=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [04:32] when i choose ubuntu one from the gnome main menu what is the name of the process that is supposed to be running? [05:10] hey, I had to reinstall system and now I can't get u1 to work [05:12] I get http://pastebin.com/f42bb6ff9 [05:12] it's from oauth-login.log [05:19] hello all [05:22] how do I sync my files with the ubuntuone server after putting them in the ubuntuone folder in my home directory? [05:24] are they supposed to sync automaticly? [05:25] !syncing [05:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about syncing [05:25] yes, they are supposed to sync automatically [05:27] is there a way i can force it? when I look at my account on the website, it says that there aren't any files [05:43] does anyone else have this issue? when I run ubuntuone in the background and try to connect to my local samba share, nautilus crashes [09:53] I'm getting an ubuntuone-client on my update manager, but it's greyed out, what's going on? [09:56] same here [09:57] I just went to synaptic and installed the ubuntuone-client-gnome [09:57] hoping that helps [10:11] ok I installed ubuntuone-client-gnome, and the update then worked but I had to uninstall ubuntuone-storage-protocol and ubuntuone-ppa-beta, is this ok? [11:40] the invitations page is producing an oops "Unfortunately, we've experienced an error. It has been reported to the administrators and should be fixed shortly. Thanks for your patience. Oops-ID: 1281appserver57" [11:40] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=ID [12:10] a secret canonical webpage :o [12:41] well I say warthogs to that [12:44] elky: what happened? [12:53] facundobatista: someone followed a link to our site from here: http://punk-linux.blogspot.com/2009/06/llego-mi-imvitacion-ubuntu-one.html [12:54] jdobrien, spanish, with a lot of spelling misakes [12:54] *mistakes [12:55] jdobrien, and have images that point to our servers, which don't appear, like: https://media.ubuntuone.com/media/img/install/gdebi.png [12:55] facundobatista: yeah [12:55] facundobatista: https://admin.ubunet.canonical.com/~ubunet/oops.cgi/2009-07-05/appserver57 [12:55] (it's ok for those to not appear, we shouldn't let them... or at least I don't let people do that with my info) [12:56] facundobatista: for some reason we are logging 404's on missing image links. That seems kind of dumb since our apache logs would do [12:58] jdobrien, I'm ok with a log in that case, no with a full "oops" [12:59] facundobatista: we should probably not report OOPS when it's from an external referrer [12:59] any idea why I can't get u1 applet nor u1sync to work after system reinstall? ;) [13:00] there are no other errors than "ConfigParser.NoSectionError: No section: 'default'" [13:03] kklimonda, why did you reinstall them? [13:03] facundobatista, I have reinstalled the whole system. [13:09] kklimonda, the ConfigParser error, is on which file? [13:10] I have no idea, I can paste whole traceback on pastebin if it helps you [13:11] I have even pasted oauth-login.log earlier today: http://pastebin.com/f42bb6ff9 [13:18] hello everyone. if you see any new Ubuntu One beta testers join this discussion that are having trouble installing the client, please refer them to https://answers.launchpad.net/ubunet/+question/76131 . Thanks! [13:19] kklimonda, what does "$ apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client" tell you? [13:19] (run it from command line) [13:19] not installed [13:19] kklimonda, please, follow these instructions: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubunet/+question/76131 [13:20] now it worked [13:21] jdobrien, the invitation page has been oopsing for me all weekend. [13:21] facundobatista, thanks [13:22] elky: What do you mean by 'invitation page'? [13:22] jdobrien, https://ubuntuone.com/invitation/1/request/ [13:23] the one you get to by clicking "Request an invitation" on the index page. [13:23] elky: are you logging in with an account? [13:23] jdobrien, no. i dont have an account. [13:24] might it be seeing my launchpad account? [13:24] elky: yes, you should be logging in with a launchpad account [13:25] elky: or are you already logged in when you click the waiting list link? [13:26] jdobrien, well, i wasn't really aware I was. i had not logged in specifically on the ubuntuone site. [13:26] jdobrien, to clarify: i do not have a subscription, but i have a launchpad account. [13:26] elky: yes [13:27] elky: Ubuntu One uses the OpenID login server provided by Launchpad. We're working on a fix, but if you are logged into launchpad, some people have reported that they are automatically logged into Ubuntu One [13:27] elky: but that should cause a problem [13:28] elky: can you give it a try now? [13:29] ok, i explicitly logged out and clicked the link. it took me to the launchpad openid login page and i did put in my launchpad details. it then took me back to the oops page [13:30] elky: hmm [13:30] elky: we've and 30k people use that and this is the first time we've experienced it. [13:30] elky: are you getting the same oops page each time? [13:30] elky: i mean...oops number? [13:31] jdobrien, this seems to be a slightly different number [13:31] 1282appserver94 this time [13:31] elky: ok...im just trying rule out a cahed number [13:32] elky: im looking it up [13:32] could this be something to do with a previous invitation that expired at all? [13:32] elky: the oops error says the referrer is http://habrahabr.ru/blogs/ubuntu/page2/ [13:33] jdobrien, well it's confused then [13:34] Bug #395942 [13:34] Launchpad bug 395942 in ubuntu "Segmentation Fault leaving desktop without icons" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/395942 [13:34] elky: that sure is odd [13:34] i'm trying on my netbook now and got 1282appserver108 and that is from a brand new tab which i typed the url into. it is also on a completely different connection to this computer (wifi vs 3g) [13:35] elky: why do you ask? [13:35] jdobrien, why do i ask what? [13:36] elky: "could this be something to do with a previous invitation that expired at all?" [13:36] elky: did you get an error indicated an invitation was expired? [13:36] when i clicked on the invitation link a few weeks ago, having not had time to poke and play since ubuntuone released months ago [13:37] i figured i'd finally have a poke, and dug up the old email. but this a few weeks ago now [14:37] hello [14:39] moshi moshi [14:41] statik: j0 === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride [14:45] jblount! i missed you dude. what does it mean when my MBP screen goes all green and grainy for 30-90 seconds, and then back to normal? happens both when booted into ubuntu and into OS X. should I be afraid of hardware failure? [14:46] statik: Hmm. I've had that happen a few times with my MBP, but it never repeated inside of a few months. Is it consistent? [14:48] sounds like video card overheating [14:48] jblount: no, it's kind of random [14:49] heya popey. ah, heat could indeed be a factor, i'll pay attention to that [14:49] popey: Yeah, that's what someone mentioned to me when I was seeing it. Super random, but my laptop never died. [14:49] statik: smc fan control script is your friend, particularly in ubuntu [14:49] my dell died after similar issues [14:49] also nvidia card [14:49] but there's also an osx app that sits in the menu bar and lets you set minimum fan speeds/etc [14:50] Fear of an nvidia overheated/dead video card is why my main laptop has a crappy i815 series card now... meh [14:51] veerrrry interesting. computers sure are complicated [14:51] pfibiger: say, did you figure out the problem with oops not being logged for some errors? [14:52] it looks like the upgrade to bzr format 2 didn't happen, anyone heard any discussion of that? [14:53] statik: i started working on it and was unable to reproduce the problem, which makes it pretty hard to fix.. i talked w/ lucio, and we think that the db fixes fixed, or hid, the issues. he had some ideas about how to re-expose the issue and was going to let me know what he came up w/ [14:53] statik: I dont' recall the specifics, but I do recall discussion of it being more complex than we were anticipating. [14:54] (regarding bzr format 2) ^^ [14:57] cool. i read that there were bugfixes in 1.16, so it's probably good that it was delayed [15:01] standup meeting time? [15:01] me [15:01] MEETING BEGINS [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] me [15:01] i assume rodrigo is at the desktop summit [15:02] aquarius? [15:02] me [15:02] vds, looks like you are first [15:02] DONE: verification branch proposed, started branch to refactor funambol schema, discussed with the sub-team about thesting django views [15:02] TODO: land one branch, finish the other one [15:02] BLOCKED: hopefully not [15:02] next urbanape [15:02] DONE: Got the FF extension (now called Bindwood) working with aquarius to the point of syncing with CouchDB, though now the observer is busted. [15:02] TODO: Get the observer fixed, maybe package it up, look at the dbus xpcom bridge. [15:02] BLOCK: None [15:02] statik, you're up. [15:03] DONE: vacation TODO: catch up with all the cool stuff you folks did BLOCKED: nope [15:03] teknico: your turn [15:03] me [15:03] DONE: worked with thisfred on improving the support for testing Django views [15:03] TODO: completing the improvements to testing Django views, completing the tests for the web ui interface for resetting contact devices [15:03] BLOCKED: nothing [15:03] NEXT: jblount [15:03] DONE: Long weekend, css stufff for new /files/new [15:03] TODO: give up on email triage, keep up my "work on js, land a bug fixing branch" daily workflow. [15:03] BLOCKED: Nope [15:04] chad_: you! [15:04] DONE: Retained all fingers throughout US Independence Day celebration. Pushed c [15:04] hanges to already-reviewed-but-not-landed tree. Need new reviews. (tcole, jdo?) [15:04] TODO: Add SSL. [15:04] BLOCKED: nil [15:04] (cadr mtg) -> aquarious [15:04] DONE: landed uber-branch for records API; worked with urbanape on FF extension; defined CouchDB "management" database; fixed lsof being broken on jdo's machine; finished FF extension ready for GCDS demos; wrote up instructions; helped people at GCDS set up FF demo [15:04] TODO: write OSCON presentation [15:04] BLOCKED: still using the horror of lsof to find CouchDB port until the print-the-port logfile patch goes in [15:04] NEXT: dobemeister [15:04] DONE: Fixed client lint warnings, Fixed #392249 [15:04] TODO: Finish removing --signup option [15:04] BLCK: None. [15:05] you guys ROCK [15:05] MEETING ENDS [15:05] urbanape: whats the "observer", and why is it busted? [15:05] teknico: what are the improvements to testing django views? sounds cool [15:05] * chad_ pokes CardinalFang [15:05] statik: FF provides an observer interface for changes to Places. [15:06] At first, our observer was working so that new bookmarks, deletions, and changes were reflected in CouchDB. [15:06] then we worked on the sync-on-start stuff so that we'd push our local bookmarks to couch on startup, and something went boom. [15:06] aquarius: do you expect the patch to go into upstream, or should we just get it patched for ubuntu in karmic right now today? [15:06] urbanape: something being couchdb or FF? [15:07] the observer event handlers weren't being called. [15:07] statik, we have a problem with the current Django views testing support, and are trying to fix it [15:07] statik: we'd like to get the patch into our stuff; it's being discussed upstream. However, we're short on packaging talent; thisfred has been looking at that and I think wants a word with you [15:07] I'm working on it now, starting from mostly commented out handler code and reintroducing bits to see what went wrong [15:08] statik, we can talk about it as soon as you like, or else you can just wait for the fix ;-) [15:08] teknico: i'm just curious what the problem and fix was about :) [15:09] urbanape: that sounds good. is this code currently in a branch somewhere that I could peek at? [15:10] statik: yup, the latest is lp:~sil/ubuntuone-firefox-bookmark/sync-on-start [15:10] aquarius: thisfred: as long as noah has been informed what we are planning to patch, I can help get a new couchdb package prepared today that includes your patch. do we need a call to work out the details, or is it pretty simple? [15:11] statik: well it's not simple: we need the svn trunk of couchdb, and our 2 patches [15:11] statik: or it may be simple, but I haven't figured out the right steps [15:12] statik, the problem is with the current layer of integration between django and zope.testbrowser [15:12] statik: it would also definitely not be the final version for karmic, since we'll want a released version if possible, but in any case need more features to be built by Jan and Chris [15:13] statik, we need the context object that's output from django views [15:13] statik, in order to be able to test without having to parse the html markup and derive the context back from it [15:13] statik, but the current code does not give access to the context object [15:14] thisfred: that sounds like something that we could put in our PPA, but probably wouldn't want to upload to karmic. I guess it would need to be installed in the PQM chroot also? [15:14] statik, teknico: [butting in] we would like to use it for unit testing *as well* as integration/functional testing [15:14] so today I and thisfred have been trying to cook up a way to get it out [15:14] thisfred, teknico: that sounds great [15:14] statik: yes, it would need to be in pqm [15:14] statik, right, the need is for unit testing the django views [15:15] statik: [couchdb-packaging] further complicating factor is: 0.9 unpatched is in karmic, and we need patched 0.10~svn, for jaunty and hardy, and probably for karmic as well, if we want to start testing with that [15:16] statik, how to do that is the difficult part :-) [15:16] thisfred: once we have an updated sourcepackage, we can build it for jaunty and hardy in the PPA no problem [15:17] teknico: so I take it you haven't found a solution yet either? mechanize docs are spotty at best: "look at the doc strings" it says... [15:17] thisfred, right, still looking [15:17] statik: ok, that sounds like a good idea, it's just that it's a little daunting as a first try for packaging [15:17] thisfred, aquarius: what I'd love to have is the patches committed to upstream svn, and a PPA that does nightly trunk builds of couchdb [15:17] statik: as would I love both those things [15:17] statik: rmcbride offered to help me. I asked kenvandine earlier, but didn't realize he's at gcds [15:17] any ETA on getting those patches committed upstream? [15:18] statik: my little patch (well, your little patch) is getting some discussion, but the discussion is around "we should do this properly by having a RPC thing for couch" [15:18] statik: your patch was refused and aquarius [15:18] ' looks like it runs the same risk: [15:18] statik: and it's difficult to push for "don't do it properly, do it quickly so we can use it and do it properly later", since that's not the Couch Way [15:18] statik: they think a better implementation is possible, so don't want to accept this one [15:19] thisfred: right...but we're still dependent on those patches? is anyone working on the "better way"? [15:20] yes, and not really, the _changes feed would obviate the need for the first patch, when it's completely done, which it isn't [15:20] right. [15:20] * statik scratches his head [15:21] statik: I think private PPA is the only option for now. It suckfices... [15:22] thisfred: did you happen to talk to noah about the packaging changes proposed for karmic regarding couchdb dependencies? I forwarded a mail from my phone sometime last week, but haven't looked to see if there was any followup [15:22] thisfred: well, it could be public PPA I hope [15:22] aquarius: I fixed your code. I think it was just a lot of last-minute scramble. [15:22] statik: Uh, yeah, no need for the private [15:23] statik: did not talk to noah, have not seen your mail, I think [15:23] parts were using `db.` rather than `couch.` [15:23] urbanape: excellent! fixed it to do what? make the observer work? [15:23] yeah [15:23] I forwarded a mail from him to u-discuss [15:23] I'll commit and push to my branch [15:23] I've tested adding, deleting, and updating. All fire now. [15:23] urbanape: nice one :) [15:23] thisfred: oh, interesting. i'll look that up then. i'm inclined to think we should first make a package that has trunk couchdb, then tackle the patches on an individual basis [15:25] statik: ok, I thin rick and I can do that, and then we'll discuss more? [15:25] +k [15:25] thisfred: that sounds great [15:25] thisfred: i have an old PPA around from when I was planning to set up nightly couchdb packages for personal reasons. i'll find it for you [15:26] statik: great! [15:26] statik: and can't find your mail. Was it to the list? [15:26] thisfred: no, just to you and jamesh i think. i probably flubbed sending it, will find that for you too [15:31] thisfred: looks like i accidentally left you off the list i sent it to, forwarding now [15:33] urbanape: identifying this kind of issue would be a lot better if the error console ACTUALLY FRIGGING REPORTED ERRORS [15:35] thisfred: https://edge.launchpad.net/~couchdb-nightly-ppa (from back in the day when you needed a new team in order to set up a new PPA). you've been added, do what you will with it [15:35] statik: cool, thanks! [15:37] aquarius: there's an about:config key you can change that makes the console a bit more verbose. [15:37] I'll try to dig it up. [15:38] urbanape: ah, I've got firefox.usefulness set to "none" ;-) [15:38] hah [16:04] urbanape: ping [16:05] pong [16:05] we could do with getting some of this FF stuff merged back into the trunk for our FF project [16:05] as soon as I get onItemRemoved fixed, I'll do just that. [16:05] how does ubuntuone know the difference between previously deleted files and files added again? [16:06] urbanape: skype? [16:06] sure [16:06] jdobrien: it doesn't, because there's no real way to know that? [16:07] dobey: interesting [16:09] jdobrien: and i don't really see the point of trying to figure that out... [16:13] sigh. bug hijacking fail [16:15] dobey: Isn't bug hijacking always fail-ish? :) [16:16] yes [16:16] but more so when it fills up my folder with mail about an issue that the bug isn't about [16:18] what is bug hijacking? [16:19] dobey: ^^ [16:20] jdobrien: changing the description of a bug and adding comments on the bug describe a different problem than the report was about. [16:20] ahh [16:26] aquarius: aha. [16:26] the guid is changed by the time we go to delete. [16:27] ah what? [16:28] verterok: any specific reason for not having the contrib/test -t addition submitted as a separate branch from the hashq changes? [16:29] dobey: I just get bored of running all the tests all the time in that branch, so I implemented it there...but I can move it to a new branch if you want [16:29] dobey: actually I missed to mention that in the merge proposal, sorry about that [16:29] verterok: it would probably be easier to review the 2 changes separately [16:30] dobey: the -r change is almost the same code that we have in ubunet ./test [16:30] *-t [16:31] verterok: that's fine [16:31] dobey: but y'r right [16:31] verterok: i just don't want it to block on the other changes if there are conflicts or other changes needed for it during review, either :) [16:32] dobey: ok, I'll resolve conflicts :) [16:32] * verterok hugs extmerge plugin [16:32] verterok: i don't know if there are any. if there are, they are problem conflicts with my lint fixes branch :) [16:33] dobey: yes, I thought about that...as I'm on Face Duty today, I'll take a look to the conflicts once you land the lint branch [16:34] verterok: cool [16:46] verterok: lint fixes branch is merged now :) [16:47] dobey: ack, thanks! [16:57] hi all, recently received my invitation. went through install process as described but unable to "start" it up or link this machine. no icon [16:57] ah skip that, it's just done it now... [16:57] murphy... again [17:22] @unittest.expectedFailure in python 3.1 looks very useful for TDD === yml_ is now known as yml [17:39] thisfred: looks like there are nightly builds/snapshots on build.couchdb.org that might be very useful for generating nightly .debs from [17:39] statik: o wow, I didn't know of build.couchdb.org [17:40] statik: so we need 1. a way to pull them in and build them automatically, then 2. a way to interject the patches. [17:41] statik: AFAIK these will still be source, but have the generated parts of the code/configuration pregenerated, right? [17:42] statik: ah, no, seems they are binaries, from looking at the log files [17:42] oh. surely there must be source snapshots somewhere to match up then [17:43] thisfred: james_w built a tool for doing nightly PPA builds of various projects, unfortunately I don't know where it lives [17:45] VK7HSE: ping. can you install ubuntuone-client-gnome-dbg and reproduce your nautilus crash? [17:45] statik: I'll ask him at a more reasonable time tomorrow [17:47] foood [17:49] * verterok --> lunch! [19:23] * CardinalFang catches LowBloodSugarBecauseSkippedLunch exception. [19:24] exception: exception too long [23:18] guud evening [23:22] BUGabundo: j0! [23:23] hey jblount === rmcbride changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: File Sharing for Ubuntu | https://ubuntuone.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Currently in limited beta, new invitations are sent regularly | Current Beta Client Revno is 64, Protocol Revno is 47 | Release 0.90.3