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stevemccwhen i choose ubuntu one from the gnome main menu what is the name of the process that is supposed to be running?04:32
kklimondahey, I had to reinstall system and now I can't get u1 to work05:10
kklimondaI get http://pastebin.com/f42bb6ff905:12
kklimondait's from oauth-login.log05:12
w0jrlhello all05:19
w0jrlhow do I sync my files with the ubuntuone server after putting them in the ubuntuone folder in my home directory?05:22
w0jrlare they supposed to sync automaticly?05:24
w0jrl!syncing05:25
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about syncing05:25
kklimondayes, they are supposed to sync automatically05:25
w0jrlis there a way i can force it? when I look at my account on the website, it says that there aren't any files05:27
w0jrldoes anyone else have this issue? when I run ubuntuone in the background and try to connect to my local samba share, nautilus crashes05:43
eekfonky3I'm getting an ubuntuone-client on my update manager, but it's greyed out, what's going on?09:53
danagesame here09:56
eekfonky3I just went to synaptic and installed the ubuntuone-client-gnome09:57
eekfonky3hoping that helps09:57
eekfonky1ok I installed ubuntuone-client-gnome, and the update then worked but I had to uninstall ubuntuone-storage-protocol and ubuntuone-ppa-beta, is this ok?10:11
elkythe invitations page is producing an oops "Unfortunately, we've experienced an error. It has been reported to the administrators and should be fixed shortly. Thanks for your patience. Oops-ID: 1281appserver57"11:40
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=ID11:40
artira secret canonical webpage :o12:10
alanbellwell I say warthogs to that12:41
jdobrienelky: what happened?12:44
jdobrienfacundobatista: someone followed a link to our site from here: http://punk-linux.blogspot.com/2009/06/llego-mi-imvitacion-ubuntu-one.html12:53
facundobatistajdobrien, spanish, with a lot of spelling misakes12:54
facundobatista*mistakes12:54
facundobatistajdobrien, and have images that point to our servers, which don't appear, like: https://media.ubuntuone.com/media/img/install/gdebi.png12:55
jdobrienfacundobatista: yeah12:55
jdobrienfacundobatista: https://admin.ubunet.canonical.com/~ubunet/oops.cgi/2009-07-05/appserver5712:55
facundobatista(it's ok for those to not appear, we shouldn't let them... or at least I don't let people do that with my info)12:55
jdobrienfacundobatista: for some reason we are logging 404's on missing image links. That seems kind of dumb since our apache logs would do12:56
facundobatistajdobrien, I'm ok with a log in that case, no with a full "oops"12:58
jdobrienfacundobatista: we should probably not report OOPS when it's from an external referrer12:59
kklimondaany idea why I can't get u1 applet nor u1sync to work after system reinstall? ;)12:59
kklimondathere are no other errors than "ConfigParser.NoSectionError: No section: 'default'"13:00
facundobatistakklimonda, why did you reinstall them?13:03
kklimondafacundobatista, I have reinstalled the whole system.13:03
facundobatistakklimonda, the ConfigParser error, is on which file?13:09
kklimondaI have no idea, I can paste whole traceback on pastebin if it helps you13:10
kklimondaI have even pasted oauth-login.log earlier today: http://pastebin.com/f42bb6ff913:11
mattgriffinhello everyone. if you see any new Ubuntu One beta testers join this discussion that are having trouble installing the client, please refer them to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubunet/+question/76131 . Thanks!13:18
facundobatistakklimonda, what does "$ apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client" tell you?13:19
facundobatista(run it from command line)13:19
kklimondanot installed13:19
facundobatistakklimonda, please, follow these instructions: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+question/7613113:19
kklimondanow it worked13:20
elkyjdobrien, the invitation page has been oopsing for me all weekend.13:21
kklimondafacundobatista, thanks13:21
jdobrienelky: What do you mean by 'invitation page'?13:22
elkyjdobrien, https://ubuntuone.com/invitation/1/request/13:22
elkythe one you get to by clicking "Request an invitation" on the index page.13:23
jdobrienelky: are you logging in with an account?13:23
elkyjdobrien, no. i dont have an account.13:23
elkymight it be seeing my launchpad account?13:24
jdobrienelky: yes, you should be logging in with a launchpad account13:24
jdobrienelky: or are you already logged in when you click the waiting list link?13:25
elkyjdobrien, well, i wasn't really aware I was. i had not logged in specifically on the ubuntuone site.13:26
elkyjdobrien, to clarify: i do not have a subscription, but i have a launchpad account.13:26
jdobrienelky: yes13:26
jdobrienelky: Ubuntu One uses the OpenID login server provided by Launchpad. We're working on a fix, but if you are logged into launchpad, some people have reported that they are automatically logged into Ubuntu One13:27
jdobrienelky: but that should cause a problem13:27
jdobrienelky: can you give it a try now?13:28
elkyok, i explicitly logged out and clicked the link. it took me to the launchpad openid login page and i did put in my launchpad details. it then took me back to the oops page13:29
jdobrienelky: hmm13:30
jdobrienelky: we've and 30k people use that and this is the first time we've experienced it.13:30
jdobrienelky: are you getting the same oops page each time?13:30
jdobrienelky: i mean...oops number?13:30
elkyjdobrien, this seems to be a slightly different number13:31
elky1282appserver94 this time13:31
jdobrienelky: ok...im just trying rule out a cahed number13:31
jdobrienelky: im looking it up13:32
elkycould this be something to do with a previous invitation that expired at all?13:32
jdobrienelky: the oops error says the referrer is  http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/ubuntu/page2/13:32
elkyjdobrien, well it's confused then13:33
VK7HSEBug #39594213:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 395942 in ubuntu "Segmentation Fault leaving desktop without icons" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39594213:34
jdobrienelky: that sure is odd13:34
elkyi'm trying on my netbook now and got 1282appserver108 and that is from a brand new tab which i typed the url into. it is also on a completely different connection to this computer (wifi vs 3g)13:34
jdobrienelky: why do you ask?13:35
elkyjdobrien, why do i ask what?13:35
jdobrienelky: "could this be something to do with a previous invitation that expired at all?"13:36
jdobrienelky: did you get an error indicated an invitation was expired?13:36
elkywhen i clicked on the invitation link a few weeks ago, having not had time to poke and play since ubuntuone released months ago13:36
elkyi figured i'd finally have a poke, and dug up the old email. but this a few weeks ago now13:37
atragenehello14:37
statikmoshi moshi14:39
jblountstatik: j014:41
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statikjblount! i missed you dude. what does it mean when my MBP screen goes all green and grainy for 30-90 seconds, and then back to normal? happens both when booted into ubuntu and into OS X. should I be afraid of hardware failure?14:45
jblountstatik: Hmm. I've had that happen a few times with my MBP, but it never repeated inside of a few months. Is it consistent?14:46
popeysounds like video card overheating14:48
statikjblount: no, it's kind of random14:48
statikheya popey. ah, heat could indeed be a factor, i'll pay attention to that14:49
jblountpopey: Yeah, that's what someone mentioned to me when I was seeing it. Super random, but my laptop never died.14:49
pfibigerstatik: smc fan control script is your friend, particularly in ubuntu14:49
popeymy dell died after similar issues14:49
popeyalso nvidia card14:49
pfibigerbut there's also an osx app that sits in the menu bar and lets you set minimum fan speeds/etc14:49
rmcbrideFear of an nvidia overheated/dead video card is why my main laptop has a crappy i815 series card now... meh14:50
statikveerrrry interesting. computers sure are complicated14:51
statikpfibiger: say, did you figure out the problem with oops not being logged for some errors?14:51
statikit looks like the upgrade to bzr format 2 didn't happen, anyone heard any discussion of that?14:52
pfibigerstatik: i started working on it and was unable to reproduce the problem, which makes it pretty hard to fix.. i talked w/ lucio, and we think that the db fixes fixed, or hid, the issues. he had some ideas about how to re-expose the issue and was going to let me know what he came up w/14:53
rmcbridestatik: I dont' recall the specifics, but I do recall discussion of it being more complex than we were anticipating.14:53
rmcbride(regarding bzr format 2) ^^14:54
statikcool. i read that there were bugfixes in 1.16, so it's probably good that it was delayed14:57
statikstandup meeting time?15:01
vdsme15:01
statikMEETING BEGINS15:01
urbanapeme15:01
statikme15:01
teknicome15:01
jblountme15:01
chad_me15:01
statiki assume rodrigo is at the desktop summit15:01
statikaquarius?15:02
aquariusme15:02
statikvds, looks like you are first15:02
vdsDONE: verification branch proposed, started branch to refactor funambol schema, discussed with the sub-team about thesting django views15:02
vdsTODO: land one branch, finish the other one15:02
vdsBLOCKED: hopefully not15:02
vdsnext urbanape15:02
urbanapeDONE: Got the FF extension (now called Bindwood) working with aquarius to the point of syncing with CouchDB, though now the observer is busted.15:02
urbanapeTODO: Get the observer fixed, maybe package it up, look at the dbus xpcom bridge.15:02
urbanapeBLOCK: None15:02
urbanapestatik, you're up.15:02
statikDONE: vacation TODO: catch up with all the cool stuff you folks did BLOCKED: nope15:03
statikteknico: your turn15:03
dobeyme15:03
teknicoDONE: worked with thisfred on improving the support for testing Django views15:03
teknicoTODO: completing the improvements to testing Django views, completing the tests for the web ui interface for resetting contact devices15:03
teknicoBLOCKED: nothing15:03
teknicoNEXT: jblount15:03
jblountDONE: Long weekend, css stufff for new /files/new15:03
jblountTODO: give up on email triage, keep up my "work on js, land a bug fixing branch" daily workflow.15:03
jblountBLOCKED: Nope15:03
jblountchad_: you!15:04
chad_DONE: Retained all fingers throughout US Independence Day celebration.  Pushed c15:04
chad_hanges to already-reviewed-but-not-landed tree.  Need new reviews.  (tcole, jdo?)15:04
chad_TODO: Add SSL.15:04
chad_BLOCKED: nil15:04
chad_(cadr mtg) -> aquarious15:04
aquariusDONE: landed uber-branch for records API; worked with urbanape on FF extension; defined CouchDB "management" database; fixed lsof being broken on jdo's machine; finished FF extension ready for GCDS demos; wrote up instructions; helped people at GCDS set up FF demo15:04
aquariusTODO: write OSCON presentation15:04
aquariusBLOCKED: still using the horror of lsof to find CouchDB port until the print-the-port logfile patch goes in15:04
aquariusNEXT: dobemeister15:04
dobeyDONE: Fixed client lint warnings, Fixed #39224915:04
dobeyTODO: Finish removing --signup option15:04
dobeyBLCK: None.15:04
statikyou guys ROCK15:05
statikMEETING ENDS15:05
statikurbanape: whats the "observer", and why is it busted?15:05
statikteknico: what are the improvements to testing django views? sounds cool15:05
* chad_ pokes CardinalFang15:05
urbanapestatik: FF provides an observer interface for changes to Places.15:05
urbanapeAt first, our observer was working so that new bookmarks, deletions, and changes were reflected in CouchDB.15:06
urbanapethen we worked on the sync-on-start stuff so that we'd push our local bookmarks to couch on startup, and something went boom.15:06
statikaquarius: do you expect the patch to go into upstream, or should we just get it patched for ubuntu in karmic right now today?15:06
statikurbanape: something being couchdb or FF?15:06
urbanapethe observer event handlers weren't being called.15:07
teknicostatik, we have a problem with the current Django views testing support, and are trying to fix it15:07
aquariusstatik: we'd like to get the patch into our stuff; it's being discussed upstream. However, we're short on packaging talent; thisfred has been looking at that and I think wants a word with you15:07
urbanapeI'm working on it now, starting from mostly commented out handler code and reintroducing bits to see what went wrong15:07
teknicostatik, we can talk about it as soon as you like, or else you can just wait for the fix ;-)15:08
statikteknico: i'm just curious what the problem and fix was about :)15:08
statikurbanape: that sounds good. is this code currently in a branch somewhere that I could peek at?15:09
urbanapestatik: yup, the latest is lp:~sil/ubuntuone-firefox-bookmark/sync-on-start15:10
statikaquarius: thisfred: as long as noah has been informed what we are planning to patch, I can help get a new couchdb package prepared today that includes your patch. do we need a call to work out the details, or is it pretty simple?15:10
thisfredstatik: well it's not simple: we need the svn trunk of couchdb, and our 2 patches15:11
thisfredstatik: or it may be simple, but I haven't figured out the right steps15:11
teknicostatik, the problem is with the current layer of integration between django and zope.testbrowser15:12
thisfredstatik: it would also definitely not be the final version for karmic, since we'll want a released version if possible, but in any case need more features to be built by Jan and Chris15:12
teknicostatik, we need the context object that's output from django views15:13
teknicostatik, in order to be able to test without having to parse the html markup and derive the context back from it15:13
teknicostatik, but the current code does not give access to the context object15:13
statikthisfred: that sounds like something that we could put in our PPA, but probably wouldn't want to upload to karmic. I guess it would need to be installed in the PQM chroot also?15:14
thisfredstatik, teknico: [butting in] we would like to use it for unit testing *as well* as integration/functional testing15:14
teknicoso today I and thisfred have been trying to cook up a way to get it out15:14
statikthisfred, teknico: that sounds great15:14
thisfredstatik: yes, it would need to be in pqm15:14
teknicostatik, right, the need is for unit testing the django views15:14
thisfredstatik: [couchdb-packaging] further complicating factor is: 0.9 unpatched is in karmic, and we need patched 0.10~svn, for jaunty and hardy, and probably for karmic as well, if we want to start testing with that15:15
teknicostatik, how to do that is the difficult part :-)15:16
statikthisfred: once we have an updated sourcepackage, we can build it for jaunty and hardy in the PPA no problem15:16
thisfredteknico: so I take it you haven't found a solution yet either? mechanize docs are spotty at best: "look at the doc strings" it says...15:17
teknicothisfred, right, still looking15:17
thisfredstatik: ok, that sounds like a good idea, it's just that it's a little daunting as a first try for packaging15:17
statikthisfred, aquarius: what I'd love to have is the patches committed to upstream svn, and a PPA that does nightly trunk builds of couchdb15:17
aquariusstatik: as would I love both those things15:17
thisfredstatik: rmcbride offered to help me. I asked kenvandine earlier, but didn't realize he's at gcds15:17
statikany ETA on getting those patches committed upstream?15:17
aquariusstatik: my little patch (well, your little patch) is getting some discussion, but the discussion is around "we should do this properly by having a RPC thing for couch"15:18
thisfredstatik: your patch was refused and aquarius15:18
thisfred' looks like it runs the same risk:15:18
aquariusstatik: and it's difficult to push for "don't do it properly, do it quickly so we can use it and do it properly later", since that's not the Couch Way15:18
thisfredstatik: they think a better implementation is possible, so don't want to accept this one15:18
statikthisfred: right...but we're still dependent on those patches? is anyone working on the "better way"?15:19
thisfredyes, and not really, the _changes feed would obviate the need for the first patch, when it's completely done, which it isn't15:20
statikright.15:20
* statik scratches his head15:20
thisfredstatik: I think private PPA is the only option for now. It suckfices...15:21
statikthisfred: did you happen to talk to noah about the packaging changes proposed for karmic regarding couchdb dependencies? I forwarded a mail from my phone sometime last week, but haven't looked to see if there was any followup15:22
statikthisfred: well, it could be public PPA I hope15:22
urbanapeaquarius: I fixed your code. I think it was just a lot of last-minute scramble.15:22
thisfredstatik: Uh, yeah, no need for the private15:22
thisfredstatik: did not talk to noah, have not seen your mail, I think15:23
urbanapeparts were using `db.<method>` rather than `couch.<method>`15:23
aquariusurbanape: excellent! fixed it to do what? make the observer work?15:23
urbanapeyeah15:23
thisfredI forwarded a mail from him to u-discuss15:23
urbanapeI'll commit and push to my branch15:23
urbanapeI've tested adding, deleting, and updating. All fire now.15:23
aquariusurbanape: nice one :)15:23
statikthisfred: oh, interesting. i'll look that up then. i'm inclined to think we should first make a package that has trunk couchdb, then tackle the patches on an individual basis15:23
thisfredstatik: ok, I thin rick and I can do that, and then we'll discuss more?15:25
thisfred+k15:25
statikthisfred: that sounds great15:25
statikthisfred: i have an old PPA around from when I was planning to set up nightly couchdb packages for personal reasons. i'll find it for you15:25
thisfredstatik: great!15:26
thisfredstatik: and can't find your mail. Was it to the list?15:26
statikthisfred: no, just to you and jamesh i think. i probably flubbed sending it, will find that for you too15:26
statikthisfred: looks like i accidentally left you off the list i sent it to, forwarding now15:31
aquariusurbanape: identifying this kind of issue would be a lot better if the error console ACTUALLY FRIGGING REPORTED ERRORS15:33
statikthisfred: https://edge.launchpad.net/~couchdb-nightly-ppa (from back in the day when you needed a new team in order to set up a new PPA). you've been added, do what you will with it15:35
thisfredstatik: cool, thanks!15:35
urbanapeaquarius: there's an about:config key you can change that makes the console a bit more verbose.15:37
urbanapeI'll try to dig it up.15:37
aquariusurbanape: ah, I've got firefox.usefulness set to "none" ;-)15:38
urbanapehah15:38
aquariusurbanape: ping16:04
urbanapepong16:05
aquariuswe could do with getting some of this FF stuff merged back into the trunk for our FF project16:05
urbanapeas soon as I get onItemRemoved fixed, I'll do just that.16:05
jdobrienhow does ubuntuone know the difference between previously deleted files and files added again?16:05
aquariusurbanape: skype?16:06
urbanapesure16:06
dobeyjdobrien: it doesn't, because there's no real way to know that?16:06
jdobriendobey: interesting16:07
dobeyjdobrien: and i don't really see the point of trying to figure that out...16:09
dobeysigh. bug hijacking fail16:13
jblountdobey: Isn't bug hijacking always fail-ish? :)16:15
dobeyyes16:16
dobeybut more so when it fills up my folder with mail about an issue that the bug isn't about16:16
jdobrienwhat is bug hijacking?16:18
jdobriendobey: ^^16:19
dobeyjdobrien: changing the description of a bug and adding comments on the bug describe a different problem than the report was about.16:20
jdobrienahh16:20
urbanapeaquarius: aha.16:26
urbanapethe guid is changed by the time we go to delete.16:26
aquariusah what?16:27
dobeyverterok: any specific reason for not having the contrib/test -t addition submitted as a separate branch from the hashq changes?16:28
verterokdobey: I just get bored of running all the tests all the time in that branch, so I implemented it there...but I can move it to a new branch if you want16:29
verterokdobey: actually I missed to mention that in the merge proposal, sorry about that16:29
dobeyverterok: it would probably be easier to review the 2 changes separately16:29
verterokdobey: the -r change is almost the same code that we have in ubunet ./test16:30
verterok*-t16:30
dobeyverterok: that's fine16:31
verterokdobey: but y'r right16:31
dobeyverterok: i just don't want it to block on the other changes if there are conflicts or other changes needed for it during review, either :)16:31
verterokdobey: ok, I'll resolve conflicts :)16:32
* verterok hugs extmerge plugin16:32
dobeyverterok: i don't know if there are any. if there are, they are problem conflicts with my lint fixes branch :)16:32
verterokdobey: yes, I thought about that...as I'm on Face Duty today, I'll take a look to the conflicts once you land the lint branch16:33
dobeyverterok: cool16:34
dobeyverterok: lint fixes branch is merged now :)16:46
verterokdobey: ack, thanks!16:47
brendan_phi all, recently received my invitation. went through install process as described but unable to "start" it up or link this machine. no icon16:57
brendan_pah skip that, it's just done it now...16:57
brendan_pmurphy... again16:57
thisfred @unittest.expectedFailure in python 3.1 looks very useful for TDD17:22
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statikthisfred: looks like there are nightly builds/snapshots on build.couchdb.org that might be very useful for generating nightly .debs from17:39
thisfredstatik: o wow, I didn't know of build.couchdb.org17:39
thisfredstatik: so we need 1. a way to pull them in and build them automatically, then 2. a way to interject the patches.17:40
thisfredstatik: AFAIK these will still be source, but have the generated parts of the code/configuration pregenerated, right?17:41
thisfredstatik: ah, no, seems they are binaries, from looking at the log files17:42
statikoh. surely there must be source snapshots somewhere to match up then17:42
statikthisfred: james_w built a tool for doing nightly PPA builds of various projects, unfortunately I don't know where it lives17:43
dobeyVK7HSE: ping. can you install ubuntuone-client-gnome-dbg and reproduce your nautilus crash?17:45
thisfredstatik: I'll ask him at a more reasonable time tomorrow17:45
statikfoood17:47
* verterok --> lunch!17:49
* CardinalFang catches LowBloodSugarBecauseSkippedLunch exception.19:23
dobeyexception: exception too long19:24
BUGabundoguud evening23:18
jblountBUGabundo: j0!23:22
BUGabundohey jblount23:23
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