  help me ??
[19:27] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: ty just editted it but it still gives the error...
[19:27] <bruenig> Pickenzak: for i in *.old; do mv -i "$i" "$(echo $i | sed 's/new/old')"; done
[19:27] <bruenig> so so much better
[19:27] <desiNerd> @moham...yeh whats the prob
[19:27] <PapaChub> bruenig, That fails on files with spaces
[19:27] <bruenig> PapaChub: it certainly does not
[19:27] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: could be that the files .bashrc and so on doesnt have the right permissions
[19:27] <bruenig> PapaChub: *.old is bash globbing, bash internall knows how to field separate its own globs
[19:27] <bruenig> internally*
[19:28] <desiNerd> very oftion......
[19:28] <bruenig> it is when you pipe external apps into bash that the separation messes up
[19:28] <bruenig> hence why you don't mess with ls
[19:28] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: could be, dont know it
[19:28] <mohammed510> Any one can help ?? I couldn't understand the difference between the 4 types of repositroies in the ubuntu diestribution (( main ... restrictions ... universe ... multiverse))
[19:28] <SjoerdM_> :(
[19:28] <Pickenzak> sjoerd__: ls -la | grep bash
[19:28] <dsdeiz> text based twitter client anyone? :D
[19:28] <PapaChub> bruenig, That's why to use "while read i" instead; each file is on its own line
[19:29] <dsdeiz> that is, aside from using curl
[19:29] <Pickenzak> -rw-r--r--+  1 MyUser MyUser     124 29 feb  2008 .bashrc
[19:29] <bruenig> PapaChub: *.old is just better, it doesn't require external apps nor the while read hackaround
[19:29] <CloudCarrier> mohammed510: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[19:29] <bruenig> just saying
[19:29] <bruenig> do what you want
[19:29] <desiNerd> @mohammed510.....it depends on the type of tooll.....everything cannt be put under a single repo
[19:29] <Tomi-871> Hi all! Yesterday I installed a 9.04 on a HP Pavilion zv5000 and had problems with the wireless driver (broadcom b43). It wasnt shown in the drivers list. I downloaded one through wired connection (i havent this option right now, typing from another computer). Now I have the b43 driver installed and activated and i have also a "software modem" in that list (cant activate it.) BUT I still cant connect to any wireless networ
[19:30] <SjoerdM_> -rw------ 1 root root 1110 Jul 6 20:25 .bash_history and -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 227 Dec 23 2008 .bashrc
[19:30] <SjoerdM_> Pickenzak: is that okay?
[19:30] <desiNerd> @tomi -- what are the probs your are facing
[19:30] <desiNerd> at what step your are getting stuck...when u t r trying to connect to the network
[19:31] <desiNerd> seem so
[19:31] <PapaChub> bruenig, On recent distros, perhaps...  I've been burned WAY too many times in the past by "#!/bin/sh" Bourne-shell scripts, I suppose
[19:31] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_: No, i dont think so... what caused it ?
[19:31] <desiNerd> for what
[19:31] <mohammed510> CloudCarrier: Restricted - Supported software that is not available under a completely free license
[19:31] <Pickenzak> -rw-r--r--+
[19:31] <Tomi-871> desinerd: even if I have the b43 driver installed I cant connect to wireless network
[19:31] <desiNerd> have you configureed things properly
[19:32] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM_. where you on irc too long to get craxxored ?
[19:32] <desiNerd> in your b43 driver
[19:32] <mohammed510> CloudCarrier: Does this means that it is not completely free of charge? or does it mean that it is not completely open source??
[19:32] <Tomi-871> yes, the computer cant find any network
[19:32] <bruenig> PapaChub: well, I am only talking about bash, I am not sure if this works for sh. Nonetheless, this has been standard bash behavior for a good 5-6 years at least
[19:32] <PapaChub> bruenig, Which is why I also explicitly type "/bin/ls" to ensure I don't get any fancy "-F" or color codes, etc.
[19:32] <desiNerd> @mohammed ...its the 2nd one...not completely open source
[19:32] <DarkMind> can any one help with grub ?
[19:32] <Tomi-871> after install i have to configure it? oops.
[19:32] <SjoerdM> Pickenzak: internet connection lost...
[19:33] <desiNerd> @darkmind,,,,whats the prob....dont ask to ask..jsut ask
[19:33] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM: righty
[19:33] <SjoerdM> Pickenzak: any ideas how to fix it?
[19:33] <DarkMind> i installed kubuntu after f11 and win7
[19:33] <DarkMind> and now i can boot only ubuntu and win7
[19:33] <DarkMind> and no entry for f11
[19:33] <mohammed510> desiNerd: Is this like the packages for mp3 ??
[19:33] <desiNerd> @tomi...yes ....you have to make sure all your network parameters are set properly...then only you can connet to the network..else not
[19:33] <DarkMind> i want to boot it has my imp data and backups
[19:34] <desiNerd> @mohammed...yeh...some decoders are not free. so you have to get the non-free extras
[19:34] <desiNerd> @darkmind...u r not clear
[19:35] <Tomi-871> desinerd: r u talking about configuring the network connection or configuring the driver? as i cant see any network the first one - if i understand u well - is not possible i think
[19:35] <brailsmt> I need both libldb and libmapi to compile the latest evolution, but using apt-get to install one, removes the other...  is there a way I can install both?
[19:35] <mohammed510> desiNerd : Now , I can understand , but I want to know why it can't be free as the most other packages in the cd , Specially the mp3 decoders?
[19:35] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one
[19:35] <Bluefalcon09> hello
[19:35] <DarkMind> look i got f11 and win7 installed on my lappy having 2hds 250 gb each okie .. now i installed ubuntu based bt4 os and after instalation i cannot boot any more f11 !!!
[19:35] <Paddy_NI> brailsmt: is there a ppa for the latest evolution?
[19:36] <proq> can someone point me to an alternative to lpr for printing a pdf from command-line?  lpr will print text documents, but it won't print any PDFs here
[19:36] <brailsmt> Paddy_NI: i have no idea...
[19:36] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM: chmod 640 /home/.bashrc      (or 644, not sure)
[19:36] <Paddy_NI> I also think you may need a more recent gnome in order for that to work
[19:36] <Paddy_NI> brailsmt: ^
[19:36] <Paddy_NI> so that would be a bit of a difficult undertaking
[19:37] <brailsmt> i've been compiling the thing from scratch, but it doesn't like compiling evolution-mapi
[19:37] <Pickenzak> Paddy_NI: You mean a 'TTA'
[19:37] <Pickenzak> Time to arrival
[19:37] <Paddy_NI> !ppa
[19:37] <PapaChub> bruenig, Ahh, the reason I've become accustomed to "/bin/ls | while read i;..." is when using find(1).  "find . -name '*.old' | while read i" works better than "for i in `find . -name '*.old'`"
[19:37] <DarkMind> i have no entry in boot for my f11 after installation of ubuntu .. how can i boot it now it has my all data !
[19:37] <Pickenzak> LOL!
[19:37] <PapaChub> You're right that for simple cases, "for i in *" does suffice.
[19:38] <Pickenzak> NewKidsOnTehBl0xx0r we see
[19:38] <joe_> hey i am new to Ubuntu how do i change my username and password at login
[19:38] <satya2881988> friends
[19:39] <yeldud> change user name a edit; Preferences
[19:39] <desiNerd> @satya....what friends....???
[19:39] <kerimbasol> joe: you will write at terminal passwd
[19:39] <DarkMind> @desiNerd i have no entry in boot for my f11 after installation of ubuntu .. how can i boot it now it has my all data !
[19:39] <gizmobay> Does anyone know where this screensaver or blanker image is coming from http://imagebin.org/54608?
[19:39] <Pickenzak> satya2881988: FRIEND Omg teh.Starrz!
[19:40] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot because i have a hdd having badblocks but only one partition doesnt hv badblocks
[19:40] <desiNerd> @darkmind....do you have the ubuntu live cd..use that for repairing ....
[19:40] <_ibrahim_> hi
[19:40] <DarkMind> reparing of what ?
[19:40] <desiNerd> your installation
[19:40] <DarkMind> ubuntu is workin
[19:40] <JBauer> I recently had some problems with Ubuntu, repaired them but now the login screen sais it can't find theme.xml. In adition, I can't change add any themes. Now I don't have one\
[19:40] <_ibrahim_> anyone german here? i've got troubles with firefox 3.5
[19:40] <DarkMind> f11 isnt !! which has my data
[19:40] <joe_> yeldud: thank you i will see if that works
[19:40] <djiezes> !de > _ibrahim_
[19:41] <_ibrahim_> thx
[19:41] <desiNerd> @dark...then login to your ubuntu , then just mount your fedora11 partitions and pull out the data or whatever your want
[19:41] <DarkMind> i m right now on ubuntu
[19:42] <desiNerd> thats it...all right
[19:42] <DarkMind> but i cannot see any data because of LVM2 format
[19:42] <DarkMind> it gives error !
[19:42] <desiNerd> run this: sudo fdisk -l
[19:42] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot because i have a hdd having badblocks but only one partition doesnt hv badblocks
[19:42] <Bluefalcon09> hey i started a channel named #BRAN if anybody wants to join they can
[19:42] <desiNerd> are you able to see your fedora partitions ... are then ext3???
[19:43] <DarkMind> desiNerd: no they are linux LVM
[19:43] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : /dev/sda2              26       30401   243991201   8e  Linux LVM
[19:43] <desiNerd> whats the outut of fdisk -l
[19:43] <DarkMind> here it is
[19:43] <desiNerd> lvm is the volume manager
[19:43] <desiNerd> just this one only....
[19:43] <DarkMind> no
[19:43] <DarkMind> wait
[19:43] <DarkMind> lemme copy all
[19:43] <desiNerd> get the full lone...
[19:43] <desiNerd> ok
[19:44] <DarkMind> should i copy
[19:44] <DarkMind> ?
[19:44] <DarkMind> here
[19:44] <DarkMind> paste here
[19:44] <DarkMind> i mean
[19:44] <FloodBot2> DarkMind: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <desiNerd> wit
[19:44] <desiNerd> wait
[19:44] <desiNerd> use pastebin
[19:44] <desiNerd> as told by flood
[19:44] <desiNerd> and put the link here
[19:44] <DarkMind> okie am pasting there with my nick
[19:44] <desiNerd> fine
[19:44] <desiNerd> get me the link
[19:45] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot because i have a hdd having badblocks but only one partition doesnt hv badblocks
[19:45] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211464/
[19:45] <DarkMind> here
[19:45] <amoignes> p
[19:45] <desiNerd> k wait a min
[19:45] <Fzang_> Hi, I just switched from kde to gnome and now it closes kdm, so im left with a blank screen. How do I get back to GUI?
[19:46] <desiNerd> @fzang_ alt+ctrl+bakc will restart desktop manager
[19:46] <satya2881988> can anyone tell me how to disable filesystem check at boot
[19:46] <MrKeuner> satya2881988, http://www.google.com/search?q=changing%20fsck%20frequency&hl=en
[19:46] <tonii> why would you want to do that?
[19:47] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : saw it ?
[19:47] <adi__> desiNerd, don't works. first must edit xorg.conf
[19:47] <desiNerd> @darkmind...you have two disks..right??and i think currently your are using the second one..sdb, right? then
[19:47] <Fzang> desiNerd: Nothing happens :s
[19:47] <DarkMind> yess
[19:47] <MrKeuner> satya2881988, you can also hit esc
[19:47] <DarkMind> yess
[19:47] <DarkMind> i installed ubuntu in sdb second disk
[19:47] <DarkMind> am on partions with } sign
[19:47] <DarkMind> * sign !!
[19:48] <erUSUL> !enter | DarkMind desiNerd
[19:48] <desiNerd> k then run this...so you just have to mount the first disk...where your f11 sits, right?
[19:48] <DarkMind> run what
[19:48] <DarkMind> ?
[19:49] <SjoerdM___> pff still not working :( "your home directory is listed as:' /home/sjoerd' but it does not appear to exist. Do you want to login in with the / (root) directory as your homedirecotory? It is unlikeliy anything will work unless you use a failsafe session" pff anyone else a solution?
[19:49] <MidnightDevil> hi
[19:49] <desiNerd> now tell me, what partition you want to pull data from, full sda or a part of it?
[19:49] <MidnightDevil> how can i install dr17 on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[19:50] <Titan8990> sjoerd__, create a homedir for the user? Use adduser to add new users insted of useradd?
[19:50] <DarkMind> i want to pull data from sda 2 which has LVM manager !! its f11 and has data and backup
[19:50] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: problem is that the dir exists...
[19:51] <SjoerdM___> DarkMind, i tried sharing the directory and think someting went wrong
[19:51] <Titan8990> SjoerdM, there is a space in that error
[19:51] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-e17-enlightenment-desktop-in-ubuntu.html
[19:51] <Titan8990> SjoerdM, looks like it thinks your homedir is:   \ /home/sjoerd
[19:51] <MidnightDevil> ty coz_ :)
[19:51] <DarkMind> /dev/sda1 is boot !  /dev/sda2  is f11 so it has all data !
[19:51] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  there is a beta e17 with compiz installed
[19:51] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: how can i check this? i typed th error so maybe i made a typo
[19:52] <desiNerd> k now create a directory with a name say recover in your home directory, and mount the partition sda2 using the following command: sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home/<yournamae>/recover
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> awesome :D
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> is on that site?
[19:52] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  let me find that hold on
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> okay :)
[19:52] <SjoerdM___> DarkMind: shall i check it first ;)
[19:52] <meglo> Ubuntu-Desktop livecd with Ubiquity installer: In 9.04 is it at all possible to use ecryptfs for /home? I didn't see it when I tried to install, but I hear about boot parameters to enable the feature before booting the livecd.
[19:52] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, grep -i sjoerd /etc/passwd
[19:52] <MidnightDevil> i've been a fan of enlightenment since i remember... it would be awesome with compiz in it
[19:52] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : okie lemme do it !
[19:52] <anghel> hello
[19:52] <scott_ino2> anyone with mobility radeon HD 3400 and proprietary ati drivers have working suspend?
[19:52] <anghel> how can i make to work pidgin ??
[19:52] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  its called ELive  but it is a complete distribution so you can download and burn the ELive live cd and test it
[19:53] <SjoerdM___> ... :/home/sjoerd:/bin/bash
[19:53] <desiNerd> and then  cd to that directory.....and now its like any other current partition...do whatever you want
[19:53] <MidnightDevil> hum i tried elive a while ago, its kinda buggy tho
[19:53] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  I believe it is based on ubuntu though
[19:53] <MidnightDevil> i'll give it a go :)
[19:53] <evonise`emp> i've asked questions today before about my problem on installing ubuntu on my Acer Aspire 1310 laptop. the problem is that it keeps freezing while installing. i tried a drive fitness test, the ubuntu memtest, the cd check, the alternate install cd, but my problem stays there. what can i do?
[19:53] <MidnightDevil> tks a lot coz_
[19:53] <coz_> MidnightDevil,  no problem   I have already tested ELIve  it looks promising :)
[19:53] <scott_ino2> or anyone who can help me diagnose or know tricks on getting ati and suspend to work
[19:54] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : mount: mount point /home/hasan/recover does not exist
[19:54] <desiNerd> @dark...done ? or still facing problems
[19:55] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : mount: mount point /home/hasan/recover does not exist
[19:55] <desiNerd> @i told you to create a directory with that name...a blank dirctory...run this in your home directory...mkdir recover
[19:55] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: ... :/home/sjoerd:/bin/bash looks okay?
[19:55] <DarkMind> okie
[19:56] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, yep, looks good
[19:56] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: whats the next step i could try?
[19:56] <coz_> scott_ino2, look here  maybe there is something explained there  they do talk about ati and suspend on that page  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Suspend.2FHibernation
[19:56] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, what were you trying to do in the first place?
[19:56] <DarkMind> desiNerd, : root@smoke:/home/dark# sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home/dark/recover
[19:56] <DarkMind> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[19:56] <SjoerdM___> i was setting up a webserver for home use, and tried sharing my home directory and a couple of other directories, everything looked fine till i did a reboot
[19:56] <deany> Upgraded virtualbox and the network device has changed, so ubuntu (server) is saying it no longer exists, how do I get it working again?
[19:57] <scott_ino2> coz_, ty
[19:57] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: so that could be the problem
[19:57] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, shard how?
[19:57] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, webdav?
[19:57] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: what do you mean?
[19:57] <sandy_> with winamp, a playlist/library is only updated on request....with banshee and rythmbox it seems to need an update each reboot which takes time....is there a simpler program?
[19:57] <hqrsie> I'm trying to install 9.04 on an old Toshiba laptop (xp era centrino).  I select to boot from CD and have a working copy in the drive.  It spins for around 45 sec then boots back to XP without showing installation menu
[19:57] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, when you say that you shared you home directory, what did you actually do?
[19:58] <Tomi-871> @desinerd the b43 again. did u mean i have to configure the network connection or something with the driver? Because I cant see any networks so the first one i cant do (if i understood u well)
[19:58] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: right click it, sharing options and set all to read write,
[19:58] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, oh, I don't know anything about samba or windows crap
[19:59] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: well me neither so i want to restore everything like it was
[19:59] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, try: chmod -R 644 /home/sjoerd
[19:59] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, there may be negative side-effects however
[20:00] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: okay rebootng now
[20:00] <Pickenzak> SjoerdM___: agreed, wont be a bad thing to do
[20:00] <akos_> Hi! The GNOME 2.26 release notes says that there is a new Volume Control app (http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.26/#rnusers.volume), however I can't find it (I'm using Jaunty).
[20:00] <th0r> Titan8990: directories have to be executable
[20:01] <cjae> PapaChub, Jeruvy sorry that seem a little over my head ;)
[20:01] <Pickenzak> akos_: add to the panel
[20:01] <Titan8990> th0r, to list contents it does, yes
[20:01] <th0r> Titan8990: to get into it I think it does
[20:01] <ronj> hello
[20:01] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: still get tehe same message
[20:01] <cjae> has anyone used kdiff?
[20:01] <Pickenzak> akos_: It could be Horizon-Tal :)
[20:01] <DarkMind> how can i mount LVM2 partion in ubuntu ??????
[20:01] <danbhfive> akos_: I don't know about that, but there is a PA volume control app that you can install
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, probably need install lvm
[20:02] <DarkMind> how i can i install it
[20:02] <DarkMind> ?
[20:02] <Rictoo> on dapper drake, what's the default dhcp client?
[20:02] <Rictoo> my bro is having network problems
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, i saw earlier, your trying to mount the physical partition
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, you can't do that
[20:02] <DarkMind> yess and i failed
[20:02] <ronj> I'm looking for a way to know in which package an installed binary comes from, and can't get Google to answer me. anybody?
[20:02] <Pickenzak> padevcontrol
[20:02] <Titan8990> DarkMind, you have to mount the logical parition: eg - /dev/vg/usr
[20:02] <DarkMind> it gives error root@smoke:/home/dark# sudo mount /dev/sda2 /home/dark/recover
[20:02] <DarkMind> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[20:02] <ratkymarcell> re. Can anyone please help with the following:
[20:02] <ratkymarcell> hi! how can I "unmount" a special usb device, which seems to be at /dev/ttyUSB0, and cannot be unmounted, because it dont need to be mounted at all? It's a microcontroller programming unit, and I'd like to have acces to it via a virtualboxed XP. That's why [host] ubuntu has to release it...
[20:03] <Titan8990> thats because that a physical partition
[20:03] <Titan8990> DarkMind, you need to mount one of its volumes
[20:03] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : so now what u think i should do
[20:03] <DarkMind> ?
[20:03] <jadew> so... I used to compile stuff on my ubuntu 8.10 and run it on another machine (red-hat kernel 2.6.9), now I upgraded to 9.04 and I can't run my code anymore on that machine, I get FATAL: kernel too old wth is that?
[20:03] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: /dev/ttyUSB0 is a serial device/port like /dev/ttyS0
[20:03] <akos_> danbhfive, Pickenzak : thanks
[20:03] <danbhfive> ronj: there is a dpkg command, something like dpkg -S
[20:03] <Rictoo> what's the default dhcp client on Dapper Drake?
[20:03] <Titan8990> DarkMind, mount the volume you need to mount??
[20:03] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: if i click yes (login with /) i get the message User's $HOME/.dmrc file is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File should be owned by user and have 644 permisions. User's $HOME directory must be owned by user and not writable by other users
[20:03] <Rictoo> or daemon*
[20:03] <Pickenzak> akos_: np
[20:04] <ratkymarcell> df
[20:04] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : i tried but how can i mount that logical volume
[20:04] <DarkMind> ?
[20:04] <tonii> jadew: exactly what it tells you, the kernel is to old
[20:04] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: you do not "mount" it you access it with some special program or a generic serial client like minicom
[20:04] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, chown -R sjoerd:sjoerd /home/sjoerd
[20:04] <jadew> well, what's the problem what got changed, how can I fix that?
[20:04] <Titan8990> DarkMind, sudo mount /dev/vg/NAMEHERE /mnt/mountpoint
[20:04] <Titan8990> DarkMind, I don't know how you set up the volumes
[20:04] <EgyCoder09> hi all , can i know what is my ram type ( DDR1 , DDR2 ) from ubunto without any hardware solutions like see the ram ??
[20:05] <ratkymarcell> erUSUL, okay, but Ubuntu somohow holds it. So, the xp in virtualbox cannot acces this device.
[20:05] <tonii> jadew: I suppose you mean new binaries compiled under 9.04 can't be run on the redhat?
[20:05] <evonise`emp> i've asked questions today before about my problem on installing ubuntu on my Acer Aspire 1310 laptop. the problem is that it keeps freezing while installing. i tried a drive fitness test, the ubuntu memtest, the cd check, the alternate install cd, but my problem stays there. what can i do?
[20:05] <Spec> EgyCoder09: i believe there's a way to dump your bios information
[20:05] <jadew> tonii: yeah
[20:05] <Titan8990> EgyCoder09, easiest to just look at the speed in the BIOS
[20:05] <jadew> they used to work when I compiled them on 8.10
[20:05] <Titan8990> EgyCoder09, lshw might tell though
[20:05] <Spec> EgyCoder09: dmidecode
[20:05] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : i didnot i had it because i had f11 before and i installed kubuntu and after that i had no entry for boot of f11 !!!
[20:05] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: i do not use Vbox i dunno if you can share host's serial devices with the guest OS ask in #vbox
[20:05] <Spec> EgyCoder09: yeah, dmidecode will tell you
[20:06] <tonii> jadew: upgrade kernel in redhat. if there is no way to compile for older kernels.
[20:06] <Spec> just double checked
[20:06] <danbhfive> evonise`emp: you probably should file a bug report on launchpad
[20:06] <ronj> danbhfive, that's exactly what I needed. thanks!
[20:06] <Titan8990> DarkMind, run: sudo vgscan
[20:07] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: hm still nothing
[20:07] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : The program 'vgscan' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:07] <DarkMind> apt-get install lvm2
[20:07] <DarkMind> bash: vgscan: command not found
[20:07] <jadew> I can't upgrade that kernel with out like... a week of useless work. This lack of backward compatibility is completely retarded. Linux.
[20:07] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, just make a new user and move all the contents from the home folder, then stay away from crappy MS protocols and ACLs
[20:07] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : am installing lvm2 now !
[20:07] <erUSUL> ratkymarcell: google is your friend http://techtooltip.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/using-host-serial-port-from-guest-in-virtual-box/
[20:07] <Titan8990> DarkMind, k
[20:08] <tonii> jadew: don't know much about compiling, but there probably is a way to compile the code for older kernels.
[20:08] <jadew> tonii: yeah, I'll ask the glibc guys, I have a feeling that it's their fault
[20:08] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: will all software still work that i installed?
[20:09] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, yes everything should be the same only with a different username
[20:09] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : root@smoke:/home/dark# vgscan
[20:09] <DarkMind>   Reading all physical volumes.  This may take a while...
[20:09] <DarkMind>   Found volume group "VolGroup" using metadata type lvm2
[20:09] <EgyCoder09> Spec: i can know the size but i want to know it's DDR1 or DDR2 ??
[20:09] <red_> my x server keeps on freezing. is ther any way to check a log to see what causing this?
[20:09] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, you will need to fix perms after you copy the data
[20:09] <tonii> jadew: sounds like a good idea. :)
[20:09] <routh> (Repeat) I have an issue with an NFS share under Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit - The NFS share is being exported fine, and mounting corrrectly. Although the export is set for full read-write access however, only the 'root' user or a user running 'sudo' can change the files from the client. Anyone experienced with NFS here?
[20:09] <evonise`emp> danbhfive, how can i do that?
[20:09] <Titan8990> DarkMind, now: fdisk -l
[20:09] <puff> I have a file that has a .rtf extension but when I open it in openoffice it appears to contain gibberish.  How would If igureout what sort of file format it is?
[20:09] <danbhfive> !bug | evonise`emp
[20:09] <puff> The file commands says it's Rich Text Format but that may just be becaues of the extension.
[20:09] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: is there a link or tutorial? or is it just very easy?
[20:09] <puff> b
[20:10] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : am pasting in pastebin
[20:10] <schummelpilz> i have problems configuring gnome-network-manager correctly. i can connect to my pptp vpn server at home but i cant ping computers in my LAN or do anything like it. you can find logfiles here: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/problem-mit-pptp-vpn-auf-wrt54gl/
[20:10] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, its very trivial to me but I am an experienced user
[20:10] <erUSUL> puff: file does not use the file extension to find out what a file is
[20:10] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211480/
[20:10] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: hm okay well im just a nooby ;)
[20:11] <EgyCoder09> i want to know my ram type is it DDR1 or DDR2 ??? help me
[20:11] <tonii> EgyCoder09: check bios?
[20:11] <erUSUL> EgyCoder09: dmidecode | less
[20:11] <Titan8990> DarkMind, it looks like something has altered the geometry of your disk
[20:11] <evonise`emp> ubottu: how can i do a command if i cant install ubuntu?
[20:11] <Titan8990> DarkMind, does sda1 mount properly?
[20:11] <Rictoo> what's the default dhcp client on Dapper Drake?/daemon
[20:11] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : yess am right now on it !
[20:11] <Spec> EgyCoder09: look in dmidecode
[20:11] <mechajunior> hi
[20:11] <erUSUL> Rictoo: dhclient
[20:11] <evonise`emp> danbhfive how can i do a command if i cant install ubuntu?
[20:12] <Spec> EgyCoder09: sudo dmidecode > file.txt, and pastebin the results and i'll tell you
[20:12] <Titan8990> DarkMind, lucky, if it was ntfs it would be toast
[20:12] <routh> I have an issue with an NFS share under Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit - The NFS share is being exported fine, and mounting corrrectly. Although the export is set for full read-write access however, only the 'root' user or a user running 'sudo' can change the files from the client. Anyone experienced with NFS here? I'm just running out of time for this, getting frustrated. My apologies. Every howto and forum post I've read says
[20:12] <mechajunior> why cant you install ubuntu ??
[20:12] <routh> my config on both the server and client are correct, however my issue is unchanged. I should have full RW access.. but only superusers do. I have info on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m739c2af2
[20:12] <cjae> How do I use kdiff to weed out duplicate mp3's, I am not sure this program is for that sort of thing
[20:12] <danbhfive> evonise`emp: you want the manual option.  File a bug report through that link, and include all the steps you have taken.  Hopefully, someone will be able to help you figure out what is going on
[20:12] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : prob i think is that it sda1 is replaced by ubuntu boot ! :S
[20:12] <evonise`emp> danbhfive ok thanks
[20:13] <M0E_lnx> does anyone know how to make os-prober detect the os installed to the running / ?
[20:13] <Titan8990> DarkMind, what do you mean?
[20:13] <erUSUL> cjae: no it is not meant for that type of task afaik
[20:13] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: can you spit some command? :D
[20:13] <Spec> EgyCoder09: My 'sudo dmidecode' clearly tells me I have Type: DDR2 FB-DIMM
[20:13] <tonii> routh: dows the user have permissions to alter files on the nfs-share, or just root?
[20:13] <nowimproved> My url bar is blinking with an autofill in every time i type even like two letters. Its annoying, anyone have a solution?
[20:13] <nowimproved> just started recently
[20:13] <tonii> does.
[20:13] <Rictoo> erUSUL, how do you use dhclient -.-
[20:13] <Spec> dhclient <iface>
[20:14] <EgyCoder09> Spec : in which part ??
[20:14] <erUSUL> Rictoo: sudo dhclient «iface»
[20:14] <Spec> EgyCoder09: pastebin it?
[20:14] <Titan8990> DarkMind, run: sudo vgdisplay & sudo lvdisplay
[20:14] <EgyCoder09> Spec : ok
[20:14] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : i mean i had sda1 was boot partition of f11 of 200mb and sda2 was f11 ! and now after installation ubuntu is using same sda1 for its boot u can see the * sign !!!
[20:14] <Spec> EgyCoder09: 'cause it's not obvious :p
[20:14] <erUSUL> Rictoo: where iface is eth0 or wlan0 or ppp0 or whatever
[20:14] <routh> tonii: As far as I know, ALL users should have full read write access.. according to the How To's
[20:15] <tonii> routh: hm, was some time ago I played with nfs. I
[20:15] <tonii> I'll look through the pastebin
[20:15] <fastputty> how do i change the svn client user ?
[20:15] <fastputty> svn commit will use by default the old one how can i change it
[20:15] <yooy> hi
[20:15] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : http://paste.ubuntu.com/211483/
[20:15] <DarkMind> here i pasted dem in it
[20:15] <cjae> erUSUL, do you know of something I can use to do this?
[20:16] <tonii> routh: hm, isn't mounts through fstab mounted as root, and as such only root is able to alter the files?
[20:16] <erUSUL> !info fdupes
[20:16] <vegombrei> whats the difference between gnome and kde? what happens if i installed a kde package on gnome?
[20:16] <sebsebseb> !gnome |  vegombrei
[20:17] <sebsebseb> !kde |  vegombrei
[20:17] <red_> my x server keeps on freezing. what is the log to check a log to see what causing this?
[20:17] <Rictoo> erUSUL, my bro ran it and said a bunch of stuff scrolled by
[20:17] <Rictoo> and while it was running he tried to ping his router
[20:17] <Rictoo> but it said host unreachable
[20:17] <sebsebseb> !xubuntu |  vegombrei
[20:18] <erUSUL> Rictoo: well it would help to see that stuff to see what the problem is
[20:18] <indus> !ff3.5
[20:18] <danbhfive> red_: I think: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:18] <EgyCoder09> Spec: http://pastebin.com/m64e25c05
[20:18] <indus> hello i have got firefox 3.5 in jaunty
[20:18] <indus> its final  i believe
[20:18] <routh> tonii: Thats what I'm unsure of, the HOWTO's I followed seem to indicate this setup allows full RW.. but it doesn't.. I want the shar to load at boot for all users, is there a setting I can change in FSTAB to allow this?
[20:18] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: and then you can choose which one you want to run from the log in screen,   also  KDE apps can run in Gnome, just like Gnome apps can run in KDE,  most of them
[20:18] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : dere ?
[20:18] <Spec> EgyCoder09: you have DRAM
[20:18] <indus> just updated
[20:18] <vegombrei> wow thanks ubottu :)
[20:18] <EgyCoder09> spec : more details plz
[20:19] <gilles> How do I find out what directory my USB drive is at, I need to unmount it :/
[20:19] <EgyCoder09> Spec: 1 or 2 ?
[20:19] <Titan8990> DarkMind, sudo mount /dev/VolGroup/lv_root /mnt/foobar
[20:19] <Rictoo> erUSUL, it says "listening on *mac address* sending on *mac* then dhcp discover on blabla 3, then diff interval number"
[20:19] <gilles> vegombrei: Ubottu is a bot :)
[20:19] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: there is even a way to run the older KDE3 :)  which I prefer to KDE4,  except for some of it's apps which I run in Gnome anyway so :)   so the Live CD  and the repo
[20:19] <Rictoo> then finally "no dhcp offers received"
[20:19] <sebsebseb> !kde3 >  vegombrei
[20:19] <Titan8990> DarkMind, /dev/VolGroup/lv_root is the volume you are wanting to mount
[20:19] <Spec> EgyCoder09: 1
[20:19] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: wanted to do that in the channel really
[20:19] <Spec> EgyCoder09: as it doesn't say two
[20:19] <DarkMind> ahaan
[20:19] <xy_42> hi - i am trying to execute a binary built on another machine.  It gives segmentation fault when I run it.  What are the options I have?
[20:19] <EgyCoder09> Spec: can i know it from my proccessor speed ?
[20:19] <tonii> routh: as I said, was sime time ago I played with NFS. I'd have to look up some info to answer you correctly :)
[20:19] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : and /mnt/foobar is created or i should creat ?
[20:20] <Spec> EgyCoder09: you have a 512 mb DIMM, DRAM in bank 1, in bank 2 you have a 1024 mb DIMM/DRAM, both are at 533 mhz
[20:20] <EgyCoder09> Spec: coz my proc is 2.0 GHZ
[20:20] <xy_42> the binary was built on a ubuntu machine
[20:20] <Spec> EgyCoder09: no
[20:20] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: so which one is the least processor hungry from the lot?
[20:20] <Spec> EgyCoder09: i just told you everything important about your memory that's available :p
[20:20] <Titan8990> DarkMind, whenever you see foobar it is a variable intended to be replaced
[20:20] <Titan8990> DarkMind, make it or change it, your choice
[20:20] <DarkMind> okie
[20:20] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: Xubuntu probably,   then Gnome,  then I expect  KDE 3, and then KDE 4
[20:20] <EgyCoder09> Spec: thanks
[20:21] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: proccessor or do you mean RAM?
[20:21] <puff> erUSUL: okay, so it's RTF, how od I get it to be not-gibbrish?
[20:21] <gilles> Why can't I output stuff to /dev/sdb1 (my USB stick)?
[20:21] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : mount: special device /dev/VolGroup/lv_root does not exist
[20:21] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: also there are loads of lite waight window managers
[20:21] <erUSUL> puff: i would try another word processor like abiword...
[20:22] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: please? ;)
[20:22] <erUSUL> puff: maybe the file is just corrupt... can you get a fresh copy ? redownload ?
[20:22] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: well yeah .. both actually ... processor, and ram
[20:22] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : mount: special device /dev/VolGroup/lv_root does not exist
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !windowmanager
[20:22] <sebsebseb> !wm
[20:22] <tonii> routh: you need to add "rw" to your fstab on the client ;) http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s04.html#nfs_boot_time
[20:23] <Titan8990> SjoerdM___, sudo adduser test && sudo cp -al /home/sjoerd /home/test && sudo chown -R test:test /home/test
[20:23] <Titan8990> DarkMind, not sure man
[20:23] <DarkMind> ummm
[20:23] <SjoerdM___> Titan8990: ty later on i can rename it ? and restore everything?
[20:23] <DarkMind> wat u suggest then
[20:23] <DarkMind> ?
[20:23] <Titan8990> DarkMind, sudo lvscan
[20:23] <Titan8990> DarkMind, then try again, if it doesn't work, I recommend the forums
[20:24] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: here's a useful site in your case http://xwinman.org/
[20:24] <DarkMind> root@smoke:/mnt# lvscan
[20:24] <DarkMind>   inactive          '/dev/VolGroup/lv_root' [226.91 GB] inherit
[20:24] <DarkMind>   inactive          '/dev/VolGroup/lv_swap' [5.78 GB] inherit
[20:24] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: this pc is a 3.4ghz p4 1gb 64mb gnome kinda brings it to its knees .. i disabled compiz but if you say xubuntu is lighter ill try that out
[20:24] <routh> tonii: ok I tried that, and removed it - because there was no change
[20:24] <DarkMind> Titan8990, :
[20:24] <tonii> routh: tried it, and remounted?
[20:24] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: check out the link I just gave you,   those window managers and such  they will be lite
[20:24] <puff> Eruaran: I have the imopession that re-downloading is not feasible, but I'll try abiword first.
[20:24] <routh> tonii: yep.. I'm going to readd it and remount now.. but I think this may be based around the UID
[20:25] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: thanks :)
[20:25] <DarkKrai> Does anyone know of a script that executes a shell script on right click?
[20:25] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: np  by the way  Xubuntu to me is just a cut down version of Gnome,  that isn't  as good
[20:26] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : dunno bro it isnt working i hope datas lost ! i think i ill go for format all OS !!!!
[20:27] <Titan8990> DarkMind, might want to avoid lvm unless your looking to do a lot of learning with it
[20:27] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: dude too many options on that link .. you got any recommendation?
[20:27] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: :)  yeah Linux is all about choice
[20:27] <epaphus> Hey guys, how do I uncompress a gz file..? through the command prompot
[20:27] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : what u suggest ? format or some more trying ?
[20:28] <tonii> routh: I'm off, need to get some sleep. hope you can solve the problem though. :)
[20:28] <cjae> when you copy commmands from a website and paste them into the terminal, why sometimes does it hit enter for you?
[20:28] <routh> tonii: thanks - night mate
[20:28] <max__> hey
[20:28] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: personally  I didn't get that far wm trying,  because I ended up with something  I didn't like or whatever,  but  Fluxbox and Enlightment are pretty popular these days,  however I would rather use XFCE/Xubuntu  unless  I  used the Elive CD or something, which I haven't tried yet,  where they have made  Enlightment good
[20:28] <max__> whats up dawg
[20:28] <Slart> cjae: because sometimes you copy the newline character too
[20:28] <routh> cjae: There was a newline or enter char on the end of the line that you copied
[20:29] <cjae> ah ok thanks
[20:29] <Slart> cjae: be sure to just mark enough so you get the last character, that usually works
[20:29] <DarkMind> Titan8990, : thx anyways !!! :)
[20:29] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: Gnome and KDE the two most  popular,  then  XFCE
[20:30] <scottj> i've got a fresh install of 8.10, and still having slow web connection on all web apps. isp is fine, and modem confirms it. lookin for definitive advice ONLY plz
[20:30] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: oh ok .. so switching desktops wont really ease the stress basically
[20:30] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: you can install loads of wm's and such,  and try
[20:30] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: what is the stress exactly?
[20:30] <erUSUL> epaphus: gunzip file.gz
[20:31] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: things are slow?  how much RAM?
[20:33] <fergus> /j #zagaia
[20:33] <scottj> do i understand correctly that a static ip will improve lookup speeds?
[20:33] <ikonia> scottj: no
[20:34] <scottj> iknoia, elaborate
[20:34] <ikonia> scottj: it won't improve lookups
[20:34] <scottj> gee thanks for the elaboration.....
[20:34] <ikonia> scottj: what do you want me to say ?
[20:35]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[20:35] <Dulak> scottj: the client's ip has zero correlation with the time it takes to do a lookup.  Static or Dynamic, it's still just an ip requesting a lookup.
[20:35] <ikonia> !away > D3f0
[20:37] <scottj> dulak thanks, that sorta helps. so much for all the know it alls i encounter during google searches huh?  anychance you can assist in narrowing down what is boggin down my web apps in 8.10? didn't have this issue in winxp
[20:37] <ikonia> scottj: what is in your /etc/resolv.conf file
[20:37] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: its like my display card fan .. goes flat out at times gets a little annoying mate
[20:38] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: hmm sounds like some sort of hardware issue to me
[20:38] <Dulak> scottj: the problem is on load?  As in it takes a long time to load up a page you request for the first time?  How are multiple hits to the same page?  If you refresh a page a couple times is it nice and fast on the refresh, or just as slow as the initial load?
[20:38] <ilyako> Sa
[20:39] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: display card fan??    what did you mean by flat out?
[20:39] <scottj> dulak its slow all around. pages take forever to load, on the order of 30-45 secs, torrents just barely trickle, but i'm sure that is another subject all together
[20:40] <ikonia> scottj: what's in your /etc/resolv.conf file
[20:40] <scottj> ikonia i don't know, how do i find out
[20:40] <ikonia> scottj: open that file in a text editor
[20:41] <scottj> that doesn't help me, i'm new to ubuntu
[20:41] <ubu_> hi,does someone have a mp510 the french wiki thing(*DefaultInputSlot: asf -> *DefaultInputSlot:frontplain) doesn't work
[20:41] <Cube> hey can somebody PM me i'm testing if it's working?
[20:41] <ikonia> Cube: please keep this channel for ubuntu support
[20:42] <sebsebseb> ubu_: Do you maybe want the French Ubuntu channel?
[20:42] <Cube> ikonia: pardon me brah
[20:42] <ubu_> sebsebseb, nobody is responding there
[20:42] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: flat out is when somethings running at its max possible speed
[20:42] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: and display fan?
[20:43] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: like fffffflat out :)
[20:43] <roman> ВСЕМ ПРИВЕТ!!!
[20:43] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: anwyay ##hardware is the channel for hardware issues
[20:43] <scottj> dulak you think you can help?
[20:44] <palomer> french people never respond
[20:44] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: yeah im sure its that coz it only happens when youre surfing like one of those porn sites or something with flash video ... thats it .. my dispays on heat and the fan goes absolutely flat out
[20:44] <Dulak> scottj: wish I could mate, but I've gotta leave, sorry
[20:44] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: oh in Firefox?
[20:44] <sage_> came today :>
[20:44] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: I have had problems where  Firefox in Ubuntu made my computer go really bad, and slow and yeah
[20:44] <mdwright> Does anyone have any experience getting a kickstart install working with 9.04? I have it working in 8.04 but need help getting it working on 9.04
[20:45] <scottj> ok thanks anyway, dulak, but can ya point me in the right direction? something i could read up on? this seems to be a fairly common problem with ubuntu users but the only solutions i find involve turning off ipv6 and that didn't help
[20:46] <usr13> Is Ubuntu9.04-PS3 32bit or 64bit?
[20:46] <vegombrei> sebsebseb: sebsebseb i guess its time to upgrade for my sake ... i been researching some hardware and its absolutely insane man .. they have water colling now so you dont hear the fan ..
[20:46] <usr13> Can one install mplayer on Ubuntu9.04-PS3 ?
[20:46] <sebsebseb> vegombrei: normalley with many  tabs open and  Flash.   well  Firefox 3.5  is out now, but  as usual  Ubuntudevelopers/Canonical  aren't dealing  with  later major  final versions of software properly,  hence why you can't  install the proper final just yet  from an offical Ubuntu repo
[20:47] <sebsebseb> !ff35  >  vegombrei
[20:47] <usr13> !PS3
[20:47] <sebsebseb> vegombrei:  you probably got an actsaul hardware issue of some sort though, so yeah ##hardware
[20:47] <vegombrei> ubottu: how? im on irssi
[20:47] <indus> i got the new ff 3.5 in jaunty
[20:47] <indus> from the repos
[20:47] <gilles> ubottu, I love you!
[20:48] <indus> upgrade folks
[20:48] <sebsebseb> indus: ok  that's nice
[20:48] <ubu_> anyone? does someone have a canon MP510? I ve spent the whole day trying to make it work with the 2nd paper slot....the upper one eat the paper so I need to make the other paper slot work
[20:48] <sebsebseb> !love >  gilles
[20:48] <indus> even though it still says shiretoko in menu :!
[20:48] <gilles> indus: I DL'd my 9.04 yesterday, and the FF seems to be just fine.
[20:48] <sebsebseb> indus: yes it's not the final,  it's well the bot link explains
[20:48] <indus> gilles: its firefox 3.5
[20:48] <gilles> sebsebseb: Lolz!
[20:49] <sebsebseb> gilles: indeed :)
[20:49] <gilles> indus: Haven't been reading along, but what's wrong with it?
[20:49] <indus> sebsebseb: bot is old now. just got the updates an hour ago
[20:49] <sebsebseb> !ff35
[20:49] <indus> ff 3.5 twice as fast as 3
[20:49] <sebsebseb> indus: good, but is it faster than Opera?
[20:49] <indus> enjoy
[20:49] <indus> sebsebseb: not yet but probably with 3.6 or 4
[20:49] <SNAX> where does ubuntu store the drivers it already has
[20:49] <gilles> indus: Is opera that fast? Never really tried it
[20:50] <indus> gilles: yes it is great but i dont like to deviate too much from ubuntu stuff
[20:50] <sebsebseb> gilles: Opera is meant to be  the most fastest browser,  also it  does a great job at following web standards,  just like  Firefox, and  Chomre, and so on,   pretty much everything except that  Internet Explorer disaster
[20:50] <sebsebseb> gilles: that was Chrome above
[20:51] <gilles> indus: Yeah sorry for going offtopic
[20:51] <queso> I am having trouble getting my wireless working.  I've started a thread to get some help, but no one has responded: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203540  If you have any time, I'd appreciate your help. Thanks ;)
[20:52] <scottj> how do i go about fixing (once and for all) slow web-ness? all web apps are unbearably slow
[20:53] <gilles> scottj: Are you sure it's not your internet, might be someone downloading from your network and eating all the bandwith
[20:53] <indus> !ff3.5
[20:53] <indus> ubottu: ff 3.5 is ready !
[20:53] <indus> :)
[20:53] <GiJ> Haha
[20:54] <humbolt> seems my ATOM has no frequency scaling
[20:54] <GiJ> He's just not *that* intelligent ^^
[20:54] <NfuidS> I was wondering in which runlevel I should put the sphinx search engine script? 2 or 3?
[20:54] <sebsebseb> indus: Fedora 11  came with  Firefox  Beta 4,  and  must have  got the final way before  Ubuntu  as well :D
[20:54] <humbolt> in jaunty
[20:54] <scottj> GiJ yes i'm sure its not my isp, i called them all is well, my modem confirms it as well
[20:54] <NfuidS> I see that postfix is using rc3.d and I thought it would have been in rc2.d
[20:54] <sebsebseb> indus: Firefox 3.5  Beta 4 that was
[20:54] <d4rkfe4r> Quick ?.  Where does ubuntu store all the driver info when you install them?
[20:54] <indus> sebsebseb: ya maybe,
[20:54] <bzrk> scottj: use different name servers
[20:54] <indus> sebsebseb: same in ubuntu ff b4
[20:54] <scottj> bzrk like what?
[20:55] <bzrk> local bind
[20:55] <indus> sebsebseb: i was happy to see when i open browser after update it said ;you have been upgraded to 3.5
[20:55] <indus> what i dont get is, why not remove ff 3 and make 3.5 default
[20:55] <mdwright> Does anyone have any experience with Ubuntu and Kickstart?
[20:55] <bzrk> scottj: apt-get install bind9
[20:55] <GiJ> indus: Meh! Mine is 3.0.11 :(
[20:56] <alfacat> Hi. I want to buy a nvidia board to use with jaunty. What's the best supported recent graphics board?
[20:56] <bzrk> /etc/resolv.conf: nameserver 127.0.0.1
[20:56] <scottj> bzrk what is that?
[20:56] <sebsebseb> indus: ,because most of the add ons won't work on  Firefox 3.5 yet
[20:56] <indus> GiJ: install it from synaptic, its next to ff 3.0
[20:56] <bzrk> a nameserver
[20:56] <indus> sebsebseb: hmm yes agreed
[20:56] <DarkKrai> alfacat, I use and nvidia geforce 7600 gt oc
[20:56] <GiJ> indus I prefer 'lynx' for browsing them internets!
[20:56] <DarkKrai> it works fine
[20:56] <indus> sebsebseb: but the community is already working fast on it
[20:56] <pting> is there a work around on jaunty amd64 where when you upload a file through flash on ff, the whole UI updating blocks until the file is done uploading?
[20:57] <indus> sebsebseb: it still has the old ff logo from dapper though
[20:57] <indus> blue globe
[20:57] <sebsebseb> indus: yeah that's for development version
[20:57] <alfacat> DarkKrai: is it good? can you do 3D?
[20:57] <DarkKrai> yes
[20:57] <scottj> bzrk, your gonna have to dumb it up some, i ain't got a degree in network science
[20:58] <DarkKrai> its not expensive either
[20:58] <indus> sebsebseb: i guess they will update logo too soon cos in about ff it says 3.5
[20:58] <bzrk> scottj: it converts names of webpages to ip adresses
[20:58] <GiJ> How do I hide my IP when using Kongregate to get on IR?C
[20:58] <alfacat> great! :-)
[20:58] <fraser> How do you make it so that your comp never sleeps?
[20:58] <sebsebseb> indus: I don't think the logo will get updated that soon
[20:58] <etzerd> hello all
[20:58] <sebsebseb> indus: if  at all
[20:58] <fraser> I have it set to 'never' but all the connections I have running die after a few hours
[20:58] <cabrey> fraser, System > Preferences > Power Management
[20:58] <etzerd> can anyone tell me what is the name of the last ubuntu version
[20:58] <GiJ> Jaunty something
[20:58] <cabrey> etzerd, Jaunty Jackalope
[20:58] <ferret_> GiJ: kongregate is a website, not an irc client
[20:58] <DarkKrai> ^
[20:59] <DarkKrai> lol
[20:59] <indus> bye all enjoy
[20:59] <etzerd> thanks
[20:59] <stroyan> rom1v: You nvidia-common configure problem looks more like a duplicate of  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-common/+bug/303795
[20:59] <GiJ> ferret MEEEH! I meant Konversation +.+
[20:59] <bzrk> scottj: just run sudo apt-get install bind9 and edit /etc/resolv.conf so there is only a line "nameserver 127.0.0.1" in it
[20:59] <GiJ> ferret, Too much time spent on Kongregate for me ,)
[20:59] <makaraki> Hello everyone greetings from spain I have a problem with my wireless detection using ifconfig it does not appear but if I use iwconfig instead it shows that it exists
[20:59] <etzerd> because everytime I go to Medibuntu it give me an error.
[20:59] <etzerd> one more ?
[20:59] <scottj> bzrk isn't my modem supposed to handle that sorta thing? and if sooooo many ppl are having probs with web apps in ubuntu, why can't ubuntu just fix it? (2nd question is rhetorical)
[20:59] <bzrk> scottj: then check if it has improves
[20:59] <ferret_> GiJ: You're telling me; I have it on highlight
[21:00] <etzerd> where can I download the codecs so I can Play DVD
[21:00] <bzrk> scottj: your modem will be using your isps nameservers and if they suck there is not a thing ubuntu can do
[21:00] <keith-> does grub install to the mbr with a default install?
[21:00] <GiJ> etzerd: Totem Mediaplayer should update them themselves
[21:00] <scottj> bzrk so what your saying is, is that my problem is related to dns?
[21:00] <bzrk> scottj: i say it might be
[21:01] <bzrk> scottj: in fact it is the likeliest cause
[21:01] <rom1v> moreover I have no nvidia
[21:01] <makaraki> keith-: Theres always a boot loader in every mbr
[21:01] <GiJ> Anyone know how I can hide my IP with Konversation?
[21:01] <scottj> bzrk if in the event that it does not improve my problem, autoremove will uninstall it and make it go back to normal?
[21:01] <danbhfive> bzrk: scottj: installing resolvconf might work better than editing resolv.conf
[21:01] <Tenkawa> !ff3.5
[21:02] <bzrk> scottj: if it does not help run sudo apt-get --purge remove bind9
[21:02] <cabrey> GiJ, request a cloak in #freenode
[21:02] <GiJ> Thanks Cabrey
[21:02] <fanum> so will it replace the 3.0 release once its final (instead of coexisting)
[21:02] <scottj> ok bzrk i'll give it a shot
[21:03] <cabrey> fanum, no, it coexists with 3.0.11
[21:03] <makaraki> Hello people can anyone give me some help with network interface handling
[21:03] <cabrey> fanum, it will not replace the firefox package
[21:03] <Hilikus> whats the recommended firewall for ubuntu *SERVER* ?
[21:03] <Ruby> Hey I'm trying to install ubuntu on my second HDD, I set the CD drives boot priority in the  BIOS to first
[21:03] <Ruby> and it still just boots onto the second HDD
[21:03] <cabrey> Hilikus, IP Tables
[21:04] <JesusCake[BoT]> Hi I was wondering if there was a way to take my ubuntu partition off of the boot sequence and just make a virtual machine with it within windows
[21:04] <Ruby> Any idea as to what to do
[21:04] <Tenkawa> JesusCake[BoT]: use a p2v converter
[21:04] <cabrey> JesusCake[BoT], dd your partition to a img and then convert that from raw -> virtualbox format
[21:04] <Tenkawa> cabrey: heh or that way too
[21:04] <Tenkawa> :)
[21:05] <makaraki> Hi again I have Ethernet card working ok and also a wireless card but the last one the wirless card does not appear when I type the ifconfig command
[21:05] <scottj> bzrk bind9 installed, plz walk me thru next step
[21:05] <Tenkawa> qemu-img does wonders
[21:05] <cabrey> makaraki, try ifconfig -a
[21:05] <cabrey> makaraki, or iwconfig
[21:05] <Ruby> Guys?
[21:05] <Tenkawa> Ruby: that sounds like a bios issue to me
[21:06] <makaraki> cabrey: iwconfig shows me the interface in monitor mode
[21:06] <Tenkawa> if its booting from the wrong drive
[21:06] <erUSUL> Hilikus: ufw ? shorewall ? firehol ?
[21:06] <Ruby> Yeah it also thinks it has a floppy drive so yeah
[21:06] <Tenkawa> erUSUL: I prefer iptables cli
[21:06] <bzrk> scottj: backup /etc/resolv.conf to /etc/resolv.conf.bnup; use your favorite editor to remove all contrent from /etc/resolv.conf and insert the line nameserver 127.0.0.1
[21:06] <Hilikus> erUSUL: i'm looking into ufw, which one do you like better?
[21:06] <cabrey> makaraki, it appears, yes?
[21:06] <Ruby> Let me think
[21:06] <fanum> Ruby: double check the bios settings, and see if there is a bios update fgor your motherboard
[21:06] <cabrey> Hilikus, ufw is an interface to iptables
[21:06] <makaraki> cabrey: yes it appears using the iwconfig
[21:06] <Tenkawa> Ruby: bios' are kinda funny about floppies (and their (non)existence)
[21:06] <scottj> bzrk sorry for being a noob but i don't know how to do that
[21:06] <cabrey> Hilikus, sort of a manager, if you will
[21:07] <cabrey> makaraki, wasn't that your question?
[21:07] <bzrk> scottj: then first go find an editor you like
[21:07] <Hilikus> cabrey: thats what i read, thanks
[21:07] <scottj> bzrk like gedit
[21:07] <bzrk> yes
[21:07] <bzrk> scottj: you need to edit the file as root
[21:07] <bzrk> scottj: so use sudo
[21:08] <makaraki> cabrey: well I remember that long time ago I was trying to use the airpack and such stuff and I think I did a big mess with all settings and dirvers
[21:08] <stroyan> rom1v: If you have no nvidia device on the system then "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-common" is definitely a good first step to correcting the problem.  If  apt-get doesn't want to do that you could use "sudo dpkg --purge nvidia-common".
[21:08] <scottj> bzrk sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf? that brings up the conf file, but how to back it up?
[21:08] <makaraki> cabrey: so I want to know the best way to configure my wireless card again
[21:08] <erUSUL> Hilikus: i use firehol but my comp is a desktop...
[21:08] <rom1v> It resolved the problem :
[21:08] <rom1v> :)
[21:08] <Pickenzak> stroyan: Inhale a virus, same thing.
[21:08] <rom1v> I reinstalled it and it works
[21:08] <rom1v> (even if useless)
[21:08] <bzrk> scottj: the file gets replaced when you restart so you dont really need to back it up
[21:09] <Ruby> Okay
[21:09] <cabrey> makaraki, network manager
[21:09] <rom1v> thank you very much
[21:09] <Ruby> The BIOS update is a .ROM file
[21:09] <rom1v> stroyan
[21:09] <Ruby> I take it I burn it to a disk and then put it in my CD drive and reboot?
[21:09] <default> k hello
[21:09] <makaraki> cabrey: Actually I tried using the Knetworkmanager
[21:09] <Tenkawa> Ruby: not necessarilpy
[21:09] <CrAzYoNi> In Ubuntu, I noticed that Mailx must be installed for be in use - it not coming by default with the installion.
[21:09] <Husaini> hi
[21:09] <CrAzYoNi> Though what about Mail?
[21:09] <makaraki> cabrey: so I will try to reinstall it
[21:09] <Tenkawa> er necessaarily
[21:09] <fanum> Ruby: what motherborad is it?
[21:10] <nellmathew> anyone here have a broadcom (4306 rev 3) and use ndiswrapper instead of b43-fwcutter? b43 keeps disconnecting every so often, i want to know if this problem can be fixed without ndiswrapper before going through all the trouble..
[21:10] <CrAzYoNi> Because I already installed Mailx I don't know what about Mail...
[21:10] <Ruby> ASUS m4A79 deluxe
[21:10] <Tenkawa> you should read the bios update readme/instructs
[21:10] <CrAzYoNi> *Mail (CLI command)
[21:10] <Tenkawa> this is the first machine I'
[21:10] <Tenkawa> err
[21:10] <Tenkawa> I
[21:10] <scottj> bzrk what is the command to back up the /etc/resolve.conf?
[21:11] <Tenkawa> ve run into that the wireless had a module in the stock install but the wired didnt... ironic
[21:11] <rom1v> sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf{,.bak}
[21:11] <bzrk> scottj: what rom1v said
[21:11] <scottj> so just copy/paste that?
[21:11] <tyler_d_> I would like to list all files from within directories and sub-directories?
[21:11] <makaraki> cabrey: thanks for your support I will try to find an acces point to check if the network manager detects the essid if it is public configured
[21:11] <GiJ> Amagawd!
[21:11] <fanum> ruby: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1198062
[21:11] <Ruby> Yeah I'm going to boot onto windows for a bit
[21:11] <bzrk> scottj: you shouldnt copy paste as root
[21:11] <GiJ> Ubuntu lacks a mail and lynx command
[21:12] <fanum> oh if you have windows
[21:12] <bzrk> scottj: type read rerread press enter
[21:12] <Tenkawa> GiJ: install them
[21:12] <fanum> see if you can find an executible for your bios update
[21:12] <Flare183> GiJ: Actually it has a mail and lynx command
[21:12] <GiJ> Tenkawa: I know, I'm just amazed they aren't here standard
[21:12] <Flare183> GiJ: You have to install them first tho
[21:12] <Tenkawa> hhehe
[21:12] <Tenkawa> I was j/k
[21:12] <makaraki> bye people see you latter
[21:12] <Tenkawa> yeah
[21:12] <Tenkawa> mail I can understand
[21:12] <Tenkawa> lynx... maybe
[21:13] <umut> testing
[21:13] <GiJ> Tenkawa: Lynx is the best!
[21:13] <Tenkawa> true
[21:13] <Tenkawa> :)
[21:13] <lopeze> Is it possible to install Windows Vista under VirtualBox with just an upgrade disc?
[21:13] <GiJ> What mail package should I install? mailutils or heriloom-mailx
[21:14] <Tenkawa> lopeze: ummm... wrong channel
[21:14] <fanum> lopeze: no
[21:15] <MaT-dg1> still no way to upgrade to firefox3.5? (really an upgrade, not the shiretoko thingie)
[21:15] <newbee> hello
[21:15] <newbee> test
[21:15] <Tenkawa> heh not use to having actual battery life anymore
[21:15] <donald> test
[21:15] <Tenkawa> this is nice
[21:15] <donald> anyone know anything about setting up dual monitors
[21:16] <GiJ> Tenkawa: Desktops rarely have a batery, Tenkawa ,)
[21:16] <Tenkawa> GiJ: I only run notebooks or server hardware
[21:16] <Tenkawa> havent had a
[21:16] <Tenkawa> er "desktop" in years
[21:16] <umut> when do we have ff 3.5?
[21:17] <Tenkawa> mind you my current 2 servers are just overmodified desktops
[21:17] <Tenkawa> heheh
[21:17] <Guest94072> I need help setting up dual monitors
[21:17] <a> hey,
[21:17] <nellmathew> umut , MaT-dg1 : give it a few more days, they did this with 3.0 too, just making sure everything's right
[21:17] <cjae> ok since I am getting frustrated with gui apps, anyone know a simple syntax command to get rid (with prompt preferably) of duplicate mp3's it does not need to re cruse, I have use fslint and fdupes and still see the many many duplicates
[21:17] <GiJ> Tenkawa: I just vacuum cleaned the desktop that was eating dust next to me, it got too nasty... Trying to find a really lightweight linux distro to run some stuff on it, tests and stuffles^^ Has to be fun
[21:17] <danbhfive> Guest94072: have you tried xrandr?
[21:17] <Tenkawa> GiJ: ahh
[21:17] <a> can i as a none-linux related question. I want to go to germany in a week, but dont know where to go, and what to do. Anyone have any ideas?
[21:18] <bzrk> Guest94072: nvidia card?
[21:18] <GiJ> Tenkawa: Got any sugestions? has to be graphical but really lw :)
[21:18] <Tenkawa> GiJ: hmm...
[21:18] <umut> a: which city in Germany?
[21:18] <Tenkawa> you can make debian pretty small with xfce
[21:18] <lwells> When do you think firefox will be available in the repo and not as beta?
[21:19] <Guest91120> my screen closed on me.......what was the program name for dual monitors?
[21:19] <a> umut berlin, hamburg perhaps
[21:19] <Tenkawa> lwells: we all wonder
[21:19] <a> something in the north
[21:19] <danbhfive> !xrandr | Guest91120
[21:19] <GiJ> Tenkawa: O Really? People told me Arch Linux was really lw, Gentoo too, but too hard to setup
[21:19] <a> umut since im droping leaving from sweden
[21:19] <Tenkawa> they are ok too...
[21:19] <ReligionsBlow> Ah, thats better
[21:19] <umut> In Berlin go see the wall, in hamburg eat hamburger :)
[21:19] <lwells> Tenkawa, they are currently testing it?
[21:19] <Tenkawa> all get to be a bit more work
[21:19] <bzrk> a: if hamburg visit the reeperbahn
[21:19] <Guest91120> @danbhfive - I had it setup and had to reinstall
[21:20] <Tenkawa> lwells: I hope so but I do not know
[21:20] <lwells> ok
[21:20] <a> bzrk what is taht?
[21:20] <Guest91120> now my screen says "unknown"
[21:20] <bzrk> a: its a famous red light district street
[21:20] <acke> bzrk: my pregnant gf will not like that very much,
[21:20] <acke> ..
[21:20] <olof_> I have started to investigate migrating software-properties-gtk to use policykit instead of sudo, but I need some help with policy-kit-related stuff. Where do I get assistance? Should I talk to someone involved in  ubuntu, policykit or software-properties-gtk?
[21:21] <bzrk> acke: its not as bad as it sounds ^^
[21:21] <acke> would you know of any site that could help me out with what events are planned in germany in july?
[21:21] <acke> in english
[21:21] <bzrk> acke: basically id say that and the harbour
[21:21] <GiJ> acke: Try google.
[21:22] <umut> acke: only event you will get in Germany in July is rain :)
[21:23] <hqrsie> i hear Germany is a total sausage festival
[21:23] <Hilikus> any comments on ufw vs shorewall anyone?
[21:24] <Tenkawa> Hilikus: iptables cli :)
[21:24] <Tenkawa> Hilikus: ;)
[21:24] <Tenkawa> er :)
[21:24] <nellmathew> anyone know if ndiswrapper fixes the random disconnection issues with broadcom 4306s (b43)?
[21:24] <scottj> bzrk i noticed a slight improvement after changing resolv.conf to read only nameserver 127.0.0.1 but you mentioned that that change will be erased after a reboot?
[21:25] <Tenkawa> does ubuntu keep a list of hardware pci ids to module mapping on the website?
[21:25] <Tenkawa> or where should I go to investigate that
[21:25] <Promille> Hey. What program can i use for monitoring my CPU temp ?
[21:25] <Tenkawa> Promille: lm-sensors backend
[21:25] <bzrk> scottj: with installing bind it should stay locally, the file gets replaced it if is not there on boot, it might be overwritten by your dhcp client updating your ip from your router
[21:25] <Tenkawa> and any gnome/kde frontend
[21:26] <Promille> Tenkawa: thanks, ive tried that, but it says there is no sensors, though i am pretty sure it is
[21:26] <bzrk> scottj: i dont know you need to check that for yourself
[21:26] <Phinsfan> Has anybody had any luck installing lexmark printer X2600?
[21:26] <Tenkawa> Promille: odd
[21:26] <Promille> Tenkawa: do i have to restart to make it work ?
[21:26] <Tenkawa> bzrk: he might need some nsswitch tweaks too
[21:27] <scottj> bzrk am i to do anything with bind9 or just let it do its thing after installing?
[21:27] <bzrk> Tenkawa: you want to walk him though them? :P
[21:27] <Tenkawa> bzrk: heheh no
[21:27] <bzrk> scottj: you dont need to change anything in bind
[21:27] <Tenkawa> I'd have to look them up again
[21:27] <uhuru2> hi
[21:27] <Guest91120> Why is my screen showing up as UNKNOWN and the external screen (attached to my laptop) is not showing up?
[21:27] <Tenkawa> scottj: what is your goal you are trying to accomplish?
[21:28] <Guest91120> dual screen
[21:28] <Phinsfan> Has anybody had any luck installing lexmark printer X2600?
[21:28] <bzrk> scottj: wait and see what ip is in the resolv.conf after reboot or after a few hours
[21:28] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: even after detect screens?
[21:28] <uhuru2> problem in pidgin ..;gtalk failed to connect
[21:28] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - yeah
[21:28] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: odd
[21:28] <bzrk> scottj: if it changes again you need to do something, if not, youre good to go
[21:28] <scottj> tenkawa; improve web speeds, all my web apps like browsers and torrent clients are uber slow
[21:28] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - seriously!
[21:28] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: hmm... you try the function switch key or make sure which one is default in bios?
[21:29] <scottj> bzrk thanks so much for the help
[21:29] <uhuru2>  8-)
[21:29] <Tenkawa> scottj: umm.. bind locally shouldnt be needed for that
[21:29] <bzrk> scottj: np yw
[21:29] <scottj> tenkawa i'm open to suggestions
[21:29] <uhuru2> your help pls for pidgin
[21:29] <c-man> hey guys, i'm running ubuntu 9.04 and i downloaded some files, and it is a .rar folder. for some reason it won't open, someone help?
[21:29] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - I tried fn...but not the bios....
[21:29] <Guest91120> c-man - you need an un-rar
[21:30] <Tenkawa> you got something else probably causing a problem like a bad name service delay or ipv6 lookups or avahi, appletalk, etc lookups delaying
[21:30] <Guest91120> @ Tankawa - lol....in english?
[21:30] <scottj> tenkawa thatz all greek to me
[21:30] <c-man> where do i get an un-rar program?
[21:30] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: the last was for scottj
[21:30] <thiebaude> uhuru2: whats wrong with your pidgin?
[21:30] <schermann> d
[21:30] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all.
[21:30] <Tenkawa> Guest91120: yuou might cxhecking the bios to see if there even is a toggle
[21:30] <Guest91120> ahhh
[21:30] <magnetron> hi, how do i find out which package contains a specific file (not yet installed)
[21:30] <_UsUrPeR_> I'm looking for some help with a touchscreen implementation
[21:31] <uhuru2> gtalk failed to connect
[21:31] <magnetron> c-man: use synaptic and add the "unrar" package
[21:31] <Tenkawa> magnetron: apt-file
[21:31] <magnetron> Tenkawa: ty
[21:31] <Guest91120> @ Tenkawa - how is that done?
[21:31] <Tenkawa> np
[21:31] <c-man> alright, mucho gracias :D
[21:31] <_UsUrPeR_> for some reason, I am not able to get it working properly with 9.04. Though I can cat the output (it's a serial device) from /dev/ttyS0.
[21:31] <_UsUrPeR_> which shows it's working
[21:31] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: not working at all or flaky?
[21:32] <_UsUrPeR_> Tenkawa: I have not gotten it to work in Jaunty yet
[21:32] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: ouch
[21:32] <Tenkawa> serial.. ouchiw
[21:32] <Guest91120> brb
[21:32] <Tenkawa> er ouchie
[21:32] <_UsUrPeR_> like I said: I can cat the output from /dev/ttyS0 (I can see output when I touch the screen), but I cannot get it to control the mouse
[21:33] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: probably needs a driver/module to interact
[21:33] <uhuru2> no one not able to solve my problem
[21:33] <Tenkawa> did it work before?
[21:33] <uhuru2> yes
[21:33] <Tenkawa> uhuru2: not really giving us any info to work from
[21:34] <Tenkawa> is there a verbose error or debug trace?
[21:34] <Turl> hello
[21:34] <thiebaude> uhuru2: do you get any errors?
[21:34] <uhuru2> i cannot open pidgin , it flashes out
[21:34] <_UsUrPeR_> Tenkawa: the driver I am using is apt-getable. the package is xserver-xorg-input-elographics
[21:35] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: ahhh
[21:35] <Turl> I'm trying to set up a ipv6 tunnel, but ufw makes it get 100% packet loss
[21:35] <Turl> any idea on how to solve it? disabling ufw makes it work
[21:35] <sage_> what is the channel for crossover games
[21:35] <sage_> support
[21:35] <_UsUrPeR_> I am referencing this with an xorg.conf (it has some calibration that must be done), but it's just not picking up the input
[21:35] <Tenkawa> _UsUrPeR_: very odd
[21:35] <_UsUrPeR_> indeed
[21:36]  * _UsUrPeR_ puts on his manacle
[21:36] <_UsUrPeR_> flpxj s/manacle/monocle
[21:36] <schermann> ss
[21:36] <xiong> under what circumstances should i not accept an automatic update?
[21:36] <uhuru2> you may mail me on nasrullah1983@sabily.org please
[21:37] <uhuru2> thank you
[21:37] <uhuru2> good night
[21:37] <Nameless_au> xiong: when it conflicts with other repositories
[21:37] <tyler_d_> how do I create an md5 hash for a file.... from terminal
[21:37] <tyler_d_> ?
[21:37] <Ktron> tyler_d_, md5sum <file>
[21:37] <Tenkawa> uggh
[21:37] <tyler_d_> Ktron: ty
[21:37] <thiebaude> xiong: if its me i accept all updates
[21:38] <Tenkawa> found the wired driver....
[21:38] <ubuntu__> Oh god
[21:38] <Tenkawa> this might be
[21:38] <Maddog> hi
[21:38] <Tenkawa> "interesting"
[21:38] <Maddog> i got a quesiton about ubuntu
[21:38] <hipitihop> I have a machine which goes to dark screen after a given user logs in but can't see errors. I can ssh in. What log do I need to see what is wrong ?
[21:38] <Maddog> I have no sound i have the crappy PPC version but thats all i have for my machine is there a way to scan and fix your sound?
[21:39] <Ktron> hipitihop, dark for every user, or one user?
[21:39] <ubuntu__> I wanted to remove all the data in /tmp due to lack of space. So I do sudo rm * -r, and it starts deleting all the files
[21:39] <ubuntu__> Then I realise I was in /
[21:39] <Tenkawa> eeeek
[21:39] <Turl> any ufw guru in here?
[21:39] <chazco> Hi... i have a netbook running at 1024x600... is it possible to run VNC at a higher resolution on a host computer (e.g. a desktop at 1440x900)...
[21:39] <Tenkawa> chazco: should be able to
[21:39] <Flare183> ubuntu__: I think Ubuntu itself should have stopped you
[21:40] <xiong> Nameless_au, how would i know that i had a conflict with 'other repositiories' -- i don't even have a clear idea of 'repository'
[21:40] <ubuntu__> Flare183: No I use Debian, I'm just on Ubuntu live CD ATM
[21:40] <hipitihop> Ktron: that's a little involved but I think in short, just the one
[21:40] <Flare183> ubuntu__: Ahh ok
[21:40] <chazco> Tenkawa - Any idea how? Most of the VNC servers only seem to provide the clients resolution...
[21:41] <Tenkawa> chazco: hmm.. I thought there was a toggle for it but its been a while
[21:41] <ditty_kong> @ chazco: Maybe if your grapghics card is configured to be able to you might
[21:41] <chazco> ditty_kong - Afaik the maximum the netbook GPU can offer is 1024x600
[21:41] <Ktron> hipitihop, if its just the one, I'd look in that users home directory (verify they have one) for files like .xinitrc and see if they have something bizarre configured
[21:42] <chazco> Tenkawa - You can choose "Scale" on the client but that just stretches it, doesnt actually run at the chosen resolution
[21:42] <Tenkawa> ahh
[21:42] <Tenkawa> true
[21:42] <Tenkawa> thats what I was thinking about
[21:42] <owner_> hello
[21:42] <owner_> anyone can help me?
[21:43] <MrCraig> hi all - I reeeally need some help here.  A few weeks ago I made the mistake of buying a usb-> parallel printer cable as my laptop doesn't have an lpt port - no matter what I tried I couldn't get the printer to work (HP Laserjet4),  but I'm suffering without it.  If there is anyone with good knowledge of cups / usb please IM me, any help you can give is appreciated.
[21:43] <Tenkawa> owner_: gotta tell us what the problem is first
[21:43] <humbolt> is there a vdpau enabled mplayer repository available already?
[21:43] <owner_> how to install b43 in ubuntu kernel 2.6.28-13 ?
[21:43] <Tenkawa> !b43
[21:43] <owner_> yeah?
[21:43] <owner_> how?
[21:44] <owner_> hhmm..
[21:44] <owner_> how?
[21:44] <Tenkawa> owner_: the broadcomm driver?
[21:44] <owner_> yes
[21:44] <owner_> b43
[21:44] <ditty_kong> I thought broadcom works out of the box in Ubuntu, it does fo rme
[21:44] <Tenkawa> cant help myself.. no broadcom here
[21:44] <Tenkawa> ditty_kong: certain nics
[21:44] <owner_> hhmm...
[21:44] <owner_> how?
[21:44] <Tenkawa> just like atheros is missing a few too
[21:44] <ditty_kong> I had to compile the kernal module myself when I switched to Debian I might be able to help
[21:44] <jiffe> anyone used gfs before?  I'm having trouble creating/mounting a partition, I run 'mkfs.gfs -J 32 -j 4 -p lock_dlm -t web:log1 /dev/sdb1' which runs fine, but then 'gfs_tool getsb /dev/sdb1' claims it is not a gfs partition
[21:45] <jiffe> not entirely sure where I am going wrong
[21:45] <owner_> anyone can help me?
[21:45] <owner_> hhmm..
[21:45] <owner_> compile?
[21:45] <ditty_kong> what is the boradcom driver specifically. run in terminal lspci and post it here
[21:45] <Tenkawa> jiffe: you sure it put it "as" /dev/sdb1?
[21:45] <Tenkawa> some of those tools can be odd
[21:46] <ditty_kong> @owner_  in termanl <lspci> and find the broadcom u r using and tell me what it is
[21:46] <cjae> ok so I need to compare files not by md5sum eg. mp3's how can I do that?
[21:46] <jiffe> it doesn't say otherwise
[21:46] <GiJ> What was the hotkey to go to kernel again in ubuntu? :/ ANd the one to switch back
[21:46] <jiffe> I fdisked /dev/sdb, giving it the full space, which created /dev/sdb1
[21:46] <sloth-118> hey all does any 1 no how to get on backtracks irc channel
[21:47] <justinHONK> Anyone know any good linux distros under 500 MB?
[21:47] <justinHONK> with wireless support?
[21:47] <ditty_kong> @ justinHONK: Puppy Linux, Slackware....
[21:47] <owner_> my device is bcm4312 rev 2
[21:47] <owner_> ditty_kong: my device is bcm4312 rev 2
[21:47] <GiJ> justinHONK: ArchLinux is pretty small too
[21:47] <Pirate_Hunter> justinHONK, ubuntu! there are many depends on how you set it up
[21:47] <jiffe> I tried just /dev/sdb, does the same
[21:47] <hipitihop> Ktron: looking into it.
[21:48] <ditty_kong> ok gimmie a sec to find ur driver
[21:48] <justinHONK> I just need something I can fit on a 512 mb usb drive with wireless support for my atheros card
[21:48] <owner_> hohhH
[21:49] <owner_> sorry
[21:49] <snarkster> howdy, can someone direct me to howto get my mic to work.. teamspeak doesnt work so good with a mic
[21:49] <henryC> I've spent many hours now trying to get php 5.3 working with openssl transport on ubuntu jaunty.  Anybody else solved this problem?  Unable to find the socket transport "ssl" - did you forget to enable it when you configured PHP?
[21:50] <ditty_kong> ok...
[21:50] <Pirate_Hunter> justinHONK, oh that is different still check dsl and puppy linux dont know about the whole wireless feature (hmmm i think puppy might be the way not certain havent used it in a while)
[21:50] <ditty_kong> owner_ what Ubuntu are u running? 64 or 32 bit?
[21:50] <owner_> 32
[21:50] <owner_> 32 bit
[21:50] <ditty_kong> http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[21:50] <ditty_kong> this site has ur driver
[21:51] <owner_> but i dont want sta driver
[21:51] <ditty_kong> you will have to compile it yourself though
[21:51] <owner_> i want b43
[21:51] <owner_> how?
[21:52] <cjae> anyone?
[21:52] <humbolt> when I have a 64bit capable CPU, would my system be faster when I go for the amd64 release?
[21:53] <jjg76> Hello, sorry for interrupting
[21:53] <cabrey> humbolt, theoretically
[21:53] <ditty_kong> @ owner_ r u certain the card is compatable with b43?
[21:53] <cabrey> jjg76, you aren't interrupting anything :)
[21:53] <Tenkawa> but you could lose some compatibility with certain things
[21:53] <jjg76> I've got a problem with my webbrowser
[21:53] <GiJ> jjg76: Shoot:)
[21:53] <owner_> yes
[21:53] <jjg76> That's nice to hear
[21:54] <cabrey> jjg76, let me guess... flash?
[21:54] <jjg76> Nope
[21:54] <cabrey> oh wow, thats a first :P
[21:54] <cjae> someone told me to use sed and awk for my nmp3 collection but I am still trying to grasp how to use them
[21:54] <humbolt> cabrey: where does the uncertainty come from?
[21:54] <cjae> mp3*
[21:54] <Guest26991> hi guys^
[21:54] <humbolt> cabrey: and how about 64bit flash? is that available now?
[21:54] <GiJ> Guest26991: HeyHey
[21:54] <Tenkawa> cjae: apt-cache search fdupes
[21:55] <Tenkawa> see if that seems useable
[21:55] <GiJ> jjg76: What's wrong with your browser, jjg76
[21:55] <Vero2_> 30845 Join #supremos, official Ubuntu support channel.  We also invite you to join  http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/ and/or
[21:55] <jjg76> I've changed my view>style to no style and can't get it back to default style
[21:55] <GiJ> jjg76: What browser are you using?
[21:55] <jjg76> The default firefox in 9.04
[21:55] <cjae> Tenkawa, used that it only does comparison by md5sum and is leaving huge amounts of duplicates
[21:55] <Vero2_> 14847 Join #supremos, official Ubuntu support channel.  We also invite you to join  http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/ and/or
[21:55] <GiJ> jjg76: I see two options, no style and basic-style
[21:56] <Tenkawa> cjae: bummer... sorry.. tried
[21:56] <GiJ> jjg76: Can you swap back to basic-style?
[21:56] <Vero2_> 28469 Join #supremos, official Ubuntu support channel.  We also invite you to join  http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/ and/or
[21:56] <jjg76> No, that' the problem
[21:56] <Guest99924> hey is filezilla my best choice for ftp client for linux...what is the most popular?
[21:56] <Phinsfan> Has anyone sucessfully installed lexmark X2600 printer?
[21:57] <jjg76> I've searched every forem but no one seem to have this problem
[21:57] <GiJ> jjg76: Why not? Is the option missing or is your menu missing or something?
[21:57] <cjae> Tenkawa, unless I am using it wrong :/
[21:57] <_PiLoT_> hi there ive got an issue when installing buntu onto an old laptop it says * setting kernal variables (/etc/sysct1.d/10-console-security.conf)... segmentation fault
[21:57] <_PiLoT_> any ideas?
[21:57] <cabrey> humbolt, sorry about that, it's what happens when running an alpha OS
[21:57] <Tenkawa> cjae: nah.. its probably not doing enough bitlevel checking
[21:57] <jjg76> No it's just not responding
[21:57] <cabrey> !flash64 | humbolt
[21:57] <rinsmaster> jjg76, why not just reinstall firefox?
[21:57] <jjg76> I tried that with synaptic
[21:57] <tanath> anyone else start getting a corrupted display recently?
[21:57] <mama22mama> 30054 Join #supremos, official Ubuntu support channel.  We also invite you to join  http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/ and/or  http://mamalibre.eshost.com.ar/?q=node/145
[21:57] <Phinsfan> Can anyone help me?
[21:58] <erUSUL> !ask
[21:58] <GiJ> jjg76: Tried refreshing your page? :)
[21:58] <rinsmaster> jjg76, try mark for *complete* removal
[21:58] <fjebus_> 22302 #Join #supremos, official Ubuntu support channel.  We also invite you to join  http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/ and/or  http://mamalibre.eshost.com.ar/?q=node/145
[21:58] <jebus__> 14550 Join #supremos, official Ubuntu support channel.  We also invite you to join  http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/ and/or  http://mamalibre.eshost.com.ar/?q=node/145
[21:58] <mad1> 31814 #Join #supremos, official Ubuntu support channel.  We also invite you to join  http://srinuxubuntu.homelinux.com/ and/or  http://mamalibre.eshost.com.ar/?q=node/145
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[21:58] <jjg76> Yes al those things
[21:58] <rinsmaster> :/
[21:58] <shiznebit> spam ?
[21:58] <erUSUL> !ops
[21:58] <pp7>  jjg76: try removing (backup first) your ~/.mozilla dir
[21:58] <Guest99924> hey is filezilla my best choice for ftp client for linux...what is the most popular?
[21:58] <cabrey> spam flooding :/
[21:58] <jjg76> I'm running puppy with seamonkey, and seamonkey does respond
[21:58] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, dont know if it is recently but moving from different tty screen to f7 gives me corrupted graphics, still why do you ask
[21:58] <Phinsfan> Has anyone sucessfully installed lexmark X2600 printer?
[21:58] <Tenkawa> Guest99924: I just use "ftp"
[21:59] <Guest99924> tenkawa: is it gui?
[21:59] <Tenkawa> nope
[21:59] <jjg76> I'm a n00b and on a learning curve
[21:59] <Guest99924> lookign for gui though
[21:59] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, my display is corrupt. happened after a recent update
[21:59] <jjg76> ;-p
[21:59] <nanotube> Guest99924: try "gftp", if you're looking for a gui client. if you are into commandline, just plain old ftp is always there, or if you want something a little more fancy, lftp is nice.
[21:59] <budo> hi ubottu. ubottu are you a person?
[21:59] <GiJ> jjg76: Yeah, I fail to find some way to fix it too
[21:59] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, i've ruled out it being compiz, because reloading doesn't fix it, and it's still corrupt with metacity...
[21:59] <badeagle> ubottu: being a person.
[21:59] <SNAX> how do I install drivers :)
[22:00] <_PiLoT_> hi there ive got an issue when installing buntu onto an old laptop it says * setting kernal variables (/etc/sysct1.d/10-console-security.conf)... segmentation fault
[22:00] <jjg76> That odd isn't it
[22:00] <GiJ> ubottu: being sexy.
[22:00] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, you mean dist upgrade or just normal update, have you turned off compiz etc and check xorg log for errors
[22:00] <Tenkawa> ubottu: reality
[22:00] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, it occasionally gets better or worse, but never completely goes away
[22:00] <Tenkawa> :)
[22:00] <GiJ> jjg76: weird part is that it doesn't respond
[22:00] <jjg76> My google is now with no style, and i can't get it back the way it was
[22:00] <GiJ> Yeah, I saw it without style, that's not good ;D
[22:01] <nanotube> Guest99924: see also http://linuxreviews.org/software/ftp-clients/
[22:01] <Tenkawa> you've either got a denied cookie or block on google in some way it sounds like
[22:01] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, normal updating. and as i said, it's still corrupt with straight metacity. no xorg errors
[22:01] <jjg76> No it is defenitly not goog:-(
[22:01] <hipitihop> Ktron: ok have access to the users home drive. where is .xinitrc
[22:01] <jjg76> good
[22:01] <Tenkawa> or a plugin blocking scripts possibly
[22:01] <Ktron> hipitihop, it'd be in their home directory
[22:01] <jjg76> I also haven't got any audio
[22:02] <Ktron> hipitihop, it might not be there
[22:02] <Tenkawa> jjg76: ouch
[22:02] <hipitihop> Ktron: not there.
[22:02] <Guest99924> nanotube: thanks
[22:02] <GiJ> jjg76: Did you have audio before?
[22:02] <Pirate_Hunter> you mean you get like blurry view, cause if that the case it might be your resolution i know weird however i can achieve higher res but that is after i mess with me cable... still what do you mean by corrupt?
[22:02] <jjg76> I've got 2 maudio delta 1010 soundmodules, but none of the 20 outputs give any audio
[22:02] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, seems to have been caused by an update from a few days ago
[22:02] <Ktron> hipitihop, hm, if its only for this one user, than it must be some configuration setting of this user
[22:02] <jjg76> I had audio with 8.10 x64
[22:03] <jjg76> Just right away
[22:03] <Ktron> hipitihop, so its got to be one of the files in there... are you using Gnome?
[22:03] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, resolution hasn't changed...
[22:03] <Tenkawa> bbl
[22:03] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, there are graphical glitches everywhere
[22:03] <hipitihop> Ktron: yes, standard Ubuntu Jaunty
[22:04] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, lots of dotty horizontal lines...
[22:04] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, random crap on screen
[22:04] <hipitihop> Ktron: and I agree it is probably some setting as this user worked fine before.
[22:04] <GiJ> exit
[22:04] <GiJ> woops
[22:04] <GiJ> ,)
[22:04]  * D3f0 is away: Ausente por ahora
[22:04] <angelgirl> hi evry one
[22:04] <Ktron> hipitihop, do they have any weird files/directories in their home dir that start with .x?
[22:05] <Ktron> hipitihop, or .X?
[22:05] <jjg76> Anyone?
[22:05] <nanotube> Guest99924: np :)
[22:06] <hipitihop> Ktron: .xmoto
[22:06] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/84/screenshot1adi.png
[22:06] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, screenshot i just took of my desktop. sometimes it's better, sometimes it's worse. trying to fix it by repainting & such often makes it worse
[22:06] <mtnd3w> hello, can someone tell me what are some good contact managers for Ubuntu Gnome?
[22:07] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, could you backup your current xorg and redo it again, seems more like resolution problem, anyway log off go into another tty and kill gdm
[22:07] <NacH__> can someone help me with python ?
[22:07] <mohammed510> What does a virtual package mean?
[22:07] <SNAX> does anyone know how to install this damn card "NETGEAR WPN311 RangeMax Wireless PCI Adapter"
[22:07] <Pirate_Hunter> tanth were going to redo xorg might help not promissing
[22:07] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, *
[22:08] <jjg76> Any tips on my firefox issue?
[22:08] <angelgirl> nach can i ask u a quetion??
[22:08] <NacH__> yes
[22:08] <henrik_> can anyone help me to get my HDMI sound working?
[22:08] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, even if changing xorg config fixes it... it's still a bug in something, because it was fine before a recent update. i've been running jaunty for several months now
[22:08] <mohammed510> Any one can help in ubuntu !! .What does a virtual package mean?
[22:08] <NacH__> angelgirl, yes
[22:08] <angelgirl> what is python??
[22:09] <jjg76> Any Guru around that can help me?
[22:09] <Maximo> is Magicjack working with Ubuntu or not?
[22:09] <tanath> angelgirl, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Python_(programming_language)
[22:09] <NacH__> angelgirl, python is programing language ...
[22:09] <bucky> a big snake
[22:09] <hipitihop> jjg76: ask a specific question, don't ask for a guru. if someone knows the answer they will respond
[22:09] <jjg76> Ok
[22:09] <tanath> bucky, no, that would be 'what is a python'? ;p
[22:10] <jjg76> Well here's the problem
[22:10] <mohammed510> Any  one knows what the virtual package means?
[22:10] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, i dont know what the update did for you it could be xorg or you graphic driver that got messed up im just trying stuff. youve stopped all composite so its not that now redoing xorg manually might help (even if it is a pain) than it could just be a case of reinstalling the drivers for your card which i dont want to get into
[22:11] <jjg76> I've changed my view in  firefox from basic to no style and can't change it back\
[22:11] <angelgirl> now all those people dosnt have any other subject only wthat my q was....
[22:11] <dunks__> mohammed510: a virtual package more or less points/lists to actual packages
[22:11] <nicklas_> hello, how do i make a bin or run file executable in xfce? i right click it and go into preferences, but there are no option to make it executable like in gnome
[22:11] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, actually, i had a manual xorg config for the longest time, but i noticed the custom stuff had been commented out, and i was using automatic already anyway
[22:11] <derenrich> nicklas_: can always do it from the terminal
[22:11] <dunks__> like, ubuntu-restricted-extras is a virtual package, as it's more than just one thing
[22:11] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, commented out by HAL
[22:11] <mohammed510> dunks__: some thing like aliase ??
[22:12] <badeagle> there will someday be a programming language called eagle
[22:12] <rww> dunks__: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage. that's not the same thing as a virtual package.
[22:12] <bucky> mohammed510: it's a package that only draws in dependancies but doesn't really have any capabilities of it's own
[22:12] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, i've tried reinstalling lots of potentially relevant packages, including drivers
[22:12] <erUSUL> badeagle: i know of one named falcon ;P
[22:12] <jjg76> I've tried reinstalling firefox, reload the page and stuff like that, but notings working
[22:12] <nicklas_> derenrich, and how do i do that?
[22:12] <derenrich> jjg76: try purging firefox and reinstalling?
[22:13] <derenrich> nicklas_: chmod +x <filename>
[22:13] <mohammed510> bucky: Is there any link that I have to follow to know more ?
[22:13] <jjg76> I tried reinstalling with synaptic
[22:13] <hipitihop> jjg76: in your home folder, there is a hidden folder .mozilla , if you close firefox. delete that folder, then restart firefox, you should be back to defaults. Warning this may clear bookmarks and other settings too
[22:13] <nicklas_> derenrich, i have to be in catalogu for the file?
[22:14] <bucky> mohammed510: google
[22:14] <Randomtime> jjg76: I'd rename the folder to .mozillabak so you keep your settings
[22:14] <mohammed510> bucky: mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[22:14] <derenrich> nicklas_: you need to be in the directory of the file
[22:14] <bucky> jjg76: firefox-gnome-support
[22:14] <bucky> get the whole enchilada
[22:15] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, hmmm potential packages (lifts eye brow in a conspicuous manner) ok well others might be able to help you i dont get that unless im moving from tty to xorg screen, it is not that annoying for me to fix it yet, still ask again someone might have a simpler answer to your question
[22:15] <jjg76> Ok thanks for the advice, it is probably a bug
[22:15] <rww> dunks__, mohammed510: a virtual package isn't an actual package in the repositories, but is provided by other packages. for example, x-window-manager is a virtual package provided by packages like metacity. a metapackage is a package that exists in the repositories, depends or recommends other packages, but doesn't itself do anything. e.g. ubuntu-restricted-extras recommends a bunch of useful stuff, but doesn't itself have anything.
[22:15] <jjg76> Another thing, my soundcard's arrent working
[22:15] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, well it's rather annoying to me. i often have difficulty reading text. and i was trying to work in terminal but couldn't read anything, and repainting only made it worse
[22:16] <mohammed510> rww: Now, I can understand
[22:16] <bucky> mohammed510: maybe i got that mixed up with meta package
[22:16] <dunks__> mhm
[22:16] <jjg76> 9.04 seems to reconise them, but none of my (no kidding) 20 outputs give a sound
[22:16] <mohammed510> bucky , rww : Thanks very much now I really understand
[22:16] <hipitihop> Ktron: no other ideas ? I'm wondering about in the home dir but nothing stands out
[22:16] <bucky> mohammed510: if you google virtual package it's the first hit
[22:16] <nicklas_> derenrich, ty
[22:16] <jjg76> With 8.10 it worked wright away
[22:17] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, i reinstalled compiz packages, my vid driver package, and some other things i forget
[22:17] <nicklas_> derenrich, didnt use sudo but it worked anyway, does that matter?
[22:17] <derenrich> nicklas_: shouldn't need sudo
[22:17] <nicklas_> k
[22:17] <MicheleZ> Hello, I have a problem with Nautilus. Cannot access trash, sftp, network etc... it seems I have a problem with glib and gvfs not being in the same location, but don't know how to solve this issue
[22:17] <d135-1r43> Hi! My Ubuntu now tries to install libpurple-bin for 10 mins. What went wrong?
[22:17] <jim____> Anyone know why my lo interface isn't coming up at boot anymore?  I have to `ifconfig lo up` it manually.  Sure, I can put it in a bootscript, but I'd like to figure out what happened
[22:17] <jjg76> Any advice with this soundcard problem?
[22:18] <MK13> is there a 'network login' option in ubuntu like there is in windows
[22:18] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, i just learned something interesting
[22:18] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, you mentioned yours only did it on coming back from other ttys...
[22:19] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, well, i just tried my other ttys and they're all corrupted, and unsuable. with the bottom of the screen showing what X was displaying there...
[22:19] <hipitihop> MK13: not sure what you mean, but if you are asking if it is possible to setup a thin client or have the users home dir mounted on a remote file system then yes to all above
[22:19] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, and X is now on tty 9 instead of 7 like it used to be
[22:19] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, also, display was fine when i switched back, but is slowly glitching up now
[22:20] <[ROSedu]AlexJ> hello
[22:20] <[ROSedu]AlexJ> is there anyway to execute a command as if i was inside the GUI while i am a CLI over ssh
[22:20] <jjg76> any soundcard tips
[22:20] <MK13> hipitihop, well like in windows a server can be setup then when you logon to any of the computers on the network you can use your login without each computer needing to have you added on each one
[22:20] <tomasz> p
[22:21] <jjg76> No audio with 2 maudio delta 1010 soundcarts
[22:21] <queso> I am having trouble getting my wireless working.  I've started a thread to get some help, but no one has responded: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1203540  If you have any time, I'd appreciate your help. Thanks ;)
[22:21] <x2b> hello people, does anyone of you have experience with the 2.6.30 vanilla kernel?? I built it but each time I try to boot it I get the error "/lib/modules/2.6.30.1/modules.dep" no such file or direcotry... Even though the file _does_ exist...
[22:22] <jjg76> Can anyone help me?
[22:22] <LogicFan> hrm, any word on when firefox 3.5 will officially hit the repos?
[22:22] <LogicFan> !firefox
[22:22] <LogicFan> !firefox-3.5
[22:22] <macvr> x2b: are you using ext4?
[22:22] <x2b> nope, ext3
[22:23] <erUSUL> x2b: i get the same error but afaics is harmless everything works fine
[22:23] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, you did a lot which may not have been needed, tty 9 (hmm weird i thought it is on 7 by default, something new) it sounds to me the latest update messed either with your xorg or driver. The way i would approah this would be by removing graphics and backing up xorg, stop all composite including conky and run on basic graphics 800*600 by default. graphic driver installed first (tested) and so on
[22:24] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, i dont know how to help you except like that you may ask again to see if soemoen knows an easier way I do stuff manually and never let ubuntu configure stuff for me
[22:24] <x2b> well, a critical error during boot shouldnt be harmless should it?
[22:24] <WindowsUser> !8.10
[22:25] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, i'm actually used the default open source driver. fglrx doesn't work sometimes and is often a pain
[22:25] <AE^^laptop> how can i know the name of a drive i wanna mount?
[22:25] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, thanks for your help though
[22:26] <Roland> what videocards have hardware accelerated video playback on linux/ubuntu?
[22:26] <hipitihop> MK13: yes that is possible. there are also lots of options though. home drives can be setup to mount from the server pretty simply. password authentication is a little more involved.
[22:26] <Roland> which*
[22:26] <AE^^laptop> nvidia 8x00 and above
[22:27] <AE^^laptop> i just told you
[22:27] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, sorry i wasn't of any help dont think there would be an easier way to approach your problem but do ask again
[22:28] <Guest26991> can someone help me??
[22:28] <hipitihop> MK13: authentication see e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/network-authentication.html
[22:28] <MK13> hipitihop, kk
[22:29] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, i'd try that, but i despise 800*600. the stuff on my screen doesn't even fit >.<
[22:29] <Roland> Guest26991: just ask
[22:29] <Guest26991> i need help with the xorg.conf
[22:29] <Guest26991> i have a hybrid sli notebook..
[22:30] <Guest26991> and want the 3d accelrated nvidia driver work with the nvidia chip..
[22:30] <hipitihop> Ktron:  thanks for trying, giving up for now, time to do some work
[22:30] <jiffe> alright, I created a gfs2 partition, when I try to mount it, it complains '/sbin/mount.gfs2: can't connect to gfs_controld: Connection refused'
[22:31] <OttifantSir> @Guest26991: From Category5.tv: Try using an older nvidia driver. That may solve the problem.
[22:31] <mnmldmage> hey
[22:31] <mnmldmage> guys
[22:31] <MK13> how can i backup a partition over lan?
[22:31] <Guest26991> which one u mean....not the 180
[22:31] <mnmldmage> is hire any bulgarians
[22:31] <mnmldmage> ?
[22:32] <Guest26991> or u mean a legacy driver??
[22:32] <OttifantSir> @Guest26991: I have never had nvida cards, so can't say more. All I know, is that 180-driver didn't work as expected for Robbie on Category5.tv, and he used 173 I think.
[22:33] <Guest26991> ah ok...
[22:33] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, that res is for testing purpose still i wonder if the same problem would occur if you were using a different wm like icewm or flux...
[22:33] <Guest26991> i'll give it a try..
[22:33] <AE^^laptop> how can i know the name of a drive i wanna mount?
[22:33] <mnmldmage> how to change tha language i write ?
[22:34] <linuxguy2009> Ok I am like 5min away from calling it quits with screencasting on here.Just doesnt seem to be anything worth a darn in video editing. All I want is to add a wav voiceover to a AVI lossless screencast. Then after that i will re-encode the final to MP4 and youtube it. Im stuck.Can anyone help?
[22:34] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, strange, it's find with icewm
[22:34] <tanath> *fine
[22:34] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, wait, no it isn't
[22:35] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, but switching to icewm has messed my desktop switcher in bottom right corner. i have 4 (for cube) and each is displayed 4 times.... >.<
[22:35] <reporterdude> hi all
[22:36] <reporterdude> I have a question about dual booting between Vista and Ubuntu 9.04
[22:36] <WindowsUser> can I disable ctrl+alt+f1 somehow?
[22:36] <linuxguy2009> Someone here recomended before that I do the screencast and use sound recorder for the audio.I did that and now Im just stuck.No idea how to combine em.
[22:36] <jiffe> well there is a kernel module for gfs, so apparently it should work, I can't find any documentation stating that anyone has gotten it to work though
[22:37] <iceroot> !ask | reporterdude
[22:37] <Hilikus> will ufw by default limit the number of connections to avoid floods? i see the option in user.rules but i don't know if it applies to everything
[22:37] <Hilikus> -A ufw-user-limit -m limit --limit 3/minute -j LOG --log-prefix "[UFW LIMIT BLOCK] "
[22:37] <reporterdude> is there away to run each os in such a way that i dont have to keep restarting to get from one to the other ??
[22:38] <linuxguy2009> reporterdude: Wanting to run some virtual machines?
[22:38] <iceroot> reporterdude:: just with a vm
[22:38] <iceroot> !vbox | reporterdude
[22:38] <linuxguy2009> reporterdude: virtualbox.org
[22:38] <WindowsUser> Hilikus: you're looking at a tiny part of something, that could be a limit so it only logs 3 a minute ;)
[22:39] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, why is compiz running and i aint aware compiz worked with icewm, huh? just wanted to make sure other wms worked without glitching it would be a temporary solution till you fixed gnome
[22:39] <Hilikus> WindowsUser: how do you know its just a part??
[22:39] <reporterdude> vbox ?? ok.. i will download it.. I knew there was a way, but couldnt figure it out on my own.
[22:39] <MrCraig> kernel: [17166.741088] usb 3-1: config 1 has an invalid descriptor of length 26, skipping remainder of the config <-- mean anything to anyone?
[22:39] <reporterdude> linuxguy, thanks for the link
[22:39] <linuxguy2009> welcome
[22:40] <tanath> Pirate_Hunter, compiz wasn't running - it doesn't. i switch between them with fusion-icon
[22:40] <linuxguy2009> reporterdude: There is the open source version in the repos and there is the other one at virtualbox.org.I recomend the later because it has USB support.
[22:40] <WindowsUser> Hilikus: it looks like iptables syntax, and ufw passes stuff around a bit
[22:41] <Hilikus> WindowsUser: it is iptables. are you familiar with ufw?
[22:41] <WindowsUser> nope :)
[22:42] <linuxguy2009> Well i guess Ill go back and try to get my USB headset to work with gtkrecordmydesktop again.Looks like the only complicated solution.hehe
[22:42] <Pirate_Hunter> tanath, ok no clue about that just checked online, if you dont get glitching if other wms you can use those for now it you get gnome working try searching the form for your problem
[22:43] <maccam94> i'm currently installing ubuntu server. if i set up / on an lvm + raid1 logical volume, can grub boot it?
[22:43] <KDE4000> how can I make a process for cron run as a certian user?
[22:44] <joejc> I'M NOT YELLING. MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK. CAN ANYONE HELP ME
[22:44] <WindowsUser> KDE4000: edit that users crontab or put it in /etc/crontab
[22:44] <maccam94> joejc: hold down shift when you type to negate capslock
[22:44] <lostson> lol
[22:45] <MrCraig> lol
[22:45] <maccam94> :-P
[22:45] <joejc> any fix that doesnt requre my to hold something down?
[22:45] <lostson> that is classic
[22:45] <ryanakca> Should one use otpw or OPIE for one time password logins (for ssh from untrested clients, etc?)
[22:45] <lostson> yeah fix your keyboard
[22:45] <WindowsUser> KDE4000: it should have an example like "0 0 * * * root reboot " ^_^
[22:45] <maccam94> joejc: try unplugging and plugging the keyboard back in?
[22:45] <joejc> its wireless
[22:45] <daveyc> Hi guys, really quick question. Did ubuntu release a bunch of updates around 2 hours ago, or does autoupdate on ubuntu set to update at around that time?
[22:45] <MrCraig> blue tack on the shift key?
[22:46] <ryanakca> joejc: You can pop the key off with a knife or a screwdriver, just squeeze it under the key and pry it off... check if there's anything sticking...
[22:46] <OttifantSir> @maccam94: That should work, depending a little on if you run hardware-RAID or software-RAID, and in which order you do it. That's all I know about it. Have set up LVM, but not RAID, so ask again for more info on what is best and in which order.
[22:46] <maccam94> daveyc: i believe update checks are scheduled by your computer
[22:46] <WindowsUser> daveyc: the apt-get update from cron is once a day
[22:46] <willywg> Hi folks!
[22:46] <maccam94> OttifantSir: i'm just using software raid and lvm through the 9.04 installer.
[22:46] <MrCraig> joejc - weird idea I know, but try bashing the left and right shift keys alternately for a sec - I had a wireless keyb that sometimes did that in windblowz and that seemed to fix it
[22:46] <daveyc> @windowsuser don't suppose you know the default time it checks do you?
[22:46] <ryanakca> joejc: is it caps lock in a terminal (Ctrl-Alt-F1 to check, type in stuff, is it caps?, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to switch pack)
[22:47] <willywg> I want to upgrade from Gutsy to Hardy, but I can't install update-manager-core
[22:47] <willywg> here is the error: http://pastie.org/536289
[22:47] <OttifantSir> @maccam94: I seem to remember that hardware RAID is preferable in that situation, but not certain.
[22:47] <joejc> NOPE
[22:47] <joejc> sorry
[22:48] <reporterdude> i just installed virtualbox on ubuntu 9.04. where would i find it now ??
[22:48] <MrCraig> ok - I'm now offering to mail 1 packet of jammy dodgers and 1 packet of custard creames to anyone who even has a go at fixing my printing issue.
[22:48] <frostburn> reporterdude, when you restart, alternatively hit alt f2 and type VirtualBox
[22:48] <maccam94> OttifantSir: i've made a single partition on each of the two hard drives, taking up the whole drive. then i used the installer to create a raid1 array using those two partitions, and then made that array into a volume group
[22:48] <reporterdude> thank you
[22:48] <ryanakca> joejc: try popping off the key.
[22:48] <OttifantSir> @maccam94: Try going to this link. I haven't read it, it was the top of google-search
[22:48] <joejc> is it possible to shift lock?
[22:49] <maccam94> OttifantSir: you didn't paste the link
[22:49] <OttifantSir> @m94 ooooopppsss... forgot the link: http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/manual/html_chapter/parted_7.html
[22:49] <rashed2020_> What's the difference between ifconfig and ip?
[22:50] <faryshta_> Hi, were can I get drivers to get injection on an atheros card?
[22:50] <Wolfman2000> Afternoon/evening.  I right now have Postgresql 8.3 installed via aptitude on Intrepid.  I do not know how long it will be before 8.4 comes down the pipeline.  If Iwere to compile 8.4 manually, would it interfere with the current install?
[22:50] <joejc> faryshta_, why would u want injection?
[22:51] <faryshta_> joejc, Aircrack. I would like to learn about it.
[22:51] <KDE4000> WindowsUser: 0,10,20,30,40,50 * * * ircd   /home/mydir-to/ircdcron/ircdchk >/dev/null 2>&1 ?
[22:51] <bullgard4> On 2 laptop computers the Volume Control Applet 2.26.1 (after Ubuntu dist-upgrade 8.04.2 > 8.10 > 9.04) appears with Mute=asserted after computer startup. How can I configure it so that it will automatically not appear as muted after bootup?
[22:51] <joejc> faryshta_, ur sure your card can do it?
[22:51] <ericindc_> Is it possible to set aliases for a user name?
[22:52] <ericindc_> So for example the user "joeuser" could also just log in as "joe"?
[22:52] <faryshta_> joejc, yes I am sure. But the last time I patched the kernel, now the patches have been disabled.
[22:53] <WindowsUser> KDE4000: I only count 4 time fields in there
[22:53] <WindowsUser> wheres the dow?
[22:53] <WindowsUser> 0 0 * * 0 ircd <-- midnight on mondays
[22:55] <owner_> anyone can help me configure b43 driver?
[22:55] <Graviton> WindowsUser: That would be midnight on Sundays
[22:55] <AE^^laptop> how do i update the virus definitions in clamav?
[22:55] <WindowsUser> anyways
[22:55] <owner_> anyone can help me configure b43 driver?
[22:56]  * WindowsUser points at his /nick
[22:56] <Graviton> :)
[22:56] <OttifantSir> @AE^^laptop: If I remember correctly, you have to run ClamAV as superuser. "gksu clamav"
[22:57] <AE^^laptop> k
[22:58] <cornerstone> any idea why my numeric keypad works on login but not after login? I cant get it to work within the OS after the GDM screen is passed
[22:58] <shino__> nick Shino
[22:58] <OttifantSir> @cornerstone: Not even after pushing NumLock?
[22:58] <owner_> anyone can help me configure b43 driver?
[22:59] <cornerstone> OttifantSir: nope, once I get logged in, i cant get it working at all
[22:59] <OttifantSir> @cornerstone: Is it a stand-alone keypad for a wireless set?
[22:59] <AE^^laptop> OttifantSir: not sure anything happens when i executed that
[23:00] <cornerstone> OttifantSir: got it working, found this:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4444700&postcount=5
[23:00] <OttifantSir> @AE^^laptop: Let me install it and see how I did it last time.
[23:00] <cornerstone> OttifantSir: thanks for at the very least responding. Good evening..
[23:00] <AE^^laptop> thx
[23:04] <owner_> anyone can help me configure b43 driver?
[23:04] <erUSUL> owner_: define configure? you need to enable the driver or configure the connection or what ?
[23:04] <klemen> i hawe ubuntu 9.04 fresh user, noob, my question is how/where to get drivers for graphic card, my computer is rebooting ewery 20 minuts asking me for pass and user name!thanks
[23:04] <erUSUL> !pm | owner_
[23:05] <klemen> any help, advice?
[23:05] <erUSUL> owner_: did you installed the b43-fwcutter package ??
[23:06] <owner_> already
[23:06] <owner_> but not work
[23:06] <owner_> not show in package driver
[23:06] <OttifantSir> @AE^^laptop: I'm not sure I ever got ClamAV to work when I see it again. I much prefer avast! to any other AV out there: http://avast.com/eng/download-avast-for-linux-edition.html
[23:06] <klemen> are this package in software manager  like software updates?
[23:06] <erUSUL> owner_: you do not get wlan0 after reboot ? on the iwconfig output?
[23:06] <silidan1> hi, i want to install nvidia drivers form nvidia site, do i have to remove the ubuntu drivers before i do that?
[23:06] <owner_> yes..
[23:06] <owner_> only eth1
[23:06] <ryan____> when trying to run Glest i get the following error. Exception: Error accessing value: AutoTest in: glest.ini
[23:07] <ryan____> Value not found in propertyMap: AutoTest, loaded from: glest.ini
[23:07] <owner_> use by broadcom STA driver
[23:07] <erUSUL> owner_: maybe your card is not supported by b43 ?
[23:07] <owner_> no..
[23:07] <erUSUL> owner_: lspci | grep -i net
[23:07] <klemen> silidan i hawe a same problem, some people told me that ubutnut has driwers in their base...so i dont know frome where to get driwers
[23:08] <erUSUL> klemen: what graphic card do you have ?
[23:08] <klemen> ATI radeon
[23:08] <BloodyScum> I have been running a dual boot on this comp for a while of ubuntu 7.10 and XP now i have a laptop that i have made ubuntu the sole OS on, and i want to remove it from this desktop. i would also like to remove the boot loader from this drive without damaging the XP operating system, is that possible? and how?
[23:08] <owner_> before this..i can use b43 driver..but now i forgot how i do before
[23:08] <CaptainMorgan> BloodyScum, yes, it's possible
[23:08] <owner_> owner@Silent-evil:~$ lspci | grep -i net
[23:08] <owner_> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Ethernet (rev a2)
[23:08] <owner_> 04:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11a/b/g (rev 02)
[23:08] <owner_> owner@Silent-evil:~$
[23:08] <Ahadiel> BloodyScum, boot from the windows CD, get to a recovery console, and type "fixmbr"
[23:08] <FloodBot2> owner_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <Ahadiel> BloodyScum, or something along those lines
[23:09] <OttifantSir> @owner: If you have eth1 and Broadcom STA driver, it should work. You probably used ndiswrapper before
[23:09] <BloodyScum> Ahadiel: i follow you, thanks
[23:09] <CaptainMorgan> BloodyScum, do a search for fixmbr -- you need boot into win, run that little program, then you can reboot into Ubuntu
[23:09] <klemen> erusul what woudkl be the best thing for insatling driwers?
[23:09] <owner_> but..i want b43 driver
[23:09] <CaptainMorgan> from there, you can delete the win partition and re-partition the whole thing
[23:10] <Ahadiel> owner_, you probably need to blacklist wl
[23:10] <erUSUL> klemen: system>administration>hardware drivers
[23:10] <owner_> how?
[23:10] <owner_> than i can use b43?
[23:10] <Ahadiel> CaptainMorgan, he can just resize the windows partition to fill the rest of the drive
[23:10] <Ahadiel> owner_, uhhh, let me see
[23:10] <Ahadiel> !blacklist
[23:10] <owner_> oke..
[23:10] <owner_> er..
[23:10] <owner_> ubottu: ?
[23:11] <CaptainMorgan> Ahadiel, ya, there's more than one way to everything
[23:11] <owner_> follow that?
[23:11] <Ahadiel> owner_, gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist
[23:11] <erUSUL> BloodyScum: first use a windows cd to restore the windows bootloader then do whatever you please with the ubuntu partitions (remove them to make a ntfs one for example)
[23:11] <Ahadiel> owner_, and paste, "blacklist wl"
[23:11] <owner_> with " ?
[23:11] <Ahadiel> owner_, nope
[23:11] <klemen> erusul the program said:No propriatery drivers are in use in this system
[23:11] <owner_> oke
[23:11] <owner_> wait
[23:12] <owner_> then?
[23:12] <erUSUL> klemen: again. what graphic card do you have in your system?
[23:12] <Ahadiel> owner_, reboot and it should load b43
[23:12] <klemen> ati radeon 9600 pro
[23:12] <owner_> save?
[23:12] <Ahadiel> owner_, assuming b43 is configured and working
[23:12] <BloodyScum> Ahadiel, CaptainMorgan, erUSUL thanks
[23:12] <Ahadiel> owner_, yeah
[23:12] <owner_> oke
[23:12] <owner_> wait
[23:12] <owner_> i try?
[23:12] <owner_> how about installation b43?
[23:12] <cjae> is there any easytag genius' in here
[23:13] <Ahadiel> owner_, Did you install b43 via the Hardware Drivers GUI?
[23:13] <owner_> but before this i already install b43-fwcutter
[23:13] <owner_> not..i install in terminal
[23:13] <Ahadiel> owner_, have you tried System -> Admin -> Hardware Drivers?
[23:13] <owner_> i see first
[23:13] <Ahadiel> owner_, I'm not sure if the b43-fwcutter package also grabs the required drivers from broadcom
[23:13] <Ahadiel> owner_, I'm almost positive Hardware Drivers does
[23:14] <KDE4000> how do i rename a ubuntu machine?
[23:14] <erUSUL> Ahadiel: owner_ it grabs the firmware for the card. it is the only missing piece
[23:14] <erUSUL> !hostname
[23:14] <KDE4000> i keep trying to set the hostname, and it just returns it to what it was before
[23:14] <klemen> erusul so where to get driwers for GC?
[23:14] <Ahadiel> erUSUL, ah, okay.
[23:15] <owner_> missing place?
[23:15] <owner_> where my mistake?
[23:15] <owner_> can sure for me?
[23:15] <owner_> how about blacklist wl?
[23:15] <erUSUL> !envyng | klemen
[23:15] <Ahadiel> owner_, System -> Admin -> Hardware Drivers
[23:15] <Ahadiel> owner_, enable b43, and remove anything else
[23:15] <Ahadiel> owner_, then reboot
[23:15] <owner_> b43 not show up
[23:15] <klemen> uboutu
[23:15] <Ahadiel> owner_, What does show up then?
[23:15] <HiNoSaki> hi you all
[23:15] <owner_> b43 not show up in hardware driver
[23:15] <owner_> broadcom STA driver
[23:16] <klemen> THE last time i try to use order in terminal ENYNG i couldnt get anymore in system, that was in linux mint
[23:16] <Ahadiel> owner_, and that's it?
[23:16] <klemen> than there was order enyng --unistall -all
[23:16] <klemen> haha
[23:16] <owner_> and nvidia graphic driver
[23:17] <owner_> that all
[23:17] <owner_> no b43 driver show up
[23:17] <Ahadiel> owner_, Did you add "blacklist wl" to that file yet?
[23:17] <OttifantSir> @owner: That's what I have too. But I have had both before I used the STA driver. Try Deactivating it, reboot, go to Hardware Drivers and check again
[23:17] <cjae> how the hell do you the cddb search in easytag, you have to have to album first? how do you apply to tag
[23:17] <owner_> yes..
[23:17] <Ahadiel> owner_, Okay, then reboot and see if it works.
[23:17] <owner_> but i not yet restart
[23:17] <owner_> i must restart first?
[23:17] <KDE4000> its still renaming itsself back
[23:17] <owner_> oke..
[23:17] <owner_> i try..
[23:17] <klemen> so if i download driwers frome amd site would be ok?
[23:17] <Ahadiel> owner_, well.. wait
[23:17] <owner_> i i`ll back
[23:18] <KDE4000> hostname="myhostname.mydomain.com"
[23:18] <Ahadiel> owner_, We could probably just reload the module
[23:18] <KDE4000> reboot it, and its back
[23:18] <KDE4000> in /etc/hostname
[23:18] <Ahadiel> owner_, sec
[23:18] <Ahadiel> owner_, pastebin the output of iwconfig
[23:18] <Ahadiel> oh well, he's gone
[23:19] <CyberGabber> /wc
[23:19] <OttifantSir> @AHADIEL: Sorry bout that. I know you could have probably used modprobe and such, but to me, it seemed easier to check with a reboot
[23:19] <CleanLaundry> what is the difference between "mv" and "cp" ?
[23:20] <Ahadiel> OttifantSir, meh
[23:20] <mohammed510> I have a question about the command locate
[23:21] <OttifantSir> @CleanLaundry: mv = move the files and delete them from source. cp = copy the files to destination and keep them in source directory
[23:21] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, What's the question?
[23:21] <CleanLaundry> OttifantSir, great thanks
[23:21] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : It doesn't search in the mounted partitions
[23:21] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, have you run updatedb?
[23:21] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : yes
[23:22] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, hrm
[23:23] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : I have a mounted partition it's label is VBOX
[23:23] <th0r> I am having problems with the workspace switcher in xfce. Does anyone know of another software package that could give me multiple desktops in xfce?
[23:23] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, what filesystem is it?
[23:23] <mohammed510> Ahadiel: When I make ... locate VBOX  .... The result is no thing
[23:24] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : They filesystem is vfat
[23:24] <packet-sent> I have an file which I need to ensure has been copied correctly, does ubuntu perform error checking when copying files to ensure every bit is sent correctly and  then check the new location for integrity of the copied data
[23:24] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, where is "VBOX" mounted? ie. /media/disk
[23:25] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : It is mounted in /media/VBOX
[23:25] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, hrm
[23:25] <mohammed510> Ahadiel: What doesn hrm means?
[23:25] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:25] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, Can you pastebin your /etc/updatedb.conf?
[23:25] <mohammed510> Ahadiel Ok
[23:26] <owner_> hhmm
[23:26] <owner_> Ahadiel:
[23:26] <Ahadiel> owner_, Didn't work?
[23:26] <owner_> Ahadiel:  not work
[23:26] <OttifantSir> @packet-sent: Install gtk-hash. Make a md5sum of the file before copying, then check it after it's copied. Or any other hash-check program you wish. I only know of gtk-hash that has a GUI.
[23:26] <Ahadiel> owner_, So you had to re-enable wl?
[23:26] <owner_> i remove my blacklist
[23:26] <Ahadiel> ah
[23:26] <owner_> yes
[23:26] <owner_> how?
[23:26] <cephas> hey all
[23:27] <Ahadiel> owner_, I'm thinking.
[23:27] <n2diy> how would I execute the bell command over ssh?
[23:27] <owner_> oke..
[23:27] <Ahadiel> owner_, try reinstalling b43-fwcutter
[23:27] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : http://pastebin.com/m2e6a9ffe
[23:27] <owner_> how?
[23:27] <owner_> how to re-install b43-fwcutter
[23:27] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, remove the "/media" from PRUNEPATHS
[23:28] <packet-sent> OttifantSir: I have used md5sum to check the file just wondered if the copy process does error checking on the file and destination nativly
[23:28] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, then run updatedb again
[23:28] <Ahadiel> owner_, Let me see
[23:28] <cephas> Just a quick shout: Ubuntu based laptop for sale http://is.gd/1p426
[23:28] <KDE4000> I cannot rename this ubuntu server, i set /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts, reboot, and the files are back the way they were before
[23:28] <mohammed510> Ahadiel , Does the PRUNPATHS stop the locate command?
[23:28] <owner_> oke
[23:29] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, the folders in PRUNEPATHS are ignored by updatedb IIRC
[23:29] <OttifantSir> @packet-sent: Not to such a degree as a hash-checker. It checks the data while copying, and doesn't delete the file from the source before it's completely moved if that's what you're doing.
[23:29] <Ahadiel> Owner, apt-get --reinstall install b43-fwcutter
[23:29] <Owner> oke
[23:29] <Ahadiel> Owner, sudo apt-get --reinstall install b43-fwcutter
[23:29] <losher> n2diy: the 'bell' command?
[23:30] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, That's why locate VBOX didn't return anything.
[23:30] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, because /media isn't indexed
[23:30] <Owner> this is reinstalling right?
[23:30] <Ahadiel> Owner, yeah
[23:30] <mohammed510> Ahadiel: Thanks , the problem is solved
[23:30] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, Glad to have helped.
[23:30] <n2diy> losher: actually, I've learned it is an imbedded character. Yes, bell, makes the machine beep.
[23:31] <Owner> already..but required to restart not showing
[23:31] <Ahadiel> n2diy, \a
[23:31] <Ahadiel> Owner, what?
[23:31] <Owner> i must to manually myself to restart this system?
[23:31] <adi__> hi ppl
[23:31] <losher> n2diy: control-G ?
[23:32] <Ahadiel> Owner, let me see
[23:32] <mohammed510> Ahadiel: May I know your nationality??
[23:32] <Owner> i already reinstall b43-fwcutter
[23:32] <Owner> oke
[23:32] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, Canadian
[23:32] <billybigrig> Ahadiel: where abouts? calgary here
[23:32] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : I am Egyptian
[23:32] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, I'm white/asian :D
[23:32] <Ahadiel> billybigrig, BC
[23:33] <n2diy> losher: nope, didn't work.
[23:33] <Ahadiel> Owner, can you pastebin the output of "iwconfig"?
[23:33] <mohammed510> Ahadiel : May I ask you to be friends?
[23:33] <Owner> how?
[23:33] <Owner> in terminal?
[23:33] <Ahadiel> Owner, run that command in the terminal, and copy/paste the output to pastebin
[23:33] <Ahadiel> !paste | Owner
[23:34] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, Sure.
[23:34] <Owner> i show u
[23:34] <mohammed510> Can I have your mail-address in the private?
[23:34] <Owner> then?
[23:34] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, nope
[23:34] <indy_> hi all
[23:34] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, But you can come in here and ask for help anytime :D
[23:34] <Owner> Ahadiel:  ?
[23:34] <Ahadiel> Owner, sec
[23:35] <Owner> oke
[23:35] <losher> n2diy: I've done something like it in the past using echo "^G" . You could then do ssh <host> 'echo "^G"' but the quoting is tricky and you need an editor that will let you embed the ctrl-G character
[23:35] <mohammed510> Ahadiel: Ok , no problem
[23:35] <mohammed510> Ahadiel: Thanks again for your help
[23:35] <Ahadiel> mohammed510, yeah, no problem
[23:36] <n2diy> losher: yes, my playing with the concept now, but the syntax is tricky.
[23:36] <owen1> can i comment all the deb-src entries in my sources.list ?
[23:37] <vegarturo> can anyone tell me how to add a linux-swap to a partition?
[23:37] <indy_> can anyone help me out with some advise on ndiswrapper?
[23:37] <losher> n2diy: might be easier to write a little C program called 'beep' and invoke that instead
[23:37] <vilemaxim> join /vmware
[23:38] <nibbler__> is there any filebrowser like nautilus, which can deal with ctime, and not just m/atime?
[23:38] <losher> vilemaxim: try /join #vmware
[23:38] <adi__> vegarturo, terminal -- cfdisk -- new partittion in empty space, choose type swap
[23:38] <n2diy> losher: I just found that \a is the same as C-g. Roger on the program, might be an option if I can find a perl  or bash script.
[23:38] <AakashPatel> is there some type of application to make an automated voice answering system that uses the modem?  like it has menus and such, and will transfer you...etc?
[23:39] <Ahadiel> AakashPatel, I think asterisk does that.
[23:39] <losher> owen1: yes, should be fine if you aren't downloading source code
[23:39] <Ahadiel> AakashPatel, http://www.asterisk.org/
[23:39] <owen1> losher: got it , thanks
[23:39] <indy_> if i use the ndiswrapper to install my native wifi drivers how can i got back to the linux ones if it doesn't work?
[23:39] <AakashPatel> Ahadiel: astrisks can use the modem? i thought iwas only ip
[23:40] <Ahadiel> AakashPatel, oh, maybe you're right.
[23:40] <Dulak> AakashPatel: it can't use a modem, but it can use an analog card that plugs into normal phone lines
[23:41] <Cyberkaia> hola, disculpen que los moleste alguno me podria pasar una sources.list para ubuntu 7.10
[23:41] <losher> !es | Cyberkaia
[23:41] <Cyberkaia> porque estoy tratandod e ayudar a un amigo hace horas.. y solo errores..
[23:41] <Cyberkaia> thx
[23:41] <AakashPatel> Dulak: analog card?
[23:41] <OttifantSir> @AkashPatel: Asterisk can be used with Voice over IP (SIP, H.323, IAX and more) standards, or the Public Switched Telephone Network (PSTN) through supported hardware. (From Synaptic)
[23:42] <Dulak> AakashPatel: yes an analog PSTN card, you can get it in 1, 2, and 4 per card
[23:42] <AakashPatel> oh
[23:42] <Hilikus> what does this mean
[23:42] <Hilikus> 192.168.0.0/16
[23:42] <Hilikus> i'm not familiar with the / syntax
[23:43] <pp7> i wanna know that too
[23:43] <pp7> i think it means the something about the lowest 16 bits
[23:43] <pp7> those bits being 0.0
[23:44] <pp7> i mean 0,0
[23:44] <OttifantSir> @Hilikus: If I remember correctly, 192.168.0.1/255 uses the entire 192.168.0.x-range, while /16 uses only 16 of the 255 available
[23:44] <pp7> erm 0.0
[23:44] <Dulak> No, a /16 is the entire block
[23:44] <Dulak> 256 class c network blocks
[23:45] <Arimal> hello all!
[23:45] <nlko> hi guys, how do i play things like youtube in firefox? ive downloaded the plugin it asked me to, but it just freezes
[23:45] <Hilikus> Dulak:  so if i want 192.168.0.1 - 192.168.0.255 i should use 192.168.0.0/8  ?
[23:45] <coleys> nlko: 64 bit?
[23:45] <Arimal> can anyone help me out with using dpkg-scanpackages to make a repository? for some reason it is not printing anything into the Packages file
[23:45] <Dulak> Hilikus: yes
[23:45] <nlko> coleys: 32
[23:45] <Hilikus> Dulak: cool, thanks
[23:46] <coleys> nlko: Download .deb from flash website. =o
[23:46] <Dulak> Hilikus: wait, that's a /24, not a /8
[23:46] <Dulak> Hilikus: 192.168.0.0/24
[23:46] <Hilikus> Dulak: how come???
[23:47] <Dulak> Hilikus: because each octet is a /8
[23:47] <nlko> coleys:  should i remove swfdec ?
[23:47] <coleys> nlko: Yeah. =O
[23:47] <Dulak> Hilikus: 192.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16, etc
[23:47] <Dulak> Hilikus: for 256 hosts, it's /24
[23:47] <Dulak> Hilikus: http://krow.net/dict/subnet.html
[23:48] <Hilikus> Dulak: thanks!
[23:53] <muts_> salut tout le monde y a des francophones?
[23:54] <kujiu> muts_: bonjour, pour les francophones merci d'aller sur #ubuntu-fr
[23:54] <henrik_> can anyone help me to get my HDMI sound working?
[23:54] <muts_> merci kujiu
[23:56] <AlfredHitchcock> poop
[23:57] <coffeej> It seems I need gspca for my webcam.  I downloaded it from synaptic.  what do i do next?
[23:57] <heath|home> #dovecot
[23:57] <mun_> hi
[23:57] <nlko> coleys: ive installed flash player 10, and it still just shows a big grey 'play' button
[23:57] <mun_> does anyone know how to convert powerpoint files to pdf in the terminal?
[23:57] <vegarturo> i'm running the update manager and it gives me "Could not download all repository indexes"
[23:57] <adi__> coffeej, just put it on trash. i own me too one webcam and gspcav it's full of bugs
[23:58] <coffeej> thanks for the encouragement! ;o)
[23:58] <adi__> coffeej, i've waste a week to make it working without success